506 Responses to Start the Week 11 January 2021

  1. BRISSLES says:

    Yeahhhhhhhh first !!!!!


  2. BRISSLES says:

    Enjoyed the Pottery Throw down, but as usual (and why was I not surprised ?) my senses were ‘thrown’ like the clay. Mention was made of Rose the technician who places all the creations in the drier. Enter Rose, with swishy blonde ponytail and long frock, carrying the precious pots. Then Rose started to speak…….. really ? the deepest of voices that any bloke would be proud of. I couldn’t stop laughing. It never ends.


    • StewGreen says:

      Bio : Kiln Girl Rose @RoseSchmits
      she/her pottery technician on the Great Pottery Throw Down


  3. taffman says:

    Al Beeb and Tories beware , tomorrow morning at 11am Richard Tice will be announcing something big, they are launching their leadership team for Scotland and talking through their campaign ahead of elections in May.
    Of course, that’s if the elections go ahead.
    Watch live on you tube and Twitter .

    Godspeed to the new common-sense party. Good luck to The Reform Party.


  4. taffman says:

    “Covid-19: Priti Patel defends police lockdown fines”
    She is getting tough on Brits but not on ‘illegals’ on dighies .


    • Fedup2 says:

      Make them get a covid test within 72 hours before getting in the dinghy…otherwise they cant come


      • taffman says:

        Just get the Royal Navy and Royal Marines out and stop them invading in the first place.
        IMHO the government are complicit and I smell a rat.


        • G says:

          Big rat – the UN Migration Compact. If the UK had any intention to limit/halt the scandalous importation of Third Worlder’s, it would have ‘de-volunteered’ and extricated the UK from the Compact.
          Wouldn’t it?


      • Jagman84 says:

        I’d concentrate on destroying the craft that they are using to make the crossing. There are rumours that they are being recycled back to France, to be re-used. If true, it’d suggest that the 2 governments are organising the whole operation.


  5. Fedup2 says:

    Seems like the press is being used to groom us for the next stage of lock down –
    6pm – 6am curfew
    No religious premises
    face masks All round
    Closure of nurseries
    Limiting exercise to thinking about it
    Banning of happiness

    I have to go get my car mot- ed Tueday – how can it be ok for a stranger to be in my car ? Plain dumb .


  6. Guest Who says:

    I had rather assumed that Brexit was old news.


    Maybe they are planning to add a ‘Roman Invasion’ category too? Lots of lovely diverse legionaries to feature using Getty Of Color Images.


  7. Eddy Booth says:

    Trump impeachment: Democrats prepare to act over Capitol riot

    “House Democrats plan to introduce a charge of “incitement of insurrection” against the president over his role in the violent storming of the Capitol.”

    Shouldn’t that be phrased something like his alleged role or what they see as his role..?

    “Democrats and an increasing number of Republicans accuse Mr Trump of encouraging last Wednesday’s riot in Congress in which five people died”

    So why don’t the bbc state exactly what these people think Trump did to offer encouragement.


    • StewGreen says:

      – BBC tweeting the story at 9:19pm
      – BBC tweeting the story at 9:20pm
      – BBC tweeting the story at 9:36pm

      Contains this line
      “But the party may not send any articles to the Senate for trial until after Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office.”


      • StewGreen says:

        That is a good video
        Sargon laughs throughout the video at the idea that the event was anything like the level of violence of typical antifa events
        (That is disrespectful to the 3 people that died unnecessarily
        but it was a million people march)

        But basically how media FRAME events in the intro is far more important than the actual truth in the video they show
        eg ‘Here the insurrectionist mob forced their way past police’
        video : shows cops opening the barrier
        & people ambling in, as if on a tour

        This is the whole fake news thing
        You can show a truthful video, but you can frame it completely deceptively by scowling and stating things that the video doesn’t actually show


        • StewGreen says:

          Sargon’s team from the start he has to say ‘the MAGA guys are bad bad insurrectionists’
          cos otherwise Orwellian YouTube will ban his video
          (his videos are multiple platform, but most watch on YouTube)

          Likewise Trump’s & Kayleigh’s post Capitol videos both take the strange tone, cos they too have to comply to Orwellian YouTube.

          I do wish Sargon wouldn’t laugh throughout, ..it’s not funny .. 3 people did die ..and the distortion by the establishment media is terrible.


      • StewGreen says:

        Democrats in May 2020: “Riots are just the voice of the unheard.”
        Democrats in Jan 2021: “TREASON!”

        In Sargon’s video he reads out claims that listeners send in
        One was that AndyNgo had identified at least 1 Capitol antifa
        but I see no evidence that Ngo tweeted that claim
        Now of course lots of Antifa were at the actual demo
        The fact that no video of them INSIDE the Capitol has come to light is strange. Much of the video did come from their friends so maybe it was purged first, and Trump supporters are dumbly not looking at their own videos from the inside.

        35m27s I don’t have it in my list but Andy Ngo confirmed that one of the guys there is an anti-fa prominent speaker.
        He goes to BLM events a lot and he as of last night has been arrested for participating in this right so so there does seem to have been a small element of antifa at least”

        On YouTube it seems 2 edited versions were made from the one live podcast.
        The Mostly Peaceful Capitol Storming
        Establishment Hypocrisy over BLM Riots


        • StewGreen says:

          By the antifa guy .. they don’t mean actual antifa
          They actually mean John Sullivan the founder of BLM Insurgence USA who I mentioned last week
          Incredibly he appeared on CNN with all his video from INSIDE the Capitol making the claim that he was just an observer whilst everyone else were rioters
          .. when he is actually on bail for all his previous BLM insurgence stuff.


    • G says:

      Or, BBC – ‘There’s no evidence to warrant the claim that he encouraged’.


  8. Deborah says:

    10pm BBC1 news we switched to hear ‘the emoter’ Mark Easton with access to and film of a morgue. I am not sure it does much for the Bbc’s viewing figures. It isn’t exactly what you want to see to induce a good night’s sleep. We switched off.


    • AndyDozefeet says:

      They did but I paid particular attention to Easton’s commentary in which, whilst stood in front of dozens of empty stainless steel body shelves in the emergency mortuary, he said “out of respect for the families of the dead, we are not going to show you any bagged up bodies but there are over 50 in here”. I immediately smelt bullshit.

      If they were there, they would’ve shown them on camera,


      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        “emergency mortuary”
        Mortuary, I hope its address was not released.
        Risks being full of sex-starved camel shaggers in ten minutes.


      • Khaa2091 says:

        Andy, I am not telling you what to think, rather reporting what’s happening to me. I am a long time lurker, occasional poster.

        On call Friday, I couldn’t get into my hospital because of the traffic jams of private ambulances bringing or collecting (I don’t honestly know) to the morgue. I have never seen this in any hospital I have worked in.
        I am asking you, please, to think about how many people you might have seen in the past 48hrs who might be infected if you were to test positive. 9 colleagues in my department are currently ill, one (forty something, nil comorbidities) unwell on oxygen admitted.
        I am aware that the media is shroud waving and trying to scare but we are struggling to cope with other imminent emergencies because our resources are tied up with Covid patients. Honestly, it is as bad – at least in my hospital – as is reported.


        • taffman says:

          Evening , would you be so kind as to say which hospital and how many were diagnosed with Covid19 and how many with Flu? . How many were Stabbings or other ?
          What “Private ambulances” ?
          Thank you.


          • Khaa2091 says:

            I would rather not identify myself, but district general hospital in S of England.
            Covid apparently 400ish inpatients testing positive (and we distinguish between asymptomatic / minimally unwell who I manage at home and unwell requiring hospital).
            Hospital wide I don’t know about flu figures, but of the 14 I am personally managing at the moment none have swabbed positive for flu (i am a specialist who incidentally manages patients with Covid, they are rarely admitted under me)

            Stabbings – are you asking about the asymptomatic by default? We have wards (I have lost my specialty ward to medical overflow) full of unwell, oxygen dependant patients. This is COVID rather than the well patients who have tested positive (you are swabbed on admission, day 3, day 5 and day 7.)

            Private ambulances are used to move bodies to and from the morgue and funeral homes. The traffic jam was moving bodies to and from (I don’t know which way around) the morgue and their number was causing delays to general traffic.


          • Khaa2091 says:

            I would rather not identify myself, but district general hospital in S of England.
            Covid apparently 400ish inpatients testing positive (and we distinguish between asymptomatic / minimally unwell who I manage at home and unwell requiring hospital).
            Hospital wide I don’t know about flu figures, but of the 14 I am personally managing at the moment none have swabbed positive for flu (i am a specialist who incidentally manages patients with Covid, they are rarely admitted under me)

            Stabbings – are you asking about the asymptomatic by default? We have wards (I have lost my specialty ward to medical overflow) full of unwell, oxygen dependant patients. This is COVID rather than the well patients who have tested positive (you are swabbed on admission, day 3, day 5 and day 7.)

