554 Responses to Midweek Thread 28 October 2020

  1. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Good family values #1

    I grew up as child through various peaks of the Cold War. In a metaphorical sense as well as a fictional sense, you could describe Snuffy as a distant relative of George Smiley.

    I smell a rat listening to the TOADY Programme this morning. It seems to be a Communist rat. We are being told that there is a new strain, more virulent strain, of Covid and it is being called Covid-20a. It has been identified among Spanish seasonal (code for migrant – careful BBC!) farm workers.

    Various Americans, including (you guessed!) a squeaky voiced American woman (where do the BBC find them?), have been trawled across the programme to convince us about the science including environmental aspects. Apparently, burning down an Amazonian rainforest and clearing it to grow food is causing this virus. Another thin story.

    Hmmmmnn. Having served an apprenticeship at George Smiley’s knee, I think that is all very thin story and different groups are trying to use the Pandemic for advantage. The Chinese have much more likely decided to go for broke and have deliberately released Covid-20 on the West and the rest of the world.

    Now, some science. Covid is a coronavirus and coronaviruses mutate, the most virulent and mutating of all being one of the family, the one that is known as the common cold.

    It is possible this new strain is a natural mutation but I find the story being trailed across the TOADY airwaves that it is all down to Spanish seasonal farm workers’ fault and that of British holiday makers a bit thin as cover stories go.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      I don’t know… if there was only some way we could end this nightmare? I mean, it’s a global problem, right, so maybe we need a global solution? Maybe some sort of, perhaps, world government? But it would need to be very focused, it couldn’t be left to the whims of voters, who might be suspectible to populist and nationalist sentiments. Perhaps some sort of benevolent dictatorship, but managed by technocrats and experts? And couldn’t Big Tech help out by ensuring that dissenting voices aren’t allowed to spread false news? It’s clear that the virus will mutate every year, so Big Pharma needs to be on its toes, producing new variants of the vaccine each year. Of course, they must be rewarded generously for their efforts. Only sensible strategy is mandatory vaccination for everyone – who could object to that? Constant surveillance may seem authoritarian but it really isn’t – we need to know where people are, what they are doing, who they are seeing. How else can be control the virus? Of course, there will be disruptions to the global economy, but we can mitigate against that by ensuring migrant labour can be freely moved across the world to wherever it is needed.

      (That’s enough of that. You’re giving the game away. – Editor)

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Ian:

        You are right. The world government would have to get rid of cash. It is dirty and harbours germs, nothing to do with getting rid of financial privacy.

        Perhaps central banks could start work on preparing to issue digital currency? What do you mean “they already are”?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Ian
        I’ve never been too fond of people having individual property rights . Since the UK state probably takes 60% of private income why bother with the other 40?

        After all – the State now pays people to stay at home – pays for the nourishment of children – and decides who gets treatment for Covid or not .

        Now that freedom of speech and assembly have been removed why not go a bit further and reward the ‘approved ‘ and just ‘remove ‘ the ‘unapproved ‘? It’s all for public safety so no one will object will they ? And if they do they can get the Lawrence Fox / David Starkey treatment as a warning ….

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    • G says:

      Up2, China.

      A very interesting and unusually long article on Gatestone just in:

      https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/16705/china-existential-threat

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      • Up2snuff says:

        G, thanks for that. I haven’t read it all carefully but skimmed it. The bit about counterfeit currency was interesting.

        I read a Lee Child book (was it, memory is hazy on author’s name) several years ago that was about the USA’s indebtedness to China and a plan to undermine the currency of the US.

        It’s quite a logical thing: China – due to typical Communist cock-ups (think Chernobyl), lets an experimental virus escape quite by accident. The leadership think ‘Oh well, that’s out. We’ve managed to clear up some of the mess here in Wuhan Province. Let’s see what happens elsewhere in the free world and other Communist countries. We might be able to use the information later.’

        The Chinese leadership has now seen what the West, especially Europe, the UK and the USA have had to do socially and economically in response to the Pandemic.

        The Chinese love gambling, it is an ethnic ‘thing’.

        They may have decided to go for broke and update the world with Covid-20 a more serious version of the virus formerly known as Covid-19. I think our PM, Vallance and Whitty knew about it in September, hence the panic, especially of Vallance and Whitty.

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  2. Guest Who says:

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  3. taffman says:

    “France church attacker arrived in Europe from Tunisia days ago“
    How many are arriving over here from across the Channel?

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  4. Guest Who says:

    “It’s all going great so far”.

    So, no kkk rallies for the BBC Hate Ed now?

