Midweek Thread 16th December 2020

Deal or No Deal Part – Whatever – thankfully for us the BBC continues to self harm . This time they’ve taken on a boxer who doesn’t want to be a ‘sports personality ‘ . Naturally the BBC ignores him .Meanwhile Joe Biden is the President Elect of the USA . Therefore the BBC narrative will change to ‘how long can the dementing old boy last? “ . Let’s see…

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358 Responses to Midweek Thread 16th December 2020

  1. Doobster78 says:


    • JohnC says:

      Funny, but these are usually much more sinister than the levity first suggests. They are created by the Left as deliberate attacks on the government. They don’t care how many die and to be fair to the government, there is no right way to handle this. They will get flack whatever they do.


      • Guest Who says:

        Important point.

        I followed JOE as they once created a funny video using, at the time, cutting edge video.

        Stayed with it as I realised that this was a well funded operation despite being Owen Jones’ actually talented Wolfie Smiff cousin.

        Few comparable ‘of the right’, but frankly Magic Grandpa or Sukeer’s team efforts serve better than any produced in mockery.


  2. taffman says:

    \\Coronavirus doctor’s diary: ‘Have I got Covid for a second time?’//
    Scare tactics by Al Beeb?


    • Guest Who says:

      This was fun up the social media pole and was so badly subbed it made no sense.

      Then the story…


      “John Wright of Bradford Royal Infirmary had tests in the summer which implied that he probably [how BBC is that?]had Covid without symptoms early in the pandemic. But last week he had a swab test that came back positive. So were those earlier test results misleading, or has he now had it twice?”

      Classic BBC phart in the wind and catch the perfume story.


  3. taffman says:

    “Brexit trade talks: Boris Johnson to speak to Ursula von der Leyen”
    He should have walked long ago.
    WTO all the way now, not playing around.


  4. StewGreen says:

    Statistics Guy is claiming
    a new mythbusting thread
    He has in the past been flaky.
    Today he claims that 75% of those counted as Covid admissions
    didn’t count themselves as Covid patients when they entered hospital.
    Rather they came into hospital for another reason and either picked it up there
    … or came up as positive in the hospital test even though they had no symptoms.


  5. StewGreen says:

    New Zealand still picking up 3-4 new cases at the border every day
    and vaccination doesn’t start until April


  6. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – yes, I know it’s late but I’ve been busy being distracted

    On the three hour weekday programme (only two on Saturday, nothing on Sunday) the TOADY Prog love to regale us with environmental stories. The planet is frying, there will be no water to drink, the Arctic, Antarctic and Greenland are losing ice, everywhere is flooded, wildfires are destroying forests, sea level rise will be above our heads in eighty years … and ….. we are killing off wild animals and the inhabitants of the natural world. The extinction is coming.

    Except it isn’t. I have actually lost count but more new species have been discovered this year and some are reported today both on TOADY and the web-site here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55339987

    Looking at that pic I wonder if it is the Walnut Wun on the hunt for a Conservative Government minister to tear apart?


  7. Laughing at Lefties says:


    It’s all falling into place now. The BBC and other mainstream media outlets will continue to pretend biden is president in waiting and there’s no fraud. A lot of people are going to be really confused when Trump is reinaugurated, and frankly the MSM should be treated as criminals engaging in psychological warfare.


  8. Fedup2 says:

    Well folks – this site is up and down like an Essex Girls’ undergarments ( no offence ) …..let’s hope for …stability …

    …. any way – not BBC but QUEST – this could be a first— QUEST has a footy show for the non prem clubs . Today it showed a stack of games . One of them was Exeter . quest being as woke as the rest of the rubbish it showed thick footy types ‘taking the knee’ – now at some matches the plebs are being let in…not many … so the booing could be heard at the kneeling . Quest bigged it up . One chap booed at Exeter . The woke kidult presenter was delighted that the boo er was identified and thrown out of the ground .

    I suppose plod will prosecute him for something . But I sat there and wondered about the restrictions people are now under and how ‘freedom’ is just washed away . I hope Exeter lost – could care less….


  9. Fedup2 says:

    This announcement might be a bit premature ( hopefully ) but in view of the poor performance of the site technology today I would like to wish everyone a Happy Christmas and if it’s really bad techy a better 2021 – particularly if you have been affected by the Chinese Virus – so be better Halifax .

    Thanks – ( me ).


    • Up2snuff says:

      And thank you, Fed, for moderating, Our Stew for providing all sorts of links and techie advice and the backroom bods without whom it would be a lot worse as a site than it is today. All your hardwork and good humour in the face of blatant Beeb bias – and techie problems – is appreciated.

