Start the Week Thread 14 September 2020

More National Anniversaries – Tuesday marks the 80th Anniversary of The Battle of Britain Day. The Far Left Biased BBC is likely to let this pass with a few ‘celebrity entertainment shows whilst decent people will remember those very “few” who did and gave so much to prevent German becoming the leading language and undesirables being extinguished. Lest We Forget- together with the thousands of civilian British murdered by Germans ..Over to you

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381 Responses to Start the Week Thread 14 September 2020

  1. Deborah says:

    Is there something in the water? A half Italian cousin emailed me from Greece. Whilst wishing me greetings, apropos of nothing she followed her postcard message by adding that she hoped Boris would be ousted quickly.

    Then friends today, when we met in their garden, suddenly mentioned that they couldn’t understand when someone with such dreadful views could be appointed by the Tories as a trade negotiator. We didn’t know how to respond, especially as we had just enjoyed their delicious lunch. Mr D did a sterling job by just saying he didn’t understand why someone’s views on marriage should affect their ability to make successful trade negotiations. I added that he had apparently done well whilst PM of Australia and we rapidly changed the subject.
    I am sure neither would ever read this website. But why do people on the Left always think it is ok to sneer. Are they taught the technique on left leaning websites, receive emails from Labour on the way to attack? My usual response is to say thank goodness Corbyn wasn’t in charge. But it seems common to middle class Left who were desperate for Remain and still hope for their miracle.


    • StewGreen says:

      Misrepresent/Smear-label/Sneer/Runaway is the common libmob MO
      .. To me it looks like school bully behaviour

      Back on the previous thread at 10am page 3
      (which began first thing Sunday morning and continued until 6pm when the discussion overflowed onto page 4 )
      I posted the Rod Liddle video where he points out the lefty trick of moving the Overton Window so that your opponents views appear beyond the pale.
      Tony Abbott is no extremist he led the No Vote to Gay Marriage and came close to winning with 40% of the vote

      Lefties created wrongspeak that means ALL conservatives like Tony Abbott, Toby Young and Roger Scruton are banned from committees even though their opinions are in line with most or much of the public ..


    • Roland Deschain says:

      I have two uncles, one in Canada and one in Australia. Both will sound off about Trump, in the certain (to them) knowledge that everyone agrees with them. I tend only to meet them at family gatherings, where I want to avoid creating an atmosphere at someone else’s celebration, so keep quiet. Plus, I never feel confident I have the facts at my fingertips to counter with.

      How do others deal with this sort of situation which I’m sure I’m not alone in experiencing?


      • JamesArthur says:

        I normally keep some facts based on outcomes that compare. E.g EU and Brexit

        I have learned that most people just quote the latest newspaper article so I go to official docs or just have another published view

        Usually they shut up….or call me something in which case I laugh and say each to their own….


      • Up2snuff says:

        Roland, you could say something like …

        ” Do you remember how everyone was so worried when ‘Trump’* won, that the world was facing imminent war, and the Left and Socialists immediately did their best to unseat ‘Trump’? What has really happened in the four years since then? Russia poisons people. A Liberal Party in the UK deliberately threaten our democracy. China spreads a deadly disease worldwide? Were we missing the real threat, the threat from Communism, from the Liberals and the Left? ”

        [ * maybe deliberately miss out the correct title 😉 ]


      • Guest Who says:

        There is a presumption, and reliance amongst many in the bubble who hold such views and, rightly, feel free articulate them, that these are shared by all.

        Which is why they appear utterly flummoxed when reality bites in elections via secret ballot.

        What is less pleasant is how they react when confronted by such reality.

        To election results it seems years of lobbing spanners in the works, sulking and outright aggression is seen as acceptable. It isn’t.

        I have taken to to light humour backed by fact in face of social media waves of bile, and the reactions range from stunned wagon circling to being ostracised.

        No loss.

        However the mutterings about how election results not being accepted by some are a worry.


      • Old Goat says:

        Ooh, right up my street. My wife is a liberal, handwringing leftie snowflake, and Trump hater. She can’t justify any of her views, or give reasons, or offer any semblance of evidence for her animosity. Nor will she debate, which is very frustrating, so I just have to keep quiet.

        We are in an isolated part of France (yay!!), but the closest English speaking neighbours are an American from North Carolina, and his Dutch wife. Both are getting on (like me) in years, dyed-in the wool lefties, climate change ‘believers” and paranoid to the “N’th” degree about COVID (here, where there’s no sign of it…), and vociferous Trump haters. Unlike me.

        They came for aperos on Saturday evening, and despite promising himself not to start a discussion, he did just that and got very heated about the subjects I’ve just mentioned. In the end, he went and sat in his car in a huff, and they left. His wife said to me, on parting “You always think you are right!” She has a point, but I usually am. Needless to say Mme Goat and I have not spoken since. Which rather pleases me.

        Anyway, that same evening, a sheepish American sent me an apology by E mail…


      • Happyuk says:

        No you’re not alone. For some time my own family were incredulous about my support for Trump, and for some time I was somewhat hurt about my reception. Fast forward to today and I am perfectly comfortable with my position. So what if it gets up a few noses, I don’t want to lie and why should I? If they don’t like it to hell with them!

