Midweek Thread 13 January 2021

Free Speech feels under greater threat than ever before . Non ‘approved ‘ thinking or comments can get an entire website removed from easy access . Some think this site is a target for such treatment . It would be good to get ideas from users how the work of the Biased BBC website could continue should enemies of free speech succeed .

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579 Responses to Midweek Thread 13 January 2021

  1. Scroblene says:

    Not again!

    Morning All!

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    • StewGreen says:

      Catch-up links to last posts on previous thread
      page 4 (started Tuesday lunchtime) has a few good new posts/videos at the bottom of the page
      We just overspilled onto page 5

      – White media managers seem to have this habit of tickboxing to get BAME faces on air. That is not fair, and it’s also patronising to BAME people and harms race relations.
      Tuesday on Radio4 was well over the top also Channel4
      … I accidentally listed them on new page of the Weekend thread

      Tip : I’ve just realised that with Android’s clipboard button on the keyboard I don’t have keep flipping between pages, I can pick up 4,5, 6 links and then flip back once to post them here.

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  2. Guest Who says:

    Stew helpfully posting a series of links to tv shows I doubt appeal much outside the diversity departments.

    ****

    U.S. Box Office Plummets 80%, Global Revenue Drops 71% in 2020 Amid Pandemic

    North American box office revenues in 2020 hit a 40-year low.

    ***

    They can always blame Covid for the ratings.

    Though Mandingo Does D’Arcy seems popular with the ladies. And some of the wimmin too. A broadsheet cougar got moist at the thought of him as Oo, seven.

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  3. Guest Who says:

    Bumper Moaning Emole Today from Vicky.

    ***

    Donald Trump and Joe Biden during the final TV debate

    A number of senior figures within Donald Trump’s own party now say they’re prepared to support the plan to impeach him for a second time. Opposition Democrats are likely to push for a vote later to charge Mr Trump with inciting insurrection, specifically last week’s violent attack on Congress. His fellow Republicans are increasingly breaking ranks to join them, including Liz Cheney, daughter of former Vice-President Dick Cheney. She said Mr Trump had “summoned this mob, assembled the mob, lit the flame of this attack”.

    Mr Trump is due to leave office anyway next week, so why bother trying to remove him before that, via the impeachment process? Well, if he is impeached, he would have a trial in the Senate to determine his guilt, and conviction would officially hold him accountable for what happened at the Capitol. So far he’s refused to accept any responsibility.

    Secondly, if he’s convicted, Democrats could also hold a vote to block him from ever running for office again. The president has indicated he plans to campaign in 2024, and our North America reporter Anthony Zurcher says some Republicans may feel that bringing about a clean break with the Trump era now is the best thing for their political futures. Read more on the whole process.

    ***

    Any Republican paying heed to Lurch deserves what they get.

    ***
    A catering company accused of providing children from low-income families with inadequate food parcels has apologised. Footballer Marcus Rashford drew attention to a photo of a small food hamper sent out to children who would normally receive free school meals in England. Chartwells said it was “very sorry the quantity fell short”. Children’s minister Vicky Ford said caterers must urgently improve the quality of provision.

    The row could come up when Education Secretary Gavin Williamson faces MPs’ questioning later. Our education correspondent Sean Coughlan looks closely at Mr Williamson – a man whose political obituary has been written so many times he must sometimes feel like the walking dead

    ***

    Any mention of Marcus’ own outfit?

    One is sure if the BBC is involved and a Tory is in their sights, a row will ‘come up’.

    Interesting editorialising in that last para.

    Paul Mason freelancing?

    ***

    Mental health discrimination

    Black people are more than four times as likely to be detained – or sectioned – under the Mental Health Act relative to population. Now plans have been announced to overhaul the system with the aim of making it less discriminatory. Many of the recommendations focus on ensuring patients are seen as individuals and cultural differences are better understood. The reforms will also ensure autism or a learning disability cannot be a reason for detaining someone. Mental health charity Mind said the changes “cannot come soon enough”. Ashley and Raf shared their experiences of being detained under the act with the BBC.

    ***
    Now how did Ashley and Raf come to share with the BBC?

    They don’t sound Norwegian.

    Maybe June can get them editorial gigs as most in the bbc seem nuts.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      When I saw the Mental Health heading I thought perhaps it was an article about the pressures shops are putting on those who cannot wear masks for mental health reasons.

      Then I remembered this was a BBC email.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Mental Health Day in the NHS too.

        Well, it is when you see the exact same story running across BBC, Indy…

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        • Guest Who says:

          Seems bolting that trust thing on at the end is not proving enough any more, if it ever was.

          ***
          BBC News

          “This is not fake news.”

          We take a look inside Croydon Hospital in south London as staff face intense pressure with the increasing number of Covid patients.

          bbc.in/2LukJxD

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  4. digg says:

    BBC morning news in our area say that the Government are calling for more doctors to come forward in the vaccine efforts.

    Silly me I always thought we paid our doctors well through taxes to do their job and help heal and protect the population. I never realised that actually working was optional.

    I suppose this view is seen as old school, and we will see increasing pick and choose attitudes from our medical profession as increasingly their numbers are swelled by the younger self-entitled me-me generation.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Quite a few of faith have sussed being activist Labour MP gobs can be lucrative as a third job on BBC shows.

      Hard to carry off complaining as well about workload and remuneration but hypocrisy and shamelessness seem key skill sets.

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    • G says:

      ‘Dear Priti,

      Shortage of Medical Staff.

      Might I respectfully suggest that, during your next conversation with your French counterpart in the Government, you ask if they could send over more rubber boats containing doctors and engineers to fill a shortage we are currently experiencing.’

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    • Sluff says:

      It appears that doctors get £12.58 extra each time a covid vaccine is given in their practice. An additional £10 is paid if a care home resident or worker is vaccinated.

      https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/covid-19/vaccines/covid-19-vaccination-programme

      I had a flu jab yesterday at the local GP and to be fair it was well managed. It took 5 minutes and was given by a nurse. So by analogy that would equate to over £150 per hour extra on top of normal pay and income per nurse.

      Said nurse said they have just got through 2000 covid vaccinations in about four days. That’s an extra £25,000 income per week.

      Nice to see our NHS heroes doing their bit for the country.j

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      • JamesArthur says:

        Sluff
        I was chatting to a pharmacist friend and he told me that many of the local GPs don’t want to do it…not enough money…apparantly they often don’t do things for this reason and the Pharmacists pick it up.
        The public forget ot dont know that most GPs are private businesses ….but get a NGS pension…vast majority work PT…

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        • Banania says:

          How much do doctors charge for signing a passport form these days. It was often £40 years ago so I suppose the poor things have had to put it up. And the Vicar would do it for nothing.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      It is one of the great ironies of the NHS that GP’s and their practises are PRIVATE and are not NHS employees. This dates back to the formation of the NHS when it ‘founder’ Aneurin Bevan found that the GP refused to be nationalised and insisted on remaining private even though in most cases all of their patients are NHS and not private. Bevan said that he had to ‘stuff the doctors mouths with gold ‘ to get them to agree to the formation of the NHS. The gold stuffing business has continued ever since and the doctors union the BMA has exploited the national Achilles Heel of the NHS ruthlessly to ensure it has the highest paid members anywhere in Europe.
      Consequently they insist on being extra for anything that isn’t run of the mill NHS work. Being private they can find many ways to supplement their already enormous salaries, pharmacies, clinics , flu jabs etc etc. They earn so much that many of them only need to work part time. My neighbour , who is in his fifties, works three days a week and rakes in a fortune and has volunteered to give a few extra hours of his time to administer the vaccine, at a cost of course! One of the great ironies is that if doctors were paid substantially less money we would have greater availability of doctors because they would have to work five day weeks rather than part time! I know this is true because GPs have told me so.

