Midweek Thread Wednesday 12th August 2020

The coming Friday – 14th of August marks the 75th anniversary of our victory over Japan . Let’s hope that the BBC can mark it with some level of dignity without importing its’ very own Marxist views into proceedings -And that it offers ‘thanks ‘ to those who suffered and died at the hands of the Japanese . There’s always hope .

Bookmark the permalink.

407 Responses to Midweek Thread Wednesday 12th August 2020

  1. Guest Who says:

    “The Independent has selected Beth Ashton as head of audience. Beth is due to join the title later this month from Telegraph.co.uk and will be replacing Ibrahim Salha in the role. She will be responsible for overseeing audience growth at both The Independent and the Indy100.”

    As a personal meet and greet lady at the door when Amol gets his rellies to go check in?


  2. theisland says:

    And in addition …

    57 MPs from all major parties put their names to a letter calling for the Government to enforce a ban on the enormous vessels entering the zones, known as Marine Preservation Areas (MPAs) after Britain severs ties with the EU at the end of the year. The investigation, undertaken by the environmental pressure group Greenpeace, revealed that while ships such as the Dutch-flagged Margiris, as well as numerous Russian craft, spent 2963 hours fishing in 39 protected areas, in the first six months of 2020, supertrawlers had spent 5590 hours fishing in 19 protected areas.


  3. StewGreen says:

    The Grievance Studies Hoax in 2018
    Gender Pay Gap etc. pushed by the BBC


    • Up2snuff says:

      What about post-post-modern thought? We can’t be in the post-modern era for ever. It has to end, sometime.

      I think post-modernism ended in Y2K.


    • StewGreen says:

      There’s audio from today
      but you have to listen carefully cos it is complex
      Mike Graham couldn’t understand it


  4. StewGreen says:

    BBC News – Coronavirus: England death count review reduces UK toll by 5,000
    by putting a cutoff date of 28 days after diagnosis


    • StewGreen says:

      This won’t be a final final count, I’m guessing the total will be later changed again, cos some people did die of Covid after 28 days
      & some people who died under the 28 cutoff did really die of cancer.

      However how the hell did PHE over count by 10% in the first place ?
      My idea is that some civil servants are so anti-Tory they deliberately do stuff like this .


      • Up2snuff says:

        Stew, Docs put their non-pen forefinger in their mouths, then hold it up in the prevailing breeze, then write on the Death Cert whatever comes into their heads. It is no wonder to me the death numbers were wrong.


  5. StewGreen says:

    More on civil servants being so anti-Tory they deliberately do stuff .. A US caller told how the Immigration Dept of the Home Office screwed him around.
    He’s married to a Brit, and has kids here. He filled in forms paid his money and got citizenship.
    Yet still the HO sent officers round to his house to deport him.
    He got his MP to intervene, turned out there was some other form he didn’t know about that he should also have filled in
    So he did that. Meanwhile his mother died in the US, so he wanted to go to the funeral, but HO said you can’t have your passport back while we are processing.
    Another immigration lawyer said phone up and quote this specific law, that you’ll accept deportation, but they’ll have to deport your entire British family with you as well.
    When he did that the HO dropped their claim and sent him his passport.


    • Guest Who says:

      My Dad and Uncle served with distinction during WW2.

      The latter emig… expattifi… fled… ended up in Africa where he married a SA girl of pastiness and had a family.

      All was tickidedyboo until my male cuz hit 18 and was due to end up as the only meringue in the village Army surplus shop of chocolate cookies.

      No probs, we all thought… British decorated dad… just swing a UK passport and so… oh noes… epic obstacles and duly failed by MPs and ministers until we engaged the media outrage.

      That was then. Now the HO and FO appear staffed mainly by BBC cubicle garden close relatives I doubt it has improved.

      On a related note the local ex-SAS guys on FB are talking about lobbing up in a rib on a beach on The Wye and claiming asylum in a Hay 4* hotel with aircon.


      • theisland says:

        The HO and the FCO (and the MoJ) should be staffed entirely and from top to bottom by ex-military/veterans.
        All the current staff should be made to reapply.
        Obviously just get rid of HR entirely – all new selections to be made by a military panel.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Not the BBC – but about VJ Day . My uncle – who passed last year was in a recce outfit of 84RTR in Burma . He was in thr NAAFI one night in 1945 playing cards with his mates . An officer came in and asked how the card game was going – ‘so so ‘ came the reply . The officer then said to the card school – the war s over – the yanks have dropped a big bomb and the jams have surrendered . The card school then carried on playing ….
        ……..my uncles’ outfit landed up doing the partition of India before he got demobbed …. but I never got him to talk about it . ….

