Midweek Thread 13 January 2021

Free Speech feels under greater threat than ever before . Non ‘approved ‘ thinking or comments can get an entire website removed from easy access . Some think this site is a target for such treatment . It would be good to get ideas from users how the work of the Biased BBC website could continue should enemies of free speech succeed .

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579 Responses to Midweek Thread 13 January 2021

  1. digg says:

    The impeachment pantomime in the USA means that the cancel culture has now infiltrated into Government there.

    The Dems and in particular the repellent Pelosi and AOC are quite rightly terrified that DT will come storming back in 2024 and god help them if he does!

    This is the only reason that they are trying to pull it off.

    I hope it fails and I hope he gets revenge in due course. If not the USA is in for a very hard lesson.

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    • StewGreen says:

      multiple reasons surely ?
      eg to deter someone copying him
      eg cos they are triggered & vindictive
      eg it’s a Saul Alinsky thing, that you must crush your opponents not just compromise
      etc.

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      • digg says:

        It’s like school kids who punish other kids they don’t like by getting all their mates to stop talking to them, this is the grown up version but same thing really.

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  2. Guest Who says:

    I like to stay informed, so surf widely and broadly. Especially in areas of interest such as science and engineering.

    This can be a taxing endeavour.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-shared-psychosis-of-donald-trump-and-his-loyalists/?

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    • digg says:

      I followed that link guest who, what a conceited puffed up specimen she is! Like a robot programmed to spout absolute crap. No doubt a degree in human studies or some such rubbish got her the job.

      Her professors would be proud, it’s almost as if it’s them talking.

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  3. StewGreen says:

    BBC local news
    “Grimsby shellfish company confirms its first orders have arrived in the EU no problem.”

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    • Beltane says:

      Don’t tell Fatty Blackford! He took Boris to task with a heartrending tale of some Scotch fisherperson whose £40k lorryload of shellfish was ‘condemned’ thanks to Brexit – although he didn’t actually define what had happened to it.
      No doubt the grinding poverty imposed by heartless Tory absentee landlords deny hard working Scots any mobile refrigeration facilities – but how else are we expected to keep our Pimms well chilled?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Beltane – I saw that too – I bought some salmon yesterday – I think it came from Norway …. maybe if Scots didn’t charge so much they could have flogged it to the hated English …..

        …. I saw boris tease fatty blackford over the ‘Oxford Astra Zeneca ‘ vaccine – the national socialists of Scotland seem not to be able to say ‘Oxford ‘…

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    • digg says:

      One of my clients had their first ever internet order from Germany this week, previously most orders abroad came from everywhere in the World except the EU. Maybe they are savvy enough to realise they now don’t pay VAT on UK orders shipped to EU countries or maybe they are just trying to help out?

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    • taffman says:

      Interesting. What other bits of local news are Al Beeb not going national with ?

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  4. Fedup2 says:

    Guest Who
    Wow – to think I used to subscribe to Scientific Yank as a yoof – now it turns into a propaganda rag …

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  5. Doobster78 says:

    Have a good weekend what ever your plans are 😄😄

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  6. R P McMurphy says:

    BBC local news Look North, school children going hungry at lunch time, inadequate free lunches, ITV local news, record numbers of school children now obese. Agenda’s, what agenda’s ? And one of the mothers complaining about the freebie food looks like she had spent a few quid on getting her nails done. Priorities ?

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  7. Fedup2 says:

    Im watching spurs on prime but BBC news is enjoying showing the impeachment circus .

    Katy and the boyfriend have a tame expert . Will Trump lose his pension ? Will trump lose his library ? Will trump lose his secret service protection? Will we get a chance to kill trump ? They ask eagerly ( spot the one false question) . The swamp really wants him dead .

    No mention that the president gave up is $400k pa pay to vet charities ….

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    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      You wrote “spot the one false question” …

      But is it false? Sir David Attenborough (BBC to his fingertips) actually did rehearse the scenario of shooting Trump in an interview with the Radio Times (as quoted in the Independent on 1/11/2016):

      “We could shoot him, it’s not a bad idea.”

      The naturalist was also quoted by the Mirror as saying “how he leapt from his chair and punched the air in delight after climate change-denier Donald Trump lost the US Presidential election.”

      How this man is still working for the BBC after incitement to murder, really baffles me.

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      • Seppers says:

        I used to admire him, and part of that lingers; he’s made fantastic programmes with the bbc over the years. Life in the Freezer was and still is astonishing.
        Why can’t he and beeb just go back to what they were good at?
        I don’t mind him personally caring about climate change… it’s very related to habitat loss etc. But it doesn’t justify saying what he did… and I guess just assuming people would all find it funny…

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  8. Doobster78 says:

    And on they go ….on and on and on and on and on ……..zzzzzzzzzz …

    We left BBC !!!!! Get over it !!!!!

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    • taffman says:

      “Brexit will increase food supply chain costs, warn business groups”

      We are now seeing Project Fear MK3
      Operation get us back in ?

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    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      RE: those starving (but, strangely obese?*) kids again…

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55641740
      Free school meals: Mother’s ‘sadness’ at ‘mean’ food parcel

      (for once I think the BBC are right to use quotation marks there)

      There’s a video embedded in the article of ‘Jack Monroe: Free school meals replaced with a ‘poverty picnic”

      (She definitely says those parcels couldn’t feed a family for 10 days, fair enough, but I’m pretty sure each parcel is only supposed to supply lunches for 1 (one) child, not a family?!)

      Anyway, it got me thinking, where have I seen Jack Monroe before…

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Monroe

      Wasn’t there some kefuffle about her claiming to be ‘suffering in dreadful poverty because of the awful Tories’ when she was actually shown to have plenty of cash and be living in considerable luxury, some years back? Or was that some other ‘Labour party spokesperson called Jack Monroe’?

      *Not sure if all the kids getting ‘free’ lunches are actually obese, and children starving for real is no joke. However, I’m sure others must have noticed that most of the mums appearing on the telly to whinge about’ ‘free’ food, look as if they could feed a family of six on what they must eat just on their own!

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    • Seppers says:

      Surprising because… not what they were predicting in 2016?

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  9. Thoughtful says:

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  10. Doobster78 says:

    DISGUSTING. Simply DISGUSTING.

    A President who loves his country, bought record employment, record black employment, booming economy, record stock market, brokered peace in the middle east, dialogue with North Korea, paid his salary to veterans charities, kept the USA and it’s citizens safe and always put Americans first ….and the dems and BBC and msm treat him with the respect they would show a piece of shit !!!!!!!!

    Keep fighting Mr President 👍

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    • StewGreen says:

      Doesn’t it have to go through the second house with a two thirds majority to be a proper impeachment ?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Stew -do you not think they’ll change the numbers to meet their needs using techniques used in the election . Besides – enough republicans will be bribes to have a weak opposition the next time they are up for re election or be promised a job on some rewarding committee with the new regime …

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      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        I think you’re right, 67 votes needed for impeachment. It’s 50-50 at present, after the Democrats’ three gains, with the new VP able to break the tie in favour of the Democrats after the new President is inaugurated. There’s also a requirement for 60 senators to vote to stop a “filibuster” (talking out a proposal by using up available time). If the Republicans have 50, that’s rather more than the 41 they would need to keep the talking going.