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  5. Guest Who says:

    Greta of course appeals to young kids.

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2021/01/bbc-twos-much-praised-lockdown.html

    Especially boys.

    Next, ‘Nish, the early years that forged a comedic genius’

    Surely set to be commissioned next by Mojito Bakyar?

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  6. digg says:

    Fedup, re your intro to this thread. I can heartily recommend getting off google search and installing duckduckgogo on all devices. I did this yesterday on all my desktops, iPad and iPhone and it all works great with searches coming back with untampered results. Plus DDGG does NO tracking so you are not being spied on.

    As for social, the lefties would have you believe that gab.com and Parler (offline at present) are dangerous right wing outfits. Don’t believe it, sure as with any truly open platform there will be some bad eggs but the dire warnings from google and Twitter etc are all part of the social engineering project they are trying to promote.

    The only way to rein in these out of control Marxists is to starve their cash flow, if you don’t use them their pay per clicks slump.

    They are huge so making a difference will be an uphill task but if we don’t try it we will go silently into the night.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      I installed the DDG browser on my iPhone. Ironically, it failed the security check when I tried to get on Gab this morning.

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      • digg says:

        Hi Roland, a couple of pointers there, 1. Gab is very overloaded right now so it may be an issue there but possibly your iPhone settings are allowing Apple to decide if a site is what they call “Safe”.

        As it is now clear that Apple are in bed with Google and Twitter ideologically and spookily all my Apple devices had an update in the last 24 hours so don’t rule out censorship being installed on your iPhone by Apple!

        The iPhone has a setting for fraud warnings so this might be activated. Of course Apple (Twitter) decide if a site is fraudulent!

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        • Guest Who says:

          By sheer coincidence, this just arrived on my iPad…

          “Help strengthen the security of your Google Account – Google can use this email address to make sure it’s really you if you get locked out of your account or if we notice suspicious activity.“

          I have tended to use Google for retail surfing as their localisation is better than DDG, but things are spiralling badly for my trust levels.

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        • Roland Deschain says:

          Thanks – this was actually a Gab security check which I think they’ve put in place to avoid attacks. I could get on via the Safari browser, though Gab is so slow as to be unusable at present.

          As for iPhone updates – I turned these off last year as I don’t trust them not to be adding extra surveillance to it. Just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get me.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            RD, “Just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get me.”

            🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Agree been with duckduck for ages…you can ditch google for most things

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    • Deborah says:

      Digg, I cannot remember whether it was Parker or Gab that Guido F in his podcast said it was full of things he didn’t want his site associated with. (No rude comments about Guido, please]. I have never Facebooked and I think a couple of weeks ago I did manage to see something on Parler but maybe both sites will now be packed with more normal stuff as the more main stream platforms ban right thinking people.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      d
      I have logged in here today using Firefox.
      Using Microsoft Edge I was given a curt “Enable Cookies”.

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  7. Fedup2 says:

    Digg
    Thank you – I’ve used Duck for quite a while but find it inferior to google . It is still my personal preference . The google search engine put this site back on page one last night and I’m monitoring that – when not having to engage in other site ‘matters ‘…..
    ….. as for contingencies for the continuation of the fight against the Far Left Biased BBC ( if this site was removed ) I’ve got an idea but I want to see if it is shared by other users ….
    I’ve noticed that Parler is harder to get into and is ‘down ‘ a bit more than it was – however I am not a great enthusiast for social media because of the level of aggression – which until recently – has been absent from this site and one of the many reasons I stick with it .

    Elsewhere today – the Daily Telegraph reports rationing of vaccine by region – the line about a GP in the cotswolds having run out of ‘over 70s ‘ to vaccinate sums things up .

    It’s all very well targeting by age – but in high density London boroughs hard hit by covid perhaps the real priority to save lives is there ( where I live ) …. Redbridge – Barking – Newham – have the highest numbers in thr country …..

    By the way I don’t live in any of these 3 hell holes thank god – but I am nearby and know them very well…

    I still think the government needs to up its game on the roll out – tell us how much vaccine is being produced and delivered each day as well as numbers vaccinated each day – at a regional level .

    For the personal sacrifices people are making to lock down this is the least we should expect – as well as a more professional daily briefing without the frankly poor ‘minister for strong statements – Priti Patel …

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  8. digg says:

    Hi FedUp

    I agree that generally DDGG results are a bit more sparse that Google’s but I think the solution is to reserve DDGG to search for anything that Google might be tracking with bad intent.

    So if you are searching for some 9mm bolts, use Google by all means but if you are searching for this site for instance use DDGG, at least that way Google are not able to track everything you input and monitor every key press and your use of this site etc.

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    • JimS says:

      I would search for M9 bolts, the worst that can happen then is adverts for hotels in East Scotland pop up rather than an armed response unit!

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Moderator, flag this BBBC user.
      Standard Metric bolt sizes are … 5, 6, 8, 10, 12 …

      It’s probably some irate sylvan harridan imposter.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Last chance
        But don’t you know that M9 bolts is a code word for the military psycho ware fare outfit shaping everyone’s thinking and responses . ?Tom Clancy told me so it must be true .

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  9. Fedup2 says:

    Digg
    Yes I do that thanks – I wonder if daily clearing of those bits of software added by sites ( cookies ? ) helps ? As site moderator I guess Google knows plenty about me …..

    … even those last 7 words trigger some al gore rhythm in google hq to trigger ….

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Fedup
      Download ccleaner ..the free version..but be careful not to click on any of the add ons…
      You can clean away cookies after every search

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      • Up2snuff says:

        JA, what about using a private browser? Mozilla offer that option with Firefox. When the bog standard browser comes up just select the ‘Menu Options’ click and go for ‘New Private Window’ – click once more.

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        • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

          Mozilla is extremely woke. Avoid at all costs.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Too late for me, Tr, have it on multiple devices. Eeeeek.

            That said, I can get by if it is woke words, it’s the woke photos that becomes tedious after a while. All that Prominent Positioning of Persons.

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  10. AsISeeIt says:

    ‘Depression and anxiety rife among ICU medics’ (Guardian) – how do we know? They’ve been doing a survey of course. Another one, you ask, how do they find the time?

    But fear not, during this present lockdown inducing surge in the mutant virus, as hospitals are overwhelmed, ‘709 doctors, nurses and other clinical roles across six NHS hospitals in England’ have not been wasting their time filling in forms. Certainly not.

    This survey was done back in June 2020 ‘after the height of the first wave’ – one is inclined to comment if you don’t like the heat get out of the kitchen. But then one recalls that last June would have been about the time we first heard murmurs of how’s about NHS payrises all round…

    ‘Vaccine drive for UK failing to hit target’ complains the ‘i’

    This is the problem with a nationalised health service – I don’t just mean the slovenly bureaucracy, the profiteering crony corporate contracts and the bolshie entitled staff – I mean that ministers will be seen as directly responsible for every failing.

    Can the health minister really answer for Mrs Biggins of Huddersfield’s five month wait for her hip operation anymore than the trade and industry minister ought to answer for my five week wait for an Amazon delivery? There’s a lot to unpack there (when my metaphorical parcel does eventually arrive) so have a think about it.

    Meanwhile, hate him or loath him, Boris can only do as much as the the unreformed NHS will allow: ‘Johnson clashed with NHS chiefs over accelerating vaccines rollout’ (FT)

    So I think we can agree the NHS is in the Premier League of political footballs. A brave and ultimately sensible government would do well to kick it into touch.

    Which leads us nicely on to matters Rashford. I hope you’ve all been contemplating the contents of the free school meals food parcel as pictured in several of this morning’s dailies?

    ‘Is this lunch for five days?’ asks the Guardian. How could it be, where’s the frittata? Apparently one mother estimated the contents to the value of £5.22 – with budgeting skills to that level of accuracy one wonders how come she can’t nurish her own offspring? But that’s not the question here.

