Start the Week Thread 5 October 2020

The Liberal media continues to hope for President Trump to die – without saying it – otherwise than nods and winks – the absence of real concern or even false affection is striking . Bit of a week on the way ..

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364 Responses to Start the Week Thread 5 October 2020

  1. G says:

    YT keeps offering Benny Hill to me. Subject? – ‘Socialism’ –

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    • Guest Who says:

      On that topic.

      https://order-order.com/2020/10/05/zaras-low-wage-hypocrisy/?

      Another for Nick and Laura to ‘analyse’, or… not feel they have time for?

      It was never great, but the standard of MPs has hit rock bottom.

      Sure the money is ok, but for anyone halfway competent the actual total lack of influence at constituency level and grief factor if in a position of responsibility, especially from media, means no one sane will go near.

      Which leaves crooks and chancers too thick, or thick skinned to care so long as the expenses get paid and calls from Today producers keep rolling in so long as they deliver magic sound bites for ‘news’ summary “quotes”.

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  2. Guest Who says:

    Faisal sending a message to fellow #FBPE faithful.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Basic principle is if EU puts X% tariffs on products UK factories send into the EU, the UK would end up collecting X% tariffs on products EU factories send into the UK
      What would it do with that cash ?
      The logical thing would be to pay the tariff bill the UK factories had just got from the EU.

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  3. jazznick1 says:

    Just watched parts of Gardener’s World from last week that were watchable, so that’s about 20 mins.

    Monty Don took us to look at his tomatoes in his greenhouse that had been a failure. This was ‘climate change’ as we had had a few overcast days this summer – (plus his grapevine had blocked out the light from above that may have had something to do with it)

    The tomatoes grown in the garden were fine, however !

    So, ‘selective’ climate change or a BBC obligation to get CC in whenever possible ?

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    • Bogtrotter says:

      Great minds, jazznick – I posted about Monty’s toms yesterday:

      Weekend Thread 3 October 2020

      And I quite agree that only about 20 mins of the hour are watchable once you’ve weeded out the dumbing down and agenda pushing – that mostly leaves the quieter interludes with the dogs lying in the sunshine.

      There used to be a handy weather forecast for your weekend gardening, so perhaps they should revive that and get Greta in.

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    • Scroblene says:

      Tomatoes don’t need much heat, but they do need a lot of light at their formative days.

      Monty should know this and it has nothing to do with climate change either!

      I grew 65 plants this year, and they all thrived in various parts of the garden, which is a strategy whereby if blight strikes, some may escape if in another area. This method also makes for a staggered supply throughout the season. He should know that as well.

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  4. BRISSLES says:

    One minute in to Rishi’s conference speech and ………. frozen picture. The tech world never ceases to amaze me. We can get uninterrupted reports live from Sydney or L.A but on the doorstep, 3 miles down the road, and we get vocal stuttering, frozen screens, loss of sound and then a blank screen.

    Aren’t the best in the tech field working in communications and in news channels, supposed to know what they’re doing ???? because Covid has shown that the tech world might as well go back to landline telephones and paper and pen. How much has been spent on Track and Trace ? because that company certainly wasn’t up to the job, and they’ve had 6 months to sort it out.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Wot no carrier pigeon?

      Funny thing, I was just thinking of field telephones the other day; the sort where you turn the handle rapidly to make the bell ring so you can talk to Capt Mainwaring but you get Sgt Wilson instead.

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  5. tarien says:

    Another national Lockdown? In these troubled times facts are important for the public. Sadly the ‘facts’ from the likes of Sir Patrick Vallance and Professor Chris Whitty at this week’s press conference were lamentable, to say the least. Their absurd conjecture of an exponential explosion in COVID has already proved to be nonsense, with ‘case’ numbers dropping ever since they made their announcement. doom-mongering daily news from the BBC and other broadcasters.
    There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time.
    You can start testing well people (who, of course, will also likely have shreds of coronavirus DNA in them) and thus inflate your ‘case figures’ with ‘asymptomatic carriers’ (you will of course have to spin that to sound deadly even though any virologist knows the more symptom-less cases you have the less deadly is your pathogen.
    Take these simple steps and you can have your own entirely manufactured pandemic up and running in weeks.
    A national Lockdown can then be rolled out anytime with out any real public consultation.The Government’s tyrannical and increasingly hysterical and draconian measures are now a deadly serious threat to the lives and economy of this country. Boris rushed through another ‘illegal’ law on Sunday evening without Parliamentary scrutiny criminalising businesses if they do not enforce the preposterous Covid rules! The fools in Parliament have ceded control to someone who appears to have become slightly mad and they are having difficulty regaining their influence.

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  6. vlad says:

    BBC bias by omission: there is a large movement in the US called WalkAway, or Walk Away Campaign, or sometimes Walk Away From the Democrats.

