491 Responses to Start the Week Thread 9 November 2020

  1. Darcy3 says:

    America is racist ?

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  2. Darcy3 says:

    50 years ago racism in America

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  3. Darcy3 says:

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  4. Darcy3 says:

    Lets hope Harris with her hew new BMW can sort that one out

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  5. Doobster78 says:

    Just watched Ross Hawkins on BBC (I was waiting for weather forecast) tell me YET AGAIN there is NO EVIDENCE of vote tampering / fraud in the USA election !!!!!

    Staggering how many BBC journos haven’t been on the internet since election night !!!!!! Because it’s EVERYWHERE Ross you smarmy , smug little turd.

    Keep going Mr President

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Bashirgate in Diana’s brother’s own tweets

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  7. Guest Who says:

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  8. StewGreen says:

    Geraldo Rivera: ‘US press is overwhelmingly anti Trump and anti Republican Party’

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  9. Laughing at Lefties says:

    Not the BBC, but an example of the psychological warfare we’re facing and how it affects right-leaning sources as well. The link is their ‘reputation’ which breeds laziness and entitlement – they think that because they have status they don’t need to do anything to justify it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8925347/amp/Melania-Trump-counting-minutes-divorce-Donald-leaves-White-House.html

    No evidence is provided for this claim, other than “a source.” In fact, it’s not backed up by anything as Melania has come across as phenomenally supportive of Trump and has been recorded privately talking about how angry she is with the media’s misrepresentation of them both. To further confirm the sensationalism of this, they state that she “famously cried on election night in 2016 because she didn’t think he’d win.” The insinuation is that she wanted him to lose so she could leave him, but it could just as easily have been tears of happiness if it’s true. It’s just vague enough that they can claim plausile deniability, but the suggestion is obvious. As an aside, most of the media – again, both left and right – are saying (without evidence – how ironic!) that Trump’s family are telling him to concede. In fact, Melania, Donald Trump Jr, and Eric Trump have all publicly expressed their support for him and that it’s his constituional duty as president to see this through and ensure the election was legitimate.

    For whatever reason, Trump has become the American equivalent of Tommy Robinson for the British mainstream media. He’s beyond the pale regardless of his policies. What has he actually done to deserve any of this? They like to tell us it’s because of his brash manner or his politically incorrect rhetoric, but this is cognitive dissonence in right-wing news and indeed in many left-wing papers where they hire several contributers whose main objective seems to be as triumphalist and inflammatory as possible to get attention and clickbait. The real reason they hate Trump is because a) everyone else in the media circle-jerk is doing it and they don’t want to be the one that points out the emperor has no clothes, and b) he’s an outsider who, regardless of whether he’s self-made or not and his bankruptcies etc, has spent his entire career with the working and middle classes. It essentially comes down to snobbery, since it’s obviously not anything to do with his politics as most of them are similar to those of the media constantly attacking him.

    Remember though, as Brexit has shown, their real target isn’t really Trump but those who support him. They hate the fact that they have to share a country with people who don’t subscribe to cultural Marxism or identity victimhood and who don’t believe the world owes them everything and would rather earn it themselves. They hate the fact that Trump was able to circumvent the narrative and win two elections over establishment candidates, destroying the polls in the process. Most importantly, they hate the fact that he won’t give an inch to them, that he sees things for what they are and not what they want them to be, and that over 70 million people in the US alone are equally immune to their misinformation and hyperbole.

    As Trump himself said, “it’s you they’re after – I’m just in their way.” The Democrats have proven that by stealing their election result away from them just to spite one person. I have faith that both Trump and the American people won’t allow them to succeed in the end.

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  10. StewGreen says:

    COVID-19 has ‘apparently been completely solved by Biden presidency’

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    • JimS says:

      Better than that, Joe produced an effective vaccine in under a week!

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    • Doobster78 says:

      And due to covid they couldn’t vote in PERSON !!! Yet 2 days later ……..

      Funny old game hey !!!!

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  11. Roland Deschain says:

    For those in need of cheering up, another Downfall video.

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    • Scroblene says:

      Fabulous, Roland!

      I’m not usually laughing uncontrollably at 6.15 am, but this changed everything!

      Thank you!