        I see the task of Donald J. Trump as being that of a very imperfect man trying to lead the United States away from the influence of a bunch of unethical communist thugs and back to the Constitution.


    • BRISSLES says:

      This sneery attitude by left wingers is something thats taken hold only in the last few years. Prior to about 15 years ago, left , right and middle just rubbed along without malice, and plonked our cross at election time in the hope that our team would win. If we won, then great, but if we lost, then it was ‘oh well, there’s always next time, but we’ve got to suffer this lot until then.’

      Brexit became the catalyst, along with Corbyn becoming leader, and its all been down hill since. Then the Uni idiots started ranting about cultural appropriation, cancelling debating speakers and suddenly it all started turning nasty. Friends and colleagues who once never bothered talking about politics began to be very vocal and opinionated, to the point of being bloody rude, and now we cant put the genie back in the bottle.

      Its true, about keeping quiet once the ranting starts, as what is the point of losing friends, in a heated argument about whether Trump is a dickhead or not, or how Boris has been utterly shambolic. Sadly I’d rather they too kept quiet, as like wages, knowing the colour of their politics is something that should remain private.


    • Seppers says:

      I identified as broadly left wing and liberal in outlook for many years.
      Several things changed that, one being the sneering attitude of many on the left. There is no excuse for it.
      I noticed during the Brexit ref campaigns this characteristic becoming more apparent, on the internet but also the bbc.
      I noticed them using words like ‘nonsense’ and ‘silly’ to discredit opinions other than their own.
      (Btw, I now don’t affiliate to any defined political grouping and just judge issues and policies on their merits.)


      • Fedup2 says:

        But seppers – what principles do you apply ?
        For instance I’m against the tide by wanting a smaller state – for instance –

        the sheer size of the NHS –

        or the contrast drone of people wanting something controlled or banned – without thought to long term threats to residual freedoms .

        Or the spending – waste of other people’s money ( by the government ) which feels entitled to do so without challenge

        Such things are general but look at the complete failure to either prepare or deal with Covid and you realise the great institutions of the UK really are not up to much these days – although they are very good at rewarding themselves ..


        • Seppers says:

          I’m probably akin to Frank Feild, or maybe Kate Hoey, though I wouldn’t vote Labour now.
          I definately think the Left has changed in recent years, and some of the closing down of debate or different opinion puts me right off.
          Hence why I’m on this site. I’ve been following for a few years and whilst my politics are probably a bit different to most, I totally agree about the bias and propaganda of the bbc. I think it’s wrong, even having been a bit leftie.


    • Nibor says:

      You could say ” oh you must be listening to the biased BBC ” . It’s no wonder you think like that .


    • digg says:

      I have a Brother-in law who lives in the USA and is a fairly high up environmental scientist with a Global Organisation. He is of course left-wing and bitterly opposed to Trump and Boris and until recently never missed an opportunity to say so loudly.

      At the start of the “protesting” in the USA his attitude was that it was great that this might lead to the demise of the Republicans and especially Trump.

      However, as things progressed and the violence and destruction took hold and became more sinister he has became increasingly quiet on the subject.

      I now suspect that he is becoming ever more frightened of the outcome of mob rule and the threat to his, up to now, very comfortable jet-setting lifestyle, always at global conferences all over the World, with it’s 1st class airline seats, 5 star hotels etc.

      It would seem that hard left-wing attitudes amongst the wealthy start to crumble when it begins to impact on their standard of living, safe environment and freedom. All of which have been enhanced by Trump!


      • Fedup2 says:

        Digg – i think that accords with the ‘privacy of the ballot box’ theory where died in the wool democrats vote Trump and then tell everyone else – inc posters – how great the Biden is ….

        On Mr Trump – someone here reminded us how Mr Trump was going to start a world war – instead American and British boys are not coming home in boxes .


      • Seppers says:

        Champagne socialists.
        Why is an environmental scientist jet- setting all over?


    • Happyuk says:

      Screw them. One common trait of leftists is that they never left school. Schoolboy catcalls and sneering is easier than really knowing your shit and knowing how to debate.


  2. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    The BBC bang on and on about the importance of “change” and they actively push for “change”.

    I think we should all embrace this challenge for change.

    We can start by abolishing the BBC and changing it for something that is fit for purpose.


  3. Deborah says:

    Running out of time on a 15 minute edit so my follow up my previous post, to look out for the hints in the Remain leaning press and comments on various sites that Boris is ill and should stand down. He may not yet have returned to full health and vim, but I assume this is the last throw of the dice for Brexit to be delayed.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Deborah – yes it’s their last throw .silence would be the ideal but the debate on the bill is on Monday so it remains to be seen the level of ‘dissent ‘ on the red Tory side . There’ll be a parade of gobshites talking about ‘conscience’ as though any politician who schemes for a living ever had one .

      I’ll repeat that the new Tory majority needs to remember who voted them in and why – to get us out finally under any circumstances .


      • Doublethinker says:

        One big factor in the government’s favour in this rerun of last years Remainer obstruction in Parliament is the fact that there is now a Speaker who takes impartiality seriously. Of course there will be great heat , noise , posturing by Remainers in both houses but I think it certain that the bill will eventually pass. I suspect that the EU knows this will be the case and will probably start to negotiate properly from now on.
        The punishment of those Tory MPs who vote against the government needs to be harsh, withdraw the whip , urge local Tory associations to withdraw support and attempt to force by elections. Make them Soubry like outcasts and get rid of them at the first opportunity.


