459 Responses to Weekend Thread 9 January 2021

  1. AsISeeIt says:

    It would seem the people of Britain are largely approving when it comes to the policy of locking down the healthy in order to protect the NHS from a virus. One could argue about the science, or for that matter the logic of protecting our health services from an illness, but one thing is unaurguably true – this policy is economically expensive.

    The first of the inevitable tax increases is looming into view: ‘Sir Keir Starmer It’s absurd to hike up council tax at this time’ (Sunday Telegraph) – I’m not sure that the notion of absudity as a counter argument does justice to the supposedly forensic mind of the Labour leader (let’s excuse it as a sound bite) and with government deficits soaring upward like a diwali rocket it would seem the time to raise revenues is rather overdue. But we’ll also excuse Starmer here. I’m sure he’s written some well reasoned and not at all opportunistic article in the Telegraph. Oh yes, don’t raise tax locally, that’s absurd – have central government pay up instead because they harvest the magic money tree. His mate, little man Khan, Mayor of London, will I’m sure be resisting every local tax increase with all his might. (sarc – as the youngsters tend to text)

    So where have lockdown policies got us?

    The Observer would wish to distract us with the velvet (or should that be the rubber…) glove: ‘Doctors raise alarm as Covid strikes down NHS workforce’

    The Telegraph wields the iron fist: ‘Police to issue fines after one warning’ – not imprisonment, mind you. I doubt many of these restrictions would be upheld in court as lawful, and anyway it’s the cash the authorities are short of.

    At this point, were one to want to be satirical, one could speculate how many covid fines issued by Priti’s boot boys it would take to pay for an illegal Channel crossing migrant to be fed and clothed for a week?

    The Observer reckons its readers – who as we know from their circulation figures are a rather small and niche group – want to read ever more derogatory screeds about Donald Trump.

    “Donald Trump ate my hamster” (just kidding)

    The Daily Star on Sunday meanwhile also knows its audience: ‘SAS v UFO Special forces training for battles with aliens’

    Which, to be fair, is not that far from current reality in a week when Boris called in the army to fight the supposed mutant virus.

    Well what else could he do when all our doctors and nurses have thrown a sickie: ‘Service in crisis with 46,000 ill – BMA chief. Calls grow for tough new lockdown steps’ (Observer)

    Quite what further lockdown measures one dreads to think.

    Another lifting of the upwardly elastic Tier system to five and I’m likely to go banging on the gates at Wormwood Scubs, shouting let me in.

    I’m certain they’ve a full-sized ping-pong table in there which I don’t have and they don’t need to do their own shopping.

    Having to listen to all the tedious Wahhabi preaching going on morning, noon and night seems a small price to pay for convenient ease of availabilty of the recreational drugs.

    I mean for goodness sake, people in their eighties and nineties are dying in large numbers! People with life-threatening conditions are passing away every day! It’s a crisis for and of humanity.

    The Sunday People wins the prize for headline of the week: ‘Death is all around us.. so follow the rules’

    I don’t think that is a direct quote from the opening passage of a psychopathic child kidnapper’s note to distraught parents. Much less the latest decoded cipher message from the Zodiac Killer (there’s one for classic crime fans).

    However, had the Sunday People’s headline appeared on their frontpage constructed from randomly chosen typeface letters cut from various of its newspaper rivals, I would not have been much further disturbed. In fact, for a chap of my vintage the first thought on seeing such a thing would inevitably be – never mind the bollocks.

    Speaking of British vulgarity in the face of adversity, I’m considering staging a mass participation weekly event to rival clap for heroes. It’s called fart for Boris. Every Monday morning at 8 o’clock I suggest we all concentrate in our back passages and enthusiatically express our appreciation. Just me then?

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    • JimS says:

      “Every Monday morning at 8 o’clock I suggest we all concentrate in our back passages and enthusiatically express our appreciation. Just me then?”

      C’mon man! Think about the planet!

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      • Guest Who says:

        There was a piece of litter stuck in a tree on our walk today.

        A4. An XR woe poster.

        I could read it all as it was laminated both sides.

        Ironically.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Guest, “laminated” – no good for use in the smallest room in the house then?

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  2. Fedup2 says:

    Asiseeit
    Your suggestion in the final paragraph opens up a whole new area of BBC ‘all in it together ‘ coverage – inviting various ‘celebrities ‘ to take part – and maybe even compete ….

    … I see that the BBC ‘adverts ‘ have replaced socialist groupings of ‘clubs’ with individuals ‘doing things ‘ such as stirring a cup of tea .. perhaps there is a place for your suggested activity there …?

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    • Sluff says:

      Reference little man Khan.

      He’s made it as hard as possible to use a car in London, currently the safest form of transport. So people have to use buses, trains, and tube. The most dangerous forms of transport, currently.

      He’s removed road capacity and introduced cycle lanes. Guess what? These are non too popular during the freezing weeks of January.

      Khan is directly responsible for exacerbating the current London-based mass outbreak.

      And what do the BBC have to say about this?
      Absolutely nothing. Naturally.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        The BBC are really on-side with Socialism, are they not Sluff? I wonder how the latest Starmer ‘foot in the mouth’ will be reported by the BBC. Will it be fact checked by Marianna? Fact checked to discover Council Tax is a Labour approved tax, delivered at the point of riotous rebellion by Socialists to the far less expensive (to the taxpayer) Community Charge.

        Will the BBC remember the Council Tax rebels, some of whom went to prison because they could not afford the Council Tax, at the start of the 21st Century when Gordon Brown, the then Labour Chancellor, imposed hefty increases in Council Tax? I am almost totally certain they will not.

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        • Sluff says:

          OT
          I was always in favour of the Poll Tax, just as I am in favour that everyone should pay income tax.

          In both cases it can be related to the ability to pay, with lower rates.

          The crucial thing is that everyone should have skin in the game. No representation without taxation.

          Because it easy to vote for the party promising to spend the most on you when you are not required to pick up the tab.

          PS the average taxpayer funded contribution to the Local Government pension scheme is up to 19% of salary. A figure mysteriously hidden from every council leaflet ever produced, not easy to find online. Employee contributions for most are 6% or less.

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          • JimS says:

            Agreed, and probably most general benefits too, like child allowances.

            No need to do ‘means testing’ as the ‘rich’ pay it back in tax anyway. It does mean too that the ‘rich’ get to know what their poorer fellows get paid rather just an impression from whatever political party they follow.

            Actually I wouldn’t have child allowances, I would have transferable tax allowances so that, say, a single earning parent could pick up spouse’s and childrens’ allowances to set against personal tax.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Sluff, the Community Charge or Poll Tax was a great idea that was ruined by Margaret Thatcher. I’m in favour of massive tax reform.

            I suggest the following:
            – Scrapping all indirect, stealth and hidden taxes. They don’t work during Pandemics.
            Reducing our vast tax code to only a handful of taxes:
            – A Community Charge for Local Authorities related to ability to pay
            – Income Tax – ditto – but with everyone having the same basic allowance; derive income in UK then you pay IT here
            – Corporation Tax (IT for business, preferably at same rate as IT)
            – Capital Gains Tax with an allowance for everyone (preferably set at the same level as IT)
            – Value Added Tax or Sales Tax to be variable to encourage/support demand or reign in/restrict personal expenditure
            – Financial export tax (to keep capital in the UK) – really only to stop massive off-shoring (might be redundant as once tax reforms accomplished no-one will want to move out of UK)
            – Inheritance Tax with substantial allowance for everyone.

            Have I missed anything?

            To get to this position after the Pandemic it will be necessary to increase taxes overall and keep the current progressive higher rates of IT. Eventually, it ought to be possible to reach a single rate for IT so that everyone pays at the same rate. Central Government and Local Authorities would not be allowed to levy extra charges for things like Passports, Registrations, parking, Leisure Centres. It would all be funded directly and responsible Civil Servants, central and local, would have to be .. er, well, …. responsible for a change and work within their budgets.

