Midweek Thread Wednesday 12th August 2020

The coming Friday – 14th of August marks the 75th anniversary of our victory over Japan . Let’s hope that the BBC can mark it with some level of dignity without importing its’ very own Marxist views into proceedings -And that it offers ‘thanks ‘ to those who suffered and died at the hands of the Japanese . There’s always hope .

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407 Responses to Midweek Thread Wednesday 12th August 2020

  1. Halifax says:

    The BBC has a new hero and its Kamala Harris a BAME Asian ( as the BBC calls her) She has been picked as Joe Biden running mate and potential US Vice President.
    However a quick shuffty @ 01:00 am shows that the BBC didn’t really rate her performance in the debate for presidential nominee.Expect to hear mountains of praise for this previous “non factor” …..

    Extract below from BBC Oct 19 ……

    Loser: Kamala Harris

    The California senator set a high bar for herself with a strong performance in the first debate. It’s a bar she has consistently failed to meet ever since. She picked a fight with Warren over whether to ban Trump from Twitter, but it’s unclear that’s an issue that many Democrats care about.

    Otherwise, she was a non-factor – especially when compared to Buttigieg. Throughout her campaign, Harris has tried to straddle the gap between the progressives and the moderates. What’s that meant during these debates, however, is that instead of appealing to everyone, she’s made an impression on no-one.


    • JimS says:

      ‘Asian’ is one of those words that doesn’t mean the same to UK and USA audiences, roughly Pakistani versus Chinese/Vietnamese, so perhaps best avoided.

      I wonder what the ‘descendants of slaves’ think of a party that yet again has chosen a ‘black’ person with very short roots in the USA?

      “Hey ma’am, get to the back of the line!”


      • Scroblene says:

        Just seen an online rag pic of a wizened old man, trying to be ‘cool’ with someone young enough to be his granddaughter…

        He’ll be ‘dancing’ the ‘twist’ soon, whoever he is!


    • Guest Who says:

      It is however now all in the past given the expertise of Lurch In Love.

      Just realised when ‘of color’ has to come into play, when the righteous ‘black’ handle is a stretch. Barry, Meghan, Lewis…


  2. Halifax says:

    As we celebrate VJ day this week the BBC will fail to point out that the Japanese still retained 75% by land mass of their conquests using its IMPERIAL army and navy. The Japanese were not cowering in Japan and still had an EMPIRE albeit the country of Japan was desperately short of resources such as aviation fuel.. Such was the size of the Japanese OCCUPATION in SE ASIA that on the Japanese EMPERORS surrender much of the Japanese IMPERALIST army was left in situ to police the SE ASIA lands they had CONQUERED and ENSLAVED from 1933 onwards.

    I have capitalised the words that you wont see in the BBC report. Basically the Japanese Imperial State created by military subjugation an empire in SE Asia and the Chinese mainland and were not the cuddly peoples bombed with a nuclear weapon by the nasty US, a narrative that the BBC will be pushing . Such was the resilience of the Japanese it took 2 atomic bombs to make them come to their senses. If the Japanese emperor hadn’t ordered his military to surrender I think they would still be at it !

    Oh and after the fall of Germany the Russians invaded the Northern Japanese island chain and still occupy some of them to this day…..remind me how much of Japan does the US still occupy?


  3. vlad says:

    Expect much fawning by the BBC over Kamala Harris, Creepy Joe’s new VP.

    Female, Black (sort-of, but not too much), radical Leftie. What’s not to like? She might even help defeat Trump.

    Look, they’re happy already, bless.



    • Scroblene says:

      Glad you made the pic fit the screen Vlad, the little chap working the bird’s puppetry looks like a reporter, only smaller…


    • JamesArthur says:


      Heard R4 yesterday – they couldn’t be any more happy it was all about how Kamala was fantastic and that DT was going to lose…..all negative.

      Funny how nobody is talking about Sweden and covid ….few new cases and no lock-down and no masks…


    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Last three letters wrong


  4. digg says:

    Charlie Stayte on BBC TV morning news just tried his best to get a Labour Labour Education Spokes-lady to commit to opposing ANY plans the government may come up with to deal with English schools exam results.

