Start the Week Thread 19 October 2020

Biased BBC busily running two versions of Project Fear – Brexit no deal and Covid Lock Down – meanwhile the BBC thinks President Biden is only a couple of weeks away …

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362 Responses to Start the Week Thread 19 October 2020

  1. taffman says:

    Well here we are again.
    The economy is being trashed under the lockdown . Will the NHS survive without the economy? Will all the the pen-pushers working for the NHS be made redundant before the Doctors and Nurses or will they retrain to become auxiliary nurses ?

    Will Priti live up to all her promises to deport all illegal aliens instead of booking them all in to 4* hotels ? Of course we know this encourages more and more to come ?
    I understand that the RAF has gone ‘woke’ and have moved from Brylcreem to dreadlocks, ponytails and plats in order to recruit more ethnics ?
    And Al Beeb is still robbing the poor to pay the rich
    BoJo knows that Al Beeb is pro EU but does not privatise it.
    Can anyone tell me what is going on with The ‘Tory’ Government
    Do we have a woke and libreral government.


    • StewGreen says:

      backlinks to previous thread
      page 3 started at 6pm on Sunday


    • The General says:

      Labour would like nothing more than the economy to be trashed. They could then take over, instal their Marxist idiology and the subjugation and control it involves while blaming the catostrophic result on the Torys. The field would be open to change and restrict our laws and liberty while they live in their privilaged bubble far above their ‘subjects’.


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Install their Marxist ideology and the subjugation and control it involves? Surely “Continue with the Marxist ideology and the subjugation and control it involves that has been introduced by the Tories, but turn it up a notch”?
        And in Surkerr, with his close connections to the security services and membership of the Trilateral Commission, they have a man that the powers behind the scenes can trust…


      • SheepUprising says:

        Hey, its enough to post once.


    • The General says:

      Labour would like nothing more than the economy to be trashed. They could then take over, instal their Marxist idiology and the subjugation and control it involves while blaming the catostrophic result on the Torys. The field would be open to change and restrict our laws and liberty while they live in their privilaged bubble far above their ‘subjects’.


    • The General says:

      Labour would like nothing more than the economy to be trashed. They could then take over, instal their Marxist idiology and the subjugation and control it involves while blaming the catostrophic result on the Torys. The field would be open to change and restrict our laws and liberty while they live in their privilaged bubble far above their ‘subjects’.


    • The General says:

      Labour would like nothing more than the economy to be trashed. They could then take over, instal their Marxist idiology and the subjugation and control it involves while blaming the catostrophic result on the Torys. The field would be open to change and restrict our laws and liberty while they live in their privilaged bubble far above their ‘subjects’.


  2. Mrs Kitty says:



  3. BRISSLES says:

    Just watched the BBC1 drama Roadkill (I like Hugh Laurie), and contrary to what I’ve been led to believe, – that our prison inmates are primarily black and Asian, but in the depiction of a women’s prison scene, the 60 or so prisoners were all white except for 3 or 4 non white. The legal team on the other hand were all non white. Just saying. The BBC really don’t like us do they.


    • taffman says:

      Propaganda. blatant, amateur and infantile propaganda.
      The people of GB can see through it. They have done for a long time. If you go into the pubs and inns of the ordinary people of Britain and listen the conversations of the ‘real people’ of the UK you will know that we are all of the same opinion.
      De-fund Al Beeb, its easy!
      Just Stop your payments to Crapita and get Netflix or similar.
      For more information see …………………..


    • Jeff says:

      Great minds think alike…
      They’re not even trying to be subtle. Every box tick in the bloody book.

      Horrible, snidey, far right Tory (FFS, if only there were some far right Tories!). Lovely, clever black, female barrister…possibly a lesbian. Equally lovely and thoroughly decent Asian side kick.

      Horrible Tory has been up to no good and is desperate to sell off the revered NHS.
      We had all of that bollocks in the opening fifteen minutes.

      The BBC don’t give us subtle and entertaining stories anymore.
      They give us political pantomimes for the hard of thinking.


  4. Deborah says:

    Thought I would watch some of the BBC1 10pm Sunday night news before the weather. Switched on to see a montage of 15 or so women talking at the same time about endometriosis. One was highlighted, a fitness trainer, needless to say she was BAME. Presentation was like a student exam piece. I assume it was supposed to make it more accessible to young people.


  5. taffman says:

    “Israel and Bahrain establish formal diplomatic relations”
    Another tick for President Trump ?


