297 Responses to Start the week 7 December 2020

  1. taffman says:

    “UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson will travel to Brussels this week to meet European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in a last ditch effort to salvage a post-Brexit trade deal.”

    The last time a British Prime Minister went to Europe to get a Brexit Deal he came back with a packet of crisps and a can of Fanta.

    In the mean time, we get more illegals from across the Channel today.
    How much are we paying France ?


    • Lefty Wright says:

      So I guess it boils down to who has the largest testicles.
      Boris vs Ursula. I just hope it’s not 0-0


  2. StewGreen says:

    If an elderly person dies within 30 days of taking the vaccine
    .. will they have died with vaccine or from vaccine ?
    .. Or not counted at all ?


  3. StewGreen says:

    Guido : Kay Burley, Beth Rigby and 8 others repeatedly broke tier 2 restrictions
    by attending two restaurants together,
    despite not being from the same household, then going back to Burley’s house.
    This was to celebrate Kay Burnley’s 60th birthday


    • Jeff says:

      Oh please let this be true. It’s too delicious!
      I’m so sick of these holier than thou, sanctimonious virtue signallers. They finger wag and sneer and come down like a ton of bricks if anyone transgresses the covid conventions.

      I’m trying to imagine how this could get any better…
      Piers Morgan wasn’t there, was he?


    • StewGreen says:

      When you get caught in trouble
      use the trick of apologising for the minor legal thing
      .. and ignoring the big law break

      In this case 8 people at dinner
      + 8 people in your house

      She got triple ratioed so far.


      • BRISSLES says:

        Seems the most popular three little words have changed from I Love You to Error of Judgement ! Christ, how often have THOSE words been used in the last 9 months !


      • Peter Grimes says:

        The batshit mad BullyBurley doesn’t seem to be on line berating abject ministers on behalf of ‘her’ viewers this morning.

        Couldn’t be from shame, could it?


  4. StewGreen says:

    You can tear down statues, set fire to flags, march in military uniform,
    .. but if you boo some crybaby millionaires in shorts
    then the woke mob will come after you.


  5. StewGreen says:

    Wales and Independent Sage’s predictions


    • taffman says:

      Sage is a misnomer.


    • JohnC says:

      Having spent my career as a software engineer on projects such as fighter planes and rockets, I have had the ‘pleasure’ of working with several PhD qualified people on the teams.
      And without exception they have been complete liabilities. They are completely unable to relate their internal logic to that of the real world or grasp the concept of making balanced compromise decisions when theory meets the ambiguity of reality. They were all eventually migrated to positions which didn’t actually deliver anything concrete but produced lots of paperwork (like quality control).
      A situation I see now applies everywhere they can bluff their way in with fancy talk.


  6. StewGreen says:

    religious people are more equal than others
    says Shadow Faith Minister.


  7. StewGreen says:



  8. taffman says:

    “Brexit: MPs reinsert controversial sections of Internal Market Bill”


  9. BRISSLES says:

    Bloody typical. Big publicity how the vaccination programme starts tomorrow, and who has been chosen to be all excited on camera as amongst the first ? a couple of BAME’s. I bet when Colonel Tom was discovered to be white, the MSM were gnashing their teeth in disappointment. Never mind, they’ve still got Nadya.


  10. Dobyns says:

    This might be too close to home for some people’s comfort



  11. StewGreen says:

    Official UK statement saying the US election* results are not trustworthy

    * oh Venezuelan election results.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Don’t tell me, the Venezuelans used Dominion voting machines.

      Why not, they worked so well in Georgia, Philadelphia, Michigan and Wisconsin.


  12. Dobyns says:

    Submitted for your consideration …


    China Is National Security Threat No. 1

    (Op-Ed Piece in the Wall Street Journal.)

    Resisting Beijing’s attempt to reshape and dominate the world is the challenge of our generation.

    By John Ratcliffe
    Dec. 3, 2020 1:20 pm ET

    As Director of National Intelligence, I am entrusted with access to more intelligence than any member of the U.S. government other than the President. I oversee the intelligence agencies, and my office produces the President’s Daily Brief detailing the threats facing the country. If I could communicate one thing to the American people from this unique vantage point, it is that the People’s Republic of China poses the greatest threat to America today, and the greatest threat to democracy and freedom world-wide since World War II.

    The intelligence is clear: Beijing intends to dominate the U.S. and the rest of the planet economically, militarily and technologically. Many of China’s major public initiatives and prominent companies offer only a layer of camouflage to the activities of the Chinese Communist Party.

    I call its approach of economic espionage “rob, replicate and replace.” China robs U.S. companies of their intellectual property, replicates the technology, and then replaces the U.S. firms in the global marketplace.

    Take Sinovel. In 2018 a federal jury found the Chinese wind-turbine manufacturer guilty of stealing trade secrets from American Superconductor. Penalties were imposed but the damage was done. The theft resulted in the U.S. company losing more than $1 billion in shareholder value and cutting 700 jobs. Today Sinovel sells wind turbines world-wide as if it built a legitimate business through ingenuity and hard work rather than theft.

