Weekend Thread 25 July 2020

The BBC loves a statistic . On Twitter a bbc employee crowed that on average 438 million non UK people visit BBC News each week . And the instant response ? But they don’t have to pay for the monster ….if they want it – let them pay for it – don’t make the british taxpayer fund it through threats and prosecution .

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2020/global-reach

And – of the 1495 people employed by The Guardian – the BBC in print 180 are to be fired .

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364 Responses to Weekend Thread 25 July 2020

  1. Venutius says:

    1st 😉

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53510838

    Jo Stevens has urged Ofcom to review the licence of Russian news agency RT in the light of “troubling revelations” in the Russia report, published this week.

    Labour is ‘committed to a free press and media plurality, but RT is the opposite of that’. She further cited disinformation, distortion and propaganda. 😂 She actually said that!

    Ok, notwithstanding the irony that Jeremy Corbyn appeared on RT before the last election, I note that Jo Stevens and the Labour Party are totally silent on the widespread disinformation, evidenced bias and propaganda spewed forth every day from the BBC.

    Their coverage of the Brexit and BLM protests was a disgrace.

    I say thank god for RT. At least its some sort of antidote to the BBC and all the other sterile ‘kid glove’ Broadcast British Media.

    I also note that after resigning as shadow Welsh Labour Secretary in 2017, Jo Stevens said, ‘I believe that leaving the EU is a terrible mistake. I cannot reconcile my overwhelming view that to endorse the step that will make exit inevitable, is wrong’. She then voted not to trigger Article 50.

    Don’t you just love the system that elevates people like Ms Stevens to positions of influence and power within our nation.

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  2. StewGreen says:

    Catchup links to last posts on previous thread
    page 4 started 9:25am Friday
    page 3 started 3pm Thursday …… page 2

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Traveller boys found not guilty of murder after dragging Essex policeman to his death behind their van.

    Found guilty of manslaughter.
    I don’t know the explanation why.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      Bring back capital punishment.
      And purge the CPS and judiciary of all the Common Purpose graduates and all the other versions of Communists.

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      • Oldspeaker says:

        Corporal too John, judicious use of which could well alter a potential career criminals direction early on.

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    • G says:

      The court found they simply did not know they were dragging the officer behind.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        What the hell were the jury thinking ? its now reported that the defendants were hugging and kissing each other when the verdict was announced. Jesus. And with the Appeal Court sanctioning the return of the Begum woman, we’re all going to hell in a handcart and no mistake.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Bris
          Key evidence was excluded – the telegraph report infers the jury was nobbled – one juror was thrown off- security had to be increased . It will be tricky for the judge to put the size of sentence in next week to properly reflect what the vermin did . Sad they cant be hanged – whatever age ….

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        • tarien says:

          Yes of course Brissles how can anyone not agree-A most worrying indictment against the Justice of our British Courts-personally and if it were possible the Judge should have overruled the Jury’s verdict. It was a pre-meditated act of murder, nothing less should survice. Capital Punishment should be re-introduced, but will the wets allow such an alteration to the present punishment farce?

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Because for murder the prosecution has to prove ‘malice aforethought! i.e. there was an intention to kill someone. Not easy to prove as it was a case of what the pikies knew at the time leading up to the death.

      The prosecution failed to convince the jury that there was an intention to kill therefore the lower manslaughter charge was proven.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Thoughtful – there was evidence of attempts to interfere with the jury – one member of the jury was discharged at summing up because of her behaviour in the court toward the defendants leaving 11 to decide .the mens rea of murder v manslaughter here is a bit of a side show – however – the QC for at least one defendant obviously has a promising career £££££ due to his defence of his client being above the perversion of justice ….
        Remember – this was a copper doing his job – killed for trying to save someone’s property . The animals will be out in 3 years – be in a cat c prison and have their lives .

        He is dead .his end was not a ‘good ‘ one . His wife , family and friends have their own sentence – so don’t go the prosecution failed to convince the jury ….’ because that – thoughtful – is crap .

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Just an update – an MP has referred this to the AG , Lord Blunkett has called for a retrial – and a former Met Commissioner – now Peer has expressed the kind of disquiet I’ve written about .

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        • tarien says:

          It will be a blight on the Justice system that will not bode well for future pre-meditated acts of murder-these loathsome individuals committed murder which is quite obvious now to see. Just hope that this young pretty wife will be able over time, the great healer, to re-engage with her future and find kindness and love to help fulfil her life.

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      • Nibor says:

        Malice Aforethought does not mean taking an affirmative action to kill someone , but taking action or inaction that leads to an unlawful death .
        To take an extreme example
        A blind woman wakes up and takes a walk on her balcony every morning . You know this . You are given the contract to replace the balcony . So you have the balcony demolished to make way way for a new one , without informing the blind person . Because you don’t care . No pecuniary interest , you just don’t care .
        That would be murder .
        Those Diddycoys dragged that policeman without a care , whether he lived or died . They are murderers .

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        • G says:

          Nibor,
          Things have changed since my time studying law. The dilemma for the judge is instructing the Jury as to how to consider the knotty subject of, “Intention” and to be able to distinguish that in murder from the lesser, “Recklessness”. Both known as the ‘Mens Rea’ – the mental element of a crime.
          As I see it, the current test for mens rea for murder is still R v Nedick (1986) and for recklessness, R v G & R (2003). The jury direction for both. In Nedick – “the jury should be directed that they are not entitled to infer the necessary intention, unless they feel sure that death or serious bodily harm was a virtual certainty (barring some unforeseen intervention) as a result of the defendant’s actions and that the defendant appreciated that such was the case.”
          And in R v G & R – “”A person acts recklessly within the meaning of section 1 of the Criminal Damage Act 1971 with respect to –

          (i) a circumstance when he is aware of a risk that it exists or will exist;

          (ii) a result when he is aware of a risk that it will occur;

          and it is, in the circumstances known to him, unreasonable to take the risk.”
          On the basis of the known judgement, this will have been the direction given to (and accepted by), the jury.

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    • Nibor says:

      I wonder if the Constabulary will be so keen on flying flags and endorsing Gypsies and Travellers Month later on ?

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      • Concrete sea says:

        Nibor , I very much regret they will. A few years ago two officers from a neighbouring constabulary I used to work for (hurrah no longer do) organised a coffee morning for staff who were connected to or felt they had some connection to GRT (Gypsy Romany Travellers) to discuss whether they were affected by this. Zero to my knowledge.
        Unfortunately many Constabularies waste time and (your) money on running around peddling this sort of rubbish to staff when they could be doing I dunno maybe some Police type work, like supporting their overworked colleagues on the front line, perhaps catching burglars or maybe helping an old lady cross the road (provided no one is offended).
        The amount of oficers in non front line roles where they are most needed is dangerously low and a few more might just prevent this sort of tragedy occurring.
        All a clever ploy by management, who can then go cap in hand to the Government and say ‘Look we need more officers’, who on arrival will then be employed number crunching, doing diversity stuff or providing support for pregnant colleagues etc etc.

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  4. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – Sting in the tale

    Long item on the death of Paulette Williams, a prime mover in the campaign against Windrush deportations who, sadly, has died in her sleep while still relatively young. A lengthy contribution from someone who knew her but we are not told by the BBC why the Home Office wanted to deport her. The friend does not tell us either. The compensation word was mentioned at the tail end of the interview. Interestingly, there is nothing on the BBC web-site at present which is a little strange. A double sting in the tale?

