419 Responses to Start the week 1st February 2021

  1. JohnC says:

    Good God – just when you think the BBC has scraped the very bottom of the ‘all whites are racist’ barrel, we get this:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-55831324
    Here we have a very lengthy article all around the simple fact that many people cannot pronounce the name of Yewande Biala from Love Island (No, I’ve never heard of her either) properly. Including a statement directly from her that she thinks it is racist.
    And just so you know, it is considered macro-aggression, not micro-aggression. Whatever that means.
    She deserves ridicule for a lot more than her unpronounceable name. One of the most pathetic articles I’ve seen for a long time.
    I wonder if the BBC would take it quite so seriously if she was Polish or Russian instead of another black female victim.

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    • Kaiser says:

      people seem to steadfastly shorten mine even though I always introduce myself with the full name

      but the funniest bit of the article

      “One of the most common excuses when it comes to my name is, ‘oh we can’t pronounce it,’ but Arnold Schwarzenegger isn’t an everyday name and people have taken the time to learn it.
      It makes you think – is there a racial aspect?”

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      • BRISSLES says:

        How about the actor David Oyelowo – I defy anyone to pronounce his surname correct at the first attempt. AND AND AND even fellow actor Denzil Washington (in a weekend article) also admitted struggling with it 🙂

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    • Doobster78 says:

      I am of Ukrainian heritage. I have a strange (for Britain) surname. It is fairly difficult to pronounce.

      All my life people have stuggled. School teachers, doctors etc, many different and funny pronunciations have been used.

      Never ONCE have I even pulled anyone up on it, just had a laugh, that’s all. It’s a strange , rare, non British name so folk will no doubt get it wrong .

      That is life , that is just fact and it is 100% sweet FA to do with racism or the like.

      I suggest Miss Biala gets a life and that chip removed from her shoulder.

      And for the BBC reporting it , well ……simply pathetic but what do we expect ?

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      • JimS says:

        Many immigrants, from anywhere to anywhere else, have changed their names to suit local customs. That used to be part of the price of moving.

        I read once that some people in the USA called ‘Ferguson’ had arrived in the USA with scarcely a word of English, so when asked what their name was had responded, “Ich verstehe nicht”, “I don’t understand”. The immigration officer hadn’t understood either and so a new member of the Ferguson family was created.

        What are we to do with people from cultures with a different naming convention? The Chinese work in reverse order for instance. Do we have to spend billions re-writing database software to cope? And then along comes narcissists like ‘Prince’ who want to be identified by a symbol.

        The likes of Yewande Biala are particularly ‘problematic’ as one bends over backwards to accomodate Africans, only to find that the ‘African’ is called Jane Smith, couldn’t find Africa on a map amd talks like she has never left Liverpool, which she hasn’t.

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      • moggie63 says:

        I am of Ukrainian heritage too. People always say my Christian name then look round helplessly and I let them off by telling them it’s me. They invariably say they don’t know how to say my surname and I laughingly point out that they don’t know how to say my Christian name either. Happy grins all round and I’ve rarely considered smacking them with a bat for being racist.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Oh it’s racist if someone can’t pronounce your name
      … Americans cannot say the word Stew ..only Stoo
      ..the vowel sound St-jew doesn’t exist in American English

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      • Banania says:

        But when they see something disgusting they can say “Ewe”, so it is not as if they can’t actually make the sound.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Seems a lovely chap. Voice that is like a melted XO liqueur chocolate… but in our house still ‘That bloke from Kinky Boots and Serenity’.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      One of the women chosen by the BBC for this race-baiting bilge states that her name “shows my culture and where I’ve come from” (which is Rwanda). Really. I notice that all three of these black ladies have straightened their hair and two have long hair, a style associated with Europe, China, India, South America… well, just about everywhere except Africa, where the the style is usually short and curly (”woolly”) or bald. And come to think of it, I can’t ever recall seeing an actual African in Africa with an ‘Afro’ hairstyle… Looks like a very bad case of cultural appropriation, so why not go the whole hog, ladies, and adopt a Western-friendly name or nickname, such as most of my Chinese, Indian and Arabic friends and contacts in the UK have done?

      Respect “the culture and where I’ve come from”? Sure, and you can respect the culture of where you have come to.

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    • taffman says:

      It would be a safe bet that most at Al Beeb cannot pronounce the name Llewellyn Llwyd correctly ?

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    • digg says:

      This is a way of gaining a privilege and publicity for their own advancement. People like this are fully aware that sob stories like these will hit the UK woke press like manna from heaven.

      Henceforth in any contact with the Press. Agents, Employers etc. they will henceforth be treated with faux respect born out of a fear by these people being seen as micro-aggressive and therefore immune from any criticism or real appraisal.

      It’s a bandwagon for artificially enhancing their status.

      BLM have perfected this for their “cause”. Much easier than being right or good at what you do.

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      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        I’m blessed(?) with a very old, Anglo-Saxon surname, connected with what is now a tiny hamlet, but at the time of the Vikings was a ‘large and influential Saxon settlement’. Presumably at least one of my ancestors came from there.

        Virtually no one, from any part of the world, can pronounce it correctly (Scandinavians maybe?), most people add an extra letter, or two, for no apparent reason. It’s a running joke in the family, and an aunt has an interesting collection of letters where they’ve misspelt it – she has literally hundreds of them.

