Start the Week Thread 23 November 2020

Isn’t it Great? Many on this site despair at not being able to change the Far Left Biased BBC sooner rather than later . But the behaviour of the BBC is now exposing the madness . Last month it was censoring “land of Hope and Glory “ at the Proms . Now it has censored a Christmas pop tune . Even the least attentive taxpayer reading this stuff in the papers must be starting to realise the BBC is no longer fit for purpose.

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315 Responses to Start the Week Thread 23 November 2020

  1. Deborah says:

    First.

    First time for ages watched Countryfile. Anita was ‘helping’ a hedge being laid. I can assure everyone that the ground is wet at the moment which should mean digging down half a spade depth should be possible but poor Anita is so weak she couldn’t do it. Good job she is paid equality as a presenter and isn’t in a job that requires strength.

    But there was a new presenter tasting gin. Something must be wrong as he was a white male over twenty. I don’t know his sexual orientation but maybe Mr Davie is having an effect.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Oi, I missed a Triple Crown!

      Oh well as long as I don’t have to watch ‘The Crown’ on Netflix. Jonny ‘Staccato’ Dymond did a piece about it on The World This Weekend (R4 1p.m.) and the Beeb invited on someone who loved it and Penny Junor who hated it. The latest series, that is.

      I think the BBC really wanted to rubbish a programme by a TV rival that is stealing viewers and Licence Fee-payers from the BBC (you do not need a TV Licence if you only view subscription TV) but they also wanted a chance sneak in a hit at the Royal Family oldies and their Royal Household. I quite enjoyed seeing the BBC so conflicted.

      Well done, Debs, for beating me to it.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2
        I watched the first of the new series last night – the production cost would be a fantasy to the BBC now that so much of their blackmail income goes on diversity compliance . There was a noticeable absence of vibrancy from that episode …… ..

        … it reminded me – did the Queen really shake the hand of Martin McGuinness ? Maybe that’s how they delivered the poison to kill the monster off …..

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Were you annoyed by it, Fed? I did think of you, while listening to ‘Staccato’ as this web-sites very own Republican. Or did you think it was accurate in its portrayal?

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Up2 – i remember the time – a school friend of mine lost a brother at Warrenpoint . My hatred for the IRA cannot be measured . I find it hard to imagine the world in which the Royals live – they dont mean anything to me . They were clever to keep their status after The Great War …. its very watchable – unlike the BBC ….

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        • NCBBC says:

          Dr. Roger Hodkinson on how governments responded to COVID
          
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LbD1rWkF-Q

          This is the fraud that made it all possible. And is leading the West to downfall,via Climate Change and Open Borders.
          
          I do believe that CV-19 flu was weaponised to bring down Pres Trump. Thus enable Climate Change fraud to continue, as it had been blocked by Pres Trump. Dr. Roger Hodkinson is right to ask why this, and why not in the past.

          Without the USA , Climate Change Agenda , or Agenda 21, has no hope.

          If this madness isn’t stopped asap, the West is toast. Climate Change bankruptcy and Open Borders will spell the end. And bias of the BBC wont matter.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Catchup links to latest post on the weekend thread
      Page 3 started 8am Sunday
      Page 2

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    • StewGreen says:

      Catchup links to latest post on the weekend thread
      Page 3 started 8am Sunday
      Page 2

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    • Doublethinker says:

      I note on Breitbart that Guiliani and other members of the President’s legal team have ‘distanced’ themselves from Sydney Powell, saying that her claims go beyond those that they can so far prove. This doesn’t necessarily mean that she is in fantasy land . For instance she could be setting the scene for the law suit or be used to gain more public support or perhaps she is prepared to throw legal caution to the wind and go beyond what can definitely be proved in court.
      But even if only a fraction of what Powell has claimed in recent days is true, then Biden certainly didn’t win the election, Trump did. But can the President get the US government and legal system to agree this and to strip Biden of the election? I’m not so sure that the court case will even be heard, too many powerful people risk being exposed and imprisoned if the truth comes out. Importantly Powell claimed that politicians on both sides were corrupt. Of course everyone knows that most politicians are as bent as hairpins but the Republicans won’t like the risk of being exposed to save Trump and democracy, particularly if they are being offered loads of money to stop the law suite. Perhaps that is why the Presiden’s team is distancing her.
      Does anyone know how the mood of the ordinary voter is in the US over this vote rigging? Firstly do they even know about it? Do they regard it the major issue of the day? Do they believe that massive election fraud took place? Are they as angry as they should be if it is true? Will they accept Biden as President?
      The obvious way forward for the fraudsters, I include the MSM in that category, is to brazen it out , claim it’s a fantasy and for the Democrat dominated legal and government systems to refuse to have anything to do with it and inaugurate Biden. Only the ordinary American people can stop that from happening and the consequent trashing of democracy once and for all.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Personally, I have no doubt there was massive fraud. I also think the obstacles in the way of being able to prove this will be too great.

        I too would love to know what the average American voter thinks, because if half of them view elections as rigged it could have serious consequences down the line. After all, why bother voting if the deck is stacked against you? Much how I feel about this country, now I come to think of it, when I view the government I got as opposed to the one I thought I was voting for.

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        • StewGreen says:

          It’s a long shot for Powell to pull it off
          .. but it’s a million dollar prize if she does.

          I still wouldn’t put money against Trump
          He’s always being playing a different level of game to the normal one.

          That’s why the media always to report on a cartoon character image they created
          rather than the much more complex reality.

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          • Roland Deschain says:

            That’s the one thought that has been keeping me from despair these last few weeks. And here’s an interesting poll I found 75% of Republicans and, remarkably, 30% of Democrats believe the election was stolen if the headline (or poll) is to be believed.

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      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        R4’s Today had a section on the legal appeals on behalf of Pres. Trump, from 08:36 to 08:42, with some Republican dismissing the whole thing. There was no attempt to list or explain what Trump’s team are alleging, even if their claims are exaggerated or not enough to overturn the over-all result; just flat rejection.

        Then, in the short news at 09:00 before Start The Week, the attorney Sidney Powell got a name check, but only because some Republicans were said to have distanced themselves from her and her allegations. The fact that the BBC have finally named her (and framed her as bad) suggests to me that they are frightened about what is coming out and have moved to discredit (rather than ignore) her.

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        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          This is why I have now given up on Today. Its relentless leftist bias is just no way to start the day. Now I just assume that it is broadcasting its leftist bullshit, but I am much happier listening to the sound of silence.

          It has become so easy to ditch the BBC, and you feel so much better for it!

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Rob – welcome to the club – you’ll feel better and you won’t miss it ….

