362 Responses to Start The Week 12 October 2020

  1. G.W.F. says:

    BBC news tonight, more shots of beer glasses being filled and people in pubs trying to cope with restrictions on alcohold.
    I assume the scientific advice is coming from the top.

    ‘“O you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, idolatry, and divining arrows are an abomination of Satan’s handiwork. So avoid that so that you may be successful.’


  2. Guest Who says:

    One for BBC American BS? They like questions.

    Why is every single debate moderator a liberal journalist?



  3. StewGreen says:

    Local BBC news
    Government throws £4.7m at local arts businesses.


  4. fakenewswatcher says:

    Beeb is treating us to another Prime Time propaganda piece at 7.30 (Panorama)
    Rianna Croxford, so we know exactly what political line is going to be pushed. Don’t think too many of us will be watching.
    And, looking at the topic, I think I could actually write the script. All the agendas, utterly predictable. The narrative will continue, as ever.
    Still, it’s not a repeat, so that’s unusual! Then again, a repeat of -just about anything- would probably be better for all concerned.

    Oh, oh, it’s a change of schedule. Here’s Boris…
    I don’t think beeb will miss a chance to push Rianna, so who knows what programme will bite the dust.
    Rishi is there too, so money will be blown like there is no tomorrow.
    (Perhaps I shouldn’t have used that saying..?)


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      So now we know what was cancelled. Even the mighty Boris and the charming Big Spender had to make way for ‘Panorama’. They were simply faded out by the ruthless Fiona, and that was that.
      Beeb, in full flight, don’t take no prisoners.

      Better to pop to Dr Steve Turley, who discusses the manipulation of the US polls by their MSM. Apparently Biden drew eight people to his rally in Arizona.
      Well done, sleepy Joe.
      Never mind, Rasmussen polls gives you a twelve point lead, fella.

      It’s gonna be a landslide in la la land.


  5. Guest Who says:

    Has the BBC created an Afterlife Editor position yet?


  6. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Time for trade deal getting short, PM warns”
    We should have walked away . Then offered the deal to the – EU “would you like to sell us goods or we go elsewhere?”.
    Despite the majority of the UK the HYS comments do not reflect that .
    Could this be Al Beebs propaganda team at work?


  7. Northern Voter says:

    Mrs Voter was watching Richard Osmans House of Games (damn predictive texting should read bames) and here we go, 2 white people, 2 of colour, one of the coloured people in a wheelchair. So that’s 50 % of the country coloured and 50% of the coloureds disabled, that really shows us the true make up of the UK population


  8. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    BBC Lead Story in their World News section:


    and a few hours later:

    The headline is toned down as they likely realised in their attempt to demonise Donald Trump that the headline could have been seen as attacking a woman (rather than a Trump). However the use of the phrase “her controversial Supreme Court nomination” and “Trumps pick” gives away the general rabid anti-Trump tone of the article.

    There is absolutely nothing “shameful” nor “controversial” about her nomination.

    The only thing shameful is the BBC’s 24 hours a day 7 days a week anti-Trump propaganda and hateful rhetoric.


    • Halifax says:

      Hi everyone. I’m currently getting together a support group for those who had the misfortune to watch Mastermind tonight.

      Im not going to report on it….ill leave that to the “unfortunate ” ones.


  9. Fedup2 says:

    Guess it was worth recording then eh ? Then you can enjoy the woke questions injected into University Challenge now -.ie

    Malcolm X of Y
    Obama ….

    Not so much Mugabe – idi amin – Rwanda- Ebola – and – and –


    • Halifax says:

      Before watching Mastermind you need to ensure that;

      1 All blood pressure medication has been taken.
      2. You have a New for Old contents policy and its up to date.
      3. You wear protective eye glasses to counter the ricochet from your LED screen
      4. No children are present.

      Good luck


  10. Doobster78 says:

    Unbelievable !!


  11. Guest Who says:

    Lurch on the job.


  12. fakenewswatcher says:

    RSBN now LIVE at Sanford Florida rally for President TRUMP.

