Start the Week 26 October 2020

8 days until the US election. Will the Biased Far Left Anti British BBC descend even further to triumphalism as their socialist candidate becomes a shoe in ? And if they are wrong – how will they handle 4 more years of President Trump ? Get your popcorn ready …

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400 Responses to Start the Week 26 October 2020

  1. Scroblene says:

    Morning All!


  2. fakenewswatcher says:

    Morning Sroblene. Is that first? Have you brought your grappling hooks to assault Labour / bbc walls?
    Take care not to ding Marcus Rashford on the head, should you employ them!
    He’s up there somewhere in the Labour/beeb/ strategy dug-out.


    • Scroblene says:

      Morning Squire Watcher!

      I expect that there will be a huge outpouring of BBC bile this week about Greta Rashford and Co saving the world, and the nasty, evil politicians trying to apply common sense!

      I also believe that the government will do all the ‘listening’ they have to do to appease the public, then do exactly what they did with Jaimie Oliver’s campaign to ban turkey twizzlers, i.e. let it fade into oblivion!


  3. taffman says:

    The illegals are not messing about in dinghies anymore, they are using tankers . This is what you get when you treat illegals and criminals by putting them up in 4 star hotels. Expect more to come despite the huff and bluster from what is in effect a supine government.
    Question: how many criminals have been deported so far?


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      taffman- does it matter how you reach Dover, as long as you reach it.
      Border Farce, Special Boat Service, it’s all the same to them. And you can start you trip so much earlier (Lagos?) Why bother with dinghies from Tripolis? They don’t even have to request free school meals or stick up a picture of our Marcus when they get here, it will all be courtesy of some 4-star hotel!
      And lotsa lefty lawyers.


      • taffman says:

        If they do get jailed , that will be four years of free food , health care and a roof over their heads in a UK slammer. More than they would get in Nigeria?
        It’s over to the ‘get rich’ human rights lawyers now.


        • BRISSLES says:

          Taff, “It’s over to the ‘get rich’ human rights lawyers now.” Thats the crux of the matter, Priti should deport all the bloody foreign immigration / human rights lawyers, and that would halve the problem immediately.


    • Foscari says:

      taffman-I think with these illegals having the cheek in going
      for trying to hijack a tanker that 4* hotels are not good enough
      for them . For me they should be put up in the Dorchester or
      Claridges at least!


  4. taffman says:

    School dinners ? Will we see Tory MPs virtue signalling? Over to Al Beeb … many school dinners could be paid for by abolishing the Telly Tax ?


    • Guest Who says:

      The media and not asking their proxy cause heroes actual pertinent questions.


      • Guest Who says:

        BBC Moaning Emole in complement.


        Free meals row

        Donald Trump and Joe Biden during the final TV debate

        Ministers are continuing to insist they will not bow to pressure and fund free meals for school children in England over half-term. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have all introduced schemes, but their Westminster counterparts argue there’s already a safety net in place for those who need it, including increased Universal Credit. That’s despite demands for a rethink by a number of Conservative MPs, who feel the government is losing the argument and should put a new system in place by Christmas.

        More than 800,000 people have signed a petition started by footballer Marcus Rashford calling for provision to continue in the holidays. Some local councils – including Conservative-run ones – have promised to supply meal vouchers, but Labour says a postcode lottery means many will lose out. Thanks to Rashford, scores of pubs, cafes and restaurants have also offered free food.

        In England, about 1.3 million children claimed free school meals in 2019, and analysis by the Food Foundation estimates a further 900,000 may have sought help since the start of the pandemic. One woman, Danielle, told the BBC what holiday hunger felt like for her as a child, and how she often resorted to shoplifting or “bin-diving” to cope.

        The ‘row’ is entirely stirred by the media, fed by the Rashford activist PR machine, serving up a ‘Danielle’ selected Vox pop to order via the special line.

        That she is necking eight pints at the local probably covers the cost of ‘free’ turkey twizzlers for her brood in the play area.


  5. andyjsnape says:

    Don’t assume because we’re black we’re not Welsh
    Black people live in Wales, reports the bBC

    Surely another day closer to closing it down


    • taffman says:

      We use to have a lot of coal miners in taffland , not so now. They were all closed down, as we hope Al Beeb will be .
      Fewer and fewer people watch it ,


  6. Fedup2 says:

    The telegraph reports on a survey showing that 59% of viewers want the BBC defunded . Although conducted by Ann independent researcher it was funded by ‘defund the BBC’ so it’s validity can be attacked ….the survey number was about 2600…

    However – many must see the trend – as well as the number of licences being binned ……why any one would have one now is beyond me – and I’d use covid as cover – no TVL visits …..I’m isolating … bye

    Elsewhere -BBC assistant producer fired for coming to ‘work’ on the east Enders set after positive covid test …..


    • Guest Who says:

      Use of Covid bbc sanctioned for training and security reasons.

      Also the ‘mole…


      ‘I thought I wasn’t going to make it’

      Devi Nurjandoa is a 58-year-old rehabilitation therapist and nurse who has worked in the NHS for more than 15 years. The mother-of-two, who was born in Mauritius and lives in south London, caught Covid at the beginning of April. She spent almost two months in hospital. She is acutely aware from personal experience – and many reports – that people from ethnic minorities are at greater risk from the virus, linked to the jobs they do as well as where they live. But she says if people from these backgrounds stopped working, her department and much of the hospital would probably grind to a halt.

      Read full analysis >

      Smitha Mundasad
      Health correspondent, BBC News

      The cubicle gardens do have a lot of health correspondents with relatives. As the ‘analysis’ will doubtless reveal.


    • G says:

      Use of American pollsters I suspect.


    • andyjsnape says:

      Hi Fed

      Who does Ann work for 🙂


  7. harry142857 says:

    Another cancelled.