    The FBI frequently arrests Chinese nationals for stealing research-and-development secrets. Until the head of Harvard’s Chemistry Department was arrested earlier this year, China was allegedly paying him $50,000 a month as part of a plan to attract top scientists and reward them for stealing information. The professor has pleaded not guilty to making false statements to U.S. authorities. Three scientists were ousted in 2019 from MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston over concerns about China’s theft of cancer research.

    The U.S. government estimates that China’s intellectual-property theft costs America as much as $500 billion a year, or between $4,000 and $6,000 per U.S. household.

    China also steals sensitive U.S. defense technology to fuel President Xi Jinping’s aggressive plan to make China the world’s foremost military power. U.S. intelligence shows that China has even conducted human testing on members of the People’s Liberation Army in hope of developing soldiers with biologically enhanced capabilities. There are no ethical boundaries to Beijing’s pursuit of power.

    China is also developing world-class capabilities in emerging technologies. Its intelligence services use their access to tech firms such as Huawei to enable malicious activities, including the introduction of vulnerabilities into software and equipment. Huawei and other Chinese firms deny this, but China’s efforts to dominate 5G telecommunications will only increase Beijing’s opportunities to collect intelligence, disrupt communications and threaten user privacy world-wide. I have personally told U.S. allies that using such Chinese-owned technology will severely limit America’s ability to share vital intelligence with them.

    China already suppresses U.S. web content that threatens the Communist Party’s ideological control, and it is developing offensive cyber capabilities against the U.S. homeland. This year China engaged in a massive influence campaign that included targeting several dozen members of Congress and congressional aides.

    Consider this scenario: A Chinese-owned manufacturing facility in the U.S. employs several thousand Americans. One day, the plant’s union leader is approached by a representative of the Chinese firm. The businessman explains that the local congresswoman is taking a hard-line position on legislation that runs counter to Beijing’s interests—even though it has nothing to do with the industry the company is involved in—and says the union leader must urge her to shift positions or the plant and all its jobs will soon be gone.

    The union leader contacts his congresswoman and indicates that his members won’t support her re-election without a change in position. He tells himself he’s protecting his members, but in that moment he’s doing China’s bidding, and the congresswoman is being influenced by China, whether she realizes it or not.

    Our intelligence shows that Beijing regularly directs this type of influence operation in the U.S. I briefed the House and Senate Intelligence committees that China is targeting members of Congress with six times the frequency of Russia and 12 times the frequency of Iran.

    To address these threats and more, I have shifted resources inside the $85 billion annual intelligence budget to increase the focus on China. This shift must continue to ensure U.S. intelligence has the resources it needs to give policy makers unvarnished insights into China’s intentions and activities.

    Within intelligence agencies, a healthy debate and shift in thinking is already under way. For the talented intelligence analysts and operators who came up during the Cold War, the Soviet Union and Russia have always been the focus. For others who rose through the ranks at the turn of this century, counterterrorism has been top of mind. But today we must look with clear eyes at the facts in front of us, which make plain that China should be America’s primary national security focus going forward.

    Other nations must understand this is true for them as well. The world is being presented a choice between two wholly incompatible ideologies. China’s leaders seek to subordinate the rights of the individual to the will of the Communist Party. They exert government control over companies and subvert the privacy and freedom of their citizens with an authoritarian surveillance state.

    We shouldn’t assume that Beijing’s efforts to drag the world back into the dark will fail just because the forces of good have triumphed before in modern times. China believes that a global order without it at the top is a historical aberration. It aims to change that and reverse the spread of liberty around the world.

    Beijing is preparing for an open-ended period of confrontation with the U.S. Washington should also be prepared. Leaders must work across partisan divides to understand the threat, speak about it openly, and take action to address it.

    This is our once-in-a-generation challenge. Americans have always risen to the moment, from defeating the scourge of fascism to bringing down the Iron Curtain. This generation will be judged by its response to China’s effort to reshape the world in its own image and replace America as the dominant superpower. The intelligence is clear. Our response must be as well.

    Mr. Ratcliffe is U.S. Director of National Intelligence.


    • theisland says:

      A view shared by @COLRICHARDKEMP


    • JamesArthur says:


      Great article. Why are more countries not taking this threat seriously?
      Well, partly because the Chinese know they can buy most Western politicians and organisations. Look at the Universities..Cambridge best example
      And China has a long term strategy – the West doesn’t apart from destroying its own culture..

      Stop buying cheap Chinese crap is a good start, start investing in more local industries – make them world class.