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  11. taffman says:

    Can anyone point out an example of our cherished Al Beeb boosting the Nation’s moral in these ‘Covid times’?
    Bo Jo and his cabinet need to “Get it done”
    Rule Britannia !

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  12. pugnazious says:

    Apparently, says the BBC, the people who pushed their way into Capitol Hill were ‘rioting’ but the months and months [and ongoing] of actual rioting with cities burning, police forced to abandon their stations and whole districts taken over by BLM anarchists were ‘mostly peaceful protests’.

    No irony that the BBC reported, with added glee, that Trump was being impeached for inciting violent insurrection [and rioting] when of course he did no such thing…just read his tweets and his rally speech….hard to find anything near to incitement [and his Youtube videos….I saw them last night and nothing stood out in the slightest as encouraging ‘bloodshed’ as Youtube claims they did]…..the very next report was one complaining that ‘young black youths’ were being discriminated against because their Drill music was deemed to be evidence of involvement in violent crime.

    Trump is and evil white supremacist stoking violence and rioting with, er, a long and rambling speech urging his supporters to go to Capitol Hill to make their voices heard…peacefully as Trump said….but black youths blatantly glorying in violence and making lurid threats [and often doing it] to kill other gang members is fine…it’s just their culture…much misunderstood….except of course it’s not….it is what it says on the tin….and rapping about committing violent crime needs to be backed up with authenticity….you have to have done it…like in the Army and ‘stolen valour’….thus Drill Music is real and isn’t just a reflection of other’s lives, its not just an arty form of BBC news report ‘from the ghetto’, it’s about real people doing real things and making real threats.

    ‘We actually do what we rap about.’

    The BBC however continually makes excuses and equivocates….Drill is actually all about an escape from the ghetto, it’s an avenue to success.

    Stuff like this is so much c**p….

    Why drill music is being used to teach philosophy
    ‘Reveal believes for wider society, normalisation of violence is a problem, but for people dealing with post-traumatic stress disorder normalisation is “the first step in the process of reconciling the events of what happened to you and finding a way to move on”.’

    The rappers aren’t using music as a long wail against their ‘orrible lives they’re loving it, they’re bigging it up on Youtube and getting the love, using it to wind up other gangs and showing off big style.

    Still I guess we should be pleased that the BBC is even talking about this….if you’re a young white girl getting raped and abused by a taxi driver in Rochdale the BBC prefers not to raise the issue.

    So…if you’re a Muslim rapist or a black gangsta who likes to stab people and then boast about it in song the BBC has your back….if you’re the President of the US….not so much.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Pretty classic fog making really – to direct attention at events in Washington last week to distract from the theft of the election .

      Even after the false presidential husk is annointed theyll keep after President Trump – leaking over coming months anything they can find to undermine him – impeachment or not . Naturally the BBC will be eager to help .

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  13. taffman says:

    Al Beeb
    Trump has been impeached and Al Beeb provides a ‘Flow Chart’, just like the one they did for Brexit before we actually got out .
    Maybe its an omen ? Because we did get out. Perhaps Trump will stay put ? We shall see…………..

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  14. Sluff says:

    Classic biased BBC. Self-defeating, own goal scoring.
    BBBC1 at 9 pm. What looks to be an interesting programme, especially in lockdown, ‘the Truth about Getting Fit at Home’. And I will admit that the female presenter was ….ahem….rather attractive, even if being called Mehreen Baig revealed another BBC agenda item.

    But, not explained in any schedule, it was almost entirely about women. A section on sports injuries featured only the effects of bouncing breasts. And no, I’m not going down the ooohh errrrr missus route.

    At my age, injuries take a long time to heal, so avoidance is important. But as a male, a sole focus on breast injuries is of no practical interest whatever.

    So a potentially useful programme turns out to be nothing of the kind. Why? Because there was a pro-feminist BAME agenda to fulfill.

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  15. pugnazious says:

    LOL…the irony of a multi-millionaire slagging off capitalists…but hey…at least he’s raising issues the BBC doesn’t want to.

    It comes to something when you have to go to Russell Brand for sage words about Trump and the state of the world….just where is our national broadcaster? Doing all it can to demonise and delegitimise the US President rather than give a rounded and measured analysis of what is actually going on….the coup being launched, yet again, by the Dems to topple a President…just the final moves in a 4 year civil war, one that saw them use Black and Far-Left terrorists as their storm-troopers, against the President, his government, the people who voted for him and in the end democracy itself.

    A civil war that the BBC chose sides on, the BBC which became the cheerleader for the attempted coups and violent riots that rocked the US…and spread here of course…again with the full backing and support of the BBC.

    The BBC is the most dangerous organisation in Britain today.

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  16. Roland Deschain says:

    Can someone enlighten? What form does Trump’s “trial” in the Senate take? Does it actually require something as quaint as evidence, and who decides what constitutes evidence? There seems to be precious little evidence of him actually inciting a riot, at least according to my understanding of the word ‘evidence’. If sufficient numbers vote that asking supporters to peacefully protest is the same as inciting a riot, is that all that is required? Or is there a certain legal threshold that must be met? I presume there must be, otherwise they could vote to convict on the grounds that black is white.

    And what defence is Trump entitled to put up? Can he use this as a platform to dish some dirt he must undoubtedly be in possession of?

    So many questions, and such little chance of any enlightenment from our media, who are surely now so useless as to be redundant.

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    • Old Goat says:

      I believe it IS a trial, per se, and evidence will be introduced. Interestingly, a lot of Trump’s evidence will also be produced in relation to the stolen election, and most of it will not as yet have been given public airtime. A few more folk will awaken…

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  17. Fedup2 says:

    Roland – short answer – don’t know – but I can tell you what the verdict will be – can you guess ? Same with the Biden coronation – they will sterilise it for security reasons – and probably find a way to avoid him trying to use the words to put him into office because of a bad stress day people with dementia become even more confused in their desperation .

    If I d sat down and thought about it I could have written the script . They’ll bury him whether he is alive or dead . … they’ll probably go for his family too – in order to distract from the corruption within the Biden clan ….

    The coming failures of Democrat’ jam tomorrow ‘will be blamed on President Trump with the likes of Obama and Clinton being rolled out as the chorus …

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  18. Doobster78 says:

    So BBC ‘s David Attenborough wants to shoot President Trump.

    BBC ‘s Jo Brand wants to throw acid at Nigel Farage

    BBC ‘s Miriam Margoyles wants Prime minister Boris to die from covid , (comments made when he was seriously ill)

    Black Comedian on BBC makes remarks about “killing whitey”

    What have all the above got in common ?????

