341 Responses to Midweek Thread 30 December 2020

  1. theisland says:


  2. Fedup2 says:

    The Karen Carney thing continues to occupy the media – one of their own . Ms Carney used to play girls football – which makes her a suitable candidate to be a BBC expert .

    The other day she passed a comment about Leeds United getting promoted ‘on the back of covid ‘. The club went ballistic – the fans went ballistic .

    Anyway – you can guess the rest – she has been on the receiving end ‘because she’s a woman ‘ .. and on it goes .

    Ms Carney isn’t that old maybe 30 – so she won’t know about the ‘heritage ‘ of Leeds – in say – the 1970s – but many will know it .

    So the kidults are surprised at the backlash . But it shows up how dangerous the BBC ‘social agenda ‘ of tick box gender representation and the like can be ….

    ( by the way – when she is on Amazon prime she gets ‘tarted up ‘ – but not on the bbc )..


  3. Fedup2 says:

    Vaccine distribution. Apparently there is a ‘plan’ for the rapid distribution of a vaccine .

    But I bet it was done without factoring in the ability of the private sector to help out . For instance Tesco has offered to use Booker for distribution … and with the expertise of new outfits such as amazon I’d ask – surely to set a target of having the population treated by the end of March … not going into all the months of another failed year – 2021 … ?

    It’s ok – I’m ignorant – but I know there are always plenty of people ready to explain why stuff can’t be done ….


    • AndyDozefeet says:

      My prediction for 2021 is that this will be put in the less than capable hands of rnhs and phe and will be an utter disaster.

      It will be what finally does for Hancock.


  4. Tabs says:

    Covid rule-breakers ‘have blood on their hands’

    BBC allowing some doctor to make unsubstantiated claims that those not wearing masks are murderers. The phrase ‘blood on their hands’ appear 3 times in the article but not evidence presented to back this up.

    Makes you wonder how the BBC decide who they give a voice to until you check out the doctor’s bio and find he is also a climate change speaker/writer.

    Edit: the doctor is also a fiction writer – oh the irony!


    • Guest Who says:

      You do not get featured on the BBC unless you have such a quote ready.

      You have such a quote ready when you wish to feature on the BBC.

      Even if they already have you on their priority list.


    • Docmarooned says:

      Utter scaremongering nonsense. He says it not the virus – WTF.

      What the hell else is it you moron.


  5. AsISeeIt says:

    Mr AsISeeIt wakes up with a slight sniffle. Having assiduously obeyed each and every government scientifically-advised stricture as to the prevention of viruses in recent weeks, I’m frankly puzzled and somewhat bemused how this could have happened.

    Even so, here’s wishing a Happy New Year to one and all hereabouts.

    Enjoy The Great Reset, won’t you. In a satirical and whenever and wherever possible, an oppositional way.


  6. G says:

    I guess that with the arrival of new vaccines, the statisticians / ONS will be declaring a new column on their daily output of ‘infected’ and ‘deaths’. That is, for those infections / deaths from the Chinese infection of those who have/had already received the vaccine…………………
    Just so we know.


  7. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – the BMA doesn’t like it but scientists advised the Government to do it!

    Jonny ‘Staccato Dalek’ Dymond is presenting. The news headline from him is that the vaccine that requires a second inocculation, normally 21 days after the first, will now be delayed. Jonny highlights the opposition of the BMA and the fact that ‘old people’ will be confused by the measure.

    Auntie BBC is nearing her century and she is obviously suffering memory problems. It was only just before Christmas that some scientists actually advised that the first dose whould be given but the second delayed until everyone had had a first dose of the vaccine.

    I wonder if it will be an actual item on the programme? I shall wait with baited breath – not.


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Another annoying thing about TWatO, which I made the mistake of listening to, was the item about Jane Garvey, who has presented her final Woman’s Hour earlier today.

      This news was given among the headlines after 13:00 and also featured a shortish sound-bite from her, in which she said she would be happy to always be known as someone who had hosted WH for some years.

      How is this news? Why does the BBC presume that the item merits a place in the headlines rather than being, say, a short note near the end of the programme? There is too much news about media people anyway and the BBC does like to advertise for its own.

      For the record, Garvey had been on the show for 13 years, hardly a long time nowadays; by comparison, Dame Jenni Murray did 33 years (from 1987) before she too left earlier this year. I preferred Garvey to Murray, while not being a great fan of either of them, but I think the departure of Dame Jenni was worth more than a note, after around a third of a century of presenting the show.