        He was very young at the beginning of the War and landed up in ‘dads army ‘ which he said was a ‘tough Nightmare ‘ and hated – hated the BBC version – as the real one was deadly serious ……
        I might have told this story before – here – but it deserves the retelling I reckon …


        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          My great-uncle sadly died on this day in 1945 in Borneo, having been a POW since 1942. Just one day before the end of the war. We must never forget the bestial treatment which the Japanese meted out to British and Commonwealth prisoners.

          My cousin never knew his father, and my great-aunt was a widow until she died 40 years later. You can’t help but look at the shambles of modern Britain and wonder, what was it all for? None of the men who died in WWII would have wanted this Britain.


  6. StewGreen says:

    The 2015 Cologne sex attacks never happened
    according to top expert : Professor James O’Brien of LBC College
    promoter of Carl Beech

    Now Wikipedia page says the German police did a woeful job at convictions, eg none for rape
    Yet “so called sex attacks” is a lie
    Since there were some convictions


    • theisland says:

      I think JoB is a big fan of Starmer and Sad Dick.


    • JamesArthur says:

      The problem with all these people is they forget these are illegal immigrants….and taking a fair share is a pointless argument…how many burglars in JOBs house would be a fair share….bet he says none…well it is same with illegal immigrants


  7. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC: ‘First-time buyers: Four ways the property market ‘will be tougher”


    Have a guess whether one of those four has anything to do with the UK’s rapidly increasing population due to mass immigration?

    And the answer is… nope.

    You’ll need a bigger deposit, saving is going to be harder, Stamp Duty cuts won’t help you and you’re likely to have to commute further to find a job, which will cost you in travel fares.

    The implied solutions all seem to be a bit government-led, because of course supply and demand issues don’t seem to occur to our marxist-minded broadcaster.


    • Sluff says:

      Yes Asl.
      Isn’t it weird?
      Year after year after year after year, we have nett immigration, legal and illegal of around 250,000. That’s say 2 million in the last 8 years alone.

      Yet this has absolutely no bearing whatever on the apparent shortage of housing !!!!

      That’s one for the likes of Einstein.
      There must be a black hole somewhere into a parallel universe.

      Or do I mean ‘hole of colour’ ?

      Perhaps the BBC prog., ‘More or Less’ could explain?
      No, thought not.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Sluff, you try putting that one to ‘More or Less’. I have tried getting them to look at UK population figures (or estimates by the ONS) without success. I reckon the UK population is closer to 75 million than 70 million.

        (The ONS or World Bank have the UK at 68m in 2020)


      • Van Helsing says:


        Mass immigration (legal or not) has imposed a heavy burden on not only housing providers but also the NHS, education (or what passes for it these days), social services, sanitation, the police, the courts, utilities and so on. But, hey, it enriches us. Doesn’t it?


  8. Fedup2 says:

    Telegraph watch
    Some one who works for the Telegraph wants to Scrap Radio 1. The horror . He reckons thar because the listening figures are through the floor it doesn’t have value any more . Naturally the comments support this .

    But I say ‘no’ ! Keep it going . Anything the BBC puts out which people don’t use it just another weapon for us to bleed it to death .

    In the comments it mentions that the Rudyard Kipling ‘Mandalay ‘ poem has been banned for VJ commemorations because some coloured bloke who was hired to read it didn’t like a line …. Enoch Powell’s ‘whip hand ‘ line comes to mind ….


    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, it may mean that the BBC’s pitch for young listeners and viewers and Licence Fee payers is failing.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Ah, that wicked Kipling, who wrote: “When I die I will be a Burman … and I will always walk about with a pretty almond-coloured girl who shall laugh and jest too, as a young maiden ought.”

      Meanwhile, here is the masterly recitation of ‘The Road to Mandalay’ at the 70th VJ Commemmoration by Charles Dance:

      And perhaps the hatey crowd would like to ‘cancel’ Frank Sinatra too, whilst they are at it:


  9. StewGreen says:

    Calgary Mayor Nenshi pays anti-white radicals to paint over beloved city mural
    25 year old hope mural ..to be replaced by one more Virtue Signalling one made by BiPOC artists


  10. StewGreen says:

    Are BBC talking about the Trump video he tweeted mocking Biden ?


  11. Fedup2 says:

    I got distracted because of the IT issue but it seems Fox News is to reappear on the Sky platform at £6 ? A month from the middle of September …. just for those who want to partake …


  12. scribblingscribe says:

    Sky news reporting on the extra ordinary news that Unites Arab Emirates and Israel have reached historic deal to normalize relations. The SKY Middle East correspondent choked in almost celebrating Trump’s remarkable achievement, but was quick to point out that the Palestinian Government may not have been informed in advance of this announcement. Oh dear, how terrible.