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  12. StewGreen says:

    Dover barrack not good enough for asylum seekers.
    arrived at 2pm refused to get off bus for 5pm until police arrived on the scene.

    Police called to Folkestone’s Napier Barracks after ‘group of asylum seekers refuse to get off bus’
    https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/police-called-folkestones-napier-barracks-4669779

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    • Scroblene says:

      What a sad indictment of a famous, locally well-recognised group of buildings, where thousands of our brave soldiers spent their last night in England before they left to go and bring stability to so many of the shitehole countries in the world, and usually die in the process.

      I wonder if the keys are still around, so we can shut the bloody gates there for good.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Gorka Show live
    you can wind the feed back

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  14. Up2snuff says:

    Fed, anyone running ‘a book’ on when China Joe will be impeached?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2 – ha – think the bookies are as ‘woke’ as the rest of the swamp – which surprises me some nce their only motivation should be money –

      – but i suppose they are run by cheating kidults

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    • Dobyns says:

      Up2, as long as the Dems have control of the House there’s no impeachment gonna happen. Impeachment Resolutions must originate in the House

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Satire : people are tweeting this warning

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Much of TalkRadio haven’t yet fallen
    JHB has and probably Cristo and Ian Collin

    but on LBC Maajid Nawaz is a lone voice

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  17. StewGreen says:

    The Trump Team tweeted a link to there forthcoming LIVE press conference
    Twitter marked it
    “This claim about election fraud is disputed”

    FFS it was live, that is judging Trump’s words before he has even spoken

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  18. vlad says:

    Britons, Wake up!

    Trump voters are the same patriots as Brexit voters, and for four years the BBC has done all it can to disparage them and delegitimize their votes, just it did to disparage you and delegitimize yours.

    And STILL you continue to pay the extortion tax??

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  19. Sluff says:

    Not directly BBC but does call rather a lot of their sycophantic reporting into question.

    ITV 10 pm news have a feature on the amount of covid cases caught in hospital.

    An astonishing figure of around 13% on average (20% in the highest areas) of covid hospital deaths arise from patients who caught the disease when in hospital for something else. It happened to a friend of ours.

    This is an utter scandal yet gets almost no traction.

    Not exactly supporting the ‘NHS heroes’ narrative is it?

    So, how about getting some of the hundreds of BBC journalists off their backsides and looking into this.

    No? Thought not.

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    • Van Helsing says:

      Sluff,

      I know of a chap who caught Covid-19 whilst in hospital after a stroke. The medical staff then told his wife that he would not be resuscitated, notwithstanding the fact that he had contracted it whilst in their care and, I would argue, on account of their negligence.

      I don’t know what the chap’s wife said but I know what I’d have said – and done – had it been someone close to me.

      Remarkably, he recovered. He’s still got a way to go in terms of rehabilitation but I think he’ll get there; he’s made of the right stuff.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        One of the many reasons I regard medics as just another job – try to fight them and ‘reprisals ‘ will be made – which can include killing you .
        Motivated by status and money …..

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        • Van Helsing says:

          Fed,

          When I was a student, I started having serious trouble in focusing on small print. This was accompanied by severe headaches.

          I was referred to an opthalmologist, who quite literally accused me of lying. In his opinion, I had invented the ailments I complained of.

          Through the university I was able to see another specialist a few months later. This chap knew his retina from his iris. He diagnosed the problem right away and arranged for me to be booked in for surgery.

          Long story short. The op was (mostly) successful but I contracted an eye infection when I returned to university, as a result of which I had to sit the next year out. [I later resumed my studies and graduated a couple of years after I should have.]

          Had the first specialist been competent instead of an ignorant fool then I’d have had my op in the summer break, thus allowing my eyes plenty of time to heal before returning to uni.

          I should have sued but my focus was on completing my degree and finding a training post.

          Still, at least the quack eye doctor didn’t put my life in jeopardy, unlike the medical staff who effed up a routine op when I was 13…

          NHS Heroes? Nah. They’re just like the rest of us – some are great, others not so much.

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      • Sluff says:

        Yeah, so where the hell are the negligence lawyers when the public really need them?

        Presumably all gone into hiding or too busy with their cross-channel boat ‘clients’.