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  5. StewGreen says:

    Cardiff news : https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/news/uk/statue-of-sadistic-slave-owner-boarded-up-in-cardiff/
    Sir Thomas was the most senior officer killed at the Battle of Waterloo,
    but was also known to have used the slave trade to build up his considerable fortune, as well as having a dozen slaves executed during his “highly brutal” regime as governor of Trinidad during colonial rule.
    The statue of Sir Thomas Picton has stood in Cardiff City Hall since 1916 (Cardiff Council)
    Cardiff’s first black mayor Dan De’Ath called for the statue of the “sadistic 19th Century slave-owner” to be removed in the aftermath of the statue of slave trader Edward Colston being toppled in Bristol during a Black Lives Matter march in June.

    The council had a vote
    and it’s been boarded up prior to removal.

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  6. BRISSLES says:

    I’m a great user of Etsy, the online market for sellers of their crafting. Now they are promoting this……..

    Black-Owned Shops
    Discover One-of-a-Kind Creations
    From Black Sellers In Our Community

    Ok to specifically advertise Black vendors, but you try promoting yourself as White when marketing your house for sale !

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Brissles, they didn’t define black? A couple of hundred years ago, even one hundred years ago, in London and elsewhere ‘Black sellers’ would mean white people selling soot, which was known, on its own, as ‘black’. Surely Etsy should use the BAME word which covers Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis, Africans, etc.?

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      • JamesArthur says:

        Up2

        You are so not ‘de rigeur’ one doesn’t use BAME old boy it is now BIPOC. The Asian chappies have had their chips…or it would be BALM.. 🙂

        On a serious note – this is just another case of some white folks thinking Black crafters need their help to sell products…which, if they are good products, they don’t.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          JA, am guessing (ooh – the brainache!): Black & Immigrant People of Colour? Can’t do BALM – too much, the friction created by rubbing my two cells together has caused my head to overheat.

          On a slight diversion – I wonder if Greta knows how valuable a by-product of burning wood and coal once was? Apart from shoe polish and use by artiists, I seem to recall that it was used in the enamelling trade that was a staple business of the Lea Valley ….. along with gunpowder.

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    • StewGreen says:

      It is illegal to promote goods based on the skin colour of the owner
      Yet Etsy have been doing this since at least Feb 13th
      There are hundreds of tweets to the black only page.
      I guess it is US based operation

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  7. Fedup2 says:

    No doubt the Equalities Commission have looked away if formally told about such nonsense .
    Where i live a ‘Caribbean restaurant ‘ opens up about each 3 months and lasts that long . Scam ? Drug dealing ? I am supposed to care ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      It seems such racist shopping is thought OK in the uSA
      but a number of UK media also promote the idea

      Express June 3 : Black-owned businesses: How to find black owned businesses in your area
      BLACK LIVES MATTER is an international human rights movement campaigning against systemic racism towards black people, but how can you support black businesses?
      By KAISHA LANGTON

      Indy June 20th “Shopping from black-owned businesses is a vote for equality with our wallets”
      https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/black-lives-matter-british-business-hair-care-loreal-diversity-equality-a9575736.html
      By Kaislash Ismail (probably the same author as above ?)

      Elle and other beauty mags also pile in

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    • StewGreen says:

      Are you really suggesting that high cashflow businesses like takeaways are used to launder money ?
      …no never.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Round my way it is Turkish barber shops. They seem to spring up like mushrooms overnight. There are four within a mile of me.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Rob – I’d forgotten the Jonnie Turk barber shops – they always have chaps in black with not much hair hanging around outside – in my bit of Eastern Londonistan ….

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  8. StewGreen says:

    Also newspaper like the Indy ran stories June 5/6 saying
    “Uber Eats offers free delivery for black-owned restaurants”

    However the official UberEats account now @UberUK has never tweeted that
    Indeed the Indy article text makes it clear it’s only US/Canada

    Uber help page : Uber Eats is launching an in-app promotion for Black-owned independent restaurants in select cities in the United States and Canada.
    To make it as easy as possible for Uber Eats users to support their favorite Black-owned businesses on the app, customers will receive a $0 Delivery Fee. This offer does not apply to franchise restaurants.

    .. Again it would be clearly against UK equality laws to favour businesses by skin colour

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  9. StewGreen says:

    Herd immunity .. OK it would take while to get general her immunity
    but maybe certain workspots already have herd immunity
    If you have 100 people in a hospital dept or meat factory and their has been an outbreak
    Odds on them with tough T-cells didn’t get it
    Those vulnerable got it and now afterwards have some heard immunity.
    In a few months time an infected outside person might be coughing all over the department, but most people will be OK .
    except say someone who gets such a heavy viral load that it overwhelms their tough T-cell system.

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  10. Fedup2 says:

    Not the BBC – but Reuters reports on a chap who walked nude down Oxford Streer wearing nothing but a face mask over his chap.

    It doesnt say how he managed to keep it in place … im standing nude in front of the full length mirror but cant get the hang of it ….

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Fedup.
      One of those Plague Doctor masks?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Blimey EG boggling of the mind going on … I think Reuters only reported it because one of their staff got a snap…

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  11. G.W.F. says:

    The people’s Prime Minister is to tell us what we can and cannot eat.

    From the state broadcaster
    ‘The prime minister is set to announce new measures to curb obesity next week, and they are expected to include a ban on TV junk food adverts before 21:00.

    It comes amid growing evidence people who are overweight or obese are at greater risk from coronavirus.

    The measures are yet to be finalised but are also likely to include a ban on online ads for unhealthy foods, and limits on in-store promotions.’
    ——————————————————
    Anyone notice how Boris and the socialist BBC share the belief that Government must manage all aspects of the people’s life.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53522492

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      BoJo’s much vaunted “libertarianism” didn’t last very long did it? Looks like Theresa May has had the last laugh after all.

      As the saying goes, whoever you vote for, the government always gets in.

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      The prime minister is set to announce new measures to curb obesity next week … It comes amid growing evidence people who are overweight or obese are at greater risk from coronavirus.”

      New research from the universities also show that people not woke enough are also at greater risk from coronavirus. As a result the Prime Minister will announce a new target for sending everyone to university. Currently only 50% of school leavers go to university,

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      • Scroblene says:

        That’s exactly what the slitherine Blair did, to keep kids off the unemployment stats, and he also twisted the knife and made their parents pay for the very doubtful ‘privilege’!

        All extra costs were stolen from the pension pots of privately funded citizens when the idiot Brown started waving his chubby elbows around, (not from the gold-plated-inflation-proofed public sector wallies), and thus the story continues as Boris refuses to beat the BBC around the head and make them cancel the TV tax on over 75s.

        So parents of my generation (me and Senora O’Blene), born late forties), have been continually stumping up to pay for more and more dubious stuff at the whim of governments.

        As Rob in Cheshire succinctly says above, “As the saying goes, whoever you vote for, the government always gets in”!

        Too bloody right!

        Caliphate, also above, delightfully suggests that wokes, are better at not getting Covid 19 than normal citizens. This is down to several factors: –

        1) The ‘degree’ in Vegan Transgender Studies isn’t actually worth a bean. Only one kid got a job, and that was on The Guardian, (zero hours contract) before he/she/it was made redundant! He/she/it went out on a ‘rave’ because he/she/it was ‘depressed’ and was breathed on – several times.