            Ideally, the State would provide free education to tertiary, first degree level, free healthcare including dental, eye and foot care. The health care might require a mixed economy with an insurance payment but modelled more on the French system than the US system.

            I’m sure I have missed something and it will not work.

            The BBC will be hunting through Schedules A to F to find that special case of scrapping Case II of Schedule M will result in the habitat of the lesser spotted, big-eared vole coming under threat and will trail endless spokespersons across Farming Today, the TOADY programme and Ewan Yores on radio and Panorama on TV to say why we should keep the old tax system, including the TV Licence Fee.

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  3. Doobster78 says:

    So it looks like the Lefties are going to get their wish and shut down Parler .

    Reason being, they have found 89 posts inciting violence !!!!!

    89 !!!!!!

    So, all the virtue signalling big companies won’t touch it.

    Have they ever seen the pure bile, the unfettered hatred that the Lefties tweet on Twitter ???????

    DISGUSTING. Just DISGUSTING.

    These are dark, scary times of lefty censorship .

    It seems to be gathering pace at a alarming rate 😢

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    • Oaknash says:

      “It seems to be gathering pace at a alarming rate” You are right there Doobster. It would have happened anyway but the fact that the Orange Man transferred over to it made it No1 target.
      Other events are also moving at a fast pace apparently pictures of Hunter Biden allegedly with children are now being downloaded
      over the web covered by Salty Cracker
      https://odysee.com/@SaltyCracker:a/laptop:6

      This could well mean the end for Biden before he even started and allow the equally dangerous and unelectable Kamala Harris to move swiftly into his shoes. If this is true and the BBC covers it – it will be for that reason.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Great… just as I am not getting to grips with it yet.

      The ‘by association’ bit is a bbc mainstay, if honoured as you say only in being a selective and thorough as Marianna checking something.

      Folk are noticing the dual standards gradually.

      But sooo slowly, given platform dominances.

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    • Dobyns says:

      Amazon removing Parler from their servers

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  4. JohnC says:

    I sometimes wonder wtf goes on in the heads of people who work at the BBC.
    Yesterday (during my painting), it had a report about the Indonesian plane which crashed into the sea. Jonathan ‘Dick’ Head (the grubby, far-Left SE Asia correspondent who I have many more stories about) told us how it was last detected at only 250 feet and said it dramatically as if that figure was somehow sinister and significant.
    If it crashed, of course it went through 250 feet.
    Reporting by idiots for other idiots.

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    • Sluff says:

      The Dambusters raid was at 60 feet.

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    • Guest Who says:

      The phrase ‘up to’ is also very popular with the bbc.

      Covering everything from zero to what they feel is impressive.

      I must say I may not be opting short haul Boeings in the future.

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    • G says:

      John,
      For my time living there, I was amazed at how many planes came down – regularly and non reported certainly on World Service which I could only get, then, on my Sony SSB radio for a couple of hours a day.
      Some years ago, I joined a new GP Surgery and I had to go through a ‘chat’ with a GP beforehand. I told him about a stone in the kidney I’d developed in KSA and so on. He became very interested in my time in Indonesia as he had, in younger years, been a volunteer there with some sort of international outfit. Conversation strayed to the safety of dom flights. He related the story of he and a colleague being intrigued with a permanent marker line and some writing on one of the wings they could see. They wrote the word down and when with an Indonesian counterpart, asked him what it said. “CRACK” apparently.

      I’ll say no more. Certainly about my internal flights on Merpati Airlines.

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  5. Jack in the Green says:

    Apparently some sort of tug of love between ITV and BBC over Bradley Walsh has led to unanimous cries of : For the sake of God don’t do it Bradders! Don’t join the BBC, they’ll ruin you! Oh dear me, it seems this site’s “visceral hatred” has spread to the masses. Looks like old bill is going to have a fine old time arresting us all. I expect the CPS’s printers are working overtime to cope with all the warrants.Still, they should be working ok, after all they are hardly ever used for actual crime like murder, rape, terrorism etc. Better go, I can hear sirens and the clatter of size 16s.

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  6. Fedup2 says:

    Not the BBC – but I keep an eye on the number of killings in London each year – only one double killing last night – female killed 2 males in ilford – a very diverse area – no details so your prejudices should let you make an educated guess at the rest .

    Having studied criminology – a subject highly contaminated by woke victimhood – the changes in reported crime during current mass house arrest could be instructive ….

    … fraud relating to covid vaccination and impersonation of NHS staff will get an uptick – as well as ‘queue jumpers ‘ to get the vaccine – with reports already of how people have cheated the system by getting ‘left over ‘ vaccines at the end of the day …

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    • Sluff says:

      Blowing my own trumpet but weeks ago I wrote that it would be more important for the wokes leading us to throw surplus vaccine down the toilet than to give it out to anyone ‘queue-jumping’ lower down the priority list. And so it is proving.

      As I explained, based on experience of handling customer order backlogs, it is much more efficient to take from tiers simultaneously, and prioritise by varying the proportions. Then a problem in one tier (not enough volunteers on a particular day) can be infilled with another.

      But the vaccine prioritisation committee only meet on the third Wednesday of the month, and none of the politicians, civil servants, and the all-important doctors and nurses have any experience of anything so mundane as production and logistics.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Blimey… who was she? That one from Netflix?

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  7. The WestWyvern says:

    Fed, I see we were visited by a creature of the night in the wee small hours. Goes by the name of ‘Blackwell’ and seems adept at cut’n’paste. Could be a reincarnation of Maxincontinency, Puke or the nutcase that lives in a forest. Could also be a member of the so called 77 Brigade, a social media disenformation unit operated allegedly by British Army Security and Intellegence service, with operatives providing deliberate and false narratives to that what people actual see, hear and read with their own eyes….. Interesting times.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Keep them all on the books.

      The calibre of their efforts are so dire it can only help any visiting to see how they are given an opportunity to make their cause(s) look even more lost in association than ever.

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    • StewGreen says:

      so Cross & Blackwell, then ?

      He/She did write long posts, which showed they are thinking .
      Probably some poor person brainwashed by teachers & Guardianland etc.
      … who will come over to our side after the more reading & thinking they do.

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  8. infoquest says:

    Last year I cancelled my TV licence. I had many objections, including paying for propaganda. I used to love radio – I had a delivery job back in my twenties and tried to time drops so that the afternoon play was interrupted as little as possible. Towards the end of last year I found that the only reliably bearable programme was Ken Bruce. Then he went on holiday and for the last week or so I’ve been driving round in silence (yes, all I’ve got in the car is an FM radio). When in my office I used to listen to JHB on talkRadio – I liked the way she challenged the lockdown zealots – but then her TDS kicked in and I switched off. I’ve subscribed to The Sunday Times since forever, making it last right through to the following Saturday. Last Sunday I cancelled that subscription. I had to ring them to do so. The chap on the other end said that the ST had fantastic investigative journalists. I said that I wasn’t interested in Greta’s birthday (on the front page) and that if they had such wonderful investigative journalists, why, on the eve of a third lockdown, was there no mention that since the start of Covid there had only been 388 deaths of people in England aged under 60 with no underlying health conditions. Today the ST has a two-page spread on Neil Fergusson and a piece on how the NHS needs to reshape itself for the next pandemic (nothing about how the unions / doctors make it so hard to increase the staff numbers; nothing about going back to single-storey isolation hospitals; nothing about staffing agencies fleecing the public purse run by consultants). I’ve come to the realisation that my main source of succour and news is this site. Does this mean that I’ve shrunk into an echo chamber, or am I just wanting to know that I am not alone and that there are still sane people in this mad world? As you know, I’m a swabber. One of the questions I have to ask is about physical contact [in the last week]. Yesterday a lady I was seeing broke down in tears, telling me she’d not had physical contact with anyone. How the hell do you console someone who is so low? Telling them they are not alone? (I don’t think so). Driving around in silence I sometimes think of what I would say if I got stopped by the plod. “Where do you think you’re going?” “I’m meeting some friends for a drink and then we’re going to the pictures.” Oh well, I’m off back out there now, but thank you for being there and let’s hope this site doesn’t get shut down. P.S. – any ideas for a replacement Sunday paper?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Infoquest
      Yes there is a danger of ‘echo chamber ‘ – but I’d refute that because you had the wisdom to find this site as well as recognise the danger .