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  5. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Good family values #2

    The Labour Party family, including the BBC, is in crisis. There was an attempt before 7 a.m. to come up with some excuses for the suspended Jeremy Corbyn. Nick Robinson interviewed James Schneider, former Press Officer for the Momentum, the radical Marxist movement within the Labour Party.

    There’s nothing like a family spat and Nick Robinson seemed to be really enjoying appearing to grill James Schneider. Now Mishal is running a tilt at Keir Starmer. When you start a lawyer talking it is not easy to stop them. Mishal, The Great Interrupter, succeeds – no contest.

    Der Starmer is now saying “I knew nothing at the time.”.

    Hhhmmnnnn.

    Seem to recall others telling me about some people saying that sort of thing about seventy-five years ago.

    Der Starmer doesn’t want a civil war in the Labour Party. Strange. He’s quite content to stir one up in the UK with calls for a total Lockdown in England.

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  6. Fedup2 says:

    From the Mailonline – a handy list for biased BBC droids to conceal their snowflake views of engaging with social media —

    Things NOT to do: Ten things staff should not do under the BBC’s new social media rules

    1. Do not be drawn into ill-tempered exchanges, or exchanges that will reflect badly on you, or the BBC

    2. Do not post when your judgement may be impaired

    3. Never use your BBC status to seek personal gain or pursue personal campaigns

    4. Do not reveal how you vote or express support for any political party

    5. Do not offer judgements beyond your specialism

    6. Do not support campaigns no matter how apparently worthy the cause

    7. Do not post anything that couldn’t be said on-air or on BBC platforms

    8. Do not break news on a personal account

    9. Do not link to anything you haven’t read fully

    10. Do not be seduced by the informality of tone and language on social media

    ……The piece also includes recent tweets from BBC employees objecting to these restrictions – perhaps they should go get a job in the real world ….

    ….one BBC droid interpreted this to not being able to wear a poppy ….perhaps they are not worthy ..?

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  7. Doobster78 says:

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  8. Fedup2 says:

    Propaganda industry now in full project fear mode to achieve a total lockdown over the end of 2020 – eg

    Hospitals will be full up by December 17?
    New strain of virus – covid 20
    It’s worse than March
    There will be shortages – turkeys – sprouts – stuffing – trimmings ….comedy

    So it is time for panic buying – stock up for Christmas now !
    ( as I’ve said before – the BBC has an absolute fixation with Christmas – the importance of which to the majority non Christians diminishes year on year as national identity is destroyed by ‘diversity ‘…)

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  9. Doobster78 says:

    The Head Of Diversity & Inclusion to the office please to explain how this happened , how it will not happen again , and just why we pay you over £100K per year !!!

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    • Guest Who says:

      Triage calls between June Sarpong and Jon Snow unenviable.

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    • Foscari says:

      Doobster-Yes, it looked like a repeat of last weekends Antiques
      Road Show.I think we should give the diversity dept at the BBC
      some slack.They have the job of keeping the collateral damage in
      Nice off the front pages.Also, that they keep up appearances
      with their daily default main picture on the internet.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Context : The viewer panel is only from Lincoln
      a city which is vastly white
      However of those 16 faces 2 are BAME
      So the panel is 13.5% BAME as per national demographic.

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  10. Guest Who says:

    So, alternating on Newsnight and QT with Mendoza into the foreseeable future then.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Have you started playing the’ lefty Labour game ‘yet

      All you have to do is guess which Labour MP is going to leave the party in solidarity with Comrade Corbyn – my money is on the deputy leader of the party -Angie “scum “ Rayner to be the first …..
      ………..or maybe no one will go .. not even Diane Abbot – cos it is goodbye peerage and freebies …..

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  11. AsISeeIt says:

    Call it a coincidence if you wish but it just so happens that the BBC’s headline to their on-line press line up (with the byline “Staff”) out of all our national newspaper titles most closely echoes the Guardian’s headline: ‘Labour in “crisis” as Jeremy Corbyn suspended’ (BBC); ‘Labour plunged into crisis after Corbyn suspended’ (Guardian)
    Other papers, outside of the BBC/Guardian nexus, tend to go with a “civil war” or “battle” theme: ‘Labour facing civil war after Corbyn suspended’ (the ‘i’); ‘Shaming of Corbyn sparks Labour civil war’ (Telegraph); ‘Battle for Labour’s soul as Corbyn is suspended’ (Times).
    The Mail takes the opportunity for a bit of a gloat, opportune as we approach Remembrance Sunday, reproducing that photo of our Jeremy laying a wreath at the grave of a terrorist: ‘RIP Corbyn’s legacy of hate. After this paper’s relentless exposés, report finds Corbyn’s vial cabal broke law over anti-Semitism…’
    The freebie Metro goes with a pun: ‘Corbinned’, whilst the Daily Mirror feels the urgent need to give Jeremy’s successor a boost: ‘Starmer’s zero tolerance’ – the phrase having various connotations depending from which angle you’re looking – which flexibility of meaning I guess is meat and drink for a lawyer and one who previously happily campaigned on Corbyn’s behalf, battling to make the Marxist anti-Semite our Prime Minister.
    In fact, I think the BBC/Guardian have it about right on this occasion going with “crisis”. Fitting, I’d say for a Corbynista party that habitually told us every day how everything was in crisis – NHS Crisis, Education Crisis, Employment Crisis, Housing Crisis…