    As the name suggests it gives a platform to the large number of people who have left the Dems in favour of the Reps, or are considering it.

    As well as organising real-space events, they have a large online presence on the various social media platforms – nearly half a million just on Fb, over 200,000 on YT, nearly 100,000 on Twitter etc.

    On the day Trump was hospitalised, WalkAway happened to have organised a big rally in Washington called Silent No More, which was attended by thousands (including Katie Hopkins) many of whom then went on to stand outside the hospital in support.

    I have never heard the beeb so much as mention the movement, and if you search WalkAway in any spelling on the beeb webshite nothing shows up.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDb4InP9mRZR9oogD1b2dOQ

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/OFFICIALWalkAwayCampaign

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Vlad – if it is as you say – it’s good evidence of the BBC unfairly reporting a foreign election – although the BBC seems to have a colonial attitude to America as though it is part of Islington .

      I don’t know enough about their election process to know if the election can be postponed – and the mechanisms for challenging the result – as well as the nature of postal voting which seems as open to fraud there as it is in the UK.

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      • Dobyns says:

        Fedup2

        While it might be possible to fudge some ‘early’ dates, the date of the Inauguration is fixed in the Constitution.

        Up until the last couple of elections, you had to contact your local.Election Board and specifically request an “Absentee Ballot” (postal vote) and provide at least a thread of a reason why you would not be voting in person. You also had to be on the Electoral Rolls when you made your request.

        Now, ballots are being mailed out willy-nilly with no regard as to whether the individual is even eligible to vote (my friend’s dog got one in 2016) like being a citizen, or legally old enough to vote at a minimum.

        There are as many ways of challenging the results as there are American versions of Gina Miller.

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  7. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – Hints of a disagreement in the Conservative Party today over Covid testing …

    ….. suggested by the Montacutie in advance turned out to be nothing of the sort. She got to interview former SoS for Health & defeated PM candidate, Jeremy Hunt, about the NHS/DeptHealth/PH(England)/ONS Covid statistics bungle. Hunt was not obliging the BBC in blaming the PM, the Spoonerism too far Matt Hancock or the Cabinet generally. In fact, if you listen in Pravda-mode, between the lines as it were, Jeremy Hunt sort of waved a finger in the direction of ‘Health bosses’. But he also pointed out the other realities of going for a centralised system, from scratch, in a 0-60mph time of about 3.8 seconds as they did back in the Spring.

    No doubt the BBC will carefully select a phrase from the interview that they can use to make the PM look bad, anyway. Nothing on the web-site so far.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Has dido been fired yet ?
      Didn’t she preside over IT failure at Talk Talk?

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Fed:

        She certainly did. I still get nuisance calls from India about my Talk Talk account. Unluckily for them I ditched Talk talk years ago and have never looked back.

        Dido Harding is utterly useless, and the fact Boris uses her tells me a lot.

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  8. Roland Deschain says:

    If true, they really are mentally ill now.

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  9. Guest Who says:

    No such thing as bad publicity?

    Joe who?

    If nothing else, the pea brains in the MSM have erased the other bloke from… everything.

    Maybe the new age requires Reality TV/social media pols after all. In the West at least.

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  10. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Today’s numbers.
    12594 cases.
    19 covid related deaths (with covid but not necessarily of covid)

    19

    1 person in 3.5 million

    At that rate it will take until past the year 302,020 to kill everyone in the UK. Yes, this is just as daft a prediction as some governing us.

    Hundreds are dying each day because of the effects of the governments handling of this weak failing virus.
    Flu, heart, pneumonia, dementia, cancer, stroke and the other killers all on the back burner and the nightingale hospitals remain empty.

    Like Asian flu and Hong Kong flu (where no national actions were taken) in the 50’s and 60’s this one will also die out.
    But what a dogs breakfast they’re making of this illness where the majority who have it don’t even know they have it.

    Covid (1% of deaths) is way down the list but, as with those (3%) on an earlier thread, is ‘punching well above its weight’

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  11. pugnazious says:

    When the gay marriage legislation was being voted on in Parliament the BBC allowed ‘Mrs Brown’s Boys’ to turn the episode before the vote into a pro-gay marriage propaganda piece.

    Seems it was all an act.

    Today we learn that the gay actors were paid less and have been written out of the Christmas specials, one written out altogether.

    And further on the subject…the BBC made sure the gay Eddie Mair was front and central in the reporting of the issue and the vote.

    He has a special interest in the subject so……and it’s the same for bame reporters…..Mishal Husain gets the Muslim reports and you may have noticed that so many other reports on ethnic subjects also get the bame reporters….of course with so many bames at the BBC now, out of all proportion to their presence in the population, maybe that’s just how the cards fall.

    Hmmm…so much for impartiality…and consistency.

