Midweek Thread 16 September 2020

The BBC Annual Report is published . Maybe the new Director General will give interviews about the biased anti British BBC And its’ future ? Certainly the BBC website has chirped about the £12.88 a week the taxpayer must pay each week for its’ output. To some £12.88 might not be much per week . But on a ‘full’ State pension of £175.20- that is 7% of a persons’ income demanded by the BBC – which has expressed an aim to appeal to the ‘younger’ person! .

Such a funding model can’t be justified – even without the Woke Mission the BBC has undemocratically given itself – if there is no representation – there should be no taxation – defund the BBC

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437 Responses to Midweek Thread 16 September 2020

  1. G.W.F. says:

    Me First. Defund the BBC.


  2. brexiteerkent says:

    DEFINITELY defend the BBC

    Newsnight report on the ‘Far right’

    ‘ Far right groups ‘ being ‘violent’ in Dover and ‘harrassing asylum seekers’ in their 5 star hotels. How terrible, there are lists of such hotels on the internet they say ..

    Mrs was so angry she has stormed out of the room. What a biased distorted load of +++. Why is having the same concerns the majority of the indigenous population have ‘ far right’. Has the BBC ever said’ far left’, ever ?


    • StewGreen says:

      look who attacked Newsnight


    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      The BBC call the generation of British people that died defending the world against Nazism far right and racist in a complete reversal of reality and history. They even want Winston Churchill’s statue toppled because they call him a racist and an offense to the ‘progressive’ society.

      Clearly the BBC are actively working to subvert and overthrow the British people and their way of life and in an ironic twist they are getting the British people to pay for it all. I think the minimum a concerned British citizen should ask for is the removal of the TV licence.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I wonder how amenable people would be if 7% of all weekly income went to the BBC – if average income is £2500 per month – 600 a week say – so you’d pay about £40 a week to the BBC a week ….

        Just got to be defunding . The government was due to issue the findings of the ‘consultation on decriminalisation – yet nothing – silence – and that to me suggests there will be no change ……

        Just to add to this zoey ball is on £3739 a day – kate hoey on twitter raises this if any one can cut and paste it please …

        On the 7% principle zoey would pay the bbc about £1800 a week for her TV licence


      • taffman says:

        The hotels must be full because I understand that an army base in Taffland is now being used to house the invaders ? Is the Tory Party deliberately allowing this invasion by stealth?
        It is about time the danger was brought up in Parliament.
        The Labour Party are very silent about this ?


      • Up2snuff says:

        Yes, BoBotC, and when an MP in the UK Parliament is threatening to overturn democracy in the UK is described – historically and correctly – as a Nazi, the person providing the correct description is imprisoned. It would have helped if the application and manner of the description had been without any whiff of harrassment or threat. However, that person prosecuted and imprisoned for the crime of description would no doubt now be labelled by the BBC as ‘Far Right’ when in fact that (or Far Left – they are the same) ‘Far Right’ and Nazi title was entirely correct for the MP.

        (Bones or Spock-type voice from Star Trek) ” It’s 1984, Jim, but not as the author titled it. ”

        ‘Good is bad, truth is lies, conflict is largely peaceful, we are wrong but got it mostly right.’


    • StewGreen says:

      Previous work from BBC Newsnight editor Yasminara Khan working with HnH HateyNoHopers
      : Jan 2019
      .. it’s not a surprise that they’d do another smear job.


  3. taffman says:

    “Trump hails ‘dawn of new Middle East’ with UAE-Bahrain-Israel deals”
    Will Al Beeb nominate President Trump for a Nobel Peace Prize ?


  4. Oldspeaker says:

    Fantastic story? bbc fact check to the rescue please. After watching again it seems a bit hokey, but what do I know.


  5. Scroblene says:

    Just as an aside, comments over on Guido seem about the same as ours here – 99.9% pizzed off… (can’t see the .1% at the moment, it must be a typo)!

    The ‘nerd’ in me calculated that just those 33 Beeboids cost nearly sixty thousand licences (or tax demands as they are seen by most citizens).

    Someone also pointed out that these sums don’t include pensions, expenses, 1st class travel, etc…

    Peter Sellers was on TV years ago, and made a joke of his early years as a comedian, doing a matinee. The small afternoon audience was dead quiet, and he said that he felt ‘the waves of hate’, come across to him on stage from a tight-lipped crowd.

    That same hate is beginning to get through to the beeboids at last, and I hope it hurts.


  6. Guest Who says:

    So, which one gets the massive pay rise first?


    • tarien says:

      Do we really need anymore news from this ravaged Islamic country, surely matters here in the UK are depressing enough not to want to add further depression?


  7. Guest Who says:

    First line applies to most bbc reports.


  8. Guest Who says:

    How American BS ‘manage’ this one will be interesting.

    Maybe…. they’ll just ignore it?


