462 Responses to Midweek Thread 21 October 2020

  1. digg says:

    can’t be!


    • Scroblene says:

      Digg, well done!

      I was last on the previous series of posts, so according to Union rules, we are in fact equals!

      Sorry, but there it is, I don’t make up fake news, the BBC does!


  2. Darcy3 says:

    A CRUEL and depraved Bradford man has been jailed for three years for having sexual intercourse with chickens Rehan Baig, 37

    As they say, which came first the chicken or the Baig ?



    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      The blame for this must lie with white, British, people.
      If British undertakers had not locked their premises those, of a certain disposition, could have necrophiled ad libitum.

      I shall be founding a new charity “Poultry lives Matter”.

      In the Fawlty Towers episode “The Psychiatrist” The Cleese character has “enough material there for an entire conference.”

      No wonder these hominims get so upset about cartoons.
      There is enough, mostly depraved, disgusting and totally divorced from reality, material, in Islam, for an entire eternity.
      Who decided that it was a good idea to introduce these pathogens into the civilised world?


    • vlad says:

      You mean this gentleman?

      (The one on the left – on the right is his girlfriend.)

      “Rehan Baig and his wife Haleema had previously also engaged in sex with a dog and possessed images of the same. They were also in possession of almost 49 indecent images and videos of children being abused-including 11 which were extremely depraved and some featuring children as young as six.”

      Why does ‘six-year-old girls’ ring a bell?




      • Fedup2 says:

        Hell of a Hen Night —- coat —-exit

        Leading question … what did the lovely Haleema get ?


        • Darcy3 says:

          If he used a condom, will they be complaining about rubbery chicken in the local curry houses ?


          • Fedup2 says:

            Ha ha The cloak room will be busy with clients getting their coats ….

            …. and the remainers worry about chlorination ..


            • Lefty Wright says:

              I say, isn’t this thread in danger of becoming slightly risque?
              I’M OFF!! — to watch my Roy Chubby Brown videos bought for me as a Christmas present many years ago by one of my 4 sons.


        • Richard James says:

          A chicken kebab.


    • petebogtrott says:

      Gives a new meaning to KFC me thinks.


  3. andyjsnape says:

    Covid: London 10pm curfew should be scrapped, mayor says

    This implies that London is going into a curfew from 10pm, actually ONLY shutting pubs/clubs etc

    Talking of closing, any closer to closing/streamlining down the bBC??


  4. andyjsnape says:


    On the front page, before clicking the link this says “what the world wants from America” – This is from the bBC’s point of view, certainly not mine!


  5. Scroblene says:

    Fed, ‘A.Pedant’ says: –

    ‘It’s the 21st October 2020 today”….

    (I have to know this, as it’s Senora O’Blene’s and my (thankfully) 48th Wedding Anniversary today!

    As my comment on ‘Start the week’ still seems OK, I’ll pop it in here, just for good measure, like!

    R5 Dead’s night-time phone in was just a Boris stab-fest, with Andy ‘Mid Staffs’ Burnham being displayed as a saint by all those performing seals ringing in and our Prime Minister being displayed as a dolt.

    One wonders why a political moron like Burnham get to positions like Mare of a once-great city. He’s never had a proper job, just sucked in public money year on year since leaving school, so joins the new elite of mares like Khan who are commercially incompetent, and politically active to get their noses in the trough as soon as they can.

    I just cannot see why places need mares (sic), anyway. Why aren’t the elected leaders of the councils doing the work they’re paid for? Why aren’t the representatives of the councils getting out and actually working at getting their constituents a result, instead of sitting on their arrses and pointing their grubby fingers at all and sundry.

    The BBBC just love it when these posturing incompetents ‘seem’ to be getting the upper hand over our elected government, but only actually talk borrocks like 60s union leaders in a pay dispute.

    BBC autocue-readers will enjoy today, nobody takes much notice though.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Scroblene – thank you for noticing – at least I got other bits right – although I think I would have preferred writing 2022……and it was early …


    • Deborah says:

      Mr D and I watched Mr Belfield’s rant this morning on YouTube. Shall we just say we were quite surprised at the angle he took. He was asking if there was any point in mares (sic) if the government are going to overrule them. But this was all from the point of view of poor, hard done to Andy.

      I do wonder why there was a push to have local mayors. There was a drive by the Leader of Hull Council, Stephan Brady, to make the whole of Yorkshire into one area. This would mean that all ‘shires’ would be lumped in with the Labour run cities. Stephan Brady gives the appearance of someone who would have struggled to achieve an ‘o’ level in woodwork, I might add. And of course Look North gave him a lot of time to justify this idea of all of Yorkshire being run permanently by the Left. However from what it appeared via the BBC he was supported not only by the pseudo-Conservative leader of East Riding Council at the time, but also the likes of George Osborne.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Deborah, I was staggered recently to learn that some places have not just one Mayor to be supported by the taxpayer but two Mayors …. to be supported by the taxpayer.