    It will be amusing to watch the BBC’s reaction. perhaps like fact Trump was right about hydroxychloroquine, the BBC will just keep quiet about it.


    • tomo says:

      I think you’ll find that solidarity with Palestinians in The “Arabian” Gulf evaporated after some enthusiastically worked for Saddam etc…

      Some people have long memories


  13. tomo says:

    BBC “Business News”

    $500k for a pair of used trainers

    Glad I’m not paying directly for this sh1t


  14. digg says:

    USA soccer team all take the knee before a match and get booed and heckled by the fans.


    Interestingly only the rightish Fox News reported this! Wonder why?

    One black player says he can’t understand it.

    They are so blinded by their cause and rights that they don’t realise how bloody mad this pantomime puke-making crap makes ordinary folk feel. They believe they are the only one’s who deserve rights and feelings and everyone else can just go away

    I expect a lot more of this as the fans return, especially in the UK, I am no footie fan but I can’t wait for the UK soccer fans to get back in the stands and shove it up the “ar****” of all those bubble-dwelling virtue ponces on the pitch.

    I also notice they and the lefty media in general have quietly dropped the phrase “take the knee” and replaced it with simply “kneel” I guess the penny dropped and they realised how subjugating and offensive the first expression is, in fact exactly as it was intended to be by BLM.


    • Dobyns says:


      If one knows non-Woke and legally in America Texans, the booing comes as no surprise.


  15. vlad says:

    So it now transpires Dawn Butler’s car windows were tinted and the police couldn’t see the occupants.

    Can someone sue the crap out of the race-baiting, police-defaming, hate-mongering b*tch?


    • Van Helsing says:


      To what extent were the front windows tinted? There’s a law about that, you see…


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Van, laws don’t apply to certain groups…


      • StewGreen says:

        There is a law that says you can’t be in a car with people outside your bubble
        Butler could have broken that.


  16. digg says:

    Hey Beeboids watch out Fox News is coming for you!

    Can’t wait….


  17. Sluff says:

    Those of us of a certain age remember getting our A level results.
    They were sent out in the post and…….errrr…….that was it.

    In modern wokeland it is BBC headline news with mass analysis (negative, against the government) . All that is missing is a fleet of ambulances to take students off for psychological counselling..

    What an utterly pathetic country we have become.


  18. JamesArthur says:

    Post Sluff, mine were delivered by a one legged donkey..if I was lucky!

    But seriously you would think that the world had ended – unfortunately these kids have been fed a diet of ‘oh you are so good, everyone is winner, you deserve it, oh you are so smart..blah blah blah.. they talk about teaching resilience but without the actual real life ups and downs you can’t develop it

    R4 news tonight the Beeboid interviewing Education Minister brought up private schools (4.2% , not defined exactly of what) advantage and was pushing this as evil and that everyone looking at these figures thinks ..they already have advantage and now more…
    The Minister did a good job of just saying no it isn’t how you are painting it- and pointing out all the other aspects…basically cutting Beeboid dead

    Typical BBC narrative – I wonder how many of their kids go to private school?


  19. Sluff says:

    Over half way through the BBC news, we hear that Israel and the UAE have signed an agreement to normalise relations.

    A pretty excellent result, and announced by the Donald from the White House.

    Can’t help feeling that if Obama had achieved the same ( he never did) it would have been wall to wall headline news.

    Bias by selectivity. Again.


    • Foscari says:

      Sluff -I am surprised that the BBC are even mentioning it.
      Orla Guerrin and Jeremy Bowen and the rest of the
      Israel haters at the BBC must be in a state of despair.
      One thing you wont see on the BBC which was shown
      on ITV news was the latest drone technology where a
      rare, chick vulture whose mother had died was being
      fed by its dad , in which the drone was able with precision
      to drop food next to its nest on an edge of a cliff. If I knew how
      to download the video clip I would. It’s what you may call
      vulture culture. BUT not what you would see on the BBC .
      Especially not from Israel.


    • StewGreen says:

      just pick up a tweets URL
      and post it
      it will auto-embed
      but use www not .mobile


  20. Guest Who says:

    Trouble in Paradise.