    All STILL working for the BBC and some even thriving !!!!

    Funny old world hey ???

    Any politician, media figure from the right says anything out of line (much less than the above) and the BBC all over them like a rash, demanding resignations and apologies !!!!

    DOUBLE STANDARDS ???? What DOUBLE STANDARDS ???

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  19. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    The ‘democrats’ and some lefty republicans behaviour against Trump and tonight’s awful impeachment travesty immediately made me think of the final scene in The Planet of the Apes where Charlton Heston breaks down in front of the ruined Statue of Liberty saying words to the effect of “You finally done it”

    Whatever has happened to the mountains of evidence proving the election was stolen.
    Sydney Powell and her Kraken.
    The rigged dominion machines.
    Dead people’s votes.
    Vote dumps.
    Loads and loads of other fiddles.

    Trump won easily but it was stolen.

    I wonder what 75 million heavily armed highly pissed of Americans will be doing about this.

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    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      Your last sentence is very interesting, EG. We have been hearing for years from trigger happy Yanks about how untouchable they were because they were allowed to keep heaps of firearms around the place. They laughed at us in countries where firearms were discouraged or regulated for safety.
      I often wondered what would happen if they came up against troops who were well armed well trained and had standard weapons and ammunition. A motley collection of various weaponry against trained govt forces. I know who I’d back. (In a wager at least)
      The Us population has been brought up on the myth the the ‘American Revolution’ was a disgruntled group of poorly armed farmers who took on the greatest military nation in the world and won!
      The truth is that American secession was the policy of France planned several years before. Once the Seven Years war was over France decided to bring down the greatly enlarged British Empire.
      They encouraged and armed potentially rebellious colonists. Not too much at first, it had to be clandestine. Artillery which had been stored in barns was not normally the possession of simple country folk.
      Also the redcoat army there was very small and the British Army at home had been cut back at the end of the war. And as for the British Army being the mightiest in the world. Er… no another myth. The French man for man was stronger. The Russian and Austrian could also vie for that title.
      The Americans fought well but towards the end of the war it was the British that had the upper hand. Washington couldn’t pay his men and they were deserting in droves. That’s when the French stepped in with money to pay the remaining American troops and sent in French troops who outnumbered the American contingent at the final battle at Yorktown which swung the war to the rebels.

      This is not the version that is taught in American Schools.
      Unfortunately it is not the one taught in British Schools. The Yanks can do as they like but I am annoyed that when I was at school in the sixties in Britain it was the American version we were taught.
      It’s time to teach British history for British Children!

      But getting back to the point of this post. I honestly don’t expect the American free militias to do anything more against this new Stalininst government takeover than the British people have done to stop the Islamic takeover of their country.

      But we do live in interesting times as they say, so let us see.

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  20. JimS says:

    BBC’s Newsround tells us that ‘the much anticipated’ Black Panther 2 is in the planning.

    “So what do we know about the second movie? What might happen in the film and is there a release date yet? ”

    ‘Some say’ it will feature an all-white cast.

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  21. digg says:

    So the bunch of vipers in the White House have won the first round. He may or may not be fully impeached but to all right thinking people in the Western World this demotes the USA to a Banana Republic from here on in.

    Personally I now hate the USA I am being pressured to visit a relative there right now but will NEVER set foot in that shithole.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      I said that a few years ago after flying to JFK and waiting in a 3 hour queue to get through immigration. 4 flights arrived at the same time with only 4 immigration gates open. Chaos. The surly faced obese migration officers checking passports were charmless. Then being bussed into Manhattan I was horrified at the dirt and rubbish – and we think our capital is the pits !

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      • StewGreen says:

        @BRISSLES the terse attitude of US immigration officers is deliberate I think.
        It’s to get illegals to reveal themselves.

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        • JimS says:

          You mean the illegals are the confident ones?

          I remember my knees knocking, even with a government visa in one hand and joining instructions for a US government ‘facility’ in the other, on landing in Washington D.C.

          Interestingly the US Immigration officers in Montreal, (yes BBC, other countries operate virtual borders, not just UK/France), were always very pleasant.

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    • Scroblene says:

      It’s strange, but I feel the same, Digg!

      Somehow, I feel so let down, not by the shenanigans over there now, but by the fact that there was so much evidence of fraud and nobody ‘high up’ took a blind bit of notice! Is there still time for President Trump to bring in something like a ‘here’s the evidence, you lot’, moment? I’d like to think so.

      Voting irregularity was bad enough in places like Tower Hamlets over here, and of course, voter fraud seems to be endemic in lots of constituencies, usually Labour according to the press, but you’d never get the Beeboids on the case, so the ‘story’ slows down to a halt and disappears!

      I fear for the press in the UK now. So many papers have woke intentions, and there seems to be so little talent for a real story, just gotcha stuff, weak yarns about immigration being ‘good’ for the UK etc, and of course, the BBC love all this, as even if far fewer citzens listen to their stuff, the papers will make up the difference, and this seems wrong on many aspects.

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      • Garry Lavin says:

        Yes. There does does seem to be blanket use of emotive and inaccurate language…..such as describing those people ambling about as…..
        A ‘lethal attack’. (Times).

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  22. Fedup2 says:

    I tried to engage someone called ‘Blackwell ‘ on this site who the left would hate after President Trump . He was quite active – in the character of a troll – but hasn’t had the civility to reply .

    Nor has Blackwell made any comment about the Far Left Biased BBC -in defence or otherwise .

    All the characteristics of a Troll …

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  23. StewGreen says:

    Rule : “It’s OK when WE do it” (2017)

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  24. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    Now I have just posted about British history I need to keep going a little longer before I can cool down. Taffman ruined my morning the other day by bringing to our attention the calls to remove the statue of General Buller in Exeter. I was and still am outraged. I was born a few minutes walk from that statue and it I don’t remember it doing any harm to anybody. Buller is accused of being an Imperialist!
    He was a general who fought bravely in several wars including the Boer war. He was popular with his men and loyal to his country. And his statue was built by subscriptions from many Devonians.
    It is good that this proud son of the county is remembered for his role in the war. He never got the kudos that generals Roberts and Kitchener got for their part ( much better supported but they were also self-publicists) so it is good that in one quiet area of Britain there stood a memorial to him.
    But, enter stage Left the Liberals, the Incomers, virtue signalling Remainer soy boys, gobby feminazis, BLM types in short the brainless tribe of wreckers who have decided it is offensive.
    Does the Statue of Drake still stand in Plymouth? Will they have a go at that? Do these motley crew of misfits rule everywhere?
    Surely it’s time to “drum them up the Channel as we drummed ’em long ago”!

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    • taffman says:

      Yasser
      Why does our so called “Culture and Media Secretary” do nothing about it but watch? Don’t forget, there are other statues. Nelson has already been mentioned by the lefty liberal mob. Drake could be next ?

