417 Responses to Midweek Thread 23 September 2020

  1. NameNotNumber says:

    The Home Secretary said: “This is a sad day for our country and another terrible reminder of how our police officers put themselves in danger each and every day to keep the rest of us safe.’

    The saddest day for our country was when ‘liberals’, politicians and the BBC decided they would take it away from the British people.


  2. Guest Who says:

    Latest from 38 Beegees, and it is a cracker….

    38 Degrees Logo

    Dear Rube,

    This is scary. An anti-BBC lobby group have crowdfunded £60,000 to pay for billboards and Facebook adverts – scaling up their negative campaign to convince the public and politicians to defund the BBC. [1] They’re planning to raise hundreds of thousands more in the next few weeks. [2]

    If this group is left unchallenged to build a huge anti-BBC lobby, the future of our getting minority activist time prime time coverage will be on the line. It’s a risk we just can’t take.

    One of us alone couldn’t match their efforts. But there are thousands of us reading this email, and by working together we could run a counter-campaign so big they wouldn’t stand a chance. Assuming all reading it have signed up for reasons other than perverse interest.

    With enough of us on board, we could launch our own digital marketing campaign to show how valuable the BBC is to all of us, matching their ads punch for punch. So not only lawyers win, but now media companies too!

    But Rube, it will only work if we know that hundreds of thousands of us are on board to protect our BBC. So, are you in? Your response will be logged at the click of a button:


    The BBC is not perfect, and when they get things wrong viewers like us hold them to account by writing to their Complaints system. and then waiting six months to be told to sod off.. With dangerous fake news about just about everything on on all channels, this supposed public service broadcaster has never been so important for propaganda dissemination and undermining ideological foes. [3]

    From our children watching educational shows during lockdown like ‘ Fisting With Nish, to tuning into the Views at 10, the BBC provides invaluable programming for activist PR people across the country. [4] That’s why 38 Degrees members – that’s people like you – have come together to protect our BBC time and time again when they have stuck it to the public once too often before. [5] With a new anti-BBC lobby growing in power and money each day, we need to step up. It is crazy to expect the BBC to try and be what its Charter obliges it to be, so they have asked us to run interference in return for a lot of coverage of pet outrages.

    But we can only match them if enough of us on board. So, are you up for protecting our BBC? Hit the button below:

    I’M IN… SANE

    Thanks for everything you do,

    Maggie, Ruby, Gary, Zoe, Mishal, BS, Faisal, Kamal, Tim, Fran and the 38 Degrees team


  3. Dobyns says:

    Meanwhile back in the US …

    ST. PETERSBURG, FLA: Protestors are now going restaurant by restaurant to chant at diners on Beach Dr. in St. Pete.


  4. Guest Who says:

    Could not happen to a more deserving weasel.

    That said, when the bbc, especially those impartial professionals at ‘Politics’, hide behind ‘critics’ in this manner, one might wonder who else would be accorded such coverage. Or not.


  5. Fedup2 says:

    Not BBC – im under house arrest again . This afternoon i had a phone call from the government asking me if i was going to be obeying the rules .

    The kid doing the call got the same response a TV licencinc inspector would …. can you guess what i might have said .. after making sure it was being taped ….


  6. Guest Who says:

    Oh, please… make it so, Number Two.


  7. Sluff says:

    Been out today so apologies if late.

    BBC1 6 pm news. First item is the murder of a policeman.
    By 6.05 pm it was on to the second item. Have the BBC nothing further to say on the matter? Might their political correctness and pro BAME agenda be exposed?

    Presumably the investigative journalists who have covered George Floyd these past few months just cannot bring themselves to ask a few questions. Here are some suggestions.

    1. What is the Croydon Custody Centre? Surprisingly hard to find detail via google. I’m guessing immigration-related as in another context it would just be a Police Station, no?
    2. Any more information on the 23 year old man? You know. Ethnicity. That sort of thing.
    3. Why was he not searched? Someone under orders to manipulate the Stop and Search statistics?
    4. The murderer had been on the security services radar. Why?
    5. Why was this person in this country?

