Weekend Thread 31 October 2020

The evening of All Hallows. A full Blue Moon . A busy time for BBC bias – Labour Party Civil War again – islamic terrorists murdering again – and America deciding its president again – full Covid Project Fear again – and biased BBC staff publicly revolting over restrictions on expressing their bias on social media . Where do we start ?

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449 Responses to Weekend Thread 31 October 2020

  1. fakenewswatcher says:

    The R4 news at 8 managed to squeeze in a few anti-Trump pieces, and managed to bring on voices hoping that Trump would finally SOON be gone.
    Well, the Chinese Communist Party would be pleased. Islamic terrorists in Europe and President Erdogan would be pleased. And ultimately the ‘liberal’ fools at the bbc would be dealt with. (They think they are ‘liberal’ (freedom is key) but are actually socialists (‘equality’ is key). Unfortunately the rest of us will be down the tubes as well, by then. Beeb needs to be closed down urgently.
    Trump 2020!


  2. Roland Deschain says:

    OK, this is getting sinister now.

    I find it harder by the day to dismiss the conspiracy theories.


    • theisland says:

      Facebook has no way of knowing whether Dr Mike Yeadon is correct or not. Therefore it is purely political – because he is contradicting the global agenda.

      Similar to Clegg telling NF that the EU Army was a “dangerous fantasy” eh?

      I don’t pretend to understand any of the science but find Mike Yeadon convincing.


      • Sluff says:

        Weirdly there is no necessary contradiction between Yeadon’s very interesting non groupthink approach and the Sage doom-mongers.

        The logic of Yeadon is that things will not get as bad as others predict, using his alternative scenarios of immunity method and levels.

        But there can be little doubt about the current direction of travel and there is a fairly clear need to keep hospital admissions below the ITU capacity. Yeadon would have to produce a model showing how his approach would keep admissions below ITU capacity without a lockdown and/ or with what other transmission reduction measures.

        Boris is getting it in the neck for being too slow on lockdown. He needs to articulate better why he was trying to keep the economy open.

        I note wee krankie and laddo in Wales are expecting to get the latest Rishi handouts while demonstrating their independence. Hypocrites.


    • Jeff says:

      I got exactly the same thing.
      They’re actually censoring a bloke who knows more about this problem than both Whitty and Vallance combined.
      He’s had the temerity to put his head above the parapet. You can see how nervous he is throughout this interview.
      When a media company start censoring what scientists are trying to tell us…
      That in itself should tell us something.

      Next they’ll be coming for your books…


    • Dobyns says:

      The amount and severity of the pushback against Yeadon and the folks with the Great Barrington Declaration suggests that there’s real concern in the powers that be; that the real truth is close to getting out, thereby revealing that Emperor Soros and his minions have no clothes.


  3. Darcy3 says:

    No need to dismiss that I have never seen such a co ordinated attack, year upon year, on a democratically elected president in the history of America

    committees set up to find something to impeach him before any reason to impeach him

    note also, not just from America

    male ? white ? blonde ? immedietly branded a sexist racist ffs apart from the fact that he represents 70 – 80 % of America

    and his opponent in the last election a sex criminals wife who attacked his victims


    • Laughing at Lefty Trolls says:

      Which makes it all the more imperative that Trump wins again, which he will if the vote is fair. Almost no energy from the Biden campaign, he and Obama only had 60 spectators to a ‘rally’ in Michigan where Trump was getting tens of thousands each time. Most of the campaigning has been from Harris, who was eliminated from the candidacy early and thus doesn’t have much grassroots support, as shown by her own poor attendences. Trump also has the momentum now in states he didn’t win last time around such as Minnesota, Nevada and New Mexico. But of course, he only has to hold the states he won last time around, of which only Wisconsin looks in any danger without voter fraud (North Carolina has a nine-day extension for votes to be received, which is a worry) which wouldn’t be enough to cost him the election – plus, he’s still well-within the margin of error there as well and leads in terms of ‘leaning’ voters.

      The liberal media, which quite demonstrably includes the BBC and has done for decades, has done its best to demoralise Trump voters with the idea that Biden’s a certainty. This was the same tactic that failed in spectacular fashion four years ago, because if anything it’s only galvanising Trump supporters and making Democrats complacent. That’s not something you should be doing when your candidates are already unpopular, not to mention their ham-fisted attempts to suppress the NY Post’s Hunter Biden stories which had the Streisand effect and led to “how do I change my vote” trending online, indicating that many Democrat voters are thankfully still self-respecting and don’t want to support corruption. Add all of this together, and it’s looking extremely good for Trump. But we can’t relax.