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    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      And another thing. The sickening collection of vomit inducing brain dead scum show their twisted minds by saying that Buller had a connection with concentration camps. This anti-British tactic is one the IRA supporters use to denigrate Britain.
      The concentration camps during war were not started by the British but by Napoleonic France. The concentration camps in South Africa were concentrations of boer families who had been supplying the boer armies. It was concentrating people in one place to keep an eye on them. It was used with some success in Malaya and with not much in Vietnam by the Americans.
      They were not extermination camps! They were never meant to be such. The term “Concentration Camp” was applied to the hideous slave labour camps and extermination camps the Nazis used. Since world war two the term has become linked so much with the likes of Auswitz etc that it has lost its original meaning.
      This allows the Left to be very devious with history.
      Before any Liberal Weeper asks what about the death rate in these South African camps of women and children I’ll say yes it was high, very high. That was not deliberate but the farm dwelling Boers were not used to close quarters living and they did not have much knowledge of hygiene. Things got very bad and eventually the authorities closed them and let the people drift back to their homes. This funnily enough, led to many Boer soldiers deserting and going back to look after their families, which helped bring an end to the war.
      Let no one tell you that Brits invented the Nazi death camps.
      That’s what Left slime like to do. They have no principles.

      Anyway, that’s enough history from me. I wonder if the BBC would employ me in their history section? What are my chances?

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      • Scroblene says:

        “Anyway, that’s enough history from me. I wonder if the BBC would employ me in their history section? What are my chances?”

        They might, if they wanted someone else to keep their US democrat-fawning as their headline ‘news’, Yasser!

        But you’d have to change all the facts to fiction, as that’s what they do!

        (I did get confused about two US Presidents, Andrew Jackson and Andrew Johnson, so I fact-checked the names myself – much safer to get the truth)!

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  25. taffman says:

    “Covid-19: High Street chemists start vaccinations in England”
    “Some High Street pharmacies in England will start vaccinating people from priority groups on Thursday, with 200 providing jabs in the next two weeks.”
    Why only “200” ? Surely there are more than 200 chemists In the country able to provide jabs ?

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    • Darcy3 says:

      @taffman

      Darcy3
      And your point is …..?
      What has that got to do with Al Beeb ?

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    • Beltane says:

      I thought the same taff – until hearing that a 15 minute ‘observation period’ is required after each jab. Understandably since it’s just possible that some might have an adverse reaction, but this factor limits high street pharmacies to those with enough space for people to sit quietly until OK’d to leave.
      It’s a typical complication that’s had little coverage, not least of course from the prime source of all UK covid information. Perhaps they are waiting for some poor soul to keel over in Boots (other facilities are available) before sending Fergal Keane to interview the grieving family.

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  26. JohnC says:

    Yet again American politics leaves me in stunned disbelief at it’s hypocrisy.
    Pelosi even admitted she wanted to impeach Trump so he could be removed from politics for good.
    Surely SHE should be the one accused of treason ?. What they have been doing is not much different in principle from attempting to assasinate the President.
    They should have been stopped when they had SIX separate committees whose only job was to try and find something they could impeach him with.
    Democracy has failed. I have seen this kind of corruption a lot in Thailand (where they actually voted for an amnesty for all charges of corruption against politicians since 2004). I never thought I would see exactly the same thing happening in the USA.

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    • Scroblene says:

      Am I wrong in still thinking that in Australia, voting is mandatory, so presumably less susceptible to fraud?

      Surely, even though the population of Oz is much smaller than the US, instead of making decisions on all the different voting procedures across the pond, the US could learn something from our Aussie mates!

      Mind you, such facts often go ‘whoosh’ over this ol’ head! I didn’t know until last evening, that Louisiana’s state laws are still based on French Law!

      Guillotines spotted in The Mall…

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    • Guest Who says:

      Lovely hair though.

      If like a wig on Ma Bates.

      Wonder how she gets it done?

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  27. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    Voting is compulsory in Australia. But their voting system is ghastly.
    Not an example to be followed.

    In my opinion votes should never be counted in machines. It is no matter that hand counting takes longer, and costs more. It is a very small price to pay for a fair transparent election.

    There are some things where tech should not intrude and that is one of them

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    • Scroblene says:

      I hadn’t considered that, Yasser, but agree about machinery/algorithms being kept away from results!

      I wish I understood more about how Dominion got their results, but nobody seems to know!

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  28. Guest Who says:

    The BBC’s Moaning Emole has one thing you need to read today.

    Ironically it is solely a picture of a pretty girl in a headscarf who will tell all on why she quit having her photo taken for money.

    Then the big one…

    ***

    Has coronavirus made us more ethical consumers?

    Kimberley Bird says the coronavirus pandemic has turned her into a more ethical, more environmentally-conscious consumer. “This year has really kicked my awareness into overdrive,” says the 32-year-old. “I look at products I’m using, and find more environmentally-friendly alternatives. And I reuse whatever I can.”

    With lockdowns increasing work and financial insecurities, you might think we have had to quietly drop ethical and environmental concerns when shopping. But numerous reports suggest coronavirus has focused our minds on helping create a better, healthier world. A global survey by management consultancy firm Accenture said 60% of consumers were reporting making more environmentally friendly, sustainable, or ethical purchases.

    Read full analysis >

    Katherine Latham
    Business reporter, BBC News

    ***
    Now, how did Kimberley come to share this awesome news with Katherine? Just two ethically conscious, albeit in vague ways, consumers of that very BBC age and gender, out and about.

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  29. StewGreen says:

    11:30am Radio4 : Exhuming the ship where 1,000 illegals died
    I note the BBC phrasing
    “In April, 2015 more than a thousand refugees and migrants drowned when the old fishing boat they were travelling on sank. “

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  30. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – it has maybe started to possibly dawn on the dim, TDS beholden, BBC …..

    … that the hatred toward President Trump (he has six days still to go) of the Democratic Party in the USA may actually hinder Beijing Biden’s Presidency. China Joe had great plans for his first few days in office but now it could all be held up by the present President’s Impeachment Trial.

    Now, remind me BBC, what was the result of that first Impeachment Trial? It wasn’t mentioned this morning.

    I wonder why?

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  31. Thoughtful says:

    The Great Covid Lie.

    There Heresey! Blasphemy! However it is an undeniable truth once the figures are put under even the lightest scrutiny.

    The government, aided and abetted by the media are keeping the statistics needed to make an evaluation from the general public and only releasing headline figures, designed to scare those with no insight.

    1564 people died yesterday scream the headlines, and yet that figure is meaningless. It is the number who died having been diagnosed with Covid 19 in the past 14 days, not those who have died as a direct result of it.

    Even with that muddling pointed out it’s even more meaningless.

    There is no demographic break down of those figures we don’t know the ages genders nor the racial or medical complications, and even worse there are no figures given to compare them to.

    Scouring the governments ONS figures the average daily attrition rate in the UK is 2116, however as we know, that is much higher in the Winter months and lower in the Summer.