            …. on other matters …. in Parliament the SNP leader welcomed the development of an English covid vaccine but has assured every one that Scots won’t take an English jab … ( this may not be strictly true ) …..he does think we should all believe scientists now that they’ve come up with a vaccine which may or may not work …..

            … there was also pleas for teachers and ‘front line workers ‘ get the jab before anyone else – let’s hope it doesn’t kill them all eh?

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            • Banania says:

              “Scots won’t take an English jab…” Would they feel defiled, like the soldiers in the Indian mutiny?

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              • Van Helsing says:

                Banania,

                Blackford speaks with forked tongue.

                Any Scot I know will happily take an ‘English’ vaccine in the same way that English people were glad to take penicillin.

                We all live on the same small group of islands and our histories are so strongly intertwined that we’re family rather than neighbours.

                Let’s all behave accordingly, shall we?

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                • Fedup2 says:

                  If Scotland had gone independent they’d be paying extra for it and going into the queue …..

                  I get Fedup hearing too much from the SNP in comparison to their constituency size compared to 50 ish million in England .

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              • taffman says:

                Banania
                “Would they feel defiled, like the soldiers in the Indian mutiny?”
                On a positive note, not all the Indian soldiers mutinied, some regiments remained very loyal.
                But then, we did not have Al Beeb.

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  2. Northern Voter says:

    Mrs Voter was watching MOTD this arvo, and it struck me that something was amiss, in the studio linocare, and two other white chappies gobbling off. The commentators again were two white chappies. The match officials were three white chappies, I thought eh oop wheres the diversity then. It became apparent when the two teams Fulham and Everton walked on the pitch, Everton fielded seven players of colour in their starting eleven, whilst Fulham was six players of colour in their eleven.

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    • Jeff says:

      Thankfully I missed the footie this afternoon…we (Fulham) lost again. I was otherwise engaged, unloading leaves onto my compost heap.
      However, it’s your phrase that’s intrigued me…”gobbling off”…um…
      Just what the Hell is going on at Fulham these days?

      Crikey, I know they call us Fulham supporters The Cottagers, but…

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Jeff
        I think Fulham will need a new manager in the morning …

        ….i thought the ‘cottaging ‘ thing had something to do with the park next to the ground …

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  3. popeye says:

    Let me put forward a hypothesis for the situation that the whole world finds itself at the moment.

    There are some incredibly wealthy people out there, with more money than they could possibly spend in their lifetime. So, they have wealth, and as always, flowing from that, they have power. Some, however (I would count Gates and Soros here) crave a legacy; their name to be revered for all eternity. Philanthropy is all very fine but is relatively short-term in historical terms. But if they could change the whole world…

    Gates, for example, has postulated that a global population of five billion is the ideal. There would be easily enough food and sustainable energy to provide for this figure, and if sovereign states could be abolished, to have just the one demos, there would be no war.

    How, then, to achieve this? To start with, there is a (conspiracy?) theory that a putative Gates vaccine for some indeterminate disease could contain a contraceptive for places like Africa and Southern Asia to lower the population pressure in these places. A lower population would still, however, leave us with a potential cause of violence, warfare between competing nations. The obvious solution is to get rid of nation states. By having just mankind (shorthand for humankind of course) then global wealth could be shared out (except the really rich of course, citizens of the world, they will still have unimaginable wealth and be insulated on from the hoi polloi. Zil lanes anyone?)

    Using this hypothesis as a prism through which to examine where we are today, things begin to make sense. Immigration? Soon we will all be one people, and through miscegenation the one colour too. TV adverts are leading the way – there are no coincidences in this scenario.

    Climate change? The IPCC has stated that their aim is the redistribution of wealth from wealthy countries to the poor. I think they are straining their sinews to actually prove firstly that the climate is changing significantly quickly (it has throughout geological time of course) or that Man is playing a major part in it.

    But we can use the argument to change our way of life, for example by insisting that IC-engined cars are banned from manufacture in 9 years, even though the infrastructure and power requirements could not possibly be met in that time-frame. They wave the carrot, 60,000 Green jobs will be created, ignoring the fact that millions will be lost. Of course, if we can’t possibly meet the target then one solution is to reduce the number of private vehicles – all shall have busses (except the wealthy of course) and bike lanes (see cities today with Covid as the excuse)

    There are more fanciful theories of course. I don’t believe that Coronavirus was deliberately released on the world to reduce the population – cock-up, not conspiracy – but the opportunity was eagerly seized. It has been widely noticed there is a common saying, “Build Back Better”, used by Boris, Macron, Trudeau, Biden, and other world leaders and intending to be a blueprint for our “Brave New World”. It is no coincidence that this comes from the World Economic Forum (Gates and Soros again) dedicated to the New World Order, Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030, and of course Common Purpose. Please Google these if you do not know that they are Trojan Horses to our Brave New World.

    This is the Great Reset using the pandemic as the vehicle for global change. Now, if I were to be a sceptic – which I am – I would say that this explains why we are stringing the pandemic out; that it’s not as bad as many other flu epidemics; that we are deliberately weakening our economies. But if we were to think that this could actually be helping the “Great Reset” then maybe that is a good reason for some to keep this going.

    Of course, using my theory, these people are not evil, they are doing this out of the best possible motives – eventual world peace (and their own deification of course). However, like communism (perfect in theory – “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs” except the rulers of course) it will never happen. Even if we were to get rid of inter-nation strife there would still be inter-tribal, inter-religion, inter-party fighting. There will always be people who want more (hence crime and violence) and people who would rather do nothing (benefit scroungers).

    Mankind will eventually find peace by evolution. Interference by the super-oligarchs will only bring grief.

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    • Loobyloo says:

      Sorry Popeye, you’re wrong cos the BBC have reality checked it

      The coronavirus pandemic ‘great reset’ theory and a false vaccine claim debunked https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55017002

      In a similar fashion to how they’ve debunked President Trumps claims of election fraud.

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    • G says:

      Popeye,
      “……a (conspiracy?) theory that a putative Gates vaccine for some indeterminate disease could contain a contraceptive for places like Africa and Southern Asia to lower the population pressure in these places.”

      Triggered my memory: didn’t a certain Indiri Ghandi try that one on back in the 50’s? I recall some sort of policy whereby, women having a routine examination, were sterilised without their knowledge. Strangely enough, I can find reference to that policy :

      (Perhaps someone has been in there and cleaned it up for posterity)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indira_Gandhi#Operation_Blue_Star

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      • Guest Who says:

        By sheer coincidence, the BBC is offering to give me a free DAB radio. Just one small requirement.

        Silly billies forget I am not interested in listening to the BBC.

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      • popeye says:

        Indeed, I remember that as well.