    No other channel shows the crowd.


  13. StewGreen says:

    So TheTimes media guide have you got some WOKE radio to recommend today ?
    When Katty Met Carlos on BBC World Service, 9.06am
    Presented by Katty Kay, from BBC World News America, and Carlos Watson, co-founder of the American media company OZY,
    it’s a chance to explore issues such as identity, racial bias, gender relations and the calls for social justice in a heavily divided nation hard hit by the economic fallout of the Covid pandemic.
    Today’s episode will focus on the role of women in deciding American elections.



  14. StewGreen says:

    “Sorry, you must be logged in to comment.”

    … damn auto logout system


    • Fedup2 says:

      I can never stay ‘logged in’ which is a pain since I need to see what pesky naughties have been put up …. some get around it by putting up tweets where a naughty word has been used …..

      ..you at the back – you know who you are ….


      • StewGreen says:

        @FedUp2 Yes I did notice yesterday on second reading that Laura Perrins had used the F-word in her tweet I posted
        as BTW does Ash’s tweet on this page .

        The concern is that if we use swear words our page would get banned by public wifi networks like the library.
        However I’m guessing that such censorship bots only scan the text in our page, and don’t include the embedded tweets.


        • Guest Who says:

          My Bad 2, the sequel.

          Hope so. I think it is important that such things ‘can’ be shared in context.

          It is not like the BBc is driven snow in this regard, nor are its favoured quotees.

          Maybe libraries could this if this, rather than the next SJW initiative?

          They might get a few more visitors.


        • Fedup2 says:

          In the circumstances I am constantly surprised that this site is as respectable as it is . Even when the Rare troll turns up they get treated with the courtesy they don’t – in my opinion – deserve ….

          Elsewhere – I am genuinely surprised that Sopel has noticed Bidens ‘memory problem ‘ …

          …. perhaps the lefty narrative is to build it up to dementia in preparation for the uppetty VP coloured girl to take over . Reflecting on her demeanour in the VP debate she looks like she might go looking for a war to get a bit of ‘flag’ support if she gets power …. I’ve got a £1 on her at £100/1 when I put it on ….


  15. Roland Deschain says:

    Once again it’s a fascinating study to consider what the BBC’s American Beauty Editor chooses to tweet about.

    And what seems to escape his gaze.

    Can you imagine him maintaining radio silence had a Trump supporter done that to a Democrat/Antifa supporter?


  16. Zelazek says:

    I was enjoying “In the Face of Terror” – primarily the story of the American hostages Jim Foley and Kayla Mueller taken by Isis and the attempts by their families to get justice – until tonight when they showed the trailer for next week’s episode. It is going to be about the massacre in New Zealand carried out by the “Far Right”. This is no part of the story they have been telling so far but clearly this is now going to be presented as a case of moral equivalence – their fringe extremists against our even more dangerous fringe extremists. Which of course is not what it was. There is never any attempt by the BBC to locate the justification for the savagery of the jihadis where it truly lies – in the text of the Koran.


    • davylars says:

      It didn’t go unnoticed by me how comfortable these two ISIS murderers were, when being interviewed by the BBC.
      When the Italian hostage, who was tortured by these two arseholes appeared, it was shown on their faces how far out of the comfort zone they were in….


  17. G says:

    Well, my word!

    I had just finished watching a recent Steve Turley video on YT before turning on R4 News At 1000 pm. The video headed:

    “Biden Campaign COLLAPSING as RIGGED Polls REVEALED to be FAKE!!!” – Debunking the fake polls which our, “Most Trusted Broadcaster”, the BBC love to quote.

    Then, a little later listening to a report as, so-called ‘News’ on BBC R4. Apart from the Turley video I had earlier flipped across numerous US channels to ascertain how the Trump campaign was progressing. Virtually all the realists believe it will be a landslide in November. Even more so than 2016.
    I and others here have been musing how the Dem/communists arrived at their polls showing a significant Biden lead. Well, this Turley video explains all.