    Consider the very different treatment of Jenni Murray….

    ‘I was not leaving, contrary to popular rumour, as a result of ageism on the part of the BBC. I made the decision a year ago when it became clear to me that it was time to move on and be free of the leash which, in recent years, had caused me to be what I can only describe as ‘cancelled’.

    I made clear that I was not transphobic or anti-trans. Indeed, I emphasised my belief that everyone — whether transgender or those of us who hold to the sex assigned to us at birth — should be treated with respect and protected from the bullying and violence that so many like me have suffered.

    I merely asked the trans activists to acknowledge the difference between sex and gender, a trans woman and a woman, respect our right to safe single-sex spaces and abandon the nonsensical idea that we should be known as ‘cis women’.

    We are women. No need for further definition.

    Of course, I was branded a TERF — a Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist — on social media and threatened with all kinds of violence. But what shocked me most was the BBC’s response.

    I was roundly ticked off publicly and informed that I would not be allowed to chair any discussions on the trans question or the proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act. I had lots of emails and tweets asking me why I had not been involved in this debate, as it was so important to Woman’s Hour listeners. You have the answer.

    A similar response from the BBC came as a result of a short piece I wrote for a book after the referendum on EU membership resulted in our leaving the Union.

    Another warning from the BBC came at me. I had breached the rules on impartiality again and this time I would be banned from covering the election in 2019.

    Murray was banned from dealing with any subject she had an interest in…or rather from any issue that her interest in was not aligned with the BBC’s own views. The BBC itself can be biased but not its journalists. If she had said she agreed with everything trans-people said she would have been fine to keep on reporting as Mair did on gay issues.

    She also confirms what I have always thought….

    ‘ At one point I was actually encouraged by a channel controller to write a regular column as a way of widening awareness of Woman’s Hour and Radio 4.’

    When BBC staff go ‘off ranch’ and write articles for other publications you have to think it is with the express permission of their bosses…one to promote the BBC itself but also to promote the BBC’s worldview and to get it into publications and in front of audiences that wouldn’t possibly normally be subjected to them, and allowing them to express their bias even more explicitly. There’s a reason they all so often turn up in the Mail, the Telegraph and Spectator…though Red Andy seems to prefer sticking to his own kind in the New Statesman.

    Why you might ask is Sopel writing a long article in the Mail, which is hardly worthy of being called ‘journalism’….it’s a stream of sneers and smears, the usual Sopel fare….for example he suggests Trump does have links to Russia…there’s a report isn’t there?!?!……

    ‘Wasn’t there a report on Donald Trump’s links to Russia? ‘

    Does he mean that utterly fraudulent report that was proved to be a lie and was fed to America by Russian intelligence via the Democrat Party which was happy to work hand in hand with the Russians?….the meeting arranged between Trump and the Russian lawyers was arranged by the Democrats in a sting attempt. It is the Democrats who had the links to Russia not Trump….but when do you hear Sopel & Co ever state that?

    Sopel gave Trump a similar treatment on Today this morning….no facts or real issues just a stream of anti-Trump bias that didn’t inform nor educate…his final word….Trump’s behaviour was ‘mad’.

    One way or another the BBC seeks to utterly dominate the media and news scene….its ‘help’ to local Press included providing its own journalists to them…thus extending its power and influence even further.

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  12. taffman says:

    “PureGym sorry for ‘unacceptable’ slavery post”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-54419760
    Freedom of speech ?
    Who or what is driving this woke culture ? Another ‘own goal’ by Labour.

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  13. Docmarooned says:

    Pure Gym! Yet another woke organanisation I will boycott along with Uncle Bens, Ben and Jerry, Walkers crisps (the jug ears ads) etc etc etc. Does anyone do a comprehensive list of woke nonsense organisations in case I accidentally buy anything from them?

       28 likes

    • DYKEVISIONS says:

      Just avoid In(Sainsbury’s) …woke history month ..again!

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    • harry142857 says:

      I’ve bought work shirts for donkeys years from TM Lewin, good quality at a reasonable price. Now that they have got Lineker to endorse their product, I’ve ditched them and let them know why. Its a start.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Harr – lewin was always heading down market but I didn’t know it had gone down as far as Lineker…

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        • theleftwilleatitself says:

          I shook Lineker’s hand through the fence at Wembley in ’91 after the final you know Fedup 😁
          I never thought 30 years on that I’d consider him such a jug-eared tw*t 😬

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Ha ha I’d be so ashamed I couldn’t even tell my priest in the confessional…

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Yorkshire Tea, Taylor’s of Harrogate Coffee and Betty’s cafe, the latter only has six branches all in Yorkshire but very nice for treats.
      Greene King brewers. I have unfortunately had to put these on my list of Woke businesses to be boycotted. A real sacrifice because Betty’s was a great treat provided by my missus as a reward when I reluctantly accompanied her on one of her shopping days in Harrogate or York.