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  20. StewGreen says:

    There is a real world
    .. but when you are watching a MSM news broadcast it’s little different from watching a movie channel
    which says “This drama is based on reality”

    You know when it says that the exciting story often has very little to do with what actually happened.
    And my how shocked you are when later you find out that the HUGE CONTEXTS they left out.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    One such falsehood is that “Fox news is 100% pro Trump”
    Nope never has been a lot of Fox News host have been anti-Trump

    So when this beeboid Bryant says Cavuto’s actions are surprising
    he’s talking rubbish

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    • Dobyns says:

      Stew. FauxNews hasn’t been the same since Rupert turned control over t9 the woke kids

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    • StewGreen says:

      Another one from the bubble does the same

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    • Guest Who says:

      Pure #tellitoftenenough

      They always try and go Boom! or OMG! using other media trading on historical reputations that no longer exist.

      Like when they ‘forget’ the Daily Mail is now headed by a Remain nut job.

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    • theisland says:

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      • Guest Who says:

        Meh.

        Katty called it on behalf of the nation days ago.

        Then put her feet up.

        Also airhead.

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  22. Darcy3 says:

    SG, that is why I show videos of musicians it is one of “their” tactics to show we are all at odds and I can show from years and years ago this is not true please let me demonstrate

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  23. StewGreen says:

    BBC reaches for the smelling salts cos Northern Irish peer
    clumsily refers to Harris as “the Indian one”

    He said he was thinking of the way Biden called himself the Irish one, so as a reflex he called Harris “the Indian one”
    He then deleted it

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  24. pugnazious says:

    BBC trying to malign and smear Parler users as ‘Right wing’ [nudge nudge…ya know what they mean] people living in an echo chamber….

    Parler ‘free speech’ app tops charts in wake of Trump defeat
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54873800

    It tells us they are only on Parler because they’re blocked from Twitter because they spread misinformation….

    ‘It follows a clampdown on the spread of election misinformation by Twitter and Facebook in recent days.’

    It is in fact Twitter that is the echo chamber…an echo chamber that censors and censures, constantly shutting down people’s accounts without warning or opportunity to argue your case…and the reasons for doing so are highly political…criticise Islam…you’re out….criticise Christine Blasey Ford’s ‘case’ and you’re out….criticise Nazanine Zagahni Ratcliffe and her work with the BBC trying to undermine the Iranian regime and you’re out…same with vaccines, or 5G or covid19 or it seems any complaint about the efficacy of the election…and you’re out….etc etc etc.

    Curious how the BBC never reports on the stream of cases where Google or Twitter shut down right-wing voices…you might think that a broadcaster which constantly tells us how it is a rigorous and vigilant defender of democracy, free speech and the ‘free press’ would be showing some outrage at the left-wing choke hold on debate and discussion…but no.

    Then again the BBC does exactly the same thing and if it can’t shut them down itself it smears them by calling them racists or far-right.

    The BBC is no longer fit for purpose.

    #DefundtheBBC

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  25. TrickCyclist says:

    From the centre of the Earth, Dicktor Van Doomcock takes aim at the BBC. . . actually, there’s nothing really new in this video but at least he’s spreading the word about the Beeb in the U.S. He has 214k subscribers, 45k views of this video in the last four hours.
    The opening part of the video is about an actor from TV series The Mandalorian, Pedro Pascal, who posted a meme on Twitter about “Losers in 1865/1945/2020” with images of Confederate & Nazi flags and a MAGA hat.
    (Video length 11:28)

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  26. StewGreen says:

    Steve Bannon is gung ho and walks through the steps
    “Votes that are not certified do not count”
    Direct link to 20 mins in to the video

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  27. Darcy3 says:

    Wheres the popcorn

    Head of DOJ election crimes unit RESIGNS in protest after Bill Barr authorized federal prosecutors across US to pursue ‘substantial allegations’ of voter fraud during presidential election despite little evidence – as AG tears up rule book

    William Barr sent a memo to allow federal prosecutors to investigate vote fraud
    The attorney general authorized investigation of ‘substantial allegations’
    It raises the specter of the Justice Department getting involved in the case
    Within hours the head of the election crimes branch resigned
    Barr met with Mitch McConnell, Senate majority leader, on Monday
    Shortly after the pair met McConnell defended Trump on the floor of the Senate
    The president has vowed to fight the expected electoral defeat in the courts

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    • Fedup2 says:

      If biden wins the court cases – the dems willbw looking for a war to ‘unite the country ‘ –

      Something with good TV – clear goodies and baddies – not too many american coffins …

      If it goes well – biden gets tje credit

      If it goes badly he steps down …

      Win cheat win – there is no evidence …

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  28. StewGreen says:

    Tucker shines

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    • Darcy3 says:

      Wow, but, keep away from grassy knolls and book repositories in future…..