    • StewGreen says:

      Both Lewis & Sturgeon ploughed on forward,
      not really explaing the magnitude of their accusation had moved down massively

      #1 A load of Tory’s were busy deleting tweets
      #2 ONE account had deleted ONE tweet due to a spelling mistake

      Sturgeons own initial tweet had had a spelling error
      ; a floating “h”


      • StewGreen says:

        typo : explaining

        Goodhall “Deleted that last tweet *to be completely accurate*”
        … really ? or to cover up the replies pointing out his screw up


      • StewGreen says:

        Goodhall continues his narrative by pretending that the tweet was completely deleted and doesn’t exist
        it is there, but with the spelling corrected


  21. StewGreen says:

    It’s not only the BBC that thinks its main purpose is activism
    Social Purpose @ITVPurpose tweets
    ITV News are the 1st regional newsrooms to be @WeAreALBERT certified.
    As part of our environmental targets, all @itvstudios @ITVSport & all @ITV commissions
    will be certified
    and ITV colleagues will complete #ClimateCrisis training,
    all by the end of 2021.


    That account was created in 2012


    Their banner


  22. Guest Who says:



  23. Cooper_Man says:

    Typical British summer – three fine days and a thunderstorm – but that doesn’t stop the Beeb’s webshite from proclaiming it’s the hottest it’s been since the 60’s. From someone who can just about remember the summer of 1976, the last couple of days have been hot, but they hardly compare to the two weeks plus of 1976 that caused water rationing up and down the land.

    So what do the Beeb go and do – open a HYS – must be nothing else of any importance happening in the world. What a joke the organisation truly is, so glad I refuse to pay for any of it.


    • taffman says:

      If immigration continues at the present pace there will be dire shortages of water in this country in the near future .


  24. taffman says:

    “Coronavirus: England death count review reduces UK toll by 5,000”
    What’s the betting that the count will be ‘reviewed’ again.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Oops, should have stuck my post under yours, taffman. You beat me to it. I really should have noticed before now the vagueness in the defining language.


  25. Guest Who says:

    It is easy to see why the Malmo Moppet is a bbc key expert.


  26. Up2snuff says:

    An important point re Covid-19 deaths, a certain obfuscation has been introduced: no wonder Public Health (England) got their numbers wrong.

    It appears that all coronavirus deaths may be being recorded as Covid-19 deaths. Now, a very elderly person especially, but also anyone younger (esp. w/underlying condition – heart, cancer, stroke victim, etc.) can die from a cold or regular influenza or the other recent animal varieties of coronavirus. All it takes is for the lung infection to develop into pneumonia – and a poor response to a-bs – and it’s ‘Goodnight Vienna’-time.

    Will the BBC, with all their journalists & resources, investigate this? No?

    I thought not.


  27. digg says:

    I just came across a story from June on the BBC that said that UK Newspapers were no longer going to publish their circulation figures because the effect of the pandemic on sales was giving a negative perspective on their performance in an unusual time, i.e. no one going out to the newsagent etc.

    So lets look at the Guardians performance for the last decade to 2019 shall we?

    2019 – 141,160
    2018 – 152,714
    2017 – 156,756
    2016 – 164,163
    2015 – 185,429
    2014 – 207,958
    2013 – 204,440
    2012 – 215,988
    2011 – 279,308
    2010 – 302,285

    God knows what it must look like in 2020! Or perhaps the pandemic has been going on for the last decade?

    Or maybe go woke, go broke in action as 140 of their recently sacked staff found out.

    For 2019 I estimate that around 1 out of every 426 UK residents gets the Guardian yet they still want to tell everyone what to think and how to behave.

    Of course the BBC have no such worries as they can just point to the fact that everyone who owns a TV is a paying customer….by force!

    I can only think of the BBC and the House of Lords as 2 organisations that are cast-iron guaranteed to make a buck come what may.


  28. pugnazious says:

    Zulu Dawn Butler has a beef with the cops….what would that be? They’re institutionally racist…proof…she was stopped in a car by police…the offence?…clearly driving whilst black….thus police are racist. According to Butler…and the BBC.

    Yesterday the deputy commissioner of the Met Police said the officers who stopped MP Dawn Butler in a car did not know she was black because the windows were tinted.

    The Mail reported it, even the Guardian did so…

    ‘Sir Steve House said officers could not have known Butler and the driver of the BMW car were black before they stopped it, because the windows were tinted.’

    A pretty crucial point you might think when someone is claiming they were stopped because they were black.

    The BBC however didn’t think it was relevant and decided to edit out that rather important and relevant point..not a single mention of it in their report nor that the police officer’s concern about ‘trial by social media’ was as a direct result of Butler using social media to lynch the police…one officer in particular whose face she broadcast to the world as she denounced him as a racist.


    So…the BBC misses out a crucial fact that changes the narrative about racism altogether and then avoids the obvious point that Butler used social media to make her fake claims and to vilify the police….an MP trying to whip up hate against the police amogst the ‘black community’….and the BBC doesn’t think that extraordinary? This is the BBC that on any other day denounces social media as the Devil’s work and the font of all fake news…but when handed a story on a plate illustrating perfectly how that can happen it rapidly backs way from holding Butler to account…guess if you’re black you can get away with anything these days….which brings us to Rod Liddle…audio not brilliant….


