313 Responses to Start The Week 14th December 2020

  1. Guest Who says:

    Nick again letting others talk for him.


    • JohnC says:

      Another one whose twitter feed is a non-stop vendetta against Trump (with some BBC sycophancy thrown in).
      I’ve never know a group of people as intolerant to the views of others and as full of hate as the Left. They really should take a look in the mirror.


    • JohnC says:

      Another one whose twitter feed is a non-stop vendetta against Trump (with some BBC sycophancy thrown in).
      I’ve never know a group of people as intolerant to the views of others and as full of hate as the Left. They really should take a look in the mirror.


  2. StewGreen says:

    4p Radio 4 “Adrian Chiles tries to eat, drink, wear and travel British for a week.
    How self-sufficient are we as a nation and does it matter?”


    • Cooper_Man says:

      He could easily last a week without eating or drinking – period.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Cooper- if I recall this beeboid earns a living saying how great it is to have a Croatian passport every once in a while . Maybe after we cut ties on 31 December he will go live there and renounce his UK passport …..
        ….. of maybe UK TVL money will keep him here to slag off we ignorant brexiters ….


  3. The Sage says:

    Is anybody else on here getting cheesed off with the woke-focused questions being asked on University Challenge?
    UC is not hiding it, in fact there was a news release a while back trumpeting the change so that we now get questions about obscure female classical composers (I didn’t know there were any) and little-read ethnic minority authors and never-watched-and-arts-council funded film-makers.
    At least, the teams are still mostly male and the BBC hasn’t imposed gender/disability/ethnic quotas – well not yet, anyway.


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Absolutely correct Sage.

      I’ve mentioned this a couple of times on here and am glad others have noticed their very different types of questions.

      Some of the wimmin questions are about wimmin who are just about anonymous and they have to ask the question by extending it to a question about the place she lived or some contemporary person vaguely having some loose connection with the wimmin.

      I used to get between 20-25 answers correct each show but am down to about 15 now as I haven’t known what the question was about, much more obscure than the other 50 years or however long it’s been going on (since Bamber)

      Or maybe I’m just getting seniler.


      • Scroblene says:

        I gave up on University Gardener’s Countryphile Question Time when ‘The Young Ones’ spilt water all over my trousers!

        But that was when the awful BBC was actually funny!

        …not any more…


  4. Guest Who says:

    How… on earth…. is the bbc going to handle the fallout from not casting Sir Lenny as lead in ‘Wolf Hall, the Musical’?


    • JohnC says:

      Another movie which will get 8/10 for the rigged IMDB vote and 1/10 from all the latest user reviews after the initial fake 10/10 ones get old.
      Just like Black Panther.


    • Scroblene says:

      “Is that an Anne Boleyn of colour I see before me, dongle before my hand…”?

      ‘Sod off Hal, you’re p****d again”!


      • Deborah says:

        Saw photos of the black Anne Boleyn on the Daily Mail website. The drama will be on Channel 5. I think this means the BBC can make a drama about Martin Luther King and cast a white man, doesn’t it?


    • Northern Voter says:

      Maybe he could be cast as Guy Gibson’s dog in Dam Busters the musical.


  5. Guest Who says:

    Dude in with a chance at the Xmas party if he gets his facts right?


  6. theisland says:


    “Unconscious bias training” is being scrapped for civil servants in England, with ministers saying it does not work.

    About time. Now sack the person who suggested it in the first place.


    • Lefty Wright says:

      Yes, before I retired this kind of nonsense was known as Special High Intensive Training or S.H.I.T. It should be flushed away.


  7. s.trubble says:

    Things dont seem to be improving under Mr. T im Davie.

    If he,s been running things up flagpoles is it possible he has become entangled in the roping and is now upside down staring up at a blue flag with lots of stars!!

    A sort of blue star sky thinking.

    Anyway Mr Tim Davie…..why dont you re brand the bBC by simply adding the single word “anti” at the beginning.