  6. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    The latest BBC anti-Trump headline:


    That’s right, according to the BBC if you vote Joe Biden Climate Change will be limited and the world will be saved. However if you vote for Donald Trump Climate Change will accelerate and the world will explode.

    The new director general of the BBC Tim Davie has been in charge since the start of September, yet there has been no change in the BBC propaganda. It actually seems to be getting worse.


    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      The following is a direct link to the BBC story:

      The article begins: “Who occupies the White House for the next four years could play a critical role in the fight against dangerous climate change experts say … Scientists studying climate change say that the re-election of Donald Trump could make it “impossible” to keep global temperatures in check…


    • andyjsnape says:

      Hi Broad
      The “inspiring” pic of Biden, with the fingers pointing

      Milk it up beeb, do you best

      Role on President Trump for re-election!


  7. StewGreen says:

    pm BBC1 “Roadkill: a thrilling new BBC drama about an evil Tory minister who wants to privatise the NHS.
    Good to see the state broadcaster ploughing an unexpected furrow and escaping from the shackles of its left wing prejudices…

    From David Hare, perhaps the country’s most prominent left-wing playwright and screenwriter.


    9pm BBC2 SamuelLJackson #Enslaved

    10pm Detroit : film about a 1967 raid where rogue officers killed 3 black teenagers
    thus sparking riots


    • dfhunter says:

      stew – have watched this – SamuelLJackson #Enslaved
      seems to more about diving for sunken slave ships than anything else/constructive with SamuelLJackson as a useful “star”


    • dfhunter says:

      stew – have watched this – SamuelLJackson #Enslaved
      seems to more about diving for sunken slave ships than anything else/constructive with SamuelLJackson as a useful “star”


  8. taffman says:

    “Dozens of migrants cross English Channel in 12 boats”
    No ‘Stricter Lockdown’ for em Eh ?
    France is getting rid of its ‘problems’?
    Consider what would happen if the situation was reversed?


  9. StewGreen says:

    File on 4 This afternoon : Prog about endemic VAT fraud in Leicester
    All the businessmen of course had Asian names.

    The 2 investigators set out to find the slaves
    but seem to have got sidetracked
    There was a mere mention of an east European worker who says she gets £7/hour but got £2.50/hr at the start
    FFS at the start you are training , you don’t get full pay.

    They recon 70-80% of the Leicester firms are running the VAT scam

    You get a £10K order from Boohoo etc. they then get a subcontractor to do it for £9K, and pay in cash
    But they use a created on paper company to do the paperwork , billing Boohoo £10K plus £2K VAT
    So your paper company has £3K in the bank
    You then put that money in your own account
    and after a year declare your paper company bankrupt.

    The thing is I think they said that some of the firms manufacturing for Boohoo are actually owned by the brothers of the BooHoo guy.
    Kamani family.


  10. Sluff says:

    How many more ideas can the eco-warriors and local council traffic Nazis dream up to try and guilt and castigate car users and be as hateful as possible?
    They’ve used safety, speed limits, build-outs, out-of-sync traffic lights, particulates, nitrogen oxides, global warming, scarcity of fossil fuels. Is there anything left ?
    Of course there is

    Hedgehog deaths in UK ‘as high as 335,000’

    Better just ban the car altogether, eh BBC?
    And use the saintly bicycle for everything. Family supermarket shopping, holidays, family visits to relatives, all irrespective of weather, numbers, distance. Cretins.


  11. StewGreen says:

    Over PC PCs


  12. Sluff says:

    The BBC yet again fail to join the dots. Some may think them inept, I rather think it is deliberate and insidious.

    On the front page of the webshite are these two stories

    France teacher attack: Rallies held to support beheaded Samuel Paty’


    Dozens of migrants cross English Channel in 12 boats

    Try as they might, the BBC just cannot quite work out a possible link. I wonder why.


  13. StewGreen says:

    9am Radio Amol with another anti-Trump how
    Fake news and data lies: how to win an election
    Amol Rajan discusses conspiracy theories and rogue data science with Jill Lepore and Richard Evans.”

    Jill Lepore looks back at how algorithms that were supposedly able to forecast and influence human behaviour gained huge currency in the 1960s, and what happens when they were allowed to develop unchecked.

    Sir Richard Evans is one of the world’s leading authorities on Nazi Germany. In The Hitler Conspiracies: The Third Reich and the Paranoid Imagination, Evans investigates key conspiracy theories that flourished at the time and still continue to arouse debate. Through painstaking research and evidence-based argument he reasserts the boundary between truth and fiction, and looks at why fake news takes hold.