  4. vlad says:

    The BBC report on the latest shooting of 2 police officers in LA by what looks like a black child (though admittedly the video footage is grainy) contains the following: ‘Protesters shouted anti-police slogans and blocked the entrance to the emergency room where the two officers are being treated’.


    And what were those ‘slogans’ as the beeb delicately puts it?

    One savage yelled: “I want to deliver a message to the family of the pigs: I hope they f’ing die!”


  5. Doobster78 says:

    I really hope , that whenever these BLM activists like Hamilton and Lineker ever need the Police in a emergency, that the Police tell them in no uncertain terms to Foxtrot Oscar !!!!!

    Support BLM , you have absolutely NO right at all to ask for help from the Police !!!!!

    No right at all !!!!!!


  6. StewGreen says:

    Cuties : Lawyer Viva Frei’s take
    After Ted Cruz said “It’s CP Child Porn so Netflix have broken US law”

    He’ll have more on Monday, in his live discussion show with Robert Barnes.

    Tonight’s Sargon also does the topic again
    “Why are the SJW’s like Stu chberry, decided that defending child porn is the hill they are going to die on ?”


    • vlad says:

      How ironic that the Duke and Duchess of Woke and Feminism sign a mega-deal with purveyors of paedo-porn, and how satisfying that the company nosedives days later.

      May they all go broke together, hopefully before they have time to inflict their garbage lefty propaganda on the world.


  7. StewGreen says:

    Lockdown skeptics : 30 min video from Anna Brees with Professor Richard Ennos

    He started with secret “A BBC employee told me, I’ve been sent along to smear you, they instructed me to get a photo of you not socially distancing”
    .. Then he goes into how Positive Test tallies are wrongly being equated with INFECTIOUS patients tally ..they are not the same thing, cos the tests are super sensitive.


  8. StewGreen says:

    Radio 4 let on a person that challenged the idea
    that metropolitan liberal worldview is is holy dogma
    … She’s admits that she is a lefty but is upset about how intolerant and hatey fellow lefties have become.
    Her Twitter friends are not so happy.


  9. Fedup2 says:

    Twitter watch

    Although i have a twitter account i have never written on it . I get invites from what i presume are lady prostitutes to ‘ follow ‘ but choose not to .

    But i ask you this ? What is the purpose of twitter ? Every time i see what is being said i despair for those of a different calling and feel dirty after reading it .

    So should i just delete the app? Not bother looking at all ? Or do battle ?


    • StewGreen says:

      The search is chronological so it is great for new news.

      New users don’t understand the school bully trolls
      They are just chancers trying to intimidate you
      All you do is ignore them, cos you can’t reason with the unreasonable

      Content , if you follow good people , not only will you see non-toxic discussion
      but it gets around the BBC/MSM’s main trick of Bias by omission
      You get to see all the stuff they are avoiding talking about.
      Parler is good for this (but has a poor search function)

      Live commentary
      I always watch a prog or radio with an eye on the ongoing Twitter discussion
      cos other listeners often point out when they have made a mistake etc.


      • StewGreen says:

        example of content account


      • Roland Deschain says:

        Twitter works best when you follow some people of interest to you, especially where they are a source of what the media doesn’t want you to know. Such people now are, unfortunately, increasingly likely to be banned by Twitter for spurious reasons.

        You can block anyone who annoys you, though I prefer to mute. Muting means you don’t see what they’re saying, but they don’t know that so your failure to rise to their bait, or even acknowledge it can infuriate them.

        The downside is to see the truly worrying perspective of the world that so many people hold. It’s an unpleasant mirror into the human soul which in my view often shows the true evil of today’s ‘left’.


        • BRISSLES says:

          Twitter is just the tool for the tools in the media.


          • Scroblene says:

            As my mobile telephone is in the car for emergencies only, I’ll never engage with Twitter, just get up early, when the world’s your own, and enjoy the good news before most people awake…

            Smug old git, aren’t I!

            Senora O’Blene’s mobile telephone is somewhere in a drawer near the pantry, but that also used to be in her car before we sold it seven years ago. She still has over £9.00 credit from the original £10.00 she organised in 2004, and that money was used to get the RAC to help her when her Fiat broke down near Rye.

            As for Facebook, it’s rather like Linked-in, but much more irritating…

            I’ve only been blogging since I was trying to find out about a story concerning a member of the Royal Family around 2003/4. I found a site called ‘Throne-Out’, which was hilarious, and I certainly am no republican (the UK version), but the characters and some of the posters there are still around – one is even on here occasionally – or is it Guido…

            Can anyone tell me; does the BBC influence Twitter, or is it the other way round?


          • Fedup2 says:

            Yes i think i agree – would i miss it if it disappeared tomorrow ? No not much . Sometimes there is funny stuff but that just entertainment one cannot find on the miserable BBC ….


          • Up2snuff says:

            Brissles, my dear old thing (well it is still the cricket season, despite the footie starting up) that is brilliant. Gave me a good guffaw and some cheer.


