Weekend Thread 12 September 2020

The Last Night of The Proms . A competition .The Biased Far Left Woke BBC will be Spinning the Proms for its own political ends. Let’s predict what it will do …….

Elsewhere the pro EU BBC Has dug up the anti democratic ghosts of Remain to rerun Project Fear . We have left their EU.

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338 Responses to Weekend Thread 12 September 2020

  1. taffman says:

    “Some say” that Boris is going to get though on criminals and extremists? Life sentences for those under 21 ?

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  2. pugnazious says:

    Hmmm….young people are getting the blame for the rise in covid19 cases…it may well be young people…but if so young people from which communities?

    Look at the map and the hotspots are the usual suspects…..cities with large immigrant communities, especially Muslim.

    https://www.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=47574f7a6e454dc6a42c5f6912ed7076

    The BBC is pushing the government line that cases are rising…not just because testing has increased, and that hospitalisation is also rising.

    Cases are certainly rising….in very specific locations….

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/cases

    But hospitalisation, which may lag, isn’t……

    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare

    11 Sept patients in hospital…..600

    11 Aug patients in hospital….606

    Why are we plunging back into lockdown and why is it national?

    Why isn’t the BBC asking any questions? Where is that famous ‘Holding power to account’ that Lord Hall told us was the essential reason for the BBC’s existence?

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  3. Foscari says:

    I am really looking forward to the “shake up” of a Question of
    Sport on the BBC.Sue Barker and captains Matt Dawson and
    Phil Tufnell are leaving.
    I do hope that the new presenter will be somebody like
    Alex Scott and the new captains are those of the broadcasting
    and sporting ability of Sarah Hunter the English woman’s rugby
    captain and Nicola Adams the boxer who held the WBO female flyweight title.
    But I suppose I should be more diverse and Dame Tanni Grey
    Thomson should be the presenter.Of course the problem for
    this may well be having to take the knee before the programme
    kicks off.

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  4. Fedup2 says:

    Telegraph Watch

    One Columnist Bubble Dweller – Simon the Heffer’s reaction to LNOTP as the BBC will now call it-

    The debate about the Last Night of the Proms raises the question of what sort of event it is. It has passed from mere music into that field we call tradition, and like most traditions dates back only to just beyond living memory. We may be an old country, but few of our “traditions” would have been familiar to the average Victorian or Edwardian, the generations most assiduous in creating them.

    However, some take hold strongly in what by historical standards is a very short time precisely because they are so popular. All Proms apart from the Last Night are musical events; but the Last Night has a broader cultural resonance. It has become an annual national sing-song, the songs sung heartily with little regard for the lyrics by people who are not jingoists, racists or white supremacists. Over the past 60 years or so, since the Last Night was first shown on television, the BBC has cultivated it as a celebration of national identity, and rightly so. Therefore the corporation has only itself to blame if it attracts opprobrium by tinkering with it.

    “I do not hold the director of the Proms, David Pickard, responsible for the recent farrago, which has damaged the BBC, I fear, far more than even the new director-general, Tim Davie, yet realises. (Full disclosure: Pickard and I have known each other for 40 years and I have the highest admiration for him; he is a brilliant impresario.) But it is a rare senior BBC executive who has complete autonomy. He or she is usually surrounded by box-tickers who ensure compliance with whatever the ruling orthodoxy of the moment happens to be. When Pickard’s formidable predecessor, Roger Wright, resigned and went to make a conspicuous success of Britten-Pears Arts at Snape, it was reported that he had had enough of interference by people largely ignorant of what he did. I fear Pickard (who has not discussed this with me) has experienced something similar.

    This moment’s ruling orthodoxy for the BBC’s compliance commissars has been Black Lives Matter. Tonight’s Finnish conductor, Dalia Stasevska, was quoted by a BBC source in August as being a BLM supporter who thought this an ideal moment to “bring change” to the Proms. Neither Stasevska nor the BBC seems to realise that the local iteration of BLM is an anarchist organisation including numerous white people committed to the destruction of capitalism.

    It was initially rumoured that neither Rule, Britannia! nor Land of Hope and Glory would be performed, because of an alleged association with the “imperial” past. Then it was confirmed they would be played but without the words – for artistic reasons, since the Albert Hall will be empty, precluding a sing-along. There followed a largely ignorant debate on the meaning of the lyrics. Various prominent and thoughtful black people said this absurdity was not in their name. Even Keir Starmer said not singing the words was nonsense.