      It’s all fairly trivial, I know, but it seems to me another example of the BBC’s self-obsession and self-publicity masquerading as “news”.


  8. Fedup2 says:

    I heard that by ‘mistake ‘ – 2 public service outfits bitching – the medics complaining about having to shout at confused old people about the vaccine

    Teachers moaning about teaching or not teaching .

    Im brutal on that subject – kid who want to learn will learn – kids who dont want too – or are just thick- will moan – or get their parent ? Or teacher to moan .

    At least they dont need to learn languages any more …


    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, fun isn’t it? 🙁

      I think the BBC this year may have just changed me. I used to want reform of the BBC, preferably by a far-sighted DG of complete integrity and authority.

      Now, I think I would be happy to see it sold off – privatised – even to a multi-billionaire from the USA. HMG should give us all shares in the BBC up to 49% of the issued share capital and then flog the BBC off with a controlling interest to Elon Musk or Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg.


  9. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #2 – let’s trail as many vox pop problems across the airwaves about education, schools and Covid as possible, Jonny, and please turn on the grim, solemn voice.

    From the start of TWatO the BBC managed almost twenty minutes of handwringing woe, woe and thrice woe about the effect of a sudden delay of school opening up after the Christmas and New Year holidays due to increasing Covid cases. Some school pupils and a sixth form College Principal helpfully described the problems that the decision to delay school opening and the instruction to test pupils for the Civid virus will cause them.

    Funny that, the BBC and Jonny Dymond have completely forgotten that Teacher Unions and others were calling for schools to be closed for all of January.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2 – welcome to the ‘sell off ‘ club . You mention jonnie Dymond and his memory .

      This is the character who forgot he bought cannabis is a nightclub in vilnuis and got caught taking it through airport security….

      Perhaps drugs have given this graduate of the LSE / LSD memory trouble. ?


  10. taffman says:

    Al Beeb – “Brexit: How will it affect my holiday to Spain? And other questions”
    Well put it this way , if you make it hard for Brits to go to the continent on holls, you will stuff the economy up for the EU’s holiday resorts.
    I think we have them by the ‘tennis’ balls eh – game set and match .
    Over to you remainers/rejoiners ……………
    Rule Britannia !


  11. Beltane says:

    Heartwarming New Year Honours list of worthies in the Times covers 32 columns (408col.in) of run-on type and includes someone called Choudary whose MBE is for his work with illegal immigrants and a tax-exile racing driver who, despite an income of many £millions, appears to suffer from a severe case of cranial ringworm.


    • taffman says:

      Parliament is infested with closet liberal snowflakes and stuffed with appeasers.


    • G says:


      “…..his work with illegal immigrants…”. The secret here is the word, “illegal”.

      MBE? Shouldn’t that be a criminal charge by the police under the provisions for Accomplices or accessories under Section 8 of the Accessories and Abettors Act 1861 (to a crime) as a Secondary Party?
      S.8 – “Whosoever shall aid, abet, counsel, or procure the commission of [any indictable offence] , whether the same be [an offence] at common law or by virtue of any Act passed or to be passed, shall be liable to be tried, indicted, and punished as a principal offender.” Which means Mr Choudary cops the same fate as the actual offender(s).
      Just goes to show how so-called, “Justice” and the Rule of Law is operated in the UK. Heart warming for anybody charged with the non-crime, ‘Hate Speech’.
      Sick to death of the failure of people to comply with the law of the land.


  12. taffman says:

    Al Beeb –
    “Brexit: UK braced for changes as it cuts ties to EU”
    How about The EU braced for changes as UK cuts ties?
    Its called the ‘glass half full syndrome’ .
    Or Al Beeb’s anti-british propaganda.


    • JamesArthur says:


      It is hilarious as the BBC always paint the UK as having the problems with Brexit.. if this was the case why did the EU try so hard to stop us leaving?

      I fear BBC will still be Brexit bashing at every opportunity in 2021..any downturn or poor economic performance in UK will be due to Brexit and anything good will be despite Brexit and due to EU
      Defund in 21


      • taffman says:

        Its almost as if Al Beeb wants Great Britain to fail ?


        • Guest Who says:


  13. BRISSLES says:

    Um, regarding the fish in the Channel. Can anyone explain to me how quotas are policed ? if the French are to be restricted by a ‘percentage’ in coming years, how does that work ? or is their catch weighed and recorded at every port and harbour, …. or not ? and, how can we trust them ?


  14. Sluff says:

    Do Telegraph readers and journos read this website?
    Yesterday at 1235 I pointed out the difficulty in volunteering or as a paid employee to help with the vaccine roll out, with the strong implication of slow progress.