    I can imagine them saying that Trump’s narratives are FakeNews
    and not the media’s Conspiracy Theories about Russia getting Trump elected.


  14. StewGreen says:

    Next Presidential debate coming up


    • tarien says:

      Often, in fact now mostly, I feel absolutely helpless in watching the way the world is heading driven by the Elite whose programme is to subjugate us all to their obedience-I now suspect from much around the world I have read that, the Covid virus has and is being used to spread fear and with it the compliance of the various public.
      Soon apart from what is presently being operated by those ghost faces, to watch us, to note what we are spending and where, to monitor every second of our day, (hopefully those private moments will remain off limits) but don’t bank on it! Anyway you’ve got the idea.


  15. ScottishCalvin says:

    I was once headhunted for a job in Paris. The irony.


  16. vlad says:

    BBC headline: ‘A senior Gulf royal is accused of an “appalling violation” after he allegedly sexually assaulted one of their employees.’

    How baffling that a member of a faith whose founder spent his life abusing women should… abuse women.

    Almost as baffling as that members of a faith whose founder ordered them to kill infidels should… kill infidels.


    • Guest Who says:

      BBC Moaning Predictable Emole


      ‘Je suis Samuel’

      Large rallies have been held across France to honour the teacher murdered in an apparent Islamist terror attack on Friday. Prime Minister Jean Castex told huge crowds in Paris the country was not afraid and would not be divided. Demonstrations were also held in Lille, Toulouse, Strasbourg, Marseille and elsewhere.

      Samuel Paty was beheaded after showing controversial cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad to his pupils during a class about freedom of speech. His killer, an 18-year-old man named as Abdoulakh A – who had no apparent connection with the teacher or the school – was shot dead by police.


      FYI, BBC, cartoons only become ‘controversial’ when made so by nutters backed by their media PR agencies.


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        And the BBC continue to use the intentionally misleading term ‘the Prophet Muhammad’. No. An acceptable term might be ‘the Muslim Prophet Muhammad’. He’s not a prophet to Christians, Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists or people of any other religious persuasion, or those with none at all. The BBC are indulging in the patronising deference that’s inherent in woke liberalism.


      • StewGreen says:

        France beheading
        \\ As I understand it, the teacher asked if anyone was Muslim, told them what he was going to do, and asked students if they wanted to leave. Muslim boys left, girls stayed.

        He then showed the class, as far as I understand it, the ‘Danish cartoons’ and some Charlie Hebdo cartoons. //


  17. taffman says:

    Before I clock off , I understand that the UK’s archbishops are getting involved in the politics of Brexit. Since when were they voted in ?
    Anything on Al Beeb , or are they still in bed ?


    • digg says:

      I also noticed that Taffman, it’s a bit like your GP telling you how to service your car!

      The simmering bile of the liberati crowd is almost a cult now. I wonder if this holy response was in fact triggered by some loaded questions put to them by a BBC-ite.

      Such as “Mr Welby, do you agree with the Government breaking international law?”

      In fact there is not really such a thing as international law, there are only agreements. If there were such laws, the UN would be moving in troops for instance to halt the white genocide in South Africa for one!


  18. AsISeeIt says:

    Our liberties are bought dear and sold cheap. Looks as though our liberal press are more than happy for our liberties to be taken away, just so long as the bribe is big enough. The Times leads with: ‘Millions for Manchester to buy off corona revolt’ The giveaway newspaper the Metro appropriately features a picture of a plaintive-looking Andy Burnham looking for a feebie and in opposition to a constipated-looking Michael Gove: ‘We need help… Burnham calls for Commons to break the impasse…’ or as they might say in football – it’s going to be begging bowls (rather than handbags) at dawn.

    The FT warns: ‘Europe’s second Covid wave raises threat of double dip recession’ – and, mind you, not a scare quote in sight in that headline. Take note BBC. So much for our wealth.

    The Telegraph wakes up the damage that covid mania is doing to our health: ‘”Protect the NHS” leaves patients paying the price. Effects of covid advice laid bare as hospital admissions for serious illnesses fall by up to 90 per cent’ – the slogan “Protect the NHS” is quite rightly put into scare quotes in that headline.

    The Times notices: ‘Exodus of male teachers leaves boys without role models’

    No such discouragement for the girls these days. Well, you do have to laugh and here’s: ‘Our laugh story’ in the Mirror (but also in the Express) ‘Julie Walters on her amazing friendship with Victoria Wood’ and there’s a huge photo of BBC stalwart Jenni Murray on the front page of the Telegraph: ‘Dame Jenni Murray will appear on ITV’s “The Real Full Monty on Ice” – please, no.