    Perhaps fortified by this pronouncement, coming from the spiritual leader of so many BBC executives, it was then announced the words would be sung – moments after Davie took over. However, those who listen tonight will suffer an arrangement of Jerusalem “dedicated to the Windrush generation”. Hubert Parry, more genuinely liberal than any BLM fanatic, wrote a perfectly good arrangement when he composed the song: it is ludicrous posturing not to play it.

    What’s more, there doesn’t seem to me to be a good reason to have no audience tonight – other than the can’t-do compliance culture of the BBC. I went recently to a superb concert at Snape, one of many this autumn organised at short notice by Wright, featuring Antonio Pappano and the strings of the LPO, that enraptured a sell-out socially distanced crowd in the hall. The BBC could easily have done this in the cavernous Albert Hall. The organisation’s sclerosis has seldom been so visible, nor the distance at which the compliance commissars put themselves from those who pay their salaries through the licence fee.

    The BBC is not the broadcasting wing of BLM, as a senior corporation figure has mordantly suggested. For most Britons the national sing-song is about their history, not about the mindless oppression of minorities. Dissenters have the choice of doing something else, should exercise it, and leave the majority alone.”ENDS

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  5. StewGreen says:

    BBCR4Sunday (Sunday is a religious and ethical news programme on BBC Radio 4 regularly presented by Edward Stourton)

    Yesterday they tweeted
    Tomorrow we’ll be hearing about the launch of two major climate change faith projects @CelebrationErth.
    Will you be one of the 8 billion people to share their story of protecting the planet?

    That’s the BBC promoting their chosen metroliberal NGOs as news
    #PRasNews

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Replacing the worship of God with some pagan climate worship is just about right for the BBC these days – its possessed !

      I wonder if it would ever run a story on a Church like mine where I cannot attend on Sunday because of the strict infection controls in place . The RC Church has decreed that any day of the week is “OK” but Sunday is still a bit of a ritual – as is the cleaning of the Church after Mass……

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, you have just blasphemed or something. You have forgotten all about the BBC’s and, sadly, the UK’s or Parliament’s other little ‘g’ god, the NHS. Shame! Forsooth, away to the stocks with him. It’s all getting a bit medieval, is it not?

        Won’t be long before Street Marshall’s are locking one of a group of seven into suitably socially distanced stocks in our High Streets for the people to throw sponges full of sanitiser at them.

        All these pagan deities about the place.

        Drain the swamp. Clear the house.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Up2 – i think the disciples would have problems with that size of group as well as Our Lord needing to socially distance – 40 days a bit much though

          Ive got another 14 days coming up

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    • StewGreen says:

      Martin Palmer Seems like an activist using the Saul Alinsky techniques of Entryism to hijack a NGO to use its resources to push your own political dogma
      .. that is bad cos it is anti-democratic.

      The NGO he’s hijacking is the entire resources of organised religion.

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    • richard D says:

      StewGreen @7:26am

      “Will you be one of the 8 billion people to share their story of protecting the planet?”

      Does the BBC never tire of finagling the figures ? Shades of Democrat voting statistics in the US, perhaps ?

      There is a total of only 7.8 billion people across the whole of the earth, and far from all of them will have a clue about what you are blabbering on about.

      Or perhaps two or three hundred million sheep and goats in certain parts of the world have risen above their coital attraction to the males of said parts, and self-identified as humans, just in the interests of sharing their stories, you understand ?

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    • DickMart says:

      The Sunday programme is an absolute disgrace. Supposedly a religious affairs programme, one of the very few on BBC radio, its reports on Christianity are overwhelmingly negative, except for wokey items. It has a rather more favourable attitude towards Islam.

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  6. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    “The debate is over, around climate change. This is a climate damn emergency. This is real and it’s happening.”

    ***

    It’s OK; they are quoting a source.

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  7. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Police in Paris have detained more than 200 people, after the “yellow vest” movement attempted to revive its anti-government protests.

    The protest comes as France grapples with a resurgence in coronavirus cases.

    bbc.in/2DXW2WO

    ****

    Comments are noting the famous bbc commitment to multiple standards.

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  8. AsISeeIt says:

    The Sunday papers – it’s a very British phrase. One which brings to mind getting up late, a leisurely breakfast, pottering around the house catching up on those little chores, perhaps indulging time in a cherished hobby. The sort of activies one might envisage as readily available to a retired ex-Prime Minister. And yet here they come, right on cue, Blair and Major, former managers of British decline, to take yet another pyrrhic pro-Brussels parting shot.

    The Sunday Times has: ”Shocking’ Johnson shames UK, say ex-PMs’ – frankly the bending to breaking point of international law so as to invade Iraq was a bit of a shock, as was the financial shame of the UK crashing out of the ERM.