    As if by magic today the Telegraph and various letter writers seem to agree. Why, they ask, is the private sector not involved? Tesco, who know a few things about mass distribution of chilled products have offered, as have hotels as venue experts. But nothing happens. The NHS is keen to protect itself, get the glory, and keep everyone else out, and sod those of us waiting for action.

    A 72 year old ex GP friend contacted the local Clinical Commissioning Group to help. No joy. So she spoke to the lead partner of her old practice. He’d take her tomorrow, but she is regarded by the officials as too old to stick a needle in someone’s arm. The CCG plan to vaccinate using only existing resources. We’ll still be waiting in 2022 at that rate.

    As useless incompetence goes, this one is off the scale. But pretty normal for our world class NHS.

    PS Israel has already vaccinated 25% of its entire population over the age of 60.


  15. taffman says:

    A video remainder from a past Labour MP to Al Beeb and the present Labour Party………………..


    • Sluff says:

      A timely reminder of a very principled man. Of the left but not really Bennite.
      Have never really understood why the left of Labour was Eurosceptic but not the centre right of Labour. What was the principled difference? Was it tactical? A recognition that pure socialism was unobtainable if within the EEC?

      And really ditto the Tories. Ken Clarke was pretty right wing as Chancellor and a believer in sound money. Yet he was an arch federalist, painting his Eurosceptics as right wing nutters.
      That Labour Left/ Tory right link always seemed to define the laws of physics.
      But the really good news is that after 11 pm tonight we don’t need to worry about any of it any more.

      Advance Britannia!


      • Up2snuff says:

        “A recognition that pure socialism was unobtainable if within the EEC?”

        Well, that has all changed in recent years. I reckon we are escaping the EU in the nick of time to remain free of the grip of China if not the grip of their germs.


  16. theisland says:


  17. vlad says:

    Every day America gives us a new example of the not-so silent majority exercising Consumer Power, and confirming the truth of “Get Woke Go Broke”.

    Today it’s a Walmart employee who insulted Republicans on Twitter and promptly knocked a few million dollars off the value of the company as consumers boycotted it.

    High time we learnt the same lesson over here.


    • G says:


      I’ve taken an in depth look at what’s going on, ‘streetwise’ in the US and I’ve concluded that with the plethora of new entrants on YouTube sharing the truth, it certainly seems that politics will never be the same again in the US. I’m convinced that, in the worst event, i.e. Harris takes occupation of the White House, they (and all the commies in support) will never survive the people even medium/long term. The people are angry and sure getting organised. Not just over the current issue of the November election but, it will never be said again that the people simply don’t pay attention. 71 million have awoken to what’s in store if the unvoted for, take control. I do hope that the fraud is formally and comprehensively exposed come 06/01 but, if not, any politician thinking they have a safe position will be totally wrong. Exceptional changes/movement will be the order, shame it is not happening here to get rid of people/political parties that do no good for the people.
      Take a look at:


      • vlad says:

        Indeed there’s been a mass ‘red-pilling’ of the population, who are now savvy to the elites, the media, the social media, the deep state, and so many institutions.

        Coming to the UK soon!


    • G says:

      Ultimately, it will always be left to the, ‘people’ to sort out the messes the political class and, “our betters” leave behind.


  18. StewGreen says:

    R4 book show
    ‘Isn’t it great that this year the Booker prize was won by black women in both sections Fiction and non-fiction.
    … white men won it too much in the past.’

    Current BBC anthem is#WhiteManBad

    Now they are recommending a novel
    where the main character is a Muslim woman in corrupt India, wrongfully arrested & scapgoated for a terrorist attack, she witnessed.
    Also features “her former teacher, a newly minted politician; and a transgender woman or hijra”


  19. theisland says:

    David Vance: WHAT LIES IN STORE FOR US IN 2021?



  20. Guest Who says:

    Ex BBC editorial or QT production staff at Sky?


    • StewGreen says:

      Why .. cos Ofcom don’t care about the law
      and are part of two tier Britain
      where metroliberals don’t have to obey the same rules as the rest of us.
      Both Sky and Ofcom are lib-supremacist orgs.


  21. JimS says:

    Having watched some of Beauty and the Beast on BBC One today I can only surmise that the ‘Black Death’ must have been a mass extinction event that wiped out the mostly ‘black’ population of Europe, allowing the wicked ‘white’ people to take over, as recorded by Pathé Pictorial.

    Thank heavens we have Hollywood and the BBC to keep us in touch with our lost past and culture.