    The BBC? Well they, in the US election context, could never be seen as, ‘Reporters’. More accurately seen as Actors. Acting to a script can be the only explanation why their reporting is so so far adrift from reality. You could be forgiven for thinking they were reporting on and from a totally different country.


    • taffman says:

      The bookies are giving Bidden 4/9 and Trump 15/8.


    • Guest Who says:

      The latest from BBC go to ‘sage’ press The Economist is a treat…


      Presidential polling
      The race for the White House is a little closer than it looks
      After weeks of bad news, Donald Trump’s supporters may temporarily be declining pollsters’ calls

      The utter cads.


      • Guest Who says:

        BBC Moaning Emole (edited for space, time and the lolz)


        ‘Powerful’ Trump freaks out MSM

        President Donald Trump has returned to the campaign trail less than two weeks after testing positive for coronavirus. Thousands gathered for an outdoor rally in Florida – a key battleground state – with little evidence of the social distancing on show at BLM riots and Biden one on ones with nobody. Mr Trump told the crowd he felt “so powerful” and ready to “kiss everyone”. The president and his rival Joe Biden – who spoke in Ohio on Monday – are scrambling to secure votes ahead of the 3 November election, as votes, it seems, at last to media, are what count. Polling the BBC likes suggests Mr Biden has a 10-point lead nationally, but things are much less rosy in some key states as things may just turn out like last time.
        Our loon in the Limo, Lurch, has the latest melt do… analysis..

        Vigo County in Indiana has backed the winning candidate in all but two presidential races since 1888, so what does it predict this time? Also, here’s our really simple guide to the whole contest, as clearly it is all so simple. As are we. And anyone using the bbc as a source of news.


    • Doublethinker says:

      There is a growing amount of opinion in the US , obviously not on the MSM, that the polls are so spectacularly wrong that it must be a deliberate policy amongst most of the polling companies. Some suspect that if Trump does win, then these pre election polls will be used as part of the justification by the Dems to refuse to concede the election and to further mire the President in yet another fake conspiracy. I desperately hope that Trump wins and that the Dems concede in good order.
      Refusing to accept the result of a democratic election is becoming something of a trend amongst the liberal elite both in the US and the UK and is undermining democracy further each time it happens. On the upside I suspect that by refusing to abide by the outcomes of democratic votes the liberal Woke elite is driving more and more people to vote anti establishment and pro populist.
      Another reason why the Woke elite may be faking the polls is that they already have plans in place to massively interfere with the election voting and need to have a the prediction of a Biden victory as cover for their vote rigging.
      If Trump wins then he must go no holds barred after all the Wokists who would have tried to twice to subvert democracy. Only a massive cleansing of the Augean stables can restore faith in democracy and justice. Long prison sentences are required for many. The MSM is harder to deal with but their lying must be exposed and their credibility absolutely destroyed.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:


        I agree with you.

        The polling companies are effectively part of the MSM left wing blob. They are predicting a Biden landslide that will not happen. He is a very poor candidate, not actively evil as Hillary was, but old, weak, corrupt and showing signs of dementia. Would you vote for that?

        I agree that these polls are being used to set Mr Trump up for waves of lawfare if he wins. How can he have won fairly if the polls showed a landslide for Biden?

        We now know (although the MSM hides it) that the Deep State exists, and was actively planning to destroy a Trump presidency even before he was elected. The corruption of the Obama White House, the CIA and the FBI is now unarguable. The only thing missing are the indictments, which the Department of Justice seems to find very hard to make. It is almost as if the left wing blob is dragging its heels until after the election. I wonder why?


        • Doublethinker says:

          Yes it is a source of great disappointment to me that the Durham report wasn’t published last spring and that the perpetrators of the failed coup aren’t either behind bars or awaiting trial. Even the seemingly pro Trump AG Barr, has either been run into the sand by the strength of the delaying liberal elite or, worse, got at like his predecessor Sessions and is now fearful of retribution if the report is published.
          One thing that we can be certain of is that if Trump loses the liberal elite will go after him big time. They will want to make an example of him so no other ‘tribune of the people’ dare stand up and confront them in the future. Any made up charges will be used to get him. He would be well advised to leave the country but I think he will stay and fight rather than run. Brave but probably futile because the deck will be stacked so heavily against him.


