491 Responses to Start the Week Thread 9 November 2020

  1. theleftwilleatitself says:

    Well done for cashing out early Fedup!
    I put my bet on late August so it doesn’t feel like a real loss 😉🤞🏻

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    • Laughing at Lefties says:

      I placed a bet on Friday at 16/1. I could have cashed out for a very modest return the next day, but I’m holding firm. The amount of fraud is so absolutely undeniable to any reasoned, informed person that there’s simply no way Biden is going to ‘win’ the presidency. You can cheat certain people out of certain races, but so blatantly gaming at least six swing states (probably more) and hoping your media allies can simply say there’s nothing irregular is not a sustainable tactic, especially when said media allies have already been repeatedly discredited including with their fake polls during the election campaign.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Catchup links to last posts on previous thread
      page 4 started 7pm Sunday
      page 3 started 10am Sunday

      On Sunday morning a couple of people posted on The US Election Special Thread page 5

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  2. Doobster78 says:

    I actually love this woman !!!

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    • vlad says:

      Hear hear! Watching her demolish the fake press, with a smile, day after day, was one of the great pleasures of the Trump administration. Here she is choosing the next lamb for slaughter.

      kayleigh-mcenany.jpg

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  3. Fedup2 says:

    The Left – I think I’d put £40 on a Trump win and got £60? Back temporarily before I blow it on the gg s … which are positively ‘straight ‘ compared to politics …..

    I said that I think the only way elections can be seen to be fair is for the military to run them … but no one is going to change anything – after all – after Bush /Gore and those ‘hanging chads?’ Did much improve? And if the counters are democrats how will the outcome be ‘true ?’and if the MSM is biased it won’t be looking at corruption either…

    Perhaps those thousands of trump supporters who went to rallies should have spend their time fixing the local results in the way democrats appear to have done ….

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  4. Doobster78 says:

    Anyone who tweets about postal vote fraud, even President Trump, have this marker attached to the bottom of the tweet by Twitter !!!!!

    Laughable. Absolutely laughable.

    Twitter has been a disgrace with its censorship of Hunter Biden news etc and now about the fraud.

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    • Seppers says:

      Why are they so keen on promoting voting by mail? Even if its secure they can’t be sure the voter wasn’t pressured by anyone to vote in a certain way. The booth at the polling station provides a completely secure place to vote exactly as the voter sees fit.
      That is my concern with voting by post.

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  5. vlad says:

    Below is an interesting if slightly long discussion on toxic wokeism, critical race theory and cultural Marxism, and the ravages they’re causing in Western societies.

    They’re the sort of stuff Trump was starting to push back against but that the new gang will unleash on the world with renewed gusto – especially the repulsive Kamala, and the toxic AOC and ‘the Squad’.

    As Douglas Murray has repeatedly warned, these rotten ideologies are not just arcane academic matters, but they are quickly infecting HR departments of large companies, advertising, the media, the political and legal classes, Hollywood and showbiz.

    God help us.

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  6. Doobster78 says:

    Keep fighting the fight mr President

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  7. StewGreen says:

    Old news which adds some context to the claims Priti Patel i bad for calling out immigration lawyers

    Such immigration lawyers have been fined and truck off etc.
    On Oct 17th The Times did an article about problematic immigration lawyers.
    That big firm law firm Duncan Lewis is not entirely innocent.
    One of their lawyers was struck off for defrauding an asylum seeker.
    She got him to pay £2,400 into her personal account.
    When in fact he would have probably got legal aid
    She was struck off in January although the Times only reported it now. .
    Furthermore it reported that staff and Duncan Lewis travelled to Calais and touted for business from migrants, whose costs are almost always paid for by the taxpayer.

    Another law firm Malik and Malik run by brothers Nazeer & Saleem earned thousands from bogus asylum claims involving bringing tactical judicial reviews designed to prevent claimants being removed from the UK.
    Many of these cases had no merit at all, so were unlikely to succeed, judges complained. So there was a fine of £20K.
    Yet the brothers are still practicing … The Times leader called for such lawyers to be struck off

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  8. StewGreen says:

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  9. StewGreen says:

    BTW Who is digging in about the US election result ?
    Dems refusing to consider any evidence

    How did they behave on Bush vs Gore ?
    #HangingChads

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  10. Fedup2 says:

    Not the BBC – but the royals .. 2 princes – one accused of fornicating with underage girls – the other ‘loved up ‘ in LA – absent from the Cenotaph today … pretty shabby when considered ….
    Perhaps commemoration was better served at local ceremonies where the health and safety mafia were absent ….

    Ive been present at many ceremonies and on Armistice Day and i think pareing down the National Commemoration was just too much… the BBC couldnt even get to go woke … but dimbleby got his fee….

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  11. StewGreen says:

    Early on election day the NYT put up a tweet saying that it was their policy that the media are the ones who have the job of DECLARING the WINNER , they got ratioed and deleted it on the same day.
    (Blue tick tweets confirm that)

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  12. JamesArthur says:

    I caught 1 minute of BBC news at 10…already they are spouting Biden doesn’t like Brexit and the UK US trade deal looks dead….they can’t f***ing stop can they!
    Boris..get your bal*s out of your handbag and stop the BBC undermining the UK and your Govt

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    • theisland says:

      Blair will have had a quiet word with him at the Cenotaph.