        That’s gotta cost!

        Perhaps a side benefit of the aftermath of the Covid-19 inspired Pandemic will be a rigorous examination of expenditure and a clear out of unnecessary administration and administrators?

        Or will the need and desire to create job opportunities over-ride good financial ‘housekeeping’ and budgetary controls in order to create even more jobs at taxpayer expense?


  6. taffman says:

    It’s Trafalgar day.
    Let’s celebrate one of Britain’s greatest hero’s .
    Over to our “British” broadcaster…………………


  7. digg says:

    This astounds me!

    The BBC report some good news for the Arts sector in Northern Ireland….

    “Almost £3m of funding has been granted to individual artists as part of a support scheme operated by Communities Minister Carál Ní Chuilín.”


    The BBC either did not know or failed to mention a few details about Ms Chuilin…..

    Wikipedia: Carál Ní Chuilín


    Ms Chuilin appointed an assistant, a certain Mary McCardle

    Wikipedia: Mary McArdle


    My first question as a reporter would be, what are the chances of parts of this free money ending up in the wrong hands and eventually being used to do anything but support the Arts?

    I know the Irish often have a different take on life but just how bad does your past have to be before you are denied participation at this level?

    The old adage, a leopard never changes it’s spots!


  8. Roland Deschain says:

    The BBC is on a roll today. Well, it thinks it is.

    Shock, horror! International businessman holds a Chinese bank account.

    He’s tweeting at somebody. Oh, noes!

    I’m only a journalist, let’s not do any investigation as to where donations to BLM landed up.

    Meanwhile, on Hunter Biden’s emails…


    • Guest Who says:

      Given their obsession with masks, Katty posting this seems brave given your share about her fellow blonde at 60 Minutes.

      Maybe they are hoping they can keep that one quiet? #mediaomertarules


    • JimS says:


      Trump campaign has less money than Biden – Trump unpopular.

      Trump campaign has more money than Biden – Trump corrupt.


    • Up2snuff says:

      RD, even worse – Trump pays taxes! One of the NYTimes claims repeated by the BBC was that Trump paid taxes in China.

      Ha ha ha!

      Oh President Trump critics. Oh Amazon bashers. Oh Google critics. You boys took one hell of a beating!


    • pugnazious says:

      LOL…Trump signed a trade deal with China last january…..is the BBC totally mad? How is Trump Hotels having a bank account in China hypocrisy? He’s not against business with China just with American businesses moving their jobs there when the the work could be done in America….Hotels have to be in the country where the tourists are…no good building a hotel in New York for people who want to visit China….funny how the BBC can’t understand that.


  9. Peter Sausages says:

    Oh the joy if Trump wins, it would be on par with Hugh Edwards shell shocked face when Boris thrashed Corbyn


  10. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – their language is leaving me

    “Faked naked photos of thousands of women shared”

    My old English teacher in Secondary School would have had half a lesson on that one. 🙂

    Not so much “Let’s get nakﮟed” more a sort of “Let’s get fakﮟed” by the BBC.

    Fake Ed is what the BBC does best.


  11. Guest Who says:

    OT, but other media…


  12. AsISeeIt says:

    Yasmin Alibhai-Brown goes in to bat for the BBC this morning in the ‘i’ virtual newspaper defending what she sees as an unfair attack on the corporation: ‘The war on the BBC’

    Meanwhile Yorkshire cricket veteran Sir Geoffrey in the Telegraph squares up and pitches in with: ‘BBC swapped quality for equality, says Boycott’

    “Howzat?” It’s a difficult call – can we rely on our newsprint press to act as sharp-eyed umpire in this cultural battle over the preformance of our powerful national broadcaster?

    A quick peek at the front page of the Times this morning hints at which way the former Thunderer might lean: ‘Fair ladies: why women are the more objective sex. Women really are the fairer sex. They are also, research has found, the more compassionate too.’

    I’m sorry, Sir Geoffrey, looks as though you are going to be bowled out for a duck in any media battle of the sexes with the fair Yasmin.

    ‘I was groped by a celeb… but I’d never have taken it to court’ claims the equanimous Sarah Vine on the front page of the Daily Mail. And on the same page: ‘Stalker at my home terrified me, says Bond girl Naomie’ – what no back flips, high kicks or poisoned steel toecap to the crotch?

    If you seek ever more doom and gloom in your life and enjoy opening a newspaper in the way you enjoy opening a vein then the Guardian is definitely the organ for you: ”Scarred for life’ Fears of a lost generation. Young people reflect on their experience of the pandemic’

    Charlotte Lytton in the Telegraph wonders: ‘If millennials are fed up, what hope for Generation Z?’ – that’s something to do zombies, isn’t it? Mind you, if you’ve any experience with getting teenagers up for school in the early morning…

    The UK may be edging slowly ever closer to Brexit but it seems our national game is edging ever closer in the opposite direction of amalgamation with europe. The Telegraph has: ‘New push for Euro breakaway league.’ Seems five Premier League clubs – including Covid-restricted northern giants Liverpool and Manchester United – are looking not only to Remain but to more fully integrate English football with the continent.