            Private ambulances are used to move bodies to and from the morgue and funeral homes. The traffic jam was moving bodies to and from (I don’t know which way around) the morgue and their number was causing delays to general traffic.


            • taffman says:

              Thank you for your reply.
              I have good reason to enquire about the state of the area that you presumably practise in . My area the undertaker serves, is unusually very quiet . Also, I have not seen any figures quoted for the flu fatalities? I have no doubt that the genuine posters to this site welcome you .
              You must have had reservations about Al Beeb and it’s blatant bias to pop up in this site?


              • Khaa2091 says:

                Absolutely, am grateful that I obtain information from other sources and agree that the BBC massively interprets everything through a Liberal left prism.

                Flu surveillance data can usually be found at https://www.gov.uk/health-and-social-care/health-protection but the reporting mechanisms have been switched over to Covid at the moment. The info will be released eventually, but anecdotally I am seeing very little flu (we swab when admitting respiratory patients – this is not the main part of my workload, but I finish up with some).

                I am surprised that things are quiet in your area as that does not tally with my experience, or that of my GP friends but can only comment on what I have seen directly.

                It sounds as though most people are being sensible and avoiding too much contact outside the household, I am not intending to nag but it really is not good at work at the moment .


        • StewGreen says:

          @Khaa There are two things you mention
          #1Queues for a morgue
          #2 Hospitals being busy with Covid

          If ambulances are queuing for the morgue that sounds to me that one morgue has been designated as a Regional Covid Morgue so ambulances are bringing patients in from the region.

          I am aware that people should be thinking about their possible Covid contacts in work and bus/taxi travel.
          but there must a lot of people like me who have practically zero covid contact with anyone, since I’m never in the same space as someone for more than a few minutes.
          I was at the dentist last week, but even that was just 12 minutes.

          The charts today put London Covid at 1%, but that is five times more than in my region.

          As ever it’s not good that colleagues are ill
          but in a week most will be over it and have some immunity.


        • AndyDozefeet says:

          Thanks for your sensible non hysterical comments.

          I do indeed limit my contacts, just me, the missus, a young adult son and a cat. I work at home (have done for 6 years now – since before it became trendy) as does the missus. I wear a mask on the odd occasion I visit a supermarket. I go out walking early mornings in a rural area when there’s nobody around.

          Would love to get back to normal, golf with my mates, meals out with family, a few scoops with the boys every couple of weeks. Alas, it isn’t happening soon.

          My point was to illustrate the way the biased bbc has handled the whole thing. Going out of its way to catastrophise every small detail. If Easton’s report yesterday was true then the reason I didn’t believe it was not that I’m some kind of conspiracy theorist or covidiot, it’s because the biased bbc has got me and most of the people I know to a point where we don’t believe a word they say.

          Their fault not mine.


  9. taffman says:

    I think John Cadbury will be spinning in his grave to see the way chocolate is being advertised in these strange times.
    I am not buying that brand any more . How about you ?


  10. Laughing at Lefties says:

    If even a fraction of this is true, they Washington crime syndicate is about to burn and the BBC is going to have to finally be brought to heel for their deliberate misinformation.

    What can be confirmed is that Trump signed the Insurrection Act last night. That’s why there’s been several power outages including at the Vatican, where there was also gunfire heard. This is WW3.


    • taffman says:

      Laughing at Lefties
      Question: Has President Trump mentioned anything about this?

      I find it very hard to believe .


    • Roland Deschain says:

      How can that be confirmed?


    • StewGreen says:

      Open the video on Youtube
      the title is ALL CAPS
      does that inspire confidence ?
      2.3 million views 61K up votes 1.2K downvotes

      Maybe time wasting conspiracy stuff
      that works as a great distraction technique for the establishment ?

      It seems that these days libmob assert stuff of value “4”
      .. like “Trump lost the election nothing to see”
      then Trump’s team put forward evidence of value “6”
      like “hey we have a heap of evidence there was fraud and think we won a landslide”

      Then people come along and assert a massive conspiracy theory of value “10”
      like “hey there is a huge conspiracy all thee machines were programmed, we have these secret CIA raid in Germany”

      or like “There is a pizza restaurant where Top Men rape children in the basement”

      or like “It’s all to do with a secret Vatican network of satellites”
      (which BTW I saw in a video today a retired army general repeat to a meeting
      .. I guess there are 1000s of retired generals)

      Then half of Trumps people get obsessed by the value “10” vast conspiracies
      thus dividing the focus
      and allowing MSM to dismiss ALL Trump’s arguments as mad conspiracies.

      In such videos I want to see actual EVIDENCE in the first 2 minutes , not grand story telling.


      • StewGreen says:

        Ha people call him a secret Democrat agent
        Isn’t it funny how Lin Wood didn’t get banned from Twitter until after the election in Georgia.
        Before the election he was encouraging republicans not to vote.”


        • StewGreen says:

          FFS Trump lawyers Lin Wood and Sidney Powell
          And they were both campaigning for Republicans to boycott the Georgia vote
          Meanwhile Lin Wood posts death threat stuff on Parler afew times
          recently “Get the firing squad ready. Pence goes first”
          … The post was removed by Parler.
          There was stuff in early December as well


          • StewGreen says:

            That post that Parler deleted was not deleted by Twitter
            they just left in on his Twitter account
            After Parler deleted them, Lin Wood says his posts calling for Pence’s execution were “hyperbole.”
            He didn’t really mean it.

            Press reports mention Parler had previously removed some other Lin Wood inflammatory posts

            Yesterday Lin Wood was posting giant David Icke stuff on Parler
            ‘they all in on it Pence etc, global paedophilia cover up, Trump have revealed banking fraud, Pope arrested ” etc.
            post 1
            post 2

            Peaople say he is still pummping it out on CloutHub
            but anyone could start an accout pretending to be him.


    • G says:

      Apparently 100% of power supply to the whole country went down in Pakistan yesterday.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      None of this is true.

      The coup against President Trump has succeeded. He will not be president after 20th January. Thus, he has no power any more. He can sign any act he wants, but the deep state will just ignore him. What is he going to do about it?


      • Blackwell says:

        Democratic elections aren’t coups.

        I quite like the idea though of Trump sitting in Mar-a-Lago signing presidential ‘acts’, which don’t have any authority. He never did sign many ‘acts’, just executive orders.

        Actually, Mar-a-Lago is probably a best case scenario at this point. I’d suggest he sign them in the ADX Florence.


  11. ScottishCalvin says:

    Something I scribbled earlier


  12. Nibor says:

    More on the book TWATBBC .
    Previously the authors have disputed that there is a ‘silent majority’ and if there is it’s not right leaning folk who do things like read the Daily Mail , support Brexit or who are patriotic.

    Then they talk about the “people in the centre of the political spectrum “ without saying who these people are or how they’re defined — except that they love the BBC.
    I would have thought people in the centre would be part of the majority!

    The next paragraph the authors say they look at right wing “ charges” against the BBC and then from the left .They invite one from each ( Robin Aitken is one ) to review each other and the authors summarise [spelt summarize] their works . I expect it will be in the best BBC tradition.
    Then this ;
    ‘ We then look at the ACADEMIC [ my emphasis] evidence on the BBCs supposed left wing bias and relate it to to the IMBALANCE [ my emphasis] in the combined readerships of left and right leaning newspapers.

    I’ll break into the paragraph here .
    Academics ? Where would you find one not left of centre and why would they be any better than the people on this site ?
    Relating to readership of newspapers?
    How can you relate a state monolith to a free market ? Why stop at newspapers, why not the internet as well ( before Twitter style censorship) ?



  13. Darcy3 says:

    Interesting, power outages around the world…borders closed with Canada


    claims insurrection act signed last night by Trump


  14. Nibor says:

    TWATBBC book a bit more .

    A subtitle in chapter nine :
    ‘Pinkoes and Traitors : The Right Wing Case

    I’m no psychiatrist, but I’m finding the authors choice of words tells us more about them than they about the BBC , the book that the two of them wrote over a two year period.
    Consider the first paragraph;
    ‘The main right wing case against the BBC is that it has an institutional left wing bias , reflected in its programming . This has been endlessly [ that word again] in books , newspaper’s articles and think tank reports for decades, now amplified, more raucously, by anti BBC blogs and YouTube channels.
    These attacks [] focus mainly on the choice and treatment of interviewees on the BBCs news and current affairs programmes . The obsessive level of granular detail can be mesmerising.
    Stopping mid paragraph there : the authors think that detailed analysis by anyone or any organisation that monitors the BBC is endless, raucous, amplified, obsessive, granular, wrong .
    So are BBC investigations, analysis, uncovering of secrets , monitoring, detailed, the same ?
    This is a chapter that later has a subtitle; Academic Research on the BBCs left wing bias .
    Are they going to be granular, obsessive, raucous and a bit detailed?
    I sincerely hope if someone’s paying them something they will be robustly detailed analytical or someone, or some organisation is not getting their money’s worth.