    Readers will have no difficulty thinking of other relevant questions.

    Unlike the BBC.


    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      Sluff, if this turns out to be a black dude killing a white police officer then I think BLM in this country is fu**ed 👍🏻


    • jazznick1 says:


      2. Telegraph understand the he is of Sri Lankan origin.
      4. He was known to security services but of minor interest
      (until now).


      • Fedup2 says:

        Left , jazz

        There is also the possibility that the cop was coloured – which will also turn up the heat .

        The silence of detail is dealing as usual – move along please …


    • BRISSLES says:

      Its been mentioned that one of the arresting officers was a Special Constable, so clearly concerns are raised that the training wasn’t as it should be.


  8. Fedup2 says:

    Do you notice how suspected islamic terrorism in paris gets scant coverage by the BBC but stuff in america gets the full treatment ? Good evidence of pro islamic – anti trump BBC bias / propaganda methinks

    As for the killed police sergeant – will it still be news by 10pm – simultated ritual grief from politicians – including – incredibly the thick dawn tinted windows Butler MP who even popped on on the twitter . Im surprised she did t just say ‘ one less’


    • Guest Who says:

      Surprised Rob did not trot out ‘thoughts and prayers’ too, but Sadiq snagged that one for today.


      • Guest Who says:


      • Guest Who says:

        Damage control at the bbc on par with The Met.


        • Fedup2 says:

          A bit of good news on a sad day – the last place you’ll find anything like a decent journo is the BBC these days ….


      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        The BBC statement mentions “… the irreverent and much-loved This Week”. If it was much-loved, why on earth did the BBC get rid of it? They had a winner with Top Gear and ruined that; and now A Question of Sport is likely in jeopardy too. The BBC – biased and sure knows how to pick a loser.


    • G.W.F. says:

      Not much information about the murdered police officer. No details about him yet. It did occur to me that he may be a black officer, hence Dawn Butler’s comments. And if his murderer turns out to be a far right white extremist, then all hell will break loose.


  9. Concrete sea says:

    The Beeb reports that ‘Mayor of London Sadiq Khan said the city was at “a worrying tipping point” with hospital admissions increasing’.
    Priorities please Sadiq. Surely there are statues to take down, streets and places to rename. Dear oh dear.The man doesn’t seem to know what he is doing.


  10. Guest Who says:

    On my pad it is captioned ‘Buffer’. Apt.


    • pugnazious says:

      Marr allowed to go off ranch to spread pro-BLM anti-British propaganda…history must be re-written to suit the new colonists. It’s a narrative of course that the BBC has aways pushed…no such thing as ‘Britishness’ etc….Marr echoes it here…

      ‘Question? One of them, at least is: who are the British?’

      As if we don’t know who we are….according to him we are a ‘country which lacks an agreed national story .’ However he and his colleagues are busy trying to re-educate us and to re-invent us….black-face us.

      He thinks it should be defined by the immigrants.

      He talks continuously of uniting the country and yet the BBC’s every move is to spread division, distrust and hate.

      Most dangerous organisation in Britain. Dismantle, defund, destroy it.


      • Up2snuff says:

        pug, surely Marr cannot be that thick and have completely forgotten what he was taught at Primary School and in the early years of Secondary School.

        Or was he reading from a BBC Standard Script that has to be followed or face ridicule or the sack?

        Or perhaps he is suffering from not just the aftermath of his stroke but early dementia and memory loss? I don’t know what ‘extra’ consumables apart from normal food & drink, Marr has had in his lifetime but ‘extras’ can take their toll in later life.


  11. Guest Who says:

    Another reminder of what £5,000,000,000 and 20,000 staff cannot buy. Apparently.



  12. Guest Who says:

    ‘Expert panel’ 🤩


  13. Guest Who says:

    Lurch may RT this. Or not.


  14. Guest Who says:

    A person from a very small bubble opines…


    • Fedup2 says:

      Dimbleby should just look in the mirror if he wanted work work out rising mistrust …

      There’s a new weekend thread up ……


    • pugnazious says:

      Wow….out in the open and quite blatant with the hate….