        Someone thought it unlikely that any reasonable person would actually cause millions of deaths deliberately, but of course WW1 generals would move pieces on a map condemning hundreds of thousands of men to death to achieve an objective – the ends justifies the means.

        The BBC misreport and ignore things they disagree with using the same rationale

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      • Eddy Booth says:

        Think Indian men also were offered transistor radios to be sterilised, today’s British men get furlough handouts to accept been neutured..

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    • G says:

      Not forgetting the pairs’ handmaiden: The UN

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    • Banania says:

      That really does fit the facts, and sounds very plausible. A most interesting comment. I have been wondering all along about a possible motive for all this high-handed bossiness.

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  4. JimS says:

    Catching up with Radio 4’s Feedback the comedy is in full flow:

    “Should the BBC come of the fence regarding climate change?”

    Does the BBC have any fences? Well yes, to keep off air any views that it doesn’t agree with.

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  5. Fedup2 says:

    But Popeye – who will suffer the grief ? Answer – ordinary taxpayers . The other weakness of this is foreseeability – that Gates / soros / whoever can foresee events and control them according to their plan . I think that’s a big jump . So many unforeseeable things – good / bad can come out of the Chinese virus and they are taking a big risk …. which we are all part of …..
    A vaccine comes along which works and is delivered to the world by the end of 2021…. then what ? Assuming a second virus doesn’t come along at this time of weakness …..
    If you look at individuals who have tried to shape world events in the recent past they haven’t done too well – I can’t imagine either Stalin or Hitler seeing their work go the way it did – same goes for the aging Soros .

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  6. Up2snuff says:

    I listened to bits of Any Questions repeat on Saturday (R4 1.15 – 2.00 p.m.) switching off occasionally in protest when I found a certain MP’s voice being too grating or their words too hypocritical. I was interested and listening when Chair, Chris Mason, said they had 6,000 questions e-mailed in in response to a public appeal running daily at different times on BBC R4 since the previous week. Only 6 questions were going to be used.

    One in a thousand chance of getting your question chosen by the Producers and put to and answered by the Panel. Not long after that, the next question came up, and – yes – you guessed, it gave some on the panel a chance to attack the Government. I switched off in protest. Thanks to all the household distractions that prevented me, I did not switch back on.

    The BBC’s loss, not mine.

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  7. Nibor says:

    Beeboids ,

    You’ve been trying to get Priti Patel sacked for her behaviour and treatment of senior civil servants ( serpents) .

    Now get those senior civil serpents sacked for their behaviour and treatment of the normal taxpayer public.

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  8. vlad says:

    While the lying BBC continue the lie that all is hunky-dory with Dominion, just a conspiracy theory, bla bla – evidence is piling up of some strange goings on.

    For example that Dominion are busily scrubbing a lot of embarrassing information about themselves and their staff from the internet; that they moved out of their offices in Canada in a hurry; and that those same offices were in a block described as ‘an INCUBATOR for radical left-wing organizations’.
    Oh, and just for good measure, they shared the office floor with George Soros’ Tides Foundation – who also tried to scrub physical evidence of their presence there.

    This is the kind of stuff that real journalists dream of chasing up and exposing.

    So I guess that rules out the lazy biased activists at the BBC then.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      I note on Breitbart that Guiliani and other members of the President’s legal team have ‘distanced’ themselves from Sydney Powell, saying that her claims go beyond those that they can so far prove. This doesn’t necessarily mean that she is in fantasy land . For instance she could be setting the scene for the law suit or be used to gain more public support or perhaps she is prepared to throw legal caution to the wind and go beyond what can definitely be proved in court.
      But even if only a fraction of what Powell has claimed in recent days is true, then Biden certainly didn’t win the election, Trump did. But can the President get the US government and legal system to agree this and to strip Biden of the election? I’m not so sure that the court case will even be heard, too many powerful people risk being exposed and imprisoned if the truth comes out.
      Does anyone know how the mood of the ordinary voter is in the US over this vote rigging? Do they regard it the major issue of the day? Do they believe that massive election fraud took place? Are they as angry as they should be if it is true? Will they accept Biden as President?
      The obvious way forward for the fraudsters, I include the MSM in that category, is to brazen it out , claim it’s a fantasy and for the Democrat dominated legal and government systems to refuse to have anything to do with it and inaugurate Biden. Only the ordinary American people can stop that from happening and the consequent trashing of democracy once and for all.

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    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      “This is the kind of stuff that real journalists dream of chasing up and exposing.

      So I guess that rules out the lazy biased activists at the BBC then.”

      Excellent summary of the problem with the BBC “journalists”!

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  9. Rich says:

    Vlad,

    You might not have seen this.

    An interesting piece linking Dominion, Smartmatic, Obama(Biden), Soros and Lord Mark Malloch-Brown with election-rigging and voter-fraud on a global scale.

    Well worth a read.

    https://fort-russ.com/2020/11/lord-malloch-brown-revealed-the-british-hand-behind-the-coup-shows-its-scales-again/

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  10. taffman says:

    Not on Al Beeb………….
    On top of the huge Covid debt it appears that our so called Tory Government have handed over an extra £1 Bn to the EU!
    If true? you idiot Conservative supporters please remember to vote for The Reform Party next time.
    The present lot have too many ‘noses in the trough’.

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  11. Guest Who says:

    CNN really has its finger on the public pulse.

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  12. Guest Who says:

    Going, on every count, with ‘no’.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Devon NHS deputy manager @nhspaulgreen
    thought he would fight JHB on Twitter
    accusing her first of having dangerous opinions on Covid and then finally saying she would’ve been a Nazi supporter.

    He then apologised
    and deleted his entire Twitter account.

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  14. StewGreen says:

    Belfield : BBC London screwup and aired prank call with lot of swearing 7x N Word

    Belfield has explained call in systems before saying BBC’s is negligent.

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    • taffman says:

      StewGreen
      Why does our Conservative Prime Minister and his so called ‘Tory Government’ allow Al Beeb to continue to survive by compelling the British public by law, to pay for this ‘Sh One T’ ?
      What’s more, is Ofcom a real entity ?
      Are there any Tory supporters on this site that care to defend BoJo ?

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  15. taffman says:

    “Covid: Officer bitten breaking up illegal party”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-55037257
    “Bristol rave: Injuries ’caused by police dog’ investigated”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-55034697

    Was it the same “Dog” ?

    5 hours ago

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  16. taffman says:

    Disaster !
    Headline news ?
    “Bike from Banksy’s Nottingham hula-hooping girl vanishes”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-55028586
    Could it be Norman Tebbit looking for a new job ?