    • Old Goat says:

      Dump it. It is merely a vehicle for people to verbally assault each other. Nobody wins, and everyone loses, meanwhile Big Tech makes lots of money, and tries to influence elections, etc. Dangerous – leave it alone. And Facebook, too. Take care with Google and Youtube, as well – they’re ALL, without exception, up to no good.


      • Scroblene says:

        With you there Mr Goat!

        I get enough insults from morons who wear bling, look an idiot, say stupid things and wear T shirts with BLM rubbish scribbled all over them.

        Just like some bloke who tears round racetracks, wasting precious fuel, talking borrocks and encouraging mental lightweights to break speed limits, drive like maniacs and kill mums and pramfuls of kids.


  10. Fedup2 says:

    Whilst western states faff over false colour nonsense arab states are making nice with israel . Andrew Neill thinks it wont be long before saudi joins the pack . The prospect of a North African trading organisation would not be too far away .


    • tarien says:

      North African Trading Organisation, quite possible Fedup2 and if supported by the USA, as long as they have a strong input to the organisations operations, then yes very possible. But we must face this-many notable people in internatinal affairs have spoken about revealing the unspoken truth concerning the American empire, how it kills and destroys people’s lives, impoverishes entire populations viz Middle East.
      The Worldwide control of humanity’s economic, social and political activities is under the helm of US corporate and military power. Underlying this process are various schemes of direct and indirect military intervention. These US sponsored strategies ultimately consist in a process of global subordination. The US tends to view the Earth’s surface as a vast territory to conquer, occupy and exploit and the UK is right in its path-hence Lockdowns-all to get us used to government control. We are not the agressors as the BBC et al would like us all to believe.


  11. StewGreen says:

    FFS 9am R4 “Andrew Marr discusses … moderation with Owen Jones” !
    plugging his new book
    also Rachel Holmes (Suffrage biographer) and Danny Finkelstein (Tory)

    \\ Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour movement promised radical change but ended disastrously with the 2019 general election.
    Labour insider and activist Owen Jones looks back over the last decade and tells Andrew Marr why the election went so badly wrong.
    In his new book, This Land: The Story of a Movement, he also reflects on the future of the Left in an age of upheaval.//

    The pic is of Corbyn


  12. Halifax says:

    Ummmm something is happening on the BBC News site. 95% of reports feature women in the accompanying pictures and even when its a graphic its female. Perhaps the new DG has told them to back off over representing BNE males and this is the editors way of saying “Stuff You DG’……


  13. taffman says:

    How long is Boris going to take before he decriminalises non payment of the telly tax?


  14. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Back me over the bill, Johnson tells Tory MPs”
    Boris has enough MPs to get this through.


  15. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    The BBC Newsround team jet off to the other side of the world to Fiji because according to them that is the front line for Climate Change:


    This is just another example of the BBC hypocrisy. They go on a nice jolly at the taxpayers expense, burning huge amounts of fossil fuels to get there, and then claim it is to show British kids how bad things are with regard to Climate Change and what is being done to combat it which requires them to go scuba diving among other things.


    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      The following is a link to the homepage of the BBC’s news channel for children. The BBC will have to justify this all expenses jolly to Fiji paid for by the British taxpayer so expect to see a week long special on Climate Change. One thing they will not tell the British Kids is of their own massive carbon footprint:

      The BBC have opened up some articles for comments and kids are saying we have to act now and blaming Donald Trump – which is what the BBC have brainwashed them into believing.

      However to the more experienced and less gullible mind one can see straight through the BBC’s hypocrisy as their own massive carbon footprint dwarfs that of the average joe public.

      But the BBC places themselves at the vanguard of the sneery liberal privileged elite who point fingers at others to make themselves feel important and to empower themselves while taking all the fruits of the Western Enlightenment culture they now claim to despise. They don’t do any real work they just produce fictions and narratives and film documentaries and emotional sound tracks. They are the freeloaders of society and they want to keep it that way.


    • Seppers says:

      Don’t do as I do…


  16. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Geoffrey Cox says PM ‘damaging’ UK’s reputation with bill“ So what?
    What’s China’s reputation like ? China has been trading with the rest of the world for years.


    • theisland says:

      Cox “We, the British government and Parliament, have given our word. Our honour, our credibility, our self-respect and our future influence in the world all rest upon us keeping that word.”

      Given that he was the mouthpiece used to claim that prosecuting TR on trumped-up charges was ‘in the public interest’, what on earth would Cox know about honour, credibility and self-respect?


  17. AsISeeIt says:

    Our press have fought shy of criticising lockdown. Tight state regulation of our lives tended to fit the modern journalistic outlook and those newspapers politically at odds with the Johnson administration (which, considering the Brexit issue, was just about all of them) confined themselves to complaints that lockdown policy was either too late, too lenient, broken by government insiders, or perhaps, if all else failed, too complicated.

    As we know from the Channel migrant issue, a huge stinky great elephant may inhabit the media lounge for an awful long stay without adverse press remark.

    Interestingly this morning the Mail fires a belated broadside: ‘Revealed: Lockdown blow to UK health. Hospital admissions for seven major non-Covid illnesses down by 173,000’ – one doubts lockdown has made us fitter.