      I have been trying to buy British tools and almost without exception it is impossible..and what do the manufacturers say…there is no market…WTF. The Chinese are making and selling them – so there is a market..it just you haven’t invested but shipped manufacture all overseas to make a short term buck…

      rant over…morning all


  13. Eddy Booth says:

    Fifa World Cup Qatar 2022: England, Northern Ireland, Scotland & Wales discover qualifying groups

    “The Republic of Ireland will come up against Cristiano Ronaldo’s Portugal in Group A, as well as Serbia, Luxembourg and Azerbaijan.”

    Why are the bbc obsessed with Ireland?
    I thought they’d voted leave a 100 years ago..


    • taffman says:

      Al Beeb is always obsessed with anything that is anti British. It should have the name British removed from its name.


  14. Guest Who says:

    Oh, Joy.


  15. Fedup2 says:

    Twitter watch

    On twitter there is an exchange between Andew Neill and a CNN interviewer about bashir gate . The consequences for the BBC may ( hopefully ) be more serious than a mere “
    Lessons will be learnt “ and a couple of resignations .

    Effectively brillo is accusing the BBC of causing the events which led to her death .


    • Guest Who says:

      This and Burleygate (the sad old bat, not the sad scruffy bloke) seeing the MSM turn on each other wonderfully.

      Now if Piers can just have an errant drunken whizz on a homeless person sleeping in the back of a lorry on blurry faked Mobly whilst at a BLM ri… mostly peaceful riot, all will be well.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I’m not a user of Sky anymore – but I can only assume that Burley will resign because she holds others to a ‘higher standard ‘ – how can she have any credibility if she breaks such serious rules herself ? But perhaps covid has different rules when it comes to the MSM bubble …


  16. Guest Who says:

    I learned of this via Ms. Spring.

    If the BBC only hire those who have experienced that which the write about, things could get very niche very fast. Well, even more.


  17. JohnC says:

    Just reading the BBC report on the nutter behind the Christchurch shootings.
    What strikes me the most of all about this is that I have NEVER seen such an in-depth analysis into motivation and background for such an attack in a single one of the dozens of Islamic terrorist massacres. And this is from nearly 2 years ago. The word ‘Muslim’ appears 8 times. It has not been used one single time in any report I have seen (and I check them all) of an Islamic terrorist attack – where it is absolutely relevant as it is their entire motivation.
    In fact, it wouldn’t even qualify as a terrorist attack by the standards applied to them. It is only ‘terror related’ when it is confirmed to be on behalf of a larger terrorist organisation.
    It’s the cold-blooded and deliberate hypocrisy which bothers me the most about the Left. Just what is their motivation to be so lop-sided ?.
    Is it simply to spite and bait their political enemies ?. Or is it a kind of self-loathing and guilt for being white ?.


    • Guest Who says:

      BBC Moaning Emole

      Manchester Arena attack ‘unpreventable’

      A public inquiry into the Manchester Arena child slaughter has found that the media-obsessed security services of the U.K. were too focused on not being accused of Islamaphobia and ignored the far greater threat to actual life and limb. Faith supremacists conspired to and killed scores of people, and various inquiries have come and gone, skirted real issues and been given cursory cover by MSM with highly diverse staff proportions and many cousins. Maintaining those failures should make such continued attacks likely and indeed more frequent, it determined. In fact as ME Faith leaders ask what on Earth is going on here in mosques, and the extent of the lone wolf pack vs. solo undetectable nutters is actually admitted currently, the national broadcasters will point anywhere else they can find and cite any daft distraction possible.

      Kids will be kids. Imams will be imams. Pols will be cowards. Media will drive divisiveness. As ever.

      A bloke the BBC knows but won’t talk to, might think the report confirmed the establishment has been overly deferential to the radical Muslim community instead of shining a light on it and offering it every platform opportunity to propagandise.

      I can paste what was actually posted by the national broadcaster if anyone would like to see it.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Guest – yes please paste ….thanks

        The report will be watered down but still damning – be reported on for about 2 hours and then shifted to ‘local news ‘ …… and forgotten – even when the next multiple slaughter takes place .


        • Guest Who says:


          Mosque attack ‘unpreventable’

          A public inquiry into the Christchurch massacre* has found that New Zealand’s security services were too focused on the threat from Islamist extremism and ignored the far right. White supremacist Brenton Tarrant killed 51 people at two mosques in March 2019, and the inquiry criticised authorities for failing to enforce proper checks on firearms licences, which allowed him to accumulate a massive arsenal of weapons. However, correcting those failures wouldn’t have made it possible to prevent the attack, it determined.

          The imam of the Al Noor Mosque, one of the two targeted, said the report confirmed authorities had been overly suspicious of the Muslim community instead of protecting it.

          * https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55211468?

          Ported to the morning email from the BBC Asia section.

          Even for the BBC I was surprised by this.

          The timing, equivalence attempt and shoehorning is blatant.

          Google offers this as the first BBC link under ‘Manchester bombing’


          I could find no reference via BBC search to the shock of the ME faith leader at mosque extremism here.