    Match of the Day commentator Guy Mowbray has been forced to delete his Twitter after being criticised for his comments regarding Marcus Rashford and his philanthropic efforts.
    were at stadium
    While on commentary duty Mowbray said: “He didn’t get a win in parliament, but he got the winner in Paris.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Harry guess the footy commenters are all getting woke in fear of losing their job to some coloured girl who apparently played for the ‘national ‘girls side – meaning te know all about prem footy …


  8. Foscari says:

    I couldn’t believe that BIG BROTHER from the diversity dept
    allowed the Antiques Road Show to be shown last night on
    the BBC. Any of you that watched it will know what I mean.
    And those that didn’t can guess.Yes I know it was from the
    heart of Devon. But still!!


  9. Guest Who says:

    On twitter, supposed journalists often use ‘not sure’… just in case.


  10. Sluff says:

    On Toady at 0710.
    News about the SBS raid on the oil tanker in the Solent.

    The story they want us to focus on is the raid by the SBS on potentially violent stowaways.

    The story they don’t want us to focus on is the existence of another illegal route into the UK. So much easier than hiking across Africa and Europe at huge cost and then getting an inflatable across the channel. An oil tanker. That’s the ticket.

    But is was selective memory time again at the BBC. It was mentioned that the Ship’s Master knew the stowaways were on board but only told the authorities when things kicked off.

    Which begs questions not asked by the BBC’s highly paid presenters. Such as a. What would he done if things hadn’t kicked off? Nothing? And b. Was he therefore in fact complicit?
    Obviously too near the bone for illegal immigrant loving LeftMob BBC.

    There was a hilarious moment later. In the headlines at 0730 this story was immediately followed by one about lawyers writing to the Guardian about a government attack on Lefty lawyers (such as those endlessly supporting asylum seekers) !!!!!!!!!!

    I’d like to think the editor was ‘avin’ a larf but I realise it was just an inadvertent juxtaposition from a breed who are too Far Left to have a sense of humour.


    • G says:

      SBS = Royal Marines; Royal Marines v Channel boat crossings. Proof if it were needed: ‘Win some lose some’.


    • theisland says:

      Just to clarify, the seven ‘stowaways’ are safe and the 22 crew (how many complicit?) were found safe.

      This was all due to an operation by our Special Boat Service. Ben Wallace said “People are safe tonight thanks to their efforts.”

      Who is safe exactly? Not us or our children and grandchildren.
      Hands up who feels ‘safe’ and thankful that all these people are safe.


      • Guest Who says:

        I wonder if their machetes were confiscated or they were allowed to retain them for cultural reasons?


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        A pound to a penny all the “asylum seekers” claim to be under 18. They will probably be at school this time next week.


    • G says:

      They’ve all created such a complex web of arcane legislation that they now trip over some unexpected on their drive to achieve a particular goal. Eg. We can’t send them back to France scenario. Why? It is more that simply being, ‘not cricket’ (Eton term?)


  11. Doobster78 says:

    So here it is !! Half Term week. The week the BBC have been waiting for.

    The week where seemingly no parent can muster£1 – £3 for 5 days to give their sprog some lunch (funny that breakfast and dinner are OK tho, no problem there ??)

    Expect endless soundbites from chubby Chantelle and fat Freya stood in front of their 60 inch TV’s giving us the sob stories.

    Come Wednesday , bodies will be piling up in the streets, kids that have starved to death , Boris will be up on a murder charge come Thursday and by Friday Marcus Rashford will be installed as the new Prime Minister !!!


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Isn’t it amazing the pressure the media can exert when it wants to bang on about something?

      Now, if they’d just do the same regarding the absurd over-reaction to the former pandemic, we can be back to normal by the end of the week.


      • Guest Who says:

        Absurd over-reaction you say?

        Tick, tick, tick, tick….

        Keep stirring BBC.

        Interesting they seem one of few ’employers’ who are ditching those with talent and experience in favour of meeting quotas.


    • JamesArthur says:


      There is something wrong with this BBC picture……they are all white.
      Is it because they don’t want any negativity to not being able to feed their children to be focused on BAMEs?
      Their hypocrisy and bias is sickening…


    • Foscari says:

      Doobster -One has to get priorities right. The boozer comes ,
      first. A packet of fags next Followed by a flutter at the bookies.
      Kid’s dinners? Do me a favour !!


  12. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    What’s happened to the Biden Laptop scandal?

    Did Biden’s tactic of “Deny Deny Deny” work?

    I thought there was more to be released.
    “You ain’t seen nuffin yet” we were told after the first leak. Since then I can honestly
    say. I ain’t seen nuffin.

    Anybody else?


  13. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Not the BBC but a marvellous example of how our “free” press behaves.

    “Vladimir Putin says he does not see anything criminal in Hunter Biden’s behaviour despite Donald Trump’s insinuations.”

    [States the HardLeftdependent.]

    “Mr Putin appeared on Russian state television on Sunday night and refuted Mr Trump’s claims about the Bidens.”

    [No he denied the charges. Refute and deny are not cognate no matter how hard the Commie hacks at the HardLeftdependent may pretend otherwise.]

    “The Trump campaign has been pushing unverified and uncorroborated stories purporting to come from emails taken from Hunter Biden’s laptop.”

    [Purporting! The FBI, the US DOJ and John Ratcliffe, the Director of National Intelligence, have all confirmed this.]

    “A computer repairman claimed the laptop was left in his store and it ended up with Rudy Giuliani who provided it to the New York Post.”

    [This “computer repairman” has a receipt with the cocaine addict’s signature, and a receipt from the FBI confirming they their receipt of the laptop.
    The unique identifier the FBI gave to their investigation began with the code they use for child pornography.