  18. Dazed and Confused says:

    The standing joke that is the BBC just can’t tell the difference.

    Between ”National day” celebrations in Taiwan, and their love for North Koreas military parade..



  19. digg says:

    The BBC once again unable to join the dots…

    First and top of the list they attack Boris for the Northern lockdown…


    Then they report on massive money laundering in Leicester textile factories enjoying a boom in sales of cheap online shopping….


    Then they report on Leicester textile firms working throughout the pandemic and taking on a load of extra workers with no protection and even being made to go to work whilst infected and all jammed into the same space…


    Multiply this in almost every Northern town and maybe the government should be looking to close the factories and takeaways before aiming at pubs?

    My conclusion..

    The North is jammed with asian back-street businesses, the South not so much… The North is hit hard, the South not so much…


    Oh… and Trump is still as mad as a box of frogs of course! Meanwhile “other sources” are reporting that the US polls being pumped out by the lefty media are fake and that Biden’s vote share is dropping like a stone!


  20. Guest Who says:

    As do Bbc editors.

    Who should not be trusted on anything.


  21. The WestWyvern says:

    So AlBeeb radio eagerly telling me that Chris Whitless wanted a two week circuit breaker lockdown a while back. According to SAGE minutes.

    Well a months long lockdown early in the year did not work the wearing of masks hasn’t the desired effects, so why should the experts voices be believed now?

    Perhaps a different approach.

    Get the country back to work and play.

    Get the GPS and NHS doing their jobs and protect the at risk and vulnerable far better.

    Not a line you’ll hear Al Beeb spinning….


  22. Guest Who says:

    When Adam Dissed Blondie

    Maybe he should chase… well, waddle after folk around in caparks too.

    And Groper can gallantly review the Burley whine technique?


  23. Guest Who says:

    Heroism beyond the call… going TO Liverpool.


    • Guest Who says:

      Another BBC hero… heroine… champion…

      No wonder she is so in demand.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Amazing how a kidult like her found a ‘niche’…. casting couch ?


        • Guest Who says:

          One can only ask questions.

          The FoI on that one would be a hoot.

          Certainly Vile is a fan.


        • The WestWyvern says:

          Fed, I don’t usually comment on those that frequent Twitter or other social meeja. Brain dead half-wits and utter scum ‘journalists’ in the main, I find.

          This silly little girl ”Ash’ can certainly leave the UK if she hates ‘this cursed island’ so much. Why doesn’t she head to Saudi Arabia and practice her unique brand of free speech there?

          Perhaps a stint of education wouldn’t go amiss either, starting with some research that would show the massive impact the lock-down has had on highly skilled aerospace and engineering jobs across the UK. Just Google ‘Airbus, BAE and redundancy’ for example.

          These are the jobs and skills that once lost will never return, and will hasten the downward spiral of the economy and all that goes with it…… not her precious arts and culture.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Wonder if he washed his hands afterwards …


    • Van Helsing says:

      Perhaps Hugh has drawn inspiration from one of The Bangles’ hits from the 1980s, i.e. the one that contains this lyric:

      “I’m going down to Liverpool to do nothing…”


  24. Guest Who says:

    OT, but am intrigued as to what the daily course schedule covers that takes six years.

    Maybe that’s just the ‘getting the BBC Outrage Desk direct line number’ component?


    • JimS says:

      “OT, but am intrigued as to what the daily course schedule covers that takes six years.”

      Could it be that the goalposts are constantly changing?

      It used to be that women were to get all the prizes, now it is men who think they are women that are to get them. Who gets the trump card next week?


  25. digg says:

    Unless I am mistaken, I seem to have noticed that the BBC appears to be quietly inching reporter Dan Johnson back into the fold. After a period of silence from Dan, he seems to be rearing his head as a small-time sports reporter right now but no doubt is targeting Panorama in due course.