        2) The parents of the wokes have got fed up (Not you2 Sir), with giving even more money to layabouts and their various steps, so they kick them out of bed just at the time when the virus is really swirling around. This occurs just before lunch! (see BBC ‘report’ on timing – if you can’t find one, never mind, they’ll make it up as usual).

        3) John Redwood has decreed that his constituency, Wokingham, will change it’s name to ‘Scroblantis’, https://scroblene-webley-bullock.blogspot.com/2009/12/scroblantis-new-discovery.html?m=0 after a very important issue was raised some years ago!

        (I think the good people here, should understand that this last item isn’t factually true, and has nothing to do with illness, but was written at a time when the country was facing even more dire consequences from the shenanigans of two, shady, ‘politicians’ mentioned earlier. If counselling is required, then this is available in Flat 3, ‘The Bonkers’, EC1; book to make an appointment, and you’ll also have your temperature taken, before and after).

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Rejected, “part factual” material for a BBC comedy, see below:

      The Prime Minister is set to announce new measures to curb ageing next week, and they are expected to include a ban on Wiltshire Farm Foods Hearty Meals before bed time. It comes amid growing evidence people who are overage or old are at greater risk from coronavirus.

      The measures are yet to be finalised but are also likely to include the replacement of unhealthy foods in care homes with a whole grain meatless diet. The Fuehrer will also show graphic accounts of the slaughter of animals in an effort to make the old shun meat, as well as encourage the old to quit smoking by offering a gold watch to anyone able to break the habit.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Bit sad when Tories want to ban something else – at least with labour we know they want to control every part of every ones lives and make everyone state dependant – but token nonsense like advertising bans ? Just watch where the kids go at lunchtime ( in peace time ). If they shut every fast food venue within mile of any school they still travel that extra bit …..free bus travel didn’t help much on the calorie burn front either …
      … perhaps the real plan is to get life expectancy coming down again so the state doesn’t have to waste money keeping people over 40 alive ( bit tongue in cheek cos I might be 40 soon .. or 50… or more … ).

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    • JimS says:

      A first step to countering obesity would be to let us get back to living normally, oh and to cut out the depressing output from the BBC!

      I think I will open another packet of biscuits now.

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  12. JamesArthur says:

    BBC still very quiet about the elephant and Corona virus increases….
    Leicester, Blackburn, Rotherham, Oldham, Kirklees, Bradford and Luton

    Common factor? And poverty as an answer not allowed!

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      I think it must have something to do with Islamophobia. Clearly everyone must be taught about Islam so that they can learn to love and embrace it rather than fear it. The BBC already have plenty of pro-Islam materials for this on their website.

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    • vlad says:

      Common factor?

      Grooming gangs breaking social distancing rules while gang raping underage white girls?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Same reason track and trace doesn’t work . If you stopped all benefits and allowance I think they’d soon surface ….

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  13. StewGreen says:

    I went to the small shop
    “This is Coop radio, remember that not all disabilities are visible,
    so you may not be aware of someone’s reason for not wearing a mask”

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  14. vlad says:

    Are the beeb reporting this?

    BLM rioters – sorry, peaceful protestors – have stormed Beverley Hills.

    Even better, the BLM-supporting Hollywood luvvies who live there were quick to call the cops – yes, those same police they call racist and signed a letter to defund.

    This guy’s thoroughly enjoying chronicling the implosion of BLM.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8c-i0G5ySY3giqIQepEjcQ

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2020/06/27/blm-protesters-storm-beverly-hills-neighborhood-eat-the-rich/

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Do the BBC report the deaths of other campaigners proportionately ?
    eg the ones that campaign on grooming gangs
    or men’s rights

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    • StewGreen says:

      She’d not noticed her immigration status cos she’d never been abroad since arriving 51 years earlier.
      Then in 2017 had taken her to the detention centre for six nights, only to change their mind at last moment when they took her to Heathrow.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      A Falklands veteran committed suicide after going missing yesterday – I saw it through military contacts – but the media isn’t interested in blokes who have put themselves on the line for their country – just the likes of this lady and the ‘give me ‘routine

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    • StewGreen says:

      There is something unusual
      was she ever legal ?
      She didn’t actually come with her parent’s
      rather her mother sent her to her grandparents here.
      I winder if that is why she never applied for documentation.
      Other kids, came when their parents were invited to work, so if they got residency you’d expect their dependent children to be given residence, but grand kids is a different levels.

      The Guardian report also mentions a Sierra Leone woman here for 51 years
      It’s not clear to me that gives her automatic British citizenship.

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  16. Althepalerp says:

    Lefties love to put Black against Whites
    But what makes a Black? Obama mum was White, but he is black.
    If he had 1 grandparent black, would he be white or black?
    How black do you have to be to be classed black?
    I want to know so I don`t offend

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      The loony left-wing Race Ideology calls it “One Drop“.

      Great Great Great Great Grandpa Pinder was born in 1777. So if I could prove he was Black, then I would be able to get into Harvard on the “Black List”.

      With an IQ of 164 and only competing against Blacks, it would be a shoe in. Even though I would be only 1.5625 percent negroid, this 20 percent genetic intellectual handicap would be negligible at 0.3125 percent of the 164 IQ.

      Qualifying or not qualifying for the “One Drop” rule. I should have an IQ of just over 164.5 if I did not qualify.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    Has the BBC assigned a Tone Change editor yet for when Lord Hall Hall eventually gets handed his cardboard box?

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    • Jeff says:

      I’m sorry, I know a lot of you like Boris, but…
      This really is just beyond being bleedin’ pathetic.
      He looks absolutely bloody ridiculous, sitting there in his silly mask.
      Who’s he supposed to be, Dick Turpin?

      Or just Dick…

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Jeff
        I care less for the physical attributes of the ‘bloke I’d have a drink with routine ‘ – his problem is he has no interest in detail – so Starmer – who is also pee poor – makes him and his government look like they are scrambling around week in week out .

        Whether his cabinet is any good – well – wait til spike number 2 or 3 or if a recession really hits . They are just pink Tories – not a right winger amongst them even Rees mogg got absorbed by his dream 3rd choice job …
        I will eat my words if they start to dismantle the BBC mind you .

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        • Thoughtful says:

          Rees Mogg is what is known as an ‘Old Catholic’, those who cling to the values held by the Church at the time of John Paul II. Many times these values coincide with conservative values other times they do not.

          The website ‘conservative woman’ is in reality Catholic woman, espousing as it does first and foremost old Catholic values.

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  18. Guest Who says:

    Fight!

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  19. Thoughtful says:

    What they aren’t telling you about electric cars – worth a read:

    https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2020/03/18/electric_motors_versus_internal_combustion_engines_486956.html

       14 likes

  20. Guest Who says:

    The essential nature of bbc output is well documented.

    But quite how this series constitutes ‘a story’ escapes me.

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  21. Fedup2 says:

    Something you won’t be hearing on the BBC

    As a result of the new EU covid agreement the Irish Republic – so long an enthusiast for all things EU – will be contributing £3200 per head of population – CAP or not – I wonder if there might be a growing support for – er – irexit ?

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  22. tvlicensingblog says:

    More new articles from the BBC TV Licensing Blog for the weekend:
    BBC Slammed for Begging Bowl Behaviour
    BBC Radio & Music Earmarks £12 Million to Creative Diversity

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    The 70 page book is packed full of information about the harassment and intimidation meted out by the BBC in the name of TV licence enforcement.

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  23. Fedup2 says:

    Tv
    Thanks for your efforts – it will take a lot of ‘actors ‘ to end the BBC – and patience is needed – whether we like it or not ….