    • JimS says:

      Easier to change ‘British’ to ‘Black’, after all British history is Black history innit?

      (Coming soon on AhPlayah)


  8. Jack in the Green says:

    Channel 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. A great homogenous blob of the same old story. On and on and on ad infinitum. Talking of latin, old Biggus Dickus wouldn’t get a look in at Woke Central. It’s a bit like this pc (geddit?) keyboard that keeps correcting me like some rabid Maoist child of the revolution. Anyway I digress. The black Anne Boleyn is almost upon us and I therefore demand to play the part in the, no doubt, upcoming film bio of Harry Belafonte as I am not black and I cannae sing. Cultural misappropriation rules will magically (like VAR) apply, thereby making a mockery of any sense of these things being a two way street. Anyway, I’m off to learn my lines.


  9. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Sometime around Easter, when the weather is warmer, you would expect a big drop in covid cases and deaths just like the graph showed last summer and we were encouraged to go out and eat and spend.

    This coincides with the time when lots of people will have been vaccinated, especially the more vulnerable who would have been featuring on the stats.

    Expect the government to give themselves a big pat on the back when the summer stats come out and show the expected summer drop.
    They will applaud the nhs and tell us all “didn’t we do well”
    They (politicians) will take all the credit and say they handled everything very well.

    And so many sheep will believe them.


  10. taffman says:

    “Brexit: UK wants EU trade deal but not ‘at any cost’ – Boris Johnson”
    I don’t remember “Trade Deal” being on the ballot paper in the 2016 Referendum, do any of you ?
    Its time that this ditherer ‘got Brexit done’!
    British industry is dying of uncertainty.


    • taffman says:

      An EU trade deal is imminent ?
      “A Trade Deal” is only a back door way to a BRINO, a means to keep us in the EU.


  11. taffman says:

    “UK offers ‘mutual aid’ to Covid-hit Welsh hospitals”
    Its about time that the Welsh Assembly was abolished. Its wasting Welsh tax payers money and fast becoming dictatorship that does not listen to its people.


  12. taffman says:

    “Unemployment: Wales sees highest rise across UK”
    The Welsh Assembly is not working . Abolish it and save the money.


  13. Guest Who says:

    If only there was a BBC Mutti slot.


  14. theisland says:


    A comment on “Biden’s rambling angry speech” by David Vance (4 mins).


  15. StewGreen says:

    White Power protestors take over Trafalgar Square
    ..police & establishment do nothig


    • BRISSLES says:

      There comes a point with all these demos and protests when you just want to say “oh, sod off, you don’t belong here, and we don’t want you”.


  16. Guest Who says:

    A lot of young blondes there.


    Maybe Marianna could check the claims?


  17. StewGreen says:

    ITV local news as ever much of it is promoting their other progs

    “On Wednesday evening at 11pm @itv
    looks back at some of the remarkable stories of the #coronavirus pandemic.
    When communities have come together, and frontline workers have inspired us all.”

    BTW They seemed to have configured it so certain items like Covid reports are configured to each of the 5 TV transmitters in the region
    That’s a step up from the East and West editions.


  18. digg says:

    I now realise that the BBC, Guardian and Independent “baiting” of the Government over Covid Christmas plans has a hidden agenda.

    I think they are simply trying to stir up Muslim resentment and hopefully even a backlash if Christmas is not cancelled altogether..

    So we can look forward to thousands of the chosen ones gathering in London in protest if Boris doesn’t put the screws on families plus detailed drawn-out articles on cherry-picked followers of the faith who contract the virus after Christmas even though they would never have set foot in a Christian household.

    For Christ’s sake several hundred people wandering around every ASDA, Sainsbury’s, Morrisons, Waitrose (other supermarkets are available) most of the day is much more likely to be a trigger rather than Uncle and Auntie visiting from their bungalow in Shropshire.


  19. Guest Who says:

    Talking of pushing ag… ramming agendas down throats.