        Having spent several years in Australia as a child, then in various parts of the UK, before ending up in the West Country, I (and my sisters) have unusual accents. That’s also led to some interesting assumptions and a great deal of ‘ribbing’ over the years.

        We’re also of ‘mixed race’ (whatever that means), as in we have ancestors from the Near East, and Southern and Northern Europe. Which again has led to some strange assumptions (and ‘ribbing’).

        Do we complain about it?

        Nope, we just laugh about it (and think everyone else is stupid).

        Life goes on, everyone is ‘different’ in their own ways, stop making yourself a ‘victim’ and get on with it.

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  2. BRISSLES says:

    I mentioned this last week, but today there is an excellent article by Sue Reid in the Mail that ethnics are refusing to be inoculated. So now I’m taking the attitude, ok don’t take it, but don’t have BAME families weeping to the media about excess deaths in their communities. If its Allah’s will to get Covid then its Allah’s will they die ! and if whole communities get wiped out then its not going to be on my priority list to worry.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9208051/When-Covid-puts-ethnic-minorities-risk-uptake-jab-lower.html

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    • G.W.F. says:

      BRISSLES

      From the Mail article

      ”Last week, NHS England announced it is to give ÂŁ23 million to local councils to encourage uptake of the jab among high-risk groups, including the BAME (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic) community.”

      Hey, that ÂŁ23 million is our taxpayer’s money and could be spent on treating patients.

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      • The WestWyvern says:

        But the face coverings a lot of these effniks wear must give them protection against the china virus. Surely?

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      • StewGreen says:

        Re the ÂŁ23m for BAME PR
        11am Radio4
        “Jordan Lee is one of 20 BAME Covid Leaders tasked with combating vaccine hesitancy in West Yorkshire”

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  3. Up2snuff says:

    TWato Watch #2 – it’s both excruciating and exciting to see which way the BBC will jump or to be more correct ‘fall’ . . . ….

    … on the coup in Myanmar. The BBC, of course, now have history – they have shot their impartiality foot off – in relation to the EU Referendum and the US Presidential Elections in 2016 and 2020. In fact, over the course of the first two years since 2015, the BBC developed gangrene after that foot wound and had to have their whole ‘impartiality leg’ amputated. They are still wobbling around on crutches and you think any moment there will be a crash caught on mic and broadcast to the nation.

    The phrase ‘disputed election’ must send shivers down the necks of some foreign correspondents, Editors, Producers and News Executives. And then, when Aung San Suu Kyi calls for her supporters to come out on the streets and to demonstrate against the military coup in Myanmar, it must send paroxysms of guilt cascading through those same foreign correspondents, Editors, Producers and News Executives. Or maybe not?

    Perhaps they rationalise it: ‘Trump was a bad man – everyone says so and we believe that to be the case.’? And justify themselves, in their own eyes, that way. I’m not sure the listening and viewing public in the UK and the USA and around the world via World Service will agree.

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  4. Guest Who says:

    BBC News…. and its audience.

    Myanmar’s military has taken control of the country after detaining de-facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi and other politicians.

    ***
    Top comment:

    Good ridence!!! she lost all credibility when she turned a blind eye to the genocide committed against the minorities under her watch. What goes round comes round dear.

    ***
    Interesting chap.

    British through and through.

    Well, educated and works here.

    Not for the BBC, but the name crops up a lot.

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  5. Fedup2 says:

    Up2
    I’ve just seen sky news and they are describing Burma as the first coup of 2021 – I’d Ben to differ – the first was live on the TV a few days ago …. they took control of the military too …
    ( ‘there is no evidence for this ….”)

    From now on all elections will be disputed ….

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  6. Tabs says:

    George Clooney helps Eddie Izzard complete 31-day marathon challenge
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55886162

    Comedian Eddie Izzard has completed her 31-day virtual marathon run by raising over ÂŁ200k for charity.

    Speaking from her treadmill after Sunday’s double marathon, she said she felt “very honoured” by the support.

    God help us.

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    • StewGreen says:

      They are not hiding it

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      • Guest Who says:

        Or the Labour Front Bench if she hits the tanning salon.

        Well, assuming an election contested is won.

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        • JohnC says:

          Ha ha – was just reading that.
          ‘Comedian Eddie Izzard has completed her 31-day virtual marathon run by raising over ÂŁ200k for charity.’
          ‘Her’ ???.
          Eddie now looks like a bricklayer crossed with Jo Brand.
          The world has gone completely bonkers.

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        • JohnC says:

          Ha ha – was just reading that.
          ‘Comedian Eddie Izzard has completed her 31-day virtual marathon run by raising over ÂŁ200k for charity.’
          ‘Her’ ???.
          Eddie now looks like a bricklayer crossed with Jo Brand.
          The world has gone completely bonkers.

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  7. StewGreen says:

    Keep saving your work in case the power goes off
    “Blackout risk is now up to 22%. Balancing mechanism prices up to ÂŁ600/MWh. (normal price is ÂŁ30-40
    Wind’s contribution is pathetic, at just over 2GW. “

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  8. StewGreen says:

    Hey BBC is it true that you try to cram tick box special-victim groups into every programme

    .. And a food programme would be about FOOD .. no it’s “refugees”

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    • StewGreen says:

      I suppose the BBC doesn’t have many programmes about Indian cooking

      Oh hang on, there is this prog on twice everyday this week
      .. “Drama about the first cookery book by groundbreaking Indian actress, Madhur Jaffrey.”