    The Observer of course wants to call in the lawyers: ‘Top lawyers slam ministers for wrecking UK’s reputation’

    So, a pro-EU lawyer PM would be the ideal choice to bring the UK back under the thumb of Brussels? The Telegraph just happens to host Sir Keir Starmer: ‘Stop banging on about Brexit and defeat Covid’ – yeah, come on Boris, stop trying to fulfill your election promise of getting Brexit done, put on your white coat and get to work on a vaccine.

    The broadsheets have a really bad case of the man flu (Fu Manchu Flu?) The Times shrieks: ‘Virus cases in care homes spiral again’ – I would be interested to hear a full explantion of this statistical term “spiral” but perhaps some other time. For our enlightenment the Times may print the graph of a spiral. That would be a Spirograph – there’s one for the teenagers.

    The Mail on Sunday continues to pussyfoot around the garden with their niche campaigns rather than properly question lockdown policy: ‘End the truama of lone births. Covid rules are forcing mothers to endure labour without loved ones by their side. Today the MoS demands…’

    The Mail on Sunday encroaches on typical BBC territory with their exclusive: ‘The rugby ace who wants to tell the world: I’m bisexual’ – keep it to yourself, son.

    The Times encroaches on typical tabloid territory with their headline exposing the plight of unwanted elderly pet parrots: ‘Would you adopt an 87-year old misogynist who squawks?’

    Since you put like that, we already have to make do with another daft old squawker who seems determined to keep parroting on until he drops off his perch – David Attenborough in the Mail: ‘The devastatingly powerful book he says is his legacy’

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    • G says:

      Asl,
      “‘Virus cases in care homes spiral again’ ”

      I’m increasingly seeing credible (startling) anecdotal evidence of how Ivermectin works, particularly in care homes. Yet, the ‘system’ doesn’t seem interested. Probably because there’s no vast sums of money to be made compared to a “New” vaccine which will yet have unknown side effects. Oxford has still not resumed their research.

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      • G says:

        It’s almost as if there’s a conspiracy to legitimately kill off (under the guise of Covid) OAP’s in Care Homes……………

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      • StewGreen says:

        Care Homes getting more positive tests.
        ..that doesn’t mean granny is getting it.
        Most of the tests are used on staff.

        Staff that have weakspots
        eg often come from immigrant houses where a large extended family live under one roof
        .. perhaps more likely to have lower standards due to language barriers etc.

        =========

        BTW the wonderdrug video smells like BS

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  9. Fedup2 says:

    AISI
    And the guardianista says –

    “ BBC radio reporters axed and told to reapply for jobs”

    The job application aldo encourages applicants to ‘ get a tan ‘ and ‘find a disability’ if they want to get past the first stage ( this may – may – be made up )

    Living in West London or Islington will still be seen as an ‘advantage ‘

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  10. Up2snuff says:

    NON-TOADY Watch #1 – Sunday and a lack of a TODAY programme doesn’t stop BBC toadying 🙁

    If John Major and Tony Blair are agin it, then the PM and Cabinet are on exactly the right track with the proposed Internal Markets Bill.

    They should be supported by all those who do not wish to see the people of Northern Ireland starved by the EU as an act of revenge for Brexit. Quite how such a great humanitarian as Tony Blair (cough, cough, illegal war, cough splutter?) and a great humanitarian John Major (banning of land-mines, best thing he ever did as PM – cough, cough, only good thing?) could want to see the people of Northern Ireland deprived of food from 1 January 2021, only they can and should explain.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      The legal mafia are also up in arms
      Over the Bill – perhaps because they know if the Supreme blair court tries to take on HMG again it will lose .
      The Lords also need to be careful because they could be subject to ‘ reform ‘ as well if they perform in the same shameful way they did in the last Traitor Parliament – now what happened to that ‘ change ‘ party ? ….

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Oh, I hope so, Fed, I really do. Quite what Bojo was thinking when he signed that bit of paper – or how he got suckered into it by ‘our’ Civil Service, I do not know. Perhaps the PM’s brain was stuck in his trouser zip?

        He really ought to have been aware of what was going on with Whitehall and had an independent lawyer whizz an eye over the Withdrawal Agreement. Hopefully, with his recently-won majority and pre-Pandemic (and before his own dose of Covid-19) he would have struck through the offending clause with ink and said “I’ll sign the rest, but that bit goes.” “OK?”

        If the EU Gauleiters didn’t like it, hopefully Bojo would have had the bottle to tear it all up and leave. But no. He’s backed himself into yet another battle.

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      • theisland says:

        Speaking of the legal mafia it looks like Joanna Cherry will be concentrating on trying to stop us leaving the ECHR.
        Starmer continues with diversionary tactics such as appearing as Saddick’s ‘friend’ (but as ever all options are on the table).