    ‘Profit from poverty firms accused of taking cash to feed kids… and delivering paltry food parcels’ (Daily Mirror). The Labour-leaning tabloid puts in a lower bid of £3 to be value of the free school meal. That’s socialist economics for you. ‘Labour’s Angela Rayner said: “Into whose pockets is the money for free school meals going?”‘ – well quite. What I’d like to know is into whose pockets is an awful lot of our tax money going?

    By the way: ‘Dodds to signal shift from Corbyn’s hard left agenda’ – so lumbers the FT’s cumbersome headline. But don’t expect Labourites to rein in the demands for ever more welfare any time soon.

    Seems Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York (remember her, the ginger one?) has put pen to paper. Unlike most celeb wannabe authors this isn’t a kid’s book: ‘Duchess launches new career as a romantic novelist’ (‘i’) ‘Sylvie Krin’ quips the 65p newspaper of the year in allusion to a Private Eye gag old enough to be due a vaccination this week.

    The Mirror turns up the temperature a little: ‘Fergie’s bodice ripping yarns’ – she probably knows her way around a fourposter, having been hitched to Randy Andy and as I recall put in a bit of topless toe-sucking in the past.

    As luck would have it: ‘Queen’s cousin in sex assult at Royal castle’ (Daily Mail) this is Simon Bowes-Lyon said to be “a rude, mean, bad and horrible person” having groped a woman who rejected his advances in a ‘drink-fuelled assult’ at Glamis Castle – that’s not how the story is supposed to unfold (allegedly).

    ‘A hard Brexit’ explains the Daily Star: ‘Viagra sales up 40% as Brits get the EU willies. Fears of a hard Brexit led to a massive rise in Viagra sales…’

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  11. Guest Who says:

    As with 38 BeeGees, Compass, etc, here, Sierra Club appear to assume taking an interest means you are on board or suckered by hyperbole and omission.

    One presumes Lurch is a fan.

    ***
    | Sierra Magazine |
    Democracy Under Siege

    Last Wednesday, hundreds of pro-Trump insurgents and white supremacists, many of them armed, stormed the US Capitol in a bid to halt the peaceful transition of power. The insurgent violence was terrifying,

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    • digg says:

      Let me correct the last two lines…

      “Last Wednesday thousands of unarmed pro-Trump supporters showed up at US Capitol to show solidarity with Trump over the illegal election results. The Police shot dead a lady amongst the Trump supporters, the Trump supporters eventually left peacefully”

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      • Up2snuff says:

        digg, I think one guy, among all the demonstrators, was wearing a Viking helmet with horns on it. The Socialist media in the US are not very bright and they must have thought that the right to wear horns was the equivalent of the right to bear arms. They assumed that that particular demonstrator must have had a Viking sword tucked down his trousers or wherever Vikings kept their swords.

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        • Roland Deschain says:

          The more I read about him, the less likely it seems that he’s a Trump supporter.

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      • maxincony says:

        digg,

        Shame about the policeman dragged outside and beaten… but never mind, after they’d finished hitting him they; eventually left peacefully.

        https://eu.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2021/01/12/us-capitol-riot-police-officer-dragged-down-steps-and-beaten/6632567002/

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        • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

          None of them were NRA members of course.

          I keep being accused of being your doppelgänger, Max. What are we going to do about it?

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          • maxincony says:

            I’m not to sure, WildWoman… It’s a long shot but do you have access to a pipe organ by any chance?

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        • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

          None of them were NRA members of course.

          I keep being accused of being your doppelgänger, Max. What are we going to do about it?

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  12. Guest Who says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55624630?

    Silencing Trump: How ‘big tech’ is taking Trumpism offline

    Tidy? Not.

    Ably abetted by an anything but impartial propaganda backed by censorship broadcaster.

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    • digg says:

      Trying to ban and silence so many people will not work in the end. The backlash will be enormous.

      The tech Companies are trying to cover the arses of the crooks in the USA who fiddled the results by squashing any negative feedback.

      The truth will come out and I wouldn’t want to be an elected Dem when it does.

      Plus I’d like to see how Biden manages to run the Country when so many millions of it’s citizens see him as hapless pawn at best and a criminal at worst.

      I predict the Dems will stagger from one crisis to the next trying to put out fires and eventually it will all cave in.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        digg, the other problem is that the Democrats in the country at large and in Washington (perhaps NYC, too) have largely had a focus for their anger and hatred for five years.

        Now ‘their boy’ is installed in Washington one week from today, what will they hate? What will they be angry about? They will not be able to direct their hatred and anger at the White House.

        Or will they?

        There are now a lot of rumbling volcanoes in the USA that have to stop rumbling. Those rumbling volcanoes also have guns like the Republicans are supposed to have.

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      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        d “.. a criminal at worst.”
        A Traitor, as are all Communists.
        Biden was born stupid and is now also senile.
        No better time than now for the US Civil War II.

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Seems the supermarket cannot deliver my chorizo… doubtless due to Brexit.

    No problem. A nice variety on offer online domestically, Tx to DDG.

    Or making my own… a skill beyond many on the Rashford Diet.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/homemade_chorizo_98579

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    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      Back to boiled beef and carrots, hey! None of that messed-about foreign muck any more.

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  14. The WestWyvern says:

    Anyone catch the R4 Toady Buisness interview earlier. I think it was around 06.25 but I was dozing still.

    It involved the Buisness Beeboid (how many do they have?) and the CBI chair for NI.

    She was pushed on shortages in shops in NI, the impact of deliveries because of post Brexit form filling and General incompetence that has led to a number of retailers apparently writing a stiffly worded letter to HMG.

    In reply she answered fairly, did not blame Brexit, countered the shortages by saying there was just slightly less choice, but shelves were not empty. There will be some issues with form filling, it is taking time, but not unforeseen in the first weeks of Jan and the impacts were also down to the effects of covid in the supply chain.

    It was a refreshing counter and reasoned arguments to the usual AntiBeeb bullshit and of course didn’t fit the narrative so quickly moved on.

    Defundin21′

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  15. Fedup2 says:

    I’ve now put on my gloves and face mask and gone onto Twitter to block my daily quota of advertisers – and found that – of all people – a former health Secretary and Remainer – has published a map of covid vaccination numbers across Europe -if anyone wants to see it – it is Jeremy Hunts Twitter feed and would be a good morale boost on here’s.

    You won’t see the map on the BBC

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    • Tabs says:

      Imagine if Europe was ahead of the UK in vaccinations. The BBC would be banging on, 24 hours a day, about Brexit being a disaster but they stay silent when there is any positive news created by Brexit.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      By the way – can you guess the reaction to the map showing how far ahead the UK is in vaccination compared to the EU ?
      Is it
      A – it’s not a race
      B – if it was a map of deaths it would be different
      C – UK started earlier

      D – all of the above .

      Some of the people on Twitter really should have a think about themselves – although thinking and reacting don’t seem to equate …

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      • StewGreen says:

        I tend to think of that map as PR
        The vaccination rate across the whole of Europe including the UK is basically nothing.
        At about 2.5 million the UK has given 3% one jab out of 2
        So 97% left to do for first jabs alone

        Only Israel has notable levels.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Stew – Chuck me a bone here – I / we have been groomed to welcome any kind of morale boost – let a lie lie ….
          I was hoping that Priti was going to do another hopeless briefing tonight where she trots of in a huff at the end like Tuesday night ….( I think she was annoyed because she forgot her brief or her spad dropped her in it )

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        • Jagman84 says:

          One in five have said that they will not be volunteering to take a vaccine so their task will be made slightly easier. If they stick to asking the same individuals who are offered ‘Flu jabs, the task would be easier still and probably just as effective in limiting the effects of the virus.

