300 Responses to Weekend Thread 19 December 2020

  1. taffman says:

    Al Beeb – “Brexit: No trade deal unless ‘substantial shift’ from EU, UK says”
    Boris appears to be holding out.
    But they want our fish and the Remainers/Rejoiners are still harping on about how little our trade depends on fish. Well it is probably small at the moment but that’s why we want it back in the UK. Think of all the periphery and ancillary jobs linked to that trade. Shipbuilding, dockside plant, fish processing, let alone the jobs on the trawlers and transport .
    Britain can make a lot of money exporting fish back to Europe and other parts of the world.


    • StewGreen says:

      The whole point of Brexit was to open up to world markets.
      ie CHANGE not stay the same.

      On Guido the other day an MP tried to show maths that proved Harrods is bigger.
      His final argument claimed Harrods is a bigger “added value”.

      Harrods added value comes from its profit margin
      and the British element in manufacture price
      but I reckon most of those wholesales costs will come from overseas.
      ie £1m turnover for Harrods is probably 0.6m added value to UK

      Whereas when a British fishing boat has £1m turnover almost all it’s costs are UK costs eg fuel from UK oil, UK ship maintenance etc. So it adds close to £1m to UK economy.


    • Dobyns says:

      taffman, was talking with a French friend about fishing.

      He told me that one of the things the French fishing community is concerned about is that the Dutch mega-trawlers who are currently hoovering up all the fish they can in UK waters will move to French waters and do their hoovering there – hence the French intransigence.

      I have not been able to independently verify this but it makes sense to me.

      It’s all about whose ox is being gored


  2. StewGreen says:

    Isn’t a lot of British shellfish flown to the far east ?
    where e top pricesare paid.


    • taffman says:

      It would not surprise me that EU fishmongers are already doing that and making a lot of money from our fish.


  3. taffman says:

    Al Beeb – “Shell shocked: ‘Lobster capital’ braces for Brexit”
    So where will the EU get its shellfish from ? They will still want shellfish.

    On a similar matter , Yesterday I purchased a punnet of raspberries from the local market and they had come from the Netherlands but the label stated “Origin Morocco”!
    Surely it is not beyond the capabilities of our fruit merchants to source these fruit direct from the growers ?


    • Darcy3 says:

      Contact your local BAME, according to the bbc they are prevalent throughout the countryside and can surely find a source for you with their indigenous knowledge

      the strange thing is, they always seem to be hiding over the last twenty years I have been walking through the countryside, but always pop up on the bbc, thank goodness, with their ever complaining gobs about racism of squirrels, stoats and foxes

      Funny, not many recipes for jerk pheasant or kentucky fried rabbit around, or hallal venison. I wait with anticipation for the bbc to fill that void with their plethora of countryside BAMES who are never seen in the countryside until a bbc camera turns up.


  4. StewGreen says:

    8pm Channel4 didn’t choose someone like Jay Blades


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Victoria Coren is not BAME, but she is a fully paid up member of the metropolitan leftie elite, hates the Tories, Trump and Brexit, and has a column in the newly woke Daily Telegraph. As far as the new ruling class is concerned, she is one of them.


  5. StewGreen says:

    BBC4 tonight
    9:30 15 minutes of John Sessions
    Then 1:15 of Asian comedy
    Then 1 hour of gospel music


  6. taffman says:

    Unless I missed it , has Al Beeb broadcast all the Trade Deals we have already signed with the rest of the world thanks to Liz Truss ?
    I am sure that maxincony/WildWomanOfThe Woods will be along to enlighten me …………………


  7. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “Germany and Finland bring home women from Islamic State camps”

    “…human rights groups have urged governments to take their citizens back, arguing that leaving women and children in the camps puts them at risk of illness and radicalisation.”


    But, they are already radicalised for being in the camps??
    For ‘human rights groups’ as above, include our BBC.