    Numerous other comments about this lying propaganda could be made.]


    • G says:

      I do wish that Putin and his followers would stick solely to Worldwide thuggery – they excel at that. Bribery and corruption? The Russian behaviour is synonymous with the two so, for Putin it would be a natural inclination.


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Sorry about the “they their”
      The sentence should have started “No, Giulliani received a copy of the hard drive, not the laptop …”


  14. Guest Who says:

    Not going to buy in, but happy to share what series I did not start, often thanks to the pre-release PR synopsis that gets woke reviewers excited if not viewers.


    Enders Analysis released this research on 26 October 2020. It has been emailed in full to subscribers. A brief description follows:

    In this report, we examine the completion rates of every scripted series since 2018 across all the major UK broadcast channels
    Comparing scripted programmes across different channels by overall viewing is difficult as these numbers are affected by promotion, prominence, competition, the quality of online player UIs and availability
    The rate that series are completed—viewing of the final episode as a proportion of the first episode—eliminates these and allows comparison


  15. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    I would like to make two points:

    1) #DefundTimDavie. Two months into Tim Davie reign as director general of the BBC it has become clear that he is the wokest kid in town. Yet I thought he was a “conservative” and was going to clear up the BBC. Is it something to do with the fact that he is white and he is a man that he feels the need to prove to others that he is one of the acceptable white men? Hence his zeal to accelerate the woke agenda.

    2) One of the things that I would find useful is to have a discussion thread on this forum (or a linked discussion forum) with people on this forum – using their available expertise and experience to discuss things. For example many people say that “cultural change” is being led by “Marxists” but I think that is debateable.

    Ps: On point 2 I think this would have to be a linked blog or forum because it would detract away from the primary goal of this site and put more admin onto already overworked volunteers. Hence maybe someone could recommend a blog or forum for that.


    • G says:

      “……many people say that part of the cultural change is being led by Marxists – but I am not convinced that is true.”
      What are the tools of the trade for Marxists? Look about and tell me that they are not extensively and intensively plying their trade.
      The simpletons don’t even realise they are following the Marxist playbook. Take (perhaps) BLM for example.


      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        They may be using the propaganda tools of “Marxists” but do you have to be a Marxist to use those tools? [This is what I mean by having somewhere to discuss this rather than just having to accept various assertions].


    • StewGreen says:

      @G Why do people say that many of today’s movements are rooted in Marxist
      – Roger Hallam founder of XR.. Marxist
      – Gary McFarlane founder of BLM UK
      … Marxist who was routed in his TalkRadio interview as he spouted Marxist dogma.

      Also see the way lefty orgs keep reinventing themselves with different names
      The anti Trump base used to be called the Occupy Movement and before that something else.

      The way that orgs talk about a Great Reset, or new world order
      does seem like the Marxist idea of overthrowing the state.


  16. StewGreen says:

    Radio4 12:15pm *Bradford*
    “How fake claims circulating among *communities* in Bradford, West Yorkshire are harming the battle against rising cases of Covid-19 infections in the city”

    “Oct 24
    10 Covid-19-related hospital deaths reported in the Bradford district today”
    wow 10 deaths in one town in one day !
    Yesterday they had just 1


    • StewGreen says:

      Bradford Covid : BBC have a page “doctor’s diary in Bradford”

      There is a strong feeling here that Eat Out To Help Out in August was the moment when people let their guard down and the virus entered their homes, though this cannot be proven”

      “Around 50% in some areas refuse to be tested. There is huge, huge mistrust in national and local government.”
      Contact tracing is just 50%

      The article doesn’t mention Vitamin D, nor mosques.


      • Roland Deschain says:

        I guess they did Eat Out to Help Out in other European countries too. That would explain the similar rise in cases.

        Or perhaps it’s the exponential™️ rate of growth in testing coupled with increasing false positive rate due to lack of expertise in the testers leading to cross-contamination.


  17. AsISeeIt says:

    It’s a long held and great British tradition to attempt to glorify in some way our most embarrassing military blunders. The Charge of the Light Brigade, Rorke’s Drift, Dunkirk… and so it is that our media would have us forget the wider picture of our abject capituation to the apparently irrestible forces of third world irregular channel invaders of 2020 and focus instead some supposed pride in how: ‘SBS Storm Hijack Ship. Special Forces take just nine minutes to overpower Isle of Wight “Pirates”‘ (The Metro).

    Gosh, medals and plaudits all round chaps! We understand the African stowaways originally overpowered the crew of the ship armed with ‘poles, urine and feaces’ and issued ‘verbal threats’ – so it must have been pretty hairy out there for our brave boys.

    Pirates, eh? Haul ’em off and clap them in (hotel) irons, trouser presses and minibars. That’ll show ’em, me hearties! Maroon ’em in some suburban location and surround them with human rights lawyers, make a real example of ’em, eh…?

    Makes you proud to be British.

    The Mirror has little doubt in: ‘Marcus: the pride of Britain. He gets Mirror award as PM urged to meet him’

    Now then little Johnny, this is your pocket money, but this here is your school dinner money, see the difference? (child looks bemused and frankly so am I).

    ‘More cash for poorest as PM seeks end to school meals row’ (The Times)

    To our elder generation. Perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised that the children of the 1960s would eventually mature into a second crazy hazy youth – “Turn on, tune in, drop out” as LSD hippie guru Timothy Leary would have had it.