      And that goes for the posters, too, even the irregular ones and the very irregular ones like maxi, Wildy and Piku.

      Happy Christmas and God bless everyone of us!


  10. StewGreen says:

    Thread about Ofcom being controlled by Stonewall super-pro-trans activist group.


    • StewGreen says:

      Connection : Today’s new equality speech from Liz Truss hit back at wokism
      She hinted that powerful special groups like Stonewall have driving too much.
      Then she named Rotherham
      ..strange the day after the Home Office tried to brush Rotherham victims under the carpet

      Paragraph from her speech


      • StewGreen says:

        More of that speech

        The bit after Rotherham
        Although time and time again, the Left’s ideas have been shown to fail, they still pervade our body politic.

        Study after study has shown that unconscious bias training does not improve equality, and in fact can backfire by reinforcing stereotypes and exacerbating biases.

        That’s why this week we announced we will no longer be using it in government or civil service.

        Whether it’s “affirmative action”… forced training on “unconscious bias”… or lectures on “lived experience”… the Left are in thrall to ideas that undermine equality at every turn.

        The absurdity was summed up just this week by the Mayor of Paris being fined for employing so many female managers she had breached a quota.

        By contrast, the Conservative Party has elected two female leaders, and has a Cabinet with the highest ever level of ethnic minority representation.

        We have done this not by positively discriminating … but by positively empowering people who want to go into politics and opening up our Party to people of all backgrounds.


        • LastChanceSaloon says:

          “and opening up our Party to people of all backgrounds”
          Even Conservatives?


      • StewGreen says:

        We will not limit our fight for fairness to the nine protected characteristics laid out in the 2010 Equality Act… which include sex, race, and gender reassignment.
        While it is true people in these groups suffer discrimination, the focus on protected characteristics has led to a narrowing of the equality debate that overlooks socio-economic status and geographic inequality.

        This means some issues – particularly those facing white working-class children – are neglected.


    • Guest Who says:

      No idea who he is.

      Seems there is a list.

      And I am already on it.


  11. Fedup2 says:

    Twitter watch
    Apparently one of the main common side effects of having the covid vaccine is the inability to not keeping talking about it ….


  12. StewGreen says:

    Local radio was pushing hard lockdown all day
    Then radio Lincolnshire aired a younger doctor
    who said no, he was taking his 4 year old son down to London at Christmas to play with his cousin
    cos 10 months of no contact is too much
    and you can’t hide from Covid all the time.

    He didn’t get into stuff like being young he and his son could get Covid anyway and not be harmed.

    On Talk radio said it make sense for him to see his wife’s family this week
    and 8 days later his own mother/father
    cos with the space in between he wouldn’t be likely to be infectious at Christmas.


  13. Eddy Booth says:

    Rishi Sunak extends furlough scheme for another month


    Holly Muldoon is the co-founder of RubyLemon, an entertainment and event staffing agency based in London.
    “She welcomes Mr Sunak’s announcement, which will mean her office team can be furloughed for longer, but says it’s also a worrying sign.
    It’s good to know we’ve got a bit of support there, but it’s a bit devastating. Realistically if it’s extended until April, this means we’re not going to get back to work until at least May,”

    Err actually I think you can return to work of your own free will before then, but i guess she’s nailed it – why bother..


  14. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Trade talks in ‘a serious situation’ says Boris Johnson”
    \\He warned that “time was short” and that a no deal scenario was “very likely” unless the EU position changed “substantially”.//

    Three years ago we had this ……………..
    “The clock’s ticking on Brexit talks, EU warns UK”


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      “He warned”
      “Get Brexit done”, was the slogan.
      Boris is very lucky to have succeeded the dancing traitor otherwise his, less than useless, performance would look even worse.
      I do hope he will not return in a couple of days carrying “a piece of paper” which is not Brexit.


      • taffman says:

        Boris has just had this warning……….
        ‘Just a few hours’ left to agree Brexit trade deal, says Michel Barnier

        Reminder : In 2016 we voted to leave not for any grubby deal.