      Writing in the Guardian, Labour leader says strategy that won back votes in the US can work in UK.

      Time to use that 80 seat majority to stop postal voting, eh Boris?

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      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t there a report into the voting situation a couple of years ago, which came out with a few good recommendations. I seem to remember this came out a quickly disappeared. I think it mentioned scrapping postal voting. I am sure it mentioned that all the literature should be in English and not in “Community languages” as English is THE community language. It was a bold thing to say. I think this may have been the Casey Report.
        I’ve no idea what eventuated from this report. But it would be interesting to know if any political party (major or minor) or pressure group picked this up and ran with it.
        To my eye this was a golden opportunity to get the issue of fraudulent postal voting before the public and changed.
        Using an official report to lobby for change is a solid political tactic. Just crying about things when they repeatedly happen is a option also but a fairly useless one at the moment.

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  13. JimS says:

    Radio 4 changes its schedule to run an interview by David Frost of Joe Biden.

    Hardly topical, but at least Joe was lucid then.

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  14. Nibor says:

    What`s happening about that public consultation about the BBC and the telly tax that closed in April ?
    Are the Remainers shutting it down like Gina Millers court case or are the Conservatives really serious ?

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  15. Van Helsing says:

    Has there been any recent word from Halifax?

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  16. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-5484152
    2020-11-06

    UK energy plant to use liquid air

    By Roger Harrabin
    BBC environment analyst

    [
    Michael Faraday was my Physics teacher.
    So I am not qualified to comment on the viability of this “scheme”.
    This source alerted me to the BBC report.
    https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=168975
    Where the regulars are sceptical of the claims made.

    So I turned to the Wikipedia article “Cryogenic energy storage”.
    Which has a section entitled “Advantages”.
    Which does not have a section entitled “Disadvantages”!

    Which has a section entitled “Efficiency”.
    Which currently states :-
    “In isolation the process is only 25% efficient, but this is increased to around 50% when used with a low-grade cold store, such as a large gravel bed, to capture the cold generated by evaporating the cryogen.
    The cold is re-used during the next refrigeration cycle.[3]”

    I looked up SI basic units, no.
    I looked up SI derived units, no.
    “Cold” is absent.
    But this does matter.
    Because everywhere, in the Wikipedia free energy tree, universal model, there will be a helpful “cold store”, however defined, nearby.
    Which explains why Wikipedia, in the UK, turns first to the Siamese BBC-Guardian source for reliable, neutral, propaganda.

    The Wikipedia article final section is “Electricity storage pilots”
    “The efficiency is less than 15% because of low efficiency hardware components used, but the engineers are targeting an efficiency of about 60 percent for the next generation of CES based on operation experiences of this system.”

    Trials showed 15% efficiency, but the Lefties getting their noses in the trough will produce 4X this!
    ]

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      The BBC wont touch the Ideal Gas Law because its used by Climate deniers. So I imagine it means using electric power generated by windmills to compress the air at night. Then let it fart out in front of a windmill during the day.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Close, Richard, close: right about surplus wind energy during the night but then the (pardon Harrabin’s tautology) non-liquid air will be allowed to warm in-plant, possibly just by natural warming during daytime, and used to drive mini-turbines much like a coal or gas fired Power Station.

        Which sort of begs the question: why create all that CO2 😉 causing all that Global Warming and Climate Change 😉 😉 in building that plant for something that is only around 15% efficient if LCS is correct as I suspect he/she is? There are all sorts of situations where things could go wrong, too, and further reduce that paltry efficiency figure.
        – Extreme cold weather
        – Big storm causing windfarms to feather turbine blades
        – Lack of wind
        – Other problems such as windfarm breakdowns and maintenance, etc..

        It is quite ridiculous: they are building the back-end of a conventional power station!

        The Greens and XR would be better off accepting the inevitable fact, the planet isn’t cooking, winters & summers and the seasons in between come around with amazing regularity and other fuelled power stations (nuclear/gas/coal) are not only desirable but essential to balance the National Grid.

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  17. pugnazious says:

    An enormous, ruinous fraud being perpetrated upon us as we are plunged into a catastrophic lockdown justified by fake figures…and the BBC is where exactly?

    Their ‘Reality Check’ is obsessed with fact checking a foreign election and Trump’s tweets but a calamitous fraud by our own government? Pretty much ignored….look at the Reality Check page…it has a couple of ‘update’ quick notes on the subject that note there have been issues about some figures….but no actual reality check on the figures used to justify the lockdown…..however you can see them target the testing figures because they can criticise the Tory government without criticising the lockdown which they love.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/reality_check

    Some might think it dd that the BBC isn’t going in hard on such an important and consequential matter…others might think it ominous and sinister as our economy is destroyed, jobs and lives ruined, the future blighted, our freedoms being rapidly eroded and removed never to return.

    Where is the serious BBC discussion and challenge to the lockdown madness? They flood the airwaves with stories of lives being destroyed, businesses going under, sports and the arts under threat, mental health and domestic violence issues, education blighted and endless other problems…and yet….and yet….when do you ever hear them ask if the problem is the lockdown and maybe, just maybe there might be a better solution?