    Well they are now.

    Let’s think about housing. The Times has a feature: ‘Hot property. What’s going on in the housing market’ – how about the current ballooning government debt, backed by unrestrained quantitative easing, is inflating asset prices?
    In a market already skewed by restricted supply, we’re on a small island we’d prefer not to be completely concreted over, matched with unrestricted demand, caused by population growth fuelled by unprecedented immigration levels.
    Now let’s look at the health crisis. The FT warns: ‘Scientists identify coronavirus variant spread across Europe by “risky” tourists’ – we won’t delve too far into the origins of the ‘Spanish farmworkers’ with whom this problem ‘originated’ since the FT small print is pretty small in our BBC reproduced front page. Suffice to say they don’t get the blame, it’s the Europeans, including British holidaymakers, who caught it from them who are apparently the problem having spread the infection.
    The ‘i’ flags up: ‘Emoji warning for BBC staff’- this cryptic motto in some way links with the Telegraph article: ‘BBC stars mock rules on use of social media’
    The Guardian can of course be relied upon to flounce about and throw a hissy fit on behalf of the lefties at the BBC and their right to posture and campaign on our licence fee: ‘Political bias? BBC staff may face Pride ban. New impartiality rules at corporation could stop journalists from going on LGBT marches’ – “may” and “could” – you’re not doing yourselves any favours here, you so-called journalists.
    The Guardian is all for social cohesion and is happy to see the English language butchered in the cause: ‘Macron in call for unity after church knife attack’ – you know something odd is going on when the over-educated arts students at the Guardian adopt an awkward tabloid-sounding contraction such as “church knife attack” – churches don’t tend to attack people with knives after all.
    The Telegraph acknowledges friction between Europe and the Islamic world: ‘Erdogan accused of incitement in France’.
    It is left to the Times to report without any pussyfooting around: ‘Migrant tried to behead victims in French attack. A Tunisian illegal immigrant who had arrived in France in the past few weeks…’ – well you know the rest.
    Not to leave things on a sour note; having said farewell to Jeremy Corbyn, we’ll give the last word to the Mirror and their showbiz obit: ‘Goodbye Bobby, and thanks for all the laughs’ – that’s Bobby Ball of comedy duo Cannon and Ball with an epitaph equally fit for our Jeremy.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit
      Considering that comrade Corbyn has spent his entire political career scheming for the socialist utopia – he must be ‘lovin’ the victim attention again .
      All his friends in the IRA , hezbolah, other Muslim terrorist groups as well as other commies must be rallying around to encourage him .

      The media communists must be split between the desire to be on the BBC and aligning with comrade Corbyn – or maybe the BBC will permit them to do both .

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  12. JamesArthur says:

    Did anyone hear the R4 piece last night on the the Plymouth court case where a resident has taken Council to court as they try to rename a square from a historic Briton ( John Hawkins) to a black footballer ( Jack Leslie). usual yawn – slave links…

    But what interested me was the BBC into – a local BBC reporter opened her piece with:
    ” I have lived here for 12 years and I am black and I have been racially abused here 3 times, so this resonates with me” WTF!!

    BBC – She is supposed to be reporting not prejudicing, we are not interested in her, but the story. And as for being racially abused (which we all agree is unacceptable) where is evidence and was it racial abuse or just abuse? We don’t know…the fact it may or may not have been in that square seems almost irrelevant…

    If we take BBC logic, anywhere somebody has been racially abused is now a suitable place to be renamed…

    When will the BBC and its staff realise they are not the story…it isn’t all about you. Report, keep your bias and prejudice to yourself

    Rant over.. glad my exposure to Bigoted Brainless Corp is very limited now

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Bingo.

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  14. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – Good family values #3

    Although not so good values on minimising CO2 output. James Naughtie has been running around American States – as if there are not enough BBC reporters in the USA already and all ready – to rubbish Donald Trump’s chances of a second term and to big up Biden while ignoring the Hunter bit.

