Weekend Thread 18 July 2020

The biased Far Left BBC continues to re announce ‘job losses ‘, closing programmes and then ‘saving ‘ them as though we care about them . The truth is that the social campaigning propaganda onslaught is being noticed by more and more people who are forced by law pay for the poison . There is no evidence of ‘diversity of views ‘ from the publicly funded State Broadcaster .

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300 Responses to Weekend Thread 18 July 2020

  1. StewGreen says:

    R4 9:30pm a repeat of Monday’s prog
    “How to think radically about the environment without being an eco-fascist ( trick word) ”
    Lucy Proctor puts forward 2 strawmen, nastily so, cos she uses the trickery of redefining established language.

    As Covid-19 forced humans into lockdown, memes emerged showing the earth was healing thanks to our absence.
    *These were false claims* – but their popularity revealed how seductive the dangerous idea that ‘we are the virus’ can be.

    FFS that reads like a Guardian article
    It’s got double misrepresentation
    she’s extending claims about less traffic (which was true) to say the claims were the planet was healing
    and then saying it was all wrong.

    At its most extreme, this way of thinking leads to eco-fascism,
    the belief the harm humans do to Earth can be reduced by cutting the number of non-white people.

    GRADE #1 TRICKERY ALERT : she’s redefining language
    “eco-fascist”, “eco-Nazi” already has a well established meaning as meaning totalitarian green activists
    it has never meant *green racists*

    But the mainstream green movement is also challenged by a less hateful form of this mentality known as ‘doomism’ – a creeping sense that humans will inevitably cause ecological disaster, that it’s too late to act and that technological solutions only offer more environmental degradation through mining and habitat loss.
    “doomism” ..nope it’s not known as that, more like she has just made it up
    Rather she has defined a rather specific kind of doom-mongery.

    What vision can environmentalists offer as an antidote to these depressing ideas?
    And how can green politics encourage radical thinking without opening the door to hateful ideologies?

    WTF this is very Goebels, she puts forward two negative strawmen, thus seeking to make her green-gang seem like the positive good people.

    The title of the prog “Humans vs the Planet”
    is itself doom-mongery.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000kw56

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    • StewGreen says:

      additional her Twitter friend has weighed in with other new made up word
      “#FarRightEcologism”

      another tweets
      ‘whites’ make up 12% of the world’s population, yet cause over 75% of the environmental harms
      … That’s made up BS cos enviro-harms is not a measurement unit

      BTW there are so huge arguments
      like that the aborigines had already burn down most of the trees in Australia before white man came.
      And that the Maori had wiped out the Moa too.
      Neither is it modern white man that is killing the Rhinos and Orang Utans etc.
      Though it was whites that did the bison 200 years ago.

      Actually as with most Radio4 progs these days it can’t have had many listeners
      cos there is practically no detailed discussion of it on Twitter.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Stew

      I think most of us here know that much of the BBC output is in fact made up opinion that seeks to produce a set narrative.

      I listened to Knobinson interview Dr Thérèse Coffey the Tory DWP Sec of State. She seemed like the sort of Tory we need but what did Knobinson seek to do at every turn -Slag Boris off

      His parting lines. ‘TC is an unusual person in the cabinet – a scientist, but will Boris let her do her job, that remains to be seen’…it was an unnecessary snide comment that failed to reflect her views and the interview…
      BBC is now just a cesspit of personal bias opinions

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  2. StewGreen says:

    As ever Outsiders on SkyNewsAust has a lot of good stuff
    on Youtube

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  3. StewGreen says:

    The Andrew Bolt goes into the Smithsonian’s wacky anti-white leaflet

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    • StewGreen says:

      There a weird thing in that video
      The second half features Mark Latham
      the guy who 15 years ago was the leader of the opposition in the Australian parliament for the LABOR PARTY.
      Then he went into being a media commentator calling the establishment “leftist elites”.
      Now in the last 3 years joined the Australian equivalent of UKIP
      and won a state parliamentary set for them
      with their platform of anti-open borders, anti-solar/wind etc.