    Because we don’t know what the total deaths were yesterday it is impossible to make any sense of the figure given, it is meaningless.

    For all we know the total deaths might have actually gone down from 2116 to 1564.

    I’m sure the media with all its ‘experts’ knows all about this and is either complicit in the project fear figures, or is simply too lazy to ask the searching questions.

    It seems to me that the few statistics which have been released (90% of covid deaths are in the over 80s and 96% are in the top 4 priority groups) that destroying the UK economy is a total over reaction to a problem which is nowhere near as bad as the authorities and establishment are telling us.

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    • Non Snowflake says:

      I’ve been saying this (to anyone who I come within 2 metres of) since about March last year. A total fabrication, figures massaged to fit an agenda, and probably the biggest knee-jerk reaction in recent history by a PM.

      The absolute corker that always makes me laugh (and roll my eyes in disbelief) is when they try to justify all this by saying “you may have COVID-19 but not show any symptoms”. Anything to terrify people….

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      That’s been obvious to me for months. But trying to get it through to people who have had a constant drip, drip from the media (with the BBC in the vanguard) is well-nigh impossible. I know, I’ve been there with my parents and eventually had to back off for fear of falling out with them in their twilight years.

      Perhaps it seems obvious to me because I’m an accountant and after too many years of staring at figures I have a sixth sense for numbers that don’t add. But once you start looking, you can’t unsee.

      People have lost the ability to factor risk into their everyday lives. They cannot abide any risk of catching Covid but think nothing of the risks of poverty, loneliness, destroyed livelihoods and delayed hospital treatments. So desperate are they to not catch Covid above anything else that they never think to ask for the evidence that these restrictions are actually helping, or what the exit strategy is. And until they do, we will continue the spiral to totalitarianism in the name of our best interests.

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    • maxincony says:

      Thoughtful,

      Because we don’t know what the total deaths were yesterday it is impossible to make any sense of the figure given, it is meaningless. For all we know the total deaths might have actually gone down from 2116 to 1564.

      meaningless…”.

      Just yesterday figures were released showing the excess death rate up until November last year. Do you really think that the Covid situation has improved since then? That; “total deaths might have actually gone down”?

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55631693

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  32. AsISeeIt says:

    Disinformation for Hire

    What are they trying to tell us?

    That’s what we ask of our unimpeachably honest press this morning.

    Read their private documents and you’ll see our public health bosses recongised early on that we wouldn’t respond so well to their dry statistics but far better to get a gut reaction from us with those personalised stories of covid tragedy.

    And so it is that the Guardian this morning turns its frontpage into a form of popular memento mori: ‘Tommy Pilling, 62; Barbra Hassack, 55; Kalli Manata-Bozos, 50…’

    Every loss a family and community tragedy, I’m sure, yet the age profile of the Guardian’s victims hardly seems to match the reality of the facts.

    And of course the Guardian is not simply doing this to bolster government lockdown policy, oh-no. The low circulation outlet for oh-so liberal thought has a political axe to grind: ‘Health experts condemn “phenomenal failure of public policy” over virus’

    Put a number on the side of a bus during a political campaign that they don’t like and you’ll never hear the end of it. Exploit family grief to all but accuse the Tories of murder and that’s just fine and dandy.

    Alongside the Gruan’s martyrs gallery inciting hatred of Boris we find their second lead story headlined: ‘Impeached: Trump to face trial for inciting riot at Congress’

    That trial should be quite a show – as Stalin would have said.

    The politicians are back in charge in the States. The FT quantifies the takeover for us: ‘House votes 232 to 197 in favour’

    Also in the pink broadsheet we read: ‘Fake views group enjoy boom. The “disinformation for hire” industry is booming , say researchers, as politicians flock to hire private companies in advertising, marketing and PR to spread fake news online’ – which is good to know.

    However, the giveaway Metro doesn’t seem to have got the message that politicians rule: ‘Prof Van-Tam at No.10 Downing Street briefing in his official role’ – he may have the looks of a bit of a bruiser or a friendly Bond villian but least he’s not downright scary looking like Whitty, the ghoul in the Downing Street attic.

    Top MD for PM the Metro seems to imply with their Van-Tam thank you man, headlines and pics of him both frontlining it: ‘Prof Van-Tam vaccinates a patient doing shift as volunteer’ and suited between two union flags.

    There’s a tired old theory that internet arguments are well and truly over at the point when someone invokes the analogy of First World War Germany. You’ll find the Kaiser started it but Hindenburg and the military gradually edged him aside as they grabbed more power to themselves to takeover all national resources and to set wartime policy.

    Boris is the Kaiser in this joke of an analogy.

    Boris Johnson, hate him or loath him – as I like to say… in fact, I’m sure it is the Lefties who tend to hate him, whilst we conservatives, possessed as we are with a less sloganised and dare I say a somewhat more varied political vocabulary, would prefer to employ the verb loath. Come to think of it, I’m dismayed that given the Tory party when in power prefers to embellish rather than scrap the notion of Hate Crimes, it’s a great disappointment that they can’t at least rebrand the things. Loath Laws has a ring to it. But I digress.

    Are the powers that be starting to fret about the inevitable economic crash that’s looming ever closer?

    ‘Don’t end stamp duty holiday!’ – exclaims the Express. A housing market stutter in the spring could be a potential trigger for the crash.

    Upmarket too there’s hints this calm before the storm can’t be prolonged forever and our masters are looking for a soft landing: ‘Lagarde advises not to cut stimulus… even if inflation begins to rise’ (FT) – that’s something we can look forward to.

    The Germans are noticably slow to turn on their leaders, even when they fail. The FT reminds us that Angela Merkel is still in power: ‘Three men in a vote: The contenders to take the helm from Merkel’ – no mention of elections there we note.

    The Mirror confuses this morning. Their feature headline reads: ‘Covid schools crisis’ – but the Labour-leaning paper doesn’t seem to give a toss that kids are missing their education. Instead we have: ‘Teacher Zane Powels delivers food and PCs to pupils after being “horrified” by meagre Tory rations’ – and lo and behold Mirror photographer Andy Commins was on hand to record for posterity the moment our teachers finally admitted defeat and gave up trying to educate our children and instead became quasi-Amazon/Acado delivery boys.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit
      I dangerously assume that somewhere in the Department of Illness they have a handle on the number of vaccinations being done up and down the UK as well as the number of vaccines being distributed – as well as those wasted .

      Well I think we are entitled to know . But neither the opposition – nor MSM want to know . At the moment the number vaccinated seems to just fall out of a press release.

      The same can be said of deaths . How many people are dying in hospital versus care homes or home ? What is the demographic ?
      Perhaps trawling thought the DOH website gives the answer but i don’t think the numbers are as readily available as they should be . And – yes – I know there is a credibility issue with any numbers they put out but better than nothing .

      I see it as a ‘pact ‘ – Joe public locks down – but we are told – each and every day – what is going on. Yet there are no daily Briefings – instead they put up an over promoted token female ethnic to stand at a lectern looking and sounding like an idiot .