  15. StewGreen says:

    R4Today news
    – The 300 Nigerian child hostages have been released
    no one knows what the government gave the kidnappers
    ..and they often gave conflicting numbers

    – The anti-trans activist has had her conviction overturned
    …(yeh but I reported that on Wednesday here )
    “after she called a trans a pig in a wig”
    (wow BBC actually reported the words instead of dancing around)

    – BT Outreach creating lots of jobs
    (Since the corp usually uses contractors ..I presume all it is doing is bringing contactors in house )

    – Here’s Harrabin on electric cars
    ..(No ..off )


    • StewGreen says:

      Wednesday not, It was further back than that
      I got the news from a tweet dated Dec 10th


    • JimS says:

      The third paragraph of the BBC version of the story contradicts your presumption.

      “To achieve this, BT’s Openreach division is recruiting 2,500 people for engineering jobs and estimates its construction partners will take on 2,800 more.”

      OpenReach kindly provides a photograph of a large ginger lady with a butch hair cut in support. I bet the BBC will find a use for that one again!


      • StewGreen says:

        Jim yes maybe my presumption was wrong.
        But in the worst PR universe, maybe it mean that BT expanding Open Reach by 2,000 jobs overall
        starting by bringing 2,500 contractor staff in house
        and thus causing their contractors to recruit need to recruit 2000 staff to cope with the increased programme.


  16. Fedup2 says:

    Well here we are again – the site is back . I have no idea why reliability has gone but there it is .

    Be careful if you are making a long post as it might be difficult to get it onto the site ….
    Meanwhile – is it really the last roll of the pantomime dice for trade negotiations? Is it just being done to get us to accept anything ?


    • StewGreen says:

      Boris hasn’t caved yet
      but maybe he’s just arranging even more giveaways to the EU.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, for a long while yesterday I was getting Error 523 notices with one 524 thrown in for good measure. Hope this helps.

      It’s a server issue apparently.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2 old chap – didn’t you know our site is on the Russian Target List ?
        I’m just hoping for a bit of stability now …. maybe the test will be the Weekend Thread … coming later tonight – subject to events ….


  17. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I keep hearing that it’s the fishing which is holding the deal up with the eu.
    Does that mean we’ve given in on all the other parts and they (Brussels ((or Brissles)) are are expecting the climbdown to then present us with the brino that they want but not what we voted for.


  18. Fedup2 says:

    Maybe theyll ask cameron for tips on how to deal with the EU….. but at best it will be a fudge to allow the French Fisher People to carry on destroying UK fish for the next 10 20 30 years so that all current politicians are all gone ..


  19. Guest Who says:

    So as the BBC, Graun, Indy, etc set the hounds on a minister doing her job, W1A’s plucky soldier tells them how beastly life can be.

    With photo.

    Does Timmeh! still have the Range Rover and squad Lord Tone waved about to show how in danger he was too?


    • StewGreen says:

      “In March I was the focus of those who oppose the very existence of the BBC – and, by extension, me. ”

      That sentence sounds wacky.
      Kwik Save and Somerfield no longer exist
      but their ex staff go on living.

      Charities use a PR trick of focuses on the story of one child for their poster.

      Are the BBC Disinformation team not doing the same with Mariana ?
      Making her their poster child
      when in fact there’s a whole team of mostly white men.

      Genuine death threats should not be mixed up with death threats that are just wacky tweets.
      Which is what Mariana’s article does

      That dead northern Ireland journalist had actual armed gunmen against her. Not just Twitter accounts run by 13 year olds.
      Or people in people in the care of social workers.


    • StewGreen says:

      ” I stayed up until two in the morning, blocking as many accounts as I could to stem the relentless flow of messages.”
      That’s bonkers
      one guy might send you 1000 messages from 1000 accounts you are not forced to read them
      It’s perfectly easy to have the setting to “only show messages from friends”

      You don’t have to sit up half the night just cos you are getting spam


  20. G says:

    “US cyber-attack: Hack of government agencies and companies poses ‘grave risk’”


    I feel a, ‘State of Emergency’ coming on………….

    Quite rightly in my view.


  21. AsISeeIt says:

    Crush their sombreros

    If it crossed your mind recently that the Great British public might be a little… how can I put this politely… gullible, then there’s news reports today that will tend to confirm your suspicions.

    I’m not just referring to Chinese Flu headlines such as: ‘Third lockdown looming after Christmas as 38m are pulled into Tier 3’ (Telegraph). You wonder whether I’m a lockdown sceptic? Well, I’m sceptical about anything and everything I’m told, unless I can implicitly trust the source or I’ve seen good evidence for what I’m being told. As for me trusting our public health experts and the politicians, at this point in time I’d happily crush their sombreros.