    Then another correspondent (forgotten name, sorry) is in Moscow to hunt the Russian bear and the Russian tiger. They have both bitten into Biden on water melons so our brave BBC correspondent doesn’t shoot them but just pats them on the head for making the right choice of President-to-be.

    Maybe a name change is required at Broadcasting House? Perhaps we should re-name the BBC as the DNC, the Democratic (Inter)Nationalist Corporation?

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  15. Foscari says:

    The Labour Party has got itself into this
    state over a number of reasons BUT the main one is their
    attitude towards Israel. Or should I say their left wing’s
    Marxist attitude towards the only democratic state in
    the Middle East.To be honest it’s no different than the
    beliefs of the anarchist Marxists who have come out of
    the woodwork and who have been in control of the BBC.
    So how has this come about? Harold Wilson was just about
    the best friend of Israel that any Prime Minister from the UK
    has been.
    It has happened because the Labour party has been after
    the Muslim vote for more than 20 years now and over the
    last 10 have done everything to accommodate this ever
    increasing electorate in the UK. This accommodation has not
    only included the rabid hate of Israel by many ,but the
    anti-Semitism that goes with it.So the Labour party got
    sucked into this nasty racist situation . And with a more
    than sympathetic leader of the Labour party Jeremy Corbyn
    supporting the sworn enemies of Israel , what has happened
    was bound to have come about.

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    • R P McMurphy says:

      Add to that the new influx of Muslim MP’S, local councilors and Lords, and with what Mehdi Hassan let slip ” Islam’s dirty little secret” then the writing was on the wall.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Must be a bit frustrating for Corbyn and his anti Israel friends seeing what appears to be agreements between Arab states and Israel ….
        Maybe If Mr Trump wins again a few of these characters will disappear …

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        • Up2snuff says:

          That’s a good analysis, Foscari. Strangely absent from this lunchtimes’ TWatO. Sssshh … don’t mention the M…….. .

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Foscari:

      You are right, it is all about the votes.

      If immigrants voted Conservative, then Labour would not be so keen on them. It’s the same with the Democrats in the USA.

      For leftist parties, the arithmetic is simple: more third world immigrants = more votes. It’s a shame the Conservative Party is too gutless to do something about it when they have the chance, ie. an 80 seat majority. The day will come when they never get a majority again. Remember when California was Republican, and Ronald Reagan was the governor? It was only in the 1960s, but it seems like ancient history. When demographic change happens, the results can be felt very quickly indeed.

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      • G says:

        Rob,
        Ah! Ronald Reagan. Yes, I remember well. That was when the US president had his back covered by one Margaret Thatcher and the pair destroyed the USSR. History will not repeat itself by Boris backing DJT. DJT is on his own and will, hopefully, defeat the chinese alone.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          R-i-C, Ronnie Reagon, when he was Governor of California, was a Democrat! He was a former (Trade) Union organiser in the movie industry. It was only later that he switched to the Republican Party.

          Then he ran for the Republican nomination and won. Then he won the Presidency and was a pretty good President until the end of his second term.

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  16. Up2snuff says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2643179

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business/market-data

    You would expect an organisation like the BBC to be staffed with some competent, intelligent people, would you not? It appears from the above that the answer is ‘No, not the BBC.’

    The weather forecast although generally useful and very accurate compared to the broadcast ones has a couple of major flaws. One is the search facility that doesn’t recognise well-know UK towns and cities but does find some obscure place in Idaho. Another is that, most peculiarly, 30 mph wind speeds do not exist.

    On the Markets data the problem is that the web-site owners who provide the service to the BBC are not very good at 1. sums, and, 2. updating the prices from the previous close. In addition they lose ‘items’, for example this month West Texas Intermediate (known as WTI – a US oil) went missing for several days.

    You would think ‘the world’s most trusted broadcaster’ would want to be extremely accurate with information provided on their web-site. You would think that. But no …… apparently not.

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    • Deborah says:

      Some young woman on Look North last night said it was going to be a dry day today – we have had drizzle all morning and has just turned at noon into heavy rain. No accuracy for northern forecasts.

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    • Deborah says:

      Some young woman on Look North last night said it was going to be a dry day today – we have had drizzle all morning and has just turned at noon into heavy rain. No accuracy for northern forecasts.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Deborah, the thing on the BBC web-site has a section where you can drag a timeline while observing a satellite image of weather where you live. It’s not very finely calibrated. The old Met Office one was better. But it still gives a good idea of how the day will work out.