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      The more you learn about the science, the more insane it gets. The idea that masks are to protect the wearer does not fit the Liberal Fascist narrative. It would look silly if a caring government cared more for you than you do yourself by fining people £1,000 for not protecting themselves with a mask. So the narrative is that people wearing masks have obviously died of the Covid disease and been resurrected as Zombies walking about shops wearing masks to protect those who have not died of the Covid disease. But in fact it gets even more insane than that. It was found that Children are the best spreaders of the Covid disease. But due to caring Liberal Fascism, Children do not have to wear masks in Shops. Also, most of those who die of the Covid disease have previous breathing difficulties. But due to caring Liberal Fascism, they are exempt from wearing masks in shops. So therefore the people forced to wear masks in shops are the least likely people to spread the Covid disease, and the least likely people to die of the Covid disease. And those who are exempt from wearing masks in shops are the most likely people to spread the Covid disease, and the most likely people to die of the Covid disease.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Biden is going to make people wear masks and very likely impose a lockdown. At this point JHB – a Biden supporter – will flip

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  18. Richard Pinder says:

    It looks like due to not having any investigative Journalists, the BBC has done a six month investigation into US election fraud, in six minutes. They say they found no evidence of fraud due to those nice Democrats being all above board and very respectable people who voted for that nice Mr Biden. The BBC says that all that so called evidence censored by the BBC is because it was obviously misinformation provided by the Russians, Israeli Jews and those vulgar white people who voted for Mr Trump. According to the snobs at the BBC, Whistleblowers are obviously deplorable right-wing Christian perverts with deviant debased beliefs, and not the decent posh white left-wing people who voted for Mr (Antifa/Black Lives Matter) Biden. The BBC also condescendingly snorts at people who voted for Mr Trump, implying that they should not be allowed to vote, anyway. They certainty wont appear on the BBC. In fact, all future BBC Radio and BBC TV programs with Americans, will only feature Biden voters, mostly Black Americans talking about fighting for the right to sit next to deplorable White people on a Bus.

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  19. ScottishCalvin says:

    The one positive thing to come out of the election is looking forward to 4 years of the BBC explaining why none of Joe Bidens laws can get passed because he failed to win the senate. A decade ago he was on top of his game enough to maybe work across the aisle but this is going to be 4 years of Kamala Harris throwing a strop because none of the ‘bad white men’ will do as she says. “Stack the supreme court” ?! More like the republicans draw up a shortlist and he has literally no other options (thanks to his old boss Obama and Harry Reid changing the rules)
    Cartoon + Thoughts:

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Scottish ‘jumping and stretching !’…. normally at handover of the White House the two presidents are ‘smiles for the camera ‘…on this one I think mr Trump might punch the demented ones’ lights out ……nice work as usual on the art

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      • Darcy3 says:

        I will never forget the Clinton women who’s face could have soured milk at the inauguration

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  20. Scroblene says:

    I reckon that there will be more fun to watch over the next few weeks, with President Trump getting to grips with his allegations, because the Biden lot will have to answer some, if not all the questions, especially if the FBI get in on the act!

    When Biden steps down, and Kamilla Norris takes over, she’ll have quite a lot on her plate to keep the Supreme Court ‘happy’, too.

    All in all, it’ll be concerning for people like Billary and Barry and Biden Jr., with their names continually tossed into the pot for good measure.

    Still plenty of time for popcorn, this will run and run, so sit back and enjoy the show!

    I may even write the screenplay – ‘Washington behind closed claws’…

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  21. Darcy3 says:

    Breaking news !!

    Antifa leftist marxist gobshites become overnight fans of “democratic” elections !!

    ‘You led marches to have Brexit ANNULLED!’ Labour fury as Thornberry praises US democracy
    EMILY THORNBERRY has been heavily criticised for claiming “every vote is equal” despite being a leading anti-Brexit campaigner who sought to void the democratic will of the British public.

    The Shadow Foreign Secretary has been criticised by her own party for stating “every vote is equal” when commenting on the US Presidential election result. Labour Leave, the party’s official Leave campaign, mocked Ms Thornberry for the comments – as she openly advocated against Brexit and frequently called for a second EU referendum.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1357706/labour-party-news-emily-thornberry-lbc-us-election-results-joe-biden-brexit

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    • Guest Who says:

      A woman in politics with a spine rather than a bag of opportunistic jello.

      Good.

      Expect more of Sebastian and his ‘analysis’ of why what makes Biden unhappy makes the FT and the BBC hopeful.

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  22. JohnC says:

    I see the media are now trying to pressure Trump to drop the legal challenges.

    And no riots.

    I am trying not to despise the Left and their shameless hypocrisy – but it’s not easy.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      I heard that on BBC radio…’pressure mounting for DT to leave quietly’
      Yes pressure from MSM and democrats and BBC!
      I love it that they don’t provide any evidence but just say it…
      Funny one rule for them eh!

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  23. Guest Who says:

    Another winner from the weekend intern repeating bot BBC N. America uses as a source of news.

    And this after it was already roundly mocked before.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Speaking of software glitches.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        I put a joke bet on – a pound – – that Carmela would be next president at 100/1 ….. oops …

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, China Joe better keep looking over his left or right shoulder in case the Grim Reaper really does want a US female President and has a little dose of the Wuhan Influenza ready to apply.