    Legalise it, we’ll advertise it in the Times this morning: ‘Prolific drug users will no longer face prosecution’

    Meanwhile the Express has: ‘Dementia patients drugs scandal. Anger as use of “risky sedatives” rises in pandemic’ and on a similar theme the Telegraph ponders: ‘As delirium is recognised as symptom, how covid is messing with our heads’

    It’s a world-wide phenomenon. The Americans seem set to elect a doddery spaced out geriatric liberal: ‘Biden has three-point lead in pivotal Texas’ (Telegraph)

    ‘Hospital food must be served on china plates, NHS told’ (Telegraph). Which tells me the NHS has been favouring the tupperware. Oddly enough the Daily Mail are still promoting their: ‘Free Laura Ashley tea set’ – I’m not sure I can expect the multi-layered floral print porcelin cake stand but as a patient one might prefer not to feel as though one were in the canteen in Porridge being served a dollop of lumpy custard in a plastic bowl by Luke Warm the trustee. At least treat NHS patients as well as our four star asylum seekers.

    The ‘i’ is celebrating its tenth birthday and is disarmingly frank: ‘The story of ‘i’, tricky start and sceptics’. And of course the virtual liberal paper has to celebrate: ‘Black, British and in business. The entrepreneurs fighting racism’ – presumably the leftwing cure for black unemployment is to put them to work fighting racism. Now I’m beginning to understand.

    The Mail promises: ‘Twelve minute covid test in Boots. 97% accurate swabs available in stores within weeks’ – but wait a minute, very quick rough and ready maths – current daily testing is finding 6% positives (official figures: 340k tests, 19k positives) so a 3% error could be equal to half of the positive results (by all means check my workings) ?

    And what of the 1%? The FT points out: ‘Private jet operators reap windfall as wealthy flyers splash out to avoid virus’


  18. 1984 says:

    How long can the BBC bang on about Rashford for? Anything that hits their narrative G spots and it’s saturation coverage. We got two weeks over Cummings shockingly having to care for his sick child as he succumbed to a lethal plague. A career criminal who resisted arrest whilst overdosed on drugs died and we had months and months of coverage.

    Why do we pay for an absurd number of BBC ‘journalists’ when they just say about five narratives constantly? Trump is bad. Tories are bad. Immigrants are fantastic. Women can only be victims. As well as being lazy, cowardly and moronic it is so, so boring. It has become the Groundhog Broadcasting Corporation.

    I have twice turned on the radio this morning and twice turned it off in fury. As if the new chief can sort this mess out. Bias is in its DNA and a leopard does not change its spots. Hell will freeze over before the BBC says anything remotely sensible or right wing.


    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      The BBC has become a propaganda organisation. This is what they produced for Lewis Hamilton:


    • StewGreen says:

      “*Caring* for your own child by driving him to the grandparents farm for safety” … BAD

      .. “Demanding other people *care* for your child by funding his food” .. GOOD

      Things are decided on the value they have to Labour PR

      Anyway policies should not be rushed through by emotional blackmail.
      There is a problem with UK housing costs, green energy inflating bills etc.
      but that needs long term planning


  19. StewGreen says:

    8:00pm prog about how students are dealing with Covid etc.
    Let’s use that girl who make a doco for R4 before
    “where she tracked her decision as she weighed up whether being mixed race would make it hard to accept an offer at Cambridge.”
    Anoushka Mutanda-Dougherty

    8:30pm “In Germany, if you are made redundant you receive 60% of your income for a year.
    The furlough scheme has raised a question: should Britain’s social insurance be more German ?
    .. No it hasn’t. Stop making things up


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Cambridge is the most woke, liberal place imaginable. Did this poor wee snowflake think she would be met by burning crosses on the college lawns?

      I am reliably informed that the Cambridge University chapter of the Ku Klux Klan disbanded some time in the 80s. She’s perfectly safe there now.


  20. Deborah says:

    I hadn’t realised how rapid the decline or wokeness of the BBC had happened. Last night on BBC4 I watched an interesting programme about the history of wheat production in the UK….. and it was informative.
    However the history was focussed through three farming families, one in Northumberland, one in East Anglia and one in Essex. All were white. The interviews were with old white MEN who told the story of their families over the last 80 years. The programme told us about the dire state of farming in the 1930s, how combines had helped with food production during WW2, the reasons for subsidies for wheat before we joined the EEC, why the EU provided support for farming, why set aside happened and how pesticides were used without regulations (although there was a slight reference to DDT and thinning wild bird egg shells. What wasn’t mentioned was climate change, interviewing women, showing women driving a combine (the Lloyds Bank advert at the moment does that) or finding a black farmer. However the farmer in Northumberland had gone organic and the economic reasons he had done that.
    So there was the beginnings of wokeness present – ie the DDT, the organic farmer. But the programme informed and was not judgemental.
    The programme was made during the 2008 harvest and was dated 2009. The amazing thing is that they allowed it to be shown in 2020 even on BBC4.


  21. digg says:

    I smell collusion between the crew of the tanker and the “passengers”. Apparently the crew knew for some time they were aboard so why wait until in UK waters and just off the coast before alerting the authorities, I think I know. and suspect that brown envelopes were involved.

    To halt this in it’s tracks, the UK should just have just turned the ship around and sent it back.


    • Banania says:

      We are told that the illegal immigrants will have to stay for several years in this country while their case is discussed, so they have got what they wanted.


  22. digg says:

    I smell collusion between the crew of the tanker and the Nigerian “stow-aways”. Apparently the crew knew for some time they were aboard so why wait until inside UK waters and just off the coast before alerting the authorities, I think I know. and suspect that brown envelopes were involved.

    To halt this in it’s tracks, the UK should just have just turned the ship around and sent it back.

    If the UK Government fall for this fairy story it will say much about our Border Force…

    As the winter weather sets in this will become the route of choice to avoid the rough crossing in the channel.

    The smugglers must be so pleased that the UK are so unwilling to halt their industry.


    • JamesArthur says:

      I said same to wifey…the crew knew they were least one/some of them did and money was involved – which crew and where are they from..guess it isn’t the UK. So Capt, prob not from UK says let’s do an SOS they will come and take you away but don’t worry the air fare will be zero and you will get whisked straight to your hotel without customs checks..