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  17. taffman says:

    “A further 11 people have died with coronavirus in Wales, taking the total to 2,376, according to the latest figures.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51888681
    We may appear to be slow in taffland but we always ask the same old question : Is that “with” , “because of” or “linked to” Covid ? Because there is a subtle difference .
    Anyone?

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  18. taffman says:

    Is it possible that the senior Al Beeb employees are allowing inexperienced Woke, BME & Green AntiFa presenters free reign to annoy Telly Tax payers so that ‘the outfit’ gets closed down?
    ‘The end game’?……
    The senior employees get huge ‘Golden Handshakes’ and pensions to invest into private broadcaster? Jobs for the seniors with their noses in the trough. While juniors end up working at restaurant tables and bars for a living.

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  19. taffman says:

    “Rishi Sunak says Spending Review will not spell austerity”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55037752
    Do you believe him?
    Please record and remember this headline .

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  20. Guest Who says:

    The Moaning Emole. And it is a Spring special.

    ***

    The deep roots of Trump’s ‘voter fraud’ strategy

    President Trump alleged “fraud” even while votes were still being counted – the culmination of a strategy at least months in the making. In the early hours of a frosty November morning in Connecticut, 49-year-old Candy snuggled into her bed after a long night shift. She immediately unlocked her phone – and began scrolling through her social media feed, as she does most nights. But this was different – it was election night. The result was still hanging in the balance. Candy scrolled, catching up on the night’s news while waiting for her favoured candidate to speak out. And just after one in the morning, he did.

    Read full analysis >

    Marianna Spring
    Specialist disinformation reporter
    BBC News

    ****

    That only comes across as a an op-ed. At best.

    And bbc misinformation via propaganda.

    No pic of our blonde boomshell though.

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘National embarassment’

      It may have dropped down the news agenda in the UK somewhat, but Donald Trump is still refusing to concede defeat after the US election. A small but growing number of his allies have urged him to end his protests, the latest of whom is former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. Calling the conduct of the president’s legal team “a national embarrassment”, he told ABC News: “We cannot continue to act as if something happened here that didn’t happen.” On Saturday, the Trump camp suffered a major blow in Pennsylvania, after a judge dismissed a lawsuit seeking to invalidate millions of mail-in votes.

      President-elect Joe Biden, meanwhile, has been pressing on with plans for office and is due to announce his first cabinet appointments on Tuesday.

      ***

      No, not the bbc, but another BME, making TDS again their dominant obsession here.

      #tellitoftenenough can be an effective strategy for propaganda purposes, but hardly assists impartiality claims.

      I decided to follow the link to Marianna’s ‘analysis’.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-55009950?

      Candy and Marianna are both blonde.

      Like BS.

      Who also has a very bbc way of propelling one person into representative ‘fact’.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Meanwhile, on bbc social media…

        Although Joe Biden won the US election, support for Donald Trump increased among black and Latino voters.

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54972389?

        Ashita Nagesh is a new one.

        Doubtless one of the San Jose Nageshes.

        Certainly ladling out a lot of opinion as fact.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Guest – I suppose if the election fix is successful the BBC will continue to go after President Trump together with the Democrats ….. if they can throw more stuff at him it will distract from their own corruption ….

          Yesterday – Sunday was the anniversary of the Killing of JFK by …..
          …..there was another president who got his seat partly through dads’ corruption and voter fraud …..

          ( by the way – my favoured theory is the ‘cock up ‘ one where the secret service muppet in the follow car accidentally shot him as he was responding to a gun shot )….

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          • Foscari says:

            Fedup-You should read “Denial of Justice” by Mark Shaw.
            It’s about the murder of Dorothy Kilgallen the most
            famous journalist and star of TV programme What’s
            my line” in the USA. You have asked me what the
            source is of my facetious comments sometimes. On
            this one I helped in a very small way with a section
            of the book about the time when Kilgallen came to
            London.She had managed to interview Jack Ruby and
            was murdered for what he had told her. Her murder was
            one of the biggest cover up of all times in the USA
            where the “establishment” said that she had committed suicide.

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            • Fedup2 says:

              Foscari – I do ask people for sources of stuff . Often it is when it is difficult to discern whether the words are from the poster or someone else .
              I do like the secret service accident theory – which would explain strange conduct afterward – that on top of any other plot going on at the time . It didn’t get a look in with the Oliver stone overblown film ….but at least it will fill holes in channel 5 scheduling for generations to come …

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              • Rob in Cheshire says:

                Fed:

                Of all the various theories about the death of JFK, the idea that the Secret Service shot him by accident with an AR15 has no merit.

                The assassination was seen at very close quarters by dozens of people, who saw and heard what happened. Some thought shots came from the Texas School Book Depository, some from the Grassy Knoll. No-one who was there saw or heard an AR15 going off in the Secret Service car. I assure you they would have done if it had happened. An AR15 is not quiet, and there were people just a few feet from the president when he was shot.

                There is however an interesting tangent to the story of the AR15.

                For a long time, the Secret Service kept quiet about them having one in the back up car. A deaf man called Ed Hoffman had been watching the motorcade from above the triple underpass and saw the assassination. He rushed down to where the various cars had stopped under the triple underpass, and saw what he called a machine gun in the hands of the Secret Service. Because the Secret Service denied they had had an AR15, he was disbelieved, but clearly he was telling the truth. This is interesting, because the other thing he saw was a man on the Grassy Knoll throw a dismantled rifle down to another man in the railway car park. He put the rifle in the boot of a car and they drove off. Because his story did not fit the official narrative, and because as a deaf man it was hard for him to get his story across, he was not believed. But it turns out he was right about one important thing he saw, so why not the other?

                Foscari: You are right about Dorothy Kilgallen. Her death was indeed mysterious, just as she had gained what she said was crucial information from Jack Ruby himself. She was one of the first people who “knew too much” to die. Jack Ruby followed in 1967, before his appeal could be heard.

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                • Fedup2 says:

                  Rob – I knew if i mentioned JFK it could open something up… I like the secret service accidental shooting theory because it is so human – I’ve personal experience of use of the early version AR15 and could imagine someone having a neg discharge cos the thing is so light ….

                  As for what witnesses think they saw …. if the Secret Service wanted it covered up it would have happened ..

                  There’s enough material for films to be made on it long after we are gone ….

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                  • Rob in Cheshire says:

                    Fed:

                    The SS might have had an NG with the AR15, but they didn’t. They didn’t even deploy the AR15 until all the cars gathered under the triple underpass a few seconds after the assassination, before the race to Parkland Hospital. That is where Ed Hoffman saw the AR15, but was disbelieved when he told people. He also saw the two men with a rifle behind the Grassy Knoll. Clearly, he was telling the truth about the AR15, did he suddenly turn into a liar about the men with the rifle?