      The thing is he used to present Outsiders from 2015-2017
      then he was sacked after wokemob had started an outrage bus against him.
      The Reserve Bank chief had announced he was going to recruit more women on the advice of his 15 year old daughter, so when Latham criticised that , they said he was unfairly attacking her. They joined that to a new episode where he said a 15 year old school spokes kid sounded gay. He said there was context to that.

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  4. StewGreen says:

    Milo’s latest vid says that the Mary Trump
    doesn’t have much actual dirt on Trump.
    That the book has an introductory prologue with damaging accusations
    and that reporters were given a crib sheet ..so wrote all these stories.
    However when you read the actual full chapters the context disarms them.

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  5. taffman says:

    Stabbing in Brighton hospital. Place in lockdown. Not terrorist related ? “Apparently isolated and unexplained incident?”

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    • NotSure says:

      “shocking incident” I read somewhere.

      I’m not shocked, Taff. Totally unsurprised.

      The only thing that ‘shocks’ me these days, is that lot’s of Brits, including some of my small family, are still surprised by these events, given the lowering of the bar over the last 25 years.

      When did reality and truth become unfashionable?

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  6. infoquest says:

    James
    It is an organisation called BARB (barb.co.uk) that publishes the viewing figures.
    The figures are currently based on what 4,493 homes (or households) across the uk watch.
    https://www.barb.co.uk/resources/latest-reporting-sample/

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  7. infoquest says:

    On Guido in the comments section

    I don’t see much difference between the Chinese telling their people how to think and the BBC constantly teklling me how to think, except I have to pay for my propaganda.

    https://order-order.com/2020/07/19/raab-chinese-forced-sterilisation-to-reeducation-camps-are-reminiscent-of-something-we-have-not-seen-for-a-long-long-time/#comments

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  8. Sluff says:

    Multiculturalism and diversity.
    The gifts that keep on giving.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53456235
    ‘Leicester academic questions lockdown approach for BAME groups’

    Click to access Weekly_COVID19_Surveillance_Report_week_29_FINAL.pdf

    PHE Local Authority watchlist.

    Are you feeling enriched? Or just taken for a ride?

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  9. pugnazious says:

    Shamima Begum…innocent young girl groomed by a toxic internet and turned into an extremist jihadi seething with hate for the West.

    Why is it only Muslims joined the Islamic State? Sounds like a stupid question but it gets to the very heart of the problem….If she hadn’t been a Muslim she wouldn’t have joined.

    Did ‘The Internet’ sidle up to her and seduce her, ply her with drink and drugs [as they did in Rochdale, Rotherham and so many other places…funny how the BBC is now so concerned about the grooming of one Muslim girl but didn’t give monkeys about 2,000 young white girls] and sweet nothings and waft her over to Syria on a magic carpet?

    No…she, already primed, brainwashed, by her upbringing in a Muslim environment which told her the West was bad, a narrative reinforced by the BBC et al, sought out those websites and kept on seeking them out, watching them endlessly despite knowing full well what ISIS were doing. She embraced it and even when she was there and the full reality and horror of war as fought by ISIS was self-evident she still embraced it.

    You have to ask what is it about Islam that incites this, what did her family and friends say to her, what did the mosque teach, what was her ‘community’ narrative?

    Then you have to ask the difficult question, because you know the answer to the previous one….what to do about Islam as communities march rapidly into segregation and parallel lives according to Trevor Phillips?

    It’s a subject both the media and the politicians refuse to genuinely engage with….the answer and the solution being somewhat tricky….they’d rather see us Islamised, and that is happening, than stand up for Western values, beliefs and culture and be labelled a racist by the BBC et al.

    If you went on the rampage, as BLM has done, to defend your culture and not least your skin colour’s rights [if Blacks can have their own culture so, logically, can Whites] the BBC would instantly mount a campaign to denounce everyone who took part and to label them Far-Right.