    BBC Today Programme

    Pixar’s latest film Soul is its first with a black lead character 🎬📽️

    Co-director and Pixar’s chief creative officer Pete Docter says the animation industry is “very white” but more diversity and representation is to come.


    Not fully until Pete is ready to retire, presumably.


    • JimS says:

      One of the best characters in Tom and Jerry!


      Originally voiced by African-American Lillian Randolph, she lost her job following a campaign by the NAACP. She said that the complainant was “only one-eighth Negro and not qualified to speak for Negroes.”

      Nothing changes.


  20. StewGreen says:

    BBC local news

    Covid speaks to the Hull region manager
    “oh it’s still risky in Hull with 200 cases/100K in Hull ..not happy about this 5 day Christmas break”
    FFS ..that rate is 2 positives in 1,000
    It does depend how many are mild/false cases being picked up by over sensitive testing.
    Most of the dangerous people won’t be on the street.

    Oh now item talking about “Conspiracy Theorists”


    • StewGreen says:

      The expert just knee jerked lied.
      Qn “Have their been any side effects ?”
      Ans “No, there haven’t”

      That is incorrect two people suffered anaphylactic reaction, which was mild
      but now anaphylactic reactors are advised not to have the vaccine for now.
      I imagine that really it’s safe cos even if you did react, doctors are nearby.


    • Eddy Booth says:

      I blame posties walking around with shorts on and chavs with no coats at all, for speading the virus.😀
      Nothing to do with Xmas


      • BRISSLES says:

        OMG ! our postie looks like that too ! well, when we see one, as a postie is a rare occurrence in my road since the beginning of December – Covid don’t you know.


    • StewGreen says:

      Next item Climate Change cos it’s that reporter thinks he works for Greenpeace.
      “Wildlife after Brexit”
      featured RSPB, YWT , LWT
      “that future will be impacted by Climate Change”
      LWT guy “we are disappointed with the government pledges”
      “January’s new legal framework”


    • StewGreen says:

      Brief item : Former Coronation St actress Leandra Ashton and her mum Ylenia Angeli have taken their 97-year-old loved one home after weeks of trying to get her out of a residential house in East Yorkshire.
      One day even ended in Ylenia being handcuffed in the back of a police car

      Strange BBC didn’t mention the Skegness and Cromer lifeboats recusing ship after big accident


  21. Eddy Booth says:

    Universal credit: ‘I felt guilty claiming benefits for the first time’


    “I had this feeling of guilt, thinking about people out there that might need it more than me… I felt as though I didn’t deserve to be claiming benefits at this age,” says Rosalyn Jackson.”

    “Rosalyn, for example, received her first payment after nine weeks, due to problems verifying her identity.
    After accounting for rent and bills for her London flat-share, she has about £100 left each month.”

    If this is typical of today’s youth I despair.
    The new GOV.UK Verify id system and Universal
    Credit are both disgusting.
    9 week wait and then shes left with under £25 a week after bills ..

    “…try to make sure my food shop per week is £15 or less.”

    I guess we can’t expect any protest music like UB40 or The Clash coming from this generation..


    • Kaiser says:

      to be fair i had one hell of a job claiming UC for my 19 year old disabled son when six months after leaving college and he was volunteering at an animal sanctuary someone pointed out he was entitled to JSA

      Having never claimed a penny for anything in my life I honestly didnt know where to start and seemed to be stuck in a loop of see webpage phone number see webpage phone number ….

      do I feel guilty though ??

      nah b*ll*x its my taxes and I would rather he have £75 a week to pay for his bus fares , than pay for a gimmiegrant to get 1 more night in a 4* hotel


  22. Guest Who says:

    Soon to be much in demand at bbc director bistro near… well, the bbc.


    • BRISSLES says:

      Its meant to be ‘vegan’ apparently (?). My biggest laugh of the day was the Podcast this dopey pair are doing, promoting kindness and wellness – dear God.