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        • Guest Who says:

          Meanwhile the Fail shows how it is done…

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      • Guest Who says:

        So, still running in lockstep with cnn.

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      • JimS says:

        Oh those silly ‘little people’, posting false stories to each other about rigged elections!

        I guess Mariana is too young (I’m only 24 you know!) to remember 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019 when a certain BBC was telling us that Russian posts on social media influenced ‘old’ people to vote for Trump. The same social media that the BBC told us St. Obama had mastered in 2008, thus ensuring that no Republican would ever win again.

        As an aside how does she know that the ‘little people’ that she is interviewing are telling the truth rather than just telling her what she wants to hear?

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  21. andyjsnape says:

    How electric cars are charged and how far they go: your questions answered
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-54989167

    bBC seems keen

    I STILL CANNOT CHARGE AN ELECTRIC CAR ANYWHERE NEAR TO MY HOUSE! Unless I constantly ask a neighbour to move their car

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  22. Darcy3 says:

    I am more concerned about what happens if there is a power cut or the meter needs a shilling while you’re overtaking a 16 year old semi literate Polish lorry driver in a 40 foot artic with no MOT and bald tyres, who is halfway through his morning bottle of shnapps, cooking a fry up on the dashboard with a primus stove and watching porn on a portable DVD whilst texting local escort services.

    An accident waiting to happen in my opinion

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  23. Guest Who says:

    In other news, in the last hour the copy and paste #prasnews media, especially the bbc and Laura and Toenails, have gone men… more mental on the latest from Oxford on vaccines for the masses.

    So far estimates range from 60% to ‘over 90%’.

    I am waiting for 132.65432% or not interested.

    I like precision.

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  24. Red Pill says:

    This is the thing with these vaccines, with the right resources you can compress 10 years worth of research into 10 months, but you can’t compress 6 years worth of human trials into 6 months. There will be zero known about any long term effects of the vaccine beyond the trial period. I’m sure the BBC know of course, they’re brilliant at advising on the future – masks, Brexit, Biden landslide, no immunity etc.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      See how eager the saintly NHS staff to get it first- since the economy has been stopped for that 1.7 million staff …

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      • Red Pill says:

        My better half works in the NHS – nope, that doesn’t mean I’ve got much good to say about them – and she doesn’t think the uptake will be great. What really gets my goat about that lot is how ‘busy’ they always are. Doesn’t matter how much time they all stand around gassing about a night out, they’re still always soooo busy. Hospitals refusing to do non-emergency operations, nobody going into A&E because of being petrified of Covid, no sporting injuries because, well, you can’t play sport etc etc? It doesn’t matter, apparently they’re STILL rushed off their feet. Funny that. Still, like BLM activists and feminists, they’re a protected group – heavenly even. Wasn’t the devil an angel before God worked out he was just a bit of tw*t?

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      That’s where I am with this. Statistics show a Covid survival rate of 99.9% for my age group. Weigh that against unknown long term effects and there’s no way I’m taking it. Others are free to come to their own, different conclusion but they are NOT entitled to make my choice for me.

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      • StewGreen says:

        So if 60s have a 99% survival rate under when they have no pre-existing
        A vaccination will give some protection to those that do acquire some exiting health problem in the next few years.

        For the majority of us
        without a vaccine we know we’ll be safe to visit granny 2 weeks after getting an infection
        .. with a vaccine we know we 90% of us can visit granny anytime without worrying if we have an infection or asymptomatic infection.
        but 10% would be risking infecting granny

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        • G says:

          But which ones, post vaccination, can visit Granny? How will they know?

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        • Red Pill says:

          For me it’s all about analysing risk. Yes, it makes sense for the elderly and the vulnerable to have the vaccination, but for everyone else it’s going to be a very subjective decision. For those people that do have the vaccination (including Granny), they’ll be immune to catching it from the people that don’t. I’ve already had it, so 100% will not be vaccinated – and would not have done even if I hadn’t had it tbh – but completely understand why others may.

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  25. Darcy3 says:

    “Pope Francis hits out at ‘feverish consumerism’ and urges economists to involve the poor in post-coronavirus rebuilding”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8973359/Pope-young-pandemic-build-new-economy-poor.html

    in other news:

    “Catholic Church national wealth estimated to be $30 billion, investigation finds” (2018)

    BTW that is just in Australia

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-12/catholic-church-worth-$30-billion-investigation-finds/9422246

    Also:

    “The Roman Catholic Church is almost certainly the wealthiest organization in the world. In the United States alone, it is estimated that the Catholic Church has an operating budget of $170 billion. By comparison, in fiscal year 2012, Apple and General Motors each had about $150 billion in revenue worldwide. No one outside the Vatican knows for sure how much money the church has, because—unlike every other category of tax-exempt “nonprofit” organizations—religious organizations in the United States are not required to submit basic financial reporting to the IRS”

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    • Banania says:

      Is the Roman Catholic Church, for financial purposes, one worldwide institution? If not, then the statement is meaningless.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Banania – I think it’s national going down to the diocese run by a bishop – some outfits are global . Certainly it the English RC Church got the assets stolen by Henry 8 it would be a lot wealthier …. trouble is with so much money sloshing about someone always gets a taste for it – same with charities …

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  26. AsISeeIt says:

    The ‘i’ is celebrating early this morning: ‘Families can meet up for Christmas. Downing Street agrees proposals with the devolved nations for a short relaxation of restrictions that will allow people to travel across the UK’

    Well, whoop-de-do. So the British Berlin Walls come down – but just for a few days. Or, if you prefer your analogies Far Eastern, families will be permitted to cross the 38th Parallel De-Militarised Zone momentariliy before the iron/bamboo curtain falls oncemore.

    The giveaway Metro likewise attempts to manufacture some festive good news, their headline decorated with the cheap tinsel of a rather obvious pun – let’s call it Christmas cracker level humour: ‘Bubbles with the baubles. Up to four households may be allowed to mix this Christmas’

    Don’t take this as me being a party pooper but if our media really and truthfully believed in the efficacy of this lockdown stuff, then surely they would be campaigning against any relaxations of restrictions. Unless they believe turkey and sprouts work as some form of palliative to the Wuhan Flu.

    Now let’s interupt everything, stand up for a short burst of God Save The Queen and please remain standing for a moment’s silence for: ‘Lupo, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s English cocker spaniel… has died’ (Times); ‘We will miss him so much’ (Metro); ‘Very sadly, last weekend our dog, Lupo, passed away’ – quotes the Telegraph with report on page 3; ‘Heartache for Wills and Kate as beloved Lupo dies’ mourns the Mail’s frontpage which also refers readers to their page three for further details. Who would have guessed we were still a nation of such staunch canine-centric monarchists?