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  9. Guest Who says:

    That sound lefties make when something is mused that makes them go utterly ment… more mental?

    https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2021/02/01/if-johnson-makes-dacre-chair-of-ofcom-hell-be-betraying-the-bbc-and-the-facts/?

    That.

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  10. Guest Who says:

    Is Katya being watched?

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  11. digg says:

    Interesting juxtaposition of 2 items side-by-side on the BBC website under “Society”

    Pandemic has highlighted archaic wedding laws.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-55796748

    alongside..

    Muslim Council of Britain elects first female head.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55883189

    So how could these two stories be related?

    The wedding laws item rails against couples in the UK being obliged to be married in a designated place such as Church or Registry Office and calls for this to be relaxed so they could for instance be married anywhere by anyone.

    Sob stories about couples who would like a “ceremony” in say their own garden or on Zoom are still being obliged to go and register the marriage to make it legal.

    Way down the article you come across this footnote:

    “Many Muslim weddings are not classed as legally binding under English and Welsh law, and couples are required to have a civil ceremony if they want to have it legally recognised.

    Abdul-Azim Ahmed, the Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Wales, said Islamic marriages could be undertaken by “anyone, anywhere” and the existing laws were “too bureaucratic ” and not reflective of the diverse cultures and traditions of modern Wales.”

    They also managed to suggest that the UK Church is holding onto it’s position on this for greedy financial reasons..

    “In 2018, 2,223 weddings were held in Church in Wales churches. With couples paying a standard fee of ÂŁ455, weddings contributed more than ÂŁ1m in total towards the estate.”

    An odd coincidence or by design?

    And how very BBC!

    Like snails, they always leave a trail of slime if you look closely!

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  12. digg says:

    The independent championing a black women photographer in Nigeria who thinks that documenting stuff should be done by “locals”

    I am a Nigerian photographer – we need more images in the media to be by locals for locals

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/endsars-protests-nigeria-women-b1794052.html

    If we are ever to make progress in being diverse, it is vital that we are intentional and always encourage sincere unbiased representation by locals for locals.

    Now why would that get a rough ride and all the usual nutters screaming if you substituted Britain for Nigeria and British for Nigerian?

    Let me think!

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  13. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #3 – the BBC still wobbling, I can see a fall coming …

    ….. over education. One of the BBC’s favourite groups ‘the poor and disadvantaged’ are being disadvantaged by missing out on education due to one of the Labour Party’s (esp. Angela Rayner’s) favourite groups: the teachers and their Unions. That’s what happens, unfortunately, when the teachers skive instead of the pupils.

    There are a couple of solutions: compulsory vaccination of all teachers, school administrators and teaching assistants. Not sure how well that would go down with the Teaching Unions and the BBC: “It’s discriminatory!” they will howl over any teacher, TA and administrator who cannot have or chooses not to have the mandatory vaccine jab.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      At PMQ last week Starmer suggested that all teachers and staff could be vaccinated ‘during half term’ …. as a priority so they they’ll be protected from the little darlings when the schools start to open on 8 March .

      The PM replied by asking which priority group does Starmer want to delay the vaccine – and that the groupings have been set up based on medical risk rather than a political one …

      Let’s face it – the teachers are over the moon doing nothing and not having that terrible pressure of getting the little darlings ready for exams …. as they count down the days to their lovely pension …

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      • Sluff says:

        Fedup
        Last week i dug deep into the Zoe covid study.
        On about page 20 odd of 30 pages of A4 was data about the case rate of covid over time by age group.

        During the late December early January infection peak the case rate for under 20 s i.e. school children barely changed from the previous several weeks and was and still is at a very low comparative level.

        Meanwhile the case rate for those between 20 and 40 was around five times higher at the peak

        So in fact its not the teachers who should be worried about the children, but the other way round. Something the BBC seem not to have noticed.

        But given that the teacher unions (I must be fair and distinguish them from many perfectly decent individual teachers) wanted to close the schools AND then also prevent teachers from teaching online (in case parents watched them at work) clearly any opportunity to receive full pay for doing absolutely nothing has to be grabbed.

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  14. Tabs says:

    I couldn’t help notice how Owen Jones uses the same omission of facts to try and persuade the public just like the BBC does.

    Here he mentions the deportation but doesn’t mention the criminal record probably “due to editorial constraints”.

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    • StewGreen says:

      “Osime Brown served a five year prison sentence for robbery, attempted robbery and perverting the course of justice!
      Was the stolen phone not found in his possession?”

      Now you can argue that the conviction was unfair
      but what you shouldn’t do is brush it under the carpet
      If the court was unfair you have to go through the judicial process.

      British law applies to people who are 100% British Nationals.
      He is not a British National so the law applies to him in a different way .
      Were he a white Jamaican, American, South Africa etc.. he would be treated the same.

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      • Kaiser says:

        five years sounds harsh for a youngster for a mobile phone robbery, I suspect the full story has a little more to it

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      • StewGreen says:

        Commenters highlight some inconstistencies

        • He was in care, she failing to mention this now she is playing the loving mom, also said he is the most loving one out of her 5 kids but he ended up in care?
        • A judge has to take mental health issues on board before sentencing, so he wouldn’t have got 5 years unless he didn’t have serious mental health problems or the mom is not telling the full extent of the crime. Might of been diagnosed when they found out he was being deported? When did he get diagnosed & who by?
        • She said his dad is in America & her family live in Canada.