  9. Right Angle says:

    Oh, the BBC annual report is out? Didn’t dive into the DM this time, but here are a couple of other links:


    Both give the link to the full report. Hmm … yes, I know we are supposed to read the original source for ourselves … so I took a deep breath and bravely clicked on one of the links, all ready to come up with new info that was not in either blog …

    … I am sorry to say that I gravely overestimated my staying power. I took ages and repeated attempts just to get past the front cover. Then I got stalled at this:

    “Presented to Parliament by the Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport by Command of Her Majesty”. BBC! If I may say so (“and I do say so” – Margaret Thatcher), I think you are not one bit worthy of your Royal Charter. Not after all the bias that has been amply documented on this and other blogs for so many years.

    The next page was the Contents page, and I somehow managed to reach the end. And stopped there. This was page 1. That was the sum total of my progress, sorry!

    Hats off to all those who did get through the 260+ pages of smug, blind, brazen bias!


  10. andyjsnape says:

    Violence and hostility: Inside the French police, “reports” the bBC

    … in the wake of the Gilets Jaunes protests and the Black Lives Matter movement.

    Gilets = protests
    blm = movement


  11. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Does the Covid-19 Virus affect peoples brains, even for those who haven’t had it?

    Archbishop Justin Welby is getting headlines on the programme this morning. The Archbishop ought to be intelligent enough to know that a political pronouncement from him would be latched onto by the BBC especially, but that the words that Anglicans – and the wider Christian community – in the UK and around the world would want to hear would be the proclamation of the Gospel ie. the good news about Jesus, His life, teaching, death and resurrection, ascension and return.

    But no.

    Sadly not ….


  12. Guest Who says:

    WATCH THIS: Overpaid blonde and her ‘public’.


  13. Guest Who says:

    She is looking forward to Fick Ange at the box.

    Bet JezBo is rooting for both. And Lies Doucet.



    • Fedup2 says:

      Ms Nandy can talk on the TV when given the BBC easy ride treatment but as far as knowledge of Foreign Affairs- on an equal footing with Diane abbots counting skills … shame – in a way – that there is no real challenging opposition apart from slogans and personal attacks .

      Talking of slogans – Ian – people of Scotland – Blackford announced as an aside that the SNP will be pushing for another referendum in 2021 – ….. but then again 2022, 2023,….pattern …..


  14. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Not so deadly after all

    Alexei Navalny is featured in the BBC headlines and on the front page of the BBC House Journal a.k.a. the Guardian newspaper.

    Remember the Salisbury Poisonings? The BBC told us how deadly a Novichok poison could be. The merest smear and you would be dead, possibly instantly. Now we have another ‘survivor’ and we will soon be in double figures if President Putin keeps spreading it about.

    Ah, yes, Putin. Surely someone like that, with the resources of the FSB (the old KGB) behind him, if he wanted someone, a political opponent or whistle-blower, dead he could arrange it more efficiently and effectively? Apparently not.

    No questions asked by the BBC so far. There is still time.


  15. AsISeeIt says:

    A minor headline on the FT front page soberly reminds us this morning that in July: ‘Jobless rate rises above 4%’ – and that’s with furlough extending into the autumn. Employment armageddon pre-Christmas, we wonder?

    So where are our trades unions and why don’t they call for a proper end to lockdown?

    Well, unions are not what they used to be. The strongest unions are in our public sector and they are sitting pretty. Securely employed they are really just political campaign organisations. Notably our NHS has been lording it over the nation all year, doing what they want when they want, mainly complaining about the Torys and shooing patients away. GPs and hospital staff have really had little to complain about in this supposed finest hour of their’s.

    The civil service are still not properly back at work.

    As for the teachers, they went truant in March on full pay, so as to avoid the kids, and have hardly been seen since.

    The most powerful trades union of all is the FPBBC (female presenters on the BBC) who have landed themselves massive pay rises, as the Daily Mail points out: ‘Zoe’s £1m pay rise (after losing 1m listeners)’

    The Express points to: ‘Fury as BBC pay soars, but free TV licences still get axed…’

    The Mirror, a friend to the BBC on this, admiringly observes: ‘Golden Ball. Coining it in Strictly’s Zoe Ball. Lineker’s £400k pay cut makes Zoe BBC’s top earner’ – as you’ll recall from the hey days of unions, it’s all about the differentials.

    The BBC’s on-line newspaper front page line up gives prominence to the Star (after the Guardian, of course) since we guess the Beeb enjoy that tabloid’s headline: ‘What a circus!’ relating to ‘…the latest testing fiasco…’ – I’ll give no sympathy to the twin clowns, Boris ‘Bozo’ and Hancock ‘Coco’, their cowardice in the face of Chinese Flu has shanghaied us all.

    The Mail wants us all tested and blames the government: ‘Why ARE they still failing the test?’ and launches the unimaginatively titled campaign: ‘Get Britain tested’ – I’ve had a think about this and it’s a no win situation. Test positive and you’re the leper – locked down in quarantine for a fortnight. Test negative and you’re good to go – but only until the next time you’re tested – meanwhile frightened you’ll catch it. An endless vicious circle of fear and paranoia.

    The Metro jumps aboard the testing bandwagon and attempts to put the blame at the top and exonerate the testing staff: ‘They want to help but… Sorry sight: Workers at a testing centre in Cambrigde and Twickenham yesterday’

    The accompanying pics of staff sitting idle amist a forrest of traffic cones and crowd control barriers marking walkways and queuing areas for presumably thousands of cattle-like humans seem deeply depressing – and not for the reasons the Metro seems to think.