    • StewGreen says:

      Rod Liddle: The BBC has become too woke
      ..ruining drama by making male characters female etc.

      “OK they made Doctor Who female I can live with that
      but then they shoe-horned anti-Brexit storylines in
      … it has an agenda which has no relevance beyond NW3”.


      • StewGreen says:

        “Hindell tantalised listeners about a new series she had just commissioned. It’s called A Season of Nigerian Literature. Can you wait for autumn? I can’t.
        Hindell had been asked if she was aware that some people thought BBC radio dramas a little metrocentric. A little bit too London. The Nigerian literature stuff was her answer to that accusation. If they ain’t Muswell Hill, they have to be Nigerian, then.”

        \\ woke pronunciation. This has long been a staple of the BBC and an indication of its progressiveness — pronouncing foreign place names in a manner which nobody else on Earth does//


  29. theisland says:

    David talks to Catherine Blaiklock.
    52 minutes.


    • StewGreen says:

      Yep worth watching
      a lot of secrets revealed
      “I asked a black UKIP candidate, why he joined UKIP he told me I worked in the immigration office for years ..all the illegals, they all lie.”

      Blaiklock said “My own brother in-law is Nepali
      we brought him in
      things fell apart he went off to Glasgow
      then overstayed
      He threw away his papers and claimed he was a Tibetan
      ..the Home Office could have done a language test, but they are so inept they didn’t”

      “Farage lost the Peterborough election cos he wouldnt talk about immigration for fear of being called far right”


      • StewGreen says:

        She added that ‘The government does nothing
        #1 They think 4,000 illegals /year is an acceptable number
        #2 They are terrified of LEFTY DEMOS and riots
        That is why thy never act against grooming gangs in the north.

        We spoke to coach drivers who drive the illegals
        they said we know you, you are the far far right nazi groups , you send us death threats.’

        It’s possible that odd nutters do send coach drivers death threats

        .. but I reckon that most will be fake death threats from lefty front groups like HnH trying to build a myth that anyone who opposes open borders is a Jew-hating-nazi.

        She then said
        ‘We ourselves have considered direct action like chaining ourselves to the boats
        but then that would trigger antifa and BLM to come down and start a riot’

        I wonder if we can pay a third country to police the channel ?
        What would Russia do ?
        They’d open fire on immigrant boats
        saying they are a national security threat
        .. and that is true they are, if they are bringing criminals.


      • StewGreen says:

        At the end she @blaiklockBP referenced population replacement
        “Look Lebanon USED TO BE a Christian country,
        then that changed and it went downhill”

        “My husband is black” she said
        “His aunt says she likes to live in Jamaica , cos it’s majority black
        .. you couldn’t say that in Britain”

        “The other issue is about crime and political correctness
        and then the Greatstone Beach, Romney Marsh incident
        a huge black cookout, that she said turned into a riot that
        “4 police were injured
        but they were just completely outnumbered, lost control and only arrested one person”

        She references the Roma gypsy suburb of Sheffield Page Valley full of trouble

        And finished by mentioning
        ..”now some people are giving up the country is already lost”


  30. pugnazious says:

    LOL…how ungrateful….boycotting the BBC that gave her such undiluted support as she spread hate and division…and her an MP remember….


  31. pugnazious says:

    LOL…classic black fragility when everything is seen as racism…..

    And yes Blacks do like fried chicken….but… no it wasn’t invented by black slaves….and so no, whitey didn’t culturally appropriate it….

    Looks like video can’t be embedded so use the link in the brackets….remove brackets…



    • StewGreen says:

      OK the video seems to stereotype white men

      @Pug, technical note
      The embedded tweet video here plays fine on this PC
      .. sometimes a tweet video which already inside a quoted tweet doesn’t

      If you picked up a CLEAN Youtube link
      it would work fine here
      You get that by right clicking over the video when you are actually watching it.
      The long link you quote above is different , it includes a tag which is specific to your own account


  32. vlad says:

    For years now we’ve been told – not least by the BBC – that all those mysterious albino-handed drug dealers, knife stabbers, machete-hackers and gun-shooters on the streets of London couldn’t be named and shamed – and definitely no photos – because they were juvenile offenders (and often re-offenders and re-re-re-re-offenders).

    Yet lo, suddenly it’s ok to identify a 17-year-old boy. I wonder why?




    • StewGreen says:

      @Vlad the article gives the reason
      “Trial judge Mrs Justice Yip ruled the public interest in knowing Price’s identity outweighed concerns over his welfare.”