    The Mirror would have us believe: ‘PM’s playing poker with the pandemic’ – or so claims Andy Burnham. Surely the Manchester Mayor’s holding out for extra cash in return for covid restrictions puts him in the guise of the poker player? Oh well, it is the Mirror and they do inhabit the lefty looking glass world.

    And in Tory news…

    The Telegraph tells us we can look forward to: ‘Asylum deal returns Bin Laden aide to UK’ – that’s thanks to David Cameron’s deal with the US.


  13. Sluff says:

    Our useless BBC gleefully highlight the disagreements over the Manchester tier 3 bailout.

    You say 60, I say 65.

    But no impartial report seems to have asked just how long the money is for.

    Is it 1 week? 4 weeks? Per week?
    Kind of makes rather a difference.
    Not hard is it?
    Except when BBC reports are for the sole purpose of undermining, and not informing.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      But there’s never an exit strategy for any new imposition. And no journalist ever asks for one, at least as far as I’ve seen.

      For a more optimistic outlook on where we are, check out this thread.


      • Loobyloo says:

        Thanks for that – very interesting and reassuring. With time, more evidence that ‘they’ aren’t telling us the truth and just manipulating us. Saving their backs? Not sure why else they would wantonly wreck the economy.
        Not sure I believe the great reset thing.


        • Roland Deschain says:

          Dr Yeadon goes into considerable detail here.
          It’s a long read but very worthwhile in my opinion. Interestingly it’s getting the Hunter Biden treatment in the media. I’ve seen no one explain where he’s wrong.

          In short, no one at SAGE has the necessary knowledge to realise when their models are spouting nonsense. The government has surrounded itself with the wrong advisors. My guess is that they’re too far in to back off gracefully now.


          • Banania says:

            What amazes me is the remarkable incuriosity of our brave investigative journalists, who swallow what the Government tells them about surges and spikes and masks without question. And they have steadfastly refrained from showing up at the big anti-lockdown rallies – were they not news?


  14. Sluff says:

    They were at it again on Toady this morning.

    With nauseating repetition, the latest BBC wheeze seems to be to dredge up a/any Labour council leader and ask ‘are you happy with the government’s Covid response/ financial offer for your area?’.

    The answer unsurprisingly is always, but always, No.

    I always feel so much better informed and educated after that.

    Or do I mean patronised and indoctrinated?


  15. Guest Who says:


    Time for bbc American BS to get a Vox pop?

    They could send out impartial ex-Newsnight Brexit roving reporter, Lord Nick of Silicon Valley out to conduct it.


  16. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Ladies day, again! Mishal on, again!

    I switched on in time for the 7.40 a.m. newspaper review and had the joy of listening to Lisa Nandy MP (Lab) having a good stir on playing politics with the Covid-19 virus pudding. The Labour Party have suddenly re-discovered the unemployed having ignored them for just over 23 years, nearly a quarter of a century.

    Stir up Sunday – only a month away.

    The Bishop of Manchester will be impressed and grateful for the advance notice.

    I switched off before Robert Jenrick MP (Con), Communities Minister, was interviewed because the TOADIES had to start with a ‘vox pop’ with unbalanced people saying “I support the Mayor”. I’m sorry I’ll read that again.

    The TOADIES had to start with an unbalanced ‘vox pop’ with people saying “I support the Mayor”.


  17. Guest Who says:

    Reptiles always find each other in the dark.


  18. StewGreen says:

    9am R4 Across the Red Line on @mrjamesob
    debating Roger Mosey.
    ‘Does impartiality impede good journalism?’

    James O’Brien habit is to project his own deep flaws onto others
    Opened by saying
    “We’ve ended up in such a mess
    An American President claiming you can inject bleach as a treatment for coronavirus”
    “or a ..Priti claiming that immigration lawyers are ALL activists & do gooders”


    • StewGreen says:

      Both O’Briens claims are MISINFORMATION from his his “2+2=5” thinking

      They went on JOBrian the ultra-misinformer
      just argued on
      “Antivax … & CC deniers both of which were horribly overrepresented on major platforms
      entirely cos of this BOGUS notion of impartiality
      You HAVE 90+% of the world’s Scientific consensus on one side of the Climate science argument and Change deniers ”
      He made out the skeptics side is secretly funded & other side not.*

      Then former BBC editor Mosely said
      “the science is 97%” certain
      FFS that is confused misinfo as well

      * Climate skeptic orgs do tend to keep donor names secret
      but that is cos Greenpeace etc. have a record of using intimidation, even showing up at people’s houses.
      The Green lobby like Greenpeace, WWF and vast $billion multinationals
      Funding for the Green lobby comes from a mixture of US legacies and Green Biz


      • StewGreen says:

        O’Brien”You HAVE 90+% of the world’s Scientific consensus on one side of the Climate science argument
        and Nigel Lawson and a few Daily Telegraph bloggers on the other
        and everytime you turned on Radio4 it felt as if they were equal and opposite parts of the same debate
        ..that cos i’s not actually impartiality ”

        JOB speaks so fast, there is no time to pick it apart
        people end up either accepting the whole lot
        or dismissing the whole lot

        See the way there he says that impartiality is giving 90% of the time to people he claims are TRUTH SPEAKERS
        that is wrong
        When the emperor has a new suit it is not impartial to give 90% of the time to suit-makers
        #1 The citizens have a right to time to question cos they pay for it
        #2 Tiny opinions like that of the small boy need to dealt with NOT IGNORED


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Stew – It is possible that I caught thirty seconds of this self-deluded garbage (9am R4), where someone was saying (for the sake of ‘impartiality’ or ‘accuracy’) how it is good bbc and ITV remain what they are and Sky should not hive off to become a ‘Fox’ news. Off switch.
      Was that the programme?
      I think we desperately need a Fox news for a semblance of balance, preferably an RSBN as well, and the immediate abolition of the beeb licence fee (obtaining money with menaces). An Australian Sky News would also be OK, they are way different from UK. Beeb is one HUGE social engineering and propaganda channel, like ITV and C4 ,where the SOCIAL ENGINEERING and RE-EDUCATION are the key functions. At the very least, they are solidly anti-government, which makes one wonder why government continues to allow them to rob us (and now the over 75s). The quality of what is left of ‘entertainment’ is now so low and third-rate, I suspect we are moving ever closer to Radio Congo Brazzaville, although the latter probably has fewer repeats.
      Their No1 objective is to portray the UK as a ‘multicultural’ nation in which the original Caucasian population makes up a constantly shrinking/decreasing half, or even third, of the population, as the ‘migrants’ move in and the established ‘people of colour’ take over the public discourse.


    • StewGreen says:

      One listener
      “Two lefties, both Remainers and man made climate mentalists rubbing each others backs ”

      Exactly and as I look at the Tweets the producers are under the illusion that people loved the show
      cos loads of James O’Brien supporters said the prog was great
      ..but it played to the Guardianlalaland bubbleworld
      People with actual sense switched off


  19. Guest Who says:

    What goes with popcorn this early?


  20. pugnazious says:

    You can only listen open mouthed as the BBC reports, or rather distorts, what is happening in Manchester. It is the most dishonest, misleading and one-sided narrative you are ever likely to hear.

    There’s Burnham essentially saying ‘Give us the cash or granny gets it’ and the BBC portrays him as a hero standing up to a heartless central government.

    Cummings goes on a day trip and the BBC tries to paint a picture of him driving up the motorway ‘crop spraying’ disease and infection across the country as he went, telling us Cummings crippled the government’s ability to impose lockdowns as he sowed distrust in the message [note Kuessberg brought up Cummings, not Neil Fergusson, during her interview with Sedwill…knowing his response would be negative…and dishonest…but what the BBC wants]….however, Burnham refuses to go into lockdown as the deadly virus strikes his city hard as he grandstands for political advantage and the BBC applauds him. This is the BBC that has spent 6 months denouncing the government for not locking down quick enough [did so at the same time as Germany] but Burnham’s delay for political advantage goes without critical comment…oh…well, other than to praise him….and again we have Kuenssberg ticking another BBC box with Sedwill as he says ‘maybe’ we coud have locked down earlier.

    The BBC’s northern correspondent, Dan Johnson, was on Today telling us that the government was unfairly demonising Burnham who was only doing what was best for the people of Manchester….no bias there then.

    Last night after the Boris announcement we were told by a BBC analyst that Boris had desperately dodged saying if the £60m was still on offer….erm…this was not long after the BBC itself had played a clip of Boris saying the money was still on the table.

    On Today we had Martha Kearney shilling for Burnham as she stepped in to defend him as Robert Jenrick criticised his actions….Kearney cut in saying ‘Let me explain….he’s not just playing one-upmanship…’…oh yes he is.

    She completely misunderstood what was going on claiming that the government had no national policy for payments…when of course they did…£8 per head…plus extra payment for different circumstances….she then raced in to say ‘ah…yes…but no plan for those extra payments…except of course there is a formula for that as well. Pure ignorance and desperate attempts to criticise the government.

    Kearney then attacked him because the lockdown measures would have a devastating effect on businesses and hit the poorest worst…..well yeah…but oddly that has never been the BBC’s concern before….but as Labour’s Burnham puts wealth over health suddenly the BBC changes tack….this was the BBC that demanded the harshest lockdown and when it came then demanded it go even further complaining that many businesses, like construction, were still operating and spreading the killer virus….and that schools should close.

    The BBC has never given a damn about businesses and jobs or indeed kids’ education and their future prospects….it was lockdown fever, they wanted it and they got it.