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    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      You seem to read the Guardian more than I do. You don’t have to, you know, if it’s not to your taste.

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  15. Guest Who says:

    QT independent expert panel for the BBC Spesh on the handling of the pandemic sorted.

    A few more female cousins of those in the cubicle gardens, who are also MPs… luvly.

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  16. Fedup2 says:

    Watching the BBC News in the run up to the 5PM gotcha show – the negativity of the coverage is overwhelming . Care home staff have ‘cultural difficulties ‘ accepting the vaccine … but not much probing of what these ‘cultural difficulties’ are .

    From my personal experience of the 15 minute ‘care’ home visits I’ve seen evidence of impersonation and sometimes thought that there was plenty of fraud going on .

    Maybe some of the ‘cultural difficulties ‘ are fraudulent staff ….
    ( there is no evidence of this – as the BBC recites so often – for certain subjects ) ….

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  17. theisland says:

    Stelter outlined his idea for “A harm reduction model”, which he was at pains to explain was definitely not part of any “cancel culture”.

    “This is complicated, but harm reduction is possible. Harm reduction is possible by adding more news and less opinion to the content,” he added, pretending to be unaware that the network he works for engages 24/7 in pure opinion.

    Sound familiar?

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  18. StewGreen says:

    BBC don’t do advertisements
    then what is this ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      It’s BBC creating a brand called “BBC Good Food”
      then renting the rights to magazine publisher Intermediate Media Ltd
      who then stick adverts on it
      but don’t on their homepage make any reference to not being the official BBC site.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Like that dodgy ‘masterclass’ series being flogged on Facebook.

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        • JohnC says:

          .. and don’t forget ‘Every penny you donate goes to children in need’.
          The charity ‘Children in Need’ that is. Not children who need it. Who cream off 6 million for themselves.

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    • Dave666 says:

      The BBc run advertising on Breakfast everyday. Well they did when I last watched it.

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    • Sluff says:

      We ate the meaty version of this last week. It was on special offer at the supermarket and can be microwaved. So a very easy option.

      Of course its the right-on BBC trying to tell us that being Vegan is good and eating meat is bad. Must be to do with global warming………

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  19. richard D says:

    Strange, but I can’t find a mention on the BBC regarding the apparent ‘apology’ from Labour’s Shadow Minister for Europe (Catherine West) for her comment that the Conservative government’s decision to not enrol in the EU’s vaccination plan last year was ‘dumb and dumber’.

    Her tweet today says

    “Last year, I tweeted about the EU vaccine scheme. My tweet has proven to be wrong, and I’ve now apologised and deleted it. Our NHS is doing a great job and I’ll continue supporting the effort to vaccine Britain.”

    Sorry, but exactly who has she apologised to ? The Conservative Government ? If so, let’s see the grovelling apology in full…. unless she thinks that the tweet itself is an apology – which it absolutely is NOT !

    Another Labour non-apology, which says she was comenting on the EU Vaccine Scheme – which she clearly was not – she was commenting on Boris Johnston and the UK government’s decision-making – and which also tries to squirm out of any sort of expression of regret to those she was criticising, by praising the NHS.

    I bet the BBC is just working hard on holding another Labour Shadow Cabinet member to account…….NOT.

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  20. Fedup2 says:

    Now that the government has allowed the South African variant to have a free ride on a plane into the UK – how they contain it when the areas affected include Tottenham and Enfield – some of the very third world areas of London ……?

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  21. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #4 – the BBC could still find they have an uncomfortable landing on the ground.

    The Education thing again – my update to the previous post got lost due to an internet drop-out. Blair & Brown appeared to be getting ready to privatise Secondary Education in the UK with Gordon Brown’s Child Trust Fund initiative being the first step in expanding paid for education in the UK. The budget for education spending occupies a top spot in the list of annual HM Treasury expenditure every year. Not sure whether it is No.2 after the NHS but it is certainly in the top five.

    In addition, having allowed, perhaps encouraged, teachers over the years to be indoctrinated with Socialism in all its varieties, the Labour Party now has to deal constantly with bolshie teachers and their Unions when they are in government. Wouldn’t it be good not to have to deal with that at a Secondary level at least? Then a Labour government could spend that money on other ‘favourite causes’.

    The same is now true for a Conservative Government who, like Viv Nicholson, have had to “Spend, spend, spend” but due to the Pandemic. I’m sure Rishi will be looking to get some spending off the books at Treasury. It was notable that on TWatO today, the BBC had some private solutions to the current education problems that are disadvantaging children. Some Beeboids have enjoyed private education and I’m sure that others choose to spend their high incomes sending their kids to private schools or at least paying for tutors and ‘holiday crammers’ in order to get their little darlings through their exams.

    Which way would the BBC fall though, if a Conservative Government chooses to follow that probable Labour Party path? The Teaching Unions would howl with rage, and so would the Parliamentary Labour Party. Would the BBC, minus its impartiality leg, fall in with them or on the side of a Conservative Government needing to ‘balance the books’? One way of avoiding a 75% top Income Tax rate band on high BBC incomes would be to privatise Secondary Education.