    You could sense the panic in her voice as she had no real answers or solutions and had to resort to meaningless Labour mantra. Constantly cutting her off if she didn’t come up with anti-government claptrap. As expected she was well versed in the Labour cover-your-arse art of never saying the words Yes or No which seemed to make our Charlie impatient.

    This was a perfect example of the BBC trying to set the political agenda and tone so as to create as much shit as possible for the Government.

    Charlie needs to understand that the BBC are there to report the news, not make it.

    From our National Broadcaster this was In a word Disgusting!


  5. Ian Rushlow says:

    I’m pretty sure there’s wine called Kamala in my local supermarket. I’ve read a review and it says it is “honest, and with integrity”. So, clearly unrelated to this wimmin’ the BBC is going on about it.


  6. AsISeeIt says:

    It’s ladies day, as per usual, on the newspaper front pages. Of course the queen of the princesses, Meghan, grabs centre stage. But we tend to prefer the smaller non-main headline front page items.

    Sarah Carson, deputy arts editor, at the ‘i’ insists on telling us ‘I’m still haunted by the day we were fatshamed in year 5 Maths’ joining the brigade of press females fretting about their non-existant mental hang ups, so as to make themselves sound a bit special.

    While on the arts trail ‘Gauguin without much Gauguin’ is the ‘i’s verdict on the RA’s show – seems he may have painted some pretty pictures but the lefty politics infested modern artworld can’t abide his sexism and colonialism.

    To current French exports – not to be denied – in the Times this morning: ‘We’ll drown if you stop us, migrants warn Britain’

    Some would point out these so-called refugees are mostly fit young blokes but our press would rather focus on the ladies, and so it is with the Times as it tries to surprise us with the biggest non-surprise of the day: ‘Biden makes history by picking black woman as running mate’

    Another non-surprise in the Express which tells it like it is: ‘1m job losses in Lockdown’

    The FT laments the election defeat of their girl ‘Belarus crisis oposition leader flees’ – we eagerly await the FT’s Biden-Harris endorsement but financial interests ought to tread carefully, last time round when Wall Street backed Hilary Clinton their investment went bust.

    Speaking of busts, we’ll gloss over Kelly in the Star who suffered a ‘Boobed staycation’. the only flat thing about her was her car battery.

    The Mirror lionises Stephen Lawrence’s old mum ‘Police are giving up … but for my son I never will’

    But what to do with the chaps these days, like Gauguin, do we cut them out of the picture? The Guardian perhaps has the answer, Rob Delany (another one of these actors and activists) ‘The kindest cut, Rob Delany on his vasectomy’


    • JamesArthur says:

      I am not sure how Kamala qualifies as an African American according to some sources? Her dad was Jamaican and her mother Indian and her dad said he was a descendant of Irish slave owner.
      So she has white Irish, Jamaican and Indian blood – I wasn’t aware any of these qualified her as African American….


  7. taffman says:

    \\Coronavirus: Cases surge as France goes ‘wrong way’//
    At the same time the invaders from France are going the “ wrong way”. A lot of ex-Tory voters are getting very angry with the government at its inability to secure our borders and defend the nation from attack by alien people. Worse, they put them up in 4 star hotels while the nation enters a recession and unemployment is about to rocket. A recipe for disaster.


  8. Ian Rushlow says:

    One of the BBC’s favourite topics is menstruation, which it alternates between articles about black wimmin’s hair and grossly obese wimmin as part of its mission to promote die-versity and somehow increase the already inflated salaries of it’s medicocre female newsreaders. The latest installment is disguised as an important article in the Sports section. Note: parental guidance advised.


  9. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    The BBC doesn’t present news it presents an agenda that is best described as a war against white men, Christianity, England and Britain – its history, its culture, its people. The BBC is irredeemable, it needs to be dismantled, its public funding removed, and the “British” removed from its title.