    The Telegraph also features: ‘Spy agencies want leak suspect charged’ – this is the fallout from the publication of anti-Trump sentiments expressed by the UK’s ambassador to the US and there having been leaked by a civil servant. Hmmm… what would James Bond do? Or even George Smiley? Methinks they wouldn’t just have an impotent moan about it in the papers.

    Today’s most apocalyptic weather forecast comes in the Daily Star: ‘Whiteout 15 days of snow and storms 500 mile “Atlanic Vortex” sparks half-term hell’ – phew!

    Today’s most pointless empty gesture newspaper campaign comes in the Daily Mirror: ‘Remembrance Sunday we stand with you. All party leaders back Mirror campaign for a national two-minute doorstep silence’

    What politician in their right mind wouldn’t swap two hours looking gum standing about in the autumn chill grasping an unwieldy wreath, for a quick two minute job at the front door posing for the clip to go on Twitter?

    The Guardian does a little cultural appropriation of Austaralian Aboriginal culture with its headline: ‘”Boomerang” offspring are here to stay as prospects evaporate’

    The favourite newspaper of our teachers had to say something about what happened in France the other day to one of their own. They are most careful in their highly neutral headline concerning the latest islamist terror outrage in France: ‘Paris attack. Huge march of solidarity after murder of teacher’.

    Should he have shown those cartoons to his pupils? The Left tend to say no, it was a mistake. It was offensive. He should have known better. He should have moderated his right to free speech.

    From cartoons to Carton. For some reason I’m reminded of the words of a fictional character who lost his head in France. Dickens’ Sydney Carton: “It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.”

    Our liberties are bought dear and sold cheap.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Thankyou – in a proper country the papers would all publish cartoons of the false prophet out of ‘ solidarity ‘ and to show non muslims will not be intimidated ….


  19. Eddy Booth says:
    Anti-Trump TikTokkers not declaring paid content.

    “TikTok has removed a number of videos after a BBC investigation showed creators were posting anti-Trump material without disclosing that they were paid for by a marketing company.
    Potentially millions of young TikTok users will not understand that some of the fun, quirky skits they are seeing are being paid for or supported by political interests.”

    The least anti Trump story ever on the BBC?
    But if young voters don’t understand that they might be targets of paid propoganda, then perhaps they are not ready to have the vote, that or the BBC patronising them here.


    • Guest Who says:

      Those billions funnelled through BLM getting ‘invested’?


    • Guest Who says:

      This is actually hilarious.

      As is who is in complement.


    • StewGreen says:

      @Eddy, I have been tracking how Dems seemed to be gaming the Twitter “Suggestions for You” section
      Each day in the Science list, 3 of the 5 would be pure anti Trump politics, or Global Warming politics.

      but in the last 4 days the list has gone back to normal science.


    • tarien says:

      This so called British Broadcasting Corporation really does hate the President of the USA, mainly I suspect because he is not a political animal and can’t be bought for $’s-they also hate the Christian white majority British subjects, also hate anyone who speaks out against the invasion of so called immigrants rushing onto our shores, in fact absolutely hates and loaths members of any progressive organisation that doesn’t run with their duplicitous outlook for the UK. Do they the BBC ever take the time to look at this site to see what the opinions are that we have of them? No suppose not, too caught up in their petulant and malcontent with every thing British. Nigel Farage for next BBC Chairman!!!


  20. Sluff says:

    Aslt mentions ‘Europe’s second covid wave’

    I was looking through worldometer last night and the UK per capita is far from the worst in Europe.

    True. Germany has again very low (suspicious?) levels. But Benelux, Poland, Italy, France etc etc are all very high and all have subtly different ‘solutions’.

    But there is little international travel just now, so how come the countries are rising in parallel? Is it as simple as schools and Unis going back and the colder weather? Nothing from the BBC on any of that when government embarrassment is the top priority.

    We don’t know anyone among our contacts in favour of a national lockdown. Boris’s pick-and-mix looks messy and opens him up to charges of inconsistency and endless political attack, but it’s not that far from other country approaches and is probably the best of a bad job. Providing people and businesses stick to the rules, of course.
    With apologies for being boring.