    The BBC might just topple in that direction.

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  22. StewGreen says:

    The BBC love Crafty Crap
    The BBC love Activism
    hence 10pm BBC4 Craftivism

    Comedian @jennyeclair meets crafters using their skills to make the world a better place, one stitch at a time.
    https://bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000rxn0

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  23. Deborah says:

    6pm BBC1 news and a report to say that the pandemic will cost school children £40,000 over their working lives. I think, give or take, it means £1,000 a year. Of course we could all enjoy an extra £1,000 but will mean little difference in 20 years time. But it gave the BBC the opportunity to go hurtling off to an area of high deprivation for their usual whinge that things aren’t fair.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I also believe that this falls under BBC #couldfiles meaning it ‘could’ be anything, or nothing.

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    • Tabs says:

      Looks like the BBC have recycled an old anti Brexit article and changed a few words.

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  24. StewGreen says:

    Panorama tonight
    the staggering news that gangsters are involved in the boxing industry
    .. must be some brand new thing …/sarc

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  25. Guest Who says:

    The Media.

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  26. StewGreen says:

    That Muslim PR agency that gets Muslims on TV gets another hit

    BBC local news : Scunthorpe Muslim couple .. she’s a nurse in the hospital and got Covid whilst pregnant so ended up that her baby was 6 weeks premature and she couldn’t see it for 6 weeks.

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  27. Guest Who says:

    BBC N.America handling media sales?

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  28. Guest Who says:

    In which a bbc cubicle garden cousin tells his relative a thing.

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  29. StewGreen says:

    LBGT History month
    R4 Arts prog tonight 1 of 3 items is
    We mark the publication of a landmark anthology of queer writing, Queer: A Collection of LGBTQ Writing from Ancient Times to Yesterday, which brings together an unusually broad range of voices from across the ages and the globe to form a survey of queer literature”

    Then 8pm The Anti Trump prog
    8:30pm prog “Personality Politics” ..probably more anti-Trump

    9pm The Mike Wendling show “Year of Misinformation”
    more anti-Trump

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  30. Guest Who says:

    In which the bbc selects what it checks.

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    • theisland says:

      Is Shayan some sort of computer whizz?
      I’m not sure searching for and quantifying posts on Gab is that easy, so I suspect his ‘most liked, reposted and discussed’ description may be a bBC fabrication.
      Hopefully someone will know how to check and expose?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Tell him we can see that of the 4 photos
      we can see that 3 have very few Likes ..eg 2,5, 1
      only the first one has 1,014 Likes

      He’s cherrypicking, cos GROUPS is a special section
      You go to a https://gab.com/groups

      ..and I can’t see anything cos I am not a member of any groups

      It gives me a list of groups
      I see no Trump group with 250K members
      Trump 2020 214.8k Members
      It’s contents aren’t secret I can see them without joining

      I don’t see those posts in Hot Posts
      I’m trying Top Posts
      ah it loaded ..nope no noose posts there

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    • StewGreen says:

      Shayan’s tweet is not being talked about by British people rather the Quote Tweets are all by anti-Republican accounts in America
      who’ve retweeted
      .. “This is the right wing in America right now”

      BBC news is about cooking narrative and the narrative he’s cooked up is
      … ‘look see most Trump supporters want politicians killed #OrangeManBad
      ..#GabIsBad’

      The opening gab post says Treasonous politicians should be executed, of course that’s a popular idea.

      Secondly he then selected a few extreme replies, which actually have very few likes.

      We don’t know who wrote those replies,
      could be anti-Trump provocateurs

      Even the initial post could have been written by an anti-Trump provocateur.

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      • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

        Was it not these people who had a bloody dripping Trump head and various plays and songs fantasising about murdering him?

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      • Guest Who says:

        Exactly as intended.

        Looking at the twitter reactions it is possible there are more in Wendy’s team than engage.

        And of those he blocks most.

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  31. Eddy Booth says:

    Boxing: ‘Crime boss’ Daniel Kinahan still working in the sport
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55888592
    Panorama, Boxing and the Mob is on BBC One on Monday 1 February at 21:00 and BBC iPlayer.

    “Mr Kinahan’s lawyers said he has no criminal convictions and the allegations about him running a violent cartel are false and have no evidential basis.”

    Unfortunately, for the BBC people in Ireland are innocent until proven guilty, why shouldn’t he continue to earn a living?

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  32. Eddy Booth says:

    “19 13
    Italians savour the start of reopening”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-55884275

    Standard BBC self loathing; comparing us heathens to the sophisticated Italians:

    “Gobbling through a takeaway sandwich at the office desk is normal for the Brits.

    …. the relaxing of restrictions in most of Italy today – means this nation’s sacred rituals can resume: a morning espresso inside a cafe; fresh pasta for lunch at the local trattoria; an Aperol spritz in the bar for the early-evening aperitivo on the way home from work.”

    Ok whatever.
    Then uses a photo “Breakfast in Rome” of a slobby woman holding a ciggy next to a pram ????

    eec9eaf0-2c95-4555-878d-ea0f1cca9b6f.jpg

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  33. pugnazious says:

    The BBC tells us…

    ‘Teenage neo-Nazi from Cornwall is UK’s youngest terror offender’

    Surely not…surely a victim of grooming on social media and a shocking failure of government to protect him from such insidious incitement….a mere child who has suffered possibly the worse case of child radicalisation in the western hemisphere….all he wants is forgiveness and understanding…he knew not what he did and was led astray by those with malicious intent.