       13 likes

  24. StewGreen says:

    Fullfact playing games
    If they really cared about the raping gang victims
    they’d do a proper job of stating the cumulative magnitude of the offences
    rather than just finding the highest raw count of victims anyone ever gave and saying it’s far too high.

    Raw victim counts is a despicable metric.
    You can’t equate some 15.5 yo girl who’s only a victim of child sex abuse, cos some man sent her dick pic once, with victims who were pimped by raping gangs from age 12.

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  25. Guest Who says:

    Lewis really should go back to being an opposition politician.

       8 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      And here’s Jon’s squad doing the same in America.

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    • Guest Who says:

      #viewshisown

      Apparently.

      BS got a second account?

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      • StewGreen says:

        @GW you think that the Pardoe account is so supportive of Goodhall’s tweet
        that it could be a good friend or someone in the same house ?

        It’s bio lists a website which has been dead for some time.

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        • Guest Who says:

          No expert, so let me become an ‘expert source who says’, BBC-styly.

          * It is certain there is some kind of list passed around certain bubbles of those to block, ban or report. Too many have found people they had never heard of have already done so.

          * Pile ons are a frequent event in defence of those within those bubbles.

          * Untraceability is as good as one degree of separation in beebubble. And exemptions exist to ensure no links are ever made or proven.

          * Jim was soon put right on how #viewsmyown works, or is supposed to, by Charter, as opposed to £300k Head of Being Ignored BBC Directors of Boobs.

          * Lewis has been posting a lot about plants at home, so to answer your question, yes.

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    • tarien says:

      Why should someone with a property that has a worth on the market myabe enough to support them in a care home sell it?-why should the government have to offer support. Maybe the amount the property was sold for, may only cover 10 yrs and not twenty-well that’s tough titty-however it is appreciated that in order to give a return of say £30K per annum, for the care home cost, no doubt an invested amount of half a million would be needed. Cheaper elsewhere in Europe but that’s not much to look forward to!

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      • BRISSLES says:

        I’ve always said I’d sell my house, and live permanently on a cruise ship – I’ve known others who have done it. On week to week costing compared to a care home, there’s little in it, and you get to see the world ! Doctor on board – tick, room cleaned and bed changed – tick, food 24 hours a day – definite tick, laundry facilities – tick, plus never ending entertainment ! If you die you just get chucked overboard with no funeral costs. Whats not to like ??

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  26. Guest Who says:

    Luckily the BBC and its experts were bang on, then off, then on, then off again…

    But they ‘admit’ nothing.

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  27. StewGreen says:

    Another rubbish Fullfact debunk from the school children at fullfact
    ‘We gotcha Boris you talked about care home tests but said that all these workers & residents had been tested
    but but .. you didn’t actually give the number of people tested , you gave the number of tests done
    .. and many people are tested twice. so the number of individuals will be quite a bit less’
    Boris had claimed
    “125K workers in care settings
    118K care home residents
    have been tested through DHSC and PHE testing routes.”

    OK that should have been
    ” 125K care worker tests were done
    and 118K care home resident tests were done
    (if you add up the 57K PHE lab tests & the 61K PRIVATE lab tests)”

    https://fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-tests-care-home-workers-data/

    #1 OK the media have always made a big thing of the test tally being much smaller that the number of people tested
    due to the way you tend to test people twice if the first result is negative.
    You might say that 100K tests = 60K person checks done
    It’s cheeky like giving a price without VAT
    but doesn’t actually matter cos both are pretty big numbers
    All Boris is saying is ‘hey it not just 6,000 tests’

    #2 Fullfact are WRONG to fixate on number of INDIVIDUALS tested
    Cos when it comes to workers you are actually testing the same workers again and again each month
    If you only count individuals you might well get up to 18,000 individual workers in the first month
    then the rest of the year that total wouldn’t rise , cos you you’d be testing the same workers even though you are doing 18,000 new tests each month.
    That’s why I called the metric “person checks done”
    cos that would include all checks done.

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  28. Richard Pinder says:

    Lots and lots more people angry with the BBC today. Brexiteers and Ukipers, Tories and Ulster Unionists, Yorkshire folk and the Welsh, Christians and Jews, Men and Mensa members, Patriots and Pensioners.

    Ten news stories about the BBC:

    (1) BBC on brink as ‘out of touch’ broadcaster warned it has just ONE WEEK to save its future

    (2) Ofcom told ‘biased BBC’ is systemically pro-EU and has ‘failed Britain

    (3) Andrew Neil Show CUT from BBC as furious viewers question licence fee

    (4) BBC crisis as Boris pushes ahead with decriminalising TV licence fee

    (5) Don’t bother with the BBC!’ Mike Parry lashes out in TV licence row

    (6) BBC licence fee MUST be decriminalised as pensioners terrified

    (7) ‘Public are sick of BBC bias and waste’ declares Sammy Wilson as he challenges media minister over licence fee

    (8) Tory MP erupts at ‘anti-Brexit BBC’ in furious tirade – ‘My constituents voted to LEAVE’

    (9) BBC censorship and the man-made global warming scam

    (10) New Dawn Of Truth: London Climate Change Conference 2016: was also censored by the BBC

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    • Oaknash says:

      But still it gets away with pushing any issue damaging to our nations interests. In reality Boris does nothing.
      I think the BBC sees itself as the unofficial opposition constantly pushing the Overton window increasingly further to the left – with its tacit support for the latest BLM and immigration madness and “understanding” attitude to the courts decision to allow that Jihadi mole back into the nation and unquestioning support for Boris’s mask insanity and the wild goose chase for reds under the election bed – it seems to me that the Government needs the presence of the BBC to make its own support for its own governmental, slow burn Cultural Marxist policies look reasonable

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  29. taffman says:

    “Free speech row over new hate crime bill in Scotland”

    Gradually, bit by bit, the traditional British freedoms of thought and expression are being taken away from us as we the indigenous people of these islands are expected to assimilate with the immigrant population and not the other way round .
    It all began with Al Beeb and it’s manufacture of “political correctness”. In truth, there was nothing “political” about it at all . The majority of the population neither called or demanded our politicians for its being. ‘The tail is wagging the dog’. The political leaders are telling us what to do and say, whereas it should be the other way round. The political charade known as “Parliament” needs reforming and there is a new political party waiting in the wings to do just that – The Reform Party.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Mehdi Hasan without the wicked grin and winning charm?

      Bet Kamal, Mishal, Naga, Faisal, etc are vying to be the ones ‘interviewing’ this dish.

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      This 35 year old created and is now driving through the new hate crime bill in Scotland:
      2020-07-25-0730-New-Scottish-Anti-Hate-Bill.jpg

      Scotland’s justice secretary Humza Yousaf told BBC Scotland: “ … we just don’t accept freedom of speech is completely unfettered. What this does is create a protection for, particularly minority groups and vulnerable groups in our society, against being targeted for hatred and being targets for hatred.”