    Most of this started in the Universities, where left-wing feminists and Marxists took over most of the non-science departments following the expansion to the university system from the sixties onwards and producing graduates with a mission to produce change in the wider society. It has since infected the school system, our media, our state institutions and the political system.


    • digg says:

      All we need is a government that can see this and bite back but Boris is not that. I really thought he was at first but he is sold out like the whole bloody lot. He has Churchill’s manner but not his balls.


  10. Peter Sausages says:

    Wouldn’t it be joyous if old Trumpy wins the election, the shock on the beeboids faces would be hilarious, just like when Boris destroyed Labour.


  11. Guest Who says:



  12. Guest Who says:

    Ben, Jerry… life is a rocky road.


    • Fedup2 says:

      To repeat from the previous thread – Ben and Jerry UK is part of Unilever – which more or less has the ice cream market and does cleaning stuff and other food products ( Hellmans – Colman’s ) so if you don’t agree with their word politics – but other stuff – own brand is usually cheaper and about the same .


  13. Guest Who says:

    Are you an employer hiring on the basis of leftist wibble?

    Let Naga know.


  14. G says:

    The police are shelving the Steven Lawrence case as there has been no developments the police can act on.
    Katya Adler on Toady interviews (Dr?) Neville Lawrence the still (tearful) father of Steven Lawrence. Still whingeing about the police who he still believes is institutionally racist. He just wants “Justice” for black people.
    “Justice” as I understand it in his case = allow black people to follow their illegal instincts without retribution and “Justice”, in the case of Steven would involve the incarceration of the three remaining who have not been prosecuted, without a trial. So, Dr Neville’s “Justice” will only be achieved if the police/CPS ignore the need for evidence and just incarcerate the three remaining suspect without a trial.

    What’s with this ‘Dr’ anyway? His ex wife is a Dame. These doubtless honorary awards didn’t shut the two up as no doubt it was thought it would. The expression, “trinkets to the natives” seems most appropriate.

    There is only a few reasons where an honorary Doctorate can be used. I don’t think a BBC interview is one of them.


  15. Sluff says:

    A level results are imminent.

    The BBC are absolutely obsessing, dredging up every conceivable source they can to state how unfair it’s all going to be.

    But here’s the thing. We know that. Life isn’t fair. Get over it.

    At 0710 Toady ‘interviewed’ the Labour education minister. She advocated some undefined but massive appeals process. That was it. The interviewer let her use the StrawMan technique several times and never challenged.

    So the obvious follow up question is this. ‘What alternative system would be better, given all the circumstances’?

    And on that the totally useless BBC have absolutely nothing to offer at all.


  16. Guest Who says:

    Notable also for the sheer number of heretofore unknown, and doubtless highly paid members of bbc staff adding their voices.



  17. Fedup2 says:

    Not the BBC
    But for anyone interested in how VJ day came about – there is an excellent docimentary by mark felton productions on Youtube called “The British Atomic Attack “ – which describes how the RAF could have dropped the Bomb using Lancasters ….


  18. Foscari says:

    Many of us ridicule the very name of the BBC, and for good
    reason.BUT I wonder if the BBC even really wants to be
    called the BBC ? Like Prof Brian Cox one of the BBC’S pin
    up boys , who ticks most of the boxes ,expect two of them.
    The name BRITISH is an anathema to them.
    Go on BBC do what you really want . Change your name to
    the World broadcasting corporation. Or the European broadcasting corporation. Or the Diversity broadcasting
    corporation. The word British in the context of your
    presentation and programming is nothing more than an oxymoron.


  19. Guest Who says:

    If BBC Newsbeat ever had actual news, it would look like a miracle.


    Crowdfunders have raised £100,000 to erect a statue of a footballer who was dropped from the England team in 1925 when selectors discovered he was black


  20. Guest Who says:

    Yes. It is the bbc. And a charity.


  21. Guest Who says:

    They have opted to phrase it as a question. Sure sign.

    Totally worth their combined salary and air miles.