          The really big question is would Kamala be better or worse than China Joe? She is said to be quite conservative in some ways (a lot of her own Party were hostile to her selection as Veep) and she has to spend a lot of time sweet talking the House and Congress on behalf of the President-elect. If he gets the gig and gets to keep the gig.

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  24. Guest Who says:

    Hard to sympathise.

    Work for the bbc and that is what happens.

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    • Sepulchrave says:

      It seems that effectively the BBC may have made a significant contribution to the eventual passing of The People’s Princess and may now be facing prosecution and consequent damages that will be paid for by the licence payers.

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  25. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    With the fall of the colossus Trump it occurred to me that we who are broadly in the populist movement are seeing dark times. Back in 2014 when the swing away from mainstream became significant it looked as it was on a roll. Well now it would seem that the unstoppable rise, as Dr Turley calls it has been stopped dead. The globalist movement fought back. It may have a crooked message but it also has the increasing ability to censor which has played a huge part. We saw it coming but, in Europe at least we could not get united behind any party to make it successful.
    Geert Wilders, Marine Le Pen, where are they now. The AfD in Germany I understand are still going but they did well to remain in existence considering what they’re up against.
    Salvini was doing well with Lega but made an error in judgement and left a coalition thinking he would reap the benefit and failed.
    The Five Star movement in Italy (which Farage trumpeted ad nauseum) betrayed its followers and supports the left.
    Amazingly the only country which elected a populist leader was the USA.
    But there was no Populist party or similar movement! He personally hijacked the inept Republican Party.
    Now he’s gorn. Gorn, gorn, gorn.
    He leaves a huge hole. He should have done something about big tech’s domination while in office.
    I’ve come to believe Boris will do nothing about the BBC unless he is pushed. Really pushed. Can he not see what is going on in USA or is he thick? He is not as bad as May or Cameron but he’s not a hell of a lot better.

    Well this has become a bit of a ramble so I’ll stop here.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Yasser – I would not put that as a ramble . But any political party here should learn that it is possible to easily win an election .don’t bother campaigning – just fix the voting process.

      Make sure corrupt counting officials are in place – counters are your supporters and that industrial amounts of postal votes are produced ….
      Allegations of fraud can be dealt with by a woke plod and a fixed electoral commission and you have number 10 – quite cheaply …..

      Also – with the MSM in your corner no ‘investigative journalism ‘ will be done ….
      ……..I’m putting a £10 on Labour for the next election …..

      Perhaps the SNP will try this model out in 2021?

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      • G says:

        Unless DJT stays in the White House having sorted out the failed electoral system in the US, its sure that half the US voters will shun the ‘fixed’ electoral system next time round. What then? Why bother?

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    • G says:

      Yasser, have faith.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Yasser, good post.

      “Boris will do nothing about the BBC unless he is pushed. Really pushed. Can he not see what is going on in USA or is he thick?”

      Bojo, like President Trump is a media peep. OK, Bojo was on the print side and is a poor verbal communicator, but he is still a media peep. He is still of ‘that mindset’.

      As we all are these days, to an extent.

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  26. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    The president-elect’s team says his priorities are the coronavirus pandemic, the economy, racism and climate change.

    ***
    Expect a lot more via the bbc of what he says, via his ‘team’.

    At least Jon still doesn’t need to go to White House to make statements.

    Seems foreign affairs is not on the agenda.

    Jeremy Bowen and China will be happy.

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  27. Darcy3 says:

    Beneath contempt using this as a “photo opportunity”

    “personally recognise” ? no, photographers in tow, ready and pics sent to the media

    they disgust me, self promotion using this of all things

    Meghan and Harry ‘personally recognize’ Remembrance Day with a cemetery photoshoot after Prince was ‘deeply saddened’ when request to have wreath laid on his behalf at London’s Cenotaph was ‘refused’ by Buckingham Palace

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8927185/Meghan-Harry-personally-recognise-Remembrance-Day-LA.html

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Darcy – let’s face it – this character dishonoured his family and the organisations he supported for the sake of shagging an actress … he just deserves to become a tool used to sell newspapers … nothing more ….. I still wonder if they DNAd him

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      • Darcy3 says:

        You mean the one that looks like James Hewitt ?

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Ha indeed – I’m no fan of the firm because it is pretty thick and useless . But it’s good for the morale of some people and is a useful distraction from more important things .

          When Phillip dies I wonder if the American branch will be allowed back ? See – I’m distracted too .

          More seriously – the royal british legion says it’s finances are screwed by reduction in poppy collection . With any big charity I wonder how much money goes into ‘admin’ and how much makes it to the people who need it . ?…..

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          • Darcy3 says:

            1971 David Bowie, Oh You Pretty Things:

            Oh, you pretty things (oh, you pretty things)
            Don’t you know you’re driving your
            Mamas and papas insane?
            Oh, you pretty things (oh, you pretty things)
            Don’t you know you’re driving your
            Mamas and papas insane?
            Let me make it plain
            Gotta make way for the Homo Superior
            Look out at your children
            See their faces in golden rays
            Don’t kid yourself, they belong to you
            They’re the start of the coming race
            The earth is a bitch
            We’ve finished our news
            Homo Sapiens have outgrown their use

            All the strangers came today
            And it looks as though they’re here to stay

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            • Darcy3 says:

              Alway think of that when I see St Greta of Thungberg

              If that one did not arrive in a flying saucer with a bunch of greys in tow, then I’m a monkies uncle

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Darcy, the ‘photographer in tow’ was most peoples first thought I should imagine. Just the two of them pictured- both carefully coiffured – stage managed to an inch, and I read today that he wanted to be ‘represented’ at the Cenotaph yesterday, to which ‘senior courtiers’ told him no way jose.