    Apparently not…the BBC is all out of the milk of human kindness having used it all up trying to explain away Muslim teenage terrorism…nothing to see there of course….and no such attempts to explain away the boy’s radicalisation…he’s just an evil nazi white supremacist.

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  34. Fedup2 says:

    I wonder why the BBC didn’t call him a ‘veteran’?

    13 years old ….

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  35. Foscari says:

    I am in complete agreement with Professor Palmer
    who says that the BAME community need somebody
    like Stormzy at the Downing Street pandemic conferences.
    I expected to see Stormzy at Hancock’s half hour today.
    He might explain to the 72% of the BAME community
    who don’t want to be vaccinated that it could save their lives.
    The rapper could do this in his own imitative way.
    Just as the deaf sign presenters get across Matt’s views
    for the hard of hearing Stormzy could use lingo his brothers
    would understand.
    I am sure Stormzy would do it better than my suggestions.
    But it could go something like this.
    ” If your black jab the vacc. It’s much better for you than
    shooting smack.
    If your a Rasta inject the Astra. If your a gyal named Liza
    you don’t want the diseaser, so jab the Pfizer.”
    I am pretty sure with a role model like Stormzy uttering
    this kind of advice or something similar. Many more of
    the BAME community would get vaccinated.

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  36. pugnazious says:

    LOL….reading on Guido what Labour says about us joining the CPTPP trade bloc and it’s remarkably similar to what ITBB? reports the BBC has been saying…..

    Labour…

    “… people will rightly ask why we have been through five years of debate in Britain over leaving a trade bloc with our closest neighbours only to rush into joining another one on the other side of the world without any meaningful public consultation at all”

    The BBC…

    ‘The Government has announced that Britain wants to join a trade partnership of 11 countries including Australia and Japan. The partnership is known as CPTPP. It was only formed in 2018 but could offer tariff-free trade with a host of countries in the Pacific. Well, our Global Trade Correspondent Dharshini David is here with me now. Dharshini, some people might say, why have we let the EU to join another big global trading block?’

    There might be a difference between the suffocating embrace of the EU political superstate and a trading bloc no?

    The BBC seems very negative and paradoxically likes to suggest ‘why bother when we’ve already got so many trade deals across the world now’….hmmmm….was a time when the BBC insisted we’d never get any trade deals…..and anyway they’d all amount to nothing much and in no way fill the void left by poor old EU once it was dumped by Britain….now it hates the fact we look like joining a promising and growing trade bloc.

    The BBC just hates Britain being successful whether at trade or in dealing with vaccinations.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug
      I actually can’t believe that the Labour Party still thinks the ReichEU is a ‘trading block’… have they missed the whole reason why we left ?

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      • JimS says:

        Treaty of Rome, first two clauses:

        HIS MAJESTY THE KING OF THE BELGIANS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRENCH REPUBLIC, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ITALIAN REPUBLIC, HER ROYAL HIGHNESS THE GRAND DUCHESS OF LUXEMBOURG, HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN OF THE NETHERLANDS(2),

        DETERMINED to lay the foundations of an ever closer union among the peoples of Europe,

        Hidden in plain sight since 1957!

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        • Fedup2 says:

          JimS
          Yes when I was studying the EU this came as a revelation to me – sold it as a simple ‘trading block ‘ not a US of Europe – we were lied to throughout …

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        • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

          Which makes a nonsense of the claim that “we thought we were joining a trading bloc” in 1973, and when we voted heavily to stay in the EEC in 1975.

          That’s an “ever closer union” of peoples, not of states. It means working in partnership and not shooting at each other any more.

          Of course those who speak of the “ReichEU” and other silly names are giving away their silly illusion that Britain is still at war with a Germany hell-bent on conquest. In 1975 the great majority of people voting Remain had lived through WW2 and quite a few of those had been through WW1; they didn’t want to go through it again. By 2016 there weren’t many of those left, but a great many who had grown up on the glorious mythology of a war we actually got through by the skin of our teeth, grateful to have survived.

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  37. theisland says:

    Anne Marie’s livestream is here.

    The relevant piece starts at 37:00.

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  38. Fedup2 says:

    Twitter watch
    It seems that a certain EU commissioner called mairaid mcguinness ( spelling ) has said that she was unaware of the Friday night border fun in her own country .

    This lady – sorry – horror is one of those bbc favoured EU mouthpieces who turns up on QT and various BBC shows and given the traditional easy time …

    Tonight some fool from the EU has made reference to the pope with regard to fallibility of infallibility … not wise with regard to either southern or Northern Ireland ….

    And something about another horror – Joanna cherry – one of those SNP – being sacked / stepping down from some job?…

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  39. Sluff says:

    BBC shows true feelings again..

    On Only Connect, BBC2 8 pm Mon, there is the following sequence given. Beecham Pils, Beecham Group, SmithKline Beecham. And the answer to ‘what’s next’ is Glaxo SmithKline.

    Victoria Coren Mitchell then states in terms ‘this is the most boring question we have ever had. Moving on quickly’

    And that, dear readers, is what the statist BBC really think about private businesses that employ tens of thousands, bring in billions in overseas revenue, pay hundreds of millions in tax, and save us from serious illness along the way.