  4. Darcy3 says:

    Hillary Clinton has a unique distinction: She has been exonerated twice after extensive federal investigations, the latest entirely unjustified and the result of a politicized Justice Department. President Trump of course was NOT exonerated in special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation, which found 10 or so categories of conduct that but for the present policy of Justice Department guidelines would serve as the basis for obstruction-of-justice charges. If Trump is defeated in November he can still be criminally charged the moment he leaves office.
    Follow the latest on Election 2020

    But back to Clinton. It may be hard to remember given then-FBI Director James B. Comey’s voluminous investigative report in the midst of the 2016 election, his testimony before Congress and his intrusion into the campaign 11 days before Election Day, but he found no basis she committed a crime. His subjective comments about poor judgment and negligence were entirely irrelevant (and frankly inappropriate for the FBI, which is charged with finding or not finding criminal conduct). The bottom line: Clinton committed no crimes.

    That was not enough for Trump. Based on no new evidence but rather on an undisguised personal vendetta, Trump opened up another investigation. The Post reported:

    John Huber, the U.S. attorney in Utah, was tapped in November 2017 by then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to look into concerns raised by President Trump and his allies in Congress that the FBI had not fully pursued cases of possible corruption at the Clinton Foundation and during Clinton’s time as secretary of state, when the U.S. government decided not to block the sale of a company called Uranium One.
    As a part of his review, Huber examined documents and conferred with federal law enforcement officials in Little Rock who were handling a meandering probe into the Clinton Foundation, people familiar with the matter said. Current and former officials said that Huber has largely finished and found nothing worth pursuing — though the assignment has not formally ended and no official notice has been sent to the Justice Department or to lawmakers, these people said.

    The coverage of her exoneration has been minimal. The number of stories such as Clinton cleared in witch-hunt probe or Right-wing accusations debunked has been underwhelming. The legitimate media does not seem interested in asking Trump or other Republicans to acknowledge that their accusations were baseless. You would think legitimate media outlets at the very least would self-reflect on their coverage that often treated long-ago disproved accusations as still unsettled.


  5. Darcy3 says:

    Bill Clinton Explains Monica Lewinsky Affair as ‘Managing My Anxieties’

    Mr. Clinton was asked about the scandal for the Hulu documentary series “Hillary.”



  6. The WestWyvern says:

    Radio 5 Dead news at 9am…

    Teachers unions demanding better protection as they will still be working during lockdown…

    Well done Beeb, we can see and hear where you are going with this one. Rest assured the jellyfish PM will soon U Turn. Again, for you.

    Last ”news” item is that no new internal cases of Covid in Australia, but some visitors are still bringing it into the Country, as a few in hotels are testing positive.

    And this from a country with some of the toughest entry requirements in the world. Are you watching Doris, Pritti?

    Don’t expect the population to lockdown and cower in fear whilst the UK borders remain open/porous…

    Oh, wait, silly me………..

    Ah, it’s ok football can continue, bloody whoppee.


  7. Sluff says:

    BBC Toady on Sunday bigging up a joint letter from faith leaders on the subject of child poverty, about which little has apparently been done in the last 20 years.

    The Bishop of Durham states that the problem is endemic.
    But he can’t work out why. Allow me to help.

    It’s the parents!

    When are they going to come clean and argue in favour of nationalising children?
    Which is the logical outcome of their policy.


  8. Darcy3 says:

    Well, we can be assured that one of our footballists has a conscience and maybe he can encourage some others in feeding children I understand they are quite experienced in “spit roasting” and other barbecue related activities

    rubbing meat etc

    and as for young white schoolgirls we can be sure the pakistani driven taxis will be always available

    rather surprising this thing about hungry children whilst ignoring raped children


  9. pugnazious says:

    Some might think it extraordinary that the BBC continually invites Nabila Ramdani into its studios, as they did this morning on ‘Sunday’, to voice her views given that she is an Islamist mouthpiece who excuses and downplays terrorism and blames the West for everything.

    But then again….her views are not extreme nor in any way controversial or misleading in he eyes of the BBC for her views are the BBC’s.

    Muslims are the real victims of Muslim terrorism…tick

    Muslim terrorists are not ‘Muslim’ [Despite using the exact same arguments as Ramdani…just using violence to press their case]…..tick

    Muslims are the new Jews and Macron and other critics of Islam are essentially Nazis [Don’t remember Jews in Germany launching savage attacks on other Germans nor trying to set up a parallel society, they integrated, were productive and constructive and prospered]….tick

    Western foreign policy is to blame….the poor Muslims [er…aren’t they not Muslims?] are radicalised by attacks on their religion, marginalisation and disenfranchisement…tick

    Liberal values and beliefs are offensive and go against their own values….tick

    The solution to radicalisation caused by that discrimination is to allow Muslims to practice ther religion freely and completely and to live ‘as Muslims’…so integrating by, erm, not integrating at all….tick

    So why live in a Western liberal country, why migrate to Western liberal countries, why act surprised and offended when asked to adhere to laws and values of the host country? And why does the BBC push their apartheid, separatist narrative giving it credibility, legs and publicity?