    When the inquiry about how this has all panned out let’s ask how much of what happened can be laid at the media’s door…the media that ramped up the fear with endless scaremongering and apocalyptic imagery whilst at the same continually trying to undermine the Tory government itself with astoundingly biased and dishonest ‘reporting’ such as from the BBC’s Panorama programme…not to mention Newsnight.

    How many people died because of the BBC forcing us into lockdown, how many businesses have been ruined, how many people have been dumped on the scrapheap, how many young people have had their futures destroyed unnecessarily, how will we pay for public services like the NHS, educaton, welfare when all the money is gone and there is vastly less revenue flowing into the Exchequer as businesses fold across the country?

    Just what damage has the BBC helped to wreak as it failed to do its job of holding power to account questioning if a harsh lockdown was the right approach?…instead of which it unquestionably attempted, successfully, to pressurise the government into one course of action…hardcore lockdown, and then used its domination and influence over the news agenda to keep that message as the only legitimate and credible one…all other voices critical of the lockdowns were portrayed as heretics and conspiracy theorists.

    The BBC has blood on its hands.


    • Guest Who says:

      Beff, in complement.


      • fakenewswatcher says:

        GW – I think we have been watching for the last few days, Burnham out to become the ‘King of the North’ (ably abetted by beeb) as he attempts to ‘recapture’ the region for Labour. Cynical exploitation of the ‘pandemic’ to drive the Tories out and undermine their election gains.
        BoJo was far too weak in response (as always); he should have exposed the reckless, self-promoting, money-grabbing project Burnham -king of the North, for what it is.


      • BRISSLES says:

        ANDY BURNHAM = Scott Tracy -Thunderbirds.


      • Doobster78 says:

        Jeepers creepers. Beth out of touch again !!!

        He is King of the North to Beth and the rest of the MSM.

        Up here, in the actual area, he is not overly liked at all, you only need to read the replies to her tweet to see that.

        Just more pathetic lefty bias. Its embarassing.


  21. Darcy3 says:

    Davis Attenborough says man is the most destrutive of all primates,

    well he’s obviously not driven through Longleat safari park in a Seat Alhambra


  22. tarien says:

    Of course its is encouraging to note that the numbers of the Covid Virus has dropped in certain arears-however I do not think no matter how anxious the Government may want to reduce infection rates, this virus will not disappear any time soon as they say. It is here for a while yet and with a population of over 70 million people on a small area of land, transmission of the virus is inevitable-The priority in this first instance should be to take care of the Vunerable and very elderly folk in our society and maximise efforts to ensure people generally follow common sence proceedures. Eventually immunity will reach into society and levels of being infected will drop away. Yes a vaccine might be found , but I think it will be some way off yet meanwhile the economy has to be No1 priority. Dread to think if not.


  23. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #2 – He’s gone native!

    Cheering from the BBC ranks, do I hear? Mark Sedwill former senior Civil Servant has spent too much time in the sun or too much money on The Sun Daily Mirror (and Guardian) and gone native as they used to say in India. He’s confirmed what many thought was the case; he and his senior colleagues are ranged (and raging?) against, firstly, Brexit and, secondly, a Conservative Government.

    Time to drain the swamp.

    The fact that Sedwill attacked Dominic Cummings was just a bit of a give-away.



    • G says:

      I would hope that once DJT is re-elected and embarks on the total demolition of the swamp communists, that might give Boris (if he’s still insitu) to grow some backbone and similarly deal with our own massive swamp.


      • Up2snuff says:

        G, I would hope so, too. They made a noise about doing just that early this year but Covid-19 was an interrupting factor all too soon. It is significant that various Lefties all see Cummings as the one to attack. They go for Bojo and Hancock, too, but not in the same way.

        I wonder if the PM would be really lost without Dominic Cummings organising him. I suspect so.


  24. pugnazious says:

    Utterly bizarre….in a normal world.

    The BBC heading ‘world news; with the stunning and shocking new that Trump has a bank account in China..holy shit Batman!

    Except of course ‘Trump’ doesn’t…his international hotel business does….and it was purely to pay taxes in China….so now he gets criticised for paying taxes when not long ago he was critiicsed for not paying enough taxes [never mind he actually aid millions].

    The BBC’s take on this is that this is so much hypocrisy…Trump criticises businesses for sendng work to China….thus he’s a two-faced liar for doing business there…except of course this was pre-2015 and it was hotels…no good opening a hotel in New York for people wanting to visit China…bit different to businesses like Apple opening factories there in order to exploit the cheap labour and low tax regime when they could provide jobs in America.

    Hang on….NYT…..January 2020…

    ‘Trump Signs China Trade Deal, Putting Economic Conflict on Pause’

    Sooo…Trump wants America to do business with China…just prefers American companies to provide jobs for American workers rather than export them to China…what a bad man. Odd how that deal doesn’t make him a hypocrite….coz of course he’s not.

    The BBC trying to whip up a sensational story about Trump having a bank account in China is utterly, utterly bizarre and beyond satire especially after having signed a trade deal with them.