    • taffman says:

      “Germany and Finland bring home women from Islamic State camps”
      That’s Sexist! What about the men ?
      Sexism works both ways doesn’t it ?


  8. Darcy3 says:

    All of a sudden according to the bbc women are “victims” ? that need different treatment from men ?

    when they want to be firemen we lower the fitness standards to let them in etc etc etc, and the bbc goes beyond demographics to promote wimmin

    We are continuously told they are equal

    but now the bbc intimate that wimmin terrrorists should be allowed back to the country they despise because thay are wimmin through promoting that opinion with no objections allowed

    the bbc hypocrisy is astounding and beyond parody

    Monty Python could not do it better


    • pugnazious says:

      I thought ‘women’ had been edited out of existence…..no more ‘gender’ as it might offend those who trans…..which is odd in a world where the BBC is all about identity politics and stirring up division and conflict. I imagine the same logic can be applied to religion…Just as trans activists insist there is no such thing as gender and all people are genderless and can be whatever they want to be[whilst paradoxically getting annoyed when people insist they are not actually ‘women’] Muslims insist all people are Muslim, some just need to revert back to Islam, Christianity and all other religions can’t be allowed to exist just as ‘women’ can’t be allowed to exist…thus Christianity et al must be edited from the world.


    • Darcy3 says:

      Of course they could acknowledge that muslms view women as property

      is that a pig that i see flying by….

      they found one that baked a cake and had a group [email protected] into their lattes


    • Red Pill says:

      Women are the perennial victims while also being the stoical warriors. Hypocrisy is baked into feminism like a sausage in a toad in the hole. Take ‘ironic misandy’ as an example – the f*ked up, warped idea, that hatred of men is somehow funny and ‘progressive’. Hatred is hatred, it shouldn’t matter how the package is wrapped or who delivers it, it’s still hate.

      The BBC are at the forefront of this sh*te and we need a strong government to rein in their devisive, socially destructive, propaganda. This current government is not it.


  9. Guest Who says:


    • pugnazious says:

      LOL…what will be the BBC’s ‘message of hope’? D’Abbot for PM?

      Easy to be cynical of course….but have to fully acknowledge how ‘uplifted’ I was by the violent ‘terrorism’ of the BLM extremists tearing our nations apart and stirring up racial division, dischord, disharmony and hate….and all supported by the BBC…..still relentlessly pumping out racist, anti-British, anti-white propaganda at every chance.


    • Guest Who says:

      More from BBC PR.

      Chose the Observer. Safe.


  10. Darcy3 says:

    Will the bbc censor the Queens Christmas message ?

    Or follow it with Dianne Abotts race baiting comments, drinking alcohol on the tube, with her criminal police assaulting son alongside whilst sacking any labour MPs who mention muslim rape gangs and abusing Jews, next we will find something Donald Trump has said …

    happy Xmas from the bbc


  11. pugnazious says:

    Heard on the BBC last week…a professor being interviewed on 5 Live about likely lockdown in London…asked is it necessary? She replied well yes because the previous lockdown hadn’t worked…so we need a lockdown….coz that’ll work huh!? The BBC presenter didn’t notice, lol, the complete contradiction.

    And the madness just gets madder.

    Tier 4 lockdown introduced because erm, national lockdowns don’t work…from Telegraph…

    ‘“It was noted that VUI-202012/01 has demonstrated exponential growth during a period when national lockdown measures were in place.”

    Concerns about the threat posed by the new variant, which has fuelled soaring cases of Covid in London and the South East, led the Prime Minister to introduce a new “Tier 4” for such parts of the country, complete with orders to “stay home”.’

    Ever think we’re just being lied to and the government just wants a lockdown and will invent a reason to do so?

    Consider Hancock stating that Tier 4 may have to be imposed for months until a vaccine is fully operational…and we all know that even with a vaccine roll out they’ll think up some new excuse to continue locking us down until next Christmas and then continue it into 2022 to ‘protect the NHS’ in the flu season….just what has the government been doing for 9 months to bolster the NHS and help it cope with any surges, real or imaginary?