          I did find this promoted first:


          The ongoing revelations to Manchester are on other MSM recent feeds.



          • Fedup2 says:

            It’s just unannounced (secret ) government policy to encourage the MSM to non – or under report of the problems the Muslims they invited into the UK rather than confront them –
            So pages of comments land up on sites like this one -of non reporting – under reporting – treating them as ‘victims ‘ instead of doing what is right – meanwhile their victim numbers rise along with their political control. Simple .

            I don’t know this as a provable fact – but by deduction based on their behaviour …

            I’m sure there is some part of Christchurch NZ twinned with Rotherham – and they’ll really be looking the other way …


          • JohnC says:

            What that shameless BBC fail to mention about the imam from Finsbury park who was ‘praised for his response to an attack outside a mosque in London’ is that he stood guard over the nutter who did it to stop the rest of the stone-age barbarians from murdering the guy on the spot. Not one angry man : all of them. They are the real face of Islam. This man was just clever enough to realise the repercussions if they beat him to death and 20 of them went to court for murder.
            Same as the ‘hero’ who carried the white protester away from the BLM thugs.
            The hypocrisy disgusts me.


    • StewGreen says:

      How many Muslim terrorists killers in New Zealand would one expect compared to general nutter killers from the background non-Muslim population ?

      Bottomline there are probably 4 million of them vs 50,000 Muslims
      a ration of 80 to 1

      So of course the vast majority of measures should be devoted to non-Muslims.
      All other things being equal which they aren’t.


  18. Guest Who says:

    If Marianna does not do a split screen share on this, for various reasons, there is no justice.


  19. AsISeeIt says:

    The claim to be first UK patient to receive a covid jab is a purely notional prize – afterall, there have already been extensive trials of the vaccine on human guinea pigs, right?

    However, our press are exicted because, I guess, it is emblematic of something or other?

    The BBC’s on-line news celebrates Margaret Keenan being given the vaccine by May Parsons, a nurse at University Hospital in Coventry. The BBC’s 90-year-old old dear we are told was given the injection at 06:31 GMT – pretty precise. And good luck to her.

    Confusingly, The Times, The Telegraph, the ‘i’ and the freebie Metro would have us celebrate: ‘Ranjan and Hari Shukla’ as pioneering prioritised covid jab pin cushions.

    Britain’s future is ethnic.

    Read carefully and we find this elderly couple may not, in fact, be the very first among equals today offering up their arms to the needle but are: ‘among the first patients to receive the jab today’ – I guess they were the only ones who forgot to tick the box marked “no publicity”?

    So what’s so special about these people? The Telegraph explains of Dr Hari Shukla: ‘The 87-year-old, a former director of the Tyne and Wear Racial Equality Council…’

    So, seems it’s not me that’s making some racial point here.

    ‘We’re delighted to do duty today say history makers’ (Metro)

    I picked up a Metro the other day. I was intrigued by the source of the advertising which is the life blood of this giveaway paper. Afterall, he who pays the piper calls the tune. Most quarterpage ads were from various supermarkets then in the sports pages the betting companies predominated. Two full colour full page advertisements were taken by HM Government. NHS-themed, these adverts extolled us to either do something or refrain from doing something about this supposed pandemic. One would hope the civil servants bargained for some favourable mate’s rates for these ads – but one doubts it. I reckon tax payers stumped up the full whack.

    Our press do love to put an ethnic face on the frontpage – especially if it fronts some campaign or other. An absolute classic of the genre appears in the Guardian today: ‘Toxic air inquest. Mother tells court of Ella’s final hours’ – were you wondering how on earth the government might justify robbing you of your petrol motorcar? Meet Ella, she’s black, cute, and she may not be alive and prone to growing up and making bonkers outbursts like our Greta – but all the better for that.

    In other news… as the Daily Mail points out: ‘1,629 days after Brexit vote, with talks still STILL deadlocked, Boris set for Brussels showdown in… Last call for a deal’

    What lesson do we draw from this?

    I’m convinced politicians of all stripes will be telling themselves never again will we ever offer the public an option we don’t approve – just in case they vote for it.

    Bob Dylan makes the frontpage of the Financial Times. Seems the former archetypal 60s counter culture tamborine man has sold out big time, to the man.

    The Telegraph also features: ‘Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan sells 60 years’ worth of songs’

    How much bread are we talking here? ‘Bob Dylan’s £225m Christmas bonus’ – according to the ‘i’

    There’s no more heroes anymore – as British punk rockers the Stranglers warned us back in ’77.

    So where are the counter cultural voices these days? Who are the heroes not yet co-opted into governmental Green Tax or multicultural compliance campaigns?

    The prize for today’s one, rather quiet, exceedingly polite complaint goes to Julia Donaldson in the Telegraph: ‘Masks are very unfair to the hard of hearing like me’

    A Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall

    So do please remember to take your brolley, luv. I said yer brolley!