    Now here’s the sort of tosh that we the public are supposed to believe. The Metro, the giveaway advertising sheet, proposes: ‘Just scraps for carers. 39% of nurses say they have missed meals because they are so poorly paid’ – what, not 40% or 38%? We’re sure it’s 39%? And when interrupted from their crucial role ‘…helping Britain battle covid…’ these nurses said “survey you say, yes of course I’ve got time to take a survey” – as we all would whilst engaged 24/7 on the front lines fighting the pandemic.

    The BBC’s on-line press review makes an interesting comment on this story: ‘The Metro leads on a survey that suggests four out of 10 nurses are struggling financially and go without meals or rely on food banks’ – so which is it, do they go hungry or do they use the food bank? It can’t be both, so what’s the percentage breakdown? Of course, we’re not talking about true facts and reality here. This is the emotive stuff of political campaigning.

    Let’s move on to a report in the Times: ‘Rees-Mogg condemns Unicef food parcels’. This story isn’t quite what it might appear from the headline. Our buttoned-up bespectacled and double-breasted Brexit MP for the Eighteenth Century isn’t being mean to the hungry African babies. Far from it. Moggy utters no floccinaucinihilipilification on that score. [the action or habit of estimating something as worthless]. By the way, he is such a keen pupil of our parliamentary constitution that although an avowed Anglo-Catholic I’m willing to bet Rees-Mogg supports Antidisestablishmentarianism. [opposition to the disestablishment of the Church of England] I could go on in this vein but it would involve mention of obscure Welsh railway stations. I digress.

    The Times report reveals this campaigning UN agency together with local campaigning charities is targeting Britain by sending food parcels to the London Borough of Southwark.
    Charitable and aid organisations run by middle class managers, raised on the university mother’s milk of cultural Marxism, undertaking unnecessary diversionary charitable activity just so as to court headlines for the gullible such as “UN food parcels for Tory oppressed London children” – who would have thunk it?


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      It might be a good thing if some nurses go without meals. Most of the ones in the local hospital are clinically obese, not helped by having nothing to do for much of this year other than slowly shuffle around in herds looking for pies. Apparently being obese is not good for a variety of things, including susceptibility to Covid-19. Angels… yes, many of them, but rather large angels nonetheless…


    • theisland says:

      Re: UNICEF, Sultana, Rees-Mogg and Starmer (peeping out from behind the settee).


      Zarah Sultana
      (Coventry South) (Lab)
      For the first time ever, UNICEF, the UN agency responsible for providing humanitarian aid to children, is having to feed working-class kids in the UK. While children go hungry, a wealthy few enjoy obscene riches: from Tory donors handed billions in dodgy covid contracts, to people like the Leader of the House, who is reportedly in line to receive an £800,000 dividend pay-out this year. Toggle showing location ofColumn 394Will he give Government time to discuss the need to make him and his super-rich chums pay their fair share, so that we can end the grotesque inequality that scars our society?

      Mr Speaker
      I do not like to personalise too much in the House. I understand that Members want to get things on the record, but I want to show at least some kind of Christmas spirit at the moment.

      Mr Rees-Mogg
      It is a real scandal that UNICEF should be playing politics in this way. It is meant to be looking after people in the poorest and most deprived countries in the world, where people are starving and there are famines and civil wars, and it makes cheap political points of this kind, giving £25,000 to one council. It is a political stunt of the lowest order.

      What have this Government done about child poverty? We are committed to our manifesto pledge to reduce child poverty. We have expanded free school meals to all five to seven-year-olds, benefiting 1.4 million children. We doubled free childcare for eligible working parents and will establish a £1 billion childcare fund, giving parents the support and freedom to look after children. We are spending £400 million of taxpayers’ money to support children, families and the most vulnerable over winter and through 2021. Between 2010 and 2018-19, there were 100,000 fewer children in absolute poverty in this country. This is a record of success of conservatism and UNICEF should be ashamed of itself.

      @Keir_Starmer 19h [tweeting Guardian article]
      We’re the sixth richest country in the world.
      It is shameful that UNICEF is having to ensure our children are fed.


      • Up2snuff says:

        ti, Keir Starmer (former head of the Crown Prosecution Service) is being very economical with the truth, here:
        “@Keir_Starmer 19h [tweeting Guardian article]
        We’re the sixth richest country in the world.
        It is shameful that UNICEF is having to ensure our children are fed.”

        From memory, the UK is not even in the top 20 of the richest nations in the world. Even while still in the EU, I do not think we are sixth richest of the 28 and certainly not if you include the rest of Europe’s nations.

        Perhaps Starmer is being un-lawyer like with words: confusing or conflating GDP with riches?