    Watch this video and listen to the man telling us that decisions to lockdown were taken too early and the data ‘retrofitted’ to back up those decisions…we know out-of-date data was also used to justify the second lockdown when the latest available data showed cases were dropping and the ‘mutant’ variant of covid 19 is being hyped to scare us and justify cancelling Christmas…more to save Boris’s face than to save anyone’s life in the face of remorseless media pressure to u-turn…as he did with the first lockdown which he imposed because of that pressure….so much of it from the BBC.


    • StewGreen says:

      I think it is plausible that something strange has popped up
      – One scenario is that a superstrain has popped up
      – or maybe the same chains that got the first wave are getting infected.

      Where were we ?
      Liverpool had in bad, but was coming out of it.
      Manchester still had it, Hull was getting a second wave.
      But 2 weeks passed and they were both well down .

      Then we look and something was happening in Italy, Germany and Sweden
      .. was it just the winter effect ?
      Then we look and we’d expect with the northern towns falling the UK numbers should fall
      but they didn’t
      .. next thing Boris Gang are running around like headless chickens.

      Our neighbour has swallowed off Sky
      “You stand a one hundred in 240 chance of getting it”
      …Well that is meaningless
      cos over a 1000 years most of us would get it.
      In guess he means that this week in some areas 400 in 100K have it ie 1 in 250 people in that area.
      Now his daughter is not coming now on Saturday
      cos they go to her partner’s family on Christmas Day.


    • Van Helsing says:


      It seems that the ‘new’ strain of Covid has been doing the rounds for at least three months. Boris and co. would certainly have known about it – and its supposedly greater potential for transmission – when the plans for easing restrictions at Christmas were announced.

      So what’s changed? Boris and his coterie of fellow incompetents will no doubt say that the new strain has been responsible for a huge spike in the number of cases in the South East of England in recent days.

      But is this right? Or might it be that (a) people are massing in considerably greater numbers – in shops, public transport, cafes, restaurants and homes – due to the approach of Christmas, thereby facilitating transmission and (b) we’ve now reached the time of year when respiratory viruses tend to thrive. In other words, are the ‘experts’ yet again misinterpreting the data?

      And might there also be political elements to Boris’s volte-face? Might he and said coterie be concerned about the number of people who are reluctant to be vaccinated (hence the creation of a situation which ‘encourages’ people to consent to being jabbed)? Could there also be concern that allowing Christmas to proceed as originally planned would ‘upset’ adherents of other faiths, whose own annual celebrations were curtailed?

      As for the ‘new’ strain, it’s to be expected that a virus will mutate. Indeed, that can often be a good thing, as mutant strains have a tendency to be less hostile to their hosts than the original. It might be even be that Covid-19 eventually becomes little or no more serious than the common cold.


      • taffman says:

        Covid Ninja Mutant ‘turtles’. Apparently its already in Italy?


      • StewGreen says:

        One suggestion is that unlike the first wave
        many hospital operations are going on these days
        So that provides a bigger pool of possible NHS-Covid infections.


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  13. Darcy3 says:

    Of course as human nature dictates some are more equal than others


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  15. taffman says:

    Al Beeb – “New coronavirus variant: What do we know?”
    In reality they know nothing.
    I am very suspicious about this new strain or ‘Mutant Virus’ as it was referred to earlier.
    The EU will use this news put out by our Tory Government to shut down food supplies to the UK . An own Goal !
    Do they mean to starve us into surrender as a test of things to come should we dare to leave?
    Stand by for fortress Britain .


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  17. Darcy3 says:

    carry on bbc and itv putting fat black wimmin on as presenters

    its racist otherwise


  18. taffman says:

    Al Beeb – “Covid: Nations impose UK travel bans over new variant”
    Who is advising Boris on these medical issues , The Chuckle Brothers ?


  19. Fedup2 says:

    New thread