  21. StewGreen says:

    9:45am R4 A Somali migrant reads his autobiography about how he made it to become a barrister.
    (continues everyday this week)


  22. Deborah says:

    I didn’t watch Strictly on Saturday night – actually I gave it up a couple of years ago and have not regretted it. But I read Jan Moir’s review of it today on the DM website which had very short clips of some of the dancing. I can tell you that Caroline Quentin will be out very soon (frumpy dress and makeup making her look like a grandma; Jackie Smith (Labour) will last longer – in flattering clothes making her look younger. As for who will win if at all possible, but will last in the show for as long as the producers can fiddle it, the black boxer.


    • Guest Who says:

      Jackwiee still looking like a VD cosplay too?


    • BRISSLES says:

      Well if nothing else, the black boxer has had far and away the most publicity, but after the initial ‘record breaking’ audience for the first edition, I think it will slip away. As you say, Deborah, the winning outcome is inevitable – black / lesbian / first same sex couple – job done. How the Strictly team will cope with a non-binary person – which will surely come – remains to be seen, lol !


  23. Mrs Kitty says:

    As this week is starting I just wanted to thank everyone who post on here, as I live in France and have very little access to the BBBC I rely on on all of you to highlight the bias. Thank you so much for enduring the drivel and bias #DEFUND THE BBC.


    • Old Goat says:

      I live in France, too, and make a point of avoiding the BBC like the plague – and Sky, Channel 4, etc. They are all available to me, should I wish to indulge. I don’t.

      You can get all your (largely accurate) news on line, via a huge variety of outlets.


  24. pugnazious says:

    For interest and a more informed and rounded debate….

    ‘If, like me, you’re sure that the pandemic, as a ghastly public health event, is nearly over in UK, you will probably be with me in sheer astonishment and frustration that SAGE, the Government and 99% of the media maintain the fiction that this continues to be the biggest public health emergency in decades. ‘

    ‘Dr Mike Yeadon has a degree in biochemistry and toxicology and a research-based PhD in respiratory pharmacology. He has spent over 30 years leading new medicines research in some of the world’s largest pharmaceutical companies, leaving Pfizer in 2011 as Vice President & Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory. That was the most senior research position in this field in Pfizer. Since leaving Pfizer, Dr Yeadon has founded his own biotech company, Ziarco, which was sold to the worlds biggest drug company, Novartis, in 2017.


    SAGE made – and continues to make – two fatal errors in its assessment of the SAR-CoV-2 pandemic, rendering its predictions wildly inaccurate, with disastrous results. These errors led SAGE to conclude that the pandemic is still in its early stages, with the vast majority (93%) of the UK population remaining susceptible to infection and that, in the absence of more action, a very high number of deaths will occur.

    Error 1: Assuming that 100% of the population was susceptible to the virus and that no pre-existing immunity existed.
    Error 2: The belief that the percentage of the population that has been infected can be determined by surveying what fraction of the population has antibodies.

    Both of these points run entirely counter to known science regarding viruses and to a significant amount of evidence, as I will demonstrate. The more likely situation is that the susceptible population is now sufficiently depleted (now 28%) and the immune population sufficiently large that there will not be another large, national scale outbreak of COVID-19. Limited, regional outbreaks will be self-limiting and the pandemic is effectively over. This matches current evidence, with COVID-19 deaths remaining a fraction of what they were in spring, despite numerous questionable practices, all designed to artificially increase the number of apparent COVID-19 deaths.’


    • Sluff says:

      Very interesting article.
      My simplistic gripe about SAGE is that none of them have any skin in the game.
      All public sector with rock solid job security, on full pay and pensions.
      We could be in lockdown for months and they would be themselves barely affected, just putting their money in the bank or paying off the mortgage early, as foreign holidays are out.
      A broader range of non groupthink opinion would be most welcome.
      It is just possible that Boris has twigged this intuitively but lacks the scientific grounding to challenge them with sufficient self-confidence.


  25. Guest Who says:

    Wonder if Timmeh! ever does a Young Mr. Davie down in the W1A gardens.

    Hitting copy and paste keys all day must be demoralising.