  22. StewGreen says:

    4:05pm onwards Farage is on TalkRadio
    YouTube link


  23. StewGreen says:

    4:30pm Radio4 3 lib-supremacist sciency people

    “Dr Adam Rutherford, Prof Alice Roberts and Prof Brian Cox”
    using the shield marked “science” to push dogma

    However the blurb doesn’t mention their dogma
    so maybe they might hold back.


  24. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Boris Johnson’s father applies for French citizenship”
    Where is this going ?


    • StewGreen says:

      The context is he was born French thru his mother.
      if they don’t give you that in the headline then they are not giving you the truth.

      His mother was Yvonne Eileen Irene Williams
      Born Versailles, Yvelines, France in 1907


    • MarkyMark says:

      “He gazed up at the enormous face and floppy hair. Forty years 12 Months it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose not served in a Pub. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother Boris.”



    • MarkyMark says:

      “He gazed up at the enormous face and floppy hair. Forty years 12 Months it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose not served in a Pub. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother Boris.”



  25. digg says:

    The BBC running a claim by an outfit called “Autonomy” that we should all have a 4 day working week…


    A quick look at the Autonomy think tank website reveals what they are all about and it’s political Marxism in new clothes, all the staff are recent graduates in political arenas, this is the profile of one member of staff picked at random.

    Kathi Weeks

    Kathi Weeks teaches in the Gender, Sexuality, and Feminist Studies Program at Duke University. Her primary interests are in political theory, feminist theory, Marxist thought, the critical study of work, and utopian studies. She is the author of Constituting Feminist Subjects (re-issued by Verso in 2018) and The Problem with Work: Feminism, Marxism, Antiwork Politics and Postwork Imaginaries (Duke UP, 2011), and a co-editor of The Jameson Reader (Blackwell, 2000).”

    Further down the page it runs a link to a story from 2019 about Labours John McDonnell promising a 32 hour week at the Labour Party Conference.


    Coincidence? No this is political activism at work right inside the BBC. It fits the World Order mantra of crippling the private self-supporting individual and forcing them to be under State Control.

    It’s the way they want things to work for the future, they hate anyone they cannot completely control in every aspect of life!


    • StewGreen says:

      If the UK is rich enough to just work 4 days
      we wouldn’t be pushing retirement up to 70 years old and beyond.


      • Oldspeaker says:

        The part they leave out with a reduced working week is the corresponding drop in living standards. The climate change ruse didn’t frighten enough people so in comes the fabled ‘great reset’ on the back of covid.


    • Up2snuff says:

      digg: ” “Kathi Weeks teaches in the Gender, Sexuality, and Feminist Studies Program at Duke University. Her primary interests are in political theory, feminist theory, Marxist thought, the critical study of work, and utopian studies. She is the author of Constituting Feminist Subjects (re-issued by Verso in 2018) and The Problem with Work: Feminism, Marxism, Antiwork Politics and Postwork Imaginaries (Duke UP, 2011), and a co-editor of The Jameson Reader (Blackwell, 2000).” ”

      Time she got a proper job!


  26. Fedup2 says:

    As I wrote earlier – there will be a list / numbers of those applying for EU passports – and – of course – giving up their UK passports …
    Plenty of luvvies going for it ….


  27. JohnC says:

    Looking at the BBC to see what gems they have for us today – particularly around the complete fiasco of the Oxford vaccine.
    Apparently there are 5 million doses manufactured (presumably in a big vat) but only 500,000 available.
    And the big bottleneck ? (according to the BBC):
    ‘Because vaccines have to be put into vials and batched and certified.’
    They are supposed to have been manufacturing this stuff (at risk) for ages now. Wtf have they been doing ?. Did they forget this bit ?.
    Welcome to the world of academia.


  28. vlad says:

    More BBC shenanigans exposed by the indefatigable Alex Belfield.

    NEW BBC SCANDAL 😳 Cover-Up Emily Maitlis “Misleading” Cummings Propaganda 🤦‍♂️


    • taffman says:

      A gross misuse of public money . How does a Tory Government allow it to go on ?
      How does it allow the outfit to be sustained by a tax enforced by law punishable by Jail?