      AFAIK you name people on charging
      unless they are under 18
      Rocky Marciano Price is now convicted
      we know where he will be on his 18th birthday .. in jail
      So it is not a big deal to name him now , rather than in a few months time.

      \\ Lancashire Telegraph today revealed the teen had lived in Accrington with his family including his parents and five siblings. The teen had tried to claim he didn’t kill Lindsay but was offered a lot of money by an unknown man to get rid of the body.

      Preston Crown Court heard how the 47-year-old teaching assistant was brutally murdered by the teen, who two hours later was seen on CCTV calmly emerging bare-chested with his tracksuit unzipped.//


  33. StewGreen says:

    The other Rod Liddle article slags of PC and BLM zealots

    Activists wish to change the name of a school in north London because it is named after a road which was named after a dairy farmer who had the same name as someone the activists dislike.
    This is the Rhodes Avenue primary school in Wood Green, named after Thomas Rhodes, a great-uncle of Cecil Rhodes who died when Cecil was three. According to the activists, Thomas cannot be ‘disentangled’ from Cecil despite the fact that they are totally different people separated by two generations.

    These genii would like the school to be renamed Oliver Tambo school, after the popular South African murderer and politician.

    A campaign to see the name of Rhodes Avenue Primary School changed to be named after Oliver Tambo, the prominent Anti-apartheid campaigner.
    The second Thomas (1801) was uncle to Cecil Rhodes
    The third Thomas (1826)
    At his death in the land was sold to developers.
    Some 60 years later the School was built at a time in which there was a craze for naming things after Cecil Rhodes to bolster an empire in decline.
    It seems the developers heard of the old connection the the Rhodes family

    FFS the road was there first and the school was named after the Road
    .. says some local guy
    as he points out the activists have no hard evidence for an actual Cecil Rhodes connection.


  34. pugnazious says:

    The BBC doesn’t like racial stereotypes, despite the fact that most are based soundly on fact, however it is constantly telling us every business, organisation and institution needs diversity because such diversity brings wth it a different perspective and way of looking at things because,er, Blacks, Asians, gays and disabled people all have their own culture, experiences and characteristics which they can bring to the table.

    Soooo….maybe Blacks really, really like chicken and such a life experience can provide a radically different insight into a problem and provide a solution that a white guy who doesn’t like chicken just couldn’t dream up!

    Of course the one diversity of thinking that the BBC isn’t interested in is one that challenges their own innate set of prejudices and biases.


    • BRISSLES says:

      The BLM hasn’t got into a tizzy about racial stereotyping , on the advert ‘Just Eat’. The latest one has a variety of blacks in their sterotypical flashy gear dancing around to rap and heavily festooned with glitzy neck chains.

      So, what constitutes racial stereotyping and truthful depiction ?


  35. StewGreen says:

    AB new vid slagging June Sarpong on BAME targets

    She was on the Media Show yesterday
    (AB said R4 Today)
    Her claim is that the BBC seems diverse but that is cos black people are so talented in music/sport etc
    so the on air talent seems more BAME
    but said that the problem is the off camera staff are all white.
    “The BBC is not all Remain voting liberals”

    \\ June Sarpong, was on the board of the remain “Stronger in Europe” campaign. //


    • BRISSLES says:

      The only subject I would trust this woman on is her extensive wig collection. She’s managed to make a career out of nodding her head and gained an MBE into the bargain.


    • taffman says:

      Boy am I glad that I don’t pay for it anymore.


    • taffman says:

      Boy am I glad that I don’t pay for it anymore.


  36. StewGreen says:

    Trump Live press conference
    Operation LeGend success
    The killer of the child who the operation is named has been arrested
    (He didn’t mention that the killer is black that Twitter claims)

    : 22-year-old Ryson B. Ellis charged with the murder of 4-year-old LeGend Taliferro, who was killed while asleep in an apartment June 29.
    \\ #OperationLeGend is a coordinated initiative across law enforcement to address a recent surge in violent crime. //


  37. pugnazious says:

    LOL…..women, apparently, make the best leaders. This is a line that the BBC constantly trots out…oddly in today’s programme there’s absolutely no mention of Maggie Thatcher….someone the BBC has demonised as the most evil leader ever…Hitler and Stalin included.

    Amol Rajan’s little programme today…


    ‘The coronavirus pandemic has encouraged us to rethink our lives. Many people say they want to change the way they live and work, whilst some see this as a moment to radically rethink society. But are our political leaders a help or a hindrance to that change? What sort of leadership do we need in order to recover and rebuild and are there lessons for the UK in the way other world leaders are handling the pandemic and their plans for life after Coronavirus?’