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    • Scroblene says:

      “If John Major and Tony Blair are agin it, then the PM and Cabinet are on exactly the right track with the proposed Internal Markets Bill.”

      Perfect description of the correct position, Up!

      I swished back a final glass of claret to come and write exactly that, so thank you from the heart of my bottom!

      Why anyone with a pulse is asked to believe a liar and a faded (twice – he was a grey old phart to start with) idiot, is beyond me.

      I suppose I know of a few sad old lefties who like this sort of Sunday bolleaux, but leave me out of the adoration stakes purlease…

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  11. Guest Who says:

    Without peeking, which one of the American BS team do you think is that ‘I’?

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  12. Tabs says:

    Pretty much 99% of the comments are negative for the Woke Music at the Proms last night.

    Well done BBC for getting it so wrong again and again.

    *WARNING! – Listening to the “music” might make your ears bleed *

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    • Old Goat says:

      My God. Was this BBC revenge for being forced to change their minds? Proms? Used to be an aficionado, shan’t bother again.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        OG, I wonder whether Covid-19 will bring some New Realities as well as New Normal to life. The BBC Proms goes woke and goes broke.

        Another orchestra, desperate to earn some dosh for its members and conductor find a venue somewhere – maybe one with plenty of space for social distancing – and puts on an ‘alternative Prom’ or Proper Prom as we might call it. The public flock to hear them.

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  13. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Just seen on parler that in the George Floyd case it’s been revealed that he was a police informer.
    I wonder how all his mates, disciples and followers feel about that.
    Police informer dies of self inflicted drug overdose.

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    • pugnazious says:

      EG…..it was murder due to police brutality….although we haven’t had a trial yet we do have many credible BBC reports that suggest this was so.

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      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Pug,
        I appreciate that you always post comments with fully backed up details whereas I only go by what I read on other sites so I bow to your better informed reply.

        I have read several times that Floyd had taken more than a lethal dose of Fentanyl which was in his body when he was arrested and that is why I put it in my original comment.

        If this is wrong then I withdraw that part of the comment.

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        • pugnazious says:

          EG…I get all my news from the most trustworthy and impartial source there is…the BBC….yes, I have heard rumours that George Floyd died from cardiac arrest whilst under the influence of powerful narcotics and was not asphyxiated by a brutal white police officer…and that he was in fact saying ‘I can’t breathe’ whilst sat up-right, unrestrained, in the police vehicle long before he was knelt on….but hey…If it ain’t on the BBC it can’t be true….it never happened.

          So…definitely a brutal murder of an unarmed blackman by a white supremacist police officer.

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  14. pugnazious says:

    Listening to the BBC news reports of Rule Britannia being sung at the Proms and you’d think the BBC had always wanted to play the ‘controversial’ song with its ‘controversial’ echoes of imperialism but were prevented from doing so by mysterious forces.

    Call me cynical but any chance this was a deliberately staged controversy that the BBC knew would immediately hit the headlines and cause outrage?

    Timing is of course the secret of success.

    Any chance this was staged so that the new DG, Tim Davie, could ride to the rescue and establish his credentials as a new broom that would make sure the BBC isn’t perceived as the liberal lefty swampland that it has become and thus take the pressure off the BBC and undermine its critics with a high-profile, pro-British U-Turn?

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    • taffman says:

      IMHO
      Omitting ‘Rule Britannia’ from the proms was a deliberately timed attempt to undermine the patriotic fabric of our proud nation All this at the same time as Covid, BLM, Antifa, extinction rebellion etc and the promotion of a woke culture in pulling down statues, defacing war memorials and the re-writing of of British history, just as we are heading towards freedom from Europe. Note all the Europhile ‘hasbeens’ emerging at the same time, spouting their ant Brexit vitriol. All a pure coincidence?
      I think not .

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    • Scroblene says:

      Yup, spot on Pug and Taff!

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  15. pugnazious says:

    Interested to keep hearing that the changes to the Withdrawal Agreement ‘threaten peace’ in Northern Ireland. Isn’t it in fact a murderous terrorist organisation that ‘threatens peace’ in Northern Ireland, along with the dangerous and cynical politicians and media who use the IRA as a proxy army to enforce their demands?

    Where is the outrage that a bunch of terrorists can have control over British national decisions?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      pug, the reality from NI as maybe the occasional contributor here, rich, will confirm is that the peace in NI following the Peace Agreement has been very fragile and one-sided. There have been frequent breaches. And not only do the I.R.A. still exist but we have The Continuity I.R.A. added to them, the Provos and Sinn Fein.