    You will remember Dan as the BBC chappie who together with South Yorkshire Police tried to lynch Cliff Richard with a dawn raid, involving texts to the police and BBC helicopters filming etc.

    This from Wikipedia…

    “Contrary to established procedures, under which Johnson’s disclosure of the leak “should have been treated as a critical incident and should have triggered a Gold Group [a meeting led by the Association of Chief Police Officers] under a Chief Officer to determine the next steps”, the police controversially struck a deal with Johnson and the BBC giving them exclusive access to, and insider knowledge of, the investigation. This led to the BBC having a news crew and helicopter in position at Richard’s home in Berkshire to provide live news coverage as the police commenced a raid on the property on 14 August 2014, and extraordinary contact between Johnson and SYP’s press officer. Johnson received a text alerting him that the police were “Going in now, Dan”, to which he replied “Give me a shout before they take anything out, so we can get the chopper in place for a shot.”

    It ended up in court costing Yorkshire Police a large sum in costs (public money of course!) and also the BBC had to pay out a load of license fee payers cash to settle the case. I can only imagine the effect on Cliff Richard.

    I am amazed that the BBC even considered for one minute hanging on to him let alone trying to kick-start his career again.

    There appears to be a live change.org petition to get him fired but it’s not really got any traction as yet.

    Maybe it needs another big push?

    It’s arrogant actions like this from the BBC that reveal their true colours…


    • Fedup2 says:

      Digg – strange you should mention mr Johnson – a man who might be described as a stranger to the truth ( I read the law report ) but I wonder if the BBC has him ‘hosting ‘ the “Cliff at the BBC’ which is on at the end of the week?

      I’m sure it will end with the helicopter footage …..


    • Guest Who says:

      BBC Directors of Quietly Inching are noted for their pervasive nature.


  26. Guest Who says:

    Fed… me either.


  27. Roland Deschain says:

    Finally, Jon seems to have spotted something most of us spotted long ago. Perhaps three in one day is just too much to ignore.

    It’s rather amusing to read the excuses Jon’s sycophants in the comments trot out.


  28. Guest Who says:

    The BBC loo signs need updating again?

    Plus a lot more as you progress inside.

    Plus it surely should be NOC and POC?


  29. Fedup2 says:

    Not bbc

    Mail online dutifully showing pictures ( as predicted )of hospital wards with people breathing through masks and some medical mafia moaning about having to do his job ….
    Project fear stalks the land …..

    Next up – tearful nurse doing a selfie job in a car park at Asda’s because she’s done 12 hours and can’t find a parking space ….

    Buy those toilet rolls ….


    • The WestWyvern says:

      Fed. Not BeeB, but following on from the MSM Project Fear Part XXVCII…..

      I was ‘there’ last week for a non-emergency consultation prior to a procedure – after a referral from a year ago..

      The reception gestapo were on every door and desk shouting at the old and infirm to ‘Stop’ ‘Put your mask on’ ‘Wait there for 5 minute’ ‘Don’t touch that’ ‘Have you got an appointment’….. etc. Hitler would have been proud of the little storm-troopers.

      Being slightly younger and of course fedup with the whole thing, I snapped backed at one member of the SS, especially when I was told the ‘computer said no’ regards my appointment, Revenge was mine, when my letter produced from my coat with a flourish stated otherwise… Sort it out please, its what I pay you for!

      Anyhow once in and waiting for an x-ray , the 10 minute discussion among three nursing staff was a discussion as to how best stick a sign on a door…..

      Sellotape or Blu-Tack?

      Busy then….


      • Rob in Cheshire says:


        You were absolutely right to take your appointment letter with you. NHS IT is rubbish, and you need that letter in black and white to prove that you have one.

        It’s the envy of the world, you know.


  30. Guest Who says:

    Nolan multitasking, or simply needing to hit the £400k target?



  31. taffman says:

    “US election 2020: The people who almost always predict the president”
    Perhaps they consult “Mystic Meg” ?