    Rather than some hoped for gateway to health and safety these pictures look to me like the entrance to a yet to be occupied impromptu prison camp.

    Can’t help but notice the Star’s bikini babe today is boasting only ’25c’ although she does suggest: ‘Summer is back’ – not for much longer luv, better wrap up soon, you’ll catch yer death…


    • tarien says:

      I could not agree more AsISeeIt, ‘Get Britain tested’ – I’ve had a think about this and it’s a no win situation. Test positive and you’re the leper – locked down in quarantine for a fortnight. Test negative and you’re good to go – but only until the next time you’re tested – meanwhile frightened you’ll catch it. An endless vicious circle of fear and paranoia.’ That is it exactly -Fear and Paranoia, that has been the object of the government? No surely not? Not in such a Christian country, surely nothing to do the New World Order which has been the aim-compliance, subjugation, control of us non-Islamic peoples, is that the score? Yes think it probably is-the Devil has actually landed. Hold your hat on.


  16. Guest Who says:

    At risk of further censure for poor posting form, I hereby announce I shall be extending the acronym ‘BS’ to ‘£BS’ from now on.



  17. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    So less than about twelve hours after the historic Trump brokered Israel – Bahrain and Israel – UAE peace deals we had as main stories on the BBC website:

    BBC Homepage: Trump: I don’t think science knows about global warming
    • An old story mocking Donald Trump for being a Climate Change denier. This is one of a series of BBC reports accusing Donald Trump of endangering the planet.

    BBC News homepage: Trump denies minimising Covid risk
    • A new BBC report on the subject of the allegation that Donald Trump downplayed Coronavirus and is responsible for tens of thousands of deaths. This is one of a series of BBC reports accusing Donald Trump of deliberately downplaying Coronavirus and being responsible for tens of thousands of deaths.

    BBC World news homepage:
    Trump denies minimising Covid risk
    See above.
    Criminal inquiry opened into John Bolton’s book
    • A new BBC report on the subject of the allegations made against Donald Trump in John Bolton’s new book which the BBC has claimed makes Trump a racist, a sexist and a crook. This is one of a series of BBC reports that publishes as fact unproveable anti-Trump allegations made in various gossip and anti-Trump books published to coincide with the US election.


    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      I missed another anti-Trump report on the BBC News homepage which is a “featured article” meaning it is featured in the margins of other BBC news and related articles to ensure you don’t miss it:
      Five things Trump has said about the environment

      This is basically another anti-Trump hatchet job accusing Donald Trump of endangering the environment, the future of the planet and peoples health.

      Nowhere on the BBC News homepage is news of the historic peace agreements between Israel and Bahrain & UAE.

      Note my entries on the last page of the previous “Start the Week Thread” which gives details on how the BBC handled the news of the peace agreements.

      Start the Week Thread 14 September 2020

      (and scroll down a few comments)


      • Scroblene says:

        And yet another on R5Dying last night.

        Suzanne Courtney egging on a Hong Kong reporter to say that President Trumps tariffs were a global bad deal, and that she knew better…

        As if…


    • Seppers says:

      I’m someone who, for the time being, is placing trust in the scientists re mm climate change.
      Trump appears not to have the same opinion as me, and so I’m not a natural fan. I also disagree massively with his stance on guns.
      Nonetheless I can see that his work in the middle east seems to be really something. And maybe he should get that peace prize.
      Therefore, if someone like me takes this view it begs the question: how much do the beeb misjudge how people will react to their bias? And do they really think people have no nuance of opinion?


      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        Hi Seppers – some here on this forum may be scientists and know how these things work.

        There is something called fallacy by authority. Those not trained in science and scientific research, and those not knowledgeable in particular narrow scientific fields will always be vulnerable to fallacy by authority.


        • Seppers says:

          I respect others’ views and have an open mind. Going with it for now though.


        • StewGreen says:

          I really do NOT go around correcting people
          but it’s “The Fallacy of Argument from Authority”
          You say something is “true”
          And I say how do you know it’s true ?
          You say cos I am a small man, but the big authority man said it’s true.

          The big authority men maybe scientists, maybe the Emperor’s top advisors

          So when the small boy says he disagrees with the Emperor’s top advisors and the Emperor’s new suit is fake.
          Is he wrong ?

          BTW The media tend to cherrypicking tricks like ‘expert shopping’, phoning around experts until they get the answer they want.
          “Do you think the Arctic will Icefree by 2050 ? Ah the other guy says 2040, do you think it could be earlier ?” etc.
          And that is how they ended up airing Professor Peter Wadhams again and again
          ..and his prediction years keep on passing by.


      • taffman says:

        What’s your opinion on Al Beeb and its bias ? Do you pay the Telly Tax? I am sure that one or two of us would like to know .


  18. Fedup2 says:

    Sorry – yes I trod a bit heavily – I just don’t like being deceived . It’s one of the reasons I hate the BBC so much – I’ll lighten up with a bit of death . kamal Nuur was – I think 18 . His life didn’t amount to much because he was stabbed to death in Islington on Monday – source Evening Standard . You’ll guess the killers’ description which is why nothing is made of this .