      As for consoling some one – physically you just can’t . But I take consolation from knowing that nothing stays the same – but time is the challenge . We face maybe 2 months minimum of total control – so it is vital to make the most of it and adapt . The days are getting a bit longer now if only a bit .

      As for someone ‘feeling low ‘- I reckon talking helps -me ven if there is a requirement to listed to repeated comments or fixation on certain issues – that’s a bit of an art – I’ve been on both sides of that table ..

      As for newspapers – I swore I’d never pay to go behind a pay wall and when my current DT £4 a month offer ends I’m gone as it’s not Right Wing enough for me . So instead I can easily get lost on the net .

      I’m quite involved in dementia research so help out in projects such as memory and coordination testing each day to keep the head working . Online gaming helps keep the mind occupied too .

      Hope this helps …

      By the way – had to laugh – turned on wireless R5 – beeboid I chatting with – Chris ? Packham – switched over R4 – a chap on desert island discs ? No ! Ah – but it turns up he is some coloured chap talking race -What’s new ? Off – back to streaming ….

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      • Banania says:

        The DT: the same with me. What I can almost guarantee is that when you cancel your subscription you will be offered an extension on the same terms. It has just happened to me again, although I have already been extended once.

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    • 7Clubs says:

      Try the monthly magazine ‘The Critic’ or the website ‘Quilette.
      I like the website ‘Conservative Woman’ but unlike the above it is also an echo chamber

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      • Up2snuff says:

        7C, The Conservative Woman w-s has more people who are willing to question and debate, disagree and make-up and it also has more trolls who do engage, they don’t just post and run away.

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    • Oaknash says:

      Infoquest – I too like Hartly Brewers style of questioning but like you I find her Trump Derangement syndrome quite ridiculous. I expect this is easier for her because she is a bright woman and Trumps vulgarian “Pusseygate” remarks would not have gone down too well. However I wonder if she changes her view if it is confirmed that big Tech and the MSM suppressed the Hunter Biden story about alleged paedo activities.
      I had to listen to a lecture from the bland and vanilla Ian Collins last week that all of us who think Trump was cheated are guilty of “Confirmation Bias” and only listen to our own favoured news sources. I am yet to hear a reasonable explanation as to what was going on with the film where vote counters were sent home and new ballot boxes suddenly appeared and the remaining staff appeared to scan the same votes , multiple times. – The MSM just does not want to talk about it.
      I expect Ian Collins has his eye on being the “main man” on Talk Radio certainly he will never get it if he encouraged independant thought and views

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  9. theisland says:

    This is worth a watch.
    Ep. 168 — Thoughts on the Current State of Our Nation by Dennis Prager

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  10. StewGreen says:

    TalkRadio becoming CuckRadio, CastratedRadio
    after last week’s warning from YouTube

    Here is Patrick Christy’s new take on Trump

    Here he was standing
    in front of a couple of thousand weirdos,
    several of whom were dressed as bears

    What BS
    Where is the photo of all these people” dressed as bears” ?

    Looks like Christy has has seen the school bully gang bullying the orange haired kid, and has joined in so he doesn’t get picked on himself.

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    • StewGreen says:

      By Sunday O’Sullivan had toned it down a touch
      saying Wednesday’s big story was not the Capitol
      but rather the way Trump had screwed up Georgia and thus let the Dems get Senate control
      Republicans Overseas guy Greg Swenson played along with this
      but still said there were main election irregularities to consider
      Both agreed that if Covid hadn’t have come then Trump would have won
      Swenson says Trump failed at the first debate
      His take was the Capital event means an end to Trump being an opposition voice against Biden and that is good cos now the Republican Party can move on.
      Interesting so those Rep politicians who had already given up on recounting the votes were never going to defend Trump after Wednesday morning
      and for them portraying Wednesday afternoon’s march as a disaster and chucking Trump under the bus works well.

      Both laid into Pelosi
      “The 25th amendment isn’t for taking away power from as serving president.
      It’s from the JFK situation, when the voted president is incapacitated.”

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    • Banania says:

      What an unpleasant little fellow, and so pleased with himself.

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  11. theisland says:

    The bBC ‘educates’ our children. Impartially of course.
    SHUT IT DOWN NOW

    and
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/55608735

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  12. StewGreen says:

    What’s the phase ?
    People have mentioned “gaslighting”
    where you do things to someone to make them feel that they have lost their own sanity.
    But there must be a phrase for what the media is doing now
    .. ie giving a false narrative that the Capitol event of a few dozen people walking around the building after they were let in by police
    whilst at another entrance some nutters were braking windows and violently pushing against police
    all of which was over with in 2.5 hours
    ..counts as “insurrection” “attempted coup” the biggest riot of the past year
    and using it to build this huge outrage bus.
    When there have been many many actual riots and actual deaths throughout the year. Particularly in Portland Oregon etc.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I have real trouble with the language now ‘bot ‘ ‘gaslighting ‘ – I can’t remember what that means …. there was a word used a bit as a term of insult adapted from a type of pork meat -which – thankfully has fallen into neglect and been replaced with ‘fascist ‘ which has a much more vicious violent tang to it –

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Some media presenters have remained more based

    A Fox News presenter BEFORE the Capitol protests

    Andrew Neil after

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  14. Foscari says:

    As a bookmaker I thought of running a book on who
    will be the next senior presenter for Match of the Day
    when BIG BROTHER at the diversity department decides
    that Gary Lineker is not diverse enough.
    There are a plethora of lady sports presenters at the BBC
    and Gabby Logan would be my favourite . But does she
    tick enough boxes? In my opinion Alex Scott the new star
    of the BBC’S sports department could well give Gabby a
    good run for her money . And of course she does tick
    more boxes than the daughter of Terry Yorath the ex Leeds,
    Spurs and Welsh international.
    The only male candidate I can think of who stand a chance
    against the women ,is Jermaine Jenus.. Jenus is climbing the
    greasy pole of success at the BBC very rapidly. It seems a longtime now that whilst being a commentator and pundit
    on the Ajax- Tottenham Champions League semi final , he
    kept on saying , when asked for his opinion ” something’s
    happening , something’s happening.
    To be honest he was very exited being an ex Spurs player
    when Spurs started to recover from their lost cause. By the
    end of the game his fellow commentator when asking
    for Jemaine’s opinion , Jenas said nothing. And Ian Darke told
    us that Jermaine was lost for words. Which isn’t the best
    advertisement for a top notch presenter.
    But Jenas has improved and sits very comfortably next to ,or
    six feet away from Alex Jones on the “One Show ”
    BUT wait I am pretty sure that either one or other of Alex
    Scott or Jermaine Jenus will get to be the host of ” A Question
    of Sport” after Sue Barker, Matt Dawson and Phil Tufnell
    got the sack. Do any of you know why?
    Of course our two stars could be captains of the opposing
    teams , with some other box ticker as presenter. Do you
    know what I don’t think I will lay odds on it.

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  15. Dover Sentry says:

    Word on the street is that Biden’s son will be arrested tomorrow.

    We can but hope!

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  16. 7Clubs says:

    I would have thought Dion Dublin was the primary Black Male candidate .He has presented popular non-football tv programmes because has a likable tv presence.He did though disgracely say recently anybody who opposed BLM was a ‘racist’ but that will hardly reduce his chances with the current BBC establishment .
    Any of the white female sports presenters would be better than the new generation of white male sports presenters.The females are not only attractive but often very conscientious about doing their homework.Plenty of the white males are as lazy as Boris Johnson about doing detail beforehand.
    Sky Sports Racing is an exception and the females on it are terrific .They have real personalities,know their stuff and are full of enthusiasm.
    If you are a bookmaker recommend you read a recent book on the gambling industry ‘Vicious Games’ by Rebbeca Cassidy.Like most quite shrewd punters I have had most of my sports betting accounts closed down in recent years despite rarely ever betting to win no more than £200 in a single stake and the book explains why

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    • Fedup2 says:

      BBC has a thing about ‘the first this and the first that ‘- so I’d put my money – if I cared – on a coloured girl getting the job – preferably with a disability such as a st st stutter .