  10. pugnazious says:

    ‘Sunday’ had on a Jewish commentator to talk about Labour’s little problem….nothing too objectionable about the interview….er….until the end when the presenter suddenly launched into an attack out of nowhere demanding to know what the Jews were doing about anti-Black racism within their community. A bit of deflection and misdirection there, trying to almost justify or excuse and downplay anti-Semitism by saying the Jews are racists too. Why is the whole Jewish community responsible for a few bigots when the BBC puts it out there that the Muslim community is not responsible for Muslim terrorism….or er…terrorism by Muslims who of course aren’t ‘Muslim’? Maybe though ‘Islam’ is responsible and thus anyone who practices it and promotes it should be held responsible?

    OK….but when do you ever hear such a juxtaposition when Blacks or Muslims are being interviewed and telling us how terrible racism or Islamphobia is? When have you ever heard a BBC interviewer suddenly demand to know what the Black community as whole is doing about its anti-Semitism, its anti-Asian views, its anti-white narratives? Or demand the same of any Muslim in regard to anti-Semitism, homophobia, misogyny, anti-Westernism?


  11. Darcy3 says:

    I recall my old headmaster, in 1977, in a speech he gave, standing there with his gown, on the stage in front of all of us, he gave a warning, the threat for your life will not come from Russia, he said it will come from Pakistan

    no one understood at the time, we thought he was just mad, he could have got a part in lord of the rings,

    now we understand

    and it is too late


    • pugnazious says:

      Echoing Trotsky who prophetically declared…

      ‘ ”The road to Paris and London lies via the towns of Afghanistan, the Punjab and Bengal” – and the towns of China.’

      Note the Reds had a gameplan that may seem awfully familiar when you think of the Islamisation of Europe and the tactics being employed to achieve that now…

      ‘….a secret plan for the ”Bolshevization of China” by means of terror, guerrilla warfare and infiltration’


  12. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Now that the bbbc has got its lockdown I think we can expect them to start calling for the lockdown to end.

    They supported Burnham when he was against the government wanting him to go to tier 3, they supported the call for lockdown when the government were against it so now they will support an end to lockdown to be able to go against the government again.

    I suppose they are just waiting for more government decisions so that they can automatically go against whatever the government comes up with.


  13. Doobster78 says:

    Remember this tweet for future . She is spot on.


  14. Darcy3 says:

    Cobrnyn and his marxist mates remind me of Vicky Pollard “am I bovvered ? Im not bovvered ”

    no outpouring from bbbd they seem not bovvered

    it is not anti semitiism it is racism


  15. Guest Who says:

    Welcome to the world you have fomented, bbc.


    No wonder a few notable low lifes have already bailed. Sinking ships etc.


  16. Guest Who says:

    And the BBC ‘analysis’ behind an emotive, context bereft quote?


  17. Fedup2 says:

    Tricky one for the BBC to report on macrons ‘ suggestion that muslims who can hack freedom / equality in France should leave….
    ……….,,,,,,,, maybe we are gonna be getting a whole new brand of illegal coming across the frontier ….


  18. DYKEVISIONS says:

    Not BBC..

    Watched the live rugby International England v Italy yesterday on ITV.

    Just before the match there was a minutes silence for the victims of
    the various beheadings and massacres in France?

    Of course not… ‘Racism’

    Then we had the unedifying but hilarious sight of a few English players beginning to take the ‘Sir Ikea Knee’ during our National Anthem before sheepishly rising again after noticing no one else was doing it! (36m ITV Hub highlights)


  19. DYKEVISIONS says:

    Reading the Spectator regarding who to vote for next week, Lionel Shriver goes for

    ‘Make America boring again’ and will vote for Biden!

    D Trump stood up to China, kept America out of wars, blew away dangerous deals with Iran and cemented ties with Israel.

    Reinvigorated dying industries by renegotiating trade deals and cutting taxes and achieved energy independence.

    Lionel, that’s my kind of boring!!
    Good luck Mr Trump..


  20. pugnazious says:

    Odd thing…when WHO said ‘Test, test, test’ the BBC adopted it as their own mantra and repeatedly berated the government for not following the advice….however when we get this from WHO…

    ‘Dr David Nabarro, a WHO special envoy for Covid-19, has said, “We in the WHO do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus … we really do appeal to all world leaders: stop using lockdown as your primary control method.”‘

    …the BBC suddenly loses all interest in WHO advice. Odd thing eh?

