447 Responses to Midweek Thread 8 July 2020

  1. Oaknash says:

    I always feel a little bit guilty not posting much here anymore – but I really cannot stand listening to the BBC R4 with its relentlessly, white hating, woke BS.

    However today as I was driving a fair bit I weakened apart from the normal anti white anti Trump bull I think they were running possibly some sort of consumer programme (I could only stand 5 mins worth) and were (I think) covering interest free loans.

    The scandal in question was the story of an 18 year old internet “influencer” who took out an interest free loan loan to buy a 500 quid handbag. She got in debt over this. Boo Hoo and as the concerned presenter said is it right that 18 year olds were being given these sort of loans?

    The other upsetting aspect was (according to the girl) that this hand bag she was still paying for would not be fashionable after a year or so but she would still be paying for it – I must admit I shed a few tears for her, poor darling and then I remembered 76 years ago some 18 year olds were travelling through France getting maimed and burnt alive in tanks to fight for the right of this stupid girl to complain that it is someone else,s fault that she is in debt.

    Why do the BBC think anyone actually cares about this?

    When I hear this sort of self absorbed bilge – just sometimes I wonder whether just maybe these utterly self absorbed youngsters deserve what will be coming their way if the left finally prevail.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Oak – have you got any more details about this poor girl ? We must set up a crowdfunding thingy to keep her in cash for the rest of her life so that she can buy a new £500 handbag every year .isnt it terrible how the government treats 18 year old . ?

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      • Oaknash says:

        Fe2 they definitely get a bad deal, and remember its all our fault too that they cant afford to buy their own houses. Everyone knows regular foreign holidays and designer fashion wear are the essential priority when you should be saving for a house.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Oak
          Im sure they wouldnt want to know that i flogged myself to death when i was 18 raising enough money for the deposit to buy my first house . And paying obscene interest rates …

          As for posting here – oak – im in an even trickier position because im moderating but have excluded almost all BBC output from my life . It is possible and the result is reduced distress .

          I used to listen to the Today programme out of duty to witness the bias here but i couldnt take it any more .

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          • Charlie Farley says:

            Fedup2
            That takes me back when I was earning £1 an hour as fully qualified engineer…….and thought wow what am I going to spend it all on !
            Wasted it all on Girls and drink until Marriage and first house for £7.000 ….kids today don’t know how lucky they are….yes that old chestnut !

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          • Deborah says:

            I too now listen or watch very little BBC, so little that Mr D has decided not to renew our license. But I occasionally succumb to Radio 4 when working in the kitchen, and only need a couple of minutes listening before I have something to post here. And then the off button is used.

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          • Oaknash says:

            Fe2 – Same here
            Listening to the BBC these days (I gave up the telly years ago because the left wing bias) makes me feel like an adult watching a child slowly pull the legs off a Daddy Long Legs but not being allowed to do anything about it.
            You feel sullied and tainted by the whole experience.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Oak, it interests me how individuals in our society are becoming separated from any personal responsibility at all. You only have to look at items on the BBC web-site or at the tasters on the front pages of newspapers to see that it is largely the media doing this.

      eg. ‘Do I need a TV Licence and what does it pay for?’
      ‘Coronavirus in Scotland: what can we do, and when?’
      are just two of the current ones on the BBC site. There are usually far more of these sort of things on the BBC w-s all encouraging people to stop thinking and become mere dependents.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        The BBC bears a lot of responsibility for the state intervention in all aspects of life now . Its that tired old thing about frogs in water being heated .. a gradual process so that personal responsibility is gone – no one is qualified to judge anothers conduct ( except for ‘ right wing stuff ) and someone else is always to blame . Add that to the fetish to ban or regulate as well as the ever long list of ‘ vulnerable ‘ and its a national socialist state .

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      • Oaknash says:

        Snuff – part of the “success ” of the BBC has been to encourage government policies that have divided us as a nation (such as migration) and have wrested any feeling from us that we have the power to influence events or politics (such as presiding over the political destruction of parties and individuals such as Gerard Batten, Katy Hopkins and Tommy Robinson who do still actually give a toss)

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Oak, yes – BBC plus Blair, Mandelson and Brown.

          Maybe Covid-19 will change all that?

          It was noticeable on TOADY this morning (Friday) although foreign holidays are now permitted, that apparently the F&CO will advise that cruises are to be avoided. I think people will shy away from venturing abroad unless young and determined to have that Ibiza holiday of a lifetime.

          Lockdowns – no one allowed in or out do seem to work.

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    • JimS says:

      I thought these ‘influencers’ expect to be given stuff for free?

      Some are like the Mafia, “Nice coffee shop you’ve got here mate, it would be a pity if my ‘followers’ got to hear anything bad about it. How about a couple of free Horchata Frappes?”

      Another side of ‘cancel culture’.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Yep, ‘influencing’ the ultimate money for doing sod all, if they cant make it on reality tv.

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  2. digg says:

    Channel 4 news taking up the slack while the BBC have a rest.

    Evening news run:

    Item 1. Vigorous attack on horrid Trump by a vitriolic Trump hater over his tax returns.

    Item 2. Black lady “poet” denouncing the horrid white racists in largely sparse black rural England.