        I think it is updated regularly through the day, too. I reckon it’s about 90% accurate. Apart from the wind speed. 30mph just does not exist.

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  17. infoquest says:

    Dr Mike Yeadon (35mins) “The BBC have lied in my face all year. I’m never going to listen to them again”

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  18. StewGreen says:

    “The BBC” is trending on Twitter
    Bearing in mind that some account like OurLefty say ridiculous things to draw other people out

    Top Tweets

    John Traynor (Communist indoctrination)
    Today, Keir Starmer suspended Jeremy Corbyn and the BBC banned staff from attending Black lives Matter and LGBT events.
    The centre is now the *far-right*

    .

    @TechnicallyRon
    BBC: “We have to be completely impartial”

    Also the BBC: “Let’s put Nigel Farage on every programme”

    Also the BBC: “We better not say transgender people need rights so pride is now banned for some reason”

    .

    Jonathan Coe
    Does anyone have a link to these guidelines?
    ‘Virtue signalling’ is not a real thing,
    it’s just a lazy *alt-right* insult,
    so if the phrase has now been codified in an official document, the BBC really is in a dark place.

    (Of course he is projecting, look how the way he uses “Alt Right” in a senses that is “not real” (actually it’s not a euphemism for conservative or right wing)
    and VS is 100% real

    Samuel West
    Now that the Director General of the BBC has explicitly adopted an *alt-right* trope by saying employees must avoid “virtue-signalling”, can we at least stop parroting the idea that the state broadcaster is institutionally left-wing?

    .

    @JolyonMaugham
    The @GoodLawProject believes the BBC’s conduct is unlawful and discriminatory.
    We have instructed leading and junior Counsel and intend to send a formal pre-action protocol letter to the BBC next week.

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    • Peter Grimes says:

      Presumably Jolyon ‘Foxy’ Maugham will be asking the Corbynutta’s supporters to dig deep to fund another of his pointless, ego-massaging legal cases. Ah well, fools and their money…

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      • Doobster78 says:

        He is Peter !! Amazing. People asking where they send money too and can they set up Direct Debits !!!

        What moronic cretins.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        No cause is truly lost until Jolyon Maugham decides to wade in and make a few quid off the gullible. You could set your watch by him.

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  19. Doobster78 says:

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  20. StewGreen says:

    SlyNews

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  21. Darcy3 says:

    Say it like it REALLY is:

    Momentum, Corbyn and the left are..RACISTS

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  22. Doobster78 says:

    But, the BBC are George Osbourne were 100% sure, in fact, insistent that my house would be worth £1 now cos i voted leave !!!!

    BBC , wrong AGAIN.

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  23. StewGreen says:

    Last night Sargon released an hour long video dealing with yesterdays issues.

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  24. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC news ticker is referring to the Islamic terrorist murderer as a ‘Tunisian ‘ – so will France declare war on Tunisia… ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Well if it happened in Luton
      They’d use the headline “Luton man”

      They did first write “Nice man, arrested for terrorism”
      .. but I guess it got changed…… /sarc

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  25. StewGreen says:

    History Debunked’s video about the Post Office pamphlet
    *Diversity* *built Britain*’

    As we’d expect it turns out that there are some Orwellian WORD GAMES going on
    “Diversity” ..oh you mean a diverse group of backgrounds, Ancient Britons, Picts, Romans, Saxons, Vikings etc. ?
    No, you are saying “Diversity” =”black”
    ..yep that’s true like the name of the BGT dance group libmob use the words Black and Diversity as if they mean the same thing.

    “African” = “black”
    of the 7 special black people only 1 is provably black the other were either North African or a white emperor born in North Africa.

    “Built Britain” : being minor figures like a trumpeter and theologian doesn’t constitute BUILDING Britain

    ============================

    His other video about the “Britain’s first black writer Mary Prince”
    explains similarly

    “writer” : she couldn’t write
    Rather she was adopted by WHITE antislavers
    who ghost wrote her lifestory for her
    and published it as an “autobiography” in a noble cause of helping to further end slavery in the Caribbean.

    And in the familiar 2+2=5 fashion, today’s activists make grand claims about her which are not true.

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    • JimS says:

      Don’t forget the part-black Mary Seacole, ‘the first nurse practioner’, ‘saved more lives than Florence Nightingale’ – but full of ‘white pride’!

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Sky also despatched a young black reporter to Jamaica to interview ………….
        Sislin Fay Allen
        “The sight of a dark-skinned young woman dressed in a police uniform, with a solid Jamaican timbre, patrolling the streets of south London in 1968 was a shock to residents. It was Sislin Fay Allen, Britain’s first black policewoman.”

