392 Responses to Weekend Thread 14 November 2020

  1. Guest Who says:

    I lived in Hong Kong well before a BBC DG messed things up there too.

    The police force there worked well with minority supervision by those with talent and experience.

    Ramming the Met with diversity hires will work as well as bbc editorial.


  2. Fedup2 says:

    One of the recurring ‘best up whitee ‘ lines used to be

    ‘Why are there so many coloured in prison ?”

    This one doesn’t show up so often these days – if you include the murderers you mention – the other beasts who are eventually locked up for some ‘time ‘ – and the Islamic terrorists counting down the days until they can kill kaffirs again ..

    That’s a big number

    So the question is buried for the time being – until the next coloured criminal dies in custody …..


  3. vlad says:

    In case anyone fancies watching some nasty far-right Trump supporters gathering in Washington, Right Side Broadcasting Network will be covering the event later.

    There may even be some action if those nice law-abiding Antifa / BLM rioters engage in some mostly peaceful Burning, Looting and Murdering, as is their wont.

    RSBN have faithfully covered all the (huge) Trump rallies for months. At some point Trump usually challenges the msm broadcasters to “turn the cameras around and show the crowds”. They never do, of course, except for RSBN.

    The rallies have been strangely uplifting events: diverse with people of all backgrounds and races; good-natured and bursting with hope and optimism, the crowds often chanting “We love you” (and they mean it). The speeches are frequently preceded by prayers from priests and pastors of various denominations. (Americans tend to be more religious than Brits, and not shy to show their faith in public, much to the horror of the bien-pensant secular media.)

    The rallies are more than political campaigns, they’re crusades – sorry beeb, I know that’s a dirty word for you – with crowds often traveling large distances to attend, in all weather.

    The enthusiasm and positivity are something the BBC has never understood – could not or would not – and certainly never reported.

    (The nearest the msm got was to call it a personality cult with echoes of Nazism; their all-purpose put-down for anything they don’t like or can’t understand.)


  4. Dobyns says:

    Never to be heard on al beeb

    More on Dominion


    • vlad says:

      Wow, VERY interesting. This woman’s on FIRE!

      Venezuela, Chavez, Cuba, China, Hunter Biden, thousands of testimonies, criminal investigations, corrupt security services, corrupt media and social media, corrupt government officials, ‘on the precipice of a new American Revolution’, ‘a foul mess’, sinister conspiracies…

      “It is indeed a very foul mess, further and wider and deeper than we ever thought, but we are going to go after it and I am going to expose every one of them.”

      KAPOW! That there’s fightin’ talk, gal!

      Analyse THAT, beeb!



    • Doublethinker says:

      If what the lady claims is only a quarter true and if the investigation begins to uncover it we can expect an attempt to remove physically remove Trump from the White House and install Biden , ie essentially a coup . It may seem far fetched but in my view there are a lot of very powerful people who will end up in prison if vote rigging on this scale is proven and if Trump therefore wins a second term. They will try and do whatever it takes to stop the investigation and to install Biden. We have seen over the past four years the extra ordinary power these people have and how unscrupulously they will use it. They have even more reason to play for keeps now.


  5. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Am afraid the evidence is against you, Professor

    Two scientists on the TOADY Prog to talk about Covid-19, one was Ann(e) Johns(t)on(e)* but cannot remember the name of the one who said something that is obviously wrong and really exemplified the paucity and poverty of good teaching and learning today.

    The other Professor, not Ann Johnson, said Covid-19 had hit the poorest hardest – or words to that effect. This ignores the evidence that the first victims of Covid were affluent white people on a world cruise! Then there was the Doctor who returned from a ski trip with Covid-19 and infected his practice. They were followed by all sorts of affluent people, usually actors, actresses and musicians who proudly proclaimed their victimhood on the UK’s newspaper front pages. Then our PM and some Cabinet Ministers caught the Covid virus and I guess they were not short of a bob or two.