    Then again so is the BBC’s attempt to, ironically, distort the truth about what is and what isn’t fake news….here it blames Trump for falsely claiming much of the media is ‘fake news’…


    No acknowledgement that Trump is fully justified in his assertions as it is estimated around 90% of the media is viscerally anti-Trump…and that includes the BBC which can never find a positive word to say about him and has led the world in making false claims about him.

    This BBC story about fake news is fake news itself…dishonest, misleading and biased.

    Fake news.


  25. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Has anyone noticed that the BBC publish libelous headlines and material but gets away with it?

    Yesterday the BBC published the following headline on their website:
    Denton and Reddish MP claims government hates Greater Manchester

    The story comprised the headline plus a copy of a tweet from “BBC Politics”. The MP in question is Labour MP Andrew Gwynne.

    Do we have any legal experts here that could comment – can we print what anyone says as a quote and get away with libel?


    • JimS says:

      Just as long as they aren’t ‘damn’ far-left?


      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        Hi JimS – I have also been noticing that the BBC are embedding tweets from activists on their website. Many of the tweets published on the BBC website contain libelous material as well as links to activist websites.


        • Guest Who says:

          Pure #1degreeofseparation cynical advocacy making a mockery of Fran and Timmeh!’s idiotic claims to be on top of this.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I hope i removed the right post and not the one with the cure for the chinese virus on it …


    • pugnazious says:

      LOL….Zurcher retweets this….

      And yet…hmmm….she’s an out and out democrat supporter who, on the record, hates Trump, her family is a big donor to the Democrats….and that’s her father in the picture with Obama not a journalist.


  26. vlad says:

    While the BBC salivates over the non-news that Trump may have a Chinese bank account, they are desperately trying to suppress Joe and Hunter Biden’s criminal and depraved shenanigans in China – along with the rest of the msm, social media companies and even the FBI.

    “Trump Set To Release Proof Of Hunter Biden Raping & Torturing Children In ChiCom Blackmail Scheme”



  27. pugnazious says:

    Astounding dishonesty….

    And here’s the BBC reinforcing the lies and backing the Labour narrative….

    Burnham was offered £22m….with an extra payment of £60m.

    To claim he was merely offered £22m is an outright lie.


  28. StewGreen says:

    BBC Still trying to convince everyone that the radical left is what we should consider mainstream.


    • StewGreen says:

      Same topic


    • JimS says:

      The only pronouns that ‘belong’ to a person are I, me, my and mine.

      All the others ‘belong’ to other people, in the same way as they should be free to use words like tall, short, thin, fat, smart, stupid, rich or poor from the observer’s perspective, not that of the subject.


  29. Fedup2 says:

    The moderator woke up confused and got the date of the thread wrong . This was noticed and rectified – but the moderator failed in his befuddled confusion to recall that this day is Trafalgar Day …. this too has now been rectified – Merci .. ….


  30. Darcy3 says:

    My suggestion to help the NHS:

    instead of lifting patients in bed on the count of three, do it on the count of two, speeding up the process by 33%


    • JimS says:

      They could stop copying US TV doctors and go back to putting stethoscopes around their necks instead of over their shoulders.

      (A Canadian medical journal published an article on this time-wasting practice some years ago).


  31. G says:

    Ivermectin again.

    Sky News Aus.


  32. G says:

    Steve Bannon and Seb Gorka, two people I have the greatest of respect for, discuss ‘the emails’ and much more. If you have time, well worth following the discussion:


    • Doobster78 says:

      Great stuff. Always enjoy Gorka.

      This Biden scandal is EVERYWHERE. Yet amazingly Jon Sopel, Katty Kay, Anthony Zurcher and the rest of the BBC haven’t heard a word !!!!!!! LOL.

      They are however over every piece of Trump news 24/7 no matter how trivial.

      They really are scum. Scum of the highest order.


  33. Mrs Kitty says:

    BBC bias by omission, I’ve just wandered over to the website and noticed unexpectedly as remarked on by Fed no mention of Trafalgar Day but also not one mention of the anniversary of the Aberfan Disaster. I shall type no more as I wouldn’t want to besmirch the memory of all who died that day.RIP


  34. pugnazious says:

    BBC just making up the ‘facts’

    Vicki Young tells that ‘perhaps’ the government wanted to pick off individual councils in Manchesterand force them to take anything the govt offered but decided this wouldn’t be good PR.

    No….bypassing an intransigent, political Burnham and sending money direct to the councils.

    LOL…just heard Barnett read out a text…we should be looking at people who break the rules not Burnham…perhaps we’ll look at this tomorrow she said.

    Hmmm….Burnham refuses to put millions into lockdown but an individual who goes to see their mum in breach of lcokdown rules should be locked up?

    As Barnett claims Cummings destroyed trust in the government’s message and is the cause of the second wave[yes really] don’t hold out much hope that we’d get a sensible critique of the desire to lockup individuals breaching the rules….maybe some we could lock up….