    The government’s seemingly preferred solution to the virus is to lock us in our homes for evermore and feed us through the letterbox, making us submissive, compliant and obedient with endless droning propaganda via its state broadcaster mouthpiece….maybe the endgame will be not to feed us at all and that will completely solve the problem and also save the planet which is the ultimate end result that they desire.

    You may think I’m joking or being a bit extreme…and maybe I went a bit too far…however there are plenty of people, many in the BBC, who wish to see capitalism[ie your job] destroyed, consumerism [to you and me buying stuff to make our lives easier and more enjoyable] ended and human concerns and needs put aside in order to rewild the planet. They care not a jot about your jobs or lives…you, your jobs, your lifestyles are the ‘necessary murders’, the necessary sacrifices to ‘save the planet’….you must regress back to the stone age or some such, hunter gatherers, living off the land , in harmony with the land. Of course any such way of existence would not only be extremely harsh it would entail the mass starvation of billions and endless warfare, death and suffering….The billions on this planet right now cannot exist ‘off the land’…it has to be industrial farming or we starve.

    How about ‘The Great Reset’?….

    ‘As business leaders and policy makers around the world come to terms with the impact of the coronavirus pandemic, what should be their priorities? Do we aim to get back to where we were before, or should we take the opportunity to make society fairer, smarter and greener, and get humanity off the road to climate catastrophe – a ‘great reset’?….we need to look forward to a whole new reality.’

    Or the lovely Uncle Attenborough?….

    ‘Sir David Attenborough says the excesses of western countries should “be curbed” to restore the natural world and we’ll all be happier for it.

    The veteran broadcaster said that the standard of living in wealthy nations is going to have to take a pause.

    Nature would flourish once again he believes when “those that have a great deal, perhaps, have a little less”.’

    Of course he doesn’t actually mean ‘a little less’…he means a wholesale change in lifestyle and work….and why is it that only ‘Western countries’ that are the problem? Not Japan, Korea, Taiwan, India or the booming China or any other developing nation? It’s the old BBC narrative…the West is bad, too powerful, too rich and, rather than see other countries developed and catching up, must be crippled and sabotaged, that old socialist trick of ‘levelling down’ to make us all equal…equally poor and miserable….it is an agenda pushed by the Soviets/Russians and Chinese…it is the Marxist aim of reducing us and our societies to chaos in order for them to be able to take over….look what they did in the US after Trump was elected….along with their useful idiot allies, the Democrats and the lefty media, they managed to disrupt and corrupt the US political system and undermine stable government for 4 years ending with riots and almost civil war…instead of governing Trump had to firefight a continuous battle with the Dems and the media who were trying to undermine him in order to unseat him….the Russians could not have hoped for better outcome of a few lurid lies to a compliant ex-MI5 officer who ‘believed’ them and worked hard to spread them around because he didn’t like Trump…..ably assisted by the BBC which was more than happy to spread misinformation and fake news on an industrial scale.

    When the world’s most trusted and respected broadcaster gets into bed with Putin, Islamists and Greens the outcome can never be good. The BBC is one of the most dangerous organisations in the world.


  21. fakenewswatcher says:

    The war against Whites: South Africa Today reports 42 farm attacks and 7 farm murders 1-31 October. (During September there were 48 farm attacks and 5 murders. August and July each saw 9 farm murders and both months featured over 50 farm attacks)
    The governing ANC still enjoys the song: ‘Kill the boer, kill the farmer’, approved of also by bbc hero Nelson M. despite his work on ‘reconciliation’ once he attained power.
    You won’t find this in SA MSM or on the Bbc.
    SAT reports that this war is not only against farmers, but that ‘whites are being murdered in the most violent and atrocious ways imaginable, in their homes across South Africa’.
    SAT contains a complete breakdown of all its sources and tabulated details of all the incidents.
    This is a war you should not expect to see anything about on the bbc, itv channel4 etc.
    Any mention of ‘racism’? Perish the thought!


  22. BRISSLES says:

    Can I breathe a sigh of relief that Black History Month is now over ??? Pleeeeeeease. I’ve had my fill of hearing about ‘the first black…….’ whatever stories, because I for one have not been in the slightest bit interested, in fact, I dont know who was !


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      BRISSELS – I fear you are in for disappointment. When said month is over, you will find the agenda hasn’t gone away. Bbc et al, will make sure of it.
      So for you it’s a case of ‘I can’t breathe’ ( a sigh of relief).


    • Swelter says:

      Brace yourself Brissels we have a black Anne Boleyn coming over the horizon for your delectation and entertainment .


      • Van Helsing says:


        It seems that cultural appropriation only ever works one way…


      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Going along with the black Anne Boleyn theme.

        There should be no trouble finding someone to ‘play’ the part of the executioner when she and her head are parted.
        So many very capable applicants out there.