    If you were travelling the globe – it is said four million Britons were affluent enough to be abroad when the first Lockdown was initiated and were caught out by it – you were much more likely to catch Covid-19 as an early victim and bring it home. You only travel if you can afford to pay for it or can afford to take on the debt.

    I find the ignorance of a University Professor, or the desire of a University Professor to spread a falsehood, quite alarming. I assume she teaches. What are her students learning?

    There was no challenge or correction from the TOADY presenter!

    (* I really miss the Running Order for the TOADY Prog that used to be put up on the programme’s Web Page. It was a great way of checking names and spellings. Apologies if I have got Ann Johnson wrong although I did cover the variations in one attempt.)


    • Fedup2 says:

      I think they dumped the Running Order because it gave factual evidence about what is ‘approved’ and what is not

      Including amount of time given to important ‘ interviews’ before the weather or 0856 ….

      I got tired of the ‘squeezing’ technique they use to kill off proper discussion or debate …

      And American accents which would akways be former obama employees …


  6. StewGreen says:

    “The Algerian Strategy” apparently
    What the Democrats are doing is called the Algerian Strategy.
    Using riots, destruction, violence as leverage, telling us “vote for us or else!”.


    • vlad says:

      Aka ‘the Colour Revolution’.

      Alt tech have been talking about it since the start of ‘the troubles’ in America.


  7. StewGreen says:

    As I said before The idea that Fox is 100% Trump network is a pure stereotype
    Lots of Fox presenters have always been anti-Trump.


  8. Roland Deschain says:

    How the media works.


    • Dobyns says:



    • StewGreen says:

      Another from Scott Adams
      “Correct me if I am wrong,
      but 100% of the press and pundits who have NOT personally analyzed the voting data say there are no identified problems
      … while 100% of the people who HAVE analyzed the data see lots of problems.
      Am I wrong? “


  9. Doobster78 says:

    Sums it up really !!


  10. Dobyns says:

    I spent the last half hour yelling and screaming at my grandmother about voting for Biden.

    Then I left the cemetery & went home!


  11. Dobyns says:

    An excellent article explaining the reasoning for the need for the structure of the Constitution and Electoral College processes.



    • theisland says:

      Thanks. This article demonstrates how ignorant our politicians (and of course the media) are about the subtleties of the US Constitution.

      Note to Boris – you do not need to kowtow to loser Biden or to Labour over the EU.
      Give us a proper BREXIT and repeal the bloody WA now.


    • G says:


      Whatever but, once DJT has sorted out this temporary blip in his residency of the W/H, America needs to cleanse itself of all the communists. ALL. Another phase of McCarthyism is needed. The US needs to know where all the money has come from to finance all of this. We all know pretty well the answer to that. Arrests must be made for treason irrespective of how rich and powerful the communists are.


  12. Guest Who says:

    This bozo has zero sense of irony.


    • Van Helsing says:


      That’s a bit harsh.

      On bozos, I mean.


    • StewGreen says:

      “cases” always have been dependent on amount of testing
      “with Covid deaths” is also a flaky stat due misattribution
      Excess deaths is the key stat cos that proves Covid has shifted the normal death pattern
      but even then it’s usually a case of an old severe cancer patient dying now instead of in 3 months time.

      Any reporting like Byant’s that doesn’t give ontext to deaths is #FakeNews


  13. Dazed and Confused says:

    More lies from the BBC, currently claiming that Amazon and YouTube are considered live television.. Soon, everyone that comments here, will need a licence fee to do so, if we are to believe the BBC..


    • LynetteO says:

      Assistant Director of Cisca (the Cyber Security and Infrastructure security agency ) Bob Koalasky said that the November 3rd election was the most secure in American history and that none of the voting machines had been tampered with.

      Reaserching his job experiances reveals that his first job was Communications field assistant for the Democratic leadership Council . If you are able to google this ( access was blocked later for me) it reads that its aim is to get democrats elected . The founder of the Democratic leadership council was Bill Clinton.


    • G says:


      Sounds like a reference to the Malicious Communications Act is needed. Call the police and obtain their input/help…………….Best of luck.