    Of course it was nothing to do with that blurb…it was in fact merely a vehicle cobbled together, a cheap trick, to launch into men, some men in particular…Trump, Boris, Putin…all in the same league according to the BBC.

    Apparently Merkel handled the coronavirus hoax wonderfully well…never mind that it was the in situ and well established German infrastructure, along with good luck, that meant fewer deaths….not Merkel’s management…it would have panned out pretty much the same whoever was in charge. Merkel in fact was on the same path and timeline as Boris with the lockdown.

    Women are more democratic and peace-loving…..such as Eva Peron, Aung San Suu Kyi, Elizabeth I, Boadicea, and of course Merkel who invited millions of Muslims into Europe without letting anyone else having a say….and if they did dare pipe up she denounced them as racists and Nazis.


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      I decided to give that prog’ a chance and listened. They did qualify the success of NZ (small population, distance from others) and pointed to the problems in Belgium, where both PM and Health Sec’ are women.

      Still, other ‘qualifications’ were not made. In the USA, there are 50 states and what Pres. Trump says/does won’t affect what happens in all of them; it’s called federalism, BBC; for homework look it up. Bolsonaro was criticized, predictably, but there are mitigating circumstances in Brazil, e.g. favelhas, poverty and inequality, remote areas, social attitudes to gatherings/parties.

      There were hints about political polarization in the US not helping a united response … but no mention that this didn’t start in 2017: Obama had politicized the CIA, FBI, IRS, education, etc, so one could understand if Republicans were suspicious of the state function, especially as regards health (think of Hillary’s Medicare and then Obamacare later, and broken promises about being able to retain your private insurance if you wanted to).

      There was not a word about Merkel’s terrible decision to open the German borders in 2015 and then her coverup of the resulting rapes, crime and high welfare costs. Hardly a word about China either, a county that is judged by different standards at least as far as Covid19 is concerned if not Hong Kong.

      It wasn’t the worst BBC Radio 4 output I’ve ever heard but then the bar is not set very high. Quite a lot of it was predictable and things were not said which should have been. It was broadly anti-male. Also, Amol Rajan does seem to be on air an awful lot these days.


  38. Jeff says:

    What a lovely country modern, tolerant Britain has become.
    Failure to wear a face muzzle will now result in a fine of £3,200!
    I feel like I’ve awoken in some dystopian horror story.

    Halfwits are applauded for “taking the knee”, while paying homage to a foul, racist and Marxist organisation. Has the world gone mad? How long before this lot supersede the act of Remembrance at the Cenotaph?

    We’re about to face an economic crash that will absolutely devastate our country for generations to come and the hopelessly out of his depth Boris is waffling and bungling just like Nero fiddled.
    It’s long been known that the left have infiltrated all of our major institutions…but I wasn’t expecting them to control the Tories. Clearly they do…

    It’s now becoming abundantly clear that the Covid panic has been used as an excuse to completely reset our western nations. The climate change farce was just the beginning.
    Our way of life is under severe threat…

    Where we enjoyed freedom we now have restrictions. We now have a forced compliance.

    Do you still recognise this country?
    I don’t…


    • The WestWyvern says:

      Spot on Jeff.

      The Tories are not part of the problem, they are now the problem.

      FWIW they shall never receive my vote again.


  39. taffman says:

    “France to be added to UK quarantine countries”
    “People coming to the UK from France and the Netherlands will be forced to quarantine for 14 days from Saturday.”
    No worries. Just jump in a rubber dingy and push off on the English Channel from France . When you get halfway across, tell the friendly Border Farce who will greet you, that you demand asylum. Quick as a jiffy, you will end up in a 4 Star hotel in Blighty where you can enjoy your free quarantine in ‘luxury lockdown’.


  40. AsISeeIt says:

    Allow me to present some interesting juxtapositions by way of newspaper front page items.

    The ‘i’ boasts ‘Four pages’ of ‘games and puzzels…’ whilst the Telegraph has ‘Teachers handed out implausibly high predicted grades, say exams regulator’

    This exam conundrum is really no mystery at all – it’s simply what happened when the teachers got to mark their own work.

    Let’s interject some female celebrity angst which returns to the front pages with Gloria Estefan in the ‘i’ –
    ‘I couldn’t bring myself to sing – I would start crying’ Buck up, luv.