        • BRISSLES says:

          We’re now supposed to be made to feel guilty of unconscious racism, and that we should all be afflicted with colour blindness, but honestly ? I see white and I see black, thats IT ! ( I also see other colours but you get my meaning).

          So, when I KNOW that Anne Boleyn was white, because paintings of the time tell me so, then I’m not making apologies for not making myself believe that the black actress playing the character is ‘white’. My little brain does not compute that. As the song by Los Bravos back in 1966 said…. Black is Black.


  23. digg says:

    French Muslims, stigmatized by attacks, feel under pressure

    PARIS (AP) — The pressure rises with each gruesome attack. After three in five weeks, France’s Muslims are feeling squeezed. A spotlight of suspicion was trained on them again even before the latest acts of extremist violence, including two beheadings. President Emmanuel Macron has forged ahead with his effort to rid Islam in France of extremists, part of a project he labels “separatism,” a term that makes Muslims wince.


    The author of this lengthy piece of garbage obviously believes that the French people who lost their heads and lives were asking for it and got what they deserved.

    The article, complete with a large photo of a burning tricolour is from a US website that I believe its owned and operated by Microsoft.

    What the hell is wrong with these people, Have they become so infested with Muslim employees that they can no longer tell the truth for fear of being labelled racist?

    How many more must be butchered in silence?

    The medieval barbarians aren’t just attacking French people, they are attacking Christianity.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      digg- Microsoft and ‘big tech’ are in the forefront of the propaganda campaign against Christianity. This may not be their explicit objective, but it’s about where they stand politically.
      But it may be connected to a more general war against ‘Western Civilisation’; this -in large part- is a war against whites, who mainly represent this civilisation. So you can see the link to my earlier comment about the war against whites in SA. In France, as in SA, brutality is part of the picture. This is to instil fear. You don’t want to know some of the tortures inflicted on farmers in SA before they are finally murdered. Beheadings in churches? No problem.
      Of course, we must beware of generalising. But we must also beware of not wanting to confront certain issues. Of being scared into submission.
      This is why, despite many reservations about President Trump, he has my support. He knows where the enemy is, and he’s not afraid to call them out and harangue them.
      With the ‘Western’ MSM (which one would have hoped be supportive of ‘Western civilisation’) undermining Christianity, whites, and ‘Western’ values as a matter of course, it is now rare to find anyone taking a stand.
      There is a war in progress, partly for ‘hearts and minds’.


  24. Guest Who says:

    Huw in full cry.

    He could make a great ECU Director.


  25. pugnazious says:

    Amazing how the goalposts move…and so fast.

    One moment it’s a two week cricuit breaker or a mere four weeks of restrictions….the morning after it’s announced Starmer changes his tune and is saying it should be kept in place until the R number is reduced to a level he is satisfied with and Gove is admitting this is not going to be four weeks….as any fule would have guessed.

    Shame there seems to be no-one interested in genuinely holding the government to account and raising questions….the BBC play acts and goes through the motions, in a very reluctant and limited way of allowing some critics of lockdown on…but only to treat them with pretty near contempt whilst the lockdown lobbyists get a warm and uncritical welcome with the BBC presenters only question being ‘when will we get a national lockdown…or a more severe lockdown?’ The whole drift of the BBC narrative is supportive of a lockdown and highly criticial of those who oppose it and of the countries that don’t….such as Sweden and Japan who are doing very nicely at the moment thanks.


  26. fakenewswatcher says:

    Must admit I hadn’t come across the term “Lawfare” before. Apparently a combination of ‘law’ and ‘warfare’.
    Kamala Harris is an expert in this version of the ‘black arts’, according to ‘compact-online’. It analyses the would-be ‘shadow President’ and her ruthless pursuit of making a name for herself, which apparently began with the 14 billion dollar lawsuit against VW, with a big part of the ‘winnings’ going to her state.
    The article refers to her as ‘Kamarilla’, presumably a combination of her name and the term ‘guerilla’. I agree entirely with its assessment that, if ‘sleepy Joe’ makes it to the White House, the real power will lie with Kamala and the ‘radical Left’.
    Will Americans see the danger, I wonder? Or have the Antifa/BLM crowd already so infiltrated and undermined US institutions that they see only the chance to vote Trump out?
    ‘compact-online’ also had a little backgrounder on Antifa, and its roots in the Communist movement of Germany in the 1930s, where it was the ‘Antifaschistische Aktion’.
    I didn’t know all those details either. The more things change..?


  27. fakenewswatcher says:

    Beheadings in church, etc.
    It is not only the French who are worried. Peter Frank, German Public Prosecutor General, sees the main threat to Germany as being Islamist terrorism, ‘compact-online’ reports.
    I can think of another country in the region, where there should be cause for concern.
    However, coronavirus rules in the media.