      How much did the SBS etc cost the UK? probably pay for a few school meals…

      Any MP that doesn’t condemn this and say they should be sent straight back to wherever the boat last docked should be deselected…

      can’t wait for BBC to paint a different picture….


      • digg says:

        I also believe that the decision to send in “Elite” Forces was a PR attempt to obscure the situation by the Police, Navy, Border Force, Government etc.

        The story then becomes all about Brave troops defusing a potentially volatile situation rather than a weak Border Force ferrying them in which is what in effect happened.

        They might as well have just let the ship dock and allow the “stowaways” to just amble off into the night…


      • G says:

        I always thought it was an, ‘open door’ from Nigeria.


    • StewGreen says:

      Well what happened to the last lot who seized a ship ?
      .. off London I think


  23. Darcy3 says:

    More wokes offended, so easily offended, endlessly offended FFS

    Parents back headmistress of £40,000-a-year Kent girls’ boarding school in racism row after students demand she apologise for saying the word ‘negro’ in assembly

    Would love to force them to watch non stop Love thy Neighbour episodes and watch them explode

    Or send them to the middle east and see how their beloved muslim brothers treat women, Christians and homosexuals


  24. Guest Who says:

    Head shot in case things go pear shaped. Smart move.

    I wonder what she gets paid?


  25. Sluff says:

    Are the people whingeing about the failure of the evil Tories to provide free meals for starving children the same ones who………….whinge about …….the amount of childhood obesity and junk food availability ?

    Both sound like LeftMob woke statist intervention issues, so I’m guessing the answer is yes. Actually, I don’t need to guess.
    ‘Child obesity- will we see radical action?’

    In which case, hahahahahahahaha. Oh, the irony.

    Crisps and burgers, anyone?


  26. Up2snuff says:

    The problem for the current Government over free school meals is that, along with Governments from the Labour Party, over the last sixty years they have created a society where marriage for life is not valued, multiple partners have been no longer looked upon as a poor choice or a less than ideal situation and single parenthood is not just enabled but enhanced and encouraged. It is now something of a ‘Badge of Honour’.

    In addition, working some distance from where you live has become the norm.

    Therefore you have very few stay-at-home mothers, supported by a working husband. In addition, grandparents are more likely to live some way away than ever before or could even be working themselves (and more likely to be single/divorced/separated) than ever before. You have more women working than ever before – who are ‘time poor’ – and multiple sibling households requiring feeding all year round and when there are school holidays and a single working mother what is likely to happen?

    As the saying goes: ‘It ain’t rocket science.’

    When Rashford first started banging his gong (about hungry children*), the PM and Dom Cummings both read the situation and played the situation badly. Same with the House vote on the issue.

    Now they have a much bigger problem and the egg is all over the faces of the PM, the Cabinet and the SPADs. Choose your battles wisely, Prime Minister, and when you do make sure that they are ones in which you have a good and probable chance of victory.

    * I ought in fairness to point out that children are always hungry – hence the obesity crisis – and requiring much feeding, the little gannets, bless ’em.


    • Zelazek says:


      Further to the good points you have made about this free school meals debate, the answer to child hunger and poverty in my view is not ever-increasing amounts of welfare but JOBS – specifically the right type of jobs.

      The first thing I would do is end this lockdown pantomime and get the economy moving again.

      But the second thing I would do is recognise that we need to bring back manufacturing jobs to this country. We have to acknowledge that many people on welfare are unskilled and barely literate. They are not unemployed because they have not been given opportunities. It is because they have below average IQs. We are afraid to acknowledge this stark fact in these politically correct days in case it appears that we are calling people thick. But we must acknowledge it. It doesn’t matter if you send these people to university to acquire worthless degrees in mickey mouse subjects, they will never become investment bankers or start up their own tech companies or even secure the typical job that is on offer in the service economy of this information age. But they can do the type of factory job that used to be plentiful in this country before manufacturing companies discovered outsourcing and offshoring. With this type of work, the average man can have a full-time job with a good wage, he can keep his marriage together, regain a sense of self-worth and not become dependent on the state. And feed his kids – all by himself.

      (Trump has realised all this in America. He is putting his own people first and is bringing these jobs back from overseas. That is why the ordinary working man loves him.)


      • Up2snuff says:

        Zelazek, I agree but jobs and working (whether single or not) Mums are really at the heart of the problem. We are seeing the culmination of a lot of social trends, either encouraged or allowed to happen or happened by accident, to our UK society because politicians and Civil Servants are chronically poor at asking ‘What if’ questions and even worse at answering them.

        Politicians of all political colour are equally guilty of this although some have mendaciously made specific changes that affect the UK economy and society to make life difficult or impossible for ‘the other lot’ or to advantage themselves come Election time or both.


  27. fakenewswatcher says:

    On R4 Andrew Marr is looking at the rise of China over ‘the West’. I thought immediately of the two capitals Beijing and London (a factor not mentioned in ‘Start the Week’, but highly symbolic); no more was required.
    Beijing run by Chinese for Chinese with a view to promoting the interests of China (and the CCP!) London run by er…the Diverse for…er the Diverse with a view to representing …er..Diversity.

    Looks like no contest, right there. Don’t need to explore all the other factors Marr’s guests prattle on about.

    Take any little thing: who has been hyped up to the rafters by the ‘public broadcasters’? Why, for us, it’s footballer Marcus Rashford, who has almost reached parity with Boris, claim beeb, for wanting free school meals for ‘starving’ kids (but not with his own cash). His Election credentials (allegedly our strong point as democracy): ZERO
    I’m going to try find out who has been hyped up in China, but I somehow doubt it will be a footballer whom the Chinese media want to sit opposite Xi Jinping to discuss free school meals during the holidays!
    Please, let’s not hear any more about how we are a democracy, either.