    Having said that at the top we still have some seemingly strong Roundhead and Puritan tendencies: ‘Pubs and restaurants to pay price in tougher tier system… so shops cinemas and gyms can reopen…’ (Telegraph) – no fun or socialising is approved but keep buying stuff, imbibing the propaganda and pursuing the body perfect.

    Socialism is back: ‘Renationalisation of railways gathers speed’ and ‘Sunak pledges no return to austerity with £2Bn for public services’ (Telegraph) – poor old Jeremy Corbyn will be turning the earth in his allotment, and after all the veg – ‘Vegans 40% more likely to suffer a bone fracture’ (Times) – perhaps thinking of some nice flowers next season he could make up into a wreath?

    BBC-backed identity politics rolls on to its inevitable destination of segregation and apartheid: ‘Split BBC sports prize, says Judy Murray, Separate categories should be set up for men and women in Sports Personality of the Year’ (Telegraph) – where to even begin with this one? What about the Trans, we ask? But let’s allow our Judy to explain her rationale for this change… ‘because no woman has won the prize in the past decade’. But when there is a super-achieving sportswoman our Judy apparently is happy to devalue her winning of the prize by having her share it with a male?

    The ladies are doing themselves no favours today in the papers. Chloë Sevigny [US actress, model and fashionista] insists: ‘I still think that if I buy a particular pair of shoes my life will change’ (‘i’) The Mirror has ‘Corrie Jane’ [That’s soap actress Jane Danson from Coronation Street – apparently that’s still on TV]: ‘I cried filming my most harrowing scenes in 23 years on the Street’ – I’ll make a point of missing that.

    However, we’ll loiter on the Street for a moment to hear: ‘Corrie Bev’s indecent proposal. Wanted romp in thong and socks, so she said’ – read all about it in your Daily Star.

    Seems we began with Downing Street’s daft Xmas proposals and come full circle to the soap star’s saucy X-rated proposals. There’s a kind of symmetry.

    Meanwhile, for a change, the chaps are fine and dandy: ‘Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen on camp, class and the return of Changing Rooms’ – in the Guardian proving, if nothing else, there’s nothing new on TV.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Does seem ironic that so many violently objected to comrade Corbyn and now have a red Tory ‘government ‘ happily throwing billions of borrowed money around if a celebrity says they should – or if it is ‘popular ‘…. the bill for this is going to be a mountain – if not Everest – ….

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  27. StewGreen says:

    9am Radio4 actually not obviously marxist or black this morning
    ..I guess they’ll shove in some anti-Trump stuff.

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    • DYKEVISIONS says:

      Radio Bore however did have the sound of a Great Tit at 7.25am.

      Apparently, Swallows are not going South any more, due to the Caribbean climate we have all been having during our recent winters.

      So they bused in, rent a quote, Stephen Moss who could not help himself platforming what ‘we’ are doing to upset the planet with alarmist talk of ‘climate extinction’.

      Lo and behold , the mask slipped when he mentioned …’in my book’ .. a new one was published last month, quelle surprise!

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      • Darcy3 says:

        Makes a change from the sound of the Great Tit giving daily Govt Covid briefings

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      • StewGreen says:

        @StephenMoss_TV tweeted
        “We need to do something about the climate crisis and we need to do it NOW.” Check out my interview on the plight of the Swallow on @BBCr4today at 08.25

        Previously he tweeted Nov 16
        Late autumn swallows on the rise – linked with climate change and this *stupidly mild November*… problem is that it is unlikely to survive the journey south…

        Last 2 days here, there has been a frost
        with a pretty low daytime temperature

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  28. StewGreen says:

    10am : Özlem Cekic was one of the first women with a Muslim immigrant background to enter the Danish parliament.
    When she started receiving *hate email* from people who thought she should ‘go home’, she just deleted or ignored it.

    Then one day she decided to go and meet some of the senders.
    She was offered coffee and home-made cake at their houses, and talked with them for hours. So began a decade of trying to build bridges with people who hold extreme views.
    She tells Jane why she is convinced we should try to listen and understand them, and confront our own prejudices in the process.
    Sounds like it was she that compromised the most.

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    • Darcy3 says:

      “trying to build bridges with people who hold extreme views.”

      She would be better served, and society much safer and cohesive, if she did that amongst her own community first

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  29. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    The Palestinian enclave is running out of ventilators as Covid-19 cases continue to soar, experts have warned.

    ***

    What kind ‘experts’, inevitably ‘warning’, are referred to here?

    It is surely a matter of data.

    Luckily Iran has the 134.3452% effective Biden Lab vaccine ready to deploy by Grad if Israel can be required to stand down Iron Dome to deliver it.

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  30. Guest Who says:

    Maybe Smack Marshalls can be combined with TVL ‘officers’.

    Same spec.

       20 likes

    • JimS says:

      Are the social workers dealing with parents who smack, or the little brats who need a smack?

      Either way, more work for the police, judiciary, prison and probation service – all paid for by oil that has to stay in the ground to meet National Socialist Sturgeon’s ‘Green’ targets!

      (I bet that is why she wants to stay in the EU. Get them to bring in a ‘set aside’ scheme where her gang gets paid not to drill).

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  31. StewGreen says:

    11am : The plight of WHITE actress in in the West End in Covid times
    ..nope I mean BAME

    and as a BAME performer in a world which is only recently seeing increasing diversity, there’s a danger that people like her will not be able to afford the luxury of waiting for the theatres to re-open.

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  32. Stuart the Shrimper says:

    Shouldn’t November 27th be known as “Friday of Colour”?

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  33. Darcy3 says:

    “DAY OF BLOODSHED Two men knifed to death and woman critical with gunshot as London hit by three bloody attacks in seven hours”

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13268199/london-cemetery-stabbing-death-fatal-mourners-shut-in/

    Meanwhile BLM want to defund the Police, and our London Mayor wants to limit stop and search

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Darcy – I don’t report the details much here any more – but the ‘rate ‘ of killing – which I do watch – is around one every 4 days – which is about the same as pre COVID times – means the annual number of deaths is about 130 for the London area excluding any coming attacks by the religion of peace ….

      ..there are still plenty of third world peasants being locked up for working for the profit planning attacks – Fridays evening standard has a good one – who specialised in mosques – but he only got 3 years when I d have topped him to be on the safe side ….