    • Guest Who says:

      Well, end of the Piers show was excited more by the diversity of the jabber in his woke willy waving tweet du jour.

      Seems she was a she and an A in the BAME ranking, which surely will get everyone from Grayson to Lenny & June all upset. Again.


      • StewGreen says:

        He tweeted
        BREAKING: Margaret Keenan, 90, becomes first person in the world to receive the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine,
        from Filipino nurse May Parsons who has worked in the NHS for 24yrs.
        How wonderful that this historic global moment happened in the UK, at University Hospital, Coventry.

        She’s not the first person, cos many people have had it in the trials
        It’s Filipina nurse , if she is a woman, Filipino is male


  20. StewGreen says:

    Herefordhire Poll – Was farmer John Price right to take action and dredge the River Lugg?
    51% to 49% from 9,000 That’s in the Farmer’s Weekly

    Basically it’s the villagers vs the GuardianMob
    The parish council said it had a dialogue with the Environment Agency
    “A site meeting with the Environment Agency in September 2020 identified issues near the bridge and the Environment Agency subsequently wrote that ‘the left-hand bank directly upstream of the bridge could do with some reprofiling due to bank slumping… to ease conveyance as it is currently partially obstructing the third arch of the bridge and will look to the landowner to carry out these works’.
    “Another issue highlighted by the Environment Agency was ‘a build-up of silt and growth, mostly Himalayan balsam, on both the upstream and downstream sides’.
    “The parish council supports work to improve the River Lugg that is undertaken at the direction and instigation of the Environment Agency and is in line with the appropriate guidelines, regulations and processes that may be applicable,” it added.

    Potato and cattle farmer John Price said homes in Kingsland, near Leominster, were damaged in last year’s floods and he decided to act because the Environment Agency had not carried out dredging work on the blocked river for years.

    Mr Price, 66, said he has the support of the parish council and local residents whose homes were devastated by Storm Dennis last February.

    The Guardianmob argued that the river was the prettiest river in the whole world.


    • Guest Who says:

      This is in my ‘hood.

      BBC local radio went mental immediately, closely followed by every local rag infested with BBC local democracy reporters.

      The outrage was visceral.

      EA. Fuzz. Lots of fuzz. Went national.

      Then… not as clear cut a cut as first cut and pasted from a shrieking email from a Green councillor’s holistic armpit braider living in the village.

      Now they are running ‘what do you think?’ Headlines and rigged poll questions pitting earthy country types against wise urban warriors.

      Per usual.


      One day the media will grasp, not in a good way, how they do not get to tell folk how they are represented any more.


  21. Doublethinker says:

    Breitbart reports that the State of Texas has taken legal action against the States of Georgia, Pennsylvannia, Michigan and Wisconsin over their running of the election. As it is a legal dispute between states this goes directly to the Supreme Court. What happens next will determine the fate of democracy across the entire Western world.


  22. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC fixation with kneeling footballers continues – they have even added something about players wearing special laces to support queers and dike and various other perversions – sorry ‘sexual identities ‘.

    Listening to a 5 live football ‘commentary ‘ is no longer that – it is part ‘social justice ‘ preaching by the commentator ( fearful for his job as a white grown up male ) and some third rate pundit who chats about – whatever – very often the half time provisions .
    Meanwhile a football match might being going – oh look there’s been a goal ….

    Just to add to the mix – the chairman of a club called ‘Colchester united ‘ is threatening to banish those booing as the idiots on the field kneel down . So all those months of clubs pleading for money and getting the paying plebs back in meant nothing ….you kind of home a club like that would be bought it it’s knees and go bust …..

    Meanwhile mug shots of fans booing will be circulated so that plod can visit them to ‘check their thinking ‘…..their season ticket cancelled and their employer informed that they have a ‘dissenter racist’ on their books …. a new macarthyism


    • Doublethinker says:

      Yes it’s dire, predictable but dire. The way forward of course is for fans to boycott the matches until football comes to its senses. But they won’t , at least not in large enough numbers to hurt the club’s finances shaky as they are. Like so many assaults on our culture this will be absorbed and people will shrug and tell themselves its only a little thing that doesn’t really do any harm.
      People in the UK remind me of the metaphorical frog in pan of initially cold water on a stove only realising far too late that it needs to get out as the temperature rises. Folks will eventually wake up and realise that they live in a non white country with values very different to those which they grew up with and with a secret police who will suppress any form of protest. But they will have only themselves to blame , they will have let it happen to themselves over a period of several decades.


  23. StewGreen says:

    So Kay Burley wasn’t on air
    and hasn’t tweeted for 12 hours

    * Late last night Kay Burley was pulled off air
    * She was already in Coventry where she was due to report on the vaccine roll-out
    * Last minute yanking follows “taking a p*ss” apology
    * Sky bosses say they are investigating 4 partying presenters Guido story #2

    As Sargon says “karma, You get what you bloody well deserve”


  24. StewGreen says:

    next Millwall match drops BLM style
    players will not take a knee before Tuesday’s Championship fixture against QPR.
    Both sides will stand arm-in-arm in a “show of solidarity for football’s fight against discrimination”.