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      • Rich says:

        I believe you’re right Snuff, as is Pug.

        A very simple question that the media ignore, who exactly is threatening the peace? It’s all of the above that you mention of course, who continue to control the narrative, aided and abetted by the majority of the media North and South and now also East and West, and who are being allowed to indiscriminately and falsely rewrite history.

        It seems to me that the media favour two groups here. An emboldened and indoctrinated Nationalist youth, their heads full of romantic Republican tales spewed by cowardly fireside fusiliers, who go unchallenged by those who should and could. and also the self- loathing chattering classes from North Down and South Belfast who worry more about their journeys to Dublin to watch rugby twice a year and their annual ski trips being lengthened by half-an-hour than their “embarrassing and bigoted” culture being ridiculed and eroded. The presentation of these viewpoints as being truly representative of the province as a whole is disingenuous and deliberately misleading.

        The perception amongst the still-just-about majority Unionist population is that they have and are being talked around and ignored. The conflated notion that voting to remain in the EU as NI numerically did means that the people of NI want a United Ireland is wrong. Very, very wrong.

        The higher populated areas of North and East Ulster, traditionally working-class Protestant and prosperous voted to leave the EU and are overwhelmingly pro-union. It would be very stupid to ignore them.

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        • Rich says:

          I wasn’t actually aware that the above had posted as I received a timeout error message when I tired to post it originally. I haven’t had one of those before but the post appeared although I didn’t get a chance to edit it.

          There were a couple of other points.

          “emboldened youth… every woke agenda, oblivious yet opposed to every opinion different to their own”

          “chattering classes… disproportionate number of public sector pseudos, economically insulated, who inhabit the same bubble as their media cohorts”

          “a majority in the North and East of Ulster, traditionally working-class Protestant and prosperous even before the EU, now losing large numbers of well-paid factory jobs to Europe and experiencing social issues connected to relatively high rates of Eastern European immigration, voted to leave the EU and are overwhelmingly pro-Union”.

          Not dissimilar to the issues on the mainland then but you wouldn’t know it.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Libmob .. “breaking the law means other countries won’t trust us”

      FFS sticking to ridiculous laws ensures that other countries trust they can walk all over us.
      … whereas breaking the law sends the right signal.

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  16. Jeff says:

    The Last Night of the Proms was one of those programmes I looked forward to and always watched. Patriotic, rousing, full of vim, vigour and humour. Absolutely and brilliantly British! Last night’s attempt was a pitiful embarrassment.

    The BBC have been trying to destroy this event for yonks. It’s really not their cup of Darjeeling. They find both it and its devotees embarrassing and jingoistic. In recent years we’ve seen the hall flooded with Euro flags. Completely inappropriate and in appalling taste.

    Last night, due to the pan-panic, it was always going to be difficult. It couldn’t be otherwise, but trust the Beeb, to make a bad job absolutely dreadful.

    Just what the Hell did they do with Jerusalem? It’s not supposed to be a scatty, out of tune jazz number. We all know it. We all love it. And we all want it. That’s why we’re watching and listening. And they foist upon us some grotesque abomination.

    The BBC continue to treat us licence fee payers like dirt. They behave like pampered teenage kids having a strop. They didn’t want to give us the traditional rousing finale, but were forced to. So, they got their own back by foisting this God awful, dire dirge on us.
    They loathe our history. They loathe our culture. And apart from our money, they loathe us.

    I’ve got a message for them.
    The feeling is mutual…

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    • taffman says:

      Jeff
      “They loathe our history. They loathe our culture. And apart from our money, they loathe us.”

      “They” then , should emigrate to a country that would best suit them.
      Simples

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    • Deborah says:

      Mr D kindly played part of Jerusalem as it was performed last night. I suggest Madame Edith from Allo Allo could have done better.

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    • gb123 says:

      Quite frankly, I have heard better renditions of popular British songs in a Japanese Karaoke bar.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      ……They loathe our history. They loathe our culture. And apart from our money, they loathe us…..

      What else can we expect when most of the BBC staff have no idea of our history, because they are either BAME or young Caucasians who couldn’t tell you when WW2 took place.

      Eventually these rousing songs will die out, because they mean sod all to the generations coming up behind us.

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      • G says:

        Brissles,
        Yes, they loathe us, our whiteness and all that they have been given by white folk over the years. They have been gifted a misplaced platform from which they seek to Lord over us. One word?
        Jealous.
        Because, no matter how they try, they cannot duplicate us. And that’s why they will always be bitter and twisted. Only one answer: taffman has it right above.