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    • africamike says:

      @Docmarooned: here is an American one which is also applicable to many brands we are familiar withL https://www.investingadvicewatchdog.com/Liberal-Companies-Boycott.html

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  14. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    People have been tweeting pictures of gay pride, and themselves with loved ones, to drown out content by the US far-right group.

    ***

    I, as many will know, occasionally frequent twitter. So far I have seen, so far, not one. Of either.

    I do recall noting that BBC staff prefer living on the platform in lieu of doing journalism.

    Maybe they might ponder why they see excessive posts from either group.

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  15. Roland Deschain says:

    The mad media has already decided on the next narrative.

    It will be interesting to see how many of them go down with it now.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Katty feints left.

      Lurch likely in the sewers.

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      • pugnazious says:

        Hang on….test, test, test….wasn’t that the WHO and BBC mantra? The cure-all solution.

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    • Banania says:

      What does “going down” with the virus mean? Almost nobody now is becoming ill.

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  16. JamesArthur says:

    Jesus R4 and all they can do is the usual..have one person on who is saying exactly what they want….all negative of course. Currently about testing….I really want to know who these people (David Pickles) are and how they get on.. never seem to meet anyone who hasn’t had an issue.

    And now again Jon Soapbox… he must be loving this…..sanctimonious twa*

    Banging on about WH staff taking off mask when talking.. depends on how far away the reporters were and where…
    Ha ha – he just said everyone who has been around them has to be tested – R4 bloke said including you Jon
    his response ..errr…I am considering it…then he admits most reporters were more than 2m away and plebs like him were outside.

    He is a liar and a super spreader of misinformation – more dangerous than Covid

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      James – Leave Soapy alone, he’s just hyperexcited about being at the geat COVID ‘epicentre’ of the White House. He was very nearly unable to speak at the thought of his own importance and verbosity.
      Evan Davis is almost as bad, cos he’s in North Carolina, where it all is according to him, swinging Biden’s way. Then again, we are told it is a swing state, which could go either way. Numerous US commentators, detailing the convoluted past and present of NC are trotted out. Evan tries to correct himself as to the number of days the election is away.
      No big secret what Soapy and Evan are hoping for, but the bbc being so impartial, they can’t quite spit it out.

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  17. digg says:

    PM Radio 4, reporter “Jon” telling the presenter, Evan I think,… how disgracefully people in the White House are acting over Covid spate saying all present should now be going to get tested ASAP. (Our Jon was there!)

    Presenter: “So that includes you Jon?…..”

    Jon: “Er, Er, Er umm yes I suppose I should be….”

    So our Jon had no issue with flying back to the UK after leaving the White House bubble and coming into the busy BBC studio to blast all the people in the White House who haven’t rushed to be tested without it seems first getting tested himself, you couldn’t make it up…

    LMAO if Evan has to take a couple of weeks off now!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      There is a long list of exemptions from house arrest . Having a personal interest I looked at them all . How a government can justify risking the public for the convenience of some but not others is beyond me .

      It is another example of the sheer incompetence of the current red Tory regime ….. such a Shame there is not ‘alt’….

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  18. fakenewswatcher says:

    digg – Soapy is really worried now. It seemed not to have occurred to him that he was also human, and thus also susceptible. He will console himself at the thought that he (allegedly) kept his distance.
    I wonder. He was anxious to display how he rubbed shoulders with the good and great…
    Can he have his cake and eat it?

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    • Guest Who says:

      Given Soapy’s evident lifestyle, with luck he enjoys all the private healthcare the BBC can charge pensioners here to provide him with there.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Let’s hope he gets covid (but isn’t too ill) and see how that goes down ….do you think we will hear about it?

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  19. Guest Who says:

    38 BeeGees needs more money!

    This one is from Mike, who matters. Apparently.

    This for all Rubes in Rubeshire.
    ​ ​ ​
    38 Degrees Logo
    Did you see the news Rube? Boris Johnson’s top pick has pulled out of the race to become the next chair of the BBC. [1]

    It means, though it was nothing to do with our sorry sulks given PR by, er, the BBC, we’re one step closer to preventing him appointing someone who would stop the BBC from looking as bent as a 9€ note.. But we can’t let up. [2]

    Boris Johnson is deciding, as PM, who to put in charge of the BBC right now. And already more than 80,000 of us have signed a petition telling him not to destroy the BBC as we know it. [3] Only 69,920,000 people have not! So it’s totally split, as the BBC tries to spin.

    As soon as the petition reaches 100,000 we’ll deliver it straight to Downing Street. Boris Johnson will know he can’t get away with his plans to “whack” our BBC. Assuming it gets past Doris in the mail room.