    So much easier to be given ÂŁ4 bn a year in compulsory tax than to have to earn your own living.

    Patronising tossers.

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    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      Funny, I thought it was what Victoria Coren Mitchell thought, not the BBC.

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  40. StewGreen says:

    That BLM activist guy posing as a Trump supporter at the Capitol has rearrested for breaching bail terms
    John Earl Sullivan is in custody
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/update-capitol-hill-rioter-antifa-activist-john-sullivan-accused-violating-terms-release-agreement/

    I see they have an article saying Ted Cru is backing away from Trump.

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  41. StewGreen says:

    Professor Alan Dershowitz: The President never said “peaceful” and “patriotic” because I know that.
    I watch CNN and PBS.

    And if you watch PBS and CNN and you watch MSNBC, the president never said peaceful protests.
    Because that’s the way we learn our history.
    We learn it from channels that now doctor tapes and edit things out.

    ..the media simply picks and chooses which words to show the American public.

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  42. davylars says:

    BBC news this evening.. Gleefully report a labour motion, supported by a number of conservative MP’s, about the cost of replacing cladding on buildings in lieu of the Grenfell fire.
    Of course the BBC agree and expect the government to foot the bill with sob stories from the poor people in such unfortunate positions.
    However, we have all seen that the BBC have no concerns whatsoever for the poor people, who in the future will have to foot the bill for the ridiculous green policy’s that they fully support and are so willing to have thrust upon on all of us.
    Heat pumps, electric vehicles, charging points, triple glazed windows, extra insulation and the possibility of being unable to sell our houses if they do not conform with future energy efficient regulations.
    Also the expected huge rises in the cost of power.

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  43. StewGreen says:

    Not Islam
    France “A man was arrested by the Raid on Monday, February 1 in Toulon, after the head of a homeless man was found in a cardboard box, thrown through the window on the 3rd floor of an apartment, located rue Garibaldi.
    The man arrested is a former soldier in the process of divorce.

    https://www.euronews.com/2021/02/01/man-arrested-in-toulon-after-severed-head-found-in-cardboard-box

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  44. Sluff says:

    Naively looking at the BBC Sport webshite front page to check a football result, here are some of the featured stories.

    Six LGBT sports people you should know more about.
    Is football’s racism battle being lost……..
    Para- bobsleigh not in 2026 Paralympics.
    I knew coming out would hurt me……
    Justin (gay footballer) taught me how to love without judging.
    Meet milk – the figure skating drag queen.
    I am gay – the fear of coming out in a macho world.
    I was told black people sink in water.
    Keegan Hirst – being gay in Rugby League.

    You just cannot make this torrent of agenda-driven bilge up.
    Are they having a laugh at our expense?
    Have they gone utterly mad?
    Have I gone through a wormhole into a parallel universe.

    One thing is certain. The BBC’s concept of sport and the real world bears no relation whatever to mine.

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    • StewGreen says:

      There’s a sport’s story
      ‘Children are not born hating someone else’

      Well the BBC is THE HOME OF HATE
      It works hard to teach people to hate Trump, to hate Farage, to hate Brexit, to hate Boris, all the way back to hate Thatcher.

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      • JimS says:

        Then add in all those people portrayed as ‘victims’.

        The BBC likes to push a generalised narrative, which isn’t really reporting the news impartially because it is wrapped up with their opinion. If they were subtle about it they might generate some sympathy to their cause. But they then go into overdrive, actively seeking personal stories from ‘victims.

        So we go from, The ONS says that “95% of teachers come from Earth, 5% come from Mars”, to “Walton-on-Thames man, Mzchk Mkzx accuses Boris of not providing language lessons for his 29 starving children. Mzchk, who arrived on Earth last month, says the local authority have only provided him with a four-bedroom house and the local foodbank doesn’t stock Ckxhb, a staple of Mars, the only food that he and his 29 children and 2 partners can eat. Mkzx, who is a tri-sexual, accused Boris Johnson of not meeting his needs and speciesism. Far-right groups in the town have written strong letters to the Waltham-on-Thames Advertiser, saying their children should come first.”

        To which we all think, “B*gger off, Mkzx”, and so another hate group is created by the BBC.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      There seems to be a battle for prominence between bent and racist stories

         18 likes

  45. StewGreen says:

    Things people don’t tell you
    Twitter is heavily connected to the Dems

       13 likes

  46. StewGreen says:

    left eat the left, they have started on Maajid Nawaz

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  47. Dave666 says:

    Anyone noticed that replies to BBc complaints are arriving in their E-mail inboxes at odd hours. Today a reply arrived at 05:30. My latest series of complaints concerns day time TV dross. Being screened in the 19:00 – 20:00 slot. I’m getting the usual replies scheduling is a difficult business we aim to please a wide verity of audience. Blah blah blah. It seems BBc scheduling is now reduced to pre 18:00 being pretty much a carbon copy every day of the week and is now extending into the evening. In response I did point out that the “show” I singled out was on the I player so anyone desperate to watch it could do so at any time. I did comment that they must have thousands of hours of TV stored somewhere and why do they not show some of that instead of the same old same old. Is it me or has Dads Army being on re run since the 1980s? I did suggest re running Gangsters (1970s Maurice Colbourne) I never saw series 2 on the DVD is selling for an eye watering ÂŁ170 odd quid on a well know internet sales site. Or something like it ain’t half hot Mum also on the same site the cover appears to be featuring the BBC logo. I won’t hold my breath on those two.