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      • Fedup2 says:

        The secret service did it by accident ….

        Problem is that the democrats will find republican fraud too..

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Yes tucker needs to look both ways if he is brave enough to cross the road – or they’ll give him COVID

        A long painful 23 minutes thanks —-

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Thanks Stew

      Excellent listen. Fair and balanced. Wonder if BBC will show it? Only when it rains in hell…

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  29. Fedup2 says:

    In the telegraph – a culture secretary write ;

    ‘When people around the world think of Britain, they think of the Royal family, and the Premier League. And they think of the BBC. From the moment its first radio transmitter crackled into life a century ago, our oldest broadcaster has been a steadfast national institution, a champion of British values across the globe. But 100 years on, it’s time to ask what we want from the BBC of the future.

    The pandemic has illustrated what the BBC does best. It has helped us educate our children, and been a trusted source of information on the virus. And it has provided a national gathering place for millions tuning in to hear government updates or watch the first live Premier League game on the BBC.

    But while Covid has brought out the best in the BBC, that hasn’t made it immune to some stark realities. The first is the utter transformation of the media landscape. The rise of Netflix, Amazon Prime and others has lobbed a grenade into the system – upending the way most of us consume our favourite shows.

    The second is the growing number of questions the BBC faces over some of its key commitments. Is the Beeb continuing to deliver value for money for licence-fee payers? Is it keeping the British public’s confidence when it comes to its impartiality, and does it truly represent the nation?

    By the latter, I mean the entire nation. Someone switching on their TV from their semi in Bradford should feel just as represented by the Beeb as a person watching in their Islington townhouse. Instead, a growing number of viewers feel harangued or ignored when they tune in – and not just by the news output, but by its drama and comedy too.

    So, as negotiations over the level of the next licence fee kick off, I have formally written to the BBC asking them for answers to six key questions. Those include: how will it make savings, including around talent pay levels? How will the next licence-fee level affect the vulnerable, the elderly, and those on the lowest incomes? And how will it use its global might to fly the flag for Britain?

    However, the BBC is just one piece of a bigger puzzle. The world has changed, and every broadcaster needs to change with it. So I’m taking a close look at the future of our entire public service broadcasting system. That includes ITV and Channels 4 and 5 – and S4C in Wales and STV in Scotland, both of which are important to those nations.

    Today I am pulling together a team of broadcasting and tech heavyweights to help us shape the future of public broadcasting. This 10-strong panel won’t just be tiptoeing around the edges. They have been tasked with asking really profound questions about the role these broadcasters have to play in the digital age – and indeed whether we need them at all. It is a crucial task, given how central public service broadcasters are to our entire creative ecosystem.

    Together, they employ more than 20,000 staff, and indirectly support the employment of tens of thousands more. They helped drive £3.3 billion in revenue last year, and they beam the best of Britain – our culture, our talent, our castles, churches and more – into homes around the world.

    We’ve got to get this right. Public service broadcasting has already lived, adapted and thrived through a hundred years of history. It’s time to start thinking about what it does next.’

    Ends ..

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Follow up telegraph article –

      Public service broadcasters such as the BBC and Channel 4 face “profound questions” about their role in the digital age, the Culture Secretary has said, as he begins fresh negotiations over the licence fee.

      Oliver Dowden will on Tuesday announce a new panel of experts to assess the future of public service broadcasting as he suggests there is a genuine debate over whether “we need them at all.”

      Writing for The Telegraph, Mr Dowden says that the panel of broadcasting, journalism and technology leaders will not be “tiptoeing around the edges” but rather “drilling right down into the current system and how it operates.”

      With the media landscape experiencing an “utter transformation” in recent years, he adds that the rise of Netflix and Amazon Prime has “lobbed a grenade into the system” and poses serious questions about the “role that all broadcasters have to play in the digital age.”