    The Telegraph adds some flanking fire: ‘GPs warned they must see patients ‘face to face”

    The Guardian explains why the quacks have been so dilatory in dealing with our ills and gives skeptics the now familiar counter-battery retort: ‘Majority of doctors expect new Covid peak’

    The Express puts up a handy smoke screen under which perhaps there may at last be some breakthrough against this covid obsession: ‘Lives at risk in cancer research cash crisis’

    Even the freebie Metro takes to some long range sniping: ‘Student 19 clobbered for bash at home. Fined £10k as party breaks covid rules’

    Perhaps the worm will turn at last? Meanwhile it’s business as usual for the Remoaners: ‘Law chief leads Brexit rebellion’ says the Times, hopefully.

    The Times also wants to hold the line on Wuhan Flu: ‘Act fast or lose control within days, coronavirus expert warns No 10’

    The Mirror decrees: ‘Final virus warning, Fight to avoid second wave’

    The Guardian has some female (sort of) interest on the front page: ‘Nicola Adams on dancing with a woman and making TV history’

    The Telegraph notes: ‘BBC to axe meetings culture sent up by W1A’ – what, no more hugs in Frankie Howerd?

    In the same paper the corporate crony left are on electoral manoeuvres in the States: ‘Bloomberg pledges $100m to help Biden’ – no doubt the Wall Street candidate will be expected to keep open borders and cheap labour.

    One suspects tabloid editors read the broadsheets and crib certain stories. Yesterday’s old parrots report from the Times turns up in the Star giving that paper today one of the laziest two headlines for yonks: ‘Phew! It’s a scorcher 35c’ and ‘Sick as a parrot’ – come on the Star – you can do better…


  18. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Happy Birthday

    The Rule of Sick has been born in England. But … but …… splutter the BBC, the Rule of Sick is different among the Home Nations. How can this be?

    It’s Di Versity my old dears, don’tcha just love it! In the normal circumstances the BBC are big on diversity. Diversity here, diversity there, diversity under this stone, whereever you can find it for the BBC. Unless its pay for Wimmin.

    The BBC appear to dislike diversity in the UK Rule of Sick.

    Can we bring a Discrimination Case against the BBC?


  19. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning Emole heads to Nigeria, which seems unChristian in ways more than one.


    The descendants of slaves who can’t marry who they want

    In a tragedy reminiscent of Romeo and Juliet, a couple in Nigeria killed themselves earlier this month after their parents had forbidden them from marrying because one of them was a descendant of slaves. “They’re saying we can’t get married… all because of an ancient belief,” the note they left behind said. The lovers, who were in their early thirties, hailed from Okija in south-eastern Anambra state, where slavery was officially abolished in the early 1900s.

    Read full analysis >

    Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani

    Tragic. But Trish does get a byline and in the running for QoS.

    Lewis Hamilton is getting a t-shirt made. Apparently.


  20. JamesArthur says:

    This might be old news but as I avoid most BBC output….
    Question of sport.BBC get rid of existing team and Sue Barker…cos they want to appeal to younger viewers…yes the ones that don’t watch BBC
    And who have been linked to new roles…A woman of colour that used to play womens football and a footballer of colour…male
    I am guessing the final person will be gay or disabled..

    BBC is just a pile of crap…defund


    • Fedup2 says:

      James – doesnt david vine do ‘Question of Sport ‘ anymore ? Gave up long ago …..


      • harry142857 says:

        They buried him eleven years ago.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Harry – thank you – I was being a bit too dry again . I thought he was very good at his job – wouldn’t last 5 minutes in their BBC now ….

          And Harry – you and your magic number 😎


      • Foscari says:

        Fedup-I wrote about “Question of Sport” last week and maybe
        I was being a bit too facetious about the “revamp” of the show.
        I have watched the programme occasionally over the years
        and in away it has become like the Proms, a
        tradition.Yes I did laugh at Phil Tufnells antics and the really professional way that Sue Barker handled her boys.But I
        believed that this entertaining sports quiz could not go on
        with three whities at the helm.
        Yes maybe suggesting that the number one box ticking
        presenter Alex Scott was likely to get one of the top
        jobs on the programme was a bit near the mark.But if
        the newspapers are correct it looks, as if the two captains will be her and Jermaine Jenas another who ticks most of the boxes
        expect this football pundit has a habit of saying “yes , something’s happening , something’s happening. Not in
        the same funny way as Chris Kamara on Soccer Saturday on
        Sky with his “Geoff has somebody been sent off?” or “Geoff
        Spurs are fighting like beavers.” But Jenas is worth a six out of 10.
        So the question is who will take Sue Barkers role?
        I don’t think it will be a man,or an it ,unless he or it is ethnic. So that leaves
        somebody who menstruates or one of the other hundred different sexes. Clare Balding also ticks most of the boxes and as it
        happens is good at her job.I would prefer her to some women
        from the Irish Republic with a strong brogue.I think I would even
        prefer Jamie Carragher and I can hardly understand a word he says when he mumbles, which is most of the time.
        Gary Lineker must be next for the chopping block as the BBC
        morphs into becoming the most absurd diverse enterprise we
        are ever likely to see.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Fos- there are plenty of ex sky unemployed footy pundits about but the bbc likes to breed its’ own ‘talent ‘ so they’ll put a coffe coloured girl in the seat – it’s immaterial to me – being a no licence fee – not bbc consumer – but the pattern is set now ..