      Simply not good enough – and only ‘gotcha s ‘ from an infantile media .

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      • Fedup2 says:

        An update on this
        A piece in the DT says that national socialists in Scotland released a vaccination schedule last night – which to me – is a good thing .

        Meanwhile the vaccination czar – one – Nadhim Zahawi – did his bombastic act in front of a parliamentary committee yesterday citing ‘national security ‘ as the reason we are being told nothing much

        Nadhim Zahawi – looks and sounds like the sort of character who’d try and sell you bitcoins using all your savings …..-trust me – I’m a politician ….

           14 likes

        • Roland Deschain says:

          Last I saw the schedule had vanished. Perhaps because it included the 29th of February this year and the rest of it was equally fanciful.

             3 likes

          • Darcy3 says:

            Damn, I have just given him my HSBC account number, he has a brother in Africa in a spot of bother with six crates of gold bars happy to help anyway I can

            hang on thats the bailffs at the door again

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      • Up2snuff says:

        AISI, I was surprised that a young lady, just out of the bath – it would appear and naked except for a skimpy robe or dressing gown – is pictured by the Daily Mail out on the street to tell us that she has had a ‘Covid agony’. I’m not surprised, dressed like that in winter. I am surprised that she has not succumbed to half a dozen ailments all at the same time and is now troubling the undertakers.

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    • Banania says:

      And watch the BBC moving in to offer on-line lessons for children at home. What an opportunity!

         3 likes

  33. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – is it not about time that ……

    …. the TOADY Prog has an item or even preferably an interview with some loony environmentalist who has done a study at the Yooni of South Northamptonshire and claims that the south-east of England will face periods of no rain and severe drought thanks to Climate Change?

    This wasn’t an actual item on the programme this morning, as far as I know (I stopped listening at about 6.20 a.m.), but peering through the kitchen window as dawn fractionally lightened the gloom and wet I did wonder if this would actually happen. And what effect it might have on the weather ….

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  34. G says:

    No doubt as others here, I think I am acutely aware of the machinations and manoeuvrings of the communist political class in the US. I follow it with a passion. So, I found the BBC’s (“Our World’s Most Trusted Broadcaster” – Let’s never forget) feature on Toady this morning quite a classic example of typical deceit and dishonesty. “Will base Republicans now abandon Trump” was the question. That question could really quite quickly be answered in the positive. You know the ‘Polls’? This so-called running assessment of the public’s views on controversial topics? You know, the polls that, “Our Worlds Most Trusted…” like to quote? Well, the two most respected pollsters in the US including Rasmussen, has just shown that DJT’s support remains at a high level – unchanged. In fact, it has risen slightly.
    “It is unknown for a President to he impeached twice”. Well, ‘impeachment’ is only a process that didn’t go too well for the communists last time round. The leading legal academics in Constitutional Law in the US have declared that, on the facts, DJT had not committed any Incitement and that, “No court in the US or anywhere in the developed World would find DJT guilty of that allegation”. Well, I might actually disagree with that: Try Commie Judge O’Sullivan (of Gen. Flynn fame) for an example of a ‘balanced unbiased’ court in the US and think again.

    Then, our “Worlds Most Trusted” wheel on a Republican that deserted DJT years ago followed by their own lying correspondent Sopel to add the jam on top and, hey presto! they can then feel comfortable in a job well done in distorted propaganda hoping they hear, “Well done” from their masters in Beijing/Soros.

    Whatever happens in the future, the Communist actors in both opposing parties are now clearly exposed and in the case of the Republicans, I suspect that DJT will deal with them shortly. If not, the Republican voters will have their day.

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    • StewGreen says:

      I wouldn’t get to too wrapped up in it, cos it’s not our country
      and it’s not something we have any control about.
      But the beeboids and the haters are all caught up wit this soap opera.
      And Gorka says Trump should wear impeachment like a badge of honour , that makes him a martyr to their vindictiveness and craziness.
      When he took office he chose to ease back on the divisive fighting.
      Didn’t get into jailing Hilary etc.
      (maybe So she didn’t become a martyr)

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  35. Fedup2 says:

    G
    Distracting people from the stolen election onto what happened in Washington has worked pretty well . Concentrate on attacking trump and there won’t be any follow up on the legitimacy of the voting process – various players will be ganging up on trump with promises from the false presidents ‘ crew that they’re going to be calling the shots for a while .

    It’s all in the script .

    Bidens first address from the Oval Office must be being practiced in his bunker – as with the oath swearing …..if he lives that long ….

       26 likes

    • JimS says:

      “My fellow Americans, united as we are in condemning the 70 million domestic terrorists, one people under Jack Dorsey, my first duty as president is to announce the results of the 2022 mid-term elections.. “

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  36. StewGreen says:

    The school bully gang gangs up on anyone that didn’t spit on Trump.
    Fight #1 Owen Jones vs Andrew Neil

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    • Guest Who says:

      Surely only a matter of time before Wendy does a ‘guest editor’ gig with the BBC misinformation suppression unit with various notables like Jonesy, Lammy, AOC, Pa Thunderburg…

      Saw this just. Not got the time and resources of the BBC NA NA NA BS, but they seem to have missed it somehow.

      ***

      – Joe Biden says he wants to beat up the President.
      – Cory Booker says he wants to punch the President.
      – Robert De Niro says he wants to punch Trump in the face.
      – Maxine Waters says get in Republicans faces in public places, “I will take Trump out Tonight.”
      – Jimmy Kimmel and other late night hosts joke about assassinating the President.
      – Snoop Dog makes a video of assassinating the President.
      – Johnny Depp talks about an actor assassinating the President.
      – Kathy Griffin poses with a severed bloody head of the President.
      – Tom Arnold says: “Don’t get too c…. traitor, they showed up for JFK too”
      – Gaetz is threatened by someone who warned that he will blow the congressman’s head off.
      – Scalise gets shot and almost killed.
      – ANTIFA routinely attacks and now killed conservatives.
      – Hollywood makes a movie about killing Trump supporters.
      – Tucker Carlson has left wing activists at his home threatening to burn his house down with his wife & kids inside.
      – Madonna talks about wanting to blow up the White House.
      – McConnell is threatened by left wing activists at his home to be stabbed in the heart.
      – Democrat Constitutional professor Jonathan Turley’s life is threatened for his opinion opposing impeachment.
      Yet, the Socialist Democrats, CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, TDIP, Media Matters, and the DNC say “Trump is inciting violence.”
      Yeah ok. Let that sink in, hypocrites.

      [Copied]

      ***

      Maybe it is because they only RT CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, TDIP, Media Matters, and the DNC?

      Trusted, impartial and transparent. Apparently.

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    • Guest Who says:

      I try to cut AN slack because of stuff like this and he was mostly the only zig at BBC Zag.

      But the Speccie is mirroring his TDS to a level of joke now.