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  28. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    Steyn talking sense again.

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  29. Guest Who says:

    Probably not on QT any time soon, despite initial credentials.

    https://davidaslindsay.blogspot.com/2020/11/little-evidence.html?

    “The proper Left is having none of this. We despised the Clinton Administration. We thought barely, if at all, better of the Obama Administration. And we are going to have no time for a Biden Administration that will at best be halfway between the two. Moreover, check the shifting official vocabulary about the dodgy ballots. The BBC, for example, has now reached “little evidence”. In a very short time, things have come a very long way from “baseless”. We know about the people who stand accused here. We know that they do these things, because mostly they do them to us.”

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  30. Guest Who says:

    eUBC Moaning Emole.

    ***
    BBC NEWS DAILY

    By Victoria King

    Biden gets to work

    ***
    So does the BBc

    ***

    Brexit’s back

    British and EU officials will resume talks in London later on a post-Brexit trade deal. Both sides say there are still significant differences on competition issues and fishing quotas. Boris Johnson has insisted an agreement is “there to be done”, but the UK will leave the single market and customs union without one at the end of next month if necessary – an outcome the PM refers to as an “Australia-style deal”. Find out what that means. And see why fishing is such a thorny issue.

    ***
    Amazing how meddling in things the bbc meddles in is a-ok.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Given the opportunistic toe rags here already out the woodwork, Milipede, Khan…. this becomes a priority.

      https://countrysquire.co.uk/2020/11/09/uk-needs-voter-id-now/

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      • Darcy3 says:

        How many bleeding Mohammeds will there be at any future elections ? try sorting that out

        photo IDs with veil in place?

        etc etc

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        • Fedup2 says:

          There will be plenty of photo IDs looking very similar – but the third world breeding machines will use postal voting as the chosen method of fraud….

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        • BRISSLES says:

          If there were Smith or Jones being listed by the thousands, you may depend there would be one hell of an investigation !!!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest
      Remainers will try to use the American election as another reason to delay final exit from the year transition …. with the likes of social media now openly censoring stuff it doesn’t like – as opposed to the campaigns to silence certain targets – eg TR ..

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  31. king crimson says:

    Having had quite a sizeable wager on DT, I was feeling quite smug in the early hours of Wednesday morning when he had shortened to 1/3. After my second mug of tea he had drifted to 5/4…
    Sour grapes maybe but I’m taking this bbbc stuff more personally than usual – even though I’m licence free.
    David Bowie penned a song in the early seventies called Saviour Machine….quite prescient in a way.

    President Joe once had a dream
    The world held his hand,gave their pledge,
    So he told them his scheme for a saviour machine.
    They called it the Prayer..it’s answer was Law..

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    • Laughing at Lefties says:

      I put a decent bet on him on Friday at 16/1, the next day it was down to 10/1 then they closed for new bets. I’m still very confident.

      https://rumble.com/vazewj-audio-only-diamond-and-silk-online-11-8-2020 – the BBC will never give these two any coverage, nor other prominent black or female conservatives (or indeed ANY true conservatives), because it completely blows up the BBCs narratives that Trump is a fruitcake and his base are racist whites.

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  32. Fedup2 says:

    Laughing – but what or the states if they land up with 2 presidents ? Even with a declaration by the Supreme Court there won’t be resolution …very difficult to think through / game out …..
    …. I suppose the republicans will just walk away from Mr Trump ( with secret assurances from Biden ) and isolate him because they know it will be back to ‘conventional’ politics ……

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  33. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Truth speaks truth to power … or not

    Before the 8.29 a.m. Sport segment with Rob Sport, the Bee Lady wonders out loud whether a Biden Presidency will affect Brexit at all. Michel Barnier of the EU is in London for talks with the UK’s negotiators. Instead of interviewing him or a spokesman or an independent commentator, Martha interviews BBC Europe Correspondent or Editor, Katya Adler.

    Bias? What bias?

    No possible chance of bias. What could be wrong with that? BBC interviewing BBC. All above board. Nothing to worry about. Much.

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  34. AsISeeIt says:

    The Guardian this Monday morning takes their obvious political inclination to support the US Democrats to the point of outright obsession: ‘Free 16-page Joe Biden souvenir supplement inside’ – I envisage even the man himself dozing off by page 9. One suspects the liver spotted old geezer already has the odd supplement or two in his medicine cabinet. There’s a notion that the pressures of high office will tend to turn a young man’s hair grey – I guess Biden is already well qualified in that respect. Trump 2024 anyone?

    What are politicians for anyway? They tell us these days they are just following the science, be it on covid or climate change, so why don’t we simply cut out the middle men and have the likes of Whitty and Vallance run the show with the odd intervention from Attenborough and Thunberg?