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  16. G says:

    It’s difficult if not impossible to measure or understand the total hatred, contempt and revulsion the US Communists have for > 80 million of the population. The tokenism of the current Impeachment of DJT is breath-taking even though we know it won’t work practically.

    I can only imagine being one of the very unhappy 80 million who voted to clear the elite swamp and suffered overt fraud as a result. It appears there’s nothing, no action that can be taken to remedy the massive injustice. But, there’s two actions that ultimately remain:
    The people directly challenge the elite or, the military instigate a coup. As the population develop more resentment, I guess the military will be under increasing pressure directly or indirectly to do something after all, all the laws and Constitution are being ignored and trashed by the day.
    The abuse by the Communists cannot go on, surely.

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  17. theisland says:

    I do not want the vaccination – despite being of a certain age.
    My main reason is entirely non-scientific. It do not trust the motives, moral fibre or judgement of those pushing me to have it.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I will have your one then

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      • AndyDozefeet says:

        You can have mine too Fed.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          I’m happy to have one but by the time my group come up, I will need to talk to my GP about which one to have and what the amended advice leaflets packed with the vaccine say.

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          • digg says:

            I wonder if the Government will start to publish a count of deaths of people who have had the vaccine compared to those who have not in their stats?

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  18. StewGreen says:

    ‘Quit with all the kooky conspiracy theories, like that stuff about Italy
    … it’s hurting the President, and it looks like Grifting’
    That’s Gorka’s video
    Talking about Lin Wood, that general and Simon Parkes etc.
    He’s got 2 other videos where he calls callers out on this.

    I recommend looking at the list of Gorka’s other recent videos

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  19. Jeff says:

    In order to keep both my sanity and temper under control I never listen to Toady on Radio 4 these days. Haven’t done for years.
    I’ve moved across to Talk Radio (the fastest growing radio station on the planet) as they like to constantly remind us. However, this morning there was an interview with Julia Hartley-Brewer and Ian Duncan Smith which rather chilled me…

    For a bit of variety (ahem) they were discussing covid. Both have been sceptical as to the advantages of endless lockdowns and concerned for our economic future. Both were enthusiastic about the vaccines…so far so good…

    It was when Julia asked Duncan Smith about the future that really froze me to the spot. He responded saying “Hopefully we’ll get back to some sort of normality…”

    They weren’t chatting about the near future, this was about when we’re through these dark times. So, just what does he mean “some sort of normality.”?

    Will we be expected to wear face masks ad-infinitum? Is social distancing here to stay? Can we expect plod to interview us if we’re sitting alone on a bench by the beach? It was telling that Hartley-Brewer didn’t jump on this and force him to answer.

    A wise man once said that when you willingly give up any part of your freedom you’ll never get it back.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      jeff, I don’t want to worry you but all sorts of people now have ‘skin in the game’, not least the NHS and SAGE and especially Whitty and Vallance. Every winter for the last ten years (ever since we had a Government that was part or wholly Conservative Party – what an amazing coincidence!) the NHS has been under pressure and at the point of collapse.

      “Give us more money.” and the Chancellor of the Exchequer has duly obliged and handed over ever more cash from the taxpayer. The NHS has been incompetently run and incompetently re-organised for decades. That will not stop them. The banking crash did not stop them. Covid and all its fellow coronaviruses – and there are plenty – actually advantage the NHS and they can hold the country to ransom every winter. Also, the Labour leader after Gordon Brown, the one who took over ten years ago – another coincidence – his headstone is propped up in a corner somewhere, now what was his name?, he ‘weaponised the NHS’ to try and win back power for the Labour Party. Yet another amazing coincidence! Three together, all at once, just like London buses, incredible.

      That is until a very strong and determined Government with a substantial majority in Parliament says “Stop!” “No more.” this will probably run and run for ever, aided and abetted by the MSM, especially the BBC.

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  20. Fedup2 says:

    Jeff – having listened to my MP ( IDS) I think he was being a bit loose with the phrasing – something which got him into trouble when he was – cough – conservative leader .

    Being a pessimist – I’ve always assumed something far worse than covid would come along – and still could .

    Personally – I’ve replaced listening to the radio with streaming – Gregorian chant at the moment . No woke there .

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    • Jeff says:

      I’m going to have to try some Gregorian chanting!

      There are some good things on Talk Radio. They have Peter Hitchins on Monday and that long haired Scottish historian pops up today. I thought, being a BBC stalwart, he’d be a right PC pain in the arse, but he’s not, he’s very sound. He’s as concerned about our disappearing liberties as I am. It can only be a matter of time until he gets banned.

      Anyway, let’s find some chanting…

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    • Banania says:

      Ah, a fellow enthusiast. Do you like it accompanied, as the monks of Clairvaux do?

         3 likes

  21. G.W.F. says:

    The man who led the attempted coup that scared America into impeaching its president.

       25 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      BBC News

      Top Republican and long-time Trump ally Mitch McConnell is believed to be pleased about the president’s possible impeachment. US historian Prof Heather Cox Richardson tells BBC Newsnight why.

      https://bbc.in/38FDtTy

      ***

      The BBC are also trying to make out Cindy McCain was a Trump supporter. Heather seems just the kind of Cox Prof the BBC would like.

         12 likes

      • G says:

        GW,
        McConnell is no friend of DJT. And neither is the other one, Kevin McCarthy (both Irish decent…..Hmm….). There was a clip on YT of speeches in the House where McCarthy – presumed to be a staunch supporter of DJT – sat alongside the speaker. Following the latter’s conclusion, there was a round of standing and clapping. McCarthy could be seen, not knowing what to do with his hands but standing to join the rest. An unguarded body language moment.

           14 likes

    • JimS says:

      “… sound actually proceedes electromagnetic activity…”

      C’mon man! Thunder makes the lightning!

         5 likes

    • maxincony says:

      G.W.F.

      The man who led the attempted coup that scared America into impeaching its president.

      I’ve not heard one single person claim than Jake Angeli “led the attempted coup”. Kassam says stupid things for cash; you do it for free.

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  22. StewGreen says:

    I wonder if the vaccination programme will unearth proof that some 90 year olds are not alive
    even though their families have been claiming their benefits.

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  23. JohnC says:

    I see the BBC are stating the Oxford vaccine is 70% effective in their attempt to discredit the Chinese vaccine.
    Fake news of course : it has only been approved for the 60% dose. The higher figure (found by accident due to a staggering feat of incompetence considering the whole World was waiting) is considered unreliable due to the sample set.
    Perhaps their ‘Reality Check Team’ could look into the report.
    The report also has one of their special, totally one-sided, highly edited panorama-style videos to make you think how they want you to think – right down to the haunting piano music they like to use to create an uncomfortable atmosphere.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-55642648
    I’m not saying I trust the Chinese vaccine : I’m saying the BBC are the last people I trust to tell me about it.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      John, is the Chinese vaccine likely to be offered here?

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      • JohnC says:

        No chance I would say. People will be scared stiff to have it once the BBC have finished.
        Better we all have the Oxford vaccine : not the best, but a triumph for women in charge (as long as you don’t mention the cock-ups or how much time and money they have absorbed over the years while it was a cushy little gravy train for academics who had nothing to actually deliver).

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  24. Doobster78 says:

    Mrs Doobster78 has got This Morning on in t’other room and I caught a bit.

    They have a celebrity chef on taking questions from the public and the phone in is entitled “how to feed your family for less”

    Obviously Phil and Holly taking the far left line that it’s the government s responsibility to feed you .

    Food is dirt cheap. Aldi, Lidl , any supermarkets have value ranges for no money at all.

    Why not try going just before they shut for really cheap stuff??

    How thick are these people ????? I mean come on !!! FFS

    I am beginning to think that anyone who either rings in to this programme or moans about the government free boxes should have their kids taken off them !!!!!