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Absolutely loathe with a passion reality tv – slebs version or not, BUT I do enjoy those where the public have a skill ie Portrait/landscape artist, Sewing Bee, and Pottery throw down – which begins tonight, and of course there is a new judge………………. well, you know the rest.

        I’ve also noticed that aside from white males being non-existent now from advertisements, white children have disappeared, in favour of mixed race kids. When WILL the backlash start.

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    • Foscari says:

      7Clubs-Ditto-I started my football based bookmaking business at
      the same time as Bet 365. The big difference between my
      Eurobet business and them was that Denise Coates and
      the rest of her team knew not to take bets from the likes
      of you and me. And if they did take a few quid it was worth it
      for them to know that their odds may be wrong.By the
      way 7clubs and that’s a coincidence I was just playing bridge
      on line and my robot partner bid 7 clubs after I had gone
      too far with my bidding I went two off.
      Newport to spring a “surprise” today against a Brighton
      side with relegation on their minds and playing Man City
      away on Wednesday and at Elland Rd to play Leeds next
      Saturday? I reckon Bloom and Potter will play with the
      boys than clean the toilets at the Amex stadium. And
      Tony Bloom? I could of employed the UK’S number one
      football gambler nearly 30 years ago. But that’s another
      story. Maybe I should write a book . My true stories are
      more strange than any fiction you could make up !

      e

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  17. pugnazious says:

    Daily Mail but very BBC…shows how the massive propaganda, brain-washing drive by the likes of the BBC have made grown, independent thinking adults into grovelling apologists who genuflect and take a knee in embarassment at being white and middle class…..a woman’s son, driving her Fiat 500, is aggressively stopped and handcuffed by the police….

    ‘Stopped and handcuffed – for driving a ‘woman’s car”

    ‘One lunchtime last week my 25-year-old son was driving our little Fiat 500 when he was pulled over by a flashing unmarked car.

    Out leapt four plainclothes officers, screaming at him to keep his hands where they could see them as he leant across to roll down the passenger window.

    They ordered him to get out of the vehicle immediately, handcuffed him and read out some kind of arrest jargon. None of them wore a mask as they shouted into his face up close and very personal. ‘Where have you been? Where are you going? Whose car is this?’’

    You might be outraged at this police aggression and intimidation…but I’m sure you’re also thinking what I’m thinking…white youth…coppers…random and unjustified arrest….doesn’t it actually show what we all know….cops on the rampage aren’t racist they’re just on the rampage whatever colour you are.

    However….not what his mum thinks….she curiously manages to twist it around and suggest it must be so much worse for black youths…

    ‘…their response still seems wildly over-the-top and leads inevitably to a further thought. If this sort of random and totally unwarranted invasion can happen to a young white man from a well-off family, what must it be like for young black men in far less privileged positions?’

    I might suggest the arrest is actually a good thing for race relations….police are equally rude and aggressive to everyone…hurrah!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      pug, with everyone at home under the latest Lockdown, burglars cannot burgle. Plod doesn’t have enough to do right now (not that they investigate burglaries or do so very well, anyway) so they need to do things like this to justify their existence on the payroll. Then, back at base the form filling in and filing can be stretched to justify some overtime maybe.

      Cynical? Moi?

      I couldn’t possibly comment.

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      • pugnazious says:

        LOL….yeah…heard a cop representative on other day telling us how there just aren’t enough police available[due to ‘orrible tory austerity]…..seems way too many available if you’re caught drinking coffee in the middle of a field…..having a picnic apparently….so is a Scotch Egg a substantial meal now or what?

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    • StewGreen says:

      It’s the reporter quoting her own life
      ..so it might not even have happened at all,

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  18. Up2snuff says:

    Here’s an extreme peculiarity and one that might be truly notable. Has anyone on here seen inside a copy of today’s Observer? There’s nothing on the front page.

    Last night one of the internet news agencies (MSN or Yahoo, or possibly both) were reporting that in a poll done for the Observer today (no surprise what follows) a majority of Brits want Boris Johnson to resign as PM or be deposed by his Party’s 1922 Committee. I listened to the BBC R4 news at 7a.m. and 8a.m. and have just endured 30 minutes of Jonny Dymond at his ‘Dalekian’ worst at 1p.m.. No news of this Poll whatsoever. That is highly unusual. Perhaps the BBC’s TDS has got in the way of some significant UK news?

    The BBC have completely ignored that supposed poll result in the Observer. Perhaps it was FakeNews by MSN or YahooNews? Perhaps they were spoofed with some fake facts that they then passed on to others? If the Poll did exist and was genuine what does this say about the BBC?

    That they like the Socialist ‘Gulag’ aspects of our current PM but don’t like Brexit? Or that they think there might be more Socialism from a Conservative Prime Minister and that they may get their EU wish to rejoin? Or that they know that the Licence Fee and BBC hegemony is quite safe while Boris Johnson is PM? Or, possibly all three?

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    • pugnazious says:

      U2S…..yeah surprising the BBC doesn’t take the chance to snipe at their favourite target…however he is now the golden boy as he imposes draconian lockdowns that the BBC loves for its own reasons….but nothing to do with keeping the hateful brexit voting oldies alive of course [not joking…Remainers wanted them to die off quickly in time for a second referendum].

      The Guardian is being disengenuous with its headline though….that 43% is all voters…..Boris is still OK with Tory voters…

      ‘ most Conservative voters (87%) think Johnson should stay on as leader, with just 7% thinking he should resign. ‘

      Die you brexit voting old bastards…die!!!…

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      • Up2snuff says:

        pug, did Yahoo or MSN get it wrong – that the Poll would be in tomorrow’s Guardian not the Observer?

        As for Aaronovitch he’s being a bit stupid – young people become old and may well eventually come to see that the EU is a waste of time and money.

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        • Banania says:

          And others grow older without growing wiser, like Aaronovitch. There’s no fool like an old fool.

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  19. pugnazious says:

    The BBC is undoubtedly aggrieved and somewhat put out that Brexit Britain [and the Jewish Israel lol] has managed to roll out a vaccination programme before anyone else. I can imagine the editorial meetings….’We need to counter this ‘British success’ narrative…so nationalistic….Hancock sounding so like Goebbels…..’

    Got to think that was the reasoning behind a little report on FOOC from Germany…
    ‘Deep among the frosty pines in Baden-Württemberg, a factory is manufacturing the industrial freezers that are needed to keep the supplies of Pfizer/BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine at extreme cold temperatures. ‘

    They smuggled in a little comment….’…the vaccine developed in Germany’…..hurrah for the EU!

    Of course Pfizer is an American company….so Hurrah for Trump’s leadership and drive to get a vaccine ‘before Christmas’…..no????

    BioNtech is German….but trials and development happened around the world and as Pfizer tells us the UK government was involved in accelerating the development process…

    ‘The UK government recently illustrated how the clinical trial process is being accelerated by running concurrent trials and large scale production’

    Pretty sure if it had been developed fully in the UK the BBC would be looking to find every international angle involved somewhere in that development before admitting through clenched teeth that it had been ‘developed in Britain’.

    Sometimes it’s just those sly little words that make all the difference and which slant a piece so very subtly….Take the BBC take on the ‘insurrection’ in the US….they called it an ‘Uprising’….really? A couple of hundred unarmed dudes pretty much walked into the building….little real violence other than pushing and shoving and left soon after with barely any violence in comparison to BLM and Antifa ‘protests’ which destroyed and terrorised so much of America.