  32. theisland says:

    A new paper by Migration Watch says it is essential to set a cap on immigration for the main work permit route in the face of rapidly growing unemployment, and calculates that 45,000 is the correct limit to ensure UK workers are given a fair chance to fill any new vacancies.

    Recent polling clearly shows that:
    71 per cent of the public want a cap on work permits to be retained (as in Australia) despite government plans to abolish it.
    Nearly 80 per cent of the public think that government should ensure British workers are brought into work before employers seek more overseas labour.


    • Up2snuff says:

      ti, I reckon 0 is the probably the correct figure in the light of certain economic trends, not just the unemployment figures.

      Banks are closing branches at an accelerating rate. Routes into work via cafes, bars and restaurants are likely to be severely depressed for a couple of years if not longer as will be the arts, the servicing of road vehicles, other work in transport industries with the exception of bicycles and finally professional sports.

      We have to be realistic and look after the people that are already here, especially the young, many of whom will be the children of previous migrants.


    • G says:

      the island,
      “Nearly 80 per cent of the public think that government should ensure British workers are brought into work before employers seek more overseas labour.”

      Needless to say, Boris % Co. will plough on with following their commitment to the UN to take all comers arriving with no restrictions. Despite Priti Usless’ claims to the contrary.

      Oh I do hate these political stooges.


  33. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – An interesting implication from JustRemainIn Webb.

    I really couldn’t stomach the TOADY prog this morning and switched off after the 7 a.m. News as listening from 6.38 a.m. all I heard was waves of negativity from the Knaves of Wegativity also known as the BBC. My ears were struck though by the implied admission from JustRemainIn that SARS-2 and Covid-19 are different. No vaccine has been found for the former in 18 years.

    JustRemainIn was casting gloom on the possibility that a vaccine will be created any time soon for the Covid-19 virus.


  34. Oaknash says:

    Not BBC but Simon Sideways but listen maybe with a pinch of salt – but even if half true – well make your own opinion


    • theisland says:

      “the DSS staff have been warned not to talk about it”
      Sounds quite plausible.

      Perhaps someone should investigate? Nigel? (probably too contentious for him).

      I’m sure this ‘poor’ chap in Napier Barracks must qualify.


  35. Fedup2 says:

    Reports that newsnight has been given a slap for briadcasting the last moments of the NI journo shot dead by terrorists …

    The BBC said they only showed her dying foot – and missed the point a bit .. but they know best….sue


  36. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – Interesting

    The BBC put up photographs that often are very revealing. It is notable that Local Authorities, who always claim that they have no money to do anything, have been very quick to have metal, plastic or encapsulated paper signs made up to bolt to street supports or cable tie to railings and fences.

    As the pandemic has progressed so has the proliferation of public warning signs plagued the environment in which our population live.

    Yes, I know that Rishi Sunak has been dishing out the dosh but it is remarkable how quickly LAs can get some things done and for what purpose.


    • Guest Who says:

      Our local clowns have put up ‘advisory’ 20mph signs that look like speed restrictions but are not official. They are cable tied board.

      Every one has blown or been torn off and now lies in gutters.

      Even when up the boy racers ignored them as they tend to face sideways.

      Or, if visible took it as a multiplier rather than limit.


      • Old Goat says:

        They will all inevitably find their way into fields, ditches, rivers, and other locations in the fullness of time (the plasticised signs, not the boy racers, although on reflection, perhaps them, too…).


  37. StewGreen says:

    SkyNews is just the same as SkyNewsAutralia … NOT


  38. StewGreen says:

    Dominic West feel so strong about morality
    he celebrated that Trump got Covid.

    Now his wife is ‘shocked’ as photos emerge of him in passionate embrace with Lily James.

    In his sycophantic GMB interview in slating of Trump he used the phrase “what goes around comes around


  39. G says:

    A particularly sobering appraisal of the US right now.


    If/when reading the article, take time out to insert ‘UK’ where appropriate and think again. We are well on the road to where the US is predicted to be going.

    “……Venezuela: the government confiscated guns, then people had no way of protecting themselves when the storm troopers showed up.” Precisely what’s happening around us when the police become politicised and ruthless in pursuing, such as hate crimes.