  26. andyjsnape says:

    Surely we must be really close to closing or certainly streaming down the current bBC

    “Last night of the bBC” would be good, maybe the beeb could broadcast it, we could all sing Land of hope and glory or my favourite Rule Britannia 🙂


  27. fakenewswatcher says:

    ‘People like us’, by Hashi Mohammed, is the Book of the Week on the now almost entirely propagandistic R4.
    At 29, a lawyer in the UK, this Somalian ‘refugee’ does not show any signs of gratitude, but merely a litany of whingeing and complaints, including about middle-class and white privilege.
    He came out of poverty. So did I. His parents did not take him to museums etc. to give him that rich cultural experience. Nor did mine. He was bored during the holidays as there was only football and games. I had only the football; this was before electronic games.
    But I wasn’t bored as I got into books and read a lot. I had friends who helped me get into scouting (white privilege?) I got no pocket money, so worked, packing shelves. I worked as a sales rep in the day and as an English teacher at night to get into Uni, and spent many, many years paying off the loans afterwards.
    Now I listen to ‘victims’ who became ‘refugees’ and actually landed with their bums in the butter. I too lived in a damp, rat-infested dump, and -what’s more, it wasn’t given to me by the council; I had to pay for it.
    I am nevertheless grateful for the opportunities the UK has given me in an age where you had to take the initiative to better yourself, to work hard, to expect nothing on a silver platter, to DEMAND nothing.
    People like me are white, however, and -given the current obsession with ‘migrants’ ,I fear that white, working class youngsters – especially if they are male- are now losing out, and indirectly ‘being punished’.


    • pugnazious says:

      Yep FNW…that’s the problem…most of the blacktivists have no idea, or don’t care as they press their points, that white people have exactly the same problems or experiences. Most people, of all classes, don’t have this imagined endless and vast rich cultural experience that he thinks is his right and that all middle-class whiteys get. Most people probably went to school, came home, watched some telly, played with their mates and did it all again the next day…with a very rare trip to somewhere out of the norm….unless you live in London you’re not going to see all those museums more than once in all likelihood.

      When the BBC wheels in the Afua Hirsches[not just her initials she shares with Hitler] and they complain about being asked where they come from or people want to touch their hair…it’s just normal…everyone is asked where they come from and if they had unusual hair it’d get commented on….gingers for instance….grow a beard and check the comments. They then complain that no-one is interested in them…but when they do show interest it’s racism…’othering’ them. They don’t want people to mention their blackness and yet they want to be ‘Black’ and for people to recognise their ‘uniqueness’ and be treated differently…..want you to recognise and acknowledge their African heritage but, er, just don’t ask where they come from.

      A while back the BBC wheeled in yet another of these people who decide that the race industry is a goldmine that never stops giving….Amanda Khozi Mukwashi who has written a book…‘But Where Are You Really From?’…channelling her anger and frustration that white people ask her where she is from….however…her own biog on the Christian Aid site where she is CEO[Blacks are never in the top jobs are they?] tells us….

      ‘Born in the UK and of Zambian heritage, Amanda is a committed Christian and member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church.’

      That’s so racist mentioning her Zambian heritage.

      Black History Month should be targeted at informing Blacks more about how Whites live and what their experiences are rather than lecturing Whites about how brilliant Blacks really are….thus they might find out that what they insist is racism is in fact part of normal everyday life for whites…asking where you come from is not racist, being interested in your hair or how you look or your culture or clothes is not racist. It’s normal interest and life.


      • tarien says:

        Furious that such a programme should be given air time. What history do they have? All based no doubt on slavery as from the 17th Cent, nothing I suspect will be shown as to how the black people sold their own into slavery to the arab traders a few thousand years back and still continue to do so. What have the actually done to enrich society? What have they invented, produced or via their own efforts manufactured that has helped the world?
        They are the tribe that accuse all whites of racsim and yet they are the biggest recisits in all they do-yet now, every advertisement, every TV programme shows an even number of black people-they are well served as a minority.


      • BRISSLES says:

        Pug, this business of ‘where are you from’ will never end while the UK is predominantly white. Its in the psyche of everyone around the world of having an image of who lives where. e.g. black people /Africa, blonde blue eyed / Scandinavia, latino / Mexico, S.America, nicely tanned / Italy, blue eyed flat skulled or heavy set dark features /Eastern European. The Uk – white. U.S.A / black and white. India / brown . Australia white/aborigine.

        Or am I wrong ? Admittedly people are now living everywhere, but in the main when we have communities who identify as British Caribbean or British Muslim, then its hard to think of them as hardcore ‘British’ that most of us have grown up with.


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        As a rather cynical and naughty acquiantance of mine said: Not so much a case of ‘where are you from?’, more a case of ‘where will you be going back to?’


      • Deborah says:

        Jewish people always ask a Jew they haven’t met before, ‘Where are you from?’ It is usually followed by, ‘Do you know x who lives there….’

        And many others do the same. You meet a new person and you think you hear a Geordie accent, and you have lived in Newcastle, you might well ask, ‘where are you from?’ It isn’t a racist question but just trying to find some common ground from where you can chat.