  22. Guest Who says:

    Asobe forgets the Days of Hugs at W1A.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Amongst many things Unilever makes Vaseline – I reckon someone in the twitter department is going to need a lot of it ….


  23. NCBBC says:

    Looking at the BBC Home page. News of A-level “results”. That ois estimate of what the results might have been.

    What struck me is that BBC photos show only girls . No photograph of a boy waiting. Nothing.

    This is symptomatic of the level of discrimination boys have been subjected for the last three decades. Not just in the BBC but in universities too.


  24. NCBBC says:

    Looking at the BBC Home page. News of A-level “results”. That is, estimate of what the results might have been.

    What struck me is that BBC photos show only girls . No photograph of a boy waiting. Nothing.

    This is symptomatic of the level of discrimination boys have been subjected for the last three decades. Not just in the BBC but in universities too.


  25. Thoughtful says:

    First ? Wow!


  26. Thoughtful says:

    37 comments which for some reason I can’t see !


  27. NCBBC says:

    Cant see the comments.


  28. G.W.F. says:

    Can’t see any posts. Something not working.


  29. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    All comments starting from “Midweek Thread 29 July 2020” appear to have vanished. Hopefully they will reappear rather than being permanently lost.


  30. NCBBC says:

    “The importance of being female”


    Th marginalisation of men and boys are is now full bore. God help us if we get into trouble, for without men, our future is bondage.


  31. G says:

    I’m submitting this ‘blind’ because for some reason I can access the site but what I reach is just, “41 Responses to Midweek Thread Wednesday 12th August 2020
    Leave a Reply”
    I cannot see or open any comments. Same on ‘Start the week’.
    Rebooted to no avail.

    Any help?


  32. NCBBC says:

    “The importance of being female”


    The marginalisation of men and boys is now full bore. God help us if we get into trouble, for without men, our future is bondage.


  33. Fedup2 says:

    I’m not sure what’s happened folks – the comments are there in the background – I’ve tried to re ‘authorise ‘ them – including two of my own – but they are still not turning up …. let’s see if we can do more tricks ….


  34. Concrete sea says:

    Beeb headline from yesterday : ‘English Channel migrants: Where they’re from and what they’re escaping’
    Then a list follows Eritrea, Chad, Sudan Egypt and Iraq, only the latter two relatively safe countries. Thus the reader can understand why these illegals, sorry migrants are escaping. Probably understandable and no doubt designed to elicit a good measure of sympathy.
    Where the Beeb invented this list from I have no idea. What about the following:-
    Iran, Albania, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq and the only ‘unsafe’ country Somalia. I believe the second list is the more accurate, but there you go, only what you would expect from the skewed Beeb.


  35. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – really?

    Much made of Kamala Harris but the BBC are not sure whether to like her or not. (Think they might have prefered Rashida Tlaib as Joe Biden’s ‘running mate’. I wonder why?) I’m greeted both on TOADY and the w-s by “Her steadiness and aggression are campaign assets, but what of her ‘cop’ reputation and shifting values?”

    Shifting values? On the Left? Goodness, gracious! What ever next?

    Have the BBC never encountered Keir Starmer, Jeremy Corbyn, Ed Milliband, and countless numbers from the Labour Party they led? Then there’s Anna Soubry who jumped firmly from Conservatism into socialism and another ‘ism’ beginning with the letter ‘F’ and a Liberal Party leader (I’ve actually forgotten her name – definitely gone and forgotten) who, as Leader, wished to be elected under our democratic system so that she could abolish it? She was definitely an ‘ist’ beginning with the letter ‘F’.


  36. Rufus McDufus says:

    New comments should appear in under this open thread, so keep commenting. I’ll get the older comments back ASAP.


  37. Guest Who says:

    Most read BBC ‘news’, if for varying reasons.

    When it comes to America and the US BS under American Booty himself, this usually means RTs or copy and pastes of CNN, The Hill, etc.

    Hence they, and others miss others…. by ignorance or design.




    Hoping to hear more ‘analysis’ too of the Claire i caught earlier… ‘… and she’s a woman”.