        We were the sixth largest economy in the world but are, iirc, soon to lose that spot as well.


    • StewGreen says:

      ‘39% of nurses say they have missed meals because they are so poorly paid’

      That does NOT seem credible
      A typical nurse earns £12 an hour
      I could survive on a £1/day for food
      and I reckon you could feed an entire family on £6/day without trying too hard.

      Now some nurses might have debt at the end of the week, but that would be from exceptional costs like sky high rent etc.

      There are 725K registered nurses in the UK
      There are 10 x 7s in 70
      So 40% of 700K is about 280K
      Does the UK have 280,000 hungry nurses ?


      • StewGreen says:

        “This survey from Nursing Notes and Nurses United ”

        Who are Nurses United ?
        “A grassroots organisation for nurses by nurses. ”
        More like a front for something … Marxists would be the usual suspects

        Who are Nursing Notes ?
        Online nursing newspaper launched in 2015 led by Matt Bodell*
        ” operated by a group of registered nurses
        wholly owned and operated by indeMedia ” expect that it’s the same front as above
        * Bodell didn’t rate Corbyn, but his tweets are very anti-Tory


        • StewGreen says:

          What you’d want to see is the question that elicited the 39%
          but I can’t find it
          The survey has been removed from the Indemediasurvey
          and all can see is they front page in dozens of language versions.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Where were UNICEF after WW2?

      I think children in Britain were much more in need then.


    • Banania says:

      Of course, we’re not talking about true facts and reality here.
      This looks like a job for Marianna Spring.


  22. Fedup2 says:

    I might get shouted down on this – but id love to see a real ‘expose ‘ of our wonderful angel nurses . I could list my dislikes but wont .
    But just a little example – moving drink away from bedridden patients to save on having to change bedding and pads ….

    … or the ones who go off to do ‘agency ‘ work instead of working the NHS which trained them ….

    Truth would be good


    • AsISeeIt says:

      One is forced to ponder just what sort of image of our angels the Metro frontpage pic of nurse Naomi is seeking to portray?

      ‘Nurse Naomi relied on food banks to feed her son’

      Heaven forfend we enquire as to Mr Nurse Naomi the child’s father?

      As for the angelic Naomi, 32, ‘who suffered long-covid’ (whatever that’s all about?) of our No Hope Service, what’s going on with that off-one-shoulder bra strap exposing look? I do believe I spy a little clip on mic at her neck, so let’s blame the sound people who assisted with her interview for disheveling her outfit.

      But what do we make of the hairdo? Tell us where you had that mess done luv and we’ll sue them for you.

      Something about the way she presents tells me she don’t do the once famous hospital bed corners.

      But I’m being naive. The look, I guess, is supposed to represent harassed and over worked and still a bit dickie with the long covid thingy.

      Your life in their hands. Or… What’s the bleeding time? As James Robertson Justice once roared at the young Dirk Bogarde.


    • JohnC says:

      I remember the tremendously unfunny Les Dennis saying how he did something very bad (can’t remember what) at the tremendously unfunny Neil Morrisey when Neil was porking his wife and he said how not a single newspaper reported it because ‘it didn’t fit the story’.
      That’s how much of a lie our news actually is.


  23. G says:

    Our, “Worlds Most Trusted Broadcaster” lies and deceit again:


    All negative reporting needless to say. See a breakdown of the actual evidence on either MedCram or, in the UK, Dr John Campbell and judge whether the BBC’s reporter Michelle Roberts (qualifications?) is in any way being truthful.


  24. G says:

    Anybody hear the 0800 R4 News this morning?

    A fleeting mention of a court case I did not catch regarding a (Appeal?) court narrowing down the police’ interpretation of, ‘Hate Speech’. It would be important to analyse the case for future reference. Certainly for most here. I cant find mention of it on the BBC’s website.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I’m going to read that report over the final weekend of my house arrest . Today is day 8.

      I’m noticing more stories about people who are going to be lone at Christmas because of covid – mainly in the telegraph …but the comments can be brutal from those who are alone al the time – especially the crap about ‘adverse affect on mental health ‘… blah ….
      At least they’ll have the BBC to entertain and inform them….


      • G says:

        Have you actually tracked it down?


        • Fedup2 says:

          No – usually it would be on the excellent and free BAILII but its not there yet . Maybe the end of friday ? I hope there is a dissenting judgement but the quality of law lords and what it was since it went fully political woke


        • Fedup2 says:

          Found it – it’s a court of appeal care – Scottow v CPS.