      ‘David Dimbleby interview: ‘There is something obnoxious about Dominic Cummings — he’s like a machinegun’’

      The other day Campbell was talking about the covid19 vaccine and ‘refuseniks’ who wouldn’t take it…note the prejudiced language as if they are immoral and bad people for having their own reasons not to take a vaccine.

      Despite having the BBC’s own technology expert on the programme he also wheeled in the Guardian’s technology editor Alex Hern who blamed Cummings in a pretty sordid assault on him saying Cummings ‘Does not do governing with the consent of the defeated …if you didn’t vote Tory he doesn’t care about you and his law breaking encourages others to also break the law or be immoral’.

      Pure character assassination….which is why he was wheeled in…to say things no BBC employee could so openly say.

      Campbell tried to defend Cummings saying ‘Two wrongs don’t make a right’…..oh, hang on…not actually defending him but keeping up the lie that Cummings did something wrong when he went up to Barnard’s Green…..even though the police said he did nothing illegal and didn’t break social distancing rules.

      BBC have Cummings in their sights and still hope to bring him down.

      Trump was nearly killed by a Brit undoubtedly fired up by the BBC’s torrent of anti-Trump rhetoric, police in America are being shot..again the BBC’s anti-Police narrative must add fuel to the fires, and its tidal wave of anti-Cummings abuse helps create the atmosphere that anything can be said or done to him.

      The BBC is dangerous…it seeks to destroy this country and America, their history, their political systems and their social fabric…and not least the demographics….too hideously white.


      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        FYI, it was Barnard Castle in Co. Durham.


      • Up2snuff says:

        pug, machine gun – obnoxious? Yes in peace-time to civilians.

        To an unarmed soldier in a combat zone? Very different.

        Dimbleby? Dim, devious and dangerous.

        What has really become apparent in the last six months is that the Government are unarmed soldiers in a combat zone.


  15. StewGreen says:

    “BBC Truth” vs the real world re The Mayflower
    Today was part 2 of the Radio Lincolnshire history show to CELEBRATE 400 years of the Mayflower arriving in America
    with people originated from Lincolnshire.
    Except Hortin the BBC presenter has got the slavery guilt bug and wants to inject that into the story.

    Last week he claimed the Pilgrim Fathers captured Indians as slaves.
    As I said he he has almost certainly mixed up the case of an earlier English Trader who had a bungled attempt at grabbing 20 Indians and selling them as slaves in Malaga. The Spanish Friars in Gibraltar put a stop to that. Squanto was the most famous he stayed with the monks, then to London then back home to America where he already was before the Mayflower arrived and soon worked as their interpreter.

    This week Hortin was keen to inject slavery again
    He told the local Mayflower expert #1
    “You know when the Mayflower arrived in 1620
    there were already slaves at the Jamestown colony much further south. They’d come the year earlier”
    .. You could hear the expert thinking ..’what the heck , I can’t contradict the presenter, I’ll keep shtum”

    As ever it’s a bit grey, there was no official slavery until 1640 or 1662
    Yeh there had been Africans working since Jamestown in 1619, and they had originated as slaves held on a Portuguese ship, but when a British merchant captured the ship and brought the cargo to Jamestown he didn’t sell them as slaves, he sold them as indentured labourers to work among the British indentured labourers. AFAIK they gained their freedom after the contract, but one didn’t John Punch had escaped so in 1640 he was sentenced to be enslaved for life. He is counted as the first slave.
    The unfair thing is that 2 whites indentured labourers who’d escaped with him had only been given one extra year in servitude.
    In 1662 a law was passed recognising slavery .

    The presenter then also told local Mayflower expert #2
    He himself is of Caribbean descent and had just written a pamphlet about the Mayflower. But he too, was hesitant, and didn’t want to contradict,
    ‘oh I haven’t included that in my work maybe I should go back and include it’

    Item is about 3h30m into the show