  29. StewGreen says:

    11:30pm What a New Year’s Party on Radio4
    Sandi Toksvig with guest Alan Davies

    The page lists other guests for the series
    : Grayson Perry, Dr Maggie Aderin-Pocock, Bridget Christie, Sindhu Vee, Clive Myrie, Professor Brian Cox, Zoe Lyons and presenters and podcasters Rose and Rosie
    That doesn’t sound very diverse to me.
    Surely you’d find them at the same North London dinner party


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Toksvig is at least quite clever; Alan Davies seems largely bereft of talent. The list seems to have an over-representation of ethnics and, of course, Lefties. Utterly predictable and nauseating.


  30. MarkyMark says:

    Happy Brexit Day (we will see) …

    “He gazed up at the enormous face and floppy hair. Forty years 12 Months it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose not served in a Pub. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother Boris.”



  31. Concrete sea says:

    This is crazy.

    Edinson Cavani: Man Utd forward banned over Instagram post.
    A close friend had congratulated him on Instagram and his response was ‘Gracias negrito’ (Thank you little black one). This is a term of endearment or affection to a friend, particularly in Uruguay, Cavani’s homeland. It can be misconstrued in other parts of the World as being offensive.

    When it was pointed out to him, Cavani apologised and removed the post.

    The Football Association have fined him £100,000 and banned him for 3 matches.

    The FA said in imposing the punishment “A comment posted on the Manchester United FC striker’s Instagram page was insulting, abusive, improper and brought the game into disrepute contrary to FA Rule E3.1. The post also constitutes an ‘aggravated breach’, which is defined in FA Rule E3.2, as it included reference, whether express or implied, to colour and/or race and/or ethnic origin”.

    Man Utd caved in and said “Despite his honest belief that he was simply sending an affectionate thank you in response to a congratulatory message from a close friend, he chose not to contest the charge out of respect for, and solidarity with, the FA and the fight against racism in football ”.

    Effectively the F A’s interpretation is the misconstrued one, but it does get me thinking that footballers who don’t bother or refuse to kneel may also be “insulting abusive or improper”. Oh hang on I’m getting confused perhaps those who do kneel are committing the ‘crime’ (as that is what it now appears to be under Rule E3 .1 blah blah).

    Initials of F A seems quite appropriate really in light of their response.

    The Beeb’s ‘ football’ reporter commented “There is sympathy for the Uruguayan in what was an innocent personal post. However, there is simply no excuse for not being aware of the wider aspect of the society he is living in – and either he should have been aware, or the club should have made him aware of the offence it could cause”. Nicely tailored to fit their agenda.

    Now I do wonder if people in the UK started to throw forward the argument to others of, shall we say an ethnic minority of ‘Being aware of the wider aspect of society they are living in’ and what the reaction would be.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I suppose the FA is hyper sensitive after their chairman ?had to go after using the wrong Lingo in some jobsworth MP committee – …….all gone a bit 1984 hasn’t it …..humanity being crushed …


      I know there is sometimes , rightly , a contest here to be first on a thread – well just to let interested parties and trolls know – it will be going up at 2200 London time if I’m still sober ….


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Perhaps they will have to suitably edit that fine volley by Manuel Negrete (for Mexico against Bulgaria at the 1986 World Cup) as his name is a bit, well, you know …


  32. Guest Who says:

    Having got the killer quote, seems an all staff memo has gone out.


  33. Darcy3 says:

    “SIR Lewis Hamilton but Jimmy Greaves only gets an MBE?’ Furious social media users say it’s an ‘insult’ that the England football legend was overlooked for a knighthood in New Year’s honours

    Greaves is included in the Honours revealed yesterday, after Sportsmail campaigned for his achievements, inexplicably overlooked for so many years.

    He became a beloved public figure for decades after a successful football career which saw him score 357 goals in the top-flight of English football for Chelsea, Tottenham and West Ham – which stands as a record almost 50 years after his last game.

    Greaves also scored 44 goals in 57 games for England and was part of the World Cup-winning squad in 1966, though injury denied him a place in the final.

    He became one of Spurs’ all-time greats and holds the club scoring record with 268 goals, winning the FA Cup in 1962 and 1967 and the European Cup Winners’ Cup in 1963, the same year the club finished second in the old First Division.”



    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      He didn’t play in the 1966 World Cup final because Alf Ramsey preferred Roger Hunt. Note that if Geoff Hurst’s second goal hadn’t crossed the line, Hunt was there on the spot to tap in the rebound if necessary but didn’t because it wasn’t. Roger Hunt only got a belated MBE too even though he was at the core of Bill Shankly’s mighty Liverpool team of the 1960s. Alan Ball, who played a blinder that day in midfield, only got an MBE too. Greaves’s MBE may be late coming but at least he got one. Let’s hear it for Ron Flowers too. John Connelly, who died in 2012 and actually played for England in the tournament, never got anything.