        If a black person wants to find something racist, they can. But what they are doing is separating themselves from the rest of humanity. I want to treat everyone the same. Pity those black people who don’t want that.


        • G says:

          “…… trying to find some common ground from where you can chat.” Yes, absolutely, that’s the crux. But few “Diversity” advocates understand that the normal average Brit, can share nothing with the savages the Government imposes on us – daily.


    • BRISSLES says:

      Sadly Fake each generation has its own definition of ‘poverty. My Granny born in 1899, and the eldest of 13, slept head to toe with her siblings and had bread and dripping for breakfast. My parents, born in in the 1920’s endured their upbringing in the war years. I was born in the late 40’s and only had presents at Christmas and birthdays, and new clothes once a year at Whitsuntide when Mum would get a new Provident Cheque that she paid off through the year.

      The poverty that the past couple of generations have ‘endured’ my Granny wouldn’t recognise, despite food banks in existence, the latest mobile are in evidence and a good tele on the wall !


  28. pugnazious says:

    Labour’s latest stance is the real Old Socialist labour…better Red than Dead….they won’t impose a lockdown which is designed to protect people and keep them alive unless they get the money….playing politics with people’s lives in order to try and win back the Red Wall….rather you die than you vote Tory.

    Curious how they demanded local control of local lockdown decisions a very short while ago telling us central control was bad, and now they say local lockdowns don’t work and want to impose a national lockdown…imposed by central government.

    Shame Nick Robinson didn’t get around to ask Labour’s Sean Fielding about that contradiction…..for example Burnham is refusing to impose the local lockdown, because they don’t work he claims, and yet not long ago he was urging his citizens to stay locked down and not go out enjoying life as the government lifted some restrictions….

    ‘This morning, Burnham described the lifting of restrictions in Bolton and Trafford as “completely illogical” and urged residents of those areas to ignore government advice and follow restrictions instead.’

    Labour’s approach is shambolic, shifty and, so far, unchallenged by the BBC which fails to question their two-faced approach.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      pug- I can’t help the sneaking feeling that Burnham is using his Manchester base to turn the pandemic into a point-scoring (and money -making) exercise for the Labour Party. It further serves a third purpose in being seen to split the Tories.
      I’m not sure how much Surkeer will like this sudden pop-upstart of what could easily turn out to be a challenge for the Labour leadership in the medium to long term! But Burnham has found himself on a solid wicket; if the Tories don’t dock-up (blackmail?) they could easily lose the progress they have made ‘in the North’. And Burnham the Bruiser/Brawler will then be looking like a better bet for Labour than the oily, suit-clad, second hand car salesman, they currently have in charge.


      • pugnazious says:

        FNW…definitely all politics…trying to win back the Red Wall by grandstanding…..though some might raise an eyebrow that he is so ready to exploit the population of Manchester as the ‘necessary murders’, the sacrifices [if he really beilieves C9 is that lethal] necessary for his career. If he believes that Covid19 is so deadly he would impose the lockdown regardless….but there he is holding out for the cash…….isn’t that what the BBC always tells us is so terrible about the US health service…need to flash the cash before they’ll treat you?


  29. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    According to Joe Biden you’re not black if you vote Trump. The racist BBC won’t be reporting any of the following:


  30. LastChanceSaloon says:

    No BBC content whatsoever. Only takes one minute to read.
    The Haymarket affair was an anarchist meeting where a bomb killed eight US police officers.
    Wikipedia articles are accompanied by “talk” pages.
    Talk pages are frequently where the Commies decide how they will justify removal of material they do not like.

    The following is one line from the link.

    “The article is fine as it is. Why do right-wingers always want to re-write history THEIR way?”


  31. Doobster78 says:

    Not BBC but Channel 4 tonight ……

    Trumps Covid Catastrophe: Two weeks before America goes to the polls, Matt Frei investigates President Trump’s policies and performance during a pandemic that has cost over 200,000 American lives.

    SHOULD BE GOOD ….. NOT !!!


    • StewGreen says:

      Yes Id already marked it up in the TV guide
      cos it is outrageous loaded wording and framing


    • StewGreen says:

      The Channel4 hit piece on Trump

      interesting you donate to WWF to save the animals and they use it to buy adverts in that Channel4 prog
      working alongside the prog to build a false narrative that a trade deal with Trump will bring dangerous food standards to the UK
      ..even though Tories have always promised that any deal will ensure no substandard food is brought into Britain.