    • StewGreen says:

      Belfield uses a 2 minute delay : so in reality his “live” shows are NOT live, but as live
      AFAIK if you are watching a live event on streaming
      eg Tennis on Netflix .. the law says you must have a licence

      is a live podcast the same as live TV ?
      It wouldn’t be if Belfied went just audio I guess


  14. tarien says:

    For a second when reading that S. Javid was tipped to be B Johnson’s next chief of staff, thought I was having a nightmare. Apart from the fact that he was I feel never a Brexit man, he is one that follows strictly Islamic law. No way should he be trusted, cannot understand the proposal of his role as C O Staff? Perhaps someone will enlighten me.


  15. Guest Who says:

    Also ITBB…


    As Israel has JezBo, Trump has American Beauty, so the party in power that is not Labour has Lewis.

    Politics and political media has always seemed more of a game for inadequates to strut with zero chance of consequence, and the losers are always the public.

    But a national broadcaster rammed with petty grudge bearers in such singular directions seems incredibly odd.


  16. Guest Who says:

    Craig has also noticed Spring has sprung… well, everywhere!


    Also, by amazing coincidence in singular directions politically when focussing on ‘facts’ to ‘check’.

    She does like the look of herself to be sure, but one might suspect having bbc bile pushed relentlessly by less easy to see bbc harpies of maturity might have been assessed to reduce its appeal, and hence the selection process was likely very much based on #backendofbusism with a side order of peroxide.

    That way they have more fun. Champion will be livid.


    • Guest Who says:

      And here she is again, selecting ‘experts’.


      • Guest Who says:

        Lurch (with brackets).


      • JamesArthur says:

        Don’t you just love it when they just make up stuff that only seems to apply to the people/groups they hate
        “Experts fear online disinformation has undermined faith in democracy for millions.” Funny it seems that statement suits the Democrats, MSM and big Tech more than Republicans and us dumb asse3

        Why does the BBC think they have a monopoly on fact checking and saying what is disinformation

        In fact since ‘disinformation is:
        “false information with the intention to deceive public opinion” then the BBC is great at it and Marianna is an expert – apparently


        • Dobyns says:


          Same reason as Don’Give A F*ckZuck and Jack Dorsey think they can “Fact Check” their platforms



  17. Doobster78 says:

    BBC love championing a Peado !!!

    Creepy , creepy git !!!

    Again, msm won’t have any qualms !!!!

    If this was Trump, Farage, Boris , the media would be looking for blood.


    • vlad says:

      This vid alone should disqualify the old perv.
      Note that many of the girls are cringing and squirming to get away from the paedo.

      Children know.

      Some of the mums don’t look too please either. One of them seems to say, “ok, that’s enough of that”.

      Like father like son.


    • Red Pill says:

      Jeez, that is one seriously creepy f*cker. If that was a Republican the Democrats and chums at the BBC would be all over it. Genuinely uncomfortable to watch.


      • Oaknash says:

        If he was in England the BBC would give him his own TV show .
        Now what would they call it ?
        hmmmmmmmmmmm – How about Jo’ll Fix It!


  18. Guest Who says:

    BBC Tell It Often Enough News

    Far-right and anti-government groups have indicated they will attend the event, amid heightened tensions over the election result.


    • vlad says:

      Yes, they couldn’t just be normal conservative-leaning folk who like Trump’s policies and don’t want socialism.

      I notice the report also casually states as fact that “Joe Biden won the 3 November election”.

      Maybe, but it’s not confirmed till all the counting – and re-counting – is done.

      And they just HAD to post a clip of Saint Obama.


  19. Guest Who says:

    BS seriously raising ‘orange’?


    • Van Helsing says:


      Tell me this isn’t the same BBC who kept shtum about serious allegations concerning Biden, his son and certain foreign powers?


      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        Remember the Trump supporters in 2016 chanting “Lock her up!” about Mrs Clinton, who seems fortunate to have avoided trial and possibly prison. If there are grounds for sending President Trump to jail, what are they? And why is Hilary immune? Don’t expect any analysis from the Dem-BBC.