          With a bit of luck it will go ‘up the road ‘ to the law lords – but they are more likely to ban something rather than uphold freedom these days – unless it’s Islamic terrorists of course…


  25. Guest Who says:

    Wonder when the bbc will establish its new specialist department and Marianna of Diversity for this new threat to public gullibility?


  26. Guest Who says:

    Oh yes… he’s not going to lower himself to tackling this without proper forces being marshalled.


  27. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Regarding the nurses having to use food banks.

    About a year ago I looked up the starting (minimum) pay for a nurse. It was £25,000 and that was outside London.
    Nurses are supposed to be intelligent, don’t they need a degree?, so how can they not live on the large wage they get.

    As for foodbanks.
    I’m sure some people are grateful for them but there’s so many of them now along with lots of new charity giveaway organisations popping up all over the place (Rashfordisation?) such as bags of Christmas presents for children who would otherwise get nothing, that they must be running out of starving children to hand out the freebies to.

    And the threat of lockdown 3.
    Why doesn’t Boris set the covid a deadline like with the eu as we’ve all seen how effective that is at getting results.
    Maybe give the virus a Jan 1st deadline to end.
    He could then use the dominion counting machines to prove to us that the virus is finished and that’s that and we should accept it and just get on with our lives.


    • Guest Who says:

      Rashfordisation is a good term.

      News is mostly about people.

      Most people are normal folk, doing normal stuff, fair and square.

      That… is not newsworthy.

      This has now confronted a media blob utterly bloated beyond reason by platforms and staff that need content.

      Any content. But ‘newsworthy’.

      So the crazies fill the void, and when there are not enough of crazies, they move on to the opportunists who, being savvy and opportunistic, have been waiting for them with all they could ever need.

      Look at the £25k food parcel stunt.

      I know Marianna won’t.


  28. G says:

    “Jessica at Full Fact”.
    I give you the most recent alert I received earlier.


    Please tell me If this, “alert” left you chuckling at how gullible (I’d really say ‘stupid’) people are.


    • Peter Grimes says:

      It’s even worse over the pond!

      DT’s enemies, including the ‘beauties’ of Al Beeb, deliberately lied about his comments on the therapeutic qualities of HCQ and his suggested use of it. Seems DT was right and the UnDems and their tame attack dogs, wrong.



    • StewGreen says:

      Fact-checking = Selective Fact spinning

      The fact they selected to spin was that some people on the internet got confused about where the first 2 vaccine people LIVE
      and where they were getting the vaccinations.
      Saying oh how can the same nurse be in two towns.

      A million people saying wrong things in the internet everyday
      It’s no big fact check to SELECT a couple, and claim that means you have debunked every antivaxxer argument.
      It’s an obvious straw man and thus strengthens antivaxxers.


  29. digg says:

    I smell a rat!


    This looks like a direct attack on Boris to me… Couldn’t be Brexit revenge from the Globalist cabal could it?


  30. StewGreen says:

    Radio For Red&GreenActivists
    Very late posting cos it bounced when I tried to post it 48 hours ago

    Fri : Woman’s Hour : We meet two more women from the Woman’s Hour Power List: Our Planet.
    Judy Ling-Wong is the founder and Honorary President of the Black Environment Network,

    and Zarina Ahmad is a Climate Trainer at CEMVO Scotland.
    They’ve both dedicated their work to making the environmental sector a safer and more inclusive place for ethnic minority groups, and they join Jane to discuss the gains made and the work still to do.

    8pm Thu R4 “The Climate Crisis: Are We Moving Fast Enough?
    China has set a target for net zero CO2 emissions, and the US will shortly.
    The two countries represent over 40 per cent of global emissions.
    But are we moving fast enough?

    – Mark Maslin
    – Byford Tsang of the climate change think tank E3G
    – Pete Ogden, who worked on climate change in the Obama White House, now at the UN Foundation
    – Dr Gabrielle Walker, a writer and consultant to private industry on climate change adaptation”


    10am Thu Radio4 *climate comedy*
    Environmental filmmaker and Woman’s Hour power lister Franny Armstrong thinks it’s time for a bit of climate comedy.
    Having spent the best part of two decades making serious documentaries such as The Age of Stupid, Rivercide and McLibel, Franny talks about reaching new audiences with her film Pie Net Zero, featuring fake news reporter Jonathan Pie.
    (That Pie Net Zero vid was in January 320K views ..not a lot)


  31. digg says:

    The more this lockdown circus rolls on, the more convinced I become that manipulation is going on at Global Level via WHO etc.