    • Doobster78 says:

      Have you noticed how all the Lefties are so keen to stick up for Gary.

      Jeremy Vine tells us it was just a mistake !!!!!! When any lefty does something like that, it’s always just a mistake, they are sorry and that’s that.

      Now cast your mind back to Stanley Johnson being pictured in a shop without a mask ,EXACTLY the same as Gary …………there was lefty OUTRAGE.

      Hypocrite s !!!!!!


  35. pugnazious says:

    Fast forward to 3 mins or so…


  36. StewGreen says:

    @RHarrabin just tweeted about that 9am show
    Impartiality 1
    : Slagged off last week by Charles Moore for saying we’re heading towards 3C warming
    there was nice feedback today from Across the Red Line R4, 0900 debate on impartiality: https://bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000nmcm @eciu @CarbonBrief

    Impartiality 2:
    Roger Mosey – “I was a serial employer of Roger Harrabin,
    so the notion that the *science of climate change* wasn’t a hallmark of the BBC doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.”
    James O’Brien: “Roger Harrabin’s an absolute paragon of his craft”.
    Thanks guys.

    Look how he works hand in hand with Greenblob PR guys @eciu @CarbonBrief* and includes them in his tweet.
    (Likewise Harra doesn’t do *science of climate change* he does PR of climate change)

    and his next tweet is a retweet of Simon Evans of ClimateBrief saying that
    It’s up to Charles Moore to “present credible evidence ..
    that we’re NOT heading towards around 3C of warming”

    FFS it’s upto alarmists to PROVE their case, not deflect
    .. by telling us to do the almost impossible of proving a negative

    * BTW (The 2 orgs work from a building packed with similar organisations probably sockpuppetry)


    • StewGreen says:

      BTW Harra is not exactly popular on Twitter
      His Twitter world is that of a small cult, there is no point in me confronting them as they are not up for listening but rather lash out like a school bully gang.

      @steve_niemiecguy just confronted them
      “There is no impartiality at the BBC regards Climate.
      You’ve closed the debate down completely and are not prepared to discuss or listen to other views.
      Now you are competing to see how extreme each report can become
      with very few being fact checked at all.
      Disgraceful journalism.”


  37. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    I would be grateful for peoples thoughts on the following BBC headline & story:

    Now the BBC have produced a narrative blaming Republicans and Donald Trump for a lack of a deal to provide financial relief in the wake of the coronavirus lockdowns:

    Yet a week ago there was a huge story on CNN where Nancy Pelosi said she was not going to accept the deal and many people have accused her of politicising the issue. The BBC indicate the Republicans don’t want a deal yet Trump has a deal ready for signing but Pelosi won’t sign it


  38. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    The BBC decide to play identity politics and turn Kamala Harris into a “victim” of the “patriarchal system”:


    The BBC is not a news information service. It is a 24 hours a day, 7 days a week campaigning organisation that pushes all forms of lunatic ideology and none greater than radical feminism. It is completely infantile and unprofessional and they are using the TV tax to run all of this.

    Our politicians must be made accountable for it as must the BBC.



    • Guest Who says:

      Does BBC American BS have a Butter Would Not Melt Photo Editor too?


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      BobotC – There is only one answer: to refuse the beeb their tax payment. And to pressure this useless government to abolish it! We need to nag them, nag them and nag them again; the squeaky wheel…
      Let beeb work for a living, in fair competition with others, like everyone else!
      As for Kamala, we all know why she’s where she is. Two reasons, and a record of achievement ain’t one of them!


  39. Guest Who says:

    Jon Snow been kept remote?


  40. Guest Who says:

    Easy to see why bbc staff like twitter RTs so much.


    I wonder if Caroline Mucus and JezBo are on the Vegetative Board down there?


  41. Sluff says:

    A propos of nothing….almost.

    For years I’ve found the USA often produce clearer and better and more open statistics on things than the EU and UK. And I have to say the UK is particularly poor, often explaining how the data was obtained and then forcing a wild goose chase than actually showing the data in an easy-to-read fashion.

    With that in mind, I was looking up Coronavirus co-morbidity data and chanced on this excellent source for the USA. The point being not the actual numbers, but the trends which are highly likely to be true for the UK as well.


    A very simple point in this data is that Covid deaths by age group are shown against total deaths AND the population of that age group. The ONS by contrast doesn’t do this so neatly. So death rates are given for age groups without any context.

    For instance, old people die of Coronavirus but then again old people die period.

    Meanwhile young people do also die and of all sorts of things. Sad but true. But its a small number. And the coronavirus death rate is only around 1% of that. How much of a problem do we therefore really have?

    Are you worried about dying of pneumonia? For the over 25s, death rates are about half those for Coronavirus. But are the preventative and publicity measures for pneumonia in that same ratio?

    I won’t got through it all but urge you to read it. You’ll learn more than you’ll ever get from the BBC.


  42. Sluff says:

    A propos of nothing….almost.