      • Northern Voter says:

        FeralFemaleOfTheForest, will you be appearing on Match of the Day? You appear to have more knowledge than jugears and the rest of them.


        • The WestWyvern says:

          Why is football still being played when large tracts of the country are locked down? These teams and their hangers on should not be travelling the length and breadth of the countryside to kick a ball, along with all the hugging and kissing they indulge in. It needs to be stopped.


  34. Darcy3 says:

    “Double murderer who gunned down mother-of-nine, 53, and her 21-year-old nephew received more than £600,000 of taxpayers’ money in legal aid across five trials

    Obina Ezeoke executed Annie Efoko and Bervil Kalikaka-Efoko in North London
    It took an unprecedented five trials before Ezeoke was jailed for double murder
    Now the full extent of the bill for Ezeoke’s legal aid costs has been revealed



    • G says:


      Yet, we are told, they contribute so much to the UK, the economy, social harmony……………Ha ha
      Multiply the 600k by another unknown factor for all the others of foreign origin and I’d say, the books cannot be balanced.


  35. Darcy3 says:

    British-born Jihadi bride, 25, who lost an arm in a Syrian airstrike calls the children killed in the Manchester bombing ‘victims of war’

    Samia Hussein, 25, who joined Islamic State in 2015, was smuggled from Syria
    She was allowed to fly into Heathrow via Turkey in February and was detained
    Hussein refused to condemn the bombing which claimed the lives of 22 people

    A British ISIS bride has been allowed to return to the UK, and calls children murdered in Manchester Arena attack ‘victims of war’.



  36. digg says:

    The BBC offer advice to remain voters now we are on the verge of leaving the EU…


    The salient paragraph…

    “it can help to channel anger into something productive, such as learning something new. With Brexit, this could be volunteering for organisations you agree with politically, for example.”

    Once red, always, always, always red…..


  37. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “Covid rule-breakers ‘have blood on their hands'”

    “Prof Montgomery, who works in intensive care at London’s Whittington Hospital, and leads a research group at UCL, said: “We are in a lot of trouble in UK intensive care now.”

    “Just huge numbers coming in, my heart goes out as well to our emergency departments, seeing a tsunami in the last week or two of cases. Everyone is working at maximum stretch.”


    Prof Mongomery is a Left Wing activist and an active XR supporter. Our BBC have given him an open platform to spout forth for a full page. The Left/BBC have politicised Covid for their own agenda. Destroy the Tories by destroying the economy.
    Strange, the BBC have not referred to his ideology. But why would they?

    “Climate change is a medical emergency… it thus demands an emergency response.”



    • The WestWyvern says:

      Climate change…. check out the bbc webshite. What a difference a week makes.

      From kids will grow up not knowing what snow is…… to many many scenes of cold white winter weather from Dartmoor to Dundee…

      Well done AntiBeeb, 👏


  38. Guest Who says:

    Lurch and gang can rely on their fave RT source.



  39. Northern Voter says:

    Mrs Voter is a bit of a culture vulture, and as such she recorded Toby Jones’s version of Uncle Vanya.It was all going swimmingly till the Professor’s wife appears. Shock, Horror it was a dusky maiden. The only Black Russian I ever saw was a cigarette by Sobranie!


  40. Peter Grimes says:

    I’ve been out all day. Has anyone else seen/commented on this brilliant piece of news?



    • Piku says:

      This piece of news is even more brilliant:


      Other fact checking sites are available. They all report the same brilliant piece of news.


      • taffman says:

        Have you had yours yet ?
        I am sure that you will find this site of use, perhaps you could pass it on to your chums to “fact check” out?
        You may like to advertise it?


      • Oldspeaker says:

        Fact checked by an organisation with close Facebook links and co founded by Alan Duke with 26 years at CNN under his belt. Case closed then, totally unbiased.


      • The WestWyvern says:

        The troll is out. Darkness must have arrived.

        Fact checking in full swing.


        All we need now is for the cut’n’paste idiot to crawl out from its hole.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Wyvern – I’m thinking of invoking moderator privilege and acting like social media taking down ‘non approved ‘ views .
          Works both ways – censorship…

          Less than an hour to go before the chains are cut between ourselves and our enemy …


          • Darcy3 says:

            Why not ? it is what the far left do to those they abuse on twitterface who have the damn nerve to reply to their abuse


          • The WestWyvern says:

            Fed, yup, I agree. A visit to any guardian comments section will see the non believers bullied, belittled and abused. A bit like Tory politicians on the Beeb, so yes perhaps what’s goo for the goose….