    I wince when the press describe it as ‘senseless ‘ implying there are sensible stabbing murders . Do you notice such killings get as much attention as the daily invasion . …..somethings can be ‘bigged up ‘ and others not …


  19. fakenewswatcher says:

    The only appropriate response to people like the obscene Zoe Ball (plus all her other untalented mates in the bbc elite, who are paid ludicrous salaries) earning over £3000 a day is to withhold 100% of the licence fee.
    Also, we are getting large doses of repeat programmes, both on TV and radio…most of which are garbage anyway.
    The insult to licence fee payers is thus actually doubled, as the bbc income is increased by swallowing up over 75s.


  20. Guest Who says:

    Clever girls. Or the women.

    BBC has taught them well.


  21. Doublethinker says:

    I have been following the latest Brexit row and how it has been reported with interest . There is no doubt that since the new editors took over at the Mail and at the Telegraph these two newspapers have become much more pro EU and softer on illegal immigration. They have also become even more anti Trump. But their readership , judging by the comments they write, has remained staunchly pro Brexit, anti mass immigration and more supportive of the President. But consumers of news are ignored by the ‘producers’ of news, the BBC being the very best example that. How long can falling circulation and viewing figures be sustained before some sections of the MSM take heed of their consumers? Who pays the wages ? ( excepting the stste funded BBC of course)
    The disturbing thing is that there are now even fewer MSM outlets that are not pro EU,anti Trump and soft on migration . In the UK we are starved of news not seen through the prism of global Wokism. Will News GB be any different , it is owned by a globalist, and if it is different how long will it be allowed to survive?
    We know that in the US Fox has followed the move to the left we see over here. We know that right of centre social media outlets are constantly attacked by their providers. Can the likes of Rush Limbaugh become the only sources of non globalist news?
    It is very clear that the MSM globally has been or is about to be captured by the global Wokists. What happens when there is no anti globalist news , when we never hear of any resistance to globalism even though there might be plenty? The Globalists control what we see hear and know, we live in sinister Orwellian times.


    • taffman says:

      Maybe, just maybe, Great Britain will be the catalyst for change. If all the people in this country had the bottle and courage to join the ‘Telly Tax’, the first casualty will be political correctness and wokeism.
      Remember “You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time”


      • Doublethinker says:

        Yes if the BBC is forced to become subscription only it will reduce the amount of fake Woke news and potentially allow more space for the truth to be reported. Of course it may be that another Wokist outlet moves into the space created by reduction in the BBC audience. But at least there is a chance that it might be filled by impartial truths rather than Wokist propaganda.. It would also send a signal to the Woke commercial MSM that people are starting to assert their rights as consumers.
        I have taken to urging everyone I know to stop paying the License Fee. No good waiting for government we can do it ourselves.


    • tarien says:

      Straighten the mis-information from the EU- it is they who are in breach of breaking international Law. The following shows:
      More than four years after a clear majority of the British electorate voted to leave the European Union, we are at a critical juncture once again on the final stage towards a fully free, independent, and sovereign United Kingdom.
      The Government is now endeavouring to protect the integrity of our Union from the EU’s apparent extreme interpretation of the Withdrawal Treaty.
      To quote the Prime Minister’s article in the Daily Telegraph of Sat 12 Sept 2020:
      “We are now hearing that, unless we agree to the EU’s terms, the EU will use an extreme interpretation of the Northern Ireland protocol to impose a full-scale trade border down the Irish Sea.
      “We are being told that the EU will not only impose tariffs on goods moving from Great Britain to Northern Ireland, but that they might actually stop the transport of food products from GB to NI.
      “I have to say that we never seriously believed that the EU would be willing to use a treaty, negotiated in good faith, to blockade one part of the UK, to cut it off, or that they would actually threaten to destroy the economic and territorial integrity of the UK. This was for the very good reason that any such barrier, any such tariffs or division, would be completely contrary to the letter and the spirit of the Good Friday Agreement.”
      It is our collective assessment – backed by highly-respected and EU-experienced lawyers – that the European Union is in serious and material breaches of its ‘good faith’, ‘best endeavour’s and other obligations under the Withdrawal Agreement, in which it committed to respect the UK’s sovereignty and internal market. We therefore believe that the Government is entitled to act to protect the UK to the fullest extent from EU demands purportedly based on this document, and that such action is justified under international law on account of these breaches.
      The Union must be preserved and the Government and Parliament must have the absolute right to determine the policies and laws adopted on behalf of the British people, with no interference from any EU body. That is where we stand-the EU are wetting their pants as the UK begins to row away from them-it might be said that many of the 27 nations who make up the European Union are not of one accord; It has to be seen whether some may remove themselves from the EU.


  22. Guest Who says:

    CNN. Spiritual RT… reporting home of BBC American BS.


  23. Up2snuff says:

    I don’t know how true this is but – according to Guido’s reading of the BBC’s Annual Report, Carrie Gracie has still not left the BBC.