    So will you add your name today? By clicking the button below your name will be added automatically!

    SIGN WITH ONE CLICK

    Here’s what the petition says:

    We, well, licence fee payers, pay for the BBC so it can deliver Strictly, MOTD Gary stuff, EastEnders, Sherlock and Dr. Who (ok, still all we have got); continue to claim to be a trusted, independent news source when that is a bad joke few outside Frankie Howerd will buy; and follow Rog and Greta on issues like climate change. Plus keep Botney’s pension on track and cover Zoe, Samira and that odd bird from HR’s vast wedge.
    Keep it publicly funded, paid for by rubes to be pissed on and told it’s raining
    Put someone in charge who believes in the values of the BBC. People like Paul Mason, Gavin Esler or James O’Brien; true giants of impartial broadcasting.
    Do not prevent the media, well, the W1A #prasnews desk chums we have, from holding poli… Tory scum to account.
    Do not install a climate change denier as Chair. How about Sir Boaty? He’s a national treasure!

    Our BBC isn’t perfect. Ok, it’s so past its sell by date even CNN is simetimes embarrassed by it. But it needs to stay Our kind of ‘independent‘ (BBC quotes) to hold this powerful government to account so we can get in the kind that is powerful enough to be the last one in history as Citizen’s Assemblies we establish are appointed. In times like these, we need a properly, publicly funded public broadcaster we can rely on. No need to change that, you know who ‘we’ mean by ‘we’.

    Will you sign today with the click of a button?

    SIGN WITH ONE CLICK

    Thank you for everything you do,

    Mike, Stewart, Ellie, Sarah and the 38 Degrees staff team.

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  20. Guest Who says:

    Good job he is no longer at the bbc.

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  21. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Did you know that the BBC had a “Reality Check Team”?

    2020-10-05-1811-BBC-Reality-Check-Team.jpg

    The BBC also have an Anti-Disinformation Unit:

    2020-10-05-1811-BBC-Anti-disinformation-Unit.jpg
    http://www.bbc.com/corporate2/mediacentre/latestnews/2018/beyond-fake-news

    The BBC really are a 24 hours a day 7 days a week propaganda organisation

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    • Guest Who says:

      If they meet in the corridor, does the whole time-space continuum fold in on itself?

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  22. Guest Who says:

    I wonder if it was the twitter bio?

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  23. Guest Who says:

    An Ak-Tor has spoke:

    Now, as to the comments… how do I put this…

    😉

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  24. StewGreen says:

    7:35pm Australia Burning
    BBC Panorama hears from the people living in the path of last year’s bush fires in Australia, and asks whether such events are to become normal

    Thirty-four people died in Australia last year as the worst bush fires in living memory swept across the country. An area roughly the size of England was devastated and thousands of homes were destroyed. A year on, Panorama hears from the people living in the path of the fires and the firefighters who risked their lives to save them. And as this year’s fire season gets underway, Clive Myrie asks if these levels of destruction are to *become normal*
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000n9j1

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    • StewGreen says:

      9pm ITV Documentary following the Duke of Cambridge as he embarks on a campaign to champion global action on conservation and climate change.

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    • G says:

      “whether such events are to become normal”

      Answer? ‘Yes’. Certainly as long as the environmentalists, greens and all the other lunatics, let nature follow its course and refuse to create fire breaks in the landscape.

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  25. StewGreen says:

    9pm BBC 2 The stories of the ordinary people fighting for truth and justice following acts of terror in Syria

    Includes family of US hostage.
    Also from Belgium Jejoen Bontinck had grown up in a Christian home but turned his back on the church, finding a new brotherhood at a local mosque. When Jejoen disappears to Syria, Dimitri feels he has no option but to take drastic action, travelling to Syria in an effort to rescue his son.

    ep1 of 3
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000n7p0

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  26. Doobster78 says:

    Nicola a typical arrogant lefty. Anyone, anyone at all with a view different to the Left is immediately branded a Racist !!!!

    Good job he has got thick skin our Lawrence.

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  27. Van Helsing says:

    Arsenal FC is to make 55 people (including the mascot) redundant: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54424259

    I don’t know how much these people are actually paid, but for present purposes let’s be generous and assume that their average salary is £30,000 per annum. That works out at £1.65 million per year. Add in employers’ NI and pension contributions and the total comes to £1.9 million or so.

    In the same article, it is revealed that the club is in for a player whose release clause is said to be £45,000,000, which means (for those not interested in football) that the club will have to pay that amount in order to buy him. And that’s only the beginning of the spending: the player would demand a signing-on fee (say a few million) plus a sizeable salary, which I’d conservatively estimate at £5 million per year.

    Sickening, isn’t it?

    So much for the club, what about the top earners there, all of whom take the knee before every game in the so-called name of ‘equality’?