      Here is the Justice’s Ministers background (adapted from Wikipedia):
      • Son of immigrants who arrived in the UK in the 1960s … father from Pakistan.
      • Educated at Hutchesons’ Grammar School. Studied Politics at University of Glasgow, graduating in 2007.
      • At University, was President of the Muslim Students Association & a prominent figure in student politics.
      • From early age, involved in community work … was the volunteer media spokesperson for Islamic Relief … & worked for a project providing food packages to asylum seekers.
      • In 2007 began working as a Parliamentary assistant for Scotland’s first Muslim MSP Bashir Ahmad ….
      • Awarded the “Future Force of Politics” at the Young Scottish Minority Ethnic Awards in 2009.
      • May 2011 elected to Scottish Parliament at just 25 years of age – youngest MSP to be elected.
      • Took his swearing in oath in English and Urdu, dressed in traditional Mughal Muslim noble regalia.
      • Appointed to Justice and Public Audit Committees.
      • May 2011 appointed as a Parliamentary Liaison Officer to the Office of the First Minister.
      • September 2012, became Minister for External Affairs & International Development … the first Muslim to be appointed as a Minister to the Scottish Government.
      • May 2016 moved to the position of Minister for Transport and the Islands
      • June 2018 moved to the position of Justice Secretary in the Cabinet.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Now imagine… elsewhere…

        • Son of immigrants who arrived in Pakistan in the 1960s … mother from The Cotswolds
        • Educated at Mullah Omar’s madrassa and crèche. Studied Politics and Protests at University of Islamabad under Visiting Professor Kamal Ahmed on a Paul Mason scholarship, graduating in 2007.
        • At University, was President of the Christian Students Purging Association & a prominent figure in student Mostly Peaceful politics.
        • From early age, involved in ‘community‘ work … was the volunteer media spokesperson for Hand Relief suppressing unfortunate reports about kids up in Peshawar … & worked for a project providing ‘food‘ packages in oddly long wooden crates to asylum seekers headed to Western China.
        • In 2007 began working as a Parliamentary assistant for Pakistan’s first Jewish MSP Rabbi Netanyahu ….
        • Awarded the “Future Force of Politics Or Else” at the Young Pakistan Token Kaffir Awards in 2009.
        • May 2011 elected to Pakistani Parliament at just 25 years of age – youngest MSP to be elected, narrowly losing to that dumb younger bird in debate, but a guy, so suck it up ladies.
        • Took his swearing like a Gorbals SNP ginger, dressed in traditional Tartan noble regalia.
        • Appointed to Injustice and Under the Counter Audit Committees.
        • May 2011 appointed as a Parliamentary Liaison Officer to the Office of the First Minister, handling ‘Special Donations’.
        • September 2012, became Minister for External Affairs & International Development … the first person not ‘Asian’ to be appointed as a Minister to the Pakistan Government.
        • May 2016 moved to the position of Minister for Transport and the Islands, which is funny if you think about it.
        • June 2018 moved to the position of Injustice Secretary in the Cabinet.
        * Aug 2020 orders all people not not of color to be purged, with state broadcaster PBC, rammed with distant relatives, running his Glories across all media, social and short circuit wireless, constantly.

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      • G says:

        BBC,
        He won’t be the only one who has engineered his way toward being in a controlling position over whitey. In a coordinated manner, they will all rise up in the not-too-distant future and we will not know what hit’s us. I’ll be long gone by then.

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        • BRISSLES says:

          G .. I’ve thought the same for many years. And of course there is the breeding programme…… and if they insist on being identified as British why the hell cant they have names that we recognise and pronounce ???? but no, they stick with names that are more in line with their ‘heritage and culture’ rather than the one they are born in. For years we’ve been lumbered with numerous versions of Mohammed which has topped the list of boys names many times – and that’s when I realised the rot really had set in, and its only taken 50 years for it to happen. The perfect storm of Windrush combined with the influx from India/Pakistan.

          Sadly all of our history before then will be no longer relevant in say 100 years, because its not relevant to migrants and their subsequent families now, and will be even less so in future generations of immigrants.

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      • tarien says:

        What is the Scottish Government thinking? It rather confirms reports that the First Mnister has gone right off her trolley. This appointment of a Muslim to fill the post of Justice Secretary whether he be good or bad, is an affront an outrage to the Scottish people. My wife’s family fought against the Nazi’s all over Europe, against the Japs in Malaya, in the jungles of Burma, against the North Koreans showing great bravery in each war front. Now this great nation who has served the United Kingdom so well, throws what its sons and daughters gave in bravery and their sacrifice to see their nation growing into one of subjugation, exploitation, developed now with creeping duplicity for the devil to take a hold. Too late for regrets the die is cast-God save Scotland.

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        • Van Helsing says:

          Tarien,

          One wonders if Nicola Sturgeon was ever actually on her trolley, so to speak.

          As for the Justice Minister, he made a great fist of his stint in charge of the transport brief – he was busted for driving someone else’s car without insurance…

          Still, there’s every chance that the SNP will tear itself to pieces when Salmond’s forthcoming book hits the shelves. One lives in hope.

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    • Oaknash says:

      Taffman I listened to a small bit of the “BBC World at One” yesterday the talking head journalists and Tory politicians were all rating Boris saying how he was doing OK but he had to get his act together before the next elections and build more bridges, infrastructure, broadband etc if he wants to get re-elected by the “Northern Wall” leaving one very large elephant in the room immigration. I find it embarrassing listening to my so called countryman all gabbling away trying to fill the air time with comments about everything except the one thing most of us want to hear.

      It was more like a vanilla liberal wish list Aunty quite happy to go along with this rubbish because at the end of the day (possibly with the exclusion of brexit) Boris is helping most of the liberal wet dreams come true.

      Regarding the “reform Party” I hope they get their act together soon – however as we saw with the Brexit party the reality was – was that they acted like a pressure release valve – letting Boris off the hook when it really counted.
      To be honest I now think that things have gone beyond any sort of “democratic” fix – it is down to the people if they really want to live in a country dominated by identity politics, corrupt establishment and the domination of liberal shibboliths.

      Direct action is what is needed – of course this means getting their fat arses away from the sofas and TV sets and onto the streets.

      Personally I cant see it we have been conditioned by the BBC to look away – It is always somebody else’s child that has been “groomed” someone else’s grandmother who cant get medical treatment, It is always somebody else’s father who lost his job for saying the wrong thing and some one else’s family who cant get housed – Until it is yours.

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      • taffman says:

        Oaknash
        The Brexit Party proved it self by taking the largest number of seats in the last EU elections.
        Boris got in to the PMs job because ‘dyed in the wool’ Tory voters were frightened by the media that used the ‘Corbyn bogeyman’ tactic.
        A number of Brexit seats were abandoned to allow the Tory MP free passage.
        Next time vote for The Reform Party (formerly the Brexit Party) .
        https://www.thebrexitparty.org

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        • Oaknash says:

          Taffy
          I certainly would never ever vote Tory = last time I abstained, I would have voted Brexit if they had stood but they didnt stand.
          As I have said above I think that things are now getting a bit beyond conventional politics – I think we are entering a period asymmetrical politics where the brick and the bottle will mean more than the polling card ( more’s the pity).

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    • Dobyns says:

      Taff …

      IMO, in truth it’s all political with nothing “correct” about it

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  30. Fedup2 says:

    A favourite BBC droid Ms E Maitlisssss has landed a gig as cover girl for Tatler magazine .

    It has a feature interview she discribes her rise to global greatness – how she is replacing wimmins hour with ‘The Maitlissss Hour’ and how she is the last real journalist left now that mr A Neill has gone to C5 to make more railway shows

    Para 2 of this comment may contain ‘ alt facts’

       18 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Tat having a BS day?

      She knows where her audience both are.

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    • Oaknash says:

      Yeah I saw a few pictures of that – she was posing with her whippet, which had more meat on it than she does!
      So bloody vain, wants to be recognised as some sort of big brain when in reality all she really wants to be is a clothes horse.