  28. pugnazious says:

    Question…if lockdowns work how is it that deaths from flu and pneumonia didn’t go down at all as a result? Deaths from flu and pneumonia have been consistently, since January, 500 or so less than the 5 year average this year….and that didn’t change when lockdowns were introduced. Flu and pneumonia are killing more people now than C19…and C19 is killing at least 10 times fewer than it did in April…whilst cases rise enormously.

    Note also this…

    ‘ Because pneumonia may be a consequence of COVID-19, deaths where both were mentioned have been counted only in the COVID-19 category.’

    As have of course deaths due to car crashes, falling off ladders and falling head first into a mincing machine…all died ‘with’ covid 19….thus are ‘due to’ covid 19.


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      I read that they are having to use the flu deaths to get the covid numbers up.
      Or maybe flu really has dropped by 98%

      I think I read somewhere that the overall death numbers are either the same as average or maybe even below average.



    • G says:


      I was confronted by silence and strange expressions when I made the statement during my flu jab just recently, that surely, if people pursue the policy of masking up, washing hands and distancing, how would they catch the seasonal flu?


  29. taffman says:

    “Stratford explosion leaves one person dead”
    Another ‘flying gas main’ ?


  30. taffman says:

    Election results 2019: Boris Johnson returns to power with big majority
    Good ! All Brits thought, but we are still being forced to pay the telly tax while Al Beeb is more biased than ever.
    We have more cases of illegal invaders being escorted by the Border Farce form France despite our Home Secretary’s promises.
    Knife stabbings have gone up. We have a trashed economy , we have Global Extinction , BLM and Antifa being treated with kid gloves, we have Churchill’s statue being defaced along with all the other statues in the UK suffering the same damage. We have our history being re-written to airbrush out any positive aspects of our proud British Empire. We have the gradual erosion of freedom of speech.
    We even have Unconscious Bias courses being forced upon the nation with out any government discussion . We are still haggling for a trade deal with The EU despite BoJo saying the talks were over in mid October.
    A Tory Government ? I think not. What on earth has gone wrong with Boris and the Tory Party ?

    I look at The Brexit Party website and read “We Are Ready”.
    Well we are waiting and so is the nation for we are behind you ……………………………


    • taffman says:

      Next step for our PM ?
      Delay Brexit because of the pandemic ?
      I can feel it in my bones along with a Tory rebellion coming on Wednesday.
      Who is pulling BoJo’s strings , Al Beeb ?


    • G says:


      I suspect that when DJT is re elected in the US with a huge majority he will not squander the voters wishes, hopes and aspirations as Boris had done. He’s no Churchill and, frankly cannot in any way be objectively likened to the man.


    • taffman says:

      It looks like Nigel has responded to my appeal?
      We and the Nation of Great Britain are behind you !


  31. theisland says:

    Some common sense from Lily of St. Leonards


  32. Darcy3 says:

    There is a lack of common sense, we can all be called slaves

    jannis jopplin ball and chan


    • taffman says:

      “There is a lack of common sense, we can all be called slaves”
      We can now that Al Beeb has abolished ‘Rule Britannia’.
      Lets abolish Al Beeb instead.


  33. Fedup2 says:

    Bobby Charlton diagnosed with dementia at age of 83. Sadly I know too much about that horrible illness . But I guess he will get the best care available …..


  34. taffman says:

    From the sublime to the ridiculous, does anyone on this site pay the telly tax for this rubbish ? ……………………………
    “Charlie Hebdo trial suspended as suspect catches Covid-19”
    Have they not heard of video in France ?


  35. Fedup2 says:

    Some tick box coloured peer says stop and search makes it more difficult to recruit coloured plod . This is because colour yoof get caught with drugs or knives or other illegal stuff and get a record .
    This , then , banns them from being a plod .

    I love mad arguments like that because it shows just how diminished the Lords must be to have clowns making observations like that …..
    I guess snowflake whites like seeing coloured plod – it must give them a sort of warm feeling – until – of course the snowflake breaks the law ….


  36. Doobster78 says:

    Here we go ….BBC campaign incoming ……this will be relentless and tedious and if Boris caves in, he should just go !!!!


  37. taffman says:

    Anyone seen Blackwell ?


    • Laughing at Lefty Trolls says:

      He was the reason I created an account yesterday, just to bury him. Not seen him since, but then again it’s a Sunday afternoon. His type (e.g. maxicony) usually post at about 2.30am on a weekday.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Laughing …. yes … I did wonder …. a think some trolls need to have a bottle inside them -or certain pharma ..before they become keyboard warriors at – as you say – 0200….