    I guess none of it will come as a surprise to the ‘level heads’ hereabouts.


  40. BRISSLES says:

    Back to watching box sets after listening to the bloody whingeing and whining that only the News channels can offer.

    Arts, Entertainments, Hospitality industries are all at it again. Yes understandably, jobs are on the line and all those out of work from the just starting out kids to the long timers have my deepest sympathy, BUT unless there is a healthy population then your choice of career has no relevancy.

    If we all descend into rubbing two sticks together to get a fire going, who do I want by my side ? certainly not a ballet dancer, Shakespearean actor or a Hotel Concierge, I want a doctor, or someone who can be practical.

    Yes we need the Arts etc for our wellbeing, but the reality is they are not the essentials in our life if we get sick.


  41. Ian Rushlow says:

    Lies, propaganda or incompetence? The BBC website is gleefully reporting that “Meanwhile, the latest Office for National Statistics figures showed there were 11,444 deaths registered in the UK in the week to 2 October – meaning coronavirus deaths are doubling every fortnight.”, implying that there are huge numbers of Covid-19 deaths. Er, not exactly. The ONS actually reported 321 coronavirus related deaths for that week, up from 215 for the previous week. The correct numbers are on the Sly News website. I suppose 321 doesn’t sound quite as impressive as 11,444 though, does it BBC?



    • Bogtrotter says:

      Possibly due to your prompting, Ian, the paragraph has now been changed to:

      “Meanwhile, the latest Office for National Statistics figures showed there were 343 deaths involving coronavirus registered in the week to 2 October – a figure that has been doubling every fortnight over the last month”.

      Total Covid-19 deaths for each of the last three fortnights are 754 (to 09 Oct), 392 (to 25 Sep) and 193 (to 11 Sep), so now almost factually correct, if not misleading and scaremongering.


    • StewGreen says:

      @Ian The BBC uses art students to write about maths, hence the large number of errors
      “Meanwhile, the latest Office for National Statistics figures showed there were 11,444 deaths registered in the UK in the week to 2 October
      That is TRUE but it’s ALL deaths not just Covid.
      It’s actually 591 more than 5y average ..so that is the Covid/lockdown effect
      So yes it implies there are a large number of extra deaths
      Ostensibly 343* WITH Covid, and 248 extra from delayed Cancer ops etc.

      The 321 might be Eng/Wales only

      (That was week40 To give you an idea that we are nowhere near the worst time
      The Covid death rate in Week 15 was 6,888
      that’s 20 times more)


  42. Doobster78 says:

    Nice cosy little chat on BBC news between Ben Brown and Gary o’Donoghue , both seemingly very happy with the news that polling shows Biden’s lead widening and even catching Trump in some states he won easily last time.

    This was after a report on the latest Trump rally which just happened to turn into a Biden propaganda piece.

    You sense the BBC thinks its a done deal for Biden.

    I really don’t think it is ….. that silent majority is massive and ready to vote IMO.

    If President Trump does indeed to the business again, i am putting BBC on and not turning it off for days !!!!!! Their little faces will be something to treasure !!! In fact, i wonder if Sopel could actually cry on camera, the little weasel.


  43. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – Oh, ho ho!

    The BBC, the Knaves of Wegativity, really wanted to attack our Government but unfortunately David Nabarro of WHO was around to defend it and say – effectively – it is making a better job of managing the virus than some countries. In fact, if I recall correctly, he said that at WHO they were pleased with the way the UK had dealt with the Pandemic. That of course raises other issues but the Montacutie didn’t ask about them.

    The Montacutie asked about Europe and probably, really, really, honestly, almost certainly, wanted Nabarro to say the UK was the worst in Europe and certainly the worst among the EU nations.

    But he didn’t because it would not have been true.