      Still when you are a big beast of BBC land you can always have it all.

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      • Scroblene says:

        Ha ha ha, Oak!

        Clothes Horse!

        I’d heartily recommend one of Damon Runyon’s fabulous stories, from ‘Stories a la carte’ …

        ‘Old Em’s Kentucky home’, is all about an ageing horse, and told by a proper journalist from his day, who’d never take any notice of his under-managers and told it as it was!

        His legacy is a race named after him in The Aqueduct, NY, and also a continuing charity ‘Damon Runyon Cancer Research Foundation’, to help battle the disease.

        I reckon I know this is a real journalist and writer, whose legacy will stand forever – not so sure about the other…

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  31. AsISeeIt says:

    As Guido Fawkes brings us a report about a fun piece of Labour Party neo-communist memorabilia – ‘signed copy of the red flag lyrics, carrying the signatures of none-other than Ed Miliband, Jeremy Corbyn and Sir Keir Starmer. The framed poster can be yours for just £200 – the current highest bid’…

    The BBC have this scare headline:

    ‘Amazon, Google and Wish have removed neo-Nazi and white-supremacist products being sold on their platforms following an investigation by BBC Click.’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53518008

    So, we ask ourselves, what’s a neo-nazi product and why exactly are the BBC pushing their nose into what Amazon happen to be selling?

    ‘White-supremacist flags, neo-Nazi books and Ku Klux Klan merchandise were all available for sale.’

    Don’t tell me we’re going on a virtual digital flag and book burning expedition – isn’t that a bit… nazi?

    ‘an anti-hate organisation, said the companies needed to “constantly be on top of what the algorithm is recommending…” algorithms had to be “taught to be responsible”

    How sinister is that?

    ‘One of the items found for sale on Amazon was a white-supremacist flag featuring a Celtic Cross.’

    Oh, the humanity, quick nurse, fetch the smelling salts!

    ‘The think tank Demos has raised concerns that online algorithms can push shoppers towards hateful content.’

    Now there’s a thought. I wonder whether gushingly approving reports from the BBC on violent BLM demos could push people toward extremism?

    “It often takes human investigation to work out that people are being led down this path,” said Josh Smith of Demos.’

    Josh, mate, how stupid do you think people are? Five minutes with some bedsheets and a tin of paint and someone could knock up as many KKK hoods and swastika flags as they wanted.

    Do the BBC suggest banning the sale of bedsheets and tins of paint?

    How we wonder did Herr Schicklgruber manage to start things up in Munich in the 1920s without Amazon Prime next day delivery for his flags and armbands?

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    • Guest Who says:

      In answer to your last, was it not accelerated after Night of the Long Paintballing saw Himmler’s Hugo Boss Outfits Matter troupe take over on crowd control and Goebbels let loose with ‘views my own… or else’?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Ha ha – this political party is proudly sponsored by Mercedes Benz….

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  32. Venutius says:

    Following on from my previous post on Jo Stevens (Cardiff). The Labour run city council have folded to ‘pressure’ and boarded up the statue of Thomas Picton. A man described by the BBC as a cruel slave owner for his action in the West Indies.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-53526230

    Like most iconic Victorian British Colonial figures the blunt headline and subsequent reactive action ignores the multifaceted history around these figures of their time.

    I hope history and society will judge those involve in the removal or character assassination of men and women unable to defend themselves with equal severity.

    Councillor De’Ath, described Picton as a “monster”, said he was “very pleased with the way we’ve chosen to do it, democratically”.

    Please contrast Councillor De’Ath’s description with that of Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington KG GCB GCH PC FRS; in his typically laconic style, Wellington wrote to the Minister of War, Lord Bathurst on Picton’s death:

    “Your lordship will observe, that such a desperate action could not be fought, and such advantages could not be gained, without great loss; and, I am sorry to add, that ours has been immense. In Lieutenant-general Sir Thomas Picton, his majesty has sustained the loss of an officer who has frequently distinguished himself in his service; and he fell, gloriously leading his division to a charge with bayonets, by which one of the most serious attacks made by the enemy of our position was defeated.”

    I know precisely who’s opinion I stand behind.

    The purge of our history continues apace with the complicity of Labour, and barely a whimper from the BBC. This has nothing to do with statues, it’s about power conceded all too readily to a vocal mob.

    Councillor De’Ath et al are not fit to lace Picton’s boots and everyone associated with Cardiff and Labour should be ashamed. They are neither Welsh nor British and represent a society and future I want no part of.

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      ‘Thomas Picton. A man described by the BBC as a cruel slave owner’

      That’s an interesting qualifier – ‘cruel’ slave owner. I thought you only had to be a slave owner to have your statue targeted. I wonder whether the BBC feel the argument that we must condemn out of hand all historical slave associated figures is weakening?

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      • taffman says:

        Al Beeb’s hatred and airbrushing of Britain’s great history goes on with out any defence of our culture by the so called excuse for a Tory government. Without people like Nelson, Wellington and Picton we would all be speaking French now and possibly slavery would have continued for much longer than it did. The propaganda has its roots in our universities and the Biased Broadcasting Corruption. As yourselves the question, why does the Conservative government allow it to continue ? Could it be because they are no longer ‘conservative’ ?

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        • Venutius says:

          Taff

          The Conservative party became the Liberal party under John Major. The genius was simply to leave the name.

          30 years later the penny begins to drop.

          New Labour, remember them!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Ven
      There is something deeply disturbing about this process . Like a lot of snowflake action – it’s not thought through . Where does it stop ? Is it a surrogate war of ideas being fought out through the destruction of images of people as opposed to real people .
      Only approved images of people will be allowed – similar to approved thoughts . One wrong word (eg ‘Damn “ in the case of David Starkey- Ends a career ) . A collective view of an individual ends their ability to Communicate with others ( Katie Price ) despite having broken no law .

      And all this is going on whilst a hapless Conservative Party with a huge majority has just taken over .

      Perhaps we are being too sensitive to statues and social media – and that there are bigger issues (brexit – recession ) but there is some old line about how easy it is for freedoms to be removed – and impossible to get back without much suffering .

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      • Venutius says:

        Fed

        75 years ago the politics of Germany was the diametric opposite of what we see today. So much can change, so quickly.

        The statues themselves don’t matter, the process and inability of these men and women to be given fair trial does. That is a society I don’t like or wish to be part of. The removal of a man like Picton should be the beating heart of debate in the Commons, a chamber where he cut his cloth.

        Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher are next. It’s a purge and it’s all about power. We are in the centre of an ideological war being raged across every information platform across the West.

        The Conservative party sit on the fence, The Labour Party ready, as always, to drag our history through the mud. Watching the HoC’s is like watching the tea party during the Indian uprising on Carry on up the Khyber (something also to be banned!).

        We are in Alice in wonderland territory with what’s happening in our country, our schools, our police our whole legislature. ‘Deeply disturbing’ is appropriate Fed.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Ven

          When you describe it as you do it is very frightening . I initially thought it was a fad or some kind of dementia caused by the rapid change in life caused by the chinese virus and thr response .

          Now im not too sure – the way the ‘matter’ banner had been exploited by more sinister marxist corbyn momentum outfits and not realised by various bits of society ( yet ?) is frightening .

          Maybe those with power think that its not important if the ‘ kidults ‘ are taking it out on statue and social media figures –

          But its a short step to blood shed – a new brand of terrorism and people saying WTF did this come from ?