    And what of the woman who was shot? Do White lives not matter? There’s been no shocked commentary from the BBC about that….she was unarmed and posing little to no threat it would seem….she was on one side of a barrier and was shot when she refused to step back…

    ‘A witness to the shooting told the TV station WUSA9 that “a number of police and Secret Service were saying, ‘get down, get back, get out of the way.’ She didn’t heed the call.” At that point, the witness said, “they shot her in the neck.”
    “As protesters were forcing their way toward the House Chamber where Members of Congress were sheltering in place, a sworn USCP employee discharged their service weapon, striking an adult female,” the United States Capitol Police wrote in a statement on Thursday. ‘

    Where are the cries of police brutality and excessive force as they shoot an unarmed woman who was not threatening them in anyway?

    You can see the scenario in this video….no way she could have got through the barrier and no evidence she even intended to……

    Trump made a big mistake in not taking down Twitter, at least a peg or two….and Google along with their fellow travellers…now they are using their power to attempt to shut down any where where conservative voices are heard….Parler is on the brink, CNN are trying to get Fox shut down, Breitbart is always a target and no doubt there is a long list of others to be reined in, censored or silenced.

    And the BBC will not speak out…in fact the BBC is part of the witch-hunt….urging Leveson to close down Murdoch’s media business as well as constant attacks on the Mail and Facebook and social media in general as it tries to control the ‘truth’ and make it its own….look at the Mail now….just a sad parody of the Guardian.

    The protestors tackled the wrong place….should be making their concerns known to Google, Twitter and Amazon HQs…..along with CNN and the BBC….the people who really control what can and can’t be said.

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    • JimS says:

      “And what of the woman who was shot? Do White lives not matter? There’s been no shocked commentary from the BBC about that….she was unarmed and posing little to no threat it would seem….she was on one side of a barrier and was shot when she refused to step back…”

      She was shot as she tried to climb through a broken window in a fire door. One would have thought that it would have been easy to grab a leg before she could get through. Standing just behind her were armed police(?) who might have been able to pull her down from behind, indeed one of those officers might easily have been shot too.

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    • Banania says:

      “…the Mail … just a sad parody of the Guardian.”
      As for the Telegraph…

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  20. The Mouse says:

    My apologies if this has already been mentioned. I wonder why Boris Johnson published this new guidance shortly after the announcement he made about the lockdown on Monday and did not bother to announce it at the time.

    The following from the Church Times –
    PLACES of worship are not required to close under a new national lockdown announced by the Prime Minister on Monday night. The lockdown, which will continue at least until February, temporarily replaces the previous four-tier system.

    In a special address to the nation in response to rapidly rising infection rates, hospital admissions, and deaths, Boris Johnson said that no one was to leave their homes except under special circumstances, which include work that cannot be done domestically, exercise, legal matters, and childcare. As before, the vulnerable are advised to shield at home.

    Both primary and secondary schools have been instructed to close until after the February half-term, and teachers are required to re-establish remote learning.

    The Prime Minister repeated his message from the first lockdown in March last year, saying that people must “stay at home, protect the NHS, and save lives”.

    Unlike in the first lockdown, however, NEW GUIDANCE PUBLISHED SHORTLY AFTER THE ANNOUNCEMENT STATES THAT PUBLIC WORSHIP IS EXEMPT FROM THE NEW RULES, making no change from the tier 4 regulations, previously the most severe. “You can leave home to attend or visit a place of worship for COMMUNAL WORSHIP, a funeral or event related to a death, a burial ground or a remembrance garden, or to attend a wedding ceremony.”

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Mouse – I might have mentioned – but my church has decided to close because both priests have caught covid doing Gods work. Masses are streamed again .

      The Hygiene arrangements in the church were quite something – every thing cleaned after mass – track and trace details – temperature checked – 4m separation – up from 2 .

      As you might see in the press – the NHS is London is never any good – but it is breaking under the volume of cases …it is very worrying .

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      • The Mouse says:

        Thanks Fedup2,
        I guess my main point is that the Government are increasing the lockdown rhetoric hour by hour and the police are stopping couples walking in the countryside together carrying a flask of hot tea. Meanwhile we have communal worshipping (in vast numbers) and nought said. I do take your point that some places of worship will be better ‘safety’ organised than others however I bet they are many exceptions.

        On a another thread – we still have flights arriving into Heathrow from India, LA, Middle-East, Africa, Italy, etc. Wonder if these arrivals are ‘Covid’ managed effectively – I doubt it.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Mouse
          Being a regular flier – the thing that really got me was that airlines are folding five flights – say – into one – thus filling up a single flight . If ever there was an opportunity to spread the virus that has even beat the London Underground covid line …

          …. as for arrivals – chaos at Heathrow – no controls no staff giving a damn – no distancing at passport control . A regular Petri dish .

          My flights are now cancelled until March and that is sort of ok by me ….

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      • Banania says:

        “The volume of cases” – what are these “cases”? People who “tested” “positive”? No reason for the NHS to “break”, and in any case there is no sign that it is breaking. How many NHS staff are off “sick” at present? 46,000, according to a report I have just read.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Covid-19: Nurse isolating in caravan for nine months moves back home
    BBC are excited about their new COOKED STORY

    Has the nurse actually just moved back in the house ?
    No they did it before Christmas
    So did the mother have Covid resistance then ?
    No, cos antibodies take 3 weeks to grow
    ..only weeks after your second jab are you 90% resistant

    What made the difference was the fact that both wife/husband had got over Covid in December
    so are incredibly unlikely to be now on carry a viral dose to spread.
    And she wasn’t at work until now, so wouldn’t have even brought any Covid particles in special ways either.

    The nurse is pretty overweight as well

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  22. Robot says:

    theisland:

    Good link. Sober and level-headed commentary.

       2 likes

  23. JohnC says:

    I’m struggling to find the actual time when Trump told his ‘mob’ to attack the Capitol building. It’s been extremely noticeable by it’s absence in all the bile, hate and rhetoric we are being bombarded with by the MSM.
    The closest I can find is:
    “I know everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building. To peacefully, patriotically make your voices heard.”
    And last I knew, the right to protest is a kingpin of democracy.
    Anyone have a link to what I must be missing ?.

       22 likes

    • JimS says:

      Donald Trump: “I know everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building. To peacefully, patriotically make your voices heard.”

      CNN’s Chris Cuomo: “Who Says Protests Are Supposed To Be Polite And Peaceful?”

      Ooops sorry, wrong people, wrong protest.

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  24. StewGreen says:

    Friday @TVKev getting more Ofcom points by cooking the narrative saying it was an “Armed Coup”
    rather than unarmed people mostly being let into by police, or sometimes forcing their way past police
    He butts in past the guy explaining that.

    “not the INSURECTIONISTS , the people who are trying to mount an ARMED coup
    … If it’s an ARMED COUP… bullets may well fly”

    “A president who has clearly lost his mind”

    “Why DEFEND Trump , and lunatics in buffalo outfits ?”
    (misrepresentation, “defending” no the guy is speaking truth
    the second part is also misrepresenting, only one guy dressed as buffalo)

    “We people in the media are not different from ordinary people”
    LOL
    – They live in metroliberal bubbleworld
    – They are not free cos of Ofcom/Youtube

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    • Oaknash says:

      Good clip Stew – O sullivans body language very interesting to watch hands to mouth and folded arms or was he “self cuddling”
      Talk Radio tries to suggest it is not part of the MSM – I think all of us here know different, Talk Radio must have been getting drunk on the Kool Aid over Christmas, obviously the Gypsies warning from UTube has not been wasted.

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      • Banania says:

        “self cuddling” is such a good phrase. It is what the opinion-formers and influencers do all the time.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Re-name Talk Radio to Shout down radio.

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    • JohnC says:

      lol – if it was an ‘armed coup’ I think there would have been a few more shots fired.
      The Left are really showing us what they are. Low-life hypocrite scumbags is the best I can come up with – but even that doesn’t do them justice.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Pelosi really looks evil – even with a Covid facemask on you can see the hate-filled eyes.