    I was puzzled by a comment by a senior WHO official advising against family Christmas gatherings.

    WHO represents the “World” the vast majority of whom don’t celebrate Christmas so could this be an attempt to chip away at both the holiday and what it represents?

    Christianity stands in the way of many of the Globalist’s ambitions for mankind under it’s “World Order” grand plan.

    I am sure they have been instrumental in getting rid of Trump and now are now trying to undermine Boris, The Conservatives and Brexit as all are at odds with their ambitions for Global Rule.

    Come the next UK elections I suspect we will see much the same manipulation going on here. Biased sympathetic media, smear stories, bad-mouthing, vote manipulation all emanating from back-offices in the UN and WHO,

    I think Trump could see this and hence started to pull away from both, leading to his demise.

    The future for mankind hangs in the balance and a way needs to be found to expose and take apart what is going on.


    • Old Goat says:

      Oh, I think that Doris is well on board with the Global Reset, hence his recent sea-change in attitude towards the green fiasco.

      He’s a bought and paid for member of the WEF and proudly wears his Schwab badge, as do many others, including Hancock.


      • Oaknash says:

        He was also bloody quick on his speech a few months ago to come out with the “build back better mantra” I wonder whether Princess Nut Nuts taught him that line – maybe a quick tweak on his fly zip every time he got it right.
        maybe it has become a bit of a Pavlovs dog reaction – every time she goes near Doris;s nether regions he cries out “build back better”

        Maybe the same technique was used to teach him the “we are following the science line” Must get very noisy and confusing in the PMs bedroom.


        • Up2snuff says:

          Certainly democracy is under threat in the EU, UK and USA. In the UK, the public services have discovered in the Pandemic how they can – and how easy it is to – undermine democratic government especially when helped by the MSM, the Civil Service and the devolution policies of previous governments.


  32. StewGreen says:

    It’s emerged that in February a Television producer who worked on ITV’s The Jeremy Kyle Show hanged herself after she struggled to find work when the programme was axed (following the ‘suicide’ of guest )
    Natasha Reddican, 31, took her own life after job interview didn’t take place

    Belfield’s new vid makes out it’s Kyles fault
    No the Mail story suggests it was not to do with guilt over the show
    but rather that she couldn’t find work.


  33. Nibor says:

    The pro BBC book The War Against The BBC

    This is Appendix A : the BBC Deprivation Study .

    Basically the book condenses a longish report by MTM media consultants who used 74 , seventy four , households and paid them not to receive the BBC .
    It concludes that most households , even those that were hostile to the license fee , wanted the BBC to remain in that funding mode once they did not use the BBC for nine days .

    I’m not sure about the validity of the report as there’s more about how fantastic the BBC is rather than the breakdown and methodology of the findings , but what the book doesn’t tell you is that the report was commissioned by one of the authors , professor Patrick Barwise .


  34. Guest Who says:

    This Dickey Chappell schtick is wearing thin.

    She should stick to lobbying for a Pulitzer for her feet exclusive.


    • JimS says:

      As I remember it, around that time, the BBC was putting up images of Trafalgar Square and telling us that it was the Cenotaph.

      Is that worth a ‘damning indictment’ from Ms. Selfie Spring?

      Doesn’t she realise that she sits inside a great big greenhouse that long since lost every pane of glass?


  35. StewGreen says:

    Greater Manchester Police to be placed into special measures after damning report

    Had failed to record 80,000 crimes in a year
    .. whilst closing other cases without proper investigation


    • StewGreen says:

      PAB can’t keep up. He’s putting out 3-4 police injustice videos each day.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The chief Constable has ‘stood down ‘ – presumably because he oversaw a force which failed to report 20% of crimes he will take a 20% reduction in pension …..

      …. talking of incompetent plod – Netflix has an over long 4 part documentary about the thankfully dead Yorkshire Ripper .

      Although Professor Hindsight featured prominently – the level of senior plod thickness was pretty breathtaking …..


  36. StewGreen says:

    US federal authorities have issued an unusual warning over a major suspected Russian cyber attack into computer systems around the world,
    The attack affected a server software called SolarWinds Orion, used by organisations across the world,

    Context : we’d never heard of Solar Winds until last week
    when people mentioned that the Dominion voting machines are hackable cos they use Solar Winds.
    According to ZeroHedge : Dominion told the Feds the machines don’t use Solar Winds, and then edited their website to take the Solar Winds logo off it.


    AFAIK this is not new news
    but 2 week old news that ITV only just got around to reporting.