  38. StewGreen says:

    Hyde Park : vast police snatch squad 100-200 officers snatch TR as he was been walked home by his own large protection team of 20 people surrounding him.
    In the 20 mins preceding he seems to be just standing talking to Hatun Tash.
    I can’t be sure cos the whole video is 3 hours long

    Video moment of snatch about 2h24mins

    “check 2hr.25min 30 sec…..
    Complete set up. Watch the police circle tommy Robinson then it seemed police stitched him up , infact you hear a guys voice say that out loud in all the carry on, perhaps even placed something on him”


    • Fedup2 says:

      Maybe they get to kill him in custody this time ….


      • StewGreen says:

        He was at the exit to the road and the police blocked him
        totally unnecessary scene, cos the police can arrest him any day they like without having to dangerously wade through crowds.
        Breach of Health and Safety rules themselves.


      • StewGreen says:

        Hyde Park : Someone has edited a highlights video
        beginning with when the police blocked the exit path.

        BTW there is an earlier tweet from documentary makers @VXimages
        “Police arrested a man who was confronting Tommy Robinson at the Speakers Corner in central London, on Sunday, Nov 1, 2020.
        VXPs later tweet complained that they themselves were being “targetted by police “


    • theisland says:


      • StewGreen says:

        In the short clips from Steve Laws etc.
        He says ” Why am I being arrested ? I haven’t done anything wrong”
        There is no answer

        Then TR screeches “you are breaking my arm, I am not resisting”
        30 seconds after that he does look like his feet are walking backwards as they are pushing him forwards
        looking like resisting, but could be him trying to avoid being moved forward whilst they are holding his arms back.


        • StewGreen says:

          Of course not everyone supporting TR was white
          there appeared to be some ethnic-Muslims etc.
          Danny Roscoe has in earlier videos complained about Police TSG leaving Muslims alone and going in hard against Lockdown Protesters etc.
          Live statement from him today


      • Doobster78 says:

        Very similar policing to the muslims protesting outside the French embassy in London last week.

        Good to see the law being applied consistently !!!!


        • Fedup2 says:

          Equality under law is out of fashion these days … some senior plod wants a scalp for the career/ pension and if they can kill TR that’s another plus for them … move along please … nothing to see … just checking your thinking ….. have you committed a hate crime ?


      • Oaknash says:

        The Stasi arrested Tommy because this totalitarian state that now rules over us does not tolerate any opposition and certainly not someone brave and charismatic that we could coalesce around.

        You only need to look at the woke chump we have as an “official” opposition leader and the equally woke chump that is PM all bleating pretty much the same deceitful bilge to realise that the political class/establishment will never allow any serious opposition to form in this country. Maybe through some sort of serious civil unrest but the willingness of so many people in this land to buy into mask compliance has shown the regime that we now seem to lack the spine to stand up to these globalist crazies that now hold power. So instead we have to listen a selection nonentities all spouting the same rubbish as if this is actually real debate when in fact all of our “parties” now sing from the same globalist hymn sheet

        They are now very close to achieving complete subjugation of the population. When this happens Tommy will be killed not directly by the establishment of course but probably by one of the new doctors or engineers that will be informed of where he is and on that day and in that location i expect the police will be a long time in coming.

        A brave Englishman and probably one of the last few left.

        And then the bastards will come for us.


        • G says:

          The senior tier of the police have a lot to answer for. Hopefully it will come swiftly. This lot need defunding.


  39. Fedup2 says:

    No – if Biden wins on Wednesday we will never hear the end of the trolls here – if Biden loses we won’t be hearing from them for a long time .
    It’s nice to hear a non cut and paste contrary view here once in a while – if only for the writer to be shown to be plain wrong …
    I think sometimes that it one of the reasons one doesn’t hear a detailed defence of the BBC – it is indefensible – and every day more and more people realise it .

    The saddest thing is that the ‘auntie ‘ image was / is so powerful that it is still held in some affection from the less attentive of people – including those overseas who see it frozen in 1940 ….


    • Doobster78 says:

      Little bit of money coming for Trump on oddschecker I see. There was a poll which was nice reading for his supporters.

      I still believe he will surprise and upset the MSM.

      Praying for it 😃


      • Laughing at Lefty Trolls says:

        If you look at the comments on most Breitbart articles, they’re not even questioning whether Trump will win but by what margin. I worry that they’re being overconfident, but at the same time they’re also hammering in how important it is to get out and vote – and, specificially, to vote in person. At the same time, there’s dozens of new troll accounts being created every hour posting one or two lines of gaslighting about how stupid Trump voters are for thinking they have a chance, which is a very poor attempt to suppress the vote by making it appear futile.