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      • Jeff says:

        The killing in Brixton is in an area I’m very familiar with. I have friends that still live on the Blenheim Gardens estate. You know, it could be such a nice area…

        It seems so incongruous on this inner city estate, but there’s a lovely old windmill that local enthusiasts have renovated and managed to get working. Close by they grow the type of wheat that would have been around when the mill was first built and Brixton was full of fields and farms. I have a bag of their flour in my kitchen.

        Brixton has for decades been undergoing “gentrification”. Lots of well heeled, middle class whites moving into some of the splendid, old Georgian houses. To cater for them there are organic markets and trendy bars and bistros. The place has so much potential, but…

        There are gangsters, prostitutes and drugs; indeed the usual human detritus that seems to follow the Caribbean community where ever they go. I don’t know why it’s like this, but it always is…

        They barely mention the statistics now. The media aren’t interested. And unless some black person is stopped by a policeman for speeding the wrong way along a one way street, there are no riots from BLM. Then there are protests, the BBC interview lots of left-wing agitators and angry black people. There will be calls for resignations. The pathetic police commissioner, the aptly named Dick of the Yard, will offer a grovelling apology. And then the entire circus moves on.

        But another dead boy, nothing…

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      • StewGreen says:

        London Crime reports feed with a lot of videos

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  34. andyjsnape says:

    Israel PM ‘flew to Saudi Arabia for secret talks with crown prince’
    reports the bBC
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-55042055

    Not SECRET anymore

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  35. Laughing at Lefties says:

    [video src="https://video.parler.com/0V/bH/0VbHMLdbqc2F.mp4" /]

    Libfilth will never report on this. They have no regard for human life.

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  36. tarien says:

    Coronavirus declared a Pandemic, when there is not the slightest trace of a pandemic. A pandemic might be the condition, when the death to infection rate reaches more than 12%, and in Europe so it was declared last spring it was 0.4%.
    At any rate the real danger we now apparently are all facing or about to is ‘Agenda 1D 2020’.
    What is Agenda ID 2020? As far as I can ascertain it’s an alliance of public-private partners, including UN agencies and civil society. It’s an electronic ID program that uses generalized vaccination as a platform for digital identity. The program harnesses existing birth registration and vaccination operations to provide newborns with a portable and persistent biometrically-linked digital identity. GAVI, the Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization, identifies itself on its website as a global health partnership of public and private sector organizations dedicated to “immunization for all”. GAVI is supported by WHO, and needless to say, its main partners and sponsors are the pharma-industry-naturally. It all sounds like absolute control to me.
    Following are a few lines written by a Peter Koenig an economist and geopolitical analyst.
    ‘It seems, the more there is written about the causes of the Coronavirus – the more the written analyses are overshadowed by a propaganda and fear-mongering hype. Questions for the truth and arguments for where to look for the origins and how the virus may have spread and how to combat it, are lost in the noise of wanton chaos. But isn’t that what the “Powerful financial elites” behind this intended pandemic want – chaos, panic, hopelessness, leading to human vulnerability – a people becoming easy prey for manipulation?’ And now we have got just that-no way will the renowned so complete in indifference BBC mention such-not even the overly sympathetic to the poor folk of Africa – Fergul keane their saviour would indulge us with his thoughts-he’d be shot.

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  37. BRISSLES says:

    Sadly (or gladly), its the last of the community singing for this year – “you’ve all done very well…..” so here is my last offering…..

    DON’T DECK THE HALLS

    Don’t deck the halls with boughs of holly
    Tra-la-la la la la-la la la
    Christmas won’t be all that jolly
    Tra-la-la la la la-la la la

    If your family’s on the large side
    Some of you might have to hide
    Visitors you will be ditching
    That’ll stop the neighbours sniiiiiitching !!!

    (Well, there MIGHT be just one more in the pipeline….)

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      Oh, Little Town of Bedlam
      Silent Night, Curfew Night
      In the Bleak Mid-Pandemic
      Hark the NHS Angels Demand More Pay
      Good King Wenceslas Went Out – & had an illegal gatherings penalty slapped on him
      On the fifth day of Christmas my true love brought to me – five tiered restrictions… four snitching neighbours, three French Brexit demands, two chlorinated chickens, and a partidge in a face mask.

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  38. AsISeeIt says:

    Softly softly catchee naughty editorial BBC monkey

    Unfortunately even Newsniffer, the mainstream media altered reports watchdog, missed the quick-off-the-mark stealth editing BBC this morning change their “Covid-19: Oxford vaccine 70% effective” to a far more compliant “Covid-19: Oxford University vaccine is highly effective”

    How does it go… Trick me once, shame on you, trick me twice, shame on me, trick me three times… shame on us both?

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  39. StewGreen says:

    Simon Webb discusses the banning of the term “Anglo-Saxon history” cos it’s a “far right” word
    It stems from a BBC History Magazine article one year ago
    AFAIK the BBC no longer own the BBC-magazine division

    Michael Wood wrote :“As a racism row rumbles on, is it time to retire the term ‘Anglo-Saxon’?”
    https://www.historyextra.com/period/anglo-saxon/professor-michael-wood-anglo-saxon-name-debate-is-term-racist/

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    • Jeff says:

      The BBC are terribly squeamish about English history. They’re not at all keen on showing English heroes like Nelson, Scott and Drake. Unless of course they can find something nasty to attribute to them.

      Worse than anything is how they casually distort our history. I’ve mentioned this before, but one of the most glaring examples was a Dan Snow attempt at showing us the Battle of Hastings. Or should I say, the updated, PC and BBC approved version of that iconic event.

      According to the dramatized Dan Snow battle, William the Conqueror’s main lieutenant was a black chap. His name was (something like) Sir Roger DeFortescue) or thereabouts. According to the Beeb account he was the brains behind the successful rout of the Anglo Saxons.

      It’s little wonder that we’ve got kids who believe the Battle of Waterloo happened in a railway station and the Battle of Britain occurred in 1066, with Winston Churchill losing an eye.
      It would be laughable if it wasn’t quite so tragic.

      You know I’ve scoured every inch of The Bayeux Tapestry, but for the life of me I can’t find the brave lieutenant, Sir Roger anywhere.

      Bloody racist weavers…

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      • Darcy3 says:

        The “success rout” was based on most of them running way, until they noticed the Saxons pursue them thus losing their height advantage and shield wall, so they decided to hang around for a bit and see what happened

        So Sir Winston Mbulu III or whatever was good at running away

        It could be Mr Snow was confusing Hastings with Rourkes Drift of course. an easy mistake to make

        Next from the Snows, how Martin Luther King sunk the Bismarck

        How Frank Bruno single handedly took Arnhem Bridge (without getting knocked down once for a change)

        Whoopi Goldberg and the War of the Roses

        Idi Amin and the Magna Carta

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        • Richard Pinder says:

          I thought:

          (1) Martin Luther King, culturally appropriated a German and English Surname and reformed Germany by introducing a Diet of Worms.
          (2) Frank Bruno culturally appropriated a German surname and became a top Italian mathematician
          (3) Whoopi Goldberg culturally appropriated the surname of a German Jew and was depicted in a German newspaper during World War II as “The Ideal German Soldier”
          (4) Idi Amin culturally appropriated an Arab surname and culturally appropriated the official titles of His Royal Highness and Magnificence, Idi Amin Dada Oumee VC, DSO, MC, CBE, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire, and by the Grace of God, King of Scotland and the Isles.