  23. Guest Who says:

    As retweeted by Shelagh Foghorn.


  24. Guest Who says:

    Fact checking involved too.

    Guess the bbc are suddenly going to get super excited about Pete Buttkeig’s reward.


  25. Guest Who says:

    Interesting times.

    Good ones to be blonde.

    In media.


  26. Guest Who says:

    “That’s all we have time for…..”


  27. Guest Who says:

    Turf war erupts?


    • Guest Who says:

      Actually those distinctions are rather quaint, placing undeserved separation and obfuscation between the MSM and those they are every bit as bad as, but less hypocritical.

      Fake news is disinformation, especially propaganda.

      Fake news is misinformation, especially (self) censorship.

      The BBC is up to its ears in both, daily, now running a smokescreen as cover.

      I call BS. Likely powdering her nose in the green room being briefed by a deniable ‘sources who say’ research moppet.


    • JimS says:

      Don’t forget ‘no information’.

      Misinformation, disinformation and fake news, call it what you will at least it can be referenced to what you do know, (or what you know that you don’t know).

      But if no-one tells you that there are forests in North America or a Pope in the vatican you will never know that there are trees falling, bears defacating or pontiffs praying.

      Should one ever find out about these unreported events they always have the excuse that there is so much to report each day that they can’t cover everything. Someone being ‘misgendered’ in Wagga Wagga obviously justifies clearing the ‘front page’.


      • Guest Who says:

        A specialism of Marianna and BBC American BS.

        I am surprised she is not still on feet.


  28. StewGreen says:

    Ezra on the way UK says
    “look over there journalists are jailed in foreign countries,
    but people jailed for reporting in the UK don’t count as journalists”


  29. Guest Who says:

    Oo, Jon has sobered up and found a press release from…


  30. StewGreen says:

    President of the EU doesn’t know what European means
    … plenty of Europeans have been vaccinated since Dec 8the


  31. StewGreen says:

    Oh Missed black theatre doc

    I’ve been to the theatre hundreds of times, and used to train with black actors
    but no “black theatre” sticks in my mind
    It seems to me something stuck in a grievance bubble.
    Whereas someone like Little Richard, or Ritchie Prior you just enjoy the performance
    you don’t think about the skin colour much.


    • StewGreen says:

      FFS look at the Marxist thread of the speaker

      Narks me that arts people think the world owes them subsidies
      but no one subsidises engineers.


    • BRISSLES says:

      Look on the bright side, if there is a black theatre in the offing, then it will be ‘home’ for all black actors starting out, and maybe we wont get to see the rubbish ones that are now interspersed into dramas/films just because they are non-white. Casting directors will check out the wheat from the chaff and we’ll get to see those of the calibre of Denzil Washington et al.


  32. taffman says:

    “Virginity testing ban proposed by Richard Holden MP”
    Now just what group of people is this bill aimed at ?


  33. taffman says:

    “Coronavirus: France replaces lockdown with evening curfew”
    Is it because it comes out at night?
    Is Covid is Nocturnal ?


  34. digg says:

    White men are the most numerous child sex offender gangs say the home office via the Guardian.


    This is the biggest whitewash ever perpertrated

    Show me ONE instance of prosecution you slimy scum!

    Who the hell runs the “Hone” office?


    • StewGreen says:

      Prosecutions ?
      Yes the monks at Ampleforth college where James O’Brien’s dad paid for him to study.
      Jersey Children’s home, Mapperley Home in Nottingham
      .. Rolf Harris, Stuart Hall , Jimmy Savile
      but those were either not on street, or not gangs.


  35. StewGreen says:

    9pm R4 Mental Health show
    .. ‘Do racist experiences in childhood affect long term mental health ?’
    ..but then we enter the BBC Woke bubbleworld where words seem to have different definitions.

    So we are talking diversity here so I wonder who the guest will be ?
    and where he works ?
    Not one of your BBC London mates again .