      There’s some dim Marianna wannabe gushing about whether Sleepy Joe will be wearing Maverick’s signature RayBans… and they want to be taken seriously?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Guest Who
        I think the new TV station will be under a constant examination in the way the State Broadcaster never ( officially ) is . I’m sure that the left media will be looking to bring it down whatever it does or says …
        As for Mr Neill – I often think he is spoilt by that enormous ego he carries and his response to being had over by the red Tories in the election campaign was pretty unseemly .
        We are ‘gifted ‘ with 3rd rate politicians on all sides – AN is pretty good at showing this – hence Boris Johnson’s not becoming a victim .

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Ha ha. Little Owen portrays Andrew Neil as a Trump supporter. Neil has never departed from the BBC line on Trump, and their support for Moslems, always ready to shout down Trump’s supporters.
      But Owen has a point when he bitches Douglas Murray who has conveniently jumped ship.
      Below Neil with Katie Hopkins.

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    • Banania says:

      Would that the Spectator were a bit more far right! I might then consider renewing my subscription.

         2 likes

  37. Darcy3 says:

    Numbers don’t lie, just people

    If they have the judiciary in their pocket the only alterative is the miltary

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  38. Darcy3 says:

    They rioted in Hong Kong for a franchise, for a voice, and in Capitol Hill

    Nancy Pelosi said no and ripped up an elected President’s speech

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  39. StewGreen says:

    The habit of giving false narratives
    In Sargon’s Dec 16 podcast about The Grooming gangs report
    He points out the narrative cooked up is “most participants in some kind of grooming gang are white”
    … em yes but the main thing is that 87% of the country is white.
    The reports conclusions come from summarising about 5 different studies all of which show that compared to population demographic a particular group Pak/Bangla Muslims make up a huge disproportionate amount of cases. It certainly is not the case that they only account for 5% etc.
    Yet the report chose to barely mention Muslims instead it mentions Muslims as victims a couple of times, and “Islamophobia”
    Youtube segment

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    • StewGreen says:

      Callum points out that Peter McLoughlin has a clear list of about 500 grooming gang members and states the ethnicities.
      http://www.pmclauth.com/grooming-gang-statistics/gangs-jailed/view

      Callum says all non-lefty activists like Peter were excluded from participation
      but lefty activist Ellla Cockbain was invited
      He paraphrases her argument in her Jan 2020 report
      “Failing victims, fuelling hate: challenging the harms of the ‘Muslim grooming gangs’ narrative”
      ‘well if we aggregate child sexual abuse to be all of it because “grooming” doesn’t really mean anything therefore the majority of perps are white therefore race is not an issue and everyone’s overblowing this”

      AFAIK if you are in denial about a problem , you can’t tackle it.
      Callum adds she’s ‘that Sarah Champion fuels the far-right, Priti Patel is a racial gate-keeper’ and dismissed everyone who expressed concern including Jack Straw. some quotes

      Why does the HO say “our data is poor” and then run the Guardian narrative “white people do it too, so it’s not a special problem” ?
      Why do the HO seem to nothing to fix the problem ?
      “Stones have been left unturned due to Political Correctness”

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      • Kaiser says:

        I think it was mentioned that open case were excluded from the report

        and most of the “grooming” gang investigations seem to be on going a neat little side step.

        Oddly the statistics and raw numbers to support the findings were not published, a very strange situation indeed if they truly reflect what the HO wanted them to.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Lefty thinking “She didn’t actually say Rip Up Trump,
      she didn’t use the words,
      but I am a bit mentally subnormal and I took it to mean I should try to kill him.
      So everyone would agree she incited me”

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  40. Darcy3 says:

    THAT is what Pelosi thinks of democracy

    and in life we all find things we disagree with, but one thing stands out, the left find it difficult to contain their hate even in a public meeting

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    • JohnC says:

      The real concern is that half their population share that hate and are completely happy for it to be shown so publicly.
      Pelosi should have been strung up in the media as a traitor to democracy for what she has done, but as a disporportionate number of journalists are left wing, she gets a free ride every time.
      Nobody hates like the Left. The most outrageous hypocrites of anyone. Which is why I full believe they are capable of the fraud they are accused of.

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  41. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    I don’t understand how to add photographs, but on a local facebook page here in Scotland, someone made a FOI request to our local health authority asking how many covid 19 deaths recorded without underlying condition.
    There was a photo/scan of the reply which has now been removed.
    March 2020 – Jan 2021 – a grand total of 6.

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    • StewGreen says:

      It’s not obvious on Twitter
      but sounds like Tayside
      Someone asked how many just Covid deaths in Ninewells Hospital
      and the answer came back “6 in Tayside hospitals”

      I guess that actually means just that one hospital
      cos it is contradicted by another FOI where it says for
      21 people died where Covid was the sole cause of death in Tayside hospitals

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      • StewGreen says:

        Oh that second image is rather wide : same image cropped

        The point is it’s all about Covid activists looking for a gotcha so they are running around doing lots of FOIs and then cherrypicking.
        The data is not to January but rather to November and talks of 377 total Tayside Covid deaths
        which strips down to 21 if nothing else is mentioned on the death certificate
        But the point is we already know Covid’s strongest effect is to tip elderly people who already have another malady, over the edge.
        Without Covid those 377 people would have mostly lived a few months longer on average.

        377 from 420K population is about 1 in 1000
        the same for the UK to give about 67K deaths.
        I note that *some* with-Covid deaths wouldn’t have happened without lockdown
        Your cancer appointment gets cancelled
        Your cancer weakens you, you pick up Covid, you die with-Covid.
        No lockdown you might have go good cancer treatment, not got weak, then survived Covid and lived 5 years more etc.

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  42. The WestWyvern says:

    Anyone listening to BBC Test Match Special?

    England are in Sri Lanka, but no one else allowed in to the Country (lesson to be learned there by HMG perhaps) anyhow the AntiBeeb have around 8 people watching the game in their houses, and commentating to us over the radio.

    The term batsman is no longer allowed, it’s replaced with ‘batter’ all round.

    The tea break slot involved an interview with an England women cricketer, about the upcoming trip to New Zealand and how the little loves are coping. Her name escapes me… But i find out she she has a partner, also in the team and will be travelling, not a batting or bowling partner……but romantic partner.

    It’s relentless from these shiester

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  43. StewGreen says:

    China won’t let 2 WHO inspectors in
    ..say they tested positive for Covid antibodies
    (Don’t understand that ..cos if you have antibodies ..you are resistant to Covid)
    The other 13 inspectors are allowed in.
    WHO team arrived in Wuhan, China to investigate the origins of Coronavirus. WHO thread

    My theory is that Covid was in China early like in October etc.
    Then when they couldn’t contain it under wraps
    they created a theatre exercise
    ‘Oh look we have only just found this virus in Wuhan, but we are right on top of it now.
    Aren’t we tough and efficient ?’