  20. Darcy3 says:

    Trump fans cheer the President’s motorcade as he leaves the White House for his golf course surrounded by huge crowds of supporters in DC for the ‘Million MAGA March’ – while Joe and Jill go for a quiet bike ride

    Thousands gathered in Freedom Plaza in Washington DC on Saturday for a pro-Trump ‘Million MAGA March’
    Trump’s motorcade passed by the ecstatic cheering crowd as he went to his Virginia golf course
    The rally is being held in support of Trump’s unsubstantiated claims of widespread election fraud
    Taking part were far-right groups such as the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers militia group
    Despite the name, organizers had predicted about 10,000 participants, and appeared to easily that
    Left-wing groups and self-proclaimed anarchists also showed up to confront Trump’s supporters



  21. StewGreen says:

    #TwitterBias: US Dems always seem to gaming the Twitter system to get free PR
    (The same in the old days people would game the book/record charts)

    In Twitter’s selected “for you” *SCIENCE* section
    It pushes 5 tweets at me
    Very often some of the tweets are not-Science, but rather either anti-Trump PR , or climate propaganda
    ..usually the first tweet and more.

    Today the opening tweet is
    “from : Biden-Harris Presidential Transition @Transition46
    We face four historic crises…. ”

    It’s a video Tweet starting with a still of Biden talking to a beardy guy
    titled : Are we READY ?
    The end screen says : “Visit BuildBackBetter.com”



    • StewGreen says:

      Checking in another browser
      In another section Arts and Culture News another Biden story was pushed at me as #4
      At least it had a direct connection
      It was titled “How will Joe Biden’s presidency affect arts and culture in America ?”
      It’s hardly top ranking it has only 132 Likes


    • Guest Who says:

      Suspect that the bubble blob’s addiction to twitter significantly contributes to their failure to grasp the way the vast majority who do not occupy their incestuous little cabal think.


  22. Guest Who says:

    And yet BBC American BS is joined at its hip.


    • StewGreen says:

      context : CNN’s Christiane Amanpour* compared Trump to Nazis purging Jews
      with a Nazi video sequence etc.

      * nationality British-Iranian


  23. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    If Biden manages to cheat his way into the White House then what will happen in 2024.

    Donald looks like he will be running for President again but there’s a huge problem.

    The democrats will do nothing about the widespread vote rigging and cheating which they used to claim victory so you can expect the same cheating to happen again depending on how many extra votes they need to say they have won.
    It’s bad enough with a Republican Government so imagine how much more worse it will be when these corrupt shenanigans are either ignored or ‘winked’ at when the democrats hold power.

    That makes it impossible for Donald to win.

    The Republican voters will think ‘what’s the point in voting when we will be cheated’ and many will not bother voting.
    This will further decrease any Republican vote.

    If the American voting system remains corrupt then there’s no point in ever having elections again, the democrats will carry on cheating so that they win every time.

    Trump HAS to get all this democrat corruption out in the open otherwise the Republicans might as well disband.

    Last night,Trump said the people of New York can have the vaccine when the Governor (a Trump hating democrat) will allow them to have it. He wants to let them have the vaccine as soon as possible but the governor is stopping it.
    Today in the Daily Mail it says Trump denies the vaccine to the people of New York.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The lesson is learnt – fix the counting /postal votes in enough states and you steal an election . No need to waste time on policy or speeches . Or – indeed manifestos . The same goes for the UK

      Only the military could be trusted to do the process -but even then if IT systems are corruptible so are elections ….


    • vlad says:

      If the Dems win they have an arsenal of options to prevent a Republican ever winning again, at least in the foreseeable future.


  24. Fedup2 says:

    As the number of coloured boys averages one every 7 days in London the latest one who ‘doesn’t matter ‘was

    Jamalie Maleek Deacon Matthew

    There is no mention of a suspect description so you can view it as not a ‘racial ‘ . Apparently it happened midweek around 4pm – which in my mind is the most dangerous time to be in the street in London ….as schools turn out … .