    Gracie is doing far better than Elvis – he left the building – she must have more suckers on more tentacles than a squid.

    Carrie Gracie resigned over two years ago, then around a year ago, then about a month ago and it seems she is still there. BBC HR Department will soon be looking for a large bloke who is handy with a crowbar.


  24. G says:

    In the quest for establishing who and what is all about changing our World to suit their purposes, I came across these two gems. Personally, I rate The Duran for common sense.
    If you have an hour or so to spare, I highly recommend viewing these, in sequence:


  25. Guest Who says:

    Jo Brand meets Nish, and has a… panellist.


    • scribblingscribe says:

      Thank you Guest, I avoid the BBC so wouldn’t have known about it. It is disgraceful. Where are the police?


    • tarien says:

      Three cheers for all whitey people-the others would still be locked into a tribal feudalism if they had never left Africa-any that escaped would have been fodder for the Arab slave traders. It took whitey many centuries of development before there was any semblance of a civilisational structure, now whitey appears or its government appears to be returning back 1000 years or so. Technology was white man’s introduction, all races are enjoying the benefits there of, until the savage arrive to control the government-not far away.


    • Guest Who says:

      Others have noticed.

      Note: Frankphobic language


    • Seppers says:

      Apparently whiteness is a capitalist structure.
      I’m so white I’m almost blue, so I must be really particularly part of a really capitalist type structure. Whereas any black person I know living the same sort of life, working in the same job, presumably isn’t. (She didn’t say what structure they were.)
      And there was me thinking my whiteness was evolution based on how hot it was where my ancestors came from.
      But I’m glad she’s updated me.


  26. StewGreen says:

    London streetspace scheme
    You saw the demo where residents and taxi drivers were swearing at Khan
    Steve McNamara general secretary of the @LTDA had previously called for less demos and more talking to politicians
    But the City of London is now cut in half because of unworkable roads closures .
    …. McNamara on TalkRadio on Tuesday argued that, the councils are just full of middle class bike riders , who listen to the talk
    … and the just do what they want anyway, ignoring taxi drivers & residents.


  27. Cagna Guardia says:

    R3 can beat all the rest of the BBC when it tries. Mayflower Portraits on Tuesday night (10.45pm – worth a listen). Margaret Verble (Cherokee Nation like Elizabeth Warren) tells the tale of Squanto, who did play a big role in the survival of the Pilgrims. But the real tale is of whitey’s enslavement of Indians, our releasing of many pandemics to slaugher them all and the resulting lack of planting of the 3 miracle staples of America (maize, beans, squash) which therefore caused the Little Ice Age (climate catastrophe). Then the Amerindian slaves were replaced by blacks (no mention of English indentured servants who worked the early plantations). Four glorious woke stories in 15 minutes.
    Beat that.


  28. fakenewswatcher says:

    R4’s ‘More or less’ has just berated us all for taking in too few (mostly illegal?) ‘migrants’.
    Apparently Germany take in 10 for every 100,000 population, Sweden 12 and we only take in 1.
    Besides considering this to be complete BS (Look around London or many other big cities), I fail to see what Tim Harford is getting all excited about. We are under no obligation to take in anyone.
    Maybe we could increase our intake, and send all the extras to live with Lord Hal Hall, Zoe Ball, Gary Lineker and, oh yes, Tim Harford.


    • StewGreen says:

      [email protected] why did Tim Harford say
      “16 year old Sudanese BOY drowned near Calais”

      & not the truth
      “28 year old Sudanese MAN” ?
      The age the media reported was corrected by French authorities within hours @BBCRadio4


    • StewGreen says:

      We take in the most on official UN scheme
      but 94% don’t use that scheme.

      If you include all we rank 6th
      Adjusting for population we rank 20th
      Harford then rushed on to say only Portugal takes less
      … Hang on the data is all European countries ie 40 countries ..so actually we are in the middle.


      • StewGreen says:

        but Harford used a language trick
        He said the UK ranked 20 in front of Portgal
        Then garbled
        “behind all other *WESTERN* European countries”

        which libmob falsely heard as
        “fewer people .. than any other EU country”
        No half of other EU countries took less, but they are in the east.


        • Peter Grimes says:

          “ No half of other EU countries took less, but they are in the east.”

          Where the population is still greatly majority white and nominally Christian…unlike the former UK.


    • StewGreen says:

      #3 Does the @bbcRadio4 data include people who enter by any means
      eg illegal entry & overstaying tourist
      AND didn’t bother to officially register

      Or does it include only include those who officially registered ?
      Which is lower in the UK cos we don’t have ID cards
      and do have a big #blackEconomy


    • StewGreen says:

      #4 There is another trick
      That graph label “first time asylum seekers”
      So if the UK takes in people who have already got asylum in Greece or Syria etc.

      They are *not counted* in the UK’s tally.


      • StewGreen says:

        Their Oxford speaker was Dr Peter William Walsh @MigObs .

        “The Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford provides independent, authoritative, evidence-based analysis on migration in the UK”

        Independent, really ?
        This is their tweet
        “Orphan escapes under lorry from camp ‘worse than death’ to be horse racing star. link to Daily Mirror”


        On the idea that Covid counts are higher in poverty areas
        a voice did point out that those are urban areas and get overcounted cos test centers are nearby.