            Round my way the fireworks have already started to celebrate the escape from the Riech EUSSR.

            Old paddy pantsdown rotted corpse must be spinning in its grave, a true europhile if ever there was one.

            Let’s hope Hesstime and a few other traitors don’t suffer too much this evening 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


  41. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    From Black Lives Matter to Belarus and Hong Kong, protests have barely been out of the news in 2020.

    But how often do protesters achieve the change they demand?



    Usually by dropping a quick note to BBC News.


  42. Northern Voter says:

    FeralFemaleOfTheForest, will you be appearing on Match of the Day? You appear to have more knowledge than jugears and the rest of them.


    • taffman says:

      Its funny how the two of the Three Stooges appear on the same evening? Being junior employees of the outfit they must have drawn the short straw to be working this evening.
      Anyway, a Happy Brexit New Year to our very own Al Beeb Trolls wherever your office is this evening.
      Rule Britannia!


  43. Beltane says:

    The BBC has defended their Christmas Nativity Special from viewers’ accusations of being ‘offensive to Christians’.
    A one-hour special due to be aired during Ramadan and featuring Rylan Clarke, Eddie Izard and Graham Norton as ‘The Prophetable Camp Followers’ may now be shown at a later date.


  44. Philip_2 says:

    We have a truce with Europe. We do not yet have a settlement.
    by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

    Brexiteers have secured the essential possibilities that they sought. This country emerges from the negotiating ordeal battered and chastened but nevertheless a self-governing sovereign democracy in the remaking, if it can rebuild its institutions after 40 years of hollowing out and creeping political infantilism.

    Brexiteers have secured the essential possibilities that they sought. This country emerges from the negotiating ordeal battered and chastened but nevertheless a self-governing sovereign democracy in the remaking, if it can rebuild its institutions after 40 years of hollowing out and creeping political infantilism…

    The “direct effect” of EU law invented by euro-judges in the 1960s with breathtaking boldness – and with no treaty justification – is finally over. Lex est anima totius corporis popularis: law is the collective mind of the people. It is elemental. We have retrieved it….

    There is certainly going to be trouble because Britain must legally change its regulatory system in order to join the Asian trade bloc (TPP). This will become the biggest free trade zone by far once the United States accedes under Joe Biden, ultimately leaving the EU as the much smaller economic area, and also as the world’s slow-growth backwater if it is not careful.

    The moment that the UK starts to make these changes, Brussels will scream divergence, or make accusations of “unfair competition”. It is a clash of two incompatible philosophies on what constitutes free trade and what drives the process of economic development and wealth creation. But this battle must be had….

    The imperative now is to join the TPP and to secure a deep free trade deal with the US as fast as possible. Britain must never again find itself in a position where the EU controls so many chokeholds. We must break reliance on Dover and spread food purchases far and wide, as competitive logic dictates in any case…

    Brussels threatened to cut off Britain’s electricity interconnectors at the height of winter if it did not come to heel. Once played, that card cannot be unplayed. The interconnectors are no longer politically safe. This country must push faster for energy self-sufficiency, bringing forward electrolysis to convert North Sea wind power into hydrogen and synthetic fuels for global export.

    It must restructure industrial supply lines rapidly, almost if reorganising the economy for wartime mobilisation. Only then does the “rebalancing mechanism” lose its menace. Only then do we take the sting out of “cross retaliation”. Only then can we have a stable relationship with Europe.

    [end] Edited.

    Reading this made me rush to our overall energy consumption.
    • See: http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk

    • We are reliant on just under (10%) wind power.
    • The French have an (Nuclear) input on currently (5%) of the power intake
    • Half the nations power is Gas or Coal (50%) imported from outside EU.

    Its madness to rely solely on Wind power alone (although the BBC manage to survive) but I doubt even they could survive on just 10% electricity wind power.

    Energy is a factor we can win against the might of the EU. We have not had to do this before and Germany is highly reliant on Russian Gas and has limited coastline for wind power. France is largely nuclear but restricted by technology developed by the UK back in the 1960’s. That is when Labour decide that nuclear was ‘toxic’. The French proved our ideas were workable.

    We have the power to relaunch this technology. We can also install ‘whirly’ Windmills to keep the BBC types happy, but the bulk of our power will be high tech nuclear. Or even Coal, We have the cleanest COAL in Europe. Remember Germany relies on the dirtiest (cheap) COAL from Poland and thanks to ‘GREENIES’ having taken over the German economy, they have a much bigger hurdle and than we do.