    First it was the bat soup and the pangolins (whatever they are?) now it’s the mink: ‘Quarantine ordered over “mink virus” fears’ (Telegraph)

    At least the Daily Star on their masthead are still: ‘Proud to love animals’

    The Danes are hitting back in the Times, Helena Christensen, 51, insists: ‘I’ll wear what I like’

    The Guardian ventures out from their basement Joe Biden shrine for the predictable: ‘Revealed Covid plans threaten global climate’

    ‘We are still around and will have to keep pushing’ says our Greta.

    You know Climate Crisis is code for Global Government, right?

    The Telegraph for example would rather some other country run this country: ‘Johnson to push ahead with Brexit law despite Biden’s warning’

    Both the Express and Mirror today carry features on coping with the Menopause – perhaps our anti-Brexit press should take some advice on dealing with the Brexit “change of life”? – GET OVER IT!

    To bread and circuses. But don’t expect to actually attend your local Colosseum anytime soon. This is all televised virtual content. Cheer up Manchester United fans, your team may be 14th in the table but: ‘Rashford scores again on school meals. Striker forces U-turn’ (the ‘i’)

    ‘Suicide calls soar during lockdown’ (Telegraph) is there a spike around Old Trafford we wonder? Don’t blame me for the dark humour, I’ve been against lockdowns and warning of their adverse effects on health since the summer.

    One tends to agree with the Telegraph: ‘Var farce. Why video referees are killing football’

    The Express has: ‘New-look I’m A Celebrity to lift the lockdown gloom’

    The Daily Star provides a note of reality to all this showbiz hype: ‘I’m skint… get me in there. I’m a celeb actor surviving on loans’

    The Mirror has a moan on behalf of NHS workers who seem not to have it in their career plan that they would have to deal with sick people: ‘We are all burnt out. Unions say 1.3 million staff are exhausted and without a pay boost many will leave’ – ok, bugger off then, apparently we can easily replace you with a cheap new batch of third worlders.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit
      If they continue handling poorly Joe as they did in the campaign then he will become invisible until they kill him off …

      There is a new ‘joes gaffs ‘ industry just waiting ….

      …if you remember – the left laughed at Reagan – see what happens when Biden cheats his way in …

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit – one can’t even hide inside a footy match because of all the woke crap the commentators have to come out with to prevent the inevitable take over by dusky clueless girls …

      But I saw that the £15 a game thing is being dumped . I wouldn’t pay a penny ….. £15 ?

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      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        AISI, Mr Biden’s hair might be grey, who could tell? Whatever he’s wearing on his head wasn’t grown by him…

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54267454
        Trump and Biden pictured through the years

        .. or, perhaps he’s had some ‘work done’ as celebrities like Elton John (apparently) say.

        Not usually inclined to bitch about older men’s follicular endowments, or lack of (I’ll be there myself, soon enough), but there is a notable contrast between the ridiculing of Trump’s barnet, and the complete lack of interest in Biden’s… of course, there is no evidence of bias, none at all.

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  35. scribblingscribe says:

    Sky News was part of the press mob screaming abuse at Rudy Giuliani as he detailed fraud at the counting of the US presidential vote.

    Rudy mentioned how Republican pole watchers were prevented entering voting counts, even when they had court orders. At this point, a highly emotional Sky News reporter screamed at him, ‘where’s your proof’. When Rudy attempted to answer the Sky News reporter screamed his question louder and then louder, like a spoiled child in a tantrum.

    Oddly, Sky had a journalist going out live during the count in Michigan where we could see Republican vote watchers outside, banging on the doors to get in. Sky also showed, live, Democrats putting cardboard over the windows to prevent people seeing what was happening with the vote counting.

    I have now removed the Sky News app from all my devices and will not trouble the station with my viewing again. I urge everyone to do likewise.

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  36. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – well, you can, but without me listening …

    Rob Sport informs me at 8.31 a.m. that there will be ‘A Week of Focus’ on womens’ football this week on the TOADY programme. Thanks … but, no thanks. Not for me. OFF-switch activated.

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  37. Van Helsing says:

    In other news, the Mail has apparently printed a photo showing the ‘seriously ill’ Martin Bashir nipping out to pick up a takeaway and some wine last Friday.

    Meanwhile, the BBC claim to have seen a letter from Diana which showed that the forged documents played no part in her decision to agree to the Panorama interview. Said letter is, of course, nowhere to be found…

    Still, I’m sure the ‘best evidence’ rule doesn’t apply to them. Because, er, well, just because…

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Was this around the same that er, Jimmy Saville pulled the wool over BBC execs eyes ????

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    • Up2snuff says:

      VH, hope it was red wine. And he doesn’t drink too much of it. Said to be good for the heart, red wine – red grapes also just as good.

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  38. theisland says:

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  39. Fedup2 says:

    Van – priceless – pray for Martin 🧻

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  40. G says:

    “No evidence” is going to be the ‘in’ expression for weeks if not months. Even when DJT provides firm “evidence” of voter fraud at the least, the Worlds court: the MSM and our “Worlds Most Trusted”, will ignore it.

    I think that when DJT eventually secures his legitimate occupation of the WH for the next four years, in the knowledge of who supported him, Boris can expect some retribution on our behalf.