          Otherwise it’s someone called nish or that one who does the media show and everything else …. or naga – real name ——…


  21. Guest Who says:

    Contrast with current MSM coverage citing every rock crawler they can cram in a studio.


  22. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – BBC campaigns against diversity! Oh dears and old dears all round.

    Now, there’s a thing! In my sporadic R4 listening this morning, I caught the Prime Interview slot at 8.10 a.m. which surprisingly was not conducted by the ‘needles under the fingernails’ Mishal (although she was co-presenting TOADY today) but by JustRemainIn Webb. He started his campaign against Diversity in the Rule of Sick by interviewing frequent contributor, Martin Hewitt, Chair of the Police Chiefs Council or Federation.

    Mr Hewitt did not oblige JustRemainIn and did not say on air what JustRemainIn and the BBC wanted as an anti-Diversity and anti-Government sound-bite.

    Oh dear No.1.

    JustRemainIn moved on to interview Lord Sumption about the Rule of Sick and to campaign some more against diversity. But Lord Sumption (for a ‘seventy-something’) was in a boisterous mood and full of the joys of spring or Indian Summer. Are we allowed to call it that now? Probably not.

    Oh dear No.2.

    For an old dear with his faculties in full flow, Lord Sumption dismissed all the arguments put forward by a rather fascistic JustRemainIn with ease. No anti-Government soundbite to be obtained there, either.

    Oh dear No. 3.

    Perhaps Mishal, in her ‘Emma Peel’ Hellfire kit complete with whip and spikes, should have conducted the prime interviews on TOADY today?


  23. Sluff says:

    A propos of nothing and yet quite a lot…….

    Mrs S and I had a couple of nights in a hotel in a fine English small town centre.

    At breakfast we noted all the guests were white, retired, and could be presumed to be middle class (based on location). None were overweight. Despite their age (average 65+) all were sprightly, and dressed in shorts and trainers and such like, ready for a sightseeing day.

    So here we have middle class, white people, who look after themselves and are putting money into the economy..

    In other words, everything the BBC and Left!ob wokedom absolutely hate.

    Such people were mainstays of BBC support back in the day. The BBC now alienates them daily and is replacing them with a tiny ragbag of activists. Not exactly a brilliant business plan. In any other organisation, the investors would be taking their money out. Thus ‘defund the BBC’ apart from anything else is simply a sensible investment decision.


  24. Sluff says:

    All the usual suspects are in uproar over Boris’s internal market bill this week.

    But none of them appear to grasp that the EU are using the complexities of Brexit and the Good Friday agreement to drive a wedge between Northern Ireland and Great Britain and thus create a negotiating position to get a trade deal exclusively in their interest.

    The absence of discussion on this point at the BBC shows the Remoaners are still holding on by their fingernails.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Indeed, I need to do another TOADY post. It is interesting, however, that the BBC – with all their concern over UK Food Banks and nutrition and possible shortages of food after Brexit and the future of farming in the UK – are quite happy to see the people of Northern Ireland go short of food and the people of Britain be unable to support British farmers in Northern Ireland.

      Funny, that.


    • digg says:

      Yes I am surprised that even Cameron has now had the gall to add to the frenzy. This from a man who was so weak he jumped ship rather than deal with the issue.


  25. Fedup2 says:

    I used to stay in a similar establishment where the joke was that the kitchen counted the tinned mushrooms at the full English /welch /Irish breakfast … other breakfasts are available -even all day ones …..


  26. Loobyloo says:

    Still haven’t seen any media outlet state that this is exempt from the rule of six:
    ‘ protests and political activities organised in compliance with COVID-19 secure guidance and subject to strict risk assessments’
    Taken from

    Wonder why


  27. Old Goat says:

    A couple from Katie Hopkins:



  28. fakenewswatcher says:

    Hello? On ‘Start the Week’ A Marr has used the ‘C ‘word’ for Emilyn Pankhurst, Feminist and Communist. Pankhurst went to Moscow and was ‘far to the left of Lenin’. Wow.
    Owen Jones is also there.


  29. fakenewswatcher says:

    Hello? On beeb R4 ‘Start the Week’, A Marr has used the ‘C ‘word’ for Emilyn Pankhurst, Feminist and Communist. Pankhurst went to Moscow and was ‘far to the left of Lenin’. Wow. There’s also a lot about her ‘anti-racism’ and ‘anti-colonialism’. Kinda topical, then? But the mere use of the term ‘far-left’ is a surprise, as we only ever hear about the ‘Far right’. And Communism, well we kinda suspected they were both hiding and coming out of the woodwork in Britain over the last hundred years. So ‘Cultural Marxism – very much to be expected!
    Owen Jones is also there. He tells us how Pankhurst was an integrator of wimmins rights and socialism. (Silvia Pankhurst). None of the Pankhurst woman was interested in ‘parliamentary democracy’, says another voice, which doesn’t sound like Owen.
    All this started with Marr being worried about the current (especially BLM) revolutionary tactics might not backfire.
    You betcha. Trump 2020.
    And Owen Jones has written a book. Wow! About Corbynism it seems.


  30. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY WATCH #3 – the power, the power – has it gone to my head?

    In their anti-Brexit toadying today the BBC dug up Ed Miliband MP (Lab). I didn’t know he was still an MP. I thought he had lost his seat and gone off to earn millions from writing his memoirs and various directorships like previous losers leaders of the Labour Party.