    The Guardian has the manly Phil Collins ‘Best songs ranked’ as we contemplate yet another day in paradise in the ‘i’ : ‘Long Covid, symptoms that won’t go away’ – Yeah, there’s something in the air this year as the Times scolds ‘Wear facemask or you could be fined £3000, public warned’

    There’s further soul searching from the virtual paper as it remembers VJ day : ‘Historians debate US decision to drop atomic bomb. View from Japan’

    The view from my now long-passed former Japanese POW forebear was that the timely dropping of the bomb saved his bacon – but obviously that’s a minor consideration for the modern liberal historian. Forgive and forget, eh?

    But we move on from old conflicts with the Guardian ‘Israel and UAE agree to historic diplomatic ties’ The Telegraph gives credit to the US president where the Guardian can’t bring itself to bury the hatchet ‘Trump brokers peace deal between Israel and UAE’ (Guardian readers don’t want to hear that).

    And we look to new regional conflicts with the FT ‘China flexes muscles near Taiwan’ and ‘Tension between NATO allies deepen’ (That’s Turkey and Greece facing off)

    Dare we add the Telegraph’s ‘France added to travel quarantine list’ as another example of an escalation of a conflict between formerly allied neighbours?


  41. Guest Who says:

    Lurch has already liked it.

    So, banners on every BBC N. America page!

    The chapter about being censured for rampant partiality will be a hoot.


    • Guest Who says:

      Another BBC great flogging a book in the bio…

      Just about everything about this Tweet is perfect, down to the emoji hand of color.

      I for one always looked for ‘Tory Scum’ on the ballot paper, just to draw a willy in the box.


      • theisland says:

        I’m no fan of Gavin Williamson but you only have to look at who is doing all the whingeing to know the story. Better to believe him than a bunch of Labour activists/teachers egged on by Blair’s puppet.

        “Edukayshun, Edukayshun, Edukayshun”


    • StewGreen says:

      Look at that title Its title the opposite of MAGA
      So a political agenda from an “impartial” #BiasedBBC journo
      Look at his prediction before the 2016 election.


  42. Guest Who says:

    OT but… what were the odds?


    • Guest Who says:

      Up side, no trauma from nekkid doctors in the hallowed halls.

      Did Lewis get a First in left leaning?


  43. Guest Who says:



  44. Guest Who says:

    Not a £5Bpa, 20,000 strong media empire.


  45. Guest Who says:

    Another upset youngster on the blower.

    Pro tip: don’t take risks if seeking to avoid upset. If seeking bbc outrage glory… go for it!


    • The WestWyvern says:

      Guest, where do they find them?

      I heard on the wireless a week/ten days ago that HMG were considering France and Holland for CVD19 quarantine measures as cases were on the rise.

      That’s enough time for any responsible person to formulate an action plan.

      Expect the bleeding hearts to be swamping the J Swine show at lunchtime.


    • Deborah says:

      I wonder who the disappointed youth is. He appears to have lots of training in speaking with the BBC, eg lots of use of the hands including hands crossed over the heart for emphasis.


  46. Guest Who says:

    My bet’s on the girl in the yellow.

    Behind now, but looks like a sprinter.


  47. Guest Who says:

    Seems Bubbly’s going bust…

    BBC News

    The coronavirus pandemic has led to plummeting demand – leaving growers and producers at loggerheads.🍾


    Thinking back, the BBC seems ideally placed to step up.


  48. Guest Who says:

    OT, but from the ex BBC DG US propaganda sheet.


    But he fell into a hole.

    Holes are by no measure unprecedented.


  49. BBCNarrativeB says:

    More garbage from BBC Sport. This is the top story.


    It’s about how women aren’t given the same opportunities as men in sport, or are treated negatively.

    One of the stories is headlined with ‘Men are still getting more money and there isn’t any reason for it’. I think there is a perfectly clear and valid reason for it – men’s sports attract more spectators and thus more revenue! But it never crosses the BBC’s or that athlete’s minds. They just want to continue pushing that sexism narrative.

    Basically, all the article does is villainize men as people who hate women, and women as the heroes standing up to this so-called ‘oppression”. But that’s typical of the BBC, trying to show that men (especially white) are losers with no place in modern British society.

    Just remember: there was an edition of Match of the Day where the entire punditry team were women, just so the BBC can continue to shove women’s sports down our throats.


  50. The WestWyvern says:

    Had the World Service keeping me company during the insomnia this morning.

    Soapy Jon Sopel provided some ‘detailed analysis’ on the Israel/UAE normalisation of relations.

    My gods, he was like a spoilt child who had his dummy removed.

    The first piece of the article was decrying the deal as the Palestinians weren’t involved (Hey Jon they don’t negotiate with terrorists)….. the second part alleged it mainly for economic reasons as the two parties have the largest economies in the region, and that it was no way, in a any way considered the start of the middle east peace process.

    Pathetic, utterly. The guy really needs to grow up. He just embarrasses himself.