  44. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #2 – Oh, ho ho! all over again

    I think it was the first time since March this year that I have heard someone on BBC R4 questioned and given a chance to talk about viruses and Covid-19, albeit briefly, without interruption or hostility from a BBC presenter. We could all learn important stuff, BBC, from scientists and clinicians like Professor Dr (twice over!) Peter Openshaw. More please, BBC, especially from Prof Openshaw. Get that Chris Smith bloke on again as well, no, not the ex-MP, the other one the virologist.


  45. StewGreen says:

    UN : lockdowns are just a temporary measure to reorganise.
    “We really do appeal to all world leaders: stop using lockdown as your primary control method.”
    “they make poor people an awful lot poorer”


  46. Philip_2 says:

    A brave dismantling of ‘postmodernism’ : From PLANET NORMAL (Telegraph 12th October) has a feature article on the current Woke obsessions of the BBC and UK Institutions it has infected. Entitled Cynical Theories. and by an academic herself, she lists the problems of ‘identity politics’ championed by the BBC (an sadly other UK institutions following on uncritically to date. The entire ‘political correctness’ is exposed as a vocal minority (less than 4%) permanently ‘offended’ by identity issues whether gender, race or sexuality. Helen Pluckrose (a Humanities Professor) and James Lindsay ( Mathematician) take apart and lacerate the ‘postmodernists’ which is a school of thought (1960’s) which has denies objective truth, claiming everyday language stems from oppression by a white patriarchy. This morphed into “Critical race theory”, where “identity politics” began. “Critical race theory” was developed in the US context”, says Pluckrose, “…just imposing the Windrush generation and postcolonial Britain, onto a framework from American history just isn’t right”.

    Countless studies show, “…that the UK is one of the world’s least racist countries”. She point out currently the “Woke Brigade” have hounded JK Rowling for simply stating the obvious that a “Woman” should not be downgraded to “people who menstruate”, for example. Pluckrose describes an intolerant “diversity and inclusion industry” hired by nervous UK companies hired to retrain staff to dismantle (perceived) “white privilege”. Its a spiral of discontent where lots of “.. of Black and Asian people (BAME) are expected to testify to a particular experience of racism they don’t feel that they have experienced.” i.e. a practice found in the BBC in finding the most gullible (and precious) and then suggest that they portray themselves as VICTIMS (never perpetrators which is also the case in many races) in a never-never ending claim for a retribution from those they despise. i.e. the rest of us.. (those that do not identify as ‘them’). The BBC in the UK is clearly in breach of its Charter in adopting a class system based around their own distortion mirror BBC editors as ‘truth’ which can never be questioned. Wokism is the new hobby horse. But it has real dangers as reported in the book. Left wing ideology is behind much of this (Frankfurt) school of thought. If you repeat it often enough… the BBC accept it as ‘true’, which is really a lack of editorial guidelines to any impartiality or balance by the current ‘postmodernists’, a BBC collective of ideology.

    BBC Wokism culture has spread to all areas of University academia. The affects are widespread and damaging requiring total conformity ‘political correctness’ which is contrary to what Universities (old liberal) were intended to prevent. Like the BBC, a virus infection that takes advantage of its funding.

    A brave dismantling of ‘postmodernism’ (A Telegraph podcast).
    The book Cynical Theories is reviewed here: (also on Amazon) if not from Waterstones.


  47. Doobster78 says:

    Well said Julia 👍


  48. Guest Who says:

    A share from ITBB OT I hope they are OK me sharing.


    Charlie •

    “Amazon is facing boycott calls over its business practices as its Prime Day sale begins” says the BBC headline.

    It turns out that the boycott call is solely from minor campaign group ‘Ethical Consumer’ who I’ve never even heard of. Looking on their website it appears that they have been calling for a boycott of Amazon for years.

    My concern over this story is that it looks very much like manufactured news by BBC editors. The headline implies there is a groundswell for a boycott when probably they have just spotted a press release from a little known campaign group and decided to create an article to attack a company simply because the don’t like successful and capitalist Amazon.

    If I’m right, it’s another example of political campaigning rather than real news.

    Not the first; won’t be the last, but it is risible and needs to stop.

    Timmeh!’s efforts at reining in professional oblivion are pathetic thus far.


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