    With Ed Miliband in full waffle mode about the Internal Markets Bill and before he could reach his peak of indignation, I exercised my right forefinger and pressed the off-switch. The power could go to my head instead of the wireless. 🙂


  31. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY WATCH #4 – have my suspicions just been confirmed?

    Before Ed Miliband hit my ear drums, JustRemainIn did mention on air that the PM had been advised that the Withdrawal Agreement contained a trap and that he signed it nevertheless.

    I can imagine the Prime Minister in full boisterous ‘get it done’ mode, and with his new big majority caught in his trouser zip and his mind on other things, thinking and saying to officials and advisors “Oh, that’s just a minor detail. Don’t worry about that. We can tidy that up later. Let’s get this thing done. I don’t want any more delay. We must press on.”


  32. fakenewswatcher says:

    Continuation of the Marr ‘Start the Week’ discussion. ‘Radical far-leftism’ is now discussed as leading to totalitarianism, on the Marr show. Who would have thunk? Marr asks whether we should not be moving to ‘tolerance and moderation’.
    Owen chips in to attack Trump and call him vulgar, leading to a full-scale attack on the President. He goes away from the Pankhurst days by bringing in LGBTQ etc etc rights.
    Marr still asking whether the revolution won’t get a backlash.


  33. Fedup2 says:

    Hat off for listening. – Marr should look in the mirror a bit more if he wants to see radical far leftism …….is there anyone on to argue for the ‘right’ or is it normal BBC comfortable nodding dogs ?


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Fed – largely the latter. But I listen anyway, for clues as to how and where and when the next attack on civilised values is shaping up.
      Thus I could spot a year or two ago could that ‘decolonisation’ would become a big weapon in the armoury of the Left.
      What do do about it? Another story.


  34. fakenewswatcher says:

    R4 advertising ‘Bloodlands’ at 1.45 on R4 all week.
    The attacks on South African farmers. At last.
    I do wonder -it being beeb- who will be the goodies and who the baddies by the end of the week?
    My money is on the white farmers ending up as the baddies!
    At ‘South Africa Today’ News you can see that there were 52 farm attacks and 9 deaths in August. Slightly down on July’s 55 attacks and 9 deaths.


    • Up2snuff says:

      fnw, your good guess was right on the money! Didn’t take a week to get there. The baddies were hinted at right at the end of the first episode and we were left in no doubt that it wasn’t the criminals who had given Ludie a beating.


      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Snuff – Stands to reason. The bbc have a narrative to promote, and -although I’ve only listened to the first episode- it would be surprising if the whites turned out to be the good guys, and the blacks the baddies!
        We will find out why Andrew Harding picked this specific incident from among the many hundreds in which white farmers have been brutally murdered and tortured, soon enough.
        He’s already squeezed in a lot of other messages, if you listen carefully to episode 1, which would be in line with bbc portrayal of how it sees things in SA.
        His selective overall reporting from SA for many years (always disguised by an overlay of “I’m only giving you the facts!”) gives us a pretty good idea of what we can expect.


  35. StewGreen says:

    American news .. always worth checking Raheem’s Twitter

    …. He is promising something big o do with Obama rigging stuff.


    • Guest Who says:

      I see his stuff more on FB.

      Unashamedly partisan but definitely more committed to facts than anything in the US, especially Ameican BS.

      I often find out stuff they have been propagandising is a crock via his feed.

      I have learned that FB TDS ‘friends’ are less keen on factual shares of his.

      What intrigues is the number of Asian expats still out there, almost all British, Oz or Canadian, are obsessed by a bloke in America and its politics to the exclusion of sanity. I wish they would stick to their family, exotic beaches and dogs.

      Interestingly, I can think of few chums from those days who are American, repatriated or otherwise, who do ‘go there’. Or South Africans.


  36. StewGreen says:

    I’d missed this
    EastEnders commissioned street artist Dreph to paint this mural
    ☑ box ticked
    They then have the character Ian Beale saying how great he thinks it is
    whilst if he was staying close to his original character he’ be saying
    “bleeding hell what you doing painting a black bird on the side of my bleedin ‘ouse, that is bang out of order, that is !!”

    EastEnders never mentioned the 7/7/ bombings or lee Rigby



    • StewGreen says:

      The TV guy called it a desperate box tick measure from the BBC
      and said they’d been lax about having proper black charaters in the soap
      .. is that at the expense of more Muslim characters etc.


      • BRISSLES says:

        Well, I remember in the first few episodes there were several black characters, as well as a Moroccan (?) who ran the Caff, and I know I haven’t watched for around 12 years but there there was always a diverse cast list, including disabled, but I suppose it has become more pc since its beginnings.


      • Guest Who says:

        Maybe they can arrange Banksy to do one of Greta in hijab opposite, smiling back?


  37. Fedup2 says:

    Not sure about the nose …..


  38. StewGreen says:

    Policing minister Kit Malthouse admits he would “dob in” his neighbours


    • The WestWyvern says:

      I bet he would.

      Then again, I’ll guess he’s comfortable in a ‘hideously white’ neighborhood where the joys and benefits of a richly UN-diverse population are not felt.

      When compared say, to areas of Bradford or Leicester for example.