  32. Doobster78 says:


  33. StewGreen says:

    On Ofcom censoring Covid reports
    by stating that not conforming to government policy lines is misinformation.

    There is a discussion in the comments of this article
    which is based on this tweet thread


  34. pugnazious says:

    Political affiliations should get protection under law from discrimination….not something the BBC would agree with as it relentlessly targets Tories, Trump, anyone opposed to mass immigration, the EU and abortion….and anyone not fully on board with BLM or any other issue the BBC decides its own views on are the only ones to be allowed such as on 5G or the dangers of the Coronavirus.


  35. StewGreen says:

    Re Inflating Covid numbers thru poor NHS procedures
    Your granny gets the flu ..gets taken to hospital
    What do they do ? They put her in the red zone, the Covid ward and give her a Covid test
    After 48 hours test comes back … it’s *negative*, so they do the second test
    While they are waiting for the results she shows clear Covid symptoms
    .. what’ happened is that she’s caught Covid from the Covid ward.

    BTW here’s a clip from The Age UK woman talking about the effect of lockdown on pensioners
    “It’s a fast forward button on aging”


    • Fedup2 says:

      There have been a number of ‘public ‘ cases of hospital wards giving non virus cases the virus through bad hygiene and transmitting NHS staff . I saw that figures say there has been a 90?% yoy reduction in admissions – can you blames anyone ?

      But what are those 1.7 million NHS employees doing?


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        ‘But what are those 1.7 million NHS employees doing?’
        Based on my local hospital, I would guess that most of the nurses spent lockdown having pie-eating contests.


  36. The General says:

    I can’t believe how out of touch I have become, however I have just come out of hospital and consequently have had lots of time to watch TV documentaries, TV advertisments and public information items. What I now know but did not realise is that nowadays white women do not marry white men.


  37. The General says:

    I can’t believe how out of touch I have become, however I have just come out of hospital and consequently have had lots of time to watch TV documentaries, TV advertisments and public information items. What I now know but did not realise is that nowadays white women no longer marry white men.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Congratulations on getting out of hospital . I hope you are ok – as with Halifax who reported that he has the Chinese Virus last week .

      I’m not a user of the MSM /BBC at the moment but am thinking of returning to it and treating the whole thing as a kind of sick comedy – or a game show where you can play

      Spot the white man
      Spot the hetero
      Spot the dog ….

      It a game for all the family – not that the family unit seems to be what it was ….


  38. Guest Who says:

    bBc copies.

    bbc pastes.

    Job done.


  39. Philip_2 says:

    “Yesterday marked 98 years since the formation of the BBC. A lot has changed since 1922 – the presenters of the roaring twenties wouldn’t believe that today’s “stars” (See list: link) – would enjoy salaries in excess of £1 million.

    Since September nearly 7,500 people signed our petition calling on the Beeb to put an end to these sky-high pay packets. To mark the BBC’s 98th birthday TPA staff visited Broadcasting House to hand in the signatures”. (see video). Spread the word on other media…


  40. StewGreen says:

    Hull story seem as bad as George Floyd
    “Police spent just nine minutes searching for woman who froze to death in cemetery in Hull”
    The 56 yo woman had just over the legal alcohol limit had cycled in the heavy rain through the cemetery in the afternoon and fallen off her bike and lay there with an injured leg.
    A guy found her and tried to help. He had no phone and ran to the street and then home to phone the police.
    2 police were sent out but they said said they couldn’t find her.
    A dog walker found her body the next day.


  41. StewGreen says:

    Are UK deaths out of control ?
    Nope they are running about average
    Red bars is 2020 : you can see the first Covid Wave
    Green bars is 2018 : you can see the start of the year had a flu wave and then it stabilised.

    BTW raw deaths is not good metric, cos a young person dying is not the same as an old person dying.



  42. StewGreen says:

    Bolton MP : I wonder if you was at any large Muslim events like funerals ?


  43. Guest Who says:

    It’s in their nature.

    Also means to cover who is trying to drive it endlessly.


  44. Roland Deschain says:

    You up for rebellion yet, Taffman? My worry is that Wee Nippy will feel the need for some oneupmanship. Now, where did I put that claymore?


  45. Doobster78 says:

    Bang on the money this article . Echoing the comments over the weekend on here.


  46. Doobster78 says:

    LOL .. he is right tho … 6pm, 10pm, 6 people or 7 … the Virus KNOWS !!!


  47. StewGreen says:

    Neil Hamilton was on TalkRadio at 13:23pm


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