    We have the scale, the internationalism, the commonwealth (including AUS and NZ and India) to create a bigger wealth pool than the EU overnight.

    This is not the end but the beginning. The EU will try to stop us at every opportunity. The BBC will try to unravel the outcome, the EU centric centralist and they believe in SOCIALISM in all its forms. They cannot help it. Its not a bias (for the world they inhabit) it is normal requirement, since Blair.

    The media itself is changing in to a virtual world. Nothing is real. Removed from reality they compensate with massive self-gratification payments to keep ‘people on board’ disillusioned, depressed, short-attention span youth, anxiety prone ‘wierdies’ of (Climate/Gender/Race) and lacking any experience of the ‘outside-world’ they seek to undermine here in the UK. The problem is, as commentators have said before me is that the new MEDIA itself has become a huge DISTORTION mirror totally from reality into political dogma.

    The huge investment the BBC made in Twitter and Facebook and to some extent in Google (the BBC even have their own BBC channel youtube) and rely (despite denials) on NUJ journalists on Twitter to stoke up controversy as a (contained) ‘Twitter storm’ which the BBC can later deny. They see it as cheap BBC publicity Good or Bad they claim credit for both. The low down is that the BBC has no values to support, no morality to influence output and no shareholders (like other companies and institutions) it is self-serving. It’s total DNA is just the survival of the License fee. That is the only way they can pay themselves vast amounts.

    That is why the BBC must be purged. It is a scourge on society, it has no morals, no values and is claims to be moderating when it is a serial perpetrator of injustices it claims to be remedying. It rejoices in that controversy. Perversion as reality. Children as playthings for the rich.

    We really have to get rid of the BBC. The EU exists primarily within the BBC. They are fifth columnists. They would never deny either.

    That is a new year resolution we have to make stick. We know how well the BBC wriggle out of all responsibility for bias which is obvious to all and it has spread. We need a lock down and new climate change at the BBC to include ALL the peoples of the UK, not just the 8% to tell us how it is. We know how it is. Utter Bullshit BBC, times are changing and much better broadcasters are the way forward. This is the future of Broadcasting – AND its NOT the BBC!

    I look foreword to several hundred UK broadcasters and the end to BBC dominance.
    This is the future of the UK. Grass rooted, enterprising, enabling, truly (conservative) environmentally, anti-bureaucratic, profitable. i.e. all the things the BBC is not.

    I raise a glass to that. And we are OUT of the EU at least (despite BREXIT) BBC doom mongers, it won’t be easy for a few years. I know that. I voted freedom, we have a dream. It does not include the BBC. The BBC does not represent the resolve of people of the UK who have suffered enough.

    We want out and have got it. Finally at 11pm tonight.



    • Fedup2 says:

      When I was studying EU law I was astonished by the ‘direct effect ‘ of Brussells ‘ laws – and how the UK took great effort in putting them straight into UK legislation – even if they didn’t aid the UK – whilst other EU countries ignored them and got a free ride in terms of enforcement . So many reasons to get away from that corruption ….


    • Fedup2 says:

      Phillip – your post needs to be cut and pasted to the next thread as it highlights the key weaknesses between us and the enemy …..


    • Dover Sentry says:

      Thanks for that, Philip_2. Here’s a quote:

      “The low down is that the BBC has no values to support, no morality to influence output and no shareholders (like other companies and institutions) it is self-serving. It’s total DNA is just the survival of the License fee. That is the only way they can pay themselves vast amounts.”

      I would like to add that they hate Brexit, if I may 😉


  45. Dover Sentry says:

    “Anyone else fancy a quick pint? See you down the Red Lion”.

    A quaint old British phrase that is now redundant.


  46. Fedup2 says:

    Looby -good to hear from you . But I think you will find government regs prohibited any mistletoe related activity under tier 3(A)(as amended ) x


    • Loobyloo says:

      Well, I’m eagerly awaiting the fireworks and champagne popping from Al Beeb and Sky when the clock strikes 11…not!! But it will be a moment of delicious satisfaction 🥂


  47. taffman says:

    Al Beeb
    “Brexit: New era for UK as it completes separation from European Union”

    That’s it, we’re out !


  48. The WestWyvern says:

    5 below freezing point in Westyland this morning. Not a breath of wind.

    A layer of white/grey cloud and fog. No sunshine.

    I guess it’s not a good day for ‘renewable energy sources’

    Has anyone told Greta or Princess Nut Nuts, I’m sure the AntiBeeb will want to ask…..