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  25. digg says:

    Matt Hancock is surprisingly the only Politician so far to stick his head above the ramparts over the Twitter / Trump ban.

    He suggests that if Social Media Companies decide to take political action then they need to be treated like any other News organisation and follow the normal media rules and fall under the normal media penalties for overstepping the mark including scrutiny of their content, presumably by Ofcom or something..

    I suspect he will get so much flack that he eventually backs down but it may have sent a shiver through the boardrooms at Twitter and Facebook.

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/jan/10/twitter-trump-ban-regulation-rethink-hancock

    Hope so!

       19 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      And if I recall he was DCMS before getting the Health job. Brave of him to say anything at all . He is quite right of course.- but nothing will change

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  26. digg says:

    GP’s in England are seeing the largest drop in Flu and Common Cold cases in years says the Guardian.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/10/gp-england-drop-common-cold-flu-cases-coronavirus-restrictions

    They have some theories why this should be but mine is that anything that presents to the medical profession right now is likely to be immediately tagged as Coronavirus so common Flu has simply been re-labelled and therefore inflating the case count.

    This along with the fact that the UK has had the lowest day and night-time temperatures for quite a while, thus the spread of bugs and viruses is much more likely to be suppressed by a sharp cold spell killing it off more quickly in the air and on surfaces.

    I’m not a medic just trying to use a bit of common sense.

       22 likes

    • Non Snowflake says:

      So what we’ve known all along. Every aspect of COVID 19 has been exaggerated, and global warming is a myth.

      Quick, someone tell the bBBC.

         15 likes

    • Beltane says:

      Just as ‘global warming’ became climate change to suit the conditions, so the cold weather kills off the bug which previously thrived in the winter, only receding as temperatures rose.
      (Next slide please….)

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Or it could be because of the mask wearing and we’re not breathing on one another .

         4 likes

    • Khaa2091 says:

      It will only be tagged as Coronovirus if they test positive – one of the underreported recent successes is that it is relatively easy to get a test.
      Covid appears to be much more infectious – and dangerous – than colds and flu. Recent Australian winter data would support the huge fall in flu numbers (and we also did quite well at vaccination this year).

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    • Up2snuff says:

      digg, We now know that the NHS is a super-spreader of Covid in all its various forms.

      I tend to steer clear of my GP during late autumn, winter and early spring anyway unless vitally necessary just to help them out but also to steer clear of possible infections for me. However, I’m old enough to recognise the symptoms of the common cold and influenza coronaviruses and treat them myself while, preferably, remaining isolated and not passing them on to anyone else.

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  27. StewGreen says:

    In this videoTrump supporters are entering the Capitol through open fire doors right past building police
    ..some even refusing to enter, saying “it’s a trap we’ll get locked in”

    I guess what happened is someone had been in the building and had opened the fire doors for them.

    It shows that the Capitol is not a secure building
    One person on the inside can open the firedoor and let people in.

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  28. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    If boros is following the science there’s a report in the DE by groups of scientists which says delaying the second vaccination can result in many virus mutations.

    Does anyone know if any other Countries are not following the 2-3 weeks between jabs as we are with the 3 month between jabs the politicians say is better for us.

    If more mutations result in a ‘baddie mutation’ and this then spreads to other Countries, how popular will GB be by disregarding the correct vaccination procedure (also known as following the science)
    Once the few million high risk people have been vaccinated the deaths will plummet. Get them done (properly, with 3 week interval) for a huge change in the daily stats.
    Looking at it the other way, vaccinating 10 million teenagers may change the stats by 1 or 2 deaths, vaccinating a similar number of high risk and oldies could save, by recent stats, 1,000 lives a day.

    Of course, these are government stats and so they are meaningless. We don’t believe anything the government says now as it’s always spin and lies.

    Why can’t we just do it properly instead.

    Also,
    If a cup of tea is now a picnic, surely a pint of beer would also be a picnic, certainly more calories. In fact, a pint of beer could be called a substantial meal meaning no need to buy a scotch egg to be able to get a pint.

    Finally,
    When the lefties (like Apple, Google and Amazon) close Parler because they disagree with other peoples views, I hope someone on here can help us to return to Parler by letting us know where to go to sign up again. Apparently it will take a week or so to get going again.
    Some of you are clever at this type of thing, maybe stew or pug or a n other who knows their way around computery stuff can help those of us who are less clued up.

    I’m now off for a glass of water (or, a picnic, as the boys in blue would call it)

       15 likes

    • Dobyns says:

      Emmanuel Goldstein, hopefully this link will work on the other side

      Join me on Parler Social Media!

      https://par.pw/download/

         3 likes

      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Dobyns.
        Thanks for the reply and link.

        I was thinking of next week when Google/Apple have stopped hosting parler.
        I’m on an iPad and Google is the internet browser I use.
        I’ve put the one you’ve linked on my other iPad so I’ll see what happens next.
        Both iPads are Apple ones.

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        • Dobyns says:

          EG, it’s Amazon doing the hosting. Google and Apple are just dropping the apps from their stores. The app will still be available elsewhere

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    • Khaa2091 says:

      The politicians are not saying it is better for us as individuals, rather that lots more people can be vaccinated and that is worth the trade off.

         0 likes

  29. taffman says:

    Why are we still paying the French £ millions ?
    What is Priti paying them for ?
    Promises , promises, promises,……………
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-55609286

       12 likes

    • theisland says:

      Why taff? You already know the answer.
      For the same reasons ‘we’ sold out the fishing industry (again) and gave up full control of our waters. For the same reasons ‘we’ have just licensed seven supertrawlers to pillage our sea. For the same reasons ‘we’ are still paying into the EU Defence Fund. For the same reasons ‘we’ will be paying £billions towards EU pension & employee benefits until 2064. For the same reasons ‘we’ agreed to split the United Kingdom. For the same reasons ‘we’ will still be putting shipbuilding contracts out to tender.
      I could go on.
      STUPIDITY, MALPRACTICE and TREASON (not necessarily in that order).

         27 likes

    • Bulldog says:

      Taff,

      Only Priti would agree to hand the French £28m of U.K. taxpayers cash without insisting on getting anything in return apart from the usual promises on eliminating these crossings. Why didn’t she demand a penalty clause stating that if they cannot stop this happening then we recoup £5,000 for every migrant that gets through towards the cost of us taking the migrant in, hotel accommodation, food, clothing, medical care, benefits etc etc.

      Reports always say a number of migrants were stopped by the French but without giving any evidence, the ratio quoted usually seems to be 3 or 4 arriving on our shores for every one that is stopped.

      Labour and the migrant support Agencies are always keen to tell us that illegal migrants benefit the U.K. economy. How about HMRC or the Home Office telling us out of all the migrants that arrived here illegally in, say 2018, how many are now paying tax to the Exchequer, how many are still on benefits and how many have disappeared. If they are still registered as unemployed what have been their total benefit costs to date. Two years or so should give them enough time to find their feet, possibly with the help of relatives already in the U.K. No one can have any problem with migrants that eventually find work, respect our laws and institutions and so start to repay the Country that gave them safety and shelter. This would go a long way to help counter the notion that some illegal migrants are not persecuted and in fear of their lives in their home country but are just looking for an indefinite taxpayer funded lifestyle. This could form the subject of a Special Panorama Investigative Report – er, on second thoughts….

      Now we are out of the E.U. France has even less incentive to prevent these crossings from continuing unabated and if anything it will only escalate – any further largesse by Priti will just be the same as tipping sacks of money overboard in the middle of the Channel.

         6 likes

  30. Dobyns says:

    Not the bbbc but a sobering commentary

    Apologies if this has been posted before

    https://www.creators.com/read/dennis-prager/01/21/i-now-better-understand-the-good-german

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  31. Dobyns says:

    Not the bbbc but a sobering commentary

    Apologies if this has been posted before

    https://www.creators.com/read/dennis-prager/01/21/i-now-better-understand-the-good-german

       1 likes

  32. Doobster78 says:

    Hugo knows the score !!!!