    Too effing thick and idol to be responsible parents !!!!!!!!!

    Why do we have to pander to these thickos ???

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    • StewGreen says:

      It’s gaslighting again
      There is this real world we see with our own eyes, where food is really cheap
      and even cheaper if you know the sell-by-date clearance times.
      And there is this fictious media world where people can’t get by on less than £20/day for food.

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      • Guest Who says:

        There’s a viral tweet going around from poster Warren Crosby, @TheViralCyrix

        I was wondering if it was a spoof?

        Maybe Marianna could check and BS could get him in?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Stew, that ‘food is cheap’ is a media myth and one that has been heavily promoted by the BBC for some considerable time. Those of us with memories know how expensive food really is now.

        However, since that obesity and sugar thing got going, the supermarkets have been running veg and fruit loss-leaders for PR purposes (in reality the losses are often borne by the farmers) at the front of stores. I cannot remember who was the first to do it but Asda and Tesco both do, Morrisons, Sainsbury and M&S currently do not.

        Maybe Tesco and Asda started at the same time? Aldi and Lidl have sort of followed their example but don’t resort to the ‘front of store – opposite the entrance’ placement that Asda and Tesco do. They just have weekly ‘specials’ eg. half price large flat mushrooms or brussels sprouts at 2/3rds off, again probably squeezing their suppliers.

        If you are willing to buy and cook seasonal food it is possible to eat cheaply. However if you have fallen for various MSM inducements, then food is quite expensive to very expensive. Laughingly, the BBC even do articles now on the web-site on how to save money by not having the metro-libbers diet of pancakes topped by raspberries and blueberries and ‘a grated choc topped cappucino coffee to go’ collected on the way to work.

        Earlier today the BBC asked me if I could see five meals for a week in the second pic here, photo supplied by Roadside Mum. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55641740 . My answer: “Yes, if it is for one child.”

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    • G says:

      Doob,
      I won’t believe it until I see people rummaging through the dustbins.

         13 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      Doob
      Me and Mrs have same conversation..She cooked a chilli that lasted 2 adults 3 days…less than a £5…and included potatoes.
      Basically yes they are thick lazy and fodder for BBC to berate Tories…
      They could report 98% of those getting free food are happy…but do they…nah

      BBC defund 21

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  25. G says:

    I’m anxious to keep my YT exposure to a bare minimum so have decided to prioritise Bitchute on my Smart TV which only, by default, presents YT, Amazon and all the rest of the like criminal fraternity. I have not yet paid any real attention to this potentially technological feat (for me). Has anybody else successfully done this. I can open up Bitchute but that’s as far as it goes. Can’t open the individual offerings.

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    • StewGreen says:

      A load of people here last week said there was a really good Trump speech the other day.
      Can anyone remind us what he said.

      I understand he’s just been banned from YouTube ..the least censorious of the Censorious lefty gang.

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      • JohnC says:

        He’s been banned from everywhere because if you don’t agree with his politics, you can vaguely infer he incited people to riot by ignoring certain things he said then linking other things with other things he said to come up with something which he never actually said and claiming he said it.
        No need to worry about the detail : the MSM will not question you.

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        • Roland Deschain says:

          What is truly jaw-dropping is that no one in our media sees a problem with this. One doesn’t need to be a fan of Trump to realise the slippery slope this represents, surely? A few, such as George Galloway of all people, get it, but not the media.

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          • JohnC says:

            The other which I am noticing is how people (including Pelosi) are saying they want to see Trump impeached so they can remove him from politics.
            This is the most outrageous thing I have ever heard. It’s like fitting someone up for murder because you don’t like them and want rid of them. Yet nobody in the media is batting an eyelid.
            Journalists truly are the most digusting hypocrites. They are supposed to be a check-and-balance on politicians but they are every bit as sleezy and dishonest.

               37 likes

          • Garry Lavin says:

            Quite so. It’s all a bit Leninist for me.

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      • Banania says:

        They have banned the very speech which disproves their accusation of incitement. If he had been guilty of it, they would have had the speech on constantly rather than banning it.

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  26. taffman says:

    Al Beeb is working hard to overturn our democratic vote for Independence from The EU……………..
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/politics/uk_leaves_the_eu

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  27. StewGreen says:

    Re the Rashford food hampers that go to free school meal kids
    ..that outrageously don’t include scratchcards and lager.

    School canteens would already have food stock ready for the January week
    And many schools are still open for key workers.
    It’s said that the established supply chains like egg farmers are all screwed up as schools cancel orders
    Why has the gov started this completely new supply chain ?
    Why would they not just distribute school kitchen food to school meals families ?

    If school kitchens are still working then they could do takeaways/packedLunches for the FSM kids
    instead of wasting taxpayers money or wasting food.

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    • maxincony says:

      Didn’t take long did it for; *Noble British workers having their livelihoods ruined by lockdown*.

      To transform into; *Unemployed scum scrounging money for scratchcards and lager*.

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  28. s.trubble says:

    See Brexit fallout has appointed Adam Flemimg to R4…he was introduced this morning as a political editor or somesuch…

    His first topic was about Marcus Rashfords half eaten carrots …a delicious irony …hopefully to be followed with more examples of apples with a bite out them and empty pies…..

    the clock is ticking Adam!!

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  29. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Twitter suspends 70,000 accounts linked to QAnon

    QAnon is a conspiracy claiming that Donald Trump is waging a war against Satan-worshipping paedophiles in politics, business and the media.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-55638558?

    ****
    Is this accurate?

    Or what the BBC now serves as its version of news?

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    • JohnC says:

      Clearly the lists have been made. Now they are starting the actions.
      Not too far from arrests and concentration camps now. They would love to do it immediately, but you need to raise the temperature slowly to boil the frog.
      You have to give the Left due credit : they are consistent.

         29 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      Are we meant to disapprove of waging a war against Satan-worshipping paedophiles in politics? It seems to me a reasonable stance to take.

         20 likes

  30. Guest Who says:

    This is a story flagged as ‘top’ on the British National Broadcaster.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-55640335

    Gavin Williamson: How has he survived?

    ***

    The same way as Sean and colleagues… civil service systems and professional courtesies.

    Oh, and in the case of the BBC, exemption from anything.

    Even outrageous subbing. Labour says. Or not.

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  31. G.W.F. says:

    Trump supporters are being warned of this trap. Phony call to action in support of the Second, so that they can make arrests. It is getting bad.
    Expect Johnson’s Quisling Government to tackle conservatives here. Our site is under threat.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/do_not_fall_for_a_plot_to_entrap_second_amendment_supporters.html?fbclid=IwAR0tFKbdZDsp5i_rF-mP87hGhZ7_S67EW0DoSb0bX7X8tY0enEFeUmz6Zok

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  32. Philip_2 says:

    Its hard to believe that we are NOT in a coordinated Eugenics program. The media has changed almost overnight (since last March, I reckon on a prompt) from being skeptical to approving of (drastic) ‘experiments’ that are exceptionally absurd in modern times. Almost all claims of ‘progressive’ liberal thinking is forwarded by the BBC as some kind of improved ‘science’ (on lock down – supporting ‘man-made climate change’ by not moving). Using whatever means necessary, to enable ‘rapid and permanent population control’ across the planet by a little known policy that every politician knows about but are sworn to never reveal and block the media from asking. They need fools like ‘Ferguson’, as being totally incompetent and untrustworthy with his dire predictions, so is a perfect fit for this kind of undercover operation. He can be easily discredited later. He also cannot be questioned on ‘validity’ of his claims, nor anyone on SAGE for rolling out a ‘cure’, even though in history we have never overcome the seasonal common cold, flu, pneumonia and several ‘variants’ that overwhelms the NHS each year like Cancer or even Sepsis, are far more serious.