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          • Venutius says:

            Fed

            Those in power have their head in the sand either innocently or deliberately (the jury is out). Look at what’s happening in the US, France, more recently in Poland. Look at the post above around Humza Yousaf, a very divisive and dangerous man indeed. Someone I watched given oxygen by BBC Scotland from the beginning during my time up there.

            This is the Oxford University head of BLM, a movement we have Keir Starmer and the Premier league kneeling to. A movement because of which Thomas Picton’s statue has been removed. A movement the BBC has endless favourable clips and features on.

            One has to ask, what the hell is going on!

               28 likes

            • Guest Who says:

              Meanwhile…

              Oh noes! But Stormzy is golden with the #Metoo and pacifist girls at W1A, and the women, so all good.

                 19 likes

            • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

              Does anyone know the full name of this Oxford Black Lives Matter leader, is she a student at Oxford University, what is she studying etc.

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            • Guest Who says:

              Has CSI:End of the Keir promoted this intellectual powerhouse to Shadow Minister of Gazan Rooftops yet?

              His front bench is in danger of looking like a Milky Bar accidentally plonked on the 95% Cocoa shelf.

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            • theisland says:

              The Sasha Johnson clip comes from a TR interview.
              The 15 min video contains a subsequent phone call to TR from Sasha’s “PA” which shows who is pulling the strings of black people with grievances to advance Marxism.

              See also https://www.tr.news/exposing-the-ideology-of-hypocrisy-and-race-hate/

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          • G says:

            All in good time I think.

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  33. AsISeeIt says:

    Joke of the day

    BBC: Working from home: How to cut your tax bill

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52982988

    Well, voting Tory won’t help you. Boom-boom.

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  34. Oldspeaker says:

    So someone’s will has been imposed on us and masked up shopping is the new normal, why aren’t these people dropping like flies?

    I’m not a virus denier and I’ll wear a mask if necessary, only it doesn’t have to be a mask just a bit of cloth which is proven useless as a barrier to virus. Looks more like an exercise in control than concern over health. Control over some that is.

       29 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Olds*, there was news yesterday – on, I think, MSN [ that’s Microsoft News, Fed 😉 ] – that the Government and PM have realised they have boobed on compulsory facemasks by not making gloves mandatory as well. There was a suggestion that ‘the rules’ will soon be changed – again.

      The facemask policy of HMG is incoherent.

      * Abbreviating your name like that gave me a warm fuzzy feeling of nostalgia and memories of 1/32nd scale Oldsmobile Toronados hurtling round a Scalextric track or the more serious club equivalent.

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      • Oaknash says:

        I think I might invest in some of the old NCB “Noddy” suits complete with respirators and sell them to the shoppers along with a few sacks of fullers earth.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Yes, after ‘ER everyone in England’, the UK will then be moved on to ‘CSI: the UK’ with everyone in full anti-contam suits and overshoes.

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  35. AsISeeIt says:

    Slim pickings this morning for fans of those newspaper front page interesting little non-headline items. Most papers devote most of their page space to poor old dumbo Prince Harry and his svengali princess or to the Traveling Wilburys who Grand Theft Autoed a cop and got off with a slapped wrist – thank you, m’lud… have we been up before you before… I don’t know, what time do you get up?

    The Daily Star would have us believe ‘Maddie spotted in shop’ whilst FT Weekend reckons one Sarah Gilbert is our ‘vaccine scientist and saviour’. On a balance of probabilities I’m going with the Maddie story as the most likely to be true.

    The FT further stretches credulity with the report Lloyds bank diversity goals deemed ‘credit positive’ – hang onto your hats you Lloyds shareholders. Will they soon have to drop that black horse logo we wonder?

    A little something BBC Radio 4 related to get our teeth into in the ‘i’ – Janet Street-Porter tells us her relationship with the Archers’ is over. Personally I opted out from following Ambridge when Walter Gabriel was a lad (that’s one for the teenagers).

    The ‘i’ further delights with a report on their (virtual) page 4: ‘dismay of Home Office staff at bosses’ response to Black Live Matter’

    I wonder, Home Office staff do realise that the British public are their bosses, right?

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      By the way, you know that feeling when you think of the perfect bon mot but it’s five minutes after the conversation has moved on.

      Well, here goes… that Daily Star story about Maddie being spotted in a shop – can the witness be sure, was she wearing a mask?

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  36. Guest Who says:

    Aaaaand, she’s off!

    Again.

       11 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Parliament is on holiday, so she thinks she has less work.

         8 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Nah. Even busier at Lewis’ gaff, strategising for…. mutual ‘friends’. When not surfing and circling wagons and running defence.

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  37. Fedup2 says:

    Twitter watch – not on the BBC

    ‘Prominent Black Trump Supporter Murdered in Milwaukee‘

    60 year old shot dead outside his shop which has banners supporting Donald Trump – no arrests – police exploring ‘political motive ‘ to the killing …..

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  38. AsISeeIt says:

    State-funded Southbank Centre ping me my regular ‘culture fix’ by email this morning.

    Included in their suggested one-flavour cultural soup diet is the grandiose-sounding Royal Society of Literature

    https://rsliterature.org/about-us/

    ‘Roger Robinson’s tender and timely collection A Portable Paradise is the focus of the first virtual book club in the Royal Society of Literature’s newly launched series.’

    Virtual book club – sounds like a cute and timely idea.

    ‘Roger Robinson’s range is wide: the joys and pains of family life; the ubiquitous presence of racism…’

    You know what, I think I’ll just read a book instead.

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  39. vlad says:

    Are the BBC reporting this? Of course not – wouldn’t want to show up their beloved anarcho-Marxist BLM in a bad light, would we?

    “Six Weeks, Six Cities, 600 Murders”

    “The single most important issue, affecting some of the largest swaths of populations in America, is the scandal the media ignores even as it explodes in our faces.

    In only six weeks, city after city operated by entrenched Democrats have seen a massive expansion in lawlessness, violence, and murder.”

    https://pointofview.net/articles/six-weeks-six-cities-600-murders/

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  40. Guest Who says:

    The best bit as the Beebbint (irony overload) gushes is the one drone left pulling his mask down as the one next to him sneezes.

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    • vlad says:

      I think the beeb would like us to rejoice as yet another ex-cathedral falls to the Caliphate.

      They’ll be cock-a-hoop when St Paul’s finally falls.

      7Tate_detail2.jpg

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  41. Thoughtful says:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/24/media/washington-post-sandmann-settlement-lawsuit/index.html

    The lying scum media has been forced into settlements for fake news they published slandering a young Trump supporter.

    Many will remember the stand off between a red Indian banging a drum in the face of a schoolboy wearing a red MAGA hat, and the distorted output of the media.

    Later stories proved they had lied, and now both CNN, and the Washington Post have had to reach out of court settlements.

    If only more people were prepared to take legal action against them.

    Of course in Britain the greedy weasels make it impossible for ordinary people to have access to justice – witness the carrying on of them at the Johnny Depp show trial. The British media rarely reach out of court settlements because they know that outside of the extremely wealthy, no one can afford the massive costs involved in bringing an action.

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    • scribblingscribe says:

      Could someone tell that maligned young man he would win far more in the UK by taking the BBC to court. After all the BBC were enthusiastic in their deceit about what happened, despite having the entire video to see.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        He wouldn’t though. The costs would be in the tens of millions, and the settlement wouldn’t.