  15. tomo says:

    Well… by golly , by gosh who’dah thunk the Horrible History crew would’ve got an extended telly gig in the lockdown?

    I wonder if they’re working on a ‘Fatcha wuz ‘orrible episode for the kiddywinkies.

    Be able to afford those holidays in Cuba now! – winnah, winnah, vegetarian chickin dinnah!


  16. StewGreen says:

    I am minded to skim troll posts
    and not reward them them with attention.
    They often MISRESPRENT the situation, but it can take hours of fact finding to find out

    A couple of points to what @Blackwell the disruptor wrote

    I just couldn’t understand why Trump didn’t just take his complaint to the Federal Election Commission.

    … created in 1974 to enforce campaign finance laws in federal elections

    (Blackwell continued his copy and paste which is the same as Wikipedia)

    … but has not functioned since July 2020 due to vacancies in membership. …
    As of May 19, 2020, there were 350 outstanding matters on the agency’s enforcement docket and 227 items waiting for action.
    As of September 1, 2020, Trump had not nominated anyone to fill the FEC vacancies positions.

    #1 @BW’s narrative is the FEC can’t investigate VOTING fraud, cos it has no quorum and that’s all Trump’s fault !

    Is it ?
    The rule is the FEC has 3 members from each party. People kept resigning, but Trump nominated new ones
    May 21 news story The Federal Election Commission regains a quorum in the middle of the 2020 election cycle:
    On May 19, 2020, the Senate voted to confirm the nomination of James “Trey” Trainor
    June “President Trump nominated D.W. Lafferty”
    Sept : “President Trump nominated Allen Dickerson to serve as a commissioner ”
    “He nominated Broussard and Cooksey in October. ”
    So Trump HAD nominated people before the election
    the senate had not confirmed them
    BUT it did last month
    December 9, 2020 The U.S. Senate confirmed three new members to the Federal Election Commission Wednesday, finally giving the agency enough commissioners to enforce campaign finance laws after leaving it powerless throughout much of the 2020 election cycle
    So BW’s assertion is wrong

    #2 BUT Does the FEC even judge voting fraud ?
    You wrote (My bold) “to enforce campaign finance laws in federal elections”
    ie seems it does NOT judge VOTING fraud

    BTW Trey Trainor, Federal Election Commission (FEC) Chairman
    is often quoted
    “Based on the info gathered from PA and elsewhere in the country, this presidential election is illegitimate.”


    • Darcy3 says:

      Yes it can be quite informing to check references, I was advised to in a fascinating book by Ben Goldacre “Bad Science” about how the msm at the very least misunderstand stastics and studies and at worst take things out of context or even misrepresent to suite their own agenda.

      One instance was about self styled “nutritionist” Patrick Holford, very popular at one time with his “Optimum Nutrition Bible”

      Packed with quotes in the text to references to “studies” etc to back up his claims

      Goldacre searched these references and found some were just magazine opinion articles in womens lifestyle magazines and worse.


      And further

      “the ASA have found that Patrick Holford made untruthful, unsubstantiated claims in a leaflet he was sending out. Pasted below is the full adjudication and also the original advert in question, so that you can decide for yourself about the content, and I’ve also pasted my brief guide to making ASA complaints about dodgy adverts for a rainy afternoon.

      I’m in a bit of a rush, but there are a few things in this ruling which I find extremely interesting.

      Most important is this: the ASA seem to be vaguely under the impression that Patrick Holford does not sell pills. This is incomprehensible to me. In the Holford books I have read he recommends pills, in fact his own, from the companies he works with, and indeed from his very own pill vending company. His face appears on pill bottles. His latest pill vending operation “Health Products for Life” has just sold for £464,000. He has recently signed up with yet another pill company, Biocare, to sell even more pills with them.

      To me, these are just some of the classic tell-tale traits to look out for if you think you may be dealing with a man who sells pills.

      Now I speak as a man who is highly critical of the whole phenomenon of pill dependence, whether it’s the multi-billion pound supplements industry who have unbridled access to a gushing media, or big pharma peddling new diseases like “female sexual dysfunction” (I’ll post a lecture in which I discuss medicalisation in the podcast over the next few days).

      I happen to think that while commercial interests are trying to persuade us that there is a biomedical, rather reductionist and mechanical reason why we are suffering from tiredness, headaches, shaglessness or heart disease, the real answers often lie in social and lifestyle issues which are intellectually simple, but motivationally and politically complex. I’m talking about things like diet, exercise, and social inequality: good luck cracking them.

      Anyway, the whole pill-selling thing is, of course, all the more amusing given Holford’s frequent and rather surreal claims to have no competing interests, and his even more unpleasant and unsubstantiated suggestions that other people do have competing interests. For students of irony I very strongly recommend that you read this all-time comedy classic from the BMJ rabid responses here. It is pwnership, but on an unprecedented scale.

      I could write about Holford from now until the day I die, much as these gloriously overinclusive people seem to plan to do. The only question is whether I’m bored of him: there are things which could easily awaken my interest, and there is more, but I’ve got work to crack on with. Enjoy, and don’t miss the instructions below for making your own ASA fun at home.”


    • Blackwell says:

      Hi Stew,

      I will always try to be accurate in what I write and argue in good faith. We all make mistakes of course, or repeat something we’ve heard as fact, and I hope I’m big enough to admit that. Anonymously on the internet anyway!

      I was researching which bodies or organisations had pronounced on the veracity of the 2020 election when I came across mention of the US ‘Federal Election Commission’.

      I immediately wondered what it had to say about the 2020 elections. It didn’t have anything to say, a dead end:


      If it had happened to have something to say, or if it did investigate voter fraud, I probably would’ve researched that too with another source other than Wikipedia. Or I would’ve heard from it previously.

      However, what it did say I thought was an interesting aside, I posted after my previous longer post and thought it was fairly clear it was from Wikipedia or a quoted source:

      Weekend Thread 9 January 2021

      Perhaps a link to the Wiki page would’ve been better protocol.

      I thought it was an interesting aside because it’s consistent with the high staff turn-over in Trump’s administration, and the many vacancies in his government (feel free to research this further!):


      Secondly, it suggests that his recent great interest in protecting the integrity of US elections may not extend to the FEC.

      However, nothing of what you have said disputes what I quoted from the Wiki page.

      I don’t think I can be fairly accused of having a narrative of suggesting its Trump’s fault the FEC can’t adjudicate on voter fraud, when I’ve copied in the bit that says its role is in finance – its the first sentence when explaining what it is – which I could have left out if I had wanted to mislead:

      ‘It was created in 1974 to enforce campaign finance laws in federal elections’.

      So it seems the commission was unable to function from late August 2019 to December 2020 (Trump was elected 2016)

      ‘It was left powerless throughout much of the 2020 election cycle’.

      Campaign finance during a US election? Isn’t that important? Maybe Stormy Daniels knows something about that.

      There could be up to 6 members on the FEC though right? Rather than 4? Trump could nominate two more, given the number of Republicans that keep resigning which he then has to replace? And given the Senate was Republican.

      The Democrat who resigned in 2017 called the FEC ‘dysfunctional’. The great deal-maker could surely get in there and sort out it out? Maybe between the 7th and the 8th hole?

      Its worth giving Trey Trainor’s page a read:


      According to this he refused to recuse himself adjudicating on Trump, and thinks separation of church and state is a ‘fallacy’.

      Trey is perhaps often quoted because he’s been the subject of pro-Trump disinformation:


      “We really haven’t been briefed on any of it given that we don’t — you know, the states control the elections and the FEC really doesn’t have any jurisdiction over how these are being handled at the state level,” he said. “For the federal level, they would communicate through the Election Assistance Commission.”


      • Fedup2 says:

        Blackwell – someone here called you a troll the other day . So I looked at your post about the American election committee . I thought – ‘wow – if this post is true – then it might explain a lot ‘.

        But now – after stew green has done the leg work to get closer to the truth – it turns out you peddle false claims – leaving certain bits out to fix your own narrative .
        Before you come back telling us stuff you’d better get your facts right – the ‘all make mistakes ‘ line doesn’t play when you are trying to undermine the views of others using dodgy ‘cut and paste ‘ ……

        I’ll leave others to determine whether you are a troll or not .


        • Blackwell says:

          Oh well, how frustrating. I can only suggest you re-read.
          I’m doing you a public service really.



          • The WestWyvern says:

            Public service, really? The BBC claim the same.