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  48. Dave666 says:

    Anyone noticed that replies to BBc complaints are arriving in their E-mail inboxes at odd hours. Today a reply arrived at 05:30. My latest series of complaints concerns day time TV dross. Being screened in the 19:00 – 20:00 slot. I’m getting the usual replies scheduling is a difficult business we aim to please a wide verity of audience. Blah blah blah. It seems BBc scheduling is now reduced to pre 18:00 being pretty much a carbon copy every day of the week and is now extending into the evening. In response I did point out that the “show” I singled out was on the I player so anyone desperate to watch it could do so at any time. I did comment that they must have thousands of hours of TV stored somewhere and why do they not show some of that instead of the same old same old. Is it me or has Dads Army being on re run since the 1980s? I did suggest re running Gangsters (1970s Maurice Colbourne) I never saw series 2 and the DVD is selling for an eye watering ÂŁ170 odd quid on a well know internet sales site. Or something like it ain’t half hot Mum also for sale on the same site the cover appears to be featuring the BBC logo. I won’t hold my breath on those two.

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    • JimS says:

      From memory Gangsters Series 2 isn’t worth watching. It was as though ‘the powers that be’ realised that a good crime drama had been produced that was not based in London so it had to be put down. The second series was more a comedy than a crime series.

      Birmingham has always had a traditional place within the BBC, it is one of the few places outside London that they have heard of and has always been used for those ‘say no more’ jokes of the style used by all BBC people about Donald Trump.

      (I heard Paul Sinha on Radio 4 Extra the other night in a programme, probably first produced towards the end of 2020, in which, finding an American in the audience, told him that we all depended on him ‘to vote the right way in November’ – audience laughs).

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      • Dave666 says:

        I read series 2 was a bit “out there”. Still I imagine even asking for it to be repeated will offend someone. There is a brief clip on you tube featuring a Austin Allagro being hammered around.

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  49. Scroblene says:

    Stew mentioned the BBC flouting its ‘impartiality’ regarding advertising earlier in these posts. There’s a picture of a vegan Haggis.

    Totally agree, Stew, they should keep their nutcase ideas to themselves and aren’t supposed to be allowed to advertise anything!

    But anyway, if vegans and other minority cranks want to nosh their tasteless stuff, why do they have to call their crap ‘haggis’ or ‘sausages’?

    If they’re trying to stay away from normal food, then why do they have to try and retain a semblance of nice, meaty, food taken by normal citizens?

    I’m sure these odd people have enough time on their furlough to make up new words to describe the awful stuff they ingest, it’s a known fact that whenever they speak to anyone, even strangers, they tell the unfortunate ‘listener’, of their peculiar ideas!

    If the supermarkets had a special aisle for totally vegan stuff, it’d be a complete waste of ÂŁ45.00 a ft!

    …rather like the glittering people’s palace in W1AA…

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    • JohnC says:

      I bought one of those vegan Haggi (the plural of Haggis) and a normal Haggis for Burns night the other week.
      The vegan one was like eating sawdust.
      I tried mixing them together, but then it all tasted like sawdust.

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      • Guest Who says:

        I tried mixing the whisky with the haggis once.

        Didn’t help.

        So stuck with just the whisky.

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      • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

        ‘Haggices’, philistine!

        As an skoolboy and gurl kno, it decline like ‘durex’

        durex
        durex
        duricem
        duricis
        durici
        durice

        durices
        durices
        durices
        duricium
        duricibus
        duricibus

        haggis
        haggis
        haggicem
        haggicis
        haggici
        haggice

        haggices
        haggices
        haggices,
        haggicium
        haggicibus
        haggicibus

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  50. JohnC says:

    When you think the BBC can’t stoop any lower, just look at this:
    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: ‘I’m a survivor of sexual assault’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55897922
    They start by portraying her as the ultimate victim. Then they give her a soapbox quickly infer all the protesters at the Capitol were the same as her abuser. And it gets better : she eventually labels the entire congress as abusers.
    Then, when Ted Cruz (Republican) tried to agree with her on something, she said ‘ “You almost had me murdered three weeks ago so you can sit this one out.”
    The only one murdered as far as I remember was an unarmed woman protester. And to use that line during government business shows me she is entirely unfit for office. She is full of hate.
    But the real elephant in the room is how the accusations of sexual abuse against Biden are never mentioned. Complete hypocrite.
    This article rates as one of the worst pieces of ‘journalism’ I have seen on the BBC.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Thought that there was something wrong with AO-C a couple of weeks ago. She needs to step down from Congress and seek some good medical help for herself.

         13 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Been something wrong with her since day 1, when some smart, evil activists picked a thick good-looker and groomed her for greatness online and on TV, secure in the knowledge that the MSM at least would run interference or politely ignore.

        Trouble is she started liking the attention, and hype and power. And has gone off piste a few too many times.

        Bit like Greta. Not a good looker. Or of value much longer as ‘child’.

        Or Marcus Rashford, whose team might struggle to keep up with all he issues, and is subjected to, mostly without him ever being aware.

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