    I know that Arsenal’s first-team players are said to have taken a pay cut of 12.5% this year, but even so the top earners will be on several million a year.

    Might these highly paid SJWs be willing to club together and find the money required to keep the 55 in their jobs…in the name of equality. Or is their stance on the matter just, for want of a better word, horseshit?

    I think I know the answer to that one…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Van
      I don’t think the players currently residing up on cloud 9 would have any idea that the club is sacking people . Or care . I remember Harry rednapp saying about how he wasted his time explaining to younger players about the history of Spurs and they could care less …

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      • theleftwilleatitself says:

        🇮🇱 Disgraceful, what an obnoxious club! 🇮🇱

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      • Van Helsing says:

        Very true, Fed.

        Yer average, typical highly-paid player would appear to be the possessor of equal (and highly generous) quantities of greed, narcissism, ignorance and hypocrisy.

        Time was when I liked football. Time was…

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        • Scroblene says:

          Excerpt from a proper footballer’s Wiki…

          Stanley Matthews.

          “On 10 May 1947, immediately after a Great Britain versus Rest of Europe match in Glasgow (Britain won 6–1),[42] he made the move for £11,500, at the age of 32.[43] The match itself raised £30,000 for the four Home Nations Football Associations, and since the eleven British players received £14 each, Matthews questioned where exactly this money ended up – he doubted that much of it ended up as funding for grass-roots football.[44]”

          Sorry to say that Scrobs here thinks the whole bloody ‘game’ just stinks. The BBC pay huge sums to keep it all so ridiculously overpaid.

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  28. taffman says:

    “David Cameron criticised over migrant ‘swarm’ language”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33716501
    An old one but still relevant . Since that comment we have been invaded. Do we have more ‘illegals’ in the country now than we have soldiers in the British Army?
    Tory party ? – I think not , only by name . Vote for the Brexit Party next time .

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  29. Doobster78 says:

    Jon Sopel is mentally ill. BBC need to remove him from post.

    I think he was just trying to be “upbeat” Jon , you know, a bit of positivity in this crazy world.

    But no, you have to make it yet ANOTHER TDS tweet !!!!!

       30 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      It’s only the same as saying don’t be afraid of the flu
      Yep many people died of Covid, may die of flu each decade
      but the vast vast majority got through both of them easily

      I’m wondering if 20 million Americans have had Covid

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    • Scroblene says:

      Luckily, nobody really cares what Sopel says or does, he really is irrelevant, and reckoned to be a very weak little individual in what he calls ‘journalism’, but we know as shit-stirring.

         16 likes

  30. digg says:

    Not the BBC but I just watched Channel 4 news for a change.

    Channel 4 is described as a free-to-air “Public” Service Broadcaster.

    What I saw was a continuous unconcealed and vicious anti-Trump anti-republican political campaign throughout. The anti-Trump rhetoric was relentless.

    I have no doubt that there are large left-wing political forces driving the Channel 4 output from outside, probably as with the BBC who tend to tread just a little more carefully.

    Channel 4 has decided to become the UK political partner of the Democrat campaign going all-out 100% in an effort to unseat Trump.

    Unlike the BBC who attempt however weakly to hide it, Channel 4 obviously believe that they have the right and mission to spread left-wing propaganda and do so with vigour.

    Time is overdue for a balance in this battle against these two unholy politicised outfits foisted on the UK public. I hope the rumours of a new unbiased and impartial news broadcaster are fulfilled as these two incumbents make my stomach turn.

       43 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Digg
      Fortunately the viewing figures for the declining c4 news continue on fall- I don’t even think they get advertising any more ….

         35 likes

  31. Halifax says:

    BBC Lamenting the decline of Cinema and no James Bond film this year…….however there are 4 new releases all staring women and one is a Disney film called Soul.

    That will pack them in.

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  32. Fedup2 says:

    Halifax – let’s face it ‘go woke get broke ‘ applies . If they produce tick box films whic please themselves but not the audience then their industry will die . I reckon a lot of the profits land up in the US anyway ….

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  33. G says:

    Blacks want to be segregated from whitey –
    “How has it come to this?”

    “Britain’s first black university”

    Seems the 3.9% of the population want to segregate themselves from the 87%. Good. Might I make a suggestion? Go home to Africa and join the communities down there. The ultimate in segregation. Happy days. Let’s pass the hat round to help them on their way.
    Oh! hang on. That’s called ‘Crowd-funding’ these days.

       31 likes

    • Dobyns says:

      So much for, “I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. I have a dream today!”

         28 likes

    • G says:

      The video I gave a link to above is no longer available. It was of Alex Belfield.
      I can’t find it on Bitchute unfortunately. It was to do with Sainbury’s et al and giving a ‘safe space’ for employed blacks.