  28. JimS says:

    Radio 4’s Feedback on Sunday has now achieved a first, not a single listener-initiated item.

    We were told how marvellous Across The Red Line was. Roger Bolton pushed, yet again, the BBC Big Lie that the UK has never been so divided, (who could have done that Roger, if that is true?). Then Mark Damazer, an ex-controller of Radio 4, told us what he thought the new chairman should be like.

    Two Americans were exposed to Americast and didn’t get exactly excited about it.

    When are listeners going to be allowed to actually give feedback on BBC radio?

    Of course there is no point as the BBC always gets it ‘just about right’.


  29. Jeff says:

    You know, I’m beginning to wonder how my old mum ever fed us when we were kids. How on Earth did she manage?
    These days it seems the state is supposed to feed children, not only when they’re at school, but also during the school holidays. Why FFS?
    I mean, if you’re a parent don’t you have some responsibility for bringing up your own children? Where the Hell will all this end?

    In real terms food has never been more plentiful or cheaper. When I was a wee sprog if we had chicken for Sunday dinner I’d be boasting about it when I went to school on Monday morning. Things are so much cheaper now. On Thursday I picked up a tray of chicken thighs from Morrison’s for under £2.00. I finished them yesterday, so they’ve fed me for four days.

    It’s so bloody typical of the BBC to be cheer leading for this pointless, virtue signalling, campaign. It makes them look all kind and cuddly. A bit like old jug ears Lineker making noises about accommodating illegal immigrants. It’s political posturing.

    Here we are with the covid chaos, lunatic local authorities locking down their communities, businesses going bust, the economy tanking, unemployment sky rocketing and they’re pretending to fret about school dinners.

    It’s like Douglas Bader worrying about an ingrowing toenail…


  30. G says:

    ‘What does the panel think?’

    Shady things Brexit going on. Running out of chairs for the musical chairs.


  31. ScottishCalvin says:

    Scirbbling and thoughts for this week:


  32. christoff says:

    I’m not the biggest football fan but enjoy Sunday’s MOTD2 highlights with a beer and pizza to round off the weekend. Especially if I can somehow avoid catching the results throughout the day.
    Intro from MOTD2 presenter : “Neither Tim, Leon or even myself were born the last time Leicester won at Arsenal. Commentary from Guy Mowbray, who may have been”
    Guy Mowbray : ” It was September 1973. 27 visits later Leicester try again”

    Imagine my surprise when Leicester won…..


  33. Doobster78 says:

    LOL !!


  34. christoff says:

    Could someone, anyone, even a highly paid top of my profession BBC reporter, please provide me with a typical family budget for a household that claims to be unable to provide 5 simple meals a week for a short half-term holiday.
    How much comes in via wages? If a single parent how much does the other parent contribute? If nothing, why ? How much in tax credits, child allowance ? How much free stuff (rent subsidy, council tax, nursery places, etc etc)
    Outgoings please. Including how much spent on food and, importantly, what food is bought.
    I’m happy to contribute to help “starving” children but I’m keen to ensure my money is being spent wisely.


    • Fedup2 says:

      It’s a new angie on the ‘feed the world ‘ circus – maybe celebs can do a Christmas song – with the Newham Muslim choir ….


      • Darcy3 says:

        All we need now is some unkempt. foul mouthed Irishman who has been dining out on “I don’t Like Mondays” for nigh on fifty years to appear…….

        here he comes crawling out of his shebeen, blinking in the daylight…

        “For focks sake dose poor kids ! give us der focking monee !”


  35. StewGreen says:

    Middle of the night brainwashing radio
    bbc voice using the line
    “Judge Coney Barrett does not acknowledge
    the fundamental scientific *certainty* of climate change”
    (maybe it was “reality”)

    but I found investigative journo AntoniaJuhasz
    tweeting that phrase multiple times
    So suspect the cultish voice was her
    Her Twitter is full on Climate activist and she tweets about how she has organised a petition of journos.

    “More Than 70 Science and Climate Journalists Challenge Supreme Court Nomination of Amy Coney Barrett”

    Why should we take notice of journos petitions ?
    Why only 70 ?
    And it shows journos are activists, not impartial.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      It does not matter what Judge Barrett’s private opinions of climate change, abortion or same sex marriage are.

      Her only job as a Supreme Court Justice is to understand the Constitution of the United States, and then decide if a law is or is not constitutional.

      In the past 50 years the Supreme Court has begun to act like a branch of the legislature, and thus debased itself. The only way the left got what they wanted about abortion or same sex marriage was by ignoring the voters and finding left wing justices who would magic up “constitutional rights” to these things out of thin air.

      I believe Judge Barrett will act honestly and in accordance with the Constitution. That is exactly why leftists are against her. An honest judge is anathema to them.


      • Banania says:

        One’s beliefs about climate change are essentially religious. Judges are well experienced in keeping their religious beliefs out of their judicial reasoning.


  36. andyjsnape says:

    A quote from the bBC website
    “Many news organisations, including the BBC, have dedicated fact-checking services to help audiences make sense of the world and spot lies and misinformation”

    To spot lies 🙂 or twist the truth!

    Kettle black


  37. Darcy3 says:

    Lucky SBS / tanker drivers I say

    All the Nigerians I have come across are ex members of a royal family or government with tons of gold and crates of banknotes trying to smuggle them out of Nigeria , all they want is some bank account details

    there are hundreds of them, maybe thousands all over the internet in that unfortunate situation

    so for the sake of an account number, we can be sure that the SBS and tanker staff will be retiring to the sunshine soon !!