  25. Fedup2 says:

    I’m just finishing wading through The West Wing and going through the final 7th season – which concentrates on a very close election (no spoiler ) – but because of what has happened in Real Life The West Wing looks old and phoney ….
    But if you have never seen it – do – especially for Sorkins’ writing in the early series ….


    • vlad says:

      I dipped in to one or two episodes a few years ago, and got the impression the good guys were always the Dems and the baddies Republicans. But maybe I was just unlucky.

      Anyway who needs fiction when fact is so much more incredible?


  26. Fedup2 says:

    Real life ? Faked – there is no evidence for it – it is disputed –

    If Biden finishes off the swindle I guess his people will continue to hide him behind COVID to keep his public appearance minimal .


  27. StewGreen says:

    TV planners MO re history progs
    White heroes : drag them down
    Black unknowns : hype them up

    Ch5 8:40pm Lord Mountbatten: Hero or Villain?
    managed to charm his way out of blame for his key role in the disastrous Dieppe raid in 1942 as well as the bloodshed caused by his rushed handling of independence as India’s last viceroy. After all this, perhaps it scarcely matters if he was bisexual; but the photographer Allan Warren’s story of the earl being caught with his trousers down

    Sunday BBC 9pm : new drama series Small Axe
    On 9 August 1970, 150 protestors marched against police harassment in Notting Hill. This is the story of the Mangrove 9, a group of Black activists who were arrested for leading the protest and who changed British history by taking a stand against racial discrimination.


  28. StewGreen says:

    Certain people are allowed to be heroes
    “The Turkish-German husband-and-wife team
    responsible for the development of the vaccine.”

    is the new libmob narrative I have seen today all over
    .. This weeks R4 Profile is about them Ugur Sahin and Ozlem Tureci

    Hmm I bet they are good people , but probably not the key key people but rather 2 out of hundreds.


  29. Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

    Radio 4 brief news at 21:00. Report of pro-Trump demo in Washington and reference to his “unfounded” claims of voting fraud.

    Even by the BBC’s standards, this is very bad. I could have lived with “exaggerated” or “disputed” or even “controversial” – setting the bar very low for the BBC (usually a good idea!) – but “unfounded” just will not do. There was no concession to the mass of affidavits and evidence emerging, just flat denial.


    • Van Helsing says:


      The problem is that they know they can say pretty much what they like about anyone to the right of Trotski with impunity.

      After all, who is going to stop them? The government is both weak and woke; the courts are populated by self-interested left-wingers; and the rest of the media either live in the same bubble or lack the influence to achieve anything.

      And the worst thing? We allowed this to happen.


  30. StewGreen says:

    Woman’s Hour today
    – East Tilbury popstar Anne-Marie Nicholson.

    – Newington Green, Islington : new Mary Wollstonecraft memorial a naked doll statue to represent all women.

    – London person : Rosa Monckton : Princess Diana’s best friend
    she’s Dominic Lawson’s wife

    – London person : Stella Dadzie talks about her new book Women, Slavery & Resistance,
    “Even though we don’t know their names but they were great heroes”
    made up idea
    Presenter Jane Garvey leapt in with “Yes yes where are the statues to these great black heroes”

    – Betty Cook talks about book co-written with Anne Scargill
    about the miners’ strike in 1984.


  31. Fedup2 says:

    You know when you think the MSM can’t descend further ?

    Well the observer /guardian has an Obituary – yes an obituary for Peter Sutcliffe ….perhaps they are coming around to the idea of killing women as ‘ok’ … I have n’t – won’t – can’t – read it …

    Curiously they have allowed ‘comments ‘.
    So I’ve got one – burn monster .


  32. StewGreen says:

    11am Sunday R4 guess who is on Desert island Discs ?

    Sir Keir Starmer


  33. Doobster78 says:

    Who knew the scum media would try and downplay it (insert shocked face) ……..