          In fact, not only was the last King of Scotland culturally appropriated by a Black, but its possible that Scotland’s James Bond could be culturally or sexually appropriated by a Black or Female James or Jane Bond. Bond was born near Skyfall Lodge, Glen Etive, Scotland on the 11th November 1920, to Andrew Bond of Glencoe, and Monique Delacroix of Vaudt, Switzerland.

          Just as I remember the men in kilts in the “Black and White Minstrel Show”. Cultural appropriation is turning the Scots Black.

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          • Darcy3 says:

            Dub mac Maíl Coluim (Modern Gaelic: Dubh mac Mhaoil Chaluim, , sometimes anglicised as Duff MacMalcolm, called Dén, “the Vehement” and, “the Black” (born c. 928 – died 967) was king of Alba.

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      • Despairada says:

        I think that was Robert de Beaumont, later First Earl of Leicester. What portrait evidence exists argues against any of this family being any shade of brown.

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  40. Darcy3 says:

    “ISIS bride Shamima Begum poses ‘real and serious’ terror threat if she is allowed to return to UK to fight for her British citizenship, Supreme Court hears”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8977531/ISIS-bride-Shamima-Begum-poses-real-terror-threat-allowed-return-UK.html

    BUT

    From the appeal court hearing:

    “Lord Justice Flaux – sitting with Lady Justice King and Lord Justice Singh – said: ‘Fairness and justice must, on the facts of this case, outweigh the national security concerns, so that the leave to enter appeals should be allowed.’

    Yeh, right lets be fair and allow self proclaimed anti British terrorists back on principle

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  41. Darcy3 says:

    The vicious [email protected] are lining up to get back in, I wonder why ?

    Also today, the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (SIAC) will hear the cases of three individuals with British-Bangladeshi heritage whose British citizenship has been revoked on the grounds of national security.

    SIAC – a specialist tribunal which hears challenges to decisions to remove someone’s British citizenship on national security grounds – will hear appeals by two women, known only as C3 and C4, who also allegedly travelled to Syria from the UK to join IS.

    At the same time, the tribunal will hear an appeal brought by a man referred to only as C7, whose British citizenship was revoked earlier this year after he too allegedly travelled to Syria to join to IS.

    All three claim the decision to remove their British citizenship rendered them stateless and was therefore unlawful, which is denied by the Home Office.

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  42. vlad says:

    Whatever the reasons for Sidney Powell’s sacking, hard evidence of election fraud continues to pile up.

    “This is some of the strongest and hardest evidence i’ve seen for a very significant anomaly, that can’t be brushed off.”

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  43. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1
    TWatO Watch #1 combined – no mention of the ‘C’ word

    As indicated by Roland Deschain further back on this Thread, compulsion is the ‘C’ word that might be a ‘C’ word too far. It was interesting that in both programmes, the presenters did not mention the Compulsory word in relation to the Covid-19 vaccine. even with Mishal Husain interviewing Matt Hancock, SoS for Health this morning.

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  44. Sluff says:

    On the subject of Toady watch, and hope I’m not repeating others’ comments.

    At around 0720 they had the topic of post lockdown tiers.
    They had a short interview with some Prof. or other.

    Then they had a much longer and unchallenging interview with that famous globally recognised epidemiology expert……errr……….Andy Burnham !

    Who entirely predictably went straight into ‘hero opposing the government’ electioneering mode by repeatedly making the same point on behalf of pubs and restaurants whilst offering nothing of substance.

    Readers may well agree with him of course, and that’s fine.
    But impartial BBC coverage it was not.

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  45. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #2 – now there’s a surprise

    The Greenie BBC, including the Horror Bin, Matt McGrim and others were all saying – with all their scientific knowledge – how England Lockdown 1 was going to benefit the Climate Change and knock degrees off the Global Warming temperature. While the sun shone and we all stayed home.

    Some of us expected the narrative to continue as before. It did.

    On TWatO, a nice young Russian lady – Russian! BBC, are we meant to believe her data after all you have said in the recent past? – explained that lots of noxious nasties were put in the atmosphere this year. Any Novichoks? Covid-19 as well? No, just nasty nitrous oxides and carbon dioxide and methane and water vapour to create plenty of Anthropogenic Global Warming.

    So when you were lying around at home in the sun, splashing in the paddling pool, drinking soft fizzy drinks or cocktails, farting methane when no-one was looking or listening, it was all your fault that the planet is continuing to bake.

    Who knew that James Naughtie, driving around in circles in the USA for the American Presidential Election, would push out all that CO2: “Step away from that Double Burger, Jim.”

    Meanwhile, some meterologist is predicting the coldest of cold winters. And all the swallows who have decided to overwinter here are all going to die.

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  46. Darcy3 says:

    Another advert with black man unable to find a black wife. bless, poor thing. Bleeding Post Office over 50 s insurance

    Where are the Black Wives Matter demos ?

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  47. Fedup2 says:

    Their PM is to address the Nation in a press conference Monday Afternoon . The news about a vaccine will be pushed out .

    So who wants to bet on the first journo question ?

    My guess is –
    “Pm why havent to sacked the minister for strong statements – priti patel ?

    Are you going to resign ?

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  48. vlad says:

    Amidst all the speculation as to the reasons for Sidney Powell’s dismissal, there’s one somewhat prosaic explanation. Namely that it’s all about money: greedy Republican campaign fund managers and beneficiaries not wanting to spend money on her team, preferring to keep it for themselves.

    Sounds too grubby and petty? Remember, we’re dealing with politicians.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/22/republican-business-interests-separate-from-sidney-powell/#more-204195

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  49. StewGreen says:

    #Shame_On_BBC is trending cos in Pakistan Imran Khan supports are using against the BBC

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  50. Guest Who says:

    Bet Zux, Worzel, Bezel and Google Din are thrilled at how their support is playing out…

    France’s Le Maire to push digital tax in first contact with Biden officials

    French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire said he would press the new Biden administration in his first contacts with them on Monday to quickly back an overhaul of international taxation of digital companies.

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