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        • BRISSLES says:

          G, Jealous ? yes I have to agree – jealous that they too aren’t white. If it wasn’t so, then many young black girls would not go to great lengths in trying to whiten their skin; and then there was Michael Jackson – who became paler with every passing year.

          I read that Alesha Dixon is standing by the Diversity dance on BGT, and supports Ashley Banjo, and will consider leaving the show if ITV apologises in response to the number of complaints.

          Well, as Ms Dixon is mixed race, I wonder what the hell her white parent thinks about that ! Isn’t it amazing how all these mixed race are all coming down on the side of their black parent ?

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  17. Old Goat says:

    The Proms.

    That was the BBC exacting revenge for being obliged to have those beloved songs “sung”, rather than hinted at.

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  18. G.W.F. says:

    Jeff

    I did not see the entire show but saw the slaughter of Jerusalem. I hope the token felt proud of herself obeying her masters at the BBC. I also saw a bit of the whispering choir on Land of Hope, and saw a glimpse of a violinist at one point looking as if she had just shXt herself and felt that her white dress would never recover.
    Time the proms was removed from the BBC or better the BBC was removed.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Yesterday morning if I hadn’t gone out
      I would have written that we should prepare ourselves for a the BBC to pull a stunt like having a black lesbian choir.

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  19. StewGreen says:

    Rod Liddle yesterday .. sensible as ever
    .. The wrongspeak about saying smokers don’t get Covid
    – Opinion polls, way out of step with reality
    – unworkable Rule Of 6
    – The wrongspeak that means ALL conservatives like Tony Abbott are banned from committees even though their opinions are in line with most or much of the public ..say on gay marriage.

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  20. JimS says:

    Caught a bit of Andrew Marr this morning.

    Ten minutes of trying to get the Justice minister to resign or ‘red line’ his commitment to resign.

    Marr says that he has never known us break international law and tells us that John Major and Tony Blair aren’t happy.

    Why is it that the BBC never remembers Labour’s times in office? Wasn’t there a chappy, called Tony Blair, who took us into a war in Iraq, in violation of ‘international law’?

    Then follows an ‘interview’ with a young lady from WHO in which she talks without interruption until he tries to goad her into criticising the UK’s Covid ‘strategy’.

    This parliament, (the lot of them), have driven a herd of buffalo through UK legislation and common law yet n’er a whisper from ‘holding power to account’ BBC, (chief stampede stewards).

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    • G says:

      Jim,
      More to the point, we don’t understand why John Major and Tony Bliar are not locked up pending hanging.

      ‘International Law’? Of what worth when we’ve got that little shitweasel, the Londonistan Mayor, setting the process in place to destroy features of Londonistan. Hitler couldn’t do it but the muslim son of a bus driver can.
      All suffering from islamic megalomania

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  21. pugnazious says:

    The BBC are always very concerned about media freedom[er…of its fellow travellers not those in the right-wing press such as those shut down by Extinction Rebelllion eco-terrorism] and often express outrage that Trump dare criticise the 90% of US media that campaigns to stop him. They were very concerned about a CNN journalist arrested by Police in Minneapolis reporting…

    ‘CNN called the arrests a “clear violation of their First Amendment rights” in a tweet. The First Amendment to the US constitution protects freedom of speech and of association. ‘

    Oddly not so concerned about a right-leaning journalist getting even worse treatment in Australia….

    Maybe one reason is he’s Jewish and is a critic of the BBC’s partial, in every sense, reporting as they only report the parts of a story that suits their own narrative…here he caught them out in the usual lie [which is ironic as they alwasy castigate Trump for miscoutning crowd numbers]….

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    • StewGreen says:

      Ah it has the end bit where a policeman has been issued with a list of those arrested that day
      and is touring their houses at night checking they are in compliance.
      When he turns up at Avi’s hous, Avi sends him away ..cos he has video proof his was a wrongful arrest.. the police claim that he defied an order is not true.

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  22. Guest Who says:

    Craig shares a chap called Simon politely slicing a BBC Disinformation Operative like a sushi chef…

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2020/09/qanon-cuties-and-bbc.html

    Delcious.

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  23. pugnazious says:

    After creating the impression that he is a force for change at the BBC, willing to tame the Woke, will Tim Davie reinforce that impression and turn it into reality and release the Balen Report?

    The BBC spent 100’s of thousands of £’s in order to hide the conclusions of the report…a report not done as an annual internal tick-box health check on the BBC’s work but done in response to external pressure from the Israeli government which refused to cooperate with the BBC due to its anti-Israeli bias and thus should be published for all to see….what does the BBC have to hide?

    The fact that they refuse to publish it shows they do have something to hide and that they are not open, transparent and accountable.