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  26. Fedup2 says:

    Just for information –

    Looking at the 2016 US election – The result didn’t come through until at 0730 GMT on Wednesday ….. so some thought needs to go into the ‘staying up ‘ for those who are thinking about it …

    ……back to BBC news – the Tunisian man who allegedly beheaded catholics in a church was carrying 3 knives – and a Koran – now look that doesn’t make him an Islamic terrorist does it ? It’s a cultural thing ….

    … then the BBC had some snowflake from RUSI acting as an apologist for these killings … I didn’t get his name but he – unusually – made me feel physically sick – he’d change his tune if he was on the receiving end …. I could only – unfortunately – think of him as a C word ….just awful

    His name seemed to be Rafealo fanducci ….

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  27. StewGreen says:

    Dr. Laurence Gerlis of the commerical doctors surgery group
    say BBC Covid alarmism is unwarranted
    ‘There is a big case count, but there is something going on, cos at the end of day the death counts are the same as a normal year with winter flu
    ..what they are doing is counting mild cases’

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  28. Doobster78 says:

    Wont do any harm with the election looming.

    We are all rooting for you Mr President Sir.

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  29. StewGreen says:

    Imagine if a man in Bradford ran into a mosque and started chopping people’s heads off as he yelled “White Pride”

    Would the Sky News headline be ?
    : “It was not immediately clear what the motive was for the attack.”

    I guess Sky got their headline off the wires
    cos Tweeters said Reuters first used that line
    Ans Austria’ equivalent of Channel4 still says
    “It was not immediately clear what the motive was for the Nice attack, but the city’s mayor has described the incident as terrorism”
    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/three-dead-as-woman-beheaded-in-knife-attack-at-french-church-in-nice

    The Sky page itself still has similar wording
    https://news.sky.com/story/two-dead-in-suspected-terror-attack-in-nice-12117574

    NewsSniffer is not currently carrying SkyNews articles

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  30. StewGreen says:

    Samos Greece Earthquake
    Surely that is the region is full of migrant camps from Turkey.

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  31. StewGreen says:

    Bangladesh Muslim mob beats & BURNS man who ‘accidentally stepped on Koran’
    https://www.rt.com/news/504990-muslim-man-lynched-bangladesh

    Mental man had a conspiracy theory that guns were being hidden behind mosque bookshelves.

    Some media reports suggest Jewel accidentally stepped on the Koran during the search, when he was trying to reach the upper shelves of the bookcase, which sparked the worshippers’ outrage.
    The duo were taken into custody by the authorities shortly after the altercation and held at a local council building.
    As the news of the incident spread, however, a large mob of almost a thousand people gathered outside the building.
    They eventually broke in and snatched one of the men.
    The victim was brutally beaten in the street and set ablaze.

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  32. Fedup2 says:

    Twitter Dip

    Muslims protest outside French Embassy in London against French President – footage on RT

    Nigel Farage explains he had put £10k on Mr Trump to win …

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  33. taffman says:

    “Giving false information to NHS contact tracers will become a criminal offence in Wales.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-54748184
    Before it disappears off the front page ………………………
    Power corrupts ?

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  34. StewGreen says:

    I wonder how many Bradford/Leicester people get their news from the BBC Bangla News on Youtube ?
    – that licence fee payers fund
    – Of course it’s even less white than the rest of the networks

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  35. taffman says:

    “Glimmer of hope even as Covid cases rise”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54748633
    A message about Covid and those who are pulling the Covid strings ………….
    “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”

    You have been rumbled . BoJo neds to get the nation back to work before the nation ends up on its @rse.

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  36. StewGreen says:

    BBC Twitterpunks wear to rebel
    AFAIK Wong will get away with it
    cos he’s contract worker doing a TV show
    and the rules apply to full time staff in News and Current Affairs
    Belfield reckon the rules won’t even get applied to other either co their clever lawyer mates will say it’s “Human rights”

    TalkRadio guest did make a good point
    By having a firm rule against political tweeting, some BBC staff will feel more free
    Say you are a gay non-BLM supporting staff member
    at the moment you’d feel coerced into tweeting LGBT & BLM stuff, not cos you actually believe in it, but cos of peer pressure.
    But now you have an excuse “It’s against work rules”

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    • StewGreen says:

      James Wong is hypocritical to complain about right to free discussion being limited
      cos he limits other people’s all the time
      He’s a super blocker, if you go along with his groupthink you are fine
      but if you politely contradict him even with evidence , then bang you get blocked.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Nihal TherealNihal tweeted
      “Looks like I won’t be calling *racists* rude words anymore.”