      While praising the BBC’s role during the coronavirus pandemic, Mr Dowden also says there are a “growing number of questions” about whether it is delivering value for money and upholding its reputation for impartiality.

      Amid growing allegations that the broadcaster is too narrowly targeted at metropolitan viewers, he argues that “a growing number of viewers feel harangued or ignored” in news, drama and comedy and it must change to ensure it reflects the views of the “entire nation.”

      However, signalling a wider reevaluation of public service broadcasting, Mr Dowden writes that the BBC is part of a “much bigger puzzle” that he will now take a “close look at.”

      “That includes ITV and Channels 4 and 5 – and S4C in Wales and STV in Scotland, who are particularly important to those nations,” he continues.

      “It’s time to ask really profound questions about the role that all of those broadcasters have to play in the digital age – and indeed whether we need them at all.

      “These bold questions require bold answers. So today I am pulling together a team of broadcasting and tech heavyweights to help us shape the future of public broadcasting in the UK. This 10-strong panel won’t just be tiptoeing around the edges.

      “They have been tasked with drilling right down into the current system and how it operates. Public service broadcasting has already lived, adapted and thrived through a hundred years of history. It’s time to start thinking about what it does next.”

      The 10-strong panel includes Tory peers Lord Grade, the former chief executive of Channel 4, Baroness Bertin, a former press secretary to David Cameron, Sir Robbie Gibb, the former director of communications to Theresa May and head of BBC Westminster, and Andrew Griffith MP, Boris Johnson’s former business tsar and chief operating officer of Sky Group PLC.

      Facebook’s Vice President for Europe Nicola Mendelsohn, and former senior executives of Sky, ITN and Endemol Shine are also on the panel.

      With traditional broadcasters facing a gradual decline in audiences as viewers defect to streaming services such as Netflix and Disney+, Ofcom last year recommended that the Government legislate to ensure that viewers can continue to find the BBC and other public service broadcasters across the array of new smart TVs, set-top boxes and streaming sticks.

      The watchdog is currently carrying out a review into how public service broadcasting should be delivered and funded, with a consultation expected to be published at the end of the year.

      While the Government has committed to updating the system, Whitehall sources suggested there was a legitimate debate about whether public service broadcasters should be given top slots on electronic programming guides or whether the process should be market-led.

      With a number of broadcasters suffering from declines in advertising revenue, scrapping their public services obligations – such as providing news and educational programmes – would allow them to focus on more profitable areas.

      It comes after Mr Dowden last month told MPs that the privatisation of Channel 4 would be on “the table”.

      The broadcaster has a remit in law to reach younger audiences. However, the amount of time 16 to 24-year-olds spend watching broadcast TV each day fell 49pc to 85 minutes between 2010 and 2018, according to Ofcom.

      Channel 4 is also unable to capitalise on the strong demand from Netflix and its rivals for box-sets, as the rules under which it was established by the Thatcher government prevent it owning the rights to most of its programmes.’

      Ends

      So it looks like the consultation on decriminalising ‘no licence ‘ was a waste of time and that the culture secretary is a ‘no change ‘ time server – red Tory…

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      • taffman says:

        \\ It comes after Mr Dowden last month told MPs that the privatisation of Channel 4 would be on “the table”.//
        Just privatise the them all .
        Simples.

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      • Doublethinker says:

        Waiting for this or any other UK government to force the BBC to become a subscription only service is pointless , they just won’t do it. Either because they are terrified of the BBC or are actually it’s supporters. So we must do it ourselves . If enough people stop paying the LF , say a couple of hundred thousand, what will the BBC be able to do about it? They can’t prosecute two hundred thousand people! Once a hundred thousand have done it many many more will follow but of course a lot will still watch the BBC crap for free. Within a year the BBC would be on its knees begging for a government hand out which surely not even this bunch of Tory wimps would agree to! The only alternative would be to stop those viewing for free by becoming a subscription service. Job done. Of course Labour would probably opt for funding by general taxation at some point in the future but we would have won a victory , even if only a short lived one, against the globalist liberal left.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Was that a labour ‘culture secretary ‘or a labour one ?