        Whereas affluent areas are often rural and further from test centres so get undercounted.

        The elephant in the room, immigrants was not mentioned.


  29. Sam S says:

    The BBC really is incorrigible.

    For the first time in months I listened to the end of Today and had the misfortune to catch the end of a discussion about the 400th anniversary of the arrival of the Mayflower in America. One guest was an aggrieved member of the local tribe near the first settlement.

    She was fed the question “do you regret the arrival of the English settlers?”


    It’s a fair point for discussion. It’s just that everything the BBC does is like this.

    Did the BBC then ask the guest whether she’d prefer to be living as the current tribal communities in Central and South America do today? I’m sure you can guess the answer to that one.


    • StewGreen says:

      In Bangladesh & Myanmar the BBC always begin with
      “do you regret the arrival of the Rohingyas settlers?”

      Someone tweeted
      “The BBC literally just described the Rohingyas in Burma … whom the BBC absolutely LOVE.”


  30. theisland says:

    Rayner will be standing in for Starmer at PMQ.
    Not kneeling then.


  31. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Question: how do I add a link to the comments? I tried the following but it doesn’t work

    [url=https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2020/09/13/start-the-week-thread-14-september-2020/comment-page-4/]page 4[/url]

    And when I add a straight biasedbbc.org url address it produces a strange box with a whole load of text inside.


    • JimS says:


      <a href=”https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2020/09/13/start-the-week-thread-14-september-2020/comment-page-4/#comments”>This?</a>


      • StewGreen says:

        Note to Cali on his deleted comment

        @Cali That link works, in that it takes me to the top of page4
        your address link is
        (that last bit is probably a space autocoded as a character code)

        Whereas if it was to a specific comment it would go to an address like

        (links don’t work if the html is written in capitals or if a quotation mark is missed )

        Why does just putting a raw link to this site go funny ?
        Cos the software detects it as WordPress and tries to auto-embed the page


        • JimS says:

          Fake facts:”(links don’t work if the html is written in capitals or if a quotation mark is missed )”

          HTML is case-insensitive, Unix/Linux file systems aren’t.

          If a URL has a capital letter in it then it must be included if the file is located on a Unix/Linux server. Quotation marks and brackets of all shapes are used to de-limit ‘code’ elements and as such are always paired.

          The BBC licence fee is optional; the syntax isn’t.


          • StewGreen says:

            @JimS Actual fact , I said for posts here
            “if the html is written in capitals”
            in these comments html in capitals don’t work

            See this doesn’t work
            (A HREF=”https://google.com”> example(/A>

            Whereas it would work in normal webpages
            (where both html and URLs are case insensitive ..and I never said they weren’t
            and BTW such links there will work without quotation and here if you forget both the system puts them in.


  32. Cagna Guardia says:

    Just caught up with Mayflower Stories 1. Maybe even more sneery than Tuesday’s episode, but then it is by Brit Beeboid Nick Bryant. “White Comfort” is a phrase that I’ll treasure and use when appropriate.
    This series is worth following to realise why this propaganda organ must be destroyed.


  33. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    With regard the migrant situation – I read an article from a woke white academic a few years ago making a name for himself in the social justice academic field.

    He complained that when he went to Africa to search for migrants to interview he kept on stumbling across a whole army of academics from other universities as well as journalists all looking for migrants to interview to produce social justice dissertations, social justice research papers, for preparing research grants, for writing popular articles. He came across one small group of migrants crossing Africa who told him to stop bothering them because they had been hassled by other white academics and white journalists for interviews earlier.


  34. digg says:

    You can see how the BBC mindset works with the totally bizarre and obscene musical chairs regarding Lineker’s and Zoe Ball’s salaries.

    Knowing that the Lineker furore won’t go away as long as he is top of the heap financially they have decided to try to silence the protest by elevating Ball’s salary by a ridiculous amount so that she just tops Linker, hopefully taking the heat off him.

    They obviously hope this will stifle protest because she is a Woman and therefore one of the “untouchables” and thus beyond critiscm.

    The only odd thing is why they didn’t go the whole hog and choose a black women to complete the circle. Naga etc. could have done for this.


    • tarien says:

      Simple question maybe BUT why are these two individuals paid such thoroughly undeserved amounts of money? How are such amounts justified and by what criterion? Surely there must be a body within the BBC that appropriates such decisions on levels of pay? Such vast sums paid out will only increase the publics view that the BBC are out of touch, and well on their way down a suicide route. How soon I hear you ask!


    • BRISSLES says:

      In essence he hasn’t really had a salary reduction, as he has been given a 5 year contract (dear God) as a sweetener, so in the coming years he may well get bonuses to make up for this year’s public hair shirting.


  35. StewGreen says:

    I spot BBC Radio4 planning to do a homage to Kamala

    @bencrighton tweeted @AceDblDwn
    hi Ace. We’re profiling Senator Harris for @BBCRadio4
    Very keen to speak to you.