    You are being quietly Islamised by the back door….the APPG on British Muslims definition of Islamophobbia [essentially you just have to be critical of Islam or anything a Muslim does in any way whatsoever to be an Islamophobe] not being accepted by the Government is being adopted by councils…so it is being introduced by stealth in effect with no public debate and undoubtedly little publicity for debate in the councils…..

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug
      The only good feature of this is the others who went with her are dead . I looked at the appeal decision and to me it looked at though the government didn’t try to hard .

      If they could get an assurance from the Bangladeshis that there would be no death penalty and

      Got a demonstration that she could communicate with a Uk court using distancing technology I reckon a reasonable Supreme Court could overturn the judgement

      However a reasonable Supreme Court is not a given …..

      Your point about the amount of attention various forms of grooming gets is very well made – but since Islam took over the BBC not something to be readily explored by the worlds ‘ best broadcaster …

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      • AsISeeIt says:

        One way or another, sooner of later, she’s coming back. Inevitable. The Home Sec, the Courts, thay all know it. The only game in town is who gets the public ire. The government will deflect blame on the courts. But parliament could legislate its way out of most of these legal problems if it had the will.

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    • theisland says:

      As far as I can see the only party not afraid to talk about the creeping horror of Islam and who has a coherent policy statement about it is For Britain.
      Consequently the party is denied all publicity.
      I shall be voting for them in local elections at the first possible opportunity.

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    • vlad says:

      Make no mistake, the ultimate aim of islam is to conquer and subjugate the world, especially the West.

      By sword and by stealth, by birth-rate and by migration. And with our leftist liberalism, our soft secularism, our cringing Christianity, our pusillanimous politicians and our mendacious media – it’s like kicking in an open door.

      Worse still, it is increasingly becoming criminalised to even point out the danger and cry ‘Fire’.

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/

      https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

      https://barenakedislam.com/

      http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/islam_unbelievers.html

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  10. AsISeeIt says:

    Strolling along the suburban streets one often passes some welcoming looking hostelry. A window sticker announces the house is ‘dog friendly’ and this seems to promise a relaxed convivial atmosphere. But that canine favourable slogan and its less humane partner ‘these premises are proctected by CCTV’ have been joined by signs installed by mine host extolling patrons to ‘social distance’ and to ‘use the hand wash provided’. Heaven knows what further bylaws are to be enforced within. Visions of refreshment in companiable company dissipate and one walks on.

    Let’s sum up with a motto in cod Latin

    Plebian Publius-Goerus Infectus

    [That’s more Sturgeon Latin, rather than cod Latin]

    Our Boris is more a fan of the Greek

    Taxus to Helles Spartan Futura Nickos Tenpercent Argos Ocado Homer Deliverum

    My deepest apologies to true classicists.

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  11. Fedup2 says:

    Telegraph reports that 66 Tory MPs have written to Lord Hall of Tuscany asking for explanation as to why pensioners over 75 will have to pay the licence or face criminality – why can’t savings be made through management as opposed to assigning £100 million to “diversity ” . “diversity is defined as giving coloured people overpaid non jobs”

    what do they spend £100 million on? 1st Class to the West Indies and the ‘stans ?

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  12. StewGreen says:

    “Calling all libmob/wokemob drop what you are doing
    and come to Twitter to post something hatey about #BorisBaby”
    …. is that how the call went ?
    …. These people’s behaviour is poisonous and sow division.

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  13. infoquest says:

    Sorry if I missed it elsewhere

    Nante Cathedral – 39 year old man from Rawanda arrested.

    https://nos.nl/artikel/2341156-medewerker-verhoord-na-brand-in-kathedraal-nantes.html

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  14. StewGreen says:

    Michael Holding great cricketer, but today’s woke world, means he is allowed to spout crap and no one dare challenge him
    Not on the prog nor barely 40,000 people on Twitter who posted positive comments.