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  30. Darcy3 says:

    If a remit in law to reach younger audiences, then lets have a remit in law for old audiences not to have to pay for something not for them

    I do not expect to have to finance my local Mothercare store

    and all they have to do is bring back 24 7 Watch with Mother

    job done in my view

    Lara Kuntberg can then tweet to her little stony heart’s content about the latest Pogles Wood, Bagpuss and Trumpton episodes

    But she will probably still demand clarity and complain about the Pogles Wood witch and stereotyping etc etc

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  31. Darcy3 says:

    And, believe it or not, they recieved complaints about said witch giving children nightmares

    (The Pogles Wood one not the Lara K one, that was a separate complaint from me)

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Darcy – in future – if you post such things – please put a warning up – includes violence from the start – torture – bad language – child abuse and neglect – not suitable for young children or idiots -thanks 😎

      By the way – the witch is the BBC – pogle and wife are licence payers ….

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      • Darcy3 says:

        I was considering Muffin the Mule but did not want to risk getting firebombed by the animal rights mob

        and Camberwick Green is hideously white, not a XXXX corner shop in sight selling knocked off methanol vodka and readers wives mags to 12 year olds, plastered in ads how to transfer child benefit funds to Pakistan / Nigeria

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  32. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning Emole

    ***

    The women changing the face of US politics

    Much of the focus of the US election has been the battle for the presidency between two white men. But the nationwide ballot also saw Kamala Harris set to become the first woman vice president and a record number of women voted into Congress – the part of the US government that writes and passes laws. Republican women have made particular progress this election after struggling to replicate the recent success of the Democrats. The 2020 election has also seen women of colour solidify presence in the two chambers.

    Read full analysis >

    Lucy Rodgers
    BBC Visual Journalism team

    ***

    Presumably Lucy is introduced as being a nice shade of pink, as BS is walnut, in production meetings in Frankie Howerd.

    Quite what ‘visual journalism’ is I am unsure, but it seems there is a team looking at the telly, Pantone charts in hand.

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    • Darcy3 says:

      That will be third world war once a month then,

      I do not watch the new female Doctor Who on principle, but I bet the Daleks switch their batteries off and keep quiet towards the end of the month

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    • tarien says:

      Too many problems that will confuse most with too many women in positions of Power-and especially so in the United States. Afterall that nation has grown through the integration of immigrants from everywhere in the world, its ensuing difficulties now and in the future there will be many, but not served necessarily well by over indulgence of feminism-women are different from men-Vivre la difference’- their minds are directed in ways that rarely dove tail with the male species-they were not meant to-nevertheless at present Female and coloured is the voice at the time. Expect the ladies will think I’m speaking rubbish, OK that’s as it will be.

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  33. taffman says:

    “ Brexit: Government’s bill suffers heavy House of Lords defeat”.
    Who voted them into office? Abolish the House of Lords. They are anti British and pro EU. They always have been since we democratically voted to leave .

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  34. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    David Bossie, the adviser overseeing Donald Trump’s challenges to his election defeat has been infected with Covid-19, sources say.

    ***

    It seems that the bbc is exempted from providing evidence based claims.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Guest..
      The old “sources say”…..Why hasn’t Boris come down hard on BBC for leaking his documents last week? They didn’t need to publicise them?

      I will be writing to my MP about decriminalising the BBC licence and what is happening

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  35. Guest Who says:

    BBc News

    Russia’s Vladimir Putin has said he will wait for official results, and others have been slow to respond.

    ***

    B… but… the media called it!

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    • Darcy3 says:

      China and Russia, Israel thanked Trump and nothing from Saudi Arabia

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      • Darcy3 says:

        Update,
        Saudi Arabia busy in a seedy Mayfair nightclub with some escorts sniffing white powder, whilst signing death warrants for women comitting adultry

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  36. Guest Who says:

    ‘Seems to have’

    Enough evidence for Lurch to persist with all the Dems had before.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      There is no evidence …..

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    • Doobster78 says:

      And Anthony there “seems to” be

      10,000’s of dead people voted for Biden
      125% voter turnout in Dem controlled states
      Poll watchers stopped from having access to count
      Poll workers coming out on Facebook admitting fraud
      Thousands of Trump votes found in bins
      Trucks of Biden votes appearing in the middle of the night after the counts are stopped inexpicably

      But hey, keep banging the anti Trump and no evidence line.

      Funny how “seems to ” is good enough when its against Trump !!!