    Very long BBC article


    • The Sage says:

      A step in the right direction. We need all right-thinking football fans to make their voices heard (as those at The Den did so admirably on Saturday) so that this fawning and kneeling practice comes to a speedy end and before more anti-white racial hatred is stirred up by BLM.


    • The Sage says:

      A step in the right direction. We need all right-thinking football fans to make their voices heard (as those at The Den did so admirably on Saturday) so that this fawning and kneeling practice comes to a speedy end and before more anti-white racial hatred is stirred up by BLM.


  25. digg says:

    BBC R4 Womans Hour…

    1. Women can change into men and vice versa
    2. It’s OK to kill some unborn babies
    3. Men are trying to make Women’s football difficult.
    4. Black women need to take over the USA say BLM
    5. XR founder thinks we need to go back to the stone age
    6. Men can wear makeup…

    drip, drip, drip…


    • digg says:

      Add to the above a young man says that young people now don’t believe in the concept of patriotism and respect for this Nations history and the dead of such irritating things as WW1 and WW2. It just gets in the way of progress and diversity.

      He claims organisations like BLM will kill off these outdated attitudes.

      Made me wonder what would happen if for instance Russia decided to surge across Europe and he found himself with a gun in a trench, like it or not… Like those hundreds of thousands of men around his age in 1940.

      Once more I find myself in the position of apologising to to the memory all those brave men and women many of whom had no choice unlike this specimen..

      I realise that if this concept was put to him it would be rejected with a sneer of blasé contempt.


  26. StewGreen says:

    Are we sure that this aged pneumonia patient wouldn’t have survived, if the NHS wasn’t in Covid restrictions ?


  27. Dover Sentry says:

    Will the BBC, Sky and the rest of the MSM be camped outside Kay Burley’s home 24/7 demanding an apology?

    Just as they were with Cummings?

    Our BBC haven’t mentioned Burley’s behaviour. Of course not. She and Sky are anti-Brexit and part of the BBC clan.



  28. StewGreen says:

    Media people covering for Kay Burley
    Likely cos they are all at it
    Living in the same greenhouse they are not throwing stones.
    Birds of a feather.

    11:25am Mike Graham “A lot of people are asking why we are not covering the Kay Burley story
    well she is just a small media person, not someone important”

    Doh Mike, she’s been taken off air

    TalkRadio just ran “A festive dig at Dominic Cummings”
    Christmas cracker joke winner

    “What is Dominic Cummings’ favourite Christmas song? – Driving Home for Christmas.”
    ..it’s not funny at all


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Dominic Cummings did not break lockdown. The Durham police confirmed that. Kay Burley did break lockdown. So what happens to her? She is a hypocrite and a criminal. Want to keep her, Sky News?


      • Scroblene says:

        What on earth has ‘an apology’ got to do with it?

        The damage has been done, she’s possibly spread the Covid around already, putting older folk like me at risk, so Sky should do the right thing and get rid of her; she’s a menace.

        Of course, they won’t and yet another poor sleb-style autocue-reader gets away with it!

        Sad old bunch of lefties aren’t they! Glad they get rugger-all money from me.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I’m sure Kay burley prefers ‘simply red ‘…..


  29. StewGreen says:

    O/T Pensioner neighbours mobile phones have got switched off.
    They keep 3 PAYG mobiles for when they go out, and never use them otherwise.
    Cos they haven’t been out properly since lockdown the 6 month date has passed
    and EE/Vodafone say their numbers have gone
    and they have to get new sims and register them at the shop.

    Now Vodafone say that from Jan 1st the minimum charge will be £1 each day you make a call,
    but all calls in that day will be included in that £1
    So for them calling to say
    “I’m back at the car”
    will cost them £1 each time they go to the big shops etc.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      These companies don’t want people who use their mobiles to make a short call now and then, like me. No, they want people to be jammed to the things all day, sucking up Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. That will never be me.


      • Scroblene says:

        Same here, Rob, and now Paypal want all sorts of numbers to prove it’s me!

        So I try to change the number, but can’t as we’re in a crap area for phone reception and I sit there waiting for a text which never comes!

        I’d rather watch the BBC…!

        …on second thoughts…


  30. G says:

    I see that Boris will be scuttling off to Brussels shortly for a meeting with George Soros…………..


  31. andyjsnape says:

    Brexit: What would no deal mean? (according to the eu sponsored bBC)


    AND DONT FORGET “Less choice of food is a danger” 🙂

    Are people still falling for this rubbish!


  32. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Sky rolling banner at the bottom of the screen saying agreement has been reached on all eu issues in the withdrawal agreement.

    I fear Boros has given in on everything.

    He will try to spin it as a good deal but in reality will have got nothing (as usual) from the eu.