    Who’s he ?
    Congratulations to @AceDblD for a successful launch of the @KamalaHarris for president campaign!
    Ace is a brilliant democratic strategist for some of the biggest players in American politics and will now help guide her
    #Kamala2020 #ForThePeople campaign.


  36. theisland says:

    ” She claimed fishermen don’t have a voice and that MPs need to speak for them. It comes as Britain offered tentative concessions on fisheries in trade talks with the European Union last week according to *two diplomatic sources.”

    “There are 186 coastal MPs. These MPs should be fighting tooth and nail for their constituencies and constituents. Simple as that. That’s their job. They are elected into that position to ensure that we take full control of our waters and the resource.”

    The majority of Government goes to the big boys but these people represent foreign interests too.

    * “One of the sources: “The UK definitely seems to be coming around on this, they seem to be moving cautiously towards some opening on fisheries in the technical talks.”
    The second source reported a “tentative, modest” move on fisheries after Britain this summer pushed a more rigid line, which the EU has rejected.”


  37. digg says:

    I believe the EU push to get as many illegal immigrants into the UK as possible is a calculated tactic led primary by Germany and spearheaded by Merkel.

    Knowing they were vilified for their own treatment of immigrants in the 1930’s and into the Second Word War I believe they are now trying hard to put the UK into the same position that they were in at that time to teach us all a lesson.

    They are thus able to point the finger at the flack coming from the indigenous UK population as they see their Country being flooded with foreigners in some sort of vitriolic retaliation for the humiliation they received after the War.

    They are also clever enough to know that this plan would be fully and blindly supported by the wokists in the UK.


  38. Darcy3 says:

    I understand the bbbc claim they cannot find “right wing” comedians, (Hmmmm ….. really ?…..)

    May I suggest the following ?

    He seems to represent the views of many millions more license payers than the current shower of [email protected] employed by the bbbc as any look at recent general and presidential elections clearly indicate:

    “Jim Davidson sparks Twitter fury with racist YouTube rant suggesting Diversity should do a routine on black men MUGGING people and criticising Asian families ‘with 300 in a bubble'”


    I am sure people on this site can help the bbbc in their search with potential candidates, such a pity that 100 K plus salaries can still not ensure that bbc staff have the ability to locate comedians and pundits that represent both sides of the political spectrum, I wonder what their so called talents really are to earn so much more than the rest of the workforce ?

    Shutting down freedom of speech seems to be their main occupation when said words do not agree with their own Blairite sexist racist “education”.


  39. vlad says:

    People are waking up to the beeb, like this brave student speaking out.
    (Her examiners were no doubt marking her down as she spoke.)


    • Guest Who says:

      Oo-er… BBC going to deploy Champion in counter?


      Not sure about the ‘need’ for the current Conservative shambles.

      Something else in counter, yes.


    • Doublethinker says:



    • Nibor says:

      Brave girl
      But why should I say brave ?

      She stated an opinion , if someone disagrees they can try to persuade her otherwise . The BBC could interview her and put a counter head to her .

      But we know she`s put her head above the parapet . She`s not invulnerable from the Guardians Of Thought who infest our universities .

      She will be pilloried by the adherents to the Saul Alinsky school of political thought ie ; dont debate , bully against .


  40. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    “Misinformation shared on social media has a serious impact on our elections and undermines our democracy.”
    Kim Kardashian West joins social media boycott
    Kim Kardashian West joins social media boycott

    If American Booty and squad joined this ‘boycott’, their output would cease. Well, bar stuff like this.


  41. StewGreen says:

    Jailed MP perv Michael Elphicke
    a Tory, but we know there’s Labour, Libs, SNP and plenty of NGO pervs

    Interesting that he’d got away with groping both times but 11 months later the police persuaded complainant B to change her mind and then the nanny came forward with a 10 year old complaint.
    He didn’t do rape or serious sexual assault, cos both women resisted.
    Misconstruing signals iand infatuation s not an excuse, cos it’s immoral to come on to younger women you have power over, even if that was common in bosses 50 years ago.

    #1 \\ When she tried to flee, Elphicke chased her round the kitchen trying to slap her bottom “like a sketch from a Benny Hill”
    and chanted “I’m a naughty Tory” in the 2007 incident, Southwark crown court heard. //
    ..he paid her off with £3,000 in June 2007
    For 10 years he thought he’d got away with it.
    but she went to police after the other women complained.

    #2 In 2016 He lunged at a 23 yo parliamentary assistant
    and two other times tried to grope her
    But worse was he then harassed & bullied her so she left her job.
    In Jan 2017 she dropped her complaint, but in November 2017 police persuaded her to change her mind.


    • StewGreen says:

      Where the heck was Tory HQ in all of this ?
      He’s not the Yorkshire Ripper so police and jailing should not have been involved.
      They should have prevented it in the first place, by having firm policies, like reading them the riot act BEFORE anything happens.
      Then for victims you need an open door complaint policy, without threat of automatic punishment for the offender, cos that actually deters complaints.
      Before they start their job they need to know that they can safely report things to HR and be moved straight away, with HR acting as a father to the offender not an equal.