      Scum outfit

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      • G says:

        Doobster,
        Its not just the anti-Trump aspect, people who are not comfortable with investigating potential large scale fraud, are people who wish to see any semblance of ‘democracy’ destroyed. What then is the option? Only one I see is totalitarianism: the Nirvana for commies.

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  37. Guest Who says:

    When the public fails to live up to media expectations.

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    • Guest Who says:

      She is not having a good week.

      There are other categories… military… but if this bubble head can’t grasp why it is open to abuse here just to justify her TDS there, she’s lost it.

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  38. Guest Who says:

    Covered here earlier.

    https://order-order.com/2020/11/09/americans-dont-remember-the-fifth-of-november/?

    Ps: Guido, if they are ‘respected’, it is only by the likes of BBC American BS, who are paid a lot just to RT them as ‘sources…. who say’.

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    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      A bit like somebody tweeting a picture of Liverpool fans celebrating winning the Champions League and claiming they were out to support him, isn’t it. The name of that somebody escapes me, perhaps you could remind me. Seems like something a loser would do.

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  39. AsISeeIt says:

    Big pharma Pfizer are gifted headline adverts by most of our national newspapers this morning. But what protection for our precious NHS, we wonder as it is opened up to the mercy of this US-based multinational drugs giant? – Oh, so we don’t fret over that stuff anymore?

    There’s frontpage product placement in the Mirror: ‘Our little bottle of hope’ as also in the Express: ‘Great day for humanity and science , say experts’, whilst the ‘i’ takes care to picture a non-branded generic little bottle of magic covid cure on their frontpage: ‘Vaccine discovery: the world celebrates’

    The Daily Star is positively orgasmic: ‘Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Viagra firm’s covid jab joy’ – referencing another of the company’s products. ‘The little blue pill people give us something else to shout about’

    Looking out over a practically deserted high street with closed down shops and the odd fearful-looking masked figure shuffling about I can’t seem to get that post-apocalyptic Will Smith movie out of my head. I Am Legend – that was the one. Now what set off the crisis for humanity in that zombified fantasy thriller? Help me out wikipedia… “a virus, which was originally created to cure cancer, has wiped out most of mankind” – nasty.

    I remember how that film started now. Emma Thompson played the British medical scientist being interviewed on US TV about her world-saving discovery. IMBD provides the quote from the TV interviewer: “The world of medicine has seen its share of miracle cures, from the polio vaccine to heart transplants. But all past achievements may pale in comparison to the work of Dr. Alice Krippin. Thank you so much for joining us this morning.”

    What could go wrong? Cut to wild animals roaming the long-deserted streets of an abandoned New York city. Or, something like that.

    I do admire the use of the name Krippin. We’ll return to infamous British killers later. Although Krippin was infact American.

    The freebie Metro says: ‘A shot in the arm to beat covid’ – or a shot in the dark?

    The Telegraph of course joins the press pack with: ‘A great day for humanity’ but does temper its exaltation with: ‘How to keep a lid on the excitment?’

    Seems we need to invoke that tired old cliche “ironically enough” here. Because the Telegraph front page also carries a little report: ‘Multivitamim benefits may be psychological’

    They do say it’s an ill wind that blows no good. The Daily Star has news of Peter Sutcliffe apparently suffering with covid: ‘Ripper is very ill’

    The FT expresses relief that global crony capitalism is apparently back in the driving seat: ‘Leaderless global populist movement must look beyond Trumpism’

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    • Bogtrotter says:

      A dose of irony with your vaccine?

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  40. Darcy3 says:

    The swamp was never drained then, and back with a vengeance in week one

    things can only get better sang Blair, the noses are in the troughs already

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    • Darcy3 says:

      That Blair, he had that strange astrologist playing keyboard as well .the one with the spooky smile who I would probably report if I saw him anywhere near a school

      says it all really

      I prefer Russel Grant myself, or Mystic Meg

      stick to the piano Dr Brian Cox, I am a bloody Taurus and still not won the lottery

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      • tarien says:

        Said it once and will say it again, T. Blair is a traitor to the United Kingdom, he should have been locked up, or never have been allowed to remain in this nation. The Middle East amongst the dirt of corruption and its evil, is where he should be. I was nearly sick when I saw him along with another traitor Major, attend the Sunday service at the Cenotaph.