       28 likes

    • Dobyns says:

      Doobster, the Left loves nothing quite as much as an opportunity for a fraudulent “victory”

         8 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Hartley Brewer really sold her soul cheap didn’t she? Does she really think it will prevent her replacement by a more fashionable demographic ?
      Never a shortage of journos or lawyers or politicians …

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  33. StewGreen says:

    2018 Washington : Capitol Hill “The protesters, including groups of women and survivors of sexual assault, arrived at the building, seemingly blocking off every floor and hallway Thursday afternoon as senators continued to review materials from an FBI investigation into allegations of sexual assault against Kavanaugh.”
    That’s them occupying not the main building but the office building.

    https://www.newsweek.com/orrin-hatch-kavanaugh-protesters-grow-1153607

    “The vast majority of the arrests, 293, were a result of protests in the Hart Senate Office Building, where protesters crowded in the atrium.
    Loud chants could be heard throughout the building, which is structured so the hallways of each floor open up and look out onto the first floor.”

    + Looks to me that every so often protesters do storm into the Capitol buildings in different states

       14 likes

    • Dobyns says:

      StewGreen, the “shock” is in the occupation of the House chamber itself.

      The Hart SOB which was “occupied” is where Senators have their offices along with the Dirksen SOB. You’re correct in that there were incursions into various state capitol buildings also

      It’s much like occupying Portcullis House as opposed to the actual chamber of the Commons

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  34. Fedup2 says:

    Robert Reich – one of the slimy Clinton entourage – writes in the Guardian – the drive to impeach President Trump . They really do want his head don’t they . And really don’t want any likelihood of ‘healing or divisions ‘ in America.

    Will they get three Trump head ? Well politicians seeing the tide change must be queuing up to pay homage to the false president so i suppose he will be impeached by the week end .

    Got to admit – now that we know what has happened in America it’s time to concentrate on the UK.

       12 likes

    • Dobyns says:

      FedUp2, as the DM observed earlier today

      What we have here now is the digital equivalent of the medieval mob roaming the streets looking for someone to burn.

         14 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      Fedup2
      They are smarter here. No need to cheat to win elections here. Just cancel them blaming the China Virus. If we held an election in May the Emir would win with postal ballots and the lads on duty at the booths. And the media would not complain. So why waste time, just cancel the elections to save lives.

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  35. Richard Pinder says:

    Heard an isolated lonely Lockdown BBC comedy on the Radio today. Six BBC comedians, isolated from an audience due to Lockdown.

    1st Comedian: “Nobody is going to Trumps Inauguration. Ha Ha Ha”
    2nd Comedian: “The Lorry park in Dover is twice the size of France. Ha Ha Ha”
    3rd Comedian: “Nobody in Hollywood will invite Trump to dinner, Ha Ha Ha”
    4th Comedian: “Nobody is talking to Trump on Twitter, Ha Ha Ha”
    5th Comedian: “Melania thinks Trump is pathetic, Ha Ha Ha”
    6th Comedian: “Trump is lonely, we aren’t are we. Ha Ha Ha”

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  36. StewGreen says:

    Cadbury’s like Sainsbury are trolling us with their advertising

    ErXLZUNXMAIKvUy?format=jpg&name=small

    Next their finger of fudge advert

       23 likes

  37. Northern Voter says:

    Not the beeb, but the Jock paper the Sunday Post, headline, Can Joe Biden heal America? FFS his party caused the problem! The divvy can’t talk for 5 seconds without making cockups, and they think he can heal something. Get real.

       18 likes

    • Dobyns says:

      NV … given this TWEET from Obama’s CIA Director, how can reconciliation ever be achieved?

      In the past, those who refused to recant were burned at the stake as heretics

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  38. Northern Voter says:

    Country file, Tom the doom monger, doing a piece on water being soothing, especially if it is blue. Some clown was banging on about it and that it helped a lot of people with various ailments. Tom managed at the end of the piece to suggest ” a lot of experts are saying that some Ten million people will have mental issues due to the pandemic and lockdowns. I would suggest that some Three million of those will be from the anychess, especially if they can chuck a sicky at the same time.

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  39. StewGreen says:

    Countryfile :New Years Resolution edition
    Very preachy as usual
    You must
    – buy local eg £6 jar honey
    example given “all the cakes are from Yorkshire” FFS that’s 12,000 sqKm
    – Join their tree planting campaign
    – buy plastic free
    – buy ethical
    – Use the Bristol artificial surf centre

       9 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      …here’s Anita with her send BAME to countryside
      with “Black Girls Hike”
      So you can only hike with people the same sex and same skin colour ?
      A “safe space group”
      Would a white only group be ..a “safe space group”

         11 likes

      • Doobster78 says:

        Someone set up a WHITE girls hike group !!!

        See how that goes down with the BBC !!!!

        Of course, now that would be racist wouldn’t it !!!

        DOUBLE STANDARDS of the left make me sick.

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    • Tabs says:

      Anita said the black girl who walks is “a role model”. That has to be the most patronising thing I’ve for a long time.

      I didn’t hear Anita mention she is from Bradford the obligatory 10 times per episode though.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Now segment about making a sustainable home meal
      Their example.. sausage casserole
      …FFS it cost £15 !

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      • Up2snuff says:

        You can go vegan for a £1 at Tesco plus a stock cube of course.

        Adding sausages would only be another £1-50. Packet of rice or potatoes – some of which will be left over for more meals – £1 to £2.

        Snuffy knows how to live it up, y’know. 😉

        As we are now all in the SAGE Gulag, I had better post my recipe for Gulag Soup (h/t Ivan Denisovic) some time in the next next week.

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    • Banania says:

      It doesn’t seem that long ago when a jar of local honey cost 3/6, and that was when a jar contained 1lb.

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  40. Northern Voter says:

    And Rita Arani manages to find some actual black people out in the countryside, on zoom,cynic that I am makes me believe it was set up. She is now talking to some barmy bint walking through the woods talking about green prescriptions, something to do with getting out into the countryside. The loony lady of the lumber, who could have been a troll actually said, “you can always tell when your in woods, you can smell them. FFS.

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    • Garry Lavin says:

      Ha. Even viewers from the woke end of the spectrum must think it’s a bonkers show surely?!

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  41. Jack in the Green says:

    An antidote to the horror of the BBC? A decent whisky/rum/gin, a spin of an oldie like L.A. Woman by the Doors, a thriller by Raymond Chandler and the (euphemistic) love of a good woman. If you can manage all these at once I very much salute you.

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  42. pugnazious says:

    It’s a shame that we can’t get any rational and measured comment on Trump even from the likes of Spiked….

    ‘His praise of the cosplaying loons who stormed the Capitol Building in Washington, DC yesterday, a violent attempt to thwart the process by which Joe Biden’s election victory was being affirmed by Congress, was despicable.’

    So….let’s look at what he said……and I see nothing in there that incites violence as claimed by Twitter and Facebook et al….

    “These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long,” Trump wrote in a message that was later deleted by Twitter. He added, “Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!”

    “I know your pain. I know your hurt. But you have to go home now,” he said in a video posted more than 90 minutes after lawmakers were evacuated from the House and Senate chambers. “We can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So go home. We love you. You’re very special.”

    Not sure what was ‘despicable’…trying hard to calm things down as far as I can see alongside a legitimate complaint that the election was ‘stolen’…not by voter fraud but by the massed ranks of the media, Big Tech, the commentariat, academia and the machinations of the Democrat Party over the course of 4 years trying to delegitimise his Presidency and to smear him with everything and anything as they mounted what was in fact a coup attempt against him and his administration.

    And as for praising the ‘Insurrectionists’….how soon people forget…when he was elected in 2016 mass protests broke out to oppose him, violence and threats abounded…..Trump first off rightly blamed professonal anarchists and the media….as well as the Democrats claiming they had won and Trump was an illegitimate President who had stolen the election[sound familiar? But how different the reaction of the media…they all agreed with the Dems]…but then said this….