            However, more like 77 Brigade disinformation tactics. Spotted a mile out.


            • Blackwell says:

              He’s on to us boys.


            • JimS says:

              I see from the FEC’s Inspector General’s report for September 2020 that 86% of its recommendations have been outstanding for more than six years, so it isn’t just Donald Trump that hasn’t given it the highest priority.

              All a bit of a red herring really in the grand scheme of the government of the USA and no doubt completely off the radar of the BBC’s USA ace team who watched, split-screen, CNN and DT on Twitter and called it ‘news’.


          • taffman says:

            Do you support Al Beeb? Do you pay their Telly Tax ?
            That’s the tax robs from the poor to pay the rich.
            If you don’t do either, you may be interested in this site and find the information useful ……………..
            Tell your chums . They even provide a free advice booklet ……………..https://tv-licensing.blogspot.com/p/free-book.html


          • Fedup2 says:

            I’ve re read – you withdrew some of your initial ‘mistaks after being found out by someone who made the effort of checking out your claim .

            Can I suggest – if you only want to talk about president trump you find a more suitable website – or perhaps give us examples of an ‘unbiased bbc’ – which is the primary purpose of this site ….


            • taffman says:

              “or perhaps give us examples of an ‘unbiased bbc’ – which is the primary purpose of this site ….”
              You beat me to it!


            • Blackwell says:

              Then I suggest you read it again, including this bit:

              ‘However, nothing of what you have said disputes what I quoted from the Wiki page.’

              What false claims did I make? What claim did I withdraw? I didn’t.

              However, having researched the Federal Election Commission further, it seems that there is in fact ample evidence of Trump’s incompetence involved.

              Stew Green’s ‘research’ is in itself misleading.

              I’ll try again.

              Stew says:

              ‘#1 @BW’s narrative is the FEC can’t investigate VOTING fraud, cos it has no quorum and that’s all Trump’s fault !’

              I quoted the info on Wikipedia about the FEC. This included the statement in the opening sentence that it was responsible for investigating campaign finance violations during elections. I’m not sure how that could be much clearer.

              ‘The rule is the FEC has 3 members from each party. People kept resigning, but Trump nominated new ones….So BW’s assertion is wrong’.

              What assertion was wrong?
              The FEC should have 6 members, 2 Democrats, 2 Republicans and 2 independents (not 3 members of each party as Stew stated).
              They are nominated by the President and approved by the Senate. It has been dysfunctional for some years, including under Obama, seems largely due to political polarisation – one can see how it might be difficult to get nominees confirmed if that Presidency and Senate belong to different parties.

              They seem to have all but given up on trying to get ‘independents’ on it. One Democrat resigned in 2017, and since several Republicans have resigned, and are ultimately replaced. (Not serving their 5 year terms)

              The commission was unable to function from late August 2019 to December 2020 (Trump was elected 2016)….‘It was left powerless throughout much of the 2020 election cycle’.

              So Trump hasn’t managed to fill the FEC with the full 6 nominees or even the 4 that are required for it to function. Despite the Republicans having control of the Senate.

              So Trey Trainor was eventually approved and made the FEC’s quorum of 4 complete, meaning they can function – not in time for the 2020 election though.

              So what was the delay?

              This from Trey Trainor’s Wiki:

              On September 14, 2017, Trump nominated Trainor to be a member of the Federal Election Commission for a term expiring April 30, 2023. Trainor’s nomination languished in the Republican-controlled Senate for years, with Trump re-nominating him twice (in 2019 and 2020). During his FEC confirmation hearings, he refused to recuse himself from matters related to the Trump campaign.[9]

              On May 19, 2020, the Senate voted to invoke cloture on his nomination by a 50–43 vote[10] and later that day confirmed his nomination by a 49–43 vote.[11] Trump’s nomination of Trainor broke a precedent; traditionally, presidents have made nominations to the FEC in pairs (simultaneously nominating one Republican and one Democrat); Trump’s decision to nominate Trainor alone was criticized by Democrats.

              Stew quoted Trainor on election fraud. However, as pointed out, this is disinformation. (Funny, no-one seems to have a problem with that??)


              “In the past week, comments that Federal Election Commission Chair Trey Trainor made have spread online as purported evidence of voter fraud and illegitimacies in the recent election.

              RecentlyHeard.com, a news website, wrote that “The Chief Electoral Officer of the Federal Election Commission made a Bombshell statement, saying that, from what he saw in Pennsylvania, and news that he had come from elsewhere in the world, this election was unconstitutional.”

              “It’s not just anyone’s making the announcement. Trey Trainor isn’t just a state election officer, he’s a federal officer. And on top of that, he’s the chairman of the whole commission,” its story continued.”

              As Stew himself is keen to point out, the FEC don’t investigate or pronounce on voter fraud at the polls (only election finance). Yet he quotes Trainor, giving his view weight.

              As I wrote previously, Trainor said the below on election fraud:

              “We really haven’t been briefed on any of it given that we don’t — you know, the states control the elections and the FEC really doesn’t have any jurisdiction over how these are being handled at the state level,” he said. “For the federal level, they would communicate through the Election Assistance Commission.”

              He’s a Trump acolyte that scraped through approval by the President’s own party, saying he thinks, based on stuff he’s heard, that the election was fraudently. He’s then presented as an authority.

              What’s happened here is that Stew claimed I omitted to mention something I’d mentioned, and suggested something I didn’t eve claim, was inaccurate. Having investigated further the claim I didn’t make – it turns out to be accurate.



  17. Nibor says:

    More again TWATBBC book

    You’ll see some hypocrisy here
    The paragraph has:
    ‘The obsessive level of granular detail can be mesmerising.
    They count the number of interviewees catagorised ( by them ) as left -or right-wing In a given in any given news item or on, say ,a Newsnight panel . They look at how these people are introduced and questioned by presenters . Did Emily Maitless give Tory a rough ride while letting Labourite off to easily ? Was the film package edited to give an unfairly negative impression of the right winger or unduly flatter the leftie ? We’re they given equal airtime? These questions are endlessly monitored. Almost invariably the BBC is found to be at fault .’

    Now I know later on in the chapter and probably the book the authors will defend the BBC using studies by universities and academics . Now how are they going to monitor any perceived bias ? Should they monitor, considering the authors think right wing monitors are bad , should they be detailed, or slapdash?
    Should the academics collate data , or is that obsessive?
    Should the academics be considered wrong if they analyse the BBC from a left wing perspective?



  18. BRISSLES says:

    I see that Joe gets-on-my Wicks is in line on-line to make himself a few more million, as he starts up his exercise classes again. More fool them that want to line his pockets when you can do a quick run around the block for free.


    • Darcy3 says:

      I found working in London, leaving home at 6am having to travel around all day up and down stairs around stations, lugging around laptops, chargers and files, did wonders for my fitness and I got paid for it, 2 inches off the waist in 3 months

      A useful hint : taking stairs instead of lifts

      win win

      Also very few fatties in China compared to here, with our 40 / 50 year olds hobbling about on sticks or electric wheelchairs (Lowestoft amazing there are fleets of them)

      Few carbs no sugar, meat as garnish rather than main meal..


      • BRISSLES says:

        “..Also very few fatties in China compared to here, with our 40 / 50 year olds hobbling about on sticks or electric wheelchairs (Lowestoft amazing there are fleets of them)….”

        Couldn’t agree more. Same in Japan – where Tofu is big in the diet (not for my palette), and in India (mostly vegetarian). Here its far too easy to get a sit down scooter, for mobility issues, when for arthritic problems keeping moving is key to relieving pain. Most are obese and only move between scooter and sofa – then have to have doors removed to get them out of the house in an emergency !! Humiliating.


  19. Roland Deschain says:

    Could get interesting.

    With Parler having its servers pulled by Amazon, Gab looks best placed to weather the coming storm.

    In the meantime, how does one best cut the funding to Amazon, Apple and Google without cutting off one’s nose? I’m not going to ditch my iPhone and iPad just like that, so am stuck with what they deign to allow. Are there ways round Apple’s restrictions? I won’t be replacing them with Apple products when they expire, but that’s a while off yet and will bring its own soul searching given Google’s ownership of Android. In lockdown, Amazon’s service is excellent and I make extensive use of Prime, including films and series. So junking that isn’t really feasible.


    • Guest Who says:

      I acted in haste, to be sure.

      I have thought about it long and hard, and still do not know if my decision was wrong for the right reasons.


      However, I have decided to return to twitter.

      I am already back on Facebook having totally failed to cancel properly by being an IT dunce. Which is a good thing. I run several things there which served good people doing good stuff. Plus I miss the cat pictures. And wishing folk happy birthday with a cheery GIF on the day having forgotten to send a card.