    Abolishing the only freedom that has kept world peace from tyranny in most countries is ‘democracy’ which is being abolished by stealth. When Tony Blair stated that ‘democracy is now dead’ he meant it (as PM at the time), he foresaw this world wide scale epidemic, may be necessary. he signed us up UN agenda 21 and so its been updated to regular ‘updates’ based on sustainability of the program. We are still in that program, we never left. But it can never be made public, hence the media may loose their OFCOM license if they mention it.
    UN Agenda exists: Its just never discussed as an unspoken rule:
    Media blackout on the subject.
    http://www.searchforthetruth.co.uk/agenda-21
    https://www.postsustainabilityinstitute.org/which-nations-signed-agenda-21.html
    Blair was an internationalist Socialist. He knew this day would come.

    Its easy to blame China, for a virus that could have been started anywhere. And don’t forget the new Kent and South African variant (surprise, surprise! – Lurking in your back yard). No doubt another will be found shortly in Scotland, Ireland or Wales, if things start to flag, as they will (further lock downs). This will be repeated across the western nations, until the UN say so – or Biden says STOP!
    World government compliance, assured.

    China has a place in this drastic action policy. It has that edge of compliance.The left are free to take advantage.
    ‘Drastic action’ by tin pot tiny Council politics al over the country) (Examples by the Mayor of London to cover the roads with bollards and traffic restrictions to ‘cut down on emissions’ on (chiefly) London train and bus, (Diesel) along with all the Lorries delivering food and parcels for the capital. The target is removing all private cars by 40%, raise the price for travel. Electric Cars are also ‘unsustainable’ (when you consider the toxic materials they consume in manufacture and the cost to produce when ‘rare’ earth metals are imported and distributed only from China). Where else?

    China is not part of the CO2 scam called Climate change, but the same ‘world leaders’ are working on taxing the emissions of any country that competes with ‘China’. Only China can produce CO2. Its nonsense, of course as CO2 is not ‘toxic’ or a ‘danger-to-the-planet’ but (unchallenged) on BBC TV and Radio by the ill-informed children and broadcast to children to recant, report non believers, and make haste, the end of the world is nigh..

    The virus is the door. Its not going away, it will be around for good. It will be added to all the ‘other’ viruses out there mutating in the crowded ‘chicken-sheds’ we call NHS hospitals. All other complaints that you and I may have, will just disappear under total collectivization. Death seems a benefit. Fashionable diseases come and go, along with miracle cures that end up ‘not working’ a few years later, will be quietly forgotten like Thalidomide.

    We shall be thinner, poorer and more desperate after several years of this. Biden with his family Chinese connections will ensure that his ‘voting’ machines are installed in all ‘western nations’ and imported across EUROPE for the EU. This is global program (Labour called it : ‘Social Engineering’). And almost all were a stream of EU directive (from the EU), and gold plated by UK civil-servants eager to please the new masters. Of course it was Tony Blair that politicised the civil-service that made all this possible.

    At the time China was a small player and Russia was the BBC favorite, times have reversed, China is most dominant, and has shown that ‘central planning’ (something we in UK had post war and only escaped in the 1960’s) is a really good idea to combat rising affluence. Inventions dreamt up by the UN was sponsoring
    fringe groups to collapse the family, church influences, money supply (central banking), Industrial permits (called CO2 emission targets), and placements in key positions of authority to alter course (on demand). Usually left wingers who approve of the UN policies, and can put them into practice. They hold all the key positions. UK Institutions long hollowed out, are replaced with mediocre voices of the radical left.

    The BBC is hide bound by these rules and regulations.

    We have all been ‘signed up’ nations (including UK) to enforce A BRAVE NEW WORLD (or GLOBAL RESET) – without disclosing why this has to be. Its no secret, Agenda 21. Its just no media organisation dare talk about it. UN policies can be mass produced and rolled out across near- identical mass media outlets of the BBC (and others in the loop).. on an international stage.

    We will survive as the opposition. We won’t watch the BBC’ or (even) LBC, SKY, ITV. But as we are in the minority. We are just ‘the skeptics’ and will be mocked in the biblical sense. To protest is to be ignored by mass media who are on a religious fervour to ‘save the planet’, without asking that austerity may mean the collapse of society to follow a tyrant (as yet to be installed). Our choices are limited, our voices ignored.

    (US) Biden will succumb to the mystery ‘virus’ quite early on. Drugs *might* work (but will dmake you totally rely on NHS drugs for life). Drug dependency. The BBC never discuss these things, nor can they. It and Eugenics program, designed to offset half the planets population in 20 years. Save the NHS, seems a bit hollow.

    A virus, what a brilliant idea! How novel and productive! Climate change must now be enforced using the same methods. Everyone together comrades. The collective administrations to ‘save the planet’ from destruction.

    EUGENICS by another method, totally acceptable alongside wholesale NHS abortion clinics and gender experiments. Something we fought against in the last war and has been re-established and re-badged as ‘equality and diversity’
    Medical experiments on children are in the courts. And yet we are not shocked. (Which national broadcaster promotes this stuff using public money), sponsors it and gives TV and radio time to it? There is no end to this indoctrination to establish ‘degradation’ ‘despair; and ‘infertility’. The opposite of faith , hope and charity. The BBC, of course, cannot be stopped from sponsoring it and claiming the medical experiments as ‘a success’. Infertility assured. Job done. Eugenics continues in other countries as Agenda 21.

    Medical testimony against UK gender clinic in court case released: ‘Live experiment on children’
    https://www.christianpost.com/news/medical-testimony-against-uk-gender-clinic-in-court-case-released.html?inf_contact_key=8aee933403c250807fb5ad34148f9acab7af0999dac2af6212784c39e05d2aef
    Also:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130157/The-physicians-testimony-led-High-Court-judge-ban-child-puberty-blocker-drugs.html?ito=facebook_share_article-top&fbclid=IwAR31KnrJ1V5F4TkMwnpUyTyFt902alQJP0PN4defTNFHx8wRe3KrfhE4GgE

    Its not just the BBC: ‘The truth is, social media platforms and the press are increasingly ‘policing’ what is allowed into the public domain, actively suppressing anything that runs counter to the preferred ‘Woke’ narrative with the weasel and duplicitous justification that they are promoting tolerance and inclusivity – branding contrary opinions and unwelcome facts (even where scientifically validated) as fake.   This is not in public interest – it is resurgence of the same spirit of Nazism evident in the 1930s.’
    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/09/tech/parler-suspended-apple-app-store/index.html

    Skeptics will be assimilated as a ‘hate-crime’. As promoted in law by the EU and (lastly) Scotland (not an land of free speech). The other word for a hate-crime is ‘blasphemy’, last used under Cromwell in this country and before that in Spain in the ‘Spanish Inquisition’. Going further back it was blasphemy to infer the Sun did did not go around the Earth. (The BBC fact checkers would now ensure the opposite was true). To deny the BBC funding is a similar claim, along with Climate Change, Gender assignment, Race theory and Diversity that clearly shows, all things are NOT equal and never will be. If this was the case, Marxism would have never have taken over the BBC political class, (who profited from every adventure they now deny being involved in). And the UN Agenda 21 would never have been created to combat ‘climate change’ ( a dire projection which even when proved ‘wrong’ on higher Science, is never reported in the mass media). A war we can never win. They change the argument (climate) at will (BBC deniability), and the ‘science’ was never really about Science (big S) but a change of global politics. Its all about Political science. Tony Blairs realm.

    Hence an eternal virus from now on. An entire planet in lock down. If only Gordon Brown would come back to end all ‘economic’ down-turns. He had a plan, it failed, as did Tony Blair before him. They had a global plan and this is it, (plan B). Or perhaps the only plan to Save the NHS or some other notional nonsense, we shall here more of the same on all channels.