    I thought what he said about the Central Park woman was fishy.
    but then he starts telling people in England that we all believe Edison invented the electric light bulb, but heartlessly ignore that “Lewis Howard Latimer a black man INVENTED the carbon filament that keeps it shining so long today”
    FFS most of us know Joseph Swan did most of the legwork and got world patents, so Edison then partnered with him.
    AFAIK Latimer was a good man who was a patent expert and in 1882 got a patent for a particular manufacturing process for carbon filaments.
    People probably made great use of it, but then after a few years people switched to tungsten filaments used for 90 years before the newer tech of the last 25 years.

    Then Holding told us that Judas is portrayed as black
    ..that can’t be too common cos I’ve never heard of it.

    He kept saying people are brainwashed, but this
    ‘blacks really invented everything’
    is the kind of mindset you get from people overpushing Black History Month.

    … Second tweet from SkyNews ..similar tweets were done from ESPN etc

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    • StewGreen says:

      Sky the next day went back to try to get
      “TV gold”
      but got him saying there was black on black prejudice within his own family

      “My mother’s family stopped talking to her because her husband was too dark.
      “I know what they went through, and that came back to me immediately,” Holding said, wiping tears from his eyes.

      He also spoke about times he faced racism over the years, including when he and his white friend were assumed to not be booking into a hotel together in South Africa.

      https://news.sky.com/story/michael-holding-breaks-down-on-camera-discussing-racism-12025124

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      • StewGreen says:

        John Barnes tweeted about it Jul 11
        Love Michael holding.. good friend… speak regularly
        … did u HEAR what he said about his parents?
        Mums family didn’t speak to her because she married his dad who was TOO dark..
        his mum is also BLACK
        … does the idea of racial superiority ONLY affect white people, NO
        we need to examine and dismantle we as black people ALSO feel about the negative perception of blackness
        which some of us have also been conditioned UNCONCIOUSLY to feel

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    • NotSure says:

      I’ve always questioned the authenticity of Sir Frank Whittle’s claims. Courtesy of BLM/BBC persuasion I’m now confident that the jet engine was invented in Somalia, not Coventry.

      Or some sh1t like dat.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        I possess a copy of Wittgenstein’s plans for a jet engine which he made as an engineering student in Manchester Univ, in 1905. Before Whittle and O’Hain. The engine had a few problems but it did fly helicopters in WW2.

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        • NotSure says:

          The Focke-Angelis era? Superb GFW. I have a love of chopper history, but my personal working experience doesn’t extend beyond VC-10’s. C130’s and Andovers. Some other’s here and there but nothing of significance.

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  15. Guest Who says:

    Again Lewis pens War and Peace on twitter to impartially report on an ideological foe.

    Has he got pictures of Fran in bed with Jeremy Clarkson?

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  16. Fedup2 says:

    Blimey he really swallowed the book didn’t he ? Is he sponsored by Harry Ramsden ? Bloody hell what a chip .

    Do you notice how he refers to another incident in America . I’d had enough after 2 minutes . What a disgrace .

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  17. Guest Who says:

    Will the bbc be able to field enough editors to keep up when next she blows by?

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Guest Who

      Our Greta is a bit young to lay into G and T as she does at the end of her philosophical address.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        GWF typical foreigner – no ice no lemon …. looks like triples though .. I remember drinking triple G&Ts .. actually ..I don’t …just the bar bill …

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      • Guest Who says:

        Her delivery is very Nixonian.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Ah to be young again …I think she might have discovered Boys / Girls / horses…

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    • taffman says:

      She gets an open chair for her voice, never engages in debate and is never challenged. She is placed on a pedestal like some holy guru holding the worlds wisdom.

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  18. Guest Who says:

    BBC Editorial Guidelines foundation policy.

    https://dilbert.com/strip/2020-07-19?

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  19. Fedup2 says:

    Guest – I think in those quiet moments even intelligent perceptive men like dr Goebells was amazed at how ready a mass of people were ready to believe lies ….

    .. we have an even bigger challenge because of the constant feed of information and events making it difficult ( for some or many ) to see through the lies ….