      Twitter Mk.1 is sadly toast. A lot of good stuff and good people lost.

      However it was tied to my businesses and given I was primarily active in areas where the establishment bears grudges there was already unwelcome, petty, malicious attention being paid.

      So given it seems a stadium for ideological barnies, I will engage on this basis. No matter they own the stadium, the pitch, the ref and can move goalposts at will, and unperson you, the crowd is still mixed, with a majority in the seats and that bitter minority who think they run things in the boxes when not back in the hospitality area stepping over Bolly bottles.

      So this is a case of it still being worth fighting from within. They need challenging on their own turf. The stay silent and your point is valid; they lose. They engage and dig a hole deeper; they lose. They ban you; they lose.

      You on twitter, at night, Blackwell?

      As Roland points out, whilst brands are easier to take a stand with, tech and retail dominance is less so.

      I use Duck Duck Go over Google, but all here is Apple and will remain so until a sensible alternative presents.

      Ditto Amazon, Prime, Netflix…

      But soon I will return to twitter to ask them awkward questions.

      Plus of course Knob, BS, Lewis, Marianna, Wendy, Chris, etc.

      Some may even have to ban me, in a trusted and transparent fashion, with integrity. Again.

      Power that presumes to hold others to account needs holding to account too.


  20. Deborah says:

    I agree with you Roland apart from Amazon. Ever since I found £7.99 on my bank account for Prime which I hadn’t asked for (and got back immediately], I may find items on Amazon but then buy directly from the manufacturer or go elsewhere. Amazon is store of last resort.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Well, I shall now be buying direct where possible but with Prime membership I can order tonight and often receive tomorrow. Manufacturers usually can’t approach that level of speed, nor indeed the price. It is however the video service from Prime that would be the most difficult to replace, due to exclusivity deals.

      One thing I want to see is a breakup of monopolistic services like that, and indeed the Apple/Android duopoly. When there are multiple providers the free speech argument becomes largely moot.


    • G says:

      Ebay seems managed by people of integrity. Rarely does one hear of the same applying to Ebay that others suffer from, like Amazon.
      I’ve been very happy with Ebay for many years.


  21. StewGreen says:

    Radio : Van Tam had a curry in a restaurant after lock down rules
    and the taxpayer paid the £21

    Twitter : ” you daily Mail nutters, it was in March, it was after Boris made the announcement but BEFORE the rule came in”

    The rule was more about stopping people being in crowds in restaurants, rather than 1 person at a table.


  22. taffman says:

    “Storm Filomena: Spain races to clear snow before temperatures drop”
    “As much as 50cm (20 inches) of snow fell on Madrid, one of the worst hit areas, between Friday night and Saturday.”
    Who said that our children would never see snow again ?


    • JimS says:

      “Who said that our children would never see snow again ?”

      Keep up! ‘Because of Brexit’ our children will never visit mainland Europe ever again. No holidays in Spain, no Erasmus.

      And if they are allowed in they will adults before the queue at Dover lets them on the ferry!


      • taffman says:

        And Al Beeb was the main proponent of all that fake information. If I recollect correctly, quite a number of MPs and politicians pointed this out, including Bo Jo. What’s more, the people of Great Britain know this , witness the amount of people not paying the telly tax. Yet the goons are allowed to go around by law, collecting their ‘Protection Money’. Any other gang or outfit would have been closed down by the law by now. One body that could be complicit with this scam is OfCom?


  23. Richard Pinder says:

    A new study published by Frontiers in Public Health concluded that neither lockdowns nor lockdown stringency were correlated with lower death rates. Researchers analyzed data from 160 countries over the first 8 months of the pandemic, to determine how they are correlated with COVID-19 mortality.

    The loony lockdowns have resulted in mass collateral damage, a global recession, millions of businesses ravaged, tens of millions of jobs lost, widespread economic destruction, surging poverty, and mental health deterioration and a surge in suicides.

    Months ago researchers had compiled enough empirical evidence to determine how effective lockdowns were in taming COVID-19.
    The reality is that lockdowns come with incredible collateral damage but appear to do little if anything to actually slow down the coronavirus. This is precisely why the World Health Organization reversed course in October and began advising nations to refrain from using them. “Lockdowns just have one consequence that you must never ever belittle, and that is making poor people an awful lot poorer,” Dr. David Nabarro, the WHO’s Special Envoy on COVID-19, observed.

    Despite mounting evidence that lockdowns don’t work and are incredibly harmful, most members of Parliament continue to push them. In doing so, they’re falling victim to a dangerous deception. “One of the great mistakes is to judge policies and programs by their intentions rather than their results,” the famed economist Milton Friedman once warned.

    Other than a few highly intelligent members of Parliament. SAGE and the British Parliament overwhelmingly voted for the present Lockdown. It’s time for the elite to admit a basic reality about lockdowns. They aren’t just horribly destructive and an affront to liberty. They’re actually failing to save lives.



  24. Darcy3 says:

    The Pelosi Witchfinder General had her lap top stolen at Capitol Hill (amongst others) and now wants Trump gone as quickly as possible

    the game is afoot



  25. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning Emole #wefiles ‘looks closely’* using BBC “quotes”.

    Trump under fire

    President Donald Trump is due to leave office on 20 January, but for some that’s not soon enough. His political opponents, along with a growing number of his own party, accuse him of encouraging last week’s riot in Congress in which five people died. They want him out of the White House now.

    Democrats are demanding Vice-President Mike Pence use the 25th amendment of the constitution to transfer power. If he refuses, they say they’ll proceed with impeachment proceedings against Mr Trump – for a second time. What are those processes and how likely is either to succeed? We look closely. The White House has dismissed the impeachment as “politically motivated” and divisive.

    Elsewhere, the ruling body of American golf is taking next year’s PGA Championship away from Mr Trump’s golf course in New Jersey, arguing the association with the outgoing president would be detrimental to its brand.


    Elsewhere the BBC is using its unique editorial integrity to mislead on facts to make partisan inferences.


  26. Guest Who says:

    Also deemed Moleworthy…

    Royal mission

    Prince Charles is launching an appeal for businesses around the world to sign up to his “Terra Carta”, or Earth Charter, to safeguard the planet. It aims to raise £7bn to help restore biodiversity and boost sustainable economic growth. Some of the world’s biggest banks have already committed, adopting tough environmental targets for their operations. The initiative marks 50 years of environmental campaigning by the prince.

    His Chasness driving his electric Aston Martin XR to catch the Lear Bill sends for him?


    Questions unlikely to be asked by the BBC. Even Mishap when popping over to interview him, as both are ‘very busy’.


  27. Roland Deschain says:

    And so the net closes in.

    I did warn about that on here recently, and indeed a while back when Parler first came to prominence. So I shall be using Gab wherever possible, acknowledging there are some unpleasant characters on there. I would rather, however, that their unpleasantness is there for all to see and argue against than pretend they don’t exist just because I’m not listening.


    • Guest Who says:


      There are more unpleasant characters on the MSM.

      Global News just ‘accused of’ Donald Trump of inciting ‘the violence’.

      That is a lie. And unpleasant one. I don’t want they deplatformed, but held to account.

      Sure as hell OFCOM won’t do it.


    • StewGreen says:

      Parler is now off completely
      That to me is a bit strange.
      Cos it would be easy enough to point it’s address at any old server
      .. without running the whole Parler system, it could just have a landing page, with a small status report.


      • tomo says:

        As I commented earlier – there is some shenanigans going on at a network level with routing being blocked around the place – poisoning DNS look-ups is also an obvious tactic that Google in particular are able to implement with little evidence …

        Try some traceroutes… I’m seeing packets being dropped a couple of hops short. Try proxies and VPN.


  28. Darcy3 says:

    “Did Trump Tell Supporters to Storm US Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021?”


    Here’s what the president said hours before right-wing extremists breached the Capitol.


  29. Darcy3 says:

    One problem (as I see it) is Trump is one who talks often from the heart, unlike career politicians, and so often exercises a poor choice of words (or rather ill-considered maybe) for someone with such influence.

    Tommy Robinson did himself no favours also.

    As I have outlined above yesterday, those of us from the private sector, used the getting things done, can become extremely frustrated with public “servants” and their intransigence at times.

    Especially someone like Trump who is used to negotiating from a position of much more strength.

    But he should, in my opinion, have been much more aware of those watching and waiting and noting all down to use against him, even in internal meetings that become “leaked” he played into their hands too many times.

    It will be the same for those who continue on Twitter and other platforms, whilst the left and islamists continue to spew threats, bile and hate with apparent impunity, many of us will have to choose words carefully in future, a slight ambiguity is a useful tool.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Agreed about ambiguity. I use it frequently to make a point whilst not saying it directly.

      Trump’s use of words was undoubtedly unwise at times, but he wouldn’t have been who he was if he used politicians’ safe language.