      Again that is an Orwellian wordgame
      What does he mean by “racist” ?
      He means anyone white he doesn’t like he will smear them with the word “racist”, although most are not.
      Yet he will never call a non-white guy racist when he is.

      Jim Davidson is what happens when we don’t have enough racist testing kits out there.

      …..
      Or you are a racist.
      What is it Guy? You like Yaxley Lennon and Hopkins?

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  37. digg says:

    The Guardian reports that Scottish Shipbuilding Unions are up in arms about UK Government plans to possibly relocate shipbuilding projects outside of Scotland.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/nov/29/unions-warn-massive-betrayal-shipbuilding-contracts-leave-scotland

    “Union leaders are warning of a potential “massive betrayal” of working-class communities in Scotland if the Westminster government’s delayed national shipbuilding strategy, expected to be published on Tuesday, recommends that future contracts be awarded outside the UK.”

    If Queen Nichola gets her way Scotland WILL be outside the UK so you will have exactly the same chances as other Countries surely?

    And we could say Nicholas plans for Scotland are already a “massive betrayal” of the UK surely?

    In my opinion if the security of the UK is threatened by the actions of another region it is essential that the UK take defensive and preventative action, whatever that entails.

    You really can’t have it both ways.

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  38. Guest Who says:

    https://commentcentral.co.uk/deviate-from-climate-orthodoxy-at-your-peril/?

    In 2018 XR was brought to my attention.

    I had a quick look at their manifesto, training videos and ‘leader’ statements and realised exactly what they were.

    That folk like Sir. Boaty, Rupe, most in every political party, local and Westminster, plus vastly paid MSM clowns did not, mostly still have not and won’t explains much.

    Excuses nothing.

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  39. digg says:

    In the Guardian (actual paper that is) they are running a full page advert for a podcast to be given by one Yanis Varoufakis.

    He is to outline his plans for a push towards a “new democracy in the UK by 2025”.

    A quick look on wiki reveals how this chap has made a living by moving from Country to Country trying to stir up ultra-left wing action.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanis_Varoufakis

    The year 2025 is noteworthy as it will follow immediately after the next General Election in the UK so obviously the Guardian expect this to be a red landslide.

    They have not yet revealed this exciting event on their website so it may be that they only want “real” Guardian readers to absorb the crap…. Like maybe the BBC who buy most of the copies?

    And I ask myself… why would anyone in the UK want to be instructed by a Greek version of “Wolfie”?

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  40. Doobster78 says:

    Have you noticed how the BBC and MSM are suddenly overly enamoured with Halloween this year ?

    Report after report about how its affects people in different Tiers of lockdown.

    Narrative being, its those evil Tories not letting kids trick or treat.

    Staggering to think some people actually give a toss about Halloween and are truly upset they cannot “celebrate” it.

    Still, their a “victim” of the Tories Covid policy so its a story for the MSM

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  41. StewGreen says:

    World Econoomic Forum rep is going to be TalkRadio
    talking about the Great Reset

       3 likes

    • theisland says:

      There needs to be a ‘reset’ alright.
      Let’s start deporting savages.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Simon Dolan has jut be on saying the court case has not yet reached a decision.

      Mad green Dale Vince has been on doing a PR piece
      claiming he will make diamonds from CO2
      He won’t it’ not financially viable

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      • StewGreen says:

        The WEF guy was on an hour after Vince
        Vince was 14:36pm
        WEF head Adrian Monck 15:30pm ( video
        They put up 2 short clips but you really need the full 17 mins.

        As often happens he is now a PR guy but started in the media
        CBS News (1988–92),[1] ITV News (1992–1996), FIVEnews (1996–2004) and Sky News (2005).
        journo then producer.
        headed City University’s Department of Journalism from 2005 – 2009. ) then to head WEF

        He basically described WEF as a ThinkTank not a lever puller.
        Asked if it was connected to Agenda21 he ummed

        When asked to explain the Great Reset he toned it down
        saying it was just about jobs & reskilling after Covid, and ended by tossing in “Green”
        but had earlier said “if you don’t believe in Climate Change we won’t talk to you”
        Collins earlier thread

        In the next interview Collins will be talking to Ronnie & Reggie Kray, 2 kind and gentle East End entrepreneurs.

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  42. Guest Who says:

    They would politicise Bill and Bernadette if they could.

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  43. digg says:

    Coming soon to a Mosque near you…

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/bangladesh-man-lynched-body-burned-quran-desecration-b1448051.html

    These creatures are not really human are they?