    • Solomon Grundy says:

      Third party software is a nightmare for software engineers and IT managers. It’s impossible to ensure that the third-party application is free of vulnerabilities and you are dependent on that third party recognising a problem, fixing it and advising you the customer of updates in good time.

      No company can demand a third-party fixes bugs in a timely manner (but they can apply impossibly high standards to their own staff.) If the software suite (such as SolarWinds) is central to your IT implementation, your company is between a rock and a hard place.

      On top of that, software developers have become lazy. Instead of writing what is required, the use of publicly available tools is becoming the norm. (The software development environments positively encourage it. For example, Microsoft’s “Visual Studio” has the “NuGet” package manager.)

      If you are unaware of the extent of the problem, try visiting the American “National Institute of Standards and Technology” (NIST) web site. It maintains a vulnerabilities database:


      The search facility can list known issues with just SolarWinds software:


      I was a software engineer for 39 years and have no idea how any reasonably sized organisation can be free of vulnerabilities. (Before I retired, I worked for an organisation that contracted a company to perform an internal penetration test. It took 30 minutes before the domain administrator password was revealed using a vulnerability in a well-known multi-national organisation’s third-party product. At that point the hacker has won the battle and war.)

      The only secure computer is one that is switched off, encased in reinforced concrete and secured using a 24×7 armed guard.

      To quote the BBC’s former Crimewatch presenter Nick Ross, “Don’t have nightmares. Sleep well.” (I do – I’m retired.)


  37. Guest Who says:

    Sorely missed.

    What did he do?


  38. Fedup2 says:

    One less – so many more – column in the mail slagging off his pension provider?


  39. StewGreen says:

    Fukushima wind turbines to be demolished

    Total cost $500 million. Tax player’s money.
    “To commercialize wind power generation, the operational rate of a turbine must remain at 30% to 35% or more, according to the ministry.
    But the rates of the turbines off Fukushima had been around 4% to 36%”

    Harra reporting ? (rhetorical question)


    • JohnC says:

      Our government would just slip a bit more on the mysterious ‘green tax’.


    • Banania says:

      I wonder how many of our wind turbines will ever be dismantled? They will probably fall into disuse and just be left there, dangerous eyesores, like the wartime concrete still littering our coasts.


  40. Guest Who says:

    OT, but… thread.

    Guy clearly does not do irony.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Heart warming that corruption in the UK recognises corruption in Russia – at least Putin can save money buying peers when one of his own is there for everyone to see ….


  41. Guest Who says:

    Sure BBC News could loan him an old skinny dog to go with for the shoot.


  42. Guest Who says:


  43. taffman says:

    ‘Just a few hours’ left to agree Brexit trade deal, says Michel. Barnier
    How much is “a few hours” ? Barnier and the European Empire are relying on their ‘Fifth Column’ of ‘Remainers’ & ‘Rejoiners’ to do the dirty and get a surrender.


  44. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    There’s a Smokey Robinson song from the 60’s which sums Boros up.

    The Tiers of a clown.


  45. Guest Who says:

    Sopel in line for a one on one?


  46. Guest Who says:

    BBC – who else?

    News – good one.

    It’s “beyond belief” that plans for Covid testing at English secondary schools have been handled in such a “cack-handed manner,” Geoff Barton of the head teachers’ union said.

    It’s a quote, from a union leader.

    Next, Surkeer on something he has been told he might gain from.


  47. StewGreen says:

    ITV local news “fathers don’t talk to their sons about periods”
    ..Yes I’m sure families in my area want watch stuff when they are having their tea together

    Reported by Nitya Rajan


  48. StewGreen says:

    ITV Central news
    Who’s producing ?
    Tejinder Kaur
    bio “Programme edit 6pm Television.
    Manager/Recruiter/Diversity Champ.
    British Indian Awards winner. ”

    “Producing tonight’s @ITVCentral
    East Mids 6pm Television – join Matt and Yas for updates”

    She served up this hysterically non-funny comedian.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Do you wonder what atttracted third worlders like him to our country in the first place ? Maybe he should find a more comfortable country which doesn’t ‘do ‘ Christmas ?

      Or maybe ‘free ‘ tax subsidised medical treatment does it for him ?


  49. Guest Who says:

    Knob find Jake, or Jake know how a Tory gets on tv for a softy?


  50. Eddy Booth says:

    BBC’s headline
    Covid: Boris Johnson ‘hoping to avoid’ national lockdown
    My headline
    Schoolyard bully hoping to avoid stealing poor kids dinner