    We have (or had) all the cards. We on here all know this (trade imbalance in their favour, our fish, our huge payments and so much more)

    If he has capitulated, taken the knee for the eu, I hope there’s mass protests, seriously extreme ones.
    They’ve spent all the time since the Brexit vote trying to cheat us out of our decision.

    If they somehow get another vote I expect they will use the dominion machines to make sure it goes the way they want it to.


  33. theisland says:

    “An agreement in principle has been found in the following areas, amongst others: Border Control Posts/Entry Points specifically for checks on animals, plants and derived products, export declarations, the supply of medicines, the supply of chilled meats, and other food products to supermarkets, and a clarification on the application of State aid under the terms of the Protocol.”

    “In view of these mutually agreed solutions, the UK will withdraw clauses 44, 45 and 47 of the UK Internal Market Bill, and not introduce any similar provisions in the Taxation Bill.”

    This does not bode well.


  34. StewGreen says:

    8pm R4 doco ” 8th December 1995, London headmaster Philip Lawrence was stabbed to death at the gates of his school as he tried to protect a pupil”


  35. dafydd says:

    Kay ”smug” Burley in trouble, might treat my self to a beer tonight to celebrate..

    Stupid woman needs to practice what she preaches..


  36. dafydd says:

    Kay ”smug” Burley in trouble, might treat my self to a beer tonight to celebrate..

    Stupid woman needs to practice what she preaches..


    • taffman says:

      Hi dafydd
      Where do you get your ale from? Snakeford has shut all our pubs down.


      • dafydd says:


        Im lucky mate. I work in England but live in Wales. Will smuggle some across the border later..Just hope Adolph Drakeford doesn’t find out….


        • Fedup2 says:

          I’m laying a lager pipeline from England to wales . It should be ready by Christmas 2023…

          … dipping into the Washington Post … which leads on a generous report about the UK vaccine – it mentions in passing that the FDA approved the Pfizer jab today …..


  37. StewGreen says:

    Fair Fuel UK have a transport survey
    It’s intended to balance the PR road surveys from pro-cycling groups
    so the questions are heavily loaded


  38. StewGreen says:

    Millwall : the media has ignored ,is that the player who was standing up with his fist in the air ,is Colin Kazim Richards, probably the only person in the stadium that day to actually be convicted of a hate crime

    2014 : Colin Kazim-Richards guilty of homophobic gesture at Brighton fans
    • Former Blackburn striker fined £750 plus costs over offence
    • Incident occured during Championship match last year
    (Guardian’s typo)


  39. digg says:

    BBC Bitesize for kiddies running a series on fake news and how to spot it.


    A few historical feeble illustrations, Ancient Rome etc. etc.

    :This happened a lot during the 2016 US presidential election, where fake news about the candidates spread and could have influenced the public on how they voted.

    As fake news became more widespread, the term itself began to change. Politicians began to use the phrase to attack news organisations they disagreed with, accusing them of being the ones who spread fake news. By calling real news ‘fake news’, it allowed real ‘fake news’ to get more attention as people didn’t know who to trust – very confusing!”

    But which modern day character could they possibly use to illustrate this?

    ermmm…… now let me think, oh yes I know…


    Massive pic!

    Thereby illustrating exactly what fake news is in my opinion.


    • theisland says:

      Also on bBC Bitesize that famous ‘TikTok star’ Ehiz Ufuah [?] finds out how fake news can affect our mental health and at 2:13 of the video tells the kids “always confirm information with a trusted news source, you know … like the BBC.”


  40. taffman says:

    Has BoJo bottled yet?
    I have not caught up with Al Beeb’s propaganda yet.


    • JohnC says:

      Yes he has.
      No he hasn’t.
      Depends where you read it.
      The media in this country is now worthless if you want any truth.


  41. Guest Who says:

    All the peroxide in Emily’s handbag won’t save Jenny.

    Sangita is golden for evs.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I expect they will be replaced by ragamuffins using Multicultural London English.


  42. StewGreen says:

    Germany heading towards 20K Covid deaths
    ..with more already booked into the system
    their second wave being about double their first
    The positives graph not dropping either.

    Brazil is at 177K deaths
    In death rates Belgium is 60% worse than UK,
    UK is further down the chart than Italy and Spain
    ninth in the world


  43. Guest Who says:

    OT, but have Rog and Matt and Justin seen this yet?


    It has ‘may’ AND ‘study suggests’!

    This is bombshell territory.


  44. Square-Eyed says:

    It’s Only Figures

    The Government website reports 616 Covid deaths yesterday, while the cumulative total rose from 61,434 to 62,033, an increase of 599. Make of that what you will.


  45. pugnazious says:

    The BBC…just a little out of touch with the real world….it hasn’t chnaged at all since the time its ‘student’ radicals wanted to topple everything as Anthony Jay told us….