  34. StewGreen says:

    Rebel News on WEF and Trudeau hiding the Soros connection


  35. StewGreen says:

    Sunday 3pm R4 Caleb Femi, former Young People’s Laureate for London, looks back on his first experiences with sex and explores the pressures on teenage boys around losing their virginity.
    He speaks to his friend, the writer Yomi Sode, about their experiences growing up; to Nathaniel Cole, a workshop facilitator, writer and public speaker on mental health, masculinity, and relationships; and to a group of 17 year old boys from a London school.

    Another black London prog.


  36. vlad says:

    The lying BBC reports from today’s Trump rally in DC that there’s “a growing sense of a fight losing its energy”.

    I don’t know beeb, but if energy is measured in numbers…


  37. Guest Who says:

    Yet inside the bubble, it is what they give each other awards for.

    For some reason.


  38. Guest Who says:

    Bio like that, first DG of something or other in a few years.


  39. vlad says:



  40. taffman says:

    Al Beeb, Boris and his false Tory MPs be warned, Nigel Farage and The Reform Party are coming to get you. If you let Great Britain down with Brexit and her democracy you are finished.
    There is a growing tide of disgruntled Tory voters joining The Brexit Party watching and waiting…………………


  41. StewGreen says:

    That Orwellian label Twitter puts on tweets
    “This claim about election fraud is disputed”

    it’s dumb .. every time you accuse some one of a crime XYZ
    you can say “This claim about XYZ is disputed”
    … cos it’s always true until they own up.


  42. Loobyloo says:

    US Election 2020: The ‘dead voters’ in Michigan who are still alive https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54874120

    Wow, Al Beeb are certainly putting a lot of effort into fact checking this foreign election for us. No doubt whose side they are on.


  43. Loobyloo says:

    Covid-19: Labour calls for law to stop anti-vaccination fake news online https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54947661

    I can’t believe I live in the ‘west’ anymore.


  44. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    Well . Taffman, Farage is starting another pop-up party.
    I will give him a resounding cheer and a half. I won’t make it to the full three. I would lose enthusiasm on the way.

    Is there any chance he would join up with Laurence Fox? That might be an interesting combination.


  45. vlad says:

    Pfizer ‘sabotaged’ Trump by waiting until AFTER the election to announce the vaccine.

    Was ever a man so hated… for his fake tan?


    • Darcy3 says:

      “You can depend upon the Americans to do the right thing. But only after they have exhausted every other possibility” – Winston Churchill


  46. Darcy3 says:

    Diversity ? a weasel word, it just means black people getting what THEY want….

    London university that boasts of being one of the most diverse in the UK failed one year to admit a single white working class student, shows document

    SOAS, Uni of London failed in 2017 to admit single white working class student
    There are concerns white working class boys are forgotten in education system
    White pupils eligible for free school meals are half as likely as their peers from poor ethnic minority families to achieve strong passes at GCSE


    The document says the number of white undergraduates living in poor neighbourhoods that were recruited through the main UCAS admission round in 2017 was zero.

    All ethnic minority groups in England are now, on average, more likely to go to university than their white British peers.


  47. Darcy3 says:

    Ruth Langsford and Eamonn Holmes ‘are furious and upset after being DROPPED from This Morning and replaced by Alison Hammond and Dermot O’Leary’

    A source claimed: ‘Eamonn is pretty furious and everyone feels for him and Ruth, they are well liked on the team, but sometimes tough decisions have to be made’
    Eamonn and Ruth have presented every Friday on the show since 2006

    Earlier this year, The Mail on Sunday revealed that the programme’s editor was seeking to change the line-up to include a permanent black presenter


  48. Darcy3 says:

    A bit ? losing your job because you are white ? they should take legal action

    as should everyone who is “replaced” by a black person for no valid reason


  49. tomo says:

    Scytl *are* bankrupt though?

    – while they might be being smeared – if their underlying business model is fixing elections for megabucks – they’re going to fess up instantly and reveal all when challenged eh?