    • JohnC says:

      While what you say is true, I think the MSM would have twisted whatever Trump said with their scandalous selective out-of-context quotations and subversive editing (BBC especially).
      The Left were enraged with hate after the Right rose up with Brexit and Trump. Now they are like spiteful brats with their fists clenched trying to stamp on ants.


  30. AsISeeIt says:

    ‘Finally some good news’ proffers the Daily Star this morning: ‘Jabs for all’ is the notion celebrated.

    ‘The cavalry is here! EVERY adult to be given vaccine by the autumn’ – the word in the headline is given, not offered we note.

    Jerry Lawton, the Star’s chief crime correspondent no less, takes the byline credit and calms down a little: ‘All adults will be offered a life-saving Covid jab…’ – perhaps it is asking too much for the tabloid Star to notice that fine distinction in their flush of excitment over an innoculation that will apparently make us all but immortal when the entire UK adult population were otherwise at death’s door.

    Way back in the days when I was knee high to a Morris Minor, I recall my mother presented with the joy of the dawn of a new week would sing along to some appropriate popular ditty to help paas the time whilst she got on with the housework.

    “Today’s Monday, today’s Monday, Monday is washing day, is everybody ‘appy? You betcha life we are” [The Scaffold 1966]

    Labour saving devices and feminism have greatly reduced the drudgery of the female domestic existence releasing many women into the workforce – and now lockdowns have left many at a loose end.

    Monday therefore appears to be pin ups for the ladies day.

    The frontpage of the Telegraph delivers male crumpet in the form of Joe Wicks. Armed with a name that might well serve him as a porno moniker, Joe does virtual PE lessons on You Tube: ‘Get your PE kit on… Joe’s back’

    From broadsheet bit of rough – the bored suburban middle class stereotype housewife always seemed to be attracted to her karate or tennis instructor type…

    To the freebie Metro that today features the suave tuxedoed Regé-Jean Page – who beneath the sophisticated veneer looks as though he’s also a bodice-ripper: ‘From TV’s Bridgerton to Bond?’

    ‘Suited and mooted’, ‘Netflix’s hottie could soon have a licence to thrill on the big screen’ – photo credits to Getty/Splashnews.co

    ‘Regé-Jean Page is the latest to be tipped to replace Daniel Craig as the next 00’

    ‘City swingers’ in the FT. Clam down, this is the pink financial banging on about the woes of Brexit yet again: ‘Sectors most at risk in post-Brexit London’

    Seriously, if Brexit is still your main economic fear you must have been living in a cave these last ten months.

    ‘What next for your finances? Taxing times ahead for your cash in lockdown’ – seems the Daily Express is on the money.

    The Daily Mirror makes some odd editorial choices: ‘Sex drugs rock n roll scandals in the 60s’ ‘Free pullout’ – is this feature fulfilling the function of a newspaper or is it a reminiscence puzzle to prompt the brains of the vaguely senile?

    The Mirror further attempts to excite the jaded, or should that be the addled, with their: ‘Maddie exclusive. Cops push to get last piece of jigsaw’ – I’m none too sure the cops have even the first piece of the Madeleine McCann disappearence jigsaw.

    ‘Care homes we’ve been betrayed over jabs’ – seems the Daily Mail have an ‘Investigations Unit’ – surely that should be every journalist, apart from the agony aunt and the old dear on the horoscopes?

    ‘Despite promises, just one in ten vulnerable residents has been given the Covid vaccine’ – that does seem odd.

    Kudos to the Metro for noticing that despite: ‘Covidiots goad cops’ on their frontpage splash, tucked away on page seven we have an everyday life goes on story: ‘103 migrants brave big freeze to cross channel’ (despite Brexit?) One dreads to think how many next summer may bring? “Hey, Abdul, there’s free vaccines over there”


  31. Sluff says:

    Not really BBC
    Its uncanny.
    On the previous thread we discussed the proposition that the NHS wants to keep all of the vaccination programme to itself, in the particular case by creating an entirely new distribution function from scratch and for which they can claim credit, rather than use what is there already (e.g. my personalised calendar, ordered on Friday, arrived at 8am this morning from Belgium, I having never ordered with them before)

    Today there is much coverage of the so-called training needed to be a vaccinator.
    First up we had the 21 forms needed, such as level 1 training in ‘preventing radicalisation’, ‘conflict resolution’ and of course ‘equality, diversity, and human rights’. JustRemainin Webb had the usually good Nadim Zahawi on Toady and he asked about this but let him off the hook when Zahawi played the ‘straw man’ technique and thus avoided justifying the ‘safeguarding children’ course for vaccinating the priority 80 year olds. Pathetic. Opportunity missed.

    Next we have a simple fact. There are 11,000 pharmacies in this country. They are allowed to administer the flu jab, and do. Why not covid? If each pharmacy did just 3 jabs per hour that would be 1 million a week. Problem solved. And no 45 minute drives needed for octagenarians as with the glossy high profile mass vaccination centres

    The nationalised monster that is the ‘world class ‘ NHS wants to control everything. The irony of course is that they complain about the wards being full of covid patients yet it is their their intransigence, bureaucracy, political correctness, and lack of imagination that is directly responsible for slowing down the very solution to their, and our, problems.


    • Darcy3 says:

      I note no forms about tackling obesity, lest those filling them out use words like “pot” kettle” and “black”


    • Deborah says:

      My concern about local pharmacies delivering jabs is whether some might sell them to the highest bidders, whether here or abroad.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Sluff, does that ‘training needed to be a vaccinator’ include doing what the trained nurse was doing in injecting the first person to receive a Covid vaccine in the UK? No medical gloves, no swab, in the wrong arm for a right-handed person.*

      I learned how to do it by just watching a very efficient, trained, GP Practice Nurse do influenza injections. Simples.

      * I have now seen more than one variant of that ‘first UK injection’ photo which rather suggests it was a Public Relations stunt set up by a photographer who doesn’t know what he/she is doing and who has not asked what the innoculation protocols are.


    • Khaa2091 says:

      At the moment vaccine availability is the limiting step, rather than people to organise.


  32. LastChanceSaloon says:

    “Jimmy Carter: The story behind the Premier League’s first British Asian player”

    Brought into the UK by the Labour Party/
    To vote Socialist, multiple times, in multiple constituencies/
    Who Gang raped white children/
    Which was covered up by the Parasitic sector/
    Especially the BBC/

    Little Ruth Wilson (not her real name) was only 11 when she was first gang raped by Muslim Paedophiles.
    Ruth walked in front of a train when she was 14, no charges were brought against the rapists.

    The rapists fled to Pakistan, they were tipped off, by a Muslim police officer, doing his duty, and not
    to Queen and Country.

    This corruption, this forewarning of co-religionists, came as a great surprise, to nobody at all.

    Also a surprise, to nobody, were the nearly empty units, which contained, according to police records, ten of thousands of items.

    Items of of evidence, which were thrown over the wall during the night, collected by van drivers and dumped in landfill sites.

    Especially important evidence was handed to drivers and burnt.

    There was no evidence that this behaviour was linked to a particular group, actually there was evidence, which also disappeared.

    Hundreds of thousands of White children were, still are being, gang raped by members of this group. Also known as men with Norwegian names.

    None of which will ever be reported by the Communist BBC.
    The white hating, men hating, BBC.
    The worst enemy the UK has ever had.


  33. The WestWyvern says:

    Did anyone catch the 07.40 interview with the minister for covid jabs on Wireless R4 Toady ?

    Apparently the seven centres for vaccines will be operational 12hrs a day.

    Beeboid ask why not 24/7?

    Bluster, waffle and evasiveness.

    Beeboid asks if there is a limited amount of vaccine?

    Bluster, waffle and evasiveness.

    Beebiod asks if the red tape surrounding vaccine administration volunteers is sorted. Y’know NHS Child Protection protocols, vital when jabbing 80year olds, knowledge & training in the Terrorism Act…..

    Bluster, waffle and evasiveness, with some acknowledgement the rules have been ‘relaxed’ in some cases.

    I’ve said it before, if we are in a ‘war’ against this virus as Whitless keeps on mentioning, then the minimum is 24/7 deployment of the jabs and administration supporting it.

    But, nope not from these ejeets.

    They’d rather pass more rules banning YOU from doing anything it seems.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The failure to be clear about vaccine details should be resolved by the end of today ….. because the health Secretary is going to publish ‘vaccination for idiots ‘

      Which lays out priority groups , timetables and resources at the 5pm pantomime . I’m sure van tam will be asked about his curry ….
      Anyway – in addition – it sees that allegro Stratton – named after that wonderful British Leyland car – will not be doing White House system press briefings because they don’t want her to make cabinet ministers look like idiots . They can do that for themselves .