    ‘ “Love that fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. We will all come together and be proud!”‘

    Despicable no? Praising rioters, anarchists and insurrectionists trying to topple his Presidency and undermining Democracy in the process.

    The anti-Trumpers claim his rally speech was inflammatory and dangerous…

    ‘Trump had appeared at a massive rally near the White House, where he continued to urge supporters to fight the election results and encouraged them to march to the Capitol in remarks that were peppered with incendiary language and rife with violent undertones. At one point, he even suggested he might join them — a prospect that was discussed by the White House but eventually abandoned.’

    Read it and you’ll pretty much be bored by a very long, rambling attack on the election system….the choice quotes are of course very selective and their interpretion somewhat subjective.

    Does he urge his supporters to invade Capitol Hill? No…he says it’s ‘up to Congress’ to sort out the election fraud….

    ‘Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. After this, we’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down. We’re going to walk down any one you want, but I think right here. We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women.’

    A selective quote apparently inciting violence is this…

    ‘you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.’

    Looks like he is urging them to ‘take back’ the country using force….but that’s not what he said…he was referring, not to hs supporters, but to ‘weak’ congressmen who aren’t strong enough to do the job….

    ‘We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.’

    Right below that he urges them to make their voices heard peacefully…

    ‘We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.’

    In his rally speech he also stated…

    ‘The media is the biggest problem we have as far as I’m concerned, single biggest problem, the fake news and the big tech. Big tech is now coming into their own. We beat them four years ago. We surprised them. We took them by surprise and this year, they rigged an election. They rigged it like they’ve never rigged an election before.’

    So the election was stolen by the media and Big Tech….the BBC keeps adding to its reports that Trump had no evidence for fraud…but there’s plenty of evidence the Media and Big tech conspired to ‘steal’ the election….why does the BBC not investigate this issue as it would if Biden had lost in the same circumstances or indeed as it did when it wanted to prove its belief that Brrexit had been stolen…spending 4 years making fruitless investgations and spurious claims.

    ‘After Trump’s victory in the 2016 White House race….

    “They vowed that it would never happen again, and they want to use all the power and all the resources that they have to control the flow of information to the public and make sure that Trump loses in 2020,”

    His speech was hardly the rabble-rousing Nuremberg type speech it is being portrayed as….it’s mostly about process, undue process in the election…..most people would have been half-asleep I suspect rather than whipped up into a violent frenzy ready to do battle.

    Still…history is being written and Trump is the new Thatcher…just on a much larger scale….forever the evil, racist, sexist, white supremacist madman who stole the Presidency with the help of the Russians…..there you go…four years of BBC journalism in one small paragraph.

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  43. StewGreen says:

    TV schedulers meeting
    “Right chaps we’ve made too many travel shows in the past fronted by the boys
    so to make up the number we have to fill today’s schedule remakes of almost the same progs , but fronted by girls.

    6:15pm Channel4 ..90 mins of Julie Walters doing Scottish coastal railway
    9pm BBC2 Sara Pascoe in Finland
    10pm BBC2 Miriam Margoyles in Australia
    11pm BBC2 Miriam Margoyles in Australia

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    • Northern Voter says:

      Did Miriam travel on the first fleet? She should have been locked up long ago.

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    • Doobster78 says:

      Lawrence Fox makes valid points about white privilege on question time , then promptly cancelled by the BBC and media industry.

      Miriam Margoyles wishes the UK Prime minister dead when he had covid and her career is resurrected and the BBC lap her up !!!!

      Bias, what bias ?????

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  44. StewGreen says:

    9pm BBC4 Documentary following solar scientist Dr Lucie Green
    as she reveals how some of the UK’s worst and most dramatic weather disasters occurred many years ago, despite the popular belief that the brunt of climate change has been felt in the 21st century.

    Considering how many people today are pre-warned about potential catastrophes due to innovations in weather prediction, the presenter learns
    how an 18th-century storm surge once led to a the deaths of a thousand workers in Somerset fields,
    a hurricane drowned a fifth of Britain’s naval officers,
    and several brutal winters threatened to completely shut down most services in the country.

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  45. BRISSLES says:

    Sky news interviewing ‘people in the street’, – not one white face to be found in Barking or Newham. Oh, and the sunday market appeared to be thriving within our black community ! no worries about contagion there then, where 1 in 5 have Covid !!

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  46. Fedup2 says:

    Brissles – makes me proud that those NELondon boroughs lead the way in covid cases ……

    Any – for admin purposes – time for the new thread – thanks for the contributions …..

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  47. AnneG says:

    I read a comment online today that made me chuckle,.
    if someone dies within 28 days of getting the vaccine, did they die of the vaccine.
    Even if they fell under a bus.

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  48. Nibor says:

    More on the book TWATBBC .
    We’re in chapter nine and a sub title

    Right , Left and Brexit Turn .
    Which starts ;
    ‘Although most of the organised attacks on the BBC are from the right …..’
    There’s that word again .
    The next paragraph will take your breath away . I’ll have to reprint it in full

    ‘Further, in a recent turn , disagreements about Brexit have also now led to it being criticised [ criticized in the book] -for virtually the first time ever – by people in the centre of the political spectrum who would normally be its natural supporters . They have no problem with its funding , governance , market impact or general impartiality. But , on this specific issue, they believe that — despite endless Brexiteers to the contrary —in reality, the BBC’s coverage has systematically favoured [in italics ] pro-Brexit voices by giving them a disproportionate amount of airtime and by insufficiently challenging their claims , especially false claims . Brexit cuts across traditional left-right party lines and the BBC has , perhaps inevitably, been caught in the crossfire.’

    Well firstly the referendum was 52 to 48 , so the people in the centre would be 52 to 48 . If the word they used —spectrum— means that the people of the political spectrum are not the ordinary people then the authors really mean the political bubble they inhabit .
    If it’s the ordinary people in the middle then yes some will want the BBC to go harder on the guest Brexiteers but most will not ,and will want the BBC to go hard on the remainers .
    As for “endless “ Brexiteer claims , well I’ll have sympathy here , I’m fed up with endless remainer claims , endless remainer attempts to subvert the referendum result , and when I’ve finish reading this book , endless whining the authors make about “attacks “ on the BBC .
    How can Brexiteers be given a disproportionate amount of air time when they were in the majority? And who says what are false claims.

    Are the authors, who want the BBC to survive, really saying that on the biggest event since WW2 the BBC took the side they were against and swung it for Brexit ?
    If I felt like that I wouldn’t support the BBC .

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    • JimS says:

      In the days when Radio 4’s Feedback actually aired the views of listeners, rather being used as a promotion and policy slot by the BBC, it was always notable that the criticisms ‘from both sides’ actually came in diferent forms.

      Taking Brexit as an example, the ‘Brexiteers’ would say, ‘why is there never a pro-Brexit story’, while the ‘remainers’ would say effectively, ‘look we and you (the BBC) know that only idiots are in favour of Brexit so why on earth are you giving Brexiteers any platform at all?’

      The BBC then smuggly says ‘look criticism from both sides, we got it about right!’

      Except the argument isn’t about ‘balance’, rather one side is saying the ‘needle’ is way too far off-centre and the other side is saying the ‘needle’ isn’t far enough off-centre.

      In other words everyone agrees that the BBC is biased and in the same direction, its just that one side would like less bias and the other side more.

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  49. Eddy Booth says:

    Supermarket staff: ‘We’re lucky if people wear masks’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-55623289

    Basically the usual bleat of poor staff having to put up with unreasonable customers
    ( never the otherway around is it…)
    I’m lucky if a shelf stacker doesn’t appear one inch away from me, whilst I’m choosing, and start work.
    Half of them seem to be ‘exempt’ too.
    Then there’s the unnecessary covid marshal staff standing around the doorways ..
    Of course the bbc doesn’t ask was wearing masks simply a waste of time and ineffective, with Covid-19 still widespread.

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