    About time we knew exactly what is in that report and why the BBC thought it so damaging to their reputation that they had to bury it deep.

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  24. StewGreen says:

    Songs are often political, so I am not sure Ofcom would be right to censure a routine just cos it’s political
    but if BGT wouldn’t have an EDL dance routine, then it shouldn’t have a George Floyd one.

    This is an interesting tweet

    Yes Banjo did tweet
    “Silence was never and will never be an option”

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  25. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Question: Is there a means of embedding a poll in the comments section?

    Please upvote this comment if yes.

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  26. vlad says:

    Trump is holding almost daily mass rallies, full to capacity and bursting with energy and enthusiasm.

    But you would never know it from the BBC, who report none of it. Bias by omission.

    Instead you get never-ending pieces denigrating him and the GOP. More bias.

    Please let him win, if only to see the long faces at the beeb.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election/us2020

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Vlad
      Im sure the Americans see the BBC as just another socialist european wimp and treat it accordingly – third worlders still think it speaks the truth but grown ups know better .

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      • vlad says:

        Sadly many Americans still have the old perception of the beeb: tradition, WW2, Churchill speeches, monarchy, fair play… sophisticated, intelligent, cultured, impartial. Even the British accent inspires trust in them.

        How tragic that the bbc is still trading on those long gone qualities, and are now no better than the American fake news outlets like CNN etc.

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Vlad. I think a mass breakdown in law & order is inevitable in the US leading to some sort of civil war.

      I also think the English culture and its western enlightenment values will also inevitably be destroyed.

      However I still think we should fight against the dying out of the light.

      It might end up like George Orwell’s 1984, but I don’t think it will be so peaceable. Enoch Powell was intelligent and wise and what he said was worthy of serious attention rather than derision and mockery.

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      • Dobyns says:

        Broadcasting … not to worry, it will be a mostly peaceful Civil War

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      • Square-Eyed says:

        BoBotC – Yes, a few days ago I posted an article about the Democrats’ plans to remove Trump by a coup in the event of him winning the election, which could precipitate a civil war. You might well have seen it.

        However some American commentators, Bill Still for one, are reminding folk of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution made shortly after the Civil War ended in 1865. It was designed specifically to prevent a repetition. The question is, will Trump deploy it in the present circumstances?

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  27. Dobyns says:

    FedUp2,

    Most of my American friends think the bBc is the model of journalistic probity, shining like a diamond in a goat’s a**.

    I’ve provided them with numerous examples of the bias in al beeb which they do not want to hear. I usually get castigated for watching too much FOX News – even though there’s no FOX News here.

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  28. richard D says:

    A Third Nobel Peace Prize nomination for Donald Trump may be in the offing. This might follow from the normalisation of interactions, and the establishment of full diplomatic relationships, between Israel and Bahrain, with the direct support of The President’s team

    …….and perhaps even a fourth, as he and his team have been instrumental in the normalisation of relationships between Morocco and Israel.

    I bet all of this just grinds the BBC’s collective T!T$ – primarily because so many of these awards involve Muslim-majority countries – you know, the ones that the Democrats and the BBC wailed endlessly that he was violating with his ‘racist’ travel vetoes… which were simply an extension of Mr Obama’s plans anyway.

    Oh, and ‘tradition’ just about dictates that other leaders involved in peace initiatives, despite their history (like Yasser Arafat and others with trerrorist backgrounds), are also nominated for such such awards – sooo, what also might send the Beeboids in general through the roof, is that Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli Prime Minister, might also get nominated, given his multiple involvements in these events.

    I’d love to witness their apoplexy if these things came to pass, no matter whether the prizes are awarded or not (I can’t see the ‘woke’ Nobel Committee standing for anything of that sort – deserving or otherwise).

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  29. StewGreen says:

    Protesting black taxi drivers called Sadiq the C-word
    .. Labour Muslim councillor said that is racist (it isn’t)
    ..and labelled them as “Gammon” ( a racist term of course)

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    • StewGreen says:

      He’s got form
      When an Australian politician speculated
      ” in the UK where 429 Muslims are in political office and now hold massive influence over law making including introducing Sharia Law.
      … Islam is not compatible with Australia and our politics.”

      Chowdhury thought he would add a funny reply
      “I’m one of them.
      Can’t wait til I introduce Shariah Law in Ilford.”
      .. He apologized and deleted his tweet

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  30. StewGreen says:

    4:30pm R4 poetry show
    Presenter “Rachel Long is a poet and founder of Octavia Poetry Collective for Women of Colour”

    Topic : A Manual For Dreaming *Womxn*

    Guests : @KishWidyaratna (poet of colour)
    @CarolineBirdUK and Nuar Alsadir (Twitter name @FrthPrsnSnglr)

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  31. Guest Who says:

    Golly, he’s joined BBC ECU?