    Meanwhile they knew they been leaking cases to the rest of the world for weeks.

    If they did hide a lot of deaths, you should notice a pattern
    like a decrease in the number of 90th Birthday parties in 2021

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    • Sluff says:

      Our former MP used to suggest measuring the amount of shit (can I use that word in this context -OK?) going through the local sewage works.
      An effective way of identifying any difference between claimed ‘official’ population and actual population levels – so rather useful in a number of ways readers could imagine.
      The reason it might not happen is that the incompetence and duplicity of officials thus revealed could prove rather embarrassing to them.

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  44. JohnC says:

    What has struck me about the Capitol riots compared to BLM is how the BLM protests were all reported as abstract group protests. All the individual acts such as the assaults, the shootings and the looting have been blurred into general bullet points to hide them.
    Whereas we are getting in depth articles about single protesters for Trump with the obvious attempt to tar all the others with the same brush.
    This is the kind of stuff which starts civil wars. And when people are motivated to that degree, you can’t just supress them as the Left usually do.
    I have a feeling this might just be the beginning of the trouble.

       43 likes

    • Sluff says:

      The short term selective memories of the Leftoid MSM media is a wonder to behold.
      Allow me to remind the BBC of some of their reporting of recent peaceful protests.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52865206

      ‘Widespread unrest as curfews defied across US’

         12 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      JohnC
      I think the MSM wants to be like that Roman in Spartacus … ( spoiler alert …..) …… crucifying people on the road back to Rome as an example .. in our case the cross is an electronic one ….

         10 likes

      • JohnC says:

        That’s no joke : I am convinced that if they could get away with it, a LOT of Lefties would give themselves the power to send anyone they don’t like to concentration camps.
        I’ve never such spiteful and nasty comments as I have from them since Brexit. Pure hatred.

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  45. Sluff says:

    Not really BBC though related to their friends.
    An excellent memory jogger in the Telegraph today.

    Matthew Lynn reminds us of the Labour Party policy on pharmaceutical companies at the last election. Which I am not aware has yet been rescinded.

    Claiming that ‘our current health innovation model is fundamentally broken’, Corbyn wanted to do this.

    Break up big pharma
    Strip them of patent protection
    Nationalise about half of the industry
    Create a state owned entity to supply drugs to the NHS (and vaccines ??)

    Well now, all of that would have really served us well these past few months. Imagine the Oxford Astra Zeneca or Pfizer/Biontech or Moderna vaccine programmes managed by a Labour Party led central committee. We’d still be waiting for the diversity report on the phase 1 clinical trials. Nor would there be benefits globally of a vaccine which can be produced at scale and in record time. And all without burdening the taxpayer with even more debt.

    Strangely, the BBC have not called out Starmer on this. I wonder why not?

    ‘Sirkeer, given that private sector big global pharm is almost singlehandedly providing the solution to the biggest global pandemic for a century, why do you want to break up, nationalise and so destroy these organisations?’

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    • Scroblene says:

      Sluff, the shortarses in W1A aren’t tall enough to get Suckeer off the top of the fence he sits on all the time, so they go for the cheaper option, just ignore the facts, and make up a sob story!

      I agree with you, Labour would have been hopeless in a crisis like this, they learned how to do absolutely nothing when Bliar and Campbell were helping Brown ruin the UK!

      The BBC will only ‘report’ ‘gotcha’ fake news, so are irrelevant where normal communication is needed. Sadly, a lot of the daily rags are going the same way!

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    • JohnC says:

      .. and I have had radio-2 on quite a bit recently while I’ve been painting and it’s quite amazing how often Starmer is given a free soapbox on their news to make a mini-political broadcast while critising the Tories.

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  46. G says:

    “Schiff: I Have ‘Profound Concerns’ Over Safety Of Congress Members”

    You should do, Mr Shiff. You and the rest have run up a hell of a bill that will have to be paid at some stage.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Imagine colleagues across the political divide used media hit teams to work up mobs to break down gated community barriers?

      And then tried to nail occupants outnumbered 100 to 1 for shows, only, of force, to prevent escalation.

      One day Jon Sopel’s cab will drop him off in the wrong part of town and his hair dye will start to run…

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  47. Eddy Booth says:

    ‘Covid means we may lose our first home’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55652049
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    Basically another demand the government extend a hand out article.
    Two homosexuals Greg and David buying a new townhouse in Salford ( there goes the neighbourhood – since the BBC white flghted it from London to Manchester)
    They’ve supposedly saved throughout their 20s for a deposit , well one is 31, but the other 36 ?
    Now they stand to lose £2000 in fees because the house won’t be built in time to collect a Help to Buy scheme benefits giro.
    And they can’t afford it otherwise.
    Naturally details of their income, the deposit amount, the house price etc aren’t bothered with.

    So why won’t the house be finished in time.
    “In many cases, construction workers have needed to self-isolate, supply lines have slowed, overseas labour may have needed to quarantine, and some traders have been furloughed.”
    Baseless overseas labour problems chucked in for good measure

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    • Guest Who says:

      The means by which ‘victims’ and the bbc locate each other for such sob stories is fascinating.

      And context free ones are getting on my nerves.

      I see Jez is still somehow getting coverage despite his terrorists and scammers initiative tanking like a Surkeer says statement on Today.

      I’d ignore the pathetic little weasel, but he keeps banging on about waiving rent obligations for people who blow their income on fags, Stella and Benidorm getaways during lockdowns.

      As a small scale landlord dependent on tenant rent, his brain dead, comfy sinecure champagne socialism from Islington is grating.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Reporter quotes Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Govt
      @mhclg
      A new HTB scheme starts in April
      As long as developer and purchaser reapply it’ll be fine.

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  48. Fedup2 says:

    God
    I turned on radio 5 by mistake . Chiles had a 10 minutes plus chat with smug Sopel – who is just having his third Trump book published ….
    ……………looks like he is going to be making his supplementary BBC income on slagging trump for the rest of his life . Being called a Beauty by the President did him a lot of good – but naturally the boys didn’t talk about that .

    Instead it was a very long 10 minutes of Sopel trying to sound like naughtie trying to sound like Walter kronkite …..

    As a comedy break – Chiles asked Sopel about being neutral . Sopel went off on some false maths analogy about if 2 plus 2 equals 6 then the BBC will always report that .

    No mention of the stolen election
    No mention of Biden corruption
    American coloureds as victims – whitee bad …
    cops bad .

    Usual tune … off switch .. washed by hands – blew my nose – calm regular breaths – think nice thoughts … bet to couldn’t imagine what they were ….

    By the way – I’m sure I heard Sopel say “ we’ve still got to get the trump impeachment to do ‘

    The ‘we ‘ sound like the word ‘Democrat ‘..

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  49. BRISSLES says:

    I’m fed up with listening to Ashish Joshi. His style of narrative re the Health Service, wouldn’t be out of place in a Shakespearian tragedy. Yes we know the seriousness of it all, but spare us from the over acting.

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