         2 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        Belfield put up a news Sainsbury’s video today
        he sometimes does delete a video
        i’ve seen it after he got something wrong.

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        • Bulldog says:

          Went into my local Sainsbury’s this afternoon, the entrance area had 2 advertising stands looking to recruit delivery drivers and part time assistants. Out of the 4 people pictured 3 were BAME, not remotely representative of the ethnicity mix of where I live in the South East.

          Isn’t it time all these overpaid TV and advertising marketing execs got off their backsides to research what the great British public, yes, even the BAME population, really thinks about this unrelenting promotion of diversity? When they get the inevitable negative feedback it clearly isn’t getting through to the boardrooms or is simply just being ignored – too late to change course now.

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  34. G says:

    Yes, I’m annoyed. Thought I’d settle down this evening and watch a good film on NetFlix. Everything I start is filled with black or asian faces. All unknowns. Stop and exit. Must consider where to go now when I depart NetFlix.

       41 likes

    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      G, download a film on frostwire for free, of your choosing and sit back and watch it 📼
      Don’t get in lather about Netflix 👍🏻

         10 likes

  35. Sluff says:

    Well well well.

    With all the billions at the disposal of Public Health England and NHS Test and Trace ( the world’s most envied healthcare system) it appears that 16,000 covid cases were missed because someone decided to use an old version of excel spreadsheets which have a max of 64000 rows. You just could not make it up.

    Now even I remember that issue.
    So If my IT knowledge exceeds theirs then we really are in deep deep do-do.

    More seriously do you get the distinct idea that some of our ruling class are determined to ensure that the government are seen to fail?

    Could they be Remoaners by any chance, still narked that the lost, and keen to somehow get their own back?

       23 likes

  36. BRISSLES says:

    Sluff, your info is more evidence of my comments about our Tech industry further up the page.

    I rest my case.

       8 likes

  37. Roland Deschain says:

    🤣

       16 likes

  38. tipple says:

    There is hope yet! He’s going to bring a court case against the German govt for crimes against humanity via the lockdown.

       12 likes

  39. taffman says:

    \\Manchester Arena Inquiry: Terror threat ‘not adequately assessed’//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-54425116
    Have the Channel invaders been “adequately assessed”?

       23 likes

    • The Mouse says:

      Taffman,
      “\\Manchester Arena Inquiry: Terror threat ‘not adequately assessed’//
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-54425116
      Have the Channel invaders been “adequately assessed”?”

      LESSONS WILL BE LEARN”T – WILL THEY SHITE – WE ALL KNOW THAT THEY ARE A BUNCH OF LIEING B*******DS AND IT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN ………………………… .

         5 likes

  40. taffman says:

    “MPs back bill to authorise MI5 and police crimes”
    Authorising ‘a licence to kill’ ?

       8 likes

  41. taffman says:

    \\“Covid could cause ‘tsunami of cancelled NHS operations’//
    How does that balance with deaths due to Covid?

       18 likes

  42. JimS says:

    South Park does Covid 19.

       4 likes

  43. fakenewswatcher says:

    Seems the President has returned to the White House.
    Soapy Sopel will be apoplectic….superspreader this, and the president responsible that, etc etc

       18 likes

    • gb123 says:

      The President may have found a way to stop the live grandstanding at the Whitehouse press conferences. They will all be masked or in HazMat suits so no-one can hear them properly.

         10 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        The actual on the ground situation at seats of power seems like a Petri dish for just about every nasty thing to get cooked up, literal and figurative.

        The WH seems even more fetid than the HoP lobby, with hundreds of weasels scurrying about sniffing every nook, cranny and butt.

        We have a noble canine in our house. Exercised, well fed. But he spends his entire time not asleep with his nose on the floor, seeking mouldy scraps. Disgusting. But his nature.

        There is a metaphor there somewhere.

        Politicians and media deserve each other.

        The public who fund them, in some cases by compulsion, deserve neither.

           9 likes

  44. taffman says:

    “Boris Johnson will pledge £160m for offshore wind power” He needs to pledge money on building up the Royal Navy, we are going to more ships to protect our shores, shipping and our fish. How long has he got as Prime Minister?

       29 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      Taff g’day!

      As Amber Rudd screwed our local fishing fleets in Hastings and Rye, despite being their MP once, I’ll not hold my breath.

      As a Kent man, I despair about our coastline being ravaged by foreigners at every turn, usually at our local expense. I never bother to listen to the local news, which is aimed at mental lightweights anyway, and the rags aren’t much better, so we have to shout all we can to anyone who might listen.

      Bollocks to wind power anyway, it’s an unproven way to let power companies lie to ‘customers’, and make huge profits. Boris should know this but he isn’t well.