    ‘We were not just anti-Macmillan; we were anti-industry, anti-capitalism, anti-advertising, anti-selling, anti-profit, anti-patriotism, anti-monarchy, anti-Empire, anti-police, anti-armed forces, anti-bomb, anti-authority. Almost anything that made the world a freer, safer and more prosperous place, you name it, we were anti it…It was (and is) essentially, though not exclusively, a graduate phenomenon. From time to time it finds an issue that strikes a chord with the broad mass of the nation, but in most respects it is wildly unrepresentative of national opinion.”’

    That is the BBC now…..as you can see from a selection of programmes from R4 today…..

    Switched R4 on and caught a programme about Soul singer Bill Withers….interesting, interesting and them wham!….suddenly it’s all about Black LIves Matter. Almost as if the BBC picks a subject that it knows will give them a launch pad to get onto their favourite subjects.

    Next case in point…the very next programme in fact….about animals, sex and gender….and yet…yet..you knew something was coming…and indeed Wham! We’re onto trangender in humans and a trans activist is wheeled in to promote the cause….not that he was needed…the presenter was fully on board telling us it was very harmful to think of ‘male’ and female’ as being the norm. Extremely, totally one-sided….not a hint of any counter-argument or criticism. Pure, outright propaganda.

    And, well, not much of a cover up with the next one….Woman’s Hour brought us ‘Gail Bradbrook: co-founder of Extinction Rebellion’….didn’t hear it but I imagine it was all very lovely and cosy and agreeable…..maybe their methods might be a bit controversial but their aims are admirable…much as the BBC thinks the islamist Tahir Alam is a hero, he maybe an islamist trying to islamise British schools but he does it with the best intentions….lol.

    What else did the BBC treat us to….oh, look….let’s pretend to look back at British history…but really it’s a vehicle to trash it and rewrite it…note the presenter is black….the BBC handing our history to the ‘enemy’ who hate our history…

    ‘My Albion…..In this final episode, Zakia Sewell considers enduring symbols of Albion – from Stonehenge to the union flag – asking whether a refreshed perspective on our nation’s past might pave the way for a more hopeful future.’

    Yeah….‘A refreshed perspective…’ ….a very sinister and Orwellian term…seemingly innocuous and yet packed with deeper and darker meaning.

    And finally….

    ‘Tim Harford reads from his new book revealing how we can evaluate the statistical claims that surround us with confidence, curiosity and a healthy level of scepticism.’

    Harford is of course the man who brings us the BBC’s ‘More or Less’….supposedly an impartial and measured look at the world but of course nothing like.

    I haven’t heard his latest take on statistics but I imagine all criticisms are levelled in the usual directions and we must trust the BBC to bring us the facts.

    Just one day, not even the whole day, on R4. I can believe a good 70% of this country don’t subscribe to any of these views and yet they all pay for them.


    LOL…..just scrolled down the whole of Woman’s Hour blurb to find this…..destroy the nuclear family….how very BLM/XR and Marxist…..BBC pushing hard to undermine every value and belief that unites this country and makes it work….

    ‘It’s time to end the idea that being in a couple is the superior way to live, according to a new book, ‘The Tenacity of the Couple-Norm’. The couple-norm is the ubiquitous idea that being in a couple is the normal, natural and better way of living. It’s such a powerful norm that being in a couple is almost synonymous with being a successful adult. The authors – academics from 4 different countries – argue that, amidst enormous transformations in our ideas about family life and relationships in past decades, this norm has remained largely unchallenged and unchanged, making life difficult for anyone who departs from it. The lead author, Professor Sasha Roseneil, joins Jane.’


  46. StewGreen says:

    ITV locals news Amrit Gahir shouted #WhiteManBad
    “they use filters on social media which can make their face look like black or brown people
    ..Here I am in Doncaster with a local BLM activist”
    “Yes we are getting these filters banned”

    They didn’t get over how this is a big problem.

    Like if there was A Yorkshire Filter which gave you a flat cap and a whippet would there be outrage ?


  47. Guest Who says:

    Or maybe just ask Botney for a donation from the pension pot?

    Anyway, seems Newsnight has at last got an even younger Marianna clone to replace Paul Mason.


  48. digg says:

    Oxford Covid vaccine ‘safe and effective’ study shows


    But then say that so far they have only tested it on younger, fit people

    Why not on older people who are actually ill with the disease then?

    Bit like testing a cars brakes at 5 mph.

    Why do I get the uneasy feeling that we are about to pay through the nose for liquid paracetamol?


  49. StewGreen says:

    Local BBC news emotional blackmail item saying you must have a vaccine.
    They used the family of a 47yo Filipena who just died in Grimsby.
    Saying ..”if only she’d only had the vaccine”

    She was quite overweight
    and they didn’t mention how she’d got it.


  50. Guest Who says:

    Is that a… plastic lid?

    None of those at Kay and Beff’s bash.

    They know the team has their back on the real scandals.