    For years I’ve found the USA often produce clearer and better and more open statistics on things than the EU and UK. And I have to say the UK is particularly poor, often explaining how the data was obtained and then forcing a wild goose chase than actually showing the data in an easy-to-read fashion.

    With that in mind, I was looking up Coronavirus co-morbidity data and chanced on this excellent source for the USA. The point being not the actual numbers, but the trends which are highly likely to be true for the UK as well.


    A very simple point in this data is that Covid deaths by age group are shown against total deaths AND the population of that age group. The ONS by contrast doesn’t do this so neatly. So death rates are given for age groups without any context.

    For instance, old people die of Coronavirus but then again old people die period.

    Meanwhile young people do also die and of all sorts of things. Sad but true. But its a small number. And the coronavirus death rate is only around 1% of that. How much of a problem do we therefore really have?

    Are you worried about dying of pneumonia? For the over 25s, death rates are about half those for Coronavirus. But are the preventative and publicity measures for pneumonia in that same ratio?

    I won’t got through it all but urge you to read it. You’ll learn more than you’ll ever get from the BBC.


  43. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    So there I was checking the BBC website for any evidence of a mention of the anniversary of the Aberfan Disaster that occurred today back in 1966. I looked in the Welsh news section and there was nothing. So I thought about checking in the the Welsh regional news sections. Now Aberfan is a village near Merthyr Tydfil in the South East of Wales. So I checked South East, South West and Mid news sections and there was absolutely nothing on it.

    However I spotted something entirely different hidden away in the South West Wales regional news section:
    Two arrested after ‘disturbance’ at asylum centre: Two men aged 22 and 25 are arrested by police and an investigation is ongoing.

    Given this was not headline news on the main webpages of the BBC and given these people were referred to as men rather than far right protestors I surmised correctly the incident involved the asylum seekers themselves.



  44. Deborah says:

    Our local BBC weather forecaster, Paul Hudson, last night promised us an accurate forecast.

    He then said it would be dry overnight and we would get rain about 8 a.m this morning and then rain for the rest of the day. It actually stopped raining by 8 a.m. and then we have had a brief shower about 3.30. but otherwise a grey mizzely day – but no more rain. Some of us are in weather dependent occupations and make decisions on our work after listening to Paul (and he is the one with qualifications).

    All the money the government gave the met office has obviously been wasted.


    • digg says:

      Hi Deborah, the BBC in fact dropped the Met Office a while back to go with the Meteo Group for their forecasts, The Meteo Group being an EU based organisation of course! HQ I believe is in the Netherlands.


    • StewGreen says:

      #2 I’m in Hudson’s area and his forecast was about right.
      Forecasts for rain tomorrow aren’t real forecasts
      rather they observe position of last night’s rain clouds by radar and run the model forward 12 hours.
      Since rain comes in pockets, they might all miss your area.


  45. digg says:

    For those who haven’t seen this and wonder how much more insane the luvvies at the top can get I bring you…


    The Arts Council have handed £212,305 to a solo black drag artist called “Le Gateau Chocolat” to help deal with the effects coronavirus has had on his income….

    Henceforth to be known as the Arse Council…..


  46. StewGreen says:

    4;30pm Big Tech Censorship
    Will Amol get to the truth ?
    Facebook and Twitter accused of censorship over *a tabloid story* about Joe Biden’s son.

    ..oh it’s just a tabloid story, is it ?
    Ah he’s saying it’s cos it’s in the @NYPost
    Guests: Brian Stelter, CNN anchor and author of Hoax: Donald Trump, Fox News and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth;

    Susan Ferrechio, Washington Examiner (hot the Post)
    Sara Fischer, Axios media
    Toni Cowan-Brown, podcaster and author



    • StewGreen says:

      I typed that 2 hours ago but I forgot to press send.

      Now I have listened the 3 Lefties tried to play the Biden laptop story down .. oh nothing to see , shouldn’t report, cos it was probably obtained ILLEGALLY

      But the Examiner’s @susanferrechio pushed back
      asserting the real world things
      The media will report any dirt on Trump, they never say “oh it might have been obtained illegally
      #2 The Big tech has incredible pro liberal bias
      I checked for tweets to Amol and Radio4
      and in fact there were very few.


      • StewGreen says:

        Susan’s push back against Liberal media is appreciated in the States
        and someone put up a clip of her vs Slater

        There many threads and loads of tweets as opposed to very little on the Radio4 threads for Amol’s show


    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Hi StewG, it is almost like the BBC have a special operations response team that sweeps into action to spread disinformation to discredit news they can’t hide and that goes against the BBC narrative.


  47. StewGreen says:

    Sarah Vine


  48. Doobster78 says:

    NHS staff with far too much time on their hands now everything has stopped for 20 people having runny noses in the borough !!!

    I mean, FFS !!


    • Northern Voter says:

      It’s to be hoped Laurence has private health insurance, otherwise he’ll be waiting a long time at his local NHS dance centre.


  49. Doobster78 says:

    What a waste of time and resources that was !!!!