    The BBC Pantone committee is still meeting in a sweaty Frankie Howerd to decide how ‘of color’ she can be deemed.


  38. Deborah says:

    Not BBC but I am wondering how we are ever going to recover from this ruddy virus. A friend who is very senior in a large health authority tells me that they have to treat every patient as though they have the virus, to such an extent that patient appointments have to be 15 minutes apart for fear two patients arrive together, stand too close and the virus is passed. If I go to my local shop and another customer arrives at the same time, one stands back and lets the other get 2 metres inside before daring to step inside themselves. That is people sort it out themselves with common sense. The NHS appears to have need of policies for everything including how to stop people breathing in at the same time.

    My friend the stresses everything about this virus is unknown. The NHS guidelines seem to be based on the fact that some virus can live for 3 days on a surface. What she didn’t know whether there would be enough 3 days later to make you ill (I suppose it depends how much was there in the first place). But as an outside, I see an NHS frozen with fear, where it is better to treat no one so as to avoid one coved death, and if that means 100 deaths from other things, so be it.
    To bring it to the BBC, it may be they are living in a coved bubble, and desperately need an outsider to bring sense just as though those in the BBC need an outsider to tell them their BAME issues, their climate change and support for new people on our shores has gone too far.


  39. StewGreen says:

    OK I can see posts from upto 4 hours ago with Inoreader
    here’s an example
    I am logged in Inoreader
    BTW Today is 12th August
    but yesterday’s posts seem to marked as August 10th, which is the wrong day for them


    That comes from a folder I subscribed to using Inoreaders subscription button


  40. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    The problem with the BBC is that they are so focused on pushing their own agenda, so focused on ignoring or downplaying news that doesn’t fit their own agenda, and so focused on twisting the narrative, that all proper and relevant news is being ignored or lacks appropriate journalistic attention.

    With regard to Coronavirus, the BBC are only interested in Coronavirus in as much as how it can be used to push their own agenda. So the fact that deaths due to Coronavirus is double for white elderly men compared to elderly women is being completely ignored.

    And look how the BBC responded to concerns associated with mass gatherings in the wake of the death of Floyd George. The BBC came out in support of mass gatherings if it was for Black Lives Matter, saying the oppression of Black people and BAMES was a pandemic that was worse than Coronavirus.

    So when you examine the BBC output closely you come to realise it is more or less nothing but bullshite.


    • The General says:

      BBC (and SKY) are both out of sync with current opinion a fact which has become obvious to them not only by the Referendum and General Election results but also by the tenor of the responses expresses by their audiences on their ‘Comments’ sections below each article. So how did they react ? Did they alter their editorial perspective to accommodate and better reflect the views of their viewers/listeners ?
      NO they both decided to omit the ‘Comments’ facility.
      Says it all I suggest. Companies evaluate their performance by feedback from their customers but not it seems the Media companies…..because they know better !!!!!


  41. Guest Who says:

    So ordered.

    With luck BS, Lewis and alumni like Mason, Esler, etc will too.

    And still see their tv show generate fewer viewers than a magazine on voluntary sub gets readers.

    How’s Jo’OBsworth’s ratings vs…. dead air?

    He could always get Champion Ash and Femi back in.


    • john in cheshire says:

      So, the wee JO’bby thinks he’s a match for Mr Neil.

      That’s funny in itself.

      The most effective way to deal with the likes of the wee JO’bby is to ignore him.


  42. Guest Who says:

    Straight from the beaches of Avon and Somerset to bristol registry it is…


  43. StewGreen says:

    For those catching up here’s a quickshot from Inoreader of recent posts



  44. StewGreen says:

    Copied over from IT thread
    @NCBBC AT 12:28 PM
    Looking at the BBC Home page. News of A-level “results”.
    That is estimate of what the results might have been.
    What struck me is that BBC photos show only girls .
    No photograph of a boy waiting. Nothing.

    This is symptomatic of the level of discrimination boys have been subjected for the last three decades.
    Starting at school from feminist teachers, what can only be categorised as child abuse.

    Not just in the BBC but in universities too.