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  41. StewGreen says:

    13:45pm R4 New series unpicking the White Helmets
    for next 3 weeks
    found dead in a street in Istanbul in November 2019. Le Mesurier co-founded a Syrian civil defence force called the White Helmets who filmed themselves pulling survivors and bodies from the rubble of bombed out buildings. They, along with Le Mesurier, found themselves at the very centre of a global race to control the narrative of the Syrian war.
    Was Le Mesurier a British spy?
    Who were the White Helmets really working for?
    Was the devastating, electrifying footage they were uploading to YouTube simply faked?
    How could any of the rest of us ever tell?

    The episode descriptions are blank
    but you can tell something from the titles they use.

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  42. andyjsnape says:

    First we had Saint Obama, now Saint Biden

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  43. andyjsnape says:

    The return of the White House dogs…
    With Joe Biden having won the election, it’s official – after four years pooch-free, there will be dogs in the White House again.

    And not just one, but two. Biden’s two German Shepherds, Champ and Major, are getting ready to take their places as First Pooches in January.

    Champ is 12 and was by Biden’s side during his time as vice-president, while Major is a young rescue dog whom the Bidens adopted in 2018.

    Major will also be making history as the first dog rescued from an animal shelter in the White House.

    “Reports” the beeb

    I feel sick, imagine ever getting a “report” similar to this from the beeb regarding President Trump

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    • Laughing at Lefties says:

      Don’t give up hope, Biden’s won nothing yet. He’s not even the certified winner of any states. Every election gets checked over and it’s just more of the BBC and liberal media’s disinformation to suggest that they have the power to call an election, when in reality they’ve never had such authority. They want to make it look as if Biden’s won so that if (or hopefully when) Trump is successful they can claim he ‘stole’ the election, when of course it was the Democrats who stole it to begin with.

      The level of fraud in this election is so blatant and so provable that it simply won’t hold up to any scrutiny. It will either result directly in Trump’s victory or in a new election. Either way, expect more violent uprising. The left is playing with fire hoping that everyone gets burned, which is typical of their socialist sympathies of equal sharing of misery.

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  44. Laughing at Lefties says:

    Beautiful comment from ‘snakedoctor’ on a Youtube video that will likely get taken down, hence I’m reposting here without alterations.

    —–

    The ENTIRE country is being “Gaslighted” by the Main Stream Media. WHAT IS GASLIGHTING?

    A little background. The term refers to the “systematic psychological manipulation” of a victim by her husband in Patrick Hamilton’s 1938 stage play Gas Light, and the film adaptations released in 1940 and 1944. In the story, the husband attempts to convince his wife and others that she is insane by manipulating small elements of their environment and insisting that she is mistaken, remembering things incorrectly, or delusional when she points out these changes. The play’s title alludes to how the abusive husband slowly dims the gas lights in their home, while pretending nothing has changed, in an effort to make his wife doubt her own perceptions. The wife repeatedly asks her husband to confirm her perceptions about the dimming lights, but in defiance of reality, he keeps insisting that the lights are the same and instead it is she who is going insane.

    HOW ARE WE BEING GASLIGHTED??? We are living in a perpetual state of gaslighting. The reality that we are being “told” by the media is at complete odds with what we are “seeing” with our own two eyes. And when we question the “false reality” that we are being presented, or we claim that what we see is that actual reality, we are vilified as racist or bigots or just plain crazy. You’re not racist. You’re not crazy. You’re being gaslighted.

    New York State has twice as many deaths from Covid-19 than ANY other state, and New York has accounted for 1/5 of all Covid-19 deaths, but we are told, by the media, that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has handled the pandemic better than any other governor. But if we support policies of Governors whose states had only a fraction of the infections and deaths as New York, we’re called anti-science and want people to die. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? NO, you’re being gaslighted.

    We see mobs of people looting stores, smashing windows, setting cars on fire and burning down buildings, but we are told that these demonstrations are “peaceful protests.” We see the TRUTH, we call this destruction of our cities, and call them “riots,” we are called racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? NO, you’re being gaslighted.

    We see the major problem destroying many inner-cities is crime; murder, gang violence, drug dealing, drive-by shootings, armed robbery, but we are told by the media that it is not crime, but the police that are the problem in the inner-cities. We are told we must defund the police and remove law enforcement from crime-riddled cities to make them safer. Which is totally illogical! But if we advocate for more policing in cities overrun by crime, we are accused of being white supremacists and racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? NO, you’re being gaslighted.

    The United States of America accepts more immigrants than any other country in the world. The vast majority of the immigrants are “people of color”, and these immigrants are enjoying freedom and economic opportunity not available to them in their country of origin, but we are told that the United States is the most racist and oppressive country on the planet, and if we disagree, we are called racist and xenophobic. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? NO, you’re being gaslighted.

    Capitalist countries are the most prosperous countries in the world The standard of living is the highest in capitalist countries. We see more poor people move up the economic ladder to the middle and even the wealthy class through their effort and ability in capitalist countries than any other economic system in the world, but we are told capitalism is an oppressive system designed to keep people down. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? NO, you’re being gaslighted.

    Communist countries killed over well over 100 million people in the 20th century. Communist countries strip their citizens of basic human rights, dictate every aspect of their lives, treat their citizens like slaves, and drive their economies into the ground, but we are told that Communism is the fairest, most equitable, freest and most prosperous economic system in the world. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? NO, you’re being gaslighted.