      I’m off to get the non essential popcorn ….

      As for allegro Stratton – I wonder if she got that name because she was conceived in that car ?


  34. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – a very deferential interview by JustRemainIn Webb

    Chris Witty was the interview person in the 8.10a.m. pole position slot and there were some notable things that arose from it, not least JustRemainIn Webb’s very gentle questions. Rumpole caught him leading the witness a couple of times and was on his feet to object to M’lud. M’lud was obviously a bit hard of hearing just like State Bench Judges in the USA.

    It was highly notable that there was no vox pop before the interview. That discontinued a recent BBC Radio 4 trend for when the sacrificial beast at 8.10 has been a Conservative Cabinet Minister or a Brexiteer or a City/Regional Mayor. I wonder why?

    It was also notable that Chris Witty appears out of his depth, yet at the moment with Vallance & the rest of SAGE, he is leading the country. He doesn’t know about the virus, especially the so-called ‘new’ variant. He ‘thinks’ which is a rich man’s form of guess. Justin, in full-on grovel mode did not bother to hold power to account as he usually does. I would have asked “How many virologists who have actually looked in microscopic detail at the new variant and all the other Covid viruses do you have on the SAGE Committee at present?”

    Whitty, and Webb with him, seemed at one point to only be concerned about ‘rule breaking’! It is our fault, the public’s fault, that the new Covid variant is rampant. Oh yeah? Aren’t you both members of that same public?

    Another notable point is that Chris Witty, like the PM, is pinning his faith in the vaccines despite the fact that they may not provide any protection against the new variant that has Witty so worried. No questions from Justin on that point, either, so on to the pointless sports report.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I saw that witless was due to tour the studios doing his grim reaper act . Perhaps the government it trying to work out how to tell us the new variation of virus needs a new vaccine – but is worried how we will react when this is confirmed …


    • Jagman84 says:

      I used to believe that the failure to produce a vaccine, for the Coronaviruses that contribute to the common cold, was down to the Pharmaceutical companies doing very nicely thankyou on over-the-counter remedies. I’m now minded to think that it’s because they do not work and a Lemsip (other brands are available) is sufficient for the vast majority of the population. Ditto for Influenza.


  35. Darcy3 says:

    I think it was Asterix where they explained how the Romans invaded, they noted the “British” tribes all put down their spears, parked their chariots and stopped for a tea break at 3pm – 3.30 so decided that was when they would attack.

    Whilst the “British” all sat there with their tea and biscuits commenting “oh I say, poor show”

    time Asterix was cancelled for race hate maybe

    and where are the demands for apologies and compensation from the Italians by the Iceni and Catevaullini descendants ?


    • Darcy3 says:

      Sod your aqueducts where’s me compo ?


      • Ronone1 says:

        Talking of aqueducts – racehorse trainer Eric Guillot is in racist hot water with New York Racing Association for renaming a horse he was running at Aqueduct Racetrack “Grape Soda”. Given the perceived racism of choc ices how long is there left for Ice Cream Soda.


    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      Tea? They drank hot water with just a little bit of milk in it as they said ‘je dis, je dis’ to each other (seriously, the jokes are better in the original French). It was the strange leaves from China that Panoramix the Druid thought might be useful that gave the Brits courage when they put them in their hot water.

      Ils sont fous, ces BBoids! 🙂


  36. Doobster78 says:

    Racist !!!! What about WHITE owned businesses ????

    Oh yeah, racism only ever works one way !!!!


  37. Laughing at Lefties says:

    I forgot to provide this info yesterday when I mentioned that the Insurrection Act has been signed by Trump over the weekend. Apologies if anyone else has mentioned this.

    The reason that Pelosi and Schumer are so desperate to get rid of Trump immediately even though he’s supposedly leaving in a few days is because during the infilitration of Antifa insurgents posing as Trump supporters on Wednesday, a number of spec-ops guys who had been undercover as Antifa and Black Lives Matter for several months used the opportunity to confiscate several laptops that had been left behind when these cowards evacuated the premises. These included Pelosi and Schumer’s laptops. Additionally, DNI John Ratcliffe’s report on foreign interference was delivered to congress AFTER they had fraudulently certified for Biden.

    In other words, Trump and the military let this whole thing play out to see who would actually defend the constitution. Trump is now completely bunkered down (which is common knowledge) and letting the military do what they need to in order to bring these traitors to justice. This is also why big tech has panicked and started censoring like never before, which has only exposed their lies about not censoring conservatives and has made several of them indictable for perjury since they testified under oath that they didn’t interfere with free speech.

    Incidentally, January 19th is National Popcorn Day. People on the inside keep referring to this whole thing as a movie, so I doubt this is a coincidence.

    Buckle up, completely ignore the MSM and enjoy the ride.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      I’d love to think you are right but where is the evidence he has signed the Insurrection Act? Many online have stated he has but how would they know?

      What is undeniable is that the fevered desire to kick him out before his term expires in a few days seems bizarre, unless they are desperate to stop him doing something. It smells of panic, but the MSM seem disinclined to ask.


      • Jagman84 says:

        I’m sure that President Trump would have announced it on Twitter, to give his opponents advance warning. Sadly, Twitter decided to silence him so it would not have been possible.


  38. Tabs says:

    Parler social network drops offline after Amazon pulls support

    Rory Cellan-Jones has an analysis at the bottom of the above article saying, “Parler has long been a home for what you might call untouchables, people who had been excluded from mainstream services for offences such as blatant racism or incitement to violence.

    During a brief excursion onto the site over the weekend, I observed plenty of examples of such behaviour, with users exhibiting vile anti-Semitism, displaying Nazi symbols such as the swastika and uttering incoherent threats against those they perceive to be enemies of America.”

    I’ve not seen anything like that on Parler for the 6 months I have been on it. This confirmation-bias piece from Rory shows us how he made his mind up first, then went on Parler and specifically searched for ‘right wing’ stuff and then labelled everyone on Parler as the Devil incarnate.


    • StewGreen says:

      “then went on Parler” seems much of such news comes from journos cutNpasting material that special interest groups have sent them ..rather than the journo doing their own research.

      You don’t jut fire up Parler and see “vile anti-Semitism” “Nazi symbols”, “threats”
      Threats are certainly banned on Parler ..there is a report button.


      • Roland Deschain says:

        I suspect it would have played out something like this.

        Intern at BBC News or other sympathetic activist sets up account. Posts something vile. Rings up Rory to say there’s a vile post. Rory then goes on to check and, lo and behold, finds it there before anyone has a chance to report.

        Any one of us could do the same on Twitter.


      • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

        Ah, so there is (was) a limit to freedom of speech then?


        • StewGreen says:

          @WWOTW yes of course Parler always obeys the law about illegal speech
          like incitement to violence
          like posting child porn etc.

          Why would you think it didn’t ?


    • DYKEVISIONS says:

      Tabs, if only a 1/4 of this is true it will be fun to watch but I will not hold my breath.

      BTW, it is very annoying/worrying when my Parler account has suddenly stopped working this morning as mentioned above.

      KGB chief Lavrentiy Beria would have approved, as he once said:

      ‘If we can effectively kill the national pride and patriotism of just one generation, we will have won that country. Therefore we must continue propaganda abroad to undermine the loyalty of citizens in general and of teen-agers in particular’

      Where can I rant now?


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      I caught some of R4’s TWATO today and it was, as expected, biased on this topic, with the warnings and condemnation being about Parler and “Fark Snooze” (think about that one for a few seconds!) rather than, shall we say, more familiar broadcasters nearer to home. I don’t know why I wasted my time, old habits die hard I suppose.


  39. StewGreen says:

    The difference to in how either sides of the US #political spectrum has reacted publicly to “incite” #protest over the last year


    • Doobster78 says:

      It makes my blood boil at a temperature hither to, unknown to man !!!!!!!!


      It’s not the fact they say things like this that gets me rattled, it’s the blatant HYPOCRISY of it all and the fact the BBC , MSM etc NEVER take them to task over it.

      Untouchable. Quite literally, untouchable !!!


  40. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    The pure nastiness of the ‘democrats’ (and now some bandwagon jumpers from the Republicans) is something to behold.
    How horrible is that pelosi woman, Hillary or various mayors.

    Do they think the (armed to the teeth) 70 odd million voters and other Republican supporters will just shrug their shoulders and say “oh well, fair do’s, let’s jolly well just get on with life” and simply fade away.
    If so I think they have a surprise coming.