        This really shows the fundamental difference between libertarians and liberals. Libertarians, be they Republicans or Brexiteers or whatever, are confident of success because they’re on the ground fighting for it. They’re actually analysing what’s happening and working towards achieving their goal. Liberals, Democrats/Remainers/whatever, believe they have a default right to whatever their aim is and don’t have to accomplish anything, because big brother will provide it for them. However, in their efforts to talk down the right, they almost always show their need for validation as well as their lack of any actual arguments to support their position, making them appear desperate for approval. This is another symptom of their reliance on the state, and another reason to be extremely hopeful – and confident – that Trump is in fact going to win pretty comfortably.


      • Oaknash says:

        Lets hope so – if Trump wins then there is still some hope left.


  40. Guest Who says:

    I hope they have botoxed the rictus grin if things go pear shaped.


  41. Doobster78 says:

    Women’s football live on BBC 1 ….

    4 presenters, ALL women !!!!

    Why do quotas only matter the other way round ? Why do the BBC always ensure a woman is on the presenting panel when it’s men’s football and if there isn’t a woman on , there is outrage and calls of sexism and inequality !!!!!

    Just makes my blood boil !!!!

    Now a woman BAME presenting the news giving more fear about a longer lockdown.

    and according to the lefties, women and BAMES are under represented and don’t get the chance white / males get !!!!

    Just unbelievable !!!!


    • Sluff says:

      A staggering 31% more women than men (1.3 million versus 1.0 million) took higher education courses on 2016/17, the most recent year I could easily find.


      And what do we hear about that from the BBC?

      And here’s the real killer. After 2016 it looks like they stopped publishing the data in the headlines !!!!!!! One has to delve much deeper to find them. Clearly too embarrassing.

      Absolutely appalling.


    • Fedup2 says:

      You watched it ?

      What I can’t get is that the TV companies are charging 15 bucks to watch a soccer game ?


    • AsISeeIt says:

      “Women’s football live on BBC 1 ….”
      I notice the men’s game has fallen into line with women’s football in one significant respect – no crowds.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Asiseeit – very dry …..the BBC is really pushing girly footy . Are there any ‘lookers ‘? With a bit of luck Sky will buy the rights and consign it to a filler channel ….


  42. Sluff says:

    I wonder why the coronavirus infection rate is high and rising?

    ‘Bristol illegal rave attended by 700 people’.

    Thanks boys snd girls.
    Really looking forward to Thursday because of people like you.


  43. theisland says:


    Joe Biden is preparing to cast aside Donald Trump’s emphasis on the “special relationship” if he wins the US election, The Sunday Telegraph can disclose, as advisers to the presidential hopeful revealed that he plans to focus on rebuilding America’s relations with the European Union.

    Anthony Gardner, a former US ambassador to the EU who chairs Mr Biden’s working group on the bloc, suggested that the relationship between the UK and America under a Biden presidency would partly depend on the ties Britain decides to form with the EU.

    Mr Gardner, who is based in London and is being touted as Mr Biden’s possible choice for US ambassador to the UK, described Brexit as “the biggest own-goal that I’ve seen in my lifetime” and separately suggested that a Biden White House would be uninterested in “super ambitious trade deals”.

    Good job Biden isn’t going to win then.


  44. StewGreen says:

    New BBC anti-migrant activists story has caused a massive pile on by the radical left human Twitter Bot army
    1,000 quote tweets is unheard of so suggests a campaign
    they and the replies seem to have a simple premise
    ‘This is horrible you have given publicity to someone who wants migrant boat stopped
    This is a severe thought crime, HOW DARE YOU air him’

    The article clearly arises out of an Radio4 fly on the wall documentary from 3 weeks back where they followed this Wedding DJ doing his campaigning.

    General Owen Jones there


  45. StewGreen says:

    7pm News opens with “Labour say”

    item #3 shopkeepers are worried about losing November Christmas sales

    Seems there were about 20 illegal raves on Saturday 11 in London


  46. Fedup2 says:

    I thought I’d look at the BBC TV listings for the week . This Thursday they are putting out a documentary about someone called An Sang Su Chi ?
    If you remember she was a BBC love child – up there with Mandela the terrorist and Obama the failed president – until she started doing things the BBC don’t like .

    So powerful leading woman becomes tinpot dictator in one go …

    Just to let readers know – after a busy and painful weekend it’s time for the start the week thread – maybe a calm before a presidential storm ……


  47. fakenewswatcher says:

    Looking at the DT article on the US election, I see they have Biden leading in all 8 swing states.
    Might as well have bought the Guardian…


    • Fedup2 says:

      I suppose whatever variation on thr outcome of the US election -there will be trouble. If Mr Trump wins there will be trouble in the UK me thinks – since the BBC has stoked up the hate against Mr Trump and drawn the picture of a Biden win ……


  48. Northern Voter says:

    Whilst watching the highlights of the beeb’s news coverage on this site, I have noticed a preponderance of er’s during the broadcast material. Is this an intern putting them on the autocue, or can the people in front of the camera not read properly?