    “Here’s a request from BBC journalist Rajan Datar”
    “Racism was rampant, racist graffiti everywhere , not like now
    “I would get called names every day”
    (Yes like happened to all of us, cos it’s life not special to non-whites )

    “I am worried that might resurface with refugee kids”

    “Here’s Prof Kam Bhui ”
    KB “Yes in Australia they have done research on bullying of the indigenous population”
    … funny why you’re NOT talking about the bullying of the *indigenous* population ?

    “In the UK there has been a reluctance to talk about RACE and RACISM”
    ..yeh right

    “Racism is important cos NO ONE is thinking about it
    .. there is a silence around race and racism .. people use the term bullying instead”

    “It leads people to think that life is not fair”
    .. Yes that is the nature of life , we are not all beautiful and intelligent
    and we can’t all get on BBC BAME-only shortlists.

    “Now prof Craig Morgan who is running a study into adolescent mental health ”
    CM “We are trying to understand mental health in more diverse groups”
    “Our study is in South London with a group that has a high proportion of ethnics”
    .. FFS London again .. that’s not diverse
    Diverse to you seems to mean “non-white”

    “there are 4,000 in our study and around 30% report experiencing racism … this maybe an underestimate”
    If he’s quibbling over the number , he’s not measuring it right.
    ‘there seems to be a correlation with mental health..and manifests in disruptive behaviour (chicken and egg there surely’? ..if someone mugs you , you might call him a racist word)
    “around a 2 to 3 increase in MH problems” wow

    “people are doing self auditing”
    ‘they go around trying to void the racism’
    .. Yes like we all go around trying to avoid muggers etc.

    AFAIK it’s white young men that have highest suicide rate.

    Rajan Datar “I think things are much better these days” I can imagine so
    “I do think BLM has encouraged a more open discussion”
    .. FFS has it ? It encourages BAME to make false complaints and whites to be afraid.



  36. taffman says:

    “Brexit: UK wants EU trade deal but not ‘at any cost’ – Boris Johnson”
    Didn’t he threaten to end talks on Oct 16 ?
    Will we actually be out on WTO on Jan 1 2021 ?
    I expect there will be ‘leaks’ of information about a sell out shortly ?


  37. Nibor says:

    More on the book The War Against The BBC .

    Still in the introduction.

    There a paragraphs titled
    The BBC is in Danger
    Five Challenges
    How Did We get To Here
    Where This Might Lead
    How and Why We came to Write This Book
    The Latest Attacks Since The 2019 General Election
    What This Book Is and What It is Not .

    The first para there tells of the increasing competition from technology and consumer trends . the authors claim that new technology increases the BBCs costs
    The second para gives the challenges , consumption trends ,cost increases ,attacks on its impartiality , disproportionate constraints on its ability to compete and innovate , funding cuts .
    Funding cuts to the authors are not increasing the licence fee .

    Which is why in the next para they rail against the abolishment of free licences to OAPs . They believe a free licence is a welfare benefit that should be funded by general taxation .

    The next para says that if the BBC is not funded “properly” then American giant media companies will dominate the world market .
    The next para says that as part of the Market Research Society , the UK proffessional association for market researchers theyve had the pleasure to hand out awards at annual events . as they chatted they were appalled by relentless and dishonest attacks on the BBC – with the country painfully divided by Brexit and the world awash with disinformation .
    The next para says that subscription is not viable , Dominic Cummings is against the BBC , the BBC is needed for Covid 19 info and its popular .

    The last para is the remit of the book and why they think everyone will regret the passing away or diminished BBC .

    The next chapter is What , Exactly is the BBC ?

    Stay tuned for more excitement .


  38. StewGreen says:

    ‘Yeh we took down your post
    cos it looks like it could be disinformation
    and the government will fine us if we don’t take down disinformation’


  39. Fedup2 says:

    The quiet hours – time to sneak out the Midweek Thread whilst no one stirs ( apart from Taffman ) ….