      The offender needs to know he cr/she crossed the line and shouldn’t do it again ..if you had automatic major punishments for groping then you are forcing them into the corruption route to get their victim to give up.

      The lunge complaint would have been nipped in the bud, if she’d complained to HR, they moved her the next day and brought him in for a talking to.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Alan b’stard lives! Never a shortage of politicians . Bet mr salmon is still relieved …


  42. theisland says:

    “On Tuesday, four senior congressmen also issued a similar warning [as Pelosi], saying a UK-US trade deal would be blocked if the UK failed to preserve the gains of the Good Friday Agreement.”

    bBC forgot to mention


  43. vlad says:

    The state of BBC ‘comedy’.


  44. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Something our old friend ‘support our lefty’ posted on parler today.



  45. StewGreen says:

    2:15pm R4 drama
    about 19 year old Tories gay kissing at a party conference

    Author Tim Dawson is a television writer, journalist and an unsuccessful Conservative council candidate in Manchester – as well as a party conference attendee.
    He’s written in many BBC comedies

    Outside th crowd are shouting “Never kiss a Tory”
    The first guy he meets inside is from BBR Bring Back The Rope.
    All the crowd are posh public schoolboys, getting drunk on free prosecco
    14:32pm a gay posh boy has kissed him
    … on the Daily Mirror have taken a photo and put in on the front page.


  46. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Scientific American one of the most popular Science magazines in the US and elsewhere has told everyone to vote for Joe Biden and not Donald Trump because they claim Donald Trump will destroy the planet.

    May I remind Scientific American that Donald Trump has only been in political power for less than four years whereas Joe Biden has been in political power since 1973.


    The BBC has reported on it and provided the above link to it but they haven’t yet headlined it.

    As their website currently has a flood of anti-Trump articles headlined across it – I expect they will use this story more prominently later.

    Meanwhile the BBC have already buried the report of the historic middle east peace deal brokered by Donald Trump (that was only signed yesterday evening British time). They also condemned it for good measure. We know how the BBC would have reported it if it was Barrack Obama brokering the deal.


    • StewGreen says:

      “Scientific American” claims authority
      but like New Scientist it is merely a vehcle for selling advertising to the gullible.

      About 8 years ago it starting routinely censoring reader comments . Then Sept 2013 it closed reader comments completely.

      It was been discussed on Sceptic blogs like WUWT, CliScep etc.

      \\ Science, Nature, and Scientific American have advanced ultra-liberal policies for a very long time.
      I quitmy SA subscription in the 80’s after hearing too much about the dangers of nuclear energy and environmental catastrophes. //

      WUWT article begins
      \\ I never in my life thought I’d see this article, never.
      I witnessed the corruption of National Geographic and Scientific American into political cesspools, but I never thought this would happen. // now Nature


      • StewGreen says:

        News comment from Tony Heller

        another typical of the 15,000 replies in that thread

        However the Sciam tweet has incredible support
        a level that big timers like Trump himself gets

        However considering Sciam have 4million followers it’s only 5% that liked their tweet


      • Guest Who says:

        They are both now utterly lacking in credibility.

        A few years ago I started teasing NS on social media whenever they tried to flog ‘expeditions’ to old biddies to float around in diesel gin palaces, that required rather long haul flights.

        Especially when pushing ‘Climate’ editions.


  47. JimS says:

    Barbados ‘wants to remove the Queen as head of state’ , (wouldn’t that be illegal, it would be for the Queen to set them free?).

    The BBC says:

    In the context of the Black Lives Matter movement, it will be interesting to see if this sparks wider political pressure on other Caribbean governments to go the same way.
    And if this happens, and the removal of the Queen as head of state is placed on a par with, say, the removal of a statue of a slave trader, then that could pose difficult questions for both the British royal family and the Commonwealth.

    I don’t believe the Queen has ever been a slave owner. Only in the world of the BBC could this ‘pose difficult questions’, (they are the ones asking after all). Most of us don’t care anyway, it will cut the Royal tours budget.

    If Barbados really wanted to make BLM mischief they could appoint Princess Meerkat and her consort as HoS.


  48. andyjsnape says:

    Disaster for BBC as 237,000 families stop paying licence fee costing £40million


    In a statement the BBC said: “Some measures are not going in the right direction.

    “Headcount has increased from 19,231 to 19,572 and senior leader numbers have gone up from 250 to 253.

    An increase, and they dont have the funds??

    Why so many people, why so many channels I ask


  49. s.trubble says:

    So we are led to believe that no meaningful discourse was said to have taken place between Wee Krankie and Mr Krankie concerning 2 home visits and meetings with Alex Salmond leading up to disclosure of the charge sheet.

    Who do you think you are kidding comes to mind…

    Put that into the context of it being a former Conservative P.M.

    The bBC would have had a helicopter full of its “investigators”
    flying over the household ….and the lead Jockey turning to the cameras and asking…you mean we are to believe that Husband and Wife did’nt speak in micro detail about this?


    ps Mr Krankie just happens to be Chief Executive of the SNP

    Dont just Defund it …CLOSE it DOWN> and that applies equally to the SNP………a horrendous cult with England hatred at its core.


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