    (I tried to help but due to an understandable admin error I am now bankrupt and about to lose my home, but hey ho life goes on )

    and just think what it will do for our ailing economy when these poor unfortunate princes and ex government ministers arrive and start spreading their wealth !!

    So many boo boys on here they just cannot see the positives, its win / win in my view

    our hardworking special forces get a jackpot and we get some royalty on our shores to brighten up our dreary lockdown

    Get that red carpet out !


    • Fedup2 says:

      Darcy – not so long ago I won 10 million on the Nigerian State Lottery .
      I wasnt aware of this until a friendly chap emailed me from nigeria telling me and asking me for just a few pounds to deal with corruption in the country and get my prize .

      So i sent the £500 by western union together with my bank account and debit card details .

      Silly me i forgot send the pin but the nice nigerian man reminded me so i sent it .

      So dear reader – if you have a few hundred pounds to spare please send it to Fedups crowd funding page and feed a destitute moderator .

      More seriously can you imagine tje queue of immigration lawyers waiting to cash in on those terrorists …. ?


      • Fedup2 says:

        Its a word association game …

        Nigerian………… fraudster

        Muslim ………… terrorist


        • Darcy3 says:

          After trying to help various Nigerian Princes, a couple of weeks later I started to win quite a few Nigerian lotteries

          You would not believe the trouble I have had getting hold of the prize monies, sold my car to pay for the admin.

          Shame on you Nigerian lottery administration, buck your ideas up please

          And as for the visa problems with my beautiful Russian fiance…. don’t go there, poor thing, now her grandmother needs an operation, only weeks after her aunt needed a transplant

          she has had such bad luck, fortunate that I am here to help my princess, soon we will be together

          She is almost perfect in every way. except her memory, she keeps getting my name wrong, nobodies perfect though


          • Scroblene says:

            Some years ago, a great chum had a girlfriend who bought all sorts of overpriced stuff in Bond Street.

            He once asked her if she could get him a new pullover, so she went to some shop with a few in the window, and went for one she thought he might like. She also looked at a belt for – wait for it – £1,550!

            The bloke behind the counter didn’t tell her about the prices until it was nearly too late, so she got a bit cross when she was handed a bill for nearly £4,000. Luckily she noted that the jersey was only half cashmere, so gave it back, but the belt still stayed in the bag…

            Sometime later, she was chatting with chums, and discovered that that particular shop only catered for money, pinched from Overseas Aid, and spent every hour of the day by foreign ‘diplomats’, clearly parked on the double-yellows outside the shop! The shop only existed for such people…

            But this is Bond Street, so anything can happen there – if you have the dosh that is!


      • BRISSLES says:

        “….queue of immigration lawyers waiting to cash in on those terrorists ”

        and all will have names that are unpronounceable !


  38. vlad says:

    The lying BBC continues to ignore the 2 biggest stories in the world:

    1) The huge scandal around the crooked son of a certain crooked US politician.

    2) The huge scandal of the msm and social media doing everything in their power to ignore, block, censor and sideline the story in a thousand different ways.

    I myself have had posts ‘disappeared’ on Facebook Messenger for including links to the above stories.

    In their place Fb posted, verbatim:

    – This message was removed because it includes a link that goes against our Community Standards

    -This attachment may have been removed or the person who shared it may not have permission to share it with you.

    The links were, of course, to conservative-leaning sites. This is blatant election interference, and all Big Tech companies are brazenly complicit. The blogosphere is incandescent about the Orwellian censorship, yet barely a word on the Big Brother Corporation.

    If Orange Man wins there’ll be a mighty reckoning. If he loses it’ll get worse.

    Here’s Salty Cracker railing against the situation in his over-excited but entertaining way, if that’s your cup of highly caffeinated coffee.


    • Doobster78 says:

      You simply cannot begin to imagine the coverage if this was Donald Trump Jnr.

      No danger of censorship from the big tech companies / MSM then.

      BBC would be running it 24/7, Covid would take a back seat it this was DT Jnr.

      Sopel, Zurcher, Katty would be digging up every conceivable pice of dirt and tweeting it furiously.

      But strangely, although being USA based, although their only remit is to cover US politics and they can seemingly tweet anti Trump rhetoric at will, not one of them, NOT ONE, has heard about the Biden scandal.

      Isn’t that strange ?


  39. andyjsnape says:

    Top news story, “reported” to you by the bBC
    Hampshire woman organises world hula-hooping championship


    • Guest Who says:



      • Guest Who says:

        Meanwhile some ex-cricketing national PM is trying to get Facebook to do what the BBC has never needed asking.


      • G says:

        I don’t know the context but the victim is surely used to this treatment being a woman and muslim…………
        No solace from the Quaran

        All, “part and parcel” of living in a large mostly muslim city eh Mayor?

        Stonings yet to come


        • vlad says:

          Hatun Tash is a Christian apologist who frequently goes to Speakers’ Corner to expose the holes (literally) in the quran.

          She frequently receives threats of violence or death from the Religion Of Terror (I’m sure there’s an acronym somewhere there but I can’t quite put my finger on it).

          The soy police have given up defending free speech and just bundle her away when she’s attacked, ‘for her own protection’.

          Yeah, sure.

          Here David Wood (also continually threatened) talks about the incident in his inimitable way.

          PS. If the guy next to her is her bodyguard, it’s high time she got another.


      • StewGreen says:

        Prior event in House of Lords Set 16th
        Lord Pearson asked
        ” whether (Christian preacher) Hatun Tash was detained by the police on 13 September;
        if so, on what grounds; whether there are any restrictions in place on Hatun re Speakers Corner ..”

        Answered on 30 September 2020
        “We do not comment on individual cases”


    • StewGreen says:

      Anything else happen in Hampshire recently
      .. were it’s bases used for something ?