         25 likes

      • taffman says:

        Scroblene
        ‘Bore da’ , that’s good morning here in Taffland.
        Priti has dumped a lot of trouble down in Penally near Tenby, one of Wales’ top holiday resorts . There will be trouble ahead .
        Boris and his wind farm ? He must be getting advice from his partner?

           17 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      Perhaps he can buy all the obsolete Danish and failing German ones off them cheaply, and stick ’em in the North sea as decorative ornaments for visitors to Skegness, and other places, to gaze in awe upon.

      This deliberate linking of wind turbines and COVID was recognised as a probable scenario, a long time ago. It is all beginning to fit together, this Great Reset plan, which Doris has clearly already subscribed to, with the help of the gullible, blinkered public.

      This is well worth a watch, if you have half an hour to spare….

         4 likes

  45. Guest Who says:

    Interesting. Being The Hill surely a pan-BBC RT fest?

    Possibly not on local bbc stations in certain towns with certain mayors….

       11 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Speaking of local bbc stations, they do seem keen on news from America, crafted as only they know how….

      ****

      President Donald Trump has made a dramatic return to the White House to continue his treatment for coronavirus after a three-night hospital stay.

      The president removed his mask on the balcony of the White House, where several staff and aides have tested positive for the virus in recent days.

         8 likes

      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        GW

        Here (bbbc radio newcastle) the bbbc said Trump RIPPED his mask off.
        Every sentence they say about him has a nasty meaning.

        I wonder if the bbbc think they are being clever, just like about brexit, everything good was despite Brexit and everything bad was because of Brexit.

           9 likes

  46. Guest Who says:

    My irony meter just spun like a Boris windmill.

       10 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Et, repetez…

         4 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Another outwoking job – Katy addressing the faithful . Mind you it does remind me of ‘triumph of the Will ‘ a bit.
        The snowflake bbc types encapsulate that Sneery European jaded attitude compare to the ‘can do ‘ positive American one ……
        ………I reckon that Americans seeing that their president is beating the Chinese virus will gain strength from it – not the negativity the BBC MSM throw at him.

        The narrative of Donald Trump ‘stole the election ‘ must be sitting in a file ready to go by now ….

           17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Strange isn’t it ? That snowflake BBC types have such a high expectation of ritual box ticking that they comment when it doesn’t happen . The huge BBC America contingent out Woking each other every day …

         14 likes

  47. Guest Who says:

    This put a spring in Marianna’s step too, so it seems it has the stamp of BBC Misinformation approval too.

       18 likes

  48. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    The senator who put personal tragedy aside to do what he thought was right in a bid to tackle the coronavirus crisis.

    ***
    Amazingly, a diverse Democrat.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54183191?

    “ Tony Vargas was dressed in a trim blue suit, dark hair neatly parted to one side, a pair of trendy thick frame glasses perched on his nose over a green cloth face mask. (not pictured)”

    Reminds me of when Laura K was on Ed Milipede door entry radiance duty.

    Comments, however….

    “Anyone notice that BBC never does puff pieces about Republicans?”

       15 likes

  49. Doobster78 says:

    Absolutely sickening to see the complete contempt these BBC staffers have for the President of the USA.

    Katty Kay, Nick Byant, Anthony Zurcher, Jon Sopel, Emily Maitliss etc have shown their truly disgusting bias in abundance these past few days.

    And they wonder why they get accused of being a Lefty organisation !!!!

    Lets imagine for just one moment this had happened on Obama’s watch and he went for a short ride to wave and thank his supporters. The BBC would be waxing lyrical !!!!

    What a great President they would say, even when he is ill he is thinking about his supporters.

    The Secret Service being in the car wouldn’t be a issue of course then, they would be part of his “bubble” and other excuses would be made.

    There would be a candle lit vigil in BBC Broadcasting House.

    For a National Broadcaster to treat the sitting President of our greatest ally in this way is just unforgivable.

       39 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Doob
      When mr trump wins the second term I wonder if their attitude will change much ? Get even worse than it is now ? His swamp draining quest will ratchet up and try to reverse the liberal infested bits of the government taken over during the Obama years ……it ll be a riot …

         22 likes

      • Doobster78 says:

        Fed – They will simply not be able to comprehend it when he wins.

        The BBC coverage will be a joy. All those tears and long faces.

        Hopefully a few , like Sopel, may just throw the towel in and leave !!!

        Fingers crossed.

           23 likes

  50. JamesArthur says:

    R4 this morning Nick the *nob is trying to give Rishi a hard time – he is being obnoxious and aggressive…but Rishi is staying calm

    And now Laura K pontificating about the Tories – all negative . It is like they are just having a talk between themselves. No news no insight no nothing..pure wind

    A bunch of sanctimonious left leaning hypocritical super fake spreaders who think they talk for ‘us’

       33 likes