    “The importance of being female”

    The marginalisation of men and boys is now full bore.
    Poor young male children, do not know why they are held in such contempt.
    God help us if we get into trouble, for without men, our future is bondage.


    • StewGreen says:

      BTW this is a pic
      No white males .. no big focus on the exams



    • R P McMurphy says:

      They did interview a selection of entitled ones awaiting A level results, there was one actual white female complaining her chosen career, make up artist will not happen, but what tickled me or rather p*ssed me off was the obvious son of an immigrant complaining that the job market is now so saturated he fears he may not get the job he wants in law. The bloody irony.


  45. Dobyns says:

    An Inconvenient Truth or

    Somehow I Don’t Think the bBc Will Cover This One

    From one of my American friends

    Not exactly the most “Woke” family history. According to this research report, Kamala Harris’ ancestor Hamilton Brown owned seven plantations in Jamaica in 1817. He had more than 200 slaves whose first names are listed here.




  46. StewGreen says:

    Conspiracy theory stuff
    There is a true world
    but mostly we have to accept “we don’t know” as the explanation for most situations
    – Then media push narratives at at us which seem to plug the gaps
    .. but half of that seem to be BS
    – Then conspiracy theory websites turn up , point our and that the media are full of BS, but then provide magic simple explanations of it’s 5G and a Bill Gates vaccine conspiracy
    . OK real conspiracies exist, but mostly those shouting conspiracy are making huge claims , with only tiny evidence.
    Well that amounts to gaslighting as it tells me my own view of the world with all its gaps is false, cos somehow Bill gates is behind everything.

    Stuff kept showing up in my Twitter Feed
    Yesterday Internet radio’s Richie Allen was busy pushing Bill Gates conspiracy idea.
    Then on Bitchute : An American guy “The Dollar Vigilante” was waffling on and then says “The old cinco”
    which must be a reference to 5G conspiracy, done a cryptic way to keep YouTube software from banning his video.
    Well he is free to ditch YouTube and only use Bitchute and speak directly.


  47. StewGreen says:

    AB just put a 30 second video in repsonse to the BBC BBC’s pandemic sex article
    WE are paying for this !


  48. StewGreen says:

    4:30pm Radio4 more banging on about their pseudo diversity
    – Panel: June Sarpong, BBC’s Director of Creative Diversity
    and Matthew Syed, Sunday Times columnist and author of Rebel Ideas: The Power of Diverse Thinking.

    Presenter: Amol Rajan


    • gb123 says:

      Why does the BBC spend so much money on these ‘initiatives’?
      The people seem to love the sound of their own voices and think they sound intellectual. The reality is they sound like versions of Harry Enfield’s Nice but Dim.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Stew – Amol Rajan, that fast-talking King of Bling? You (may have) missed a classic recently when Amol got together with Clive Myrie to express outrage that whitey (presumably) had dared to force BLM from the top of the news agenda on a brief occasion.
      Up to that point I had Clive down as a conservative appearing newsreader of no particular opinion, but I should have known better (MSM). Our Amol got him really fired up: the diversity issue is big on his agenda, unsurprising really, seeing as he presents The Media show, and the media, by and large, is now about as woke as you can get.
      I predicted here some days ago that Kamala would be Biden’s ‘running mate’, and I feel equally confident that Amol is going to be very excited about KH on the airwaves pretty soon. There are good reasons for that expectation…
      Why do they have to push their ‘diversity’ agenda from London only, I wonder? Why not have a go in Lagos or Lahore? Surely those places are as deserving of becoming ‘diverse’ as our capital city, and greatly in need of diversification? Surely the Amols of this world should relish the opportunity of somewhere fresh to sprout the propaganda that so enthuses them? (If you can call Lagos and Lahore fresh, that is).
      We’ve heard it all before (endlessly).


    • Fedup2 says:

      I’ve got high hopes for June – the first coloured chairman woman of the BBC … Can’t wait ….


      • BRISSLES says:

        My dog has more intelligence than this woman. (as was pointed out in the Mail this week)