        Cliff Richards for instance:

        “The BBC was ordered to pay £210,000 in damages, and later agreed to pay £850,000 to cover legal costs. That figure has now increased.

        However, the singer said he was still “substantially out of pocket”.

        During the trial, the 78-year-old singer said he had spent more than £3m to clear his name.

        Britains courts exist solely for the enrichment of lawyers, and little else.

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  42. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – The BBC does not do advertising

    Oh, yes it does! Two adverts this morning in the second hour of the programme. Both about books and newspapers. Am sure the Times, especially, will be grateful for the help from the BBC. The Ghost of Murdoch has obviously been quickly forgotten by the BBC.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Confession
      I still use the BBC – but it’s okay -it’s only for my gambling addiction . I look at the GG cards on the BBC website … as I am ‘overseas the website carries a link to real advertising – so out of interest I clicked on it . About half the BBC screen was taken up with advertising . Now there’s a way they can fund themselves – if they are any good of course – which they are not .

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, you’ve a breeviated all over me!

        It took me a few seconds of aged brain strain (think Bluebottle: “Eughhh. Euuuugggghhh!” – (FX) Loud twang – “Thinks: I’ve just snapped my braces. Euu.”) to work out what GG is!

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Up2
          I do like to tease with the abrieves- yesterday i used one called KSi but i guess people know or google it .

          I once worked for a high level boss who came into my organisation new to it . On day one she called me in and said” fedup – i dont understand what anyone is saying – they all talk in code – can you write a booklet for me to explain WTF they are saying ? “ so i tasked one of my minions to do it and by the next day i had written it TTFN

          As an aside – while was in the bosses ‘ office i read something on her desk which said someone was to get a high value award . I mentioned it ( risky ) . She had no idea what it was and was going to send it in the internal post – the standard practice was a Full Award Ceremony with a big boss .
          There is definately a downside to importing outsiders into some outfits .

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  43. taffman says:

    Despite the shouts and threats from Javid and Patel they still come , more than ever …………
    “Eight boats carrying 86 migrants have been intercepted by Border Force in the Channel, and on landing in East Sussex.”
    Do we have a Home Office that looks after our borders and security ?
    Do we have a Tory government ?
    Next time vote for the new Reform Party.

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  44. Peter Grimes says:

    Yup, Al Beeb loves a statistic…unless of course it goes against their anti-Government attack lines.

    Who would have thought after the fuss they made about testing that we would catch up with the best and surpass them? Will Al Beeb report that the number of UK tests now equals that of Germany and France combined?

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109066/coronavirus-testing-in-europe-by-country/

    (Just a personal bit, I had been experiencing a few of the (relatively common) suggested COVID symptoms and had a test yesterday at 11am at the very poorly-attended but efficient Chessington centre. Result, negative, arrived by text and email early this morning. )

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  45. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Top Story in the BBC Children’s news channel: BLM: Two Months On, What’s Happening?
    2020-07-25-0920-cbbc-newsround.jpg
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/53500018

    Well one of the things happening children is that this gave us the BBC an opportunity to bombard you with never ending propaganda for Black Lives Matter, identity politics, anti-White, anti-Trump, anti-English and anti-British ideology to brainwash your impressionable minds.

    We created a Racism news subsection to tell you of your white privilege, we scared and traumatized you with stories of angry white people, we explained how the culture of your parents and grandparents was racist, and why you must take the knee and support the BLM marches as a first step to overthrow the system.

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  46. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – (at the risk of being unkind) fixing fatties.

    The BBC presented some coronavirus misinformation this morning. A contributor – from I think PH(E)* or it was a BBC reporter – stated that men were more obese than women in the UK. Not so, Sir.

    The BBC are desperate to fill us all with chemicals. They want an increased Sugar Tax for drinks, a Sugar Tax for food and a Sugar Tax for …. well, probably, sugar. Anything to avoid having their obese BBC salaries taxed at a higher rate to pay for the Pandemic.

    Here’s a little lesson for the BBC on a ‘no names, no pack drill’, basis. A recent change by the supplier of a dairy product to a well known supermarket means that it can now be labelled fat free. Net zero, fat. Unfortunately, ‘some customers’ complain that they can now taste the chemicals that have been added to this dairy item and will no longer buy the product.

    Poor old Jenni Murray. Forced to work until 70. Announces retirement yesterday. Reminded endlessly today by the TOADY Prog about obesity.

    * What a waste of space and taxpayer money is PH(E). Slim down the NHS, I say!

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      Perhaps if Public Health England hadn’t been so obsessed with sugar they just might have been a little more prepared for the Chinese virus.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        AISI, and smoking in the open air. You are right. That wretched Sally Davies woman was on R4, I think, yesterday. We very nearly had more widespread ebola in this country thanks to her taxpayer funded ‘eye not on the ball’ obsessions.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Empirically, around here, the vast majority of the lardbergs on the hoof or mobility scooters for reasons of laziness are the fairer sex, broadly.

      During the latter stages of lockdown our furloughed (from rent) tenant had her aged parents drop off KFC to her to share in the outdoor gazebo over fags and case of Stella.

      The rest of the mobility brigade are male, usually missing a limb amputated for some reason, possibly connected to their pale pallors and skeletal frames.

      Those without wheels are stacked mostly under the local old oak tree when not popping their needles over the fence of the primary.

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  47. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – curiously, no mention …

    Much from 8 a.m. onwards on the PM’s Road to Damascus moment on obesity. One of the facts, painfully obvious to me from people I know, that was omitted from this morning’s concentration on obesity is that a very high proportion of NHS staff are overweight or obese or clinically obese or morbidly obese. Cannot remember the exact statistic but it was brought to me by the BBC themselves a few years ago. Does an omission of facts count as FakeNews, BBC?

    I think it does.

    A note to help the leetle grey zells of the BBC: If obesity makes a person more vulnerable to Covid-19 infection, and if a large number of NHS workers are obese, what does that create? Answers please, TOADY presenters, on a postcard for the new Editor cc. the new DG.

    Ta.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      The prime minister is set to announce new measures to curb obesity next week, and they are expected to include a ban on TV junk food adverts before 21:00.
      BBC
      —————-
      This is clearly racist as people of colour rely on their roles in TV food adverts

      Athletes appearing in food ads

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Brings back memories of another Murray Walker and Damon Hill advert: eating pizza in a well-known restaurant, so well-known that I cannot now remember its name.

        Oh well.

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  48. StewGreen says:

    Whatever the situation in the UK
    it is harmed by the BBC & libmob constantly disrupting the ELECTED government from trying to get things done.
    If they’d let them get Brexit over with, the country would have been in a stronger position to deal with Covid.

    They are just professional antis,
    no sign of a spirit of pulling together to help Brexit.

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  49. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    The following is one example of the BBC using British taxpayers money to act as a pressure group to force companies to remove products.

    BBC Headline: Amazon, Google and Wish remove neo-Nazi products: Amazon, Google and Wish have removed neo-Nazi and white-supremacist products being sold on their platforms following an investigation by BBC Click.

    Basically once the BBC label something as being far right or white supremacist they will then mount a pressure campaign with threats of bad publicity and social media action to force the company to remove products, change practices, and comply with the BBC dictates and censorship.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53518008

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  50. StewGreen says:

    On open borders
    I presume that the Labour party actually has borders
    that they don’t just say to Brexit Party supporters
    “come on in to our party, have a seat on the committee
    we’ve got 200 seats in parliament, so we’ll give up a few and give them to you”. ???

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