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    • The WestWyvern says:

      The 3pm wireless news had a longish piece with a mudslime apologist saying how dear mudslimes in France were now cowering in fear and dread because of President Microns tough words…..

      FFS BBC what about the poor woman who had her head severed and her family…?

      Changing the narrative, again. Making out the perpetrators to be the victims. Again.

      The BBC and their supporters are truly scum. Evil.

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  44. Guest Who says:

    No idea what this link will bring, but I share as the BBC might not.

    https://parler.com/post/6f6f1f5b856c4f62b458db0f66dc0502

    It’s what Glenn Greenwald quit over.

    He’s a journalist.

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  45. tarien says:

    They asked us on Yahoo whether we thought the suspension of Jeremy Corbyn from the Labour Party was right or wrong-how can we respond when they won’t let you comment! Terrified as usual that they don’t want to listen to the peoples views one way or the other-totally marxist, totally socialistic and a monster in the way of progress with another monster of deceit the BBC or perhaps should be renamed Black Broadcasting Club- as that is all that is mostly shown on the BBC TV Channels. White lives matter as much as any other colour, especially in this nation with a majority white indigenous peoples. Land of hope and glory, mother of the free.

       12 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Tarien – I fully support Jeremy Corbyn and his attempt to split the socialists into historical footnotes .. after that let’s deal with the red ‘Tories ‘ and get a fully Right Wing government -with me so far …. ?

         18 likes

      • The WestWyvern says:

        With you Fed, whilst personally I could not give a hoot about the in -fighting of the national broadcasters political wing, I hope both heads of the serpent bite themselves to death and quickly.

        As for the red tories, there used to be a poster called Smoggie here that sung their praises, perhaps he/she could explain what’s going on with the Reds.

        Steve Shite in the afternoon on the wireless nowinterviewing someone talking about queers.

        It’s relentless. Every channel/station 24/7.

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      • theisland says:

        Hear hear.

           3 likes

      • tarien says:

        100% with you Fedup2-How about Nigel Farage for PM? Would the dark civil service support his views which most of us share?

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  46. StewGreen says:

    unreported : Muslim protest at French embassy

       14 likes

    • Doobster78 says:

      Well here is the differing rules for our Friends of Colour v the general UK population.

      BLM protests – Sadiq Khan urges people to attend.

      Anti lockdown protest he has this to say

      And today as muslims gather in large numbers to protest.. NOTHING.

      DISGUSTING 2 tier policing.

         24 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        That lot will land up on public transport happily infecting each other and poor punters from elsewhere..

        Selective use of laws points towards the tyranny coming our way ….

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  47. richard D says:

    This morning’s BBC Today programme resulted in a Personal Political Broadcast for a certain Keir Starmer who apparently has, for years and years and years, been at the forefront of the charge to rid the Labour Party of its systemic anti-Semitic outlook …..(NOT).

    Favourite phrase of his hardly-challenged broadcast this morning was his oft-repeated desire that he wanted to ‘draw a line’ under the situation today, and to move on. Not so much ‘drawing a line’ as burying any possible connection with the Labour Party and its institutional anti-Semitic behaviour, as fast as possible, so he can get back to sneering and moaning – along with the BBC – at the Conservatives.

    What’s the betting that this whole affair slides from the view of the BBC, it’s TV channels, radio stations, websites, etc., as fast as they can make it happen ?

    I can pretty much guarantee that, within a very short period, Mr Starmer will be leading the charge to demand that the Conservative Party becomes the target of an ‘independent’ inquiry into its ‘deeply-embedded anti-Islamic policies and behaviour.’…. a position which will quickly be adopted by the BBC.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Richard

      They have already started last night on R4 when one of the Labour Gobshit3 sisters was asked to comment on the JC event – part of her reply, which went unchallenged, was – it’s not just Labour we have to look at the known problem of Islamophobia in the Tories (paraphrased).
      I expect this attack to be coming on strong soon…especially if any Tory dares comment on the French situation

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  48. Guest Who says:

    The Week is not a title I pay much attention to, but this is a useful collation.

    https://www.theweek.co.uk/instant-opinion/108545/bbc-cannot-police-virtue-signalling?

       4 likes

  49. Guest Who says:

    Golly, there’s thing.

    I wonder why?

    https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/357333/while-ad-spending-crashed-for-most-news-media-duri.html?

    None of the uniquely funded? Guess Jon must buy the CNN guys the drinks.

       5 likes

  50. Guest Who says:

    Oo, Franny is still in the building.

    https://tradingaswdr.blogspot.com/2020/10/things-were-going-so-well.html?

    Worth every penny (of which tvl payers contribute many).

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