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  41. Laughing at Lefties says:

    If you’re not already, make sure to regularly check Citizen Free Press and The Gateway Pundit. Not only are they absolutely shredding this coup attempt in the US and proving that the liberal media’s claims of Biden having already sewn this up are all a smokescreen, but the comments from the latter especially show a huge amount of positivity and optimism that this is going to eventually go their way. I’m inclined to agree, given the sheer amount of evidence now available that the Democrats fabricated this.

    Also check out Newsmax at some point if you want a true conservative-leaning but factual and accurate media outlet. They’re actually reporting on the fraud and along with OAN are rising massively due to the exodus of Fox viewers.

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  42. Square-Eyed says:

    RealClearPolitics now shows Biden leading by 259 Electoral College votes to 214. Who’s going to tell the President-Elect?

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  43. Darcy3 says:

    What I am really waiting for now is the next pronouncement from America about demands for democracy in some far flung region like… Hong Kong for example

    I will be watching closely just to see if they can keep a straight face or any sniggers from the aides standing by

    whoever supplies the Dumpsters in Pennsylvania are probably already inundated with orders from Mugabe and his mates around Africa

    I also wish I was the one who invented that magic, disappearing laptop, Dragons Den here I come

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  44. AsISeeIt says:

    I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade hereabouts but whatever the electoral malfeasance may have been, I’m afraid we do have a fait accompli. JFK is now widely believed to have stolen the 1960 Presidential election – or his father paid for it for him. All we can do is to know our enemy and learn from this experience. Don’t get fooled again – as The Who would have said.

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    • JohnC says:

      I would say that the most important thing I have learned from brexit and Trump is what devious, ethically-barren hypocrites the Left really are. Nothing can put that genie back in the bottle.
      They have been so consumed with their own hate and spite that they abandoned the veneer of moral superiority they try to project.
      ‘Love Thy Neighbour’ got it spot on. Eddie was a hard-left militant with a ‘stop racialism’ sticker in his car window – but turned out to be the biggest racist of anyone when it affected him personally.

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      • Darcy3 says:

        The problem is they prey on the young who often are in that frame of mind before they realise economic reality, I recall a couple of weeks ago seeing a socialist party meeting agenda posted on a Cambridge town centre fence

        it was all fight cuts, more money this, that and the other, 10 points and of course fight racism, in one of the most cosmopolitan cites

        One apposite comment from The despised Thatcher:

        “The state has no source of money, other than the money people earn themselves. If the state wishes to spend more it can only do so by borrowing your savings, or by taxing you more. And it’s no good thinking that someone else will pay. That someone else is you.”

        “There is no such thing as public money. There is only taxpayers’ money.”

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The Kennedy family was founded on the corruption of joe Kennedy – an insider dealer put in charge of the FEC after bribing FDR – some say – this is disputed – there is no evidence ……deleted comment … account suspended pending review…

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  45. Darcy3 says:

    They also wrote a song called Boris the Spider,

    just saying

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  46. StewGreen says:

    R4 now “Jonathan Freedland compares this year’s bitter and disputed US presidential election with the election of 1800 which divided a nation and ended with two very angry losers.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000p6w0

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    • StewGreen says:

      The news before that prog ended with
      ” The US Attorney General has authorised federal prosecutors to investigate possible irregularities in the election
      *Donald Trump has continued to make INSTANTIATED claims of fraud
      someone has resigned in protest.”

      * word President not used.

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      • Darcy3 says:

        But the black actress who married a Prince and made him resign is still treated as royalty ?

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      • StewGreen says:

        typo UNSUBSTANTIATED

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      • StewGreen says:

        Presenter’s tweet

        – The righty guest declared herself a never-Trumper
        (Kate Andrews from Republicans Abroad)

        – The lefty made the claim Putin is in alliance with Trump

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    • StewGreen says:

      The least impartial presenter ever ?
      Look at Freedland’s tweets promoting his own extremely anti-Trump article post election.

      Freedland also played a clip from the Hamilton prog cos he loves it.

      He didn’t mention the Bush vs Gore controversy
      as if that was inconvenient.

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  47. Darcy3 says:

    The thinking in China at the moment (insider knowledge, not Govt but public opinion) is 50% chance Trump will prevail

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