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  32. Guest Who says:

    Champion sticking it to da man, still.

       3 likes

  33. Guest Who says:

    Maybe the BBC could investigate?

    Once it has discovered what it is paying June Sarpong.

       12 likes

  34. theisland says:

    5/7 Yet it has been made clear to us in the current talks that there is no guarantee of listing us [as a 3rd country]. I am afraid it has also been said to us explicitly in these talks that if we are not listed we will not be able to move food to Northern Ireland.

    6/7 The EU’s position is that listing is needed for Great Britain only, not Northern Ireland. So if GB were not listed, it would be automatically illegal for NI to import food products from GB.

    Nothing on the bBC?
    Time to ditch the WA.

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  35. Guest Who says:

    🙂

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  36. Guest Who says:

    One for Fed.

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  37. theisland says:

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  38. Guest Who says:

    A sad reminder as various groups here get excited, selectively, about who does what.

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  39. StewGreen says:

    @BBCCountryfile have their Agenda Pushing Bingo Card to fill
    That report gave us
    “Global Warming”
    “Tory Cuts”
    .. next item “charidee” ramble
    now ffing calendar pay money to vote scam
    etc.

    “a third of children in Stoke live in poverty”

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    • StewGreen says:

      “Poverty” ..tick

      “a third of children in Stoke live in poverty”
      … Yeh they may well be in families with income below £195 a week
      (The 60% of the median income, which is the definition of poverty)
      But rarely the African poverty we imagine.

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  40. Fedup2 says:

    Can any one who does numbers explain the 3300? Covid infections against a few deaths related to covid reported today –

    Also – is there a regional – age – hospital related breakdown of these numbers because to me – national figures are next to useless apart from indicating an overall up or down

    So loon who owns theatres is opening a few in London and giving free seats To NHS staff- well that should push the London R rate up nicely ….

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  41. Fedup2 says:

    Do you notice that private citizens who were once judges have been given a free pass in criticising the government plan to push through the trade negotiations .

    Separating the courts and parliament used to be one of those constitutional law shibboleths all first year law students had to recite . Doesn’t seems to apply now 9th the judges express the shared views of the MSM ….

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  42. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Lewis Hamilton at the Tuscany Grand Prix wore a shirt saying “Arrest the Cops Who Killed Breona Taylor”. This seems to be a new development by BLM and their multi-millionaire sports celebrities like Naomi Osaka – where they intervene on a specific police case and get the global media to spread their BLM revolution /anti-police /kangaroo court / civil disorder & lynching type message.

    I add that the BBC have been promoting BLM through Naomi Osaka (winner of the US Open Grand Slam), which went straight as a top story on their BBC news channel (NewsRound).

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  43. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    So the BBC have a news item displayed prominently on their News Homepage:
    Israeli minister resigns over plans for second lockdown” …

    … and I think to myself why does the BBC think this is newsworthy for a British audience?

    Now I know the BBC are anti-Semitic as well as anti-Israel so I think to myself the BBC are probably pushing an anti-Israel or anti-Jew narrative.

    However, as I just don’t have the time to look at the article in any detail, I just printed it off as a pdf file and saved it and might look at it later if I ever get the time.

    However, my first thought was that it was odd for the BBC to be headlining this. I mean throughout the world ministers are resigning so why the crap should the BBC be bringing this to my attention?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-54134869

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  44. Guest Who says:

    The BBC loves socialism.

    Break out the Bolly!

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  45. Guest Who says:

    Anyone?

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  46. StewGreen says:

    #BlueLivesMatters is trending cos of an unprovoked run up gunattack on 2 sheriffs in a parked up car.

    Second tweet mentions a female ran forward and was also arrested
    She claimed to be a member of the press, who wasn’t carrying her press pass.

       4 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Now something ugly happened
      It can’t be from normal BLM protesters
      Hyper activists are trying to hijack the #BlueLivesMatter hashtag , by tweeting whataboutery
      ..eg ‘what about these 2 blue cartoon characters’ etc.

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  47. StewGreen says:

    FFS They’re doing an International version of The News Quiz
    .. so foreign comedians can also sneer at Trump and Brexit
    ..and have canned laughter make out they’re funny.
    .. Presented by married lesbians
    Palestinian and Israeli ..tick box

    https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcworldservice/status/1302204453563621379

       3 likes

  48. taffman says:

    Are London Stabbings becoming so frequent that Al Beeb do not put them up on their front page any more.
    Another murder – man arrested .

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