    It will be a hate crime (Blasphemy) to question the past socialist failures both here in the UK and around the world in the ‘experiment’..
    A new world: A new austerity! No votes, no choice, one diet (vegan), one size fits all, poverty, poor health, mental torture and a TV and Radio you cannot turn off. Is this our future? A UN dream of equal abuse on us all. To solve a problem that cannot be solved by man without extinction.

    China is the new focus to copy and follow. A new climate model!
    Environmentally – globally – nothing will change. China will not change either.
    Global CO2 will be a ‘luxury’ tax the rich can easily avoid (as they don’t pay the EU or UN carbon taxes). Bitcoin mirrors the global anxiety. Taxes will rise astronomically.. Taxes to pay the NHS will increase ( at the same time) your paid minimum wage will stagnate. Luxury items will be maintained for the very rich.

    Its hard to be an optimist. This one is so well planned, the problems will surface when the money no longer exists. No savings, no investments, no pensions (eventually). Is this not a Marx liberal dream of modernity? Are we not now living the Marxist dream? Biden set the standard for how to win against all odds.
    Cheat.

    America beaten into submission by effective cheats. Biden will have control of all the buttons, so any future diversion from the prime directive is now impossible without a civil war.
    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/the-socialist-conquest-of-america

    China must be pleased with the outcome of its Biden investments.
    Without a doubt China will rule the worlds industry. The global reset will not fix the problem but we will face 20 years of austerity.

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  33. Beltane says:

    Predictable Labour luvvie Joan Bakewell is taking Matt Hancock to court over his failure to provide a second dose of the Pfizer vaccine as ‘promised’, with super solicitors Leigh Day – the noble enterprise behind British forces prosecutions – at her service.

    Perhaps Ms Bakeoff missed the rational medic who said the other day: ‘If you have two family members, both with Covid, and two doses of vaccine, would you give one dose each to the two or two doses to one of them?
    Being a BBC nurtured Labour peer obviously imparts an above average sense of privilege but evidently not egality.
    Will she qualify for legal aid in her quest?

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Then there is Esther Rantzen who maintained not minding missing her second dose as long as it could go to those like firemen, teachers, front liners.

         12 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      Then there is Esther Rantzen who maintains not to mind missing her second dose if it went to those in services like firemen, teachers, front liners etc.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      I remember Joan Bakewell – the thinking man’s crumpet.

         4 likes

    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      I was watching The Third Man recently. Always time well-spent.

      There’s not enough penicillin in Vienna to go round so Orson Welles took what there was, watered it down so that its effect worse than no penicillin at all, and flogged it to the authorities at black market prices. Unfettered free enterprise of course but that’s by the by.

      That’s how daft the situation with withholding the second half of the Pfizer vaccine is.

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  34. Concrete sea says:

    Beeb news again today – so predictable. If it’s not about the size of your packet (of free food) it’s negative stuff about Covid vaccinations and who, what and where. Never any positive stuff. It really is quite depressing. Cue the next Beeb ‘idea’ that we are all depressed (due to them, but don’t mention that) and what are the Government going to do about it, where is all the free counselling etc etc.

    Once again we are faced with numerous people who cannot grasp the simple concept of history.
    An example Beeb headline ‘ I remember going to bed with hunger pains’. Danielle recalls that she “was brought up in a household where we didn’t have food at home,”
    Her mother was ill, and couldn’t work. A single-parent household, Danielle says she and her two siblings were often left to “fend for themselves”, in addition to caring for their mum.

    Now bearing in mind it’s the Beeb if half that story were true, then it does tug at the heartstrings a little. But wait, Danielle is 39. So by my calculations 25-30 years ago. The idea that we haven’t progressed as a country, moved on and improved our standard of living is preposterous. Both parents are responsible, whether it’s one Dad or five and both parents should pay, with severe jail penalties if they don’t. Today her story is irrelevant, apart from being historical.
    That’s where this country has gone backwards, the SFNB (Something For Nothing Brigade) has taken over, we dance around them, they avoid their responsibilities and then the average person picks up their tab.

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    • G says:

      CS,
      “……then the average person picks up their tab.”

      Thats Socialism for you. With Communism, it gets even better……. So I’m told.

      Can’t wait to find out.

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    • Excartographer says:

      Hear hear, as far as negativity goes lunchtime local news highlighted one chap who’d tried to book ‘jabs’ for himself and his partner and had to give up because the recorded message told him all their agents were currently busy then disconnected the call. Much sighing and tutting about the failure of the system THEN almost as an afterthought the closing comment was that he tried again a bit later and got through and has booked appointments successfully. This apparently constitutes ‘news’

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  35. BRISSLES says:

    I mentioned in another thread how Joe gets-on-my Wicks has made a fortune from his on line exercise class. Well, even I hadn’t realised how much he has coined in. I read yesterday that it was NINE MILLION pounds ! and is set to make as much again with this lockdown. Apparently he charges £69.50, although I’m not sure how many classes that covers, but surely running up and down stairs would have the same effect and at no cost.

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    • Doobster78 says:

      He is put up as some kind of Saint by all in the media.

      In fairness, I think he gave a fair whack to charity , however, let’s be clear , online PE sessions , a couple of hours per day ( not even 5 days per week) should NEVER EVER be netting that many millions.

      DISGUSTING profiteering.

      But, media luvvy, so BBC no questions asked about how much he is making, but some caterer creams a bit of excess cash from school dinners and BBC in uproar !!!!

         17 likes

    • Concrete sea says:

      Brissles, I think you are onto something here. I ran upstairs to get my wallet to join Joe’s club. After I ran down again and read the rest of your post I realised I didn’t need to, so I ran up again to put my wallet away. I felt much fitter.
      Can I ask when you will deliver lesson Two and is it free and if not why not ? because I might complain if it’s not (apparently complaining is very in at the moment).

         21 likes

      • digg says:

        I think you owe Brissles £95.50 Concrete Sea!

           11 likes

        • BRISSLES says:

          Glad to hear it Concrete – next lesson ? pretend you’re walking across very hot sand on holiday, so get those knees up high – so much the better if you’re wearing a mankini. 🙂

             8 likes

  36. Doobster78 says:

    Standard BBC / MSM chart 😀😀

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  37. Dover Sentry says:

    Just now received a BBC online survey as to their performance. I filled it in diligently with much wear to my key board.
    From this location:

    [email protected]

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  38. digg says:

    Woke this morning with a slight runny nose….

    Conversation with wife…

    She: Are you feeling OK?

    Me: Yes I just need to blow my nose!

    She: Perhaps you should go for a Covid test?

    Me: No need for that, it’s nothing at all!

    She: But you might be putting me at risk!

    Background: I work from home and practically never leave the house other than a walk up and down the street every other day. She works in a Supermarket…

    Draw your own conclusions….

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  39. digg says:

    BBC “Live Coverage of the Trump Impeachment Vote”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-55645957

    This is the Stalingrad moment for freedom in the West.

    If they succeed, the USA is officially under Marxist control and this could become the blackest day in the history of the free World.

    If they fail, the long fightback starts.

    For all those Biden supporters the words “forgive them they know not what they do” comes to mind.

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    • StewGreen says:

      impeachment votes need a two thirds majority
      ..never say never.. but

      On storming day
      do you know how many senators they had in the House ?

      just 22 apparently

         8 likes

      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        Not so much ‘filibuster’ as ’empty-buster’, at only 22/100 attendance.

           2 likes

  40. digg says:

    the pic i posted was way too big!

       2 likes

  41. StewGreen says:

    now BBC R4how debates censorship

    He is now playing the clip of his special prog about the only news team there inside the House of Represtatives : RobertMoore of ITV +Sophie Alexander producer.
    Amol called the the protestors “insurrectionists”
    … there is a special prog on the Sounds App
    “The policeman got distracted I snuck into the crowd and into Congress”
    ITV refuse to hand over the footage unless there is court order.
    online only https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p093x09w
    The clip they picked talks about someone ripping down Pelosi’s office door plaque.
    That is not exactly murder ..are ITV holding back more exciting violence ?