  40. StewGreen says:

    Korea vaccination programme not 100% successful
    48 have died so far.

    The context is not mentioned
    If you have 100 million people some will die randomly anyway

    If you’ve only given 500 the test vaccination
    then 48 isn’t a normal rate of deaths.


  41. Thatcherrevolutionary says: is where you find all the Hunter Biden stuff.
    Be warned, it’s graphic and lurid.
    I deliberately didn’t click on any of the videos, as there is a story circulating that they have sexual scenes of Hunter Biden with an underage girl.


  42. Doobster78 says:


    • G says:

      Fact is, whether we like it or not, the lawyers are just using the law which politicians created and/or signed us up to (ECHR/Euro law) and/or the UK courts have, ‘interpreted’.

      Ultra-liberal laws.


  43. Doobster78 says:

    Meet themselves coming back these virtue signallers !!!!


  44. StewGreen says:

    From April : About 5% of BBC’s charity income routinely comes directly from Gates
    It’s openly listed on the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation’s search box


  45. StewGreen says:

    @Taffman, when the Welsh government does adverts
    do they sometimes use people with Scouse, or Geordie accents ?
    Cos by diversity rules those accents are probably more common in Wales than non-white skin ?

    The England Covid advert just used a speaker who has a Welsh accent.


  46. StewGreen says:

    “Oh God, did the Prime Minister of Pakistan really tell Zuckerberg to ban criticism of Islam”


  47. Guest Who says:

    Stuart Hughes, we salute you!


    • dafydd says:

      As someone has already said, if it had been a white Shrewsbury Town footballer (example) would it have the same gravitas, of course not.

      More jaw dropping opportunism from the BBC.



    • Doobster78 says:

      My Facebook is over run with local companies and individuals signalling their virtue over this, it must give them a real warm fuzzy feeling … todays winner …..

      With the latest disgraceful news that free school meals will no longer be provided.
      Myself at *****; Fitness and the lads at ******Exhibitions, who share the same building, will be putting on a food bank for those in need. It’s uncertain times for many and no child should go without food.
      Any families who need that little bit of help are more then welcome to come and collect food parcels.
      We appreciate we have to be careful of the spread of coronavirus so all items will be sanitised and wipes will be left by the parcels for re sanitisation when collected.
      Come and collect a parcel, you don’t need to see anyone or say a thing it’s all confidential – we just want to help.
      We will put up a time and day slot when they can be collected over tomorrow he next week and the safety measures ????
      If anyone would like to donate also I’ll personally sanitise every item myself.
      Many thanks


      • Guest Who says:

        There’s a menu posted on our local FB forum.

        From the local chippy.

        Kids eat free.

        So mum blows £10 on her deep fried everything, and the darlings get a bread sausage and cone of chips.

        Meanwhile we again spent around £6 for four on home cooked and healthy.


  48. Nibor says:

    According to BBC news , the Prime Minister has “admitted” that he hasn’t spoken to Marcus Rashford since September.
    He hasn’t spoken to me either , at all ever . Does he have to admit that ? What about the rest of you , heard from the PM lately ?
    BBC , what is the criteria for who the Prime Minister has to speak to .?
    It’s just that I get the impression you think you’re the guardian of the gates to 10 Downing Street,.


    • digg says:

      Of course Mr Radford has the property of being both a modern day Saint and not white so there really is no excuse for Boris not to call him every day to see how he is feeling and what he thinks needs to be done.

      Anything else is an insult to both M.R. and the BBC.

      It of course comes with the added bonus of an opportunity for a full-on shit-stirring main story on the BBC website.

      Anyone would think that the BBC have a low opinion of Mr Johnson. All very school playground level stuff.


  49. Fedup2 says:

    Not BBC – but a Buying Apple tip .

    Last week i went to an apple shop in london to trade in my old ipad – which was valued on line at £250….

    I had booked an appointment . They examined my ipad and decided it was worthless ….

    I had done my research and amazon was selling it for £80 below the Apple price . So i told the nice apple lady this .

    She checked the amazon site and saw that what i said was true. So apple matched it . Then they found that the shop had no stock – but another London had it – i would have to go there and go through the whole process again .

    So i did .

    At the other Apple shop i explained the price difference . The apple chap said” we can go upto 10% “ and ten per cent amounted to £110 pounds . So i sort of ‘saved ‘ £110 of the list price .

    This seems to apply to all apple products …
    Just for your information ….


    • Deborah says:

      Last year I decided to enter the 21st century and replace my Nokia. As I had parked my car in the free Tesco’s car park and walked through their shop, I thought I would make enquires there. The very bored young woman told me that the identical iPhone would be half price at Argos. I actually didn’t bother with Argos either as it was half price at the nearby Carphone Warehouse. Buyer beware.

      But thanks Fedup, I hadn’t realised old iPads have value.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Deborah – I did substantial research as it was a big buy on a top of the range jobby —-as for the trade in – it’s on the Apple UK site – you just put the serial number in and general condition – basically whether it works or not…. if it doesn’t they’ll offer to ‘scrap’ it for you for free …. bit mean I reckon as they could at least offer a few quid for some charidee …..


  50. Roland Deschain says:

    Here’s a classic piece of BBC propaganda. Want to discredit anyone who thinks we don’t need lockdown? Find the most extreme, wacky example you can and imply they represent everyone.

    Meanwhile, unperson anyone such as Mike Yeadon who puts a good case that you can’t easily refute.


    • Dr Hans Vestheit says:

      Do you really believe she’s not a paid operative? Did you SEE her at Trafalgar Square (and all that followed…)


    • StewGreen says:

      Yes I think that MO is common
      “cherry pick the extreme, as a strawman
      and thus dismiss the whole field as Conspiracy Theory Nutters”