    I’m angry about the lies and dirty tricks the ‘Democratic’ lot have been getting away with, unchallenged by 99% of the press and msm so I can’t imagine how proper Republican supporting Americans must be feeling.
    Why they haven’t reacted more than the few minor incidents and handbags we’ve been seeing.
    That was no riot. True, they shouldn’t have been in there but the crowd was probably the most well behaved ‘rioting’ crowd ever seen (apart from the antifa/blm troublemakers infiltrating the crowd trying to cause trouble.
    They even kept inside the roped tourist pathways in many of the pictures we saw on the tv.
    Any violence appeared to be aimed towards the demonstrators and the deaths were a bit suspicious (apart from the police(?) shooting of the girl for no apparent reason)

    I wonder if (when) the Republican supporters will react to this stolen election. I can’t see them just accepting it and going home.
    Good luck to them. (I suppose saying that is incitement to riot as per pelosi)


    • Synchronised says:

      Victor Davis Hanson’s book “The Case For Trump ” tells you all you need to know about why DJT had no hope of getting a second term. I was thinking that maybe he will run as an independent as Ross Perot did a few years ago. Of course the impeachment process is all designed to cut him off at the pass so that wouldn’t be a given but remember Perot did get nearly 19% of the popular vote. I just get the feeling he’s not going away before he makes life more awkward for the swamp


    • Blackwell says:

      ‘Do they think the (armed to the teeth) 70 odd million voters and other Republican supporters will just shrug their shoulders and say “oh well, fair do’s, let’s jolly well just get on with life” and simply fade away.’

      That’s what usually happens after you’ve lost an election. Even if its really, really hard for some of them to accept. Apparently they love their country though and are fans of democracy too (ahem).

      ‘That was no riot. True, they shouldn’t have been in there but the crowd was probably the most well behaved ‘rioting’ crowd ever seen (apart from the antifa/blm troublemakers infiltrating the crowd trying to cause trouble.
      They even kept inside the roped tourist pathways in many of the pictures we saw on the tv.
      Any violence appeared to be aimed towards the demonstrators and the deaths were a bit suspicious (apart from the police(?) shooting of the girl for no apparent reason)’.

      This is genuinely one of the funniest things I’ve read in a very long time. Thanks for that.
      I especially love the bit about them staying ‘inside the roped tourist pathway’.

      I may have murdered those people your honour, but I always give my mum a Christmas present!

      Not sure what was suspicious about the deaths, seem to have been natural causes, apart from the policeman murdered by Trump and his supporters, and the crazy
      Trump lady who learned a tough lesson.

      If you think the only violence was that aimed at protesters and was caused by antifa, then you genuinely are utterly deluded or have been in a coma for the last week.

      Oh, and the peaceful protesters beat a Trump supporting policeman and veteran to death with a fire extinguisher.

      Good luck to them??


      • Fedup2 says:

        But Blackwell – those who don’t like President Trump never accepted his election and spent his entire presidency fighting him – and the physical counting process wasn’t challenged of criticised ( I think )

        Yet when there is a widespread belief – evidence based or not – that the election was fraudulent – how do you think people will react . ?
        Getting bogged down in events in Washington does not take away the belief that their election was stolen . And for a country as ‘tooled up’ as America it is surprising there has not been more bloodshed – or will be more .

        By the way – having a pretty extreme filter against the MSM I haven’t seen what happened in Washington – but I do recall the huge rallies Mr Trump had – as well as the non campaign the democrats had … as well as those weird results which came in on election night ….

        A non politician non conformist like trump – which the swamp could never accept – is now replaced by an ancient career politician with failing health … business as usual .

        But I must ask – with Trump gone – who is the Left going to target – hate ? Is it the internet ? The opinions of people like me ? Am I to be extinguished along with sites like this ?

        What do you think ?


  41. Doobster78 says:

    Trump National stripped of 2022 US PGA Championship


    Extract – The PGA of America voted to terminate the agreement on Sunday.

    US President Donald Trump, who owns the course, has been accused by Democrats and some Republicans of encouraging last Wednesday’s riot in Congress.
    He DID NOT encourage the riots but don’t let that FACT get in the way !!!!!!

    Jesus wept, where the hell is this world heading.

    See above , Stews video for democrats inciting violence. That’s ok tho !!!!!!!


  42. StewGreen says:

    Gab already went through this thing where it’s server providers were blackmailed off hosting them a year ago.
    So they rebuilt, now they push even further, they’ve just launched their own Linux based phone to compete with Google Android, and Apple iPhone.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      I would be very interested in that when my iPhone 7 gives up the ghost. No doubt there would be a price to pay with banking apps not working but if it means throwing of the yoke of Big Tech I’m very much up for it.

      I’m sure I’m not alone in having become acutely aware in the past week how beholden I am to these unaccountable monsters.


  43. Sluff says:

    Here’s one to get you laughing.
    From the BBC’s patting itself on the back piece about its new education programmes.

    I quote ‘Experts who are helping include footballer Marcus Rashford….’

    What will he be teaching?
    ,How to influence gullible people using BAME publicity agencies?


  44. BRISSLES says:

    Anybody any idea what The Real John Woods is saying about whats happening over there ?


    • StewGreen says:

      James Woods had Twitter as the the only platform
      Then his account was suspended, then back
      Then someone deleted all his recent tweets
      Now the account is in private mode

      One of the deleted tweets.



  45. StewGreen says:

    Sargon’s podcast starts at 1pm Youtube
    “Carl and Callum discuss
    – the digital execution of Parler
    – the radicalisation of the left against the MAGA movement
    – Nancy Pelosi’s attempted coup”

    Sargon mentioned that today he has a special paywalled prog about Lin Wood the conspiracy guy mentioned above.


    • StewGreen says:

      He says that libmob are “inversing reality”
      as Kamalla Harris says ‘if these were BLM they would be tear gassed’
      ..em the MAGA people were tear gassed and one was shot dead,


  46. digg says:

    The BBC running a Bitesize GCE synopsis of Animal Farm by George Orwell….


    “The animals get fed up of their master, Farmer Jones, so they kick him out. Once they are free of the tyrant Jones, life on the farm is good for a while and there is hope for a happier future of less work, better education and more food. However, trouble brews as the pigs, Napoleon and Snowball, fight for the hearts and minds of the other animals on the farm. Napoleon seizes power by force and ends up exploiting the animals just as Farmer Jones had done. The novel ends with the pigs behaving and even dressing like the humans the animals tried to get rid of in the first place.”

    Maybe they don’t realise how prophetic this is in relation to whats going on in the USA Capitol Building right now?

    Personally I see Snowball as Biden and Napoleon as Pelosi, No prizes for guessing who Farmer Jones is!

    It will be interesting to see what comes to pass, Orwell had a knack of predicting the future accurately…. as in 1984 and the BBC for instance!


  47. tomo says:

    – the BBC is leading the charge to educate kids online ….?

    Geography fail?



  48. tomo says:

    It’s not like we weren’t warned 10+ years ago?

    Amazon removes 1984 from Kindle


  49. Tabs says:

    Lockdown Learning

    17 links to programmes, each with a photo, aimed at kids to learn.

    The first 9 photos have children in them which are:
    1. white girl
    2. Asian girl and Asian boy
    3. Asian boy
    4. white girl
    5. Asian girl
    6. 2 Asian girls
    7. 2 white kids and 1 black kid
    8. black girl
    9. black boy

    The others are photos of white adults but in BBC land all kids are non white.

    The last link is ‘Celebrity Supply Teacher’ featuring Geri Halliwell giving advice on creative writing. She says to get inspiration you “just need to look around” as she passes into her huge walled garden, then into her stable block to see her horses, then into a large field to feed her goats, then off to see the donkeys, a quick walk through her wild garden, then into the stone out house, then the orchard and finally take a seat by the walled garden.

    Come on kids, follow the BBC advice and take a walk around your 12 acre property to get inspired.

    What planet (or Ivory tower) are BBC staff on?


  50. Fedup2 says:

    I’ve been to Sainsbury’s . It wasn’t busy – but social distancing in NE London is not fashionable . There are lots of people out and about – more than the first lockdown . I think there is also quiet panic buying . …..

    ….. on the way back I caught a bit of Lady Brooke having a consensual chat with a friend – one James Harding . Familiar name – has beeb director of news .

    Any way – they played a game of out agreeing with each other .
    The subject ?

    The internet – throwing people off the social media sites with whom they don’t agree . Not even if it is non criminal . Mr Harding must be after a job on the West Coast where dead politicians go to make money , be unaccountable and get their revenge ….

    … my conclusion ? Sites like this – its’ days are numbered . The bubble wants to remove criticism – declare – you – dear reader – nasty and ‘a pedaller of misinformation “ ( see Blackwell above ) …..

    On the upside – I was ‘grown up ‘ before the internet and won’t ‘die ‘ without it – kidults and younger types might struggle … particularly getting banned from Amazon or punished in some other way ….

    … before the off switch came – they’d played a tape of Arnold swarztanigger comparing what happened in Washington to the nazi kristalnight …
    Enough said .


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