    ====================

    Today’s actual show Guests:
    – Amy Peikoff, Chief Policy Officer at Parler;
    … (She’s not defending Trump, ‘Oh yeh we trying to stop this stuff that incited the insurrection’ )
    – Glenn Greenwald, author and journalist;
    – Danielle Citron, professor of law at University of Virginia (big tech advisor, throwing out accusations at Trump)
    – Siddharth Venkataramakrishnan, Europe Tech Correspondent at the Financial Times

    Amol just quoted Lin Wood’s post about Mike Pence , without naming Woods

       5 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Oh what a surprise Glenn Greenwald the guy who would attack big tech didn’t get to speak ..cos of and line

         7 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Someone fire’s back at Amol
      and the guest said
      “#OrangeManBad Trump should have been banned years ago”

         11 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        What do you prefer ?
        – That I post the tweets straight like that
        .. or should I post just the link ?

           2 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Straight tweet – I don’t like going to links to see if they have value – or even work – but small potatoes –

             6 likes

        • Doobster78 says:

          Yep. Straight for me 👍

             6 likes

        • Roland Deschain says:

          Straight tweet, then we can see what it’s about without having to open another page and possibly lose our place here if we forget to open in a new tab.

             3 likes

  42. digg says:

    CNN report that group of leading scientists are warning about the end of civilisation…

    Top scientists warn of ‘ghastly future’ for planet as leaders underestimate ecological threats

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/13/world/biodiversity-climate-intl-scli/index.html

    The last paragraph tells me all I need to know about who they are what they are really saying…

    “Still, they wrote, fundamental changes to global capitalism, education and equality are required to address the problem.”

    So see….The UN, The WHO and Marxism will save us all Hurrahhhh!

    So we don’t need National Governments when we have Soros and his buddies to tell us what to do!

    Good luck with China and Russia mates!

       20 likes

    • JohnC says:

      I predict global disaster for the World which will eventually result in it becoming almost entirely covered with ice.
      If you give me lots of money, I’ll keep telling you about it and make up lots of things you can fund which I will tell you can stop it.
      But they won’t. At best they might slow it down a little bit. And I will be rich.

         7 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Top scientists warn of ‘ghastly future’ for planet as leaders underestimate ecological threats”

      Who is quoted ?
      Paul Ehrlich
      You know the guy who in 1970 wrote the prediction book about 2000 and got everything wrong


      In the report, published in the journal Frontiers in Conservation Science…
      ….
      Still, they wrote,* fundamental changes to global capitalism*,
      education and equality are required to address the problem

      Oh look at the take away line makes me thing #Socialism and #GreatReset

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  43. Fedup2 says:

    Jane Martinson – a Guardian Hack seems a bit concerned that non approved thought might still take place via a new TV station – I’ve cut and pasted the first two paragraphs from her piece which is freely available in that rag .

    From The Guardian 13 jan 2021 ….starts …

    ‘ Older, Brexit-supporting men who live outside London are really unhappy with the BBC. A survey commissioned by the Times first said so, followed earlier this week by Lord Botham, writing in the Telegraph on behalf of “country people” fed up with the “woke” BBC. “There is another unaccountable institution that Britain got fed up with,” he warned. “The European Union and its officials in Brussels made the mistake of thinking that we would always grin and bear it.”

    There has long been an alignment of interests between those who despise the EU and those who despise the BBC for its publicly funded journalism. This confluence has also been demonstrated by British newspaper owners and their editors; now two new television ventures are providing a fresh outlet.”

    … continues in the paper ……

    … I hope the hack reads this site ….although by her failure to realise that by hitching its wagon to the EU and remain traitors – the BBC and its friends will remain a target for city types like me ….

    Last thing – ‘old men ‘ gets a mention by this lady hack twice in her piece . You kind of get the feeling she originally wrote ‘old white men ‘ but the editor saw that there might be an issue with the word ‘white ‘. I think the hack has a dislike of ‘old men ‘… maybe she got dumped or daddy didn’t like her much …

       17 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      JM is boss of Women in Journalism
      I think they used dodgy maths in their stuff.

      JM’s article yesterday
      “The BBC is being dragged back into 2016”

      Last week
      “Richard Sharp: BBC chair may be a Tory donor but it could be far worse”

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  44. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Telegraph and others.
    “Cambridge University to admit students with BBB grades in new diversity drive”

    BBB. Black, black, black.
    Let us import the most stupid race on the planet.
    Then give the ****s preferential treatment!

       18 likes

    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Why not reduce that a wee bit further to BBC, three letters that most people here would associate with falling standards.

         10 likes

  45. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Some Republicans say they will join Democrats and vote to charge President Trump with inciting insurrection.

    ***
    Going vague. Very BBC.

       11 likes

  46. tarien says:

    I cannot help but feel very sad that those who are in Capitol Hill, United States, should want to impeach President Donald Trump and with insurection/rebellion. Such a massive display of advertising this issue by such a den of vipers, led by a very vicious woman, does not do the Unites States any favours, within the US or in the World at large. Irrespective of the lengths the authorities there have gone to, to provide protection against any further outbursts of anger, before or during the anaugriation there will still be anger across America that will no doubt manifest itself later in time. A determiined effort against Donald Trump has been made continuously throughout his Presidency by the very evil that will shortly inhabit the White House and not just Biden. God help America.

       33 likes

  47. BRISSLES says:

    Headline on Sky.. “Intensive Care departments are now at breaking point – the number of Covid deaths at an all time high” – so surely that must free some beds up ? or am I being obtuse .

       10 likes

    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      B
      It frees the beds for those already in need of intensive care, but not, hitherto, receiving it.

         5 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        Actually it’s “the number of Covid deaths” REPORTED
        … R4 this morning said the actual highest death day recently was 799
        but “deaths reported on a day” often has blips due to data taking days to come in.

           5 likes

  48. StewGreen says:

    Local ITVnews ‘Britain’s kids that are all starving , cos of The Evil Tories’
    ..have another problem “they are obese”

       16 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      “Next gender equality in the fire service”
      regional shame 93% are men

      “nationally it’s 7%
      but in the Yorkshire area it’s EVEN WORSE at 6.9%”
      …. Yes they really said that.

      “introducing gender diversity in the Fire Fighting Industry is very important …Amrit Gahir ITV news”

         17 likes

      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        SG
        Thanks from the whole site for your efforts.
        Meanwhile, on ITV news..
        “The funeral of journalist Amrit Gahir was held today.
        Amrit was dropped from the eighth floor of a burning building by trainee firefighteress Omnogo Kwatabungo.
        Kwatabungo, 15, had only been in the job for six hours.”

           9 likes

      • Banania says:

        The “Fire Fighting Industry”? How do they increase productivity?

           5 likes

  49. Guest Who says:

    And in a single bound, Marianna’s career soars higher.

    https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/13/duke-profs-call-for-biden-to-create-a-misinformation-commission/?

    Unless Wendy gets his cv in first.

       7 likes

  50. Beltane says:

    Keeping up the pressure while adding to anxiety and stress, the BBC go back on the PCP trail with in-depth details of protective failings. One younger medic suggested that his group were ‘expendable’ which probably raised a muted cheer down at Momentum HQ.
    Earlier a screen treat in the shape of softly emoting Fergal Keane, briefly back from the Greek isle camps, giving his all to help us feel the pain, as only he knows how.

    With our main news source so hard at the task of fracturing our society, how long before they start to highlight the divisions between the pricked and the prickless? Perhaps some means of instant identification – like a high-viz yellow star?

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