    The most egregious example of gaslighting is the concept of “white fragility”. You spend your life trying to be a good person, trying to treat people fairly and with respect. You disavow racism and bigotry in all its forms. You judge people solely on the content of their character and not by the color of their skin. You DON’T discriminate based on race or ethnicity. But you are told you ARE a racist, NOT because of something you did or said, but solely because of the COLOR of YOUR skin. You know instinctively that charging someone with racism because of their skin color is itself racist. You know that you are not racist, so you defend yourself and your character, but you are told that your defense of yourself is proof of your racism. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? NO, you’re being gaslighted.

    Gaslighting has become one of the most pervasive and destructive tactics in American politics, in conjunction with the MSM. It is the exact opposite of what our political system was meant to be. It deals in lies and psychological coercion, and not the truth and intellectual discourse. If you ever ask yourself if you’re crazy, you are NOT. Crazy people aren’t sane enough to ask themselves if they’re crazy. So, trust yourself, believe what’s in your heart. Trust what YOUR EYES SEE over what you are told. NEVER listen to the people who tell you that you are crazy, because you are not, you’re being GASLIGHTED. Sophocles said: “What people BELIEVE prevails over the truth.” That’s what the media are trying to exploit.

    Don’t allow yourself to be GASLIGHTED.

    —–

    Here’s the video in question, which is also quite interesting but is also very long. It mentions the watermarks so even though this was ‘debunked’ it’s actually still very possibly true. The thing is though, the Dems cheated so much and so blatantly that it doesn’t actually need to have been a sting. Trump will win simply based on the law.

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    • G says:

      LaL,

      Many thanks for that, I was really wondering the history of that term. And, on that subject, here’s another one although I have to confess I’ve not heard it used in the current circumstances. I’m sure we will, sooner or later:

      “It ain’t over until the fat lady sings”.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_ain%27t_over_till_the_fat_lady_sings

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    • Van Helsing says:

      LaL,

      When considering anything from the MSM, it pays to remember this tiny snippet of dialogue from the film ‘JFK’:

      “We’re through the looking glass, people. White is black. And black is white.”

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  45. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    THE BBC KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING:
    Headline: “Take down ‘fact-check’ website, Sadiq Khan tells Tories: The Conservative Party should take down a website masquerading as fact-checking Transport for London’s (TfL) finances, Sadiq Khan has said. The London Mayor said the site … peddled fake news.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54831044

    VERSUS

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/reality_check

    The BBC is just one giant propaganda operation. It must be defunded and all its management and staff taken to court for the return of taxpayers’ money it has defrauded.

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    • Darcy3 says:

      The picture attached to your first link is proof positive that London had become a third world African / Asian state, (with probably more knife crime and electoral corruption though)

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  46. Guest Who says:

    Dignity BS and American BS are going to be lost once this is all over.

    Was she not the one whipping her plunged neckline out for paps, and he the one flooding gold flecked soap for potentate wives?

    Them in pole front row at WH pressers with Jim Acosta adoringly watching Max Joeroom on a monitor issuing automated puh-puh press releases will be funny.

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  47. Guest Who says:

    BBC N-n-news…

    President-elect Joe Biden has said he wants to unify the US.

    What would his supporters say to those who backed Donald Trump?

    bbc.in/3paau0E

    ***

    Seems they edited out Kathy Griffin’s top of head and AOC’s empty version thought.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Meanwhile Lurch fires up the base.

      So the Dems now using the BBC as one degree of separation.

      Novel.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Freddy at risk of being ‘re-educated’ by Jack?

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      • Doobster78 says:

        Yep. Indeed. This whole fraud is “incendiary” its infuriating, but have you seen one riot ? Any vandalism ? Any City burnt down ???

        Nope. Not one. Like DT JNR said, 71 million pissed off republicans but not one riot !!!!!

        Other way you see plenty but Zurcher doesnt. Like the rest of the BBC.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          But with the boot on the other foot in 2016, if my memory is correct: there was a demo in Washington on the Friday (polling was on Thursday) that started peaceful and turned ugly, another in NY (may have been on the Saturday) where I think a journalist was attacked, then poor old Portland got it in the neck for the first time (they’ve been battered for four years!) when Democrats plus Antifa & Co went on a riot over the weekend following the result.

          Then I think there were more demos in various cities in the US, with or without violence, all the way to Inauguration Day and beyond.

          Just goes to show:
          – prayers for peace get answered
          – Republicans are usually the nice guys, the good guys. (Well, my friends are.)

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  48. Fedup2 says:

    Ok – it’s a 32 minute video- Alex neuman – – but worth it. And worth watching if only to think that such videos will be banned from public access very soon … the book won’t be banned – it will just be delisted by amazon and the search engines so that people don’t even know it exists ….
    The enemy must have the website on a target list ….

    And thanks – I’ve always had the trouble with the term ‘gaslighting’…..

    The scheme to engineer the polls to get people to accept / believe that Biden won was a clever piece of psych warfare …

    I think it’s a sort of ‘prepping the ground ‘ to win the battle type thing ….

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  49. Guest Who says:

    Yet to read it but… celebrating Guy Fawkes in the Hamptons?

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