  39. StewGreen says:

    Lord Sumption: “The gov has tried to justify “draconian invasions of fundamental rights” by frightening people into compliance.
    It’s now trapped in a position where it has to exaggerate the problem in order to justify its past (disastrous) actions.”

    screenshot of article


  40. StewGreen says:

    45,000 people liked Keir Starmer’s tweet
    even though it was clearly wrong
    Sadiq was not Europe’s first Muslim city mayor


    • Guest Who says:

      So that is roughly 69,950,000 folk either not on twitter, bothered or thinking he is a virtue signalling twat and would take a knee to saddo if instructed.

      That 45k effectively runs the show, comprising all BBc staff, most MSM editors and gobs, leaders of unions, charities and NGOs, a large chunk of both houses, and Champion Ash.

      Plus a an ‘enegineer’ in Bradford still buying fertiliser each week so as not to arouse suspicion.


  41. StewGreen says:

    The union leaders fat cat rich list
    one on £530K
    The average of the top 29 public sector union bosses was £154K in 2019.


    • StewGreen says:

      Education union leaders topped the Public Sector Trade Union Rich List, with six senior staff sharing £1,296,869 between them, it said.

      Paul Whiteman, general secretary of the National Association of Head Teachers, was the second highest paid, with an annual package of £211,286. The union declined to comment.


      • Guest Who says:

        Other rich socialists the BBC like (besides Owen and Champion):


      • tarien says:

        Well StewGreen, what would you say to such outrages if you were in a Union where the leader, so called, was paid or had an earning level of over half a million pounds? Yes I thought you would and just as I would- b’…disgraceful. One family member has now moved jobs where he will not be a member of a Union-he feels sad that these people are taking the Mike, from as he says, so many who are struggling to make ends meet. Have a son, now MD of a successful organisation nearly £100 million t/o paid he thinks well, but somewhat below those Union Leaders on half a mil.


  42. StewGreen says:

    Jeremy Clarkson
    Chris Whitty’s science says, ‘Stay indoors and hide.’ says,
    … ‘What a load of tripe’

    Entire article


  43. Guest Who says:

    ITTB has a fun one:

    I make that ‘they got it about wrong’ but are going high dudgeon on a ‘tell it often enough’ basis to make it look like they have not.

    Lots of questions being asked too. Most likely BBC FOI exempted.


  44. Fedup2 says:

    I suppose mr Neill is never gonna get a job with the BBC again with non groupthink words like those

    But the point about the BBC failing to hold the EU to account is well made . Did it ever ?


  45. Fedup2 says:

    Keir starmer self isolating . Nice timing to avoid being the EUs bitch in the House again


  46. StewGreen says:

    Breaking News : Keir Starmer is isolating due to symptoms of someone in his house
    .. last place he was is in a radio studio (not Talk Radio)


  47. Jeff says:

    I think all freedom loving Englishmen should completely ignore this ludicrous and arbitrary “rule of 6.”
    I’m not by nature a rebel. I don’t like trouble and I don’t like to disobey the law. But this one is a horse’s arse.

    Our insane over reaction to the pan panic was already potty, but now it’s draconian and ugly. They’re going to employ professional snitches to enforce these horrible rules. And I don’t doubt there will be plenty queuing up for the jobs…

    This has come from freedom and leg over loving Boris! The politician who always put a smile on your face. For Gawd’s sake even Corbyn couldn’t be doing a worse job. Enough!

    It seems to me that Johnson has been in the company of these health experts for far too long. They’d have us locked up ad infinitum. Have you ever seen a more miserable looking bloke than Chris Whitty? I’m sure he’s an undertaker on his days off…
    And every time Boris leaves Number 10 he’s confronted by the three witches, Laura, Beth and that irritating, twitching twerp Peston, ready to accost him with a diatribe about harder lockdowns. If he wants to give us another lockdown, he can start with those three!.

    Being sympathetic for a moment, perhaps the poor bloke is suffering from some form of political Stockholm Syndrome?
    If only… While we’re all shuffling about muzzled and miserable…

    Stockholm is doing just fine.


  48. StewGreen says:

    New film about the most famous TV licence rebel
    1961 Kempton Bunton stole a Goya painting to make a statement about BBC licence fee
    Bunton had been fined £2 by Newcastle magistrates for not paying his licence fee, despite telling them his set was only tuned to ITV. Refusing to pay the fine, he went to prison for 13 days.

    When he read that the Treasury had coughed up a significant portion of the £140,000 required to buy a famous Goya painting for the nation, Bunton was outraged.

    What lunacy was this, wasting on a mere painting of the Duke of Wellington
    the kind of money that could subsidise the cost of the BBC licence for thousands?

    Jim Broadbent stars
    and the reviewer said it’s his best performance ever.


  49. Doobster78 says:

    So let me just get this straight .

    BBC turn off comments about the Virtue Signalling , BLM activist Lewis Hamilton due to , so called, “hate speech” .


    BBC’s Jo Brand says she would like to throw battery acid at a politician and the BBC’s Miriam Margolyes wished the PM dead whilst suffering Covid … and what happens ….. she gets a new series on prime time BBC.

    Like Fed says, hate speech to the BBC is anything , anything at all that the liberal left dont agree with.

    The double standards at the BBC are DISGUSTING.


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