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  20. AsISeeIt says:

    BBC: ‘Coronavirus: ‘Almost half’ of Blackburn Covid-19 contacts not reached’

    Here we go, sounds like bash Boris time folks

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53463068

    ‘A leaked report, seen by the Independent, suggested that fewer than half of contacts were reached in Oldham, St Helens, Manchester and Rochdale.’

    So that’s egg on the face for Boris, right?

    ‘It later emerged that the Jamia Ghosia mosque in Blackburn said it is being investigated by the police and public health officials after holding a funeral on 13 July, attended by 250 people.’

    ‘The Imam has since tested positive for coronavirus and is recovering.’

    ‘The mosque has emailed its congregation advising everybody to self-isolate and said it “made a mistake” in allowing more than the officially-permitted 30 mourners to attend.’

    Oooops, this is heading way off message.

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  21. Fedup2 says:

    Im outraged – ive just seen the manu manager at the start of a footy game not take the knee ! Is this still legal ? Is he a racist ? The BBC commentator failed to condemn him ! The BBC is racist !

    ( isnt it hot ?)

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    • Luckyharry69 says:

      @Fed
      Youve had a drink havent you….admit it….(lol)

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Lucky – I’m steeling myself to put up the next thread … and I’m a few hours ahead of UK time at the moment …

        Never drink , or admit to drinking , if engaging the internet ….

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  22. G.W.F. says:

    I see Marr’s tough guy no nonsense approach to the Chinese Ambassador over his tretmwnt of the Moslems gains approval.
    Farage tells us
    This is exactly what public service broadcasting should be about.

    Are these guys the good moslems?

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  23. Zelazek says:

    Being interested in religious matters, I optimistically turned on R4 this morning for “Sunday”, not having listened to this once-interesting, now woke garbage programme for some time. I never learn. First item was Racism Within The Methodist Church. A black minister was producing the evidence for this: During his training some white person told him he was not a good communicator. But he was, he protested aggressively. He was “very articulate”. “Things has got to change,” was his conclusion about the huge problem of Racism Within The Methodist Church. Off button.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      Almost every program gets around to one of thier propaganda topics – sooner or later.
      One on R4 today about full stops dots in grammar and music, seemed to escape.
      A rarity!

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  24. taffman says:

    “Channel migrants: Five boats carrying 65 migrants intercepted”
    Intercepted = ferried across.
    IMHO our government are complicit. Have they done a secret deal with France to empty the camps in Calais ?
    The main reason the nation voted for Brexit was to stop this happening. Will you believe the Tory Party ever again?

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    • G.W.F. says:

      taffman
      Is there a secret deal? Have these men of military age served Britain’s government in some way and are now being rewarded?

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    • Lord Blagger says:

      Almost certainly. I FOI’d the home office. Apart from the refusal to release the telephone number of their FOI or complaint’s department, its pretty clear what’s going on.

      So I asked for the meeting minutes with the French over the channel. No, you are a pleb, you aren’t allowed to know

      We are being stitched up. It’s the home office that’s at fault. P Patel needs to sort them out

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    • Lord Blagger says:

      Almost certainly. I FOI’d the home office. Apart from the refusal to release the telephone number of their FOI or complaint’s department, its pretty clear what’s going on.

      So I asked for the meeting minutes with the French over the channel. No, you are a pleb, you aren’t allowed to know

      We are being stitched up. It’s the home office that’s at fault. P Patel needs to sort them out

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  25. Guest Who says:

    OT, but…

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Guest Who

      Perhaps the Government of Ghana might allow them to return with slaves. There are many white guilt ridden liberals who might be willing to take up the challenge.

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    • StewGreen says:

      When I lived in Ghana the average salary was £1 /month
      cos the value of their currency was so low to ours
      so of course everything was dirt cheap
      that would be an incentive to live there
      .. if you were naive about the massive prevalence of malaria, AIDS, and other diseases and the super sweaty climate.

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    • NotSure says:

      Black Americans?

      Resettle?

      So Africans then, not Americans Channel 4.

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