    Item 3. Attack on the horrid populist party agenda in Poland because they are for “normal” nuclear families.

    Item 4. Attack on Social Media companies for not banning what they see as right wing opinions.

    Item 5. Attack on owners of horrid stately homes in England. Jon Snow like a nodding dog to BAME professor of course.

    I have no idea who watches this shit day after day other than the BBC.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      tem 2. Black lady “poet” denouncing the horrid white racists in largely sparse black rural England.

      This so called poet read her lousy poem on BBC 6.30 pm local news. Crapy poem, maudlin and disrespectful to decent country folk.
      They need poets like her in many other countries.

      As for the Ch4 attack on Trump, it occurs usually within 30 mins of programme

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  3. Fedup2 says:

    Excellent news – police watch dog to investigate racial discrimination practices in the police . It will recommend that all police should be coloured and that coloured people be excluded from stop and search or arrest . Handcuffs and stun guns will only be used on non coloured people . BBC must be exstatic.

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  4. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #2 – more obfuscation

    The BBC have changed the way the information on the local look-up list for Covid-19 is presented. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

    I find this more than a little suspicious. The BBC love to point fingers at various bits of social media and ‘fact check’ them or dismiss them as presenting false information but they are happy to do their own share of obfuscation and ‘muddying the waters’. And WHO do it as well, with various Covid stories, one this week on possible air and wind transmission of the Covid-19 virus, on the efficacy of face masks, on whether it is a SARS virus, etc..

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Up2snuff
      To me the WHO are nothing more than a Communist outfit bent on destroying Capitalism. Am I mistaken?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Lefty, WHO certainly extract enough dosh from the larger economies that helps to drain them dry, just like the UN and a others.

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      • Jeff says:

        Lefty, I don’t think you are mistaken at all. From where I’m standing they seem intent on turning most western economies into Venezuela.
        And every time the government suggests even the most modest easing of the lockdown/mass imprisonment, someone from the WHO or SAGE appears and tells us gravely that “There could be severe consequences.” People have become hypnotised by this guff.

        The WHO did nothing to warn the world about this virus when it was running rampant in China. Indeed they told us it wouldn’t spread. They’re either incompetent or corrupt. Trump is absolutely right!

        And our own SAGE have been instructing the government from day one, so they’ve got to be at least partially responsible for the suicidal lunacy of returning the elderly and the sick to care homes…to save the NHS.

        If it hadn’t been for the lockdown the rest of the insanity we’re seeing on our streets and sports venues wouldn’t have gained traction. Our economy is on its knees, Marxists are running rampant and the authorities are either complying or pathetically complacent.

        Usually I favour the cock up over the conspiracy theory.
        But this time I’m really not sure.
        Something stinks…

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        • BRISSLES says:

          Here’s one to get your nose around Jeff, a little paragraph tucked away in the D/Mail a week ago – a couple of herdsmen in rural China have been diagnosed with …….. Bubonic Plague. Didn’t Corona start off as being a little something out of nothing ???

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  5. vlad says:

    Dickless Dick does what she’s best at: apologising.

    “Scotland Yard chief Cressida Dick apologises to Bianca Williams for ‘distress’ caused by ‘racially profiled’ stop-and-search.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8501657/Scotland-Yard-chief-apologises-Bianca-Williams-distress-caused-racially-profiled-stop.html

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      vlad
      It’s time to commit a criminal offense and replace the Dick with someone who strongly identifies as a white, heterosexual male.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Next commissioner must be coloured and preferably female – i dont think white guys are fashionable at thr moment ….

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  6. vlad says:

    As usual Douglas Murray offers a brilliant analysis of current events and trends, including the Prince and Princess of Wokedom, cancel culture, national self-hatred, and Trump’s brilliant 4th of July speech – totally ignored or derided by the BBC and the msm.

    Much of it applicable to the UK.

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      Unfortunately it is not going to go away as Douglas Murray thinks. It has been embedded into society. It was created in the universities and has long spread into the schools, mainstream media, politics, and laws. Mass immigration has also changed and will change society permanently. We can attack the BBC for its obvious bias and the politicians for not doing anything about it because the BBC is publicly funded. But we also need to shed light into other publicly funded or publicly underwritten institutions such as the schools and the universities.

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      • taffman says:

        The schools are encouraging as many kids as they can to go to universities. There are more applications this year than ever. Their parents are so happy that their “thickos” are even getting a place in “yooney” they are pleased to push them despite the financial consequences. Hopefully some of the urchin’s mates will flash the money they get by starting work as soon as they leave school and get apprenticeships?

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        • JimS says:

          Even in the days of ‘the few’ going to university it was arguable that it wasn’t necessarily the best careeer choice.

          As a young graduate I was competing with more of the same and the rungs above were already filled by ‘smart’ people.

          One of our managers had a son of similar age as me but he was a manager too. He had joined the company aged 16. He had worked in a section full of married women, they were only in it for ‘pin money’ and didn’t want promotion, so he became their supervisor and so on. He had a six-year start on young graduates and was seen as a ‘big picture’ generalist with a clear route to MD, unlike those narrow-minded specialist graduates!

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  7. Guest Who says:

    BBC speaking at the nation.

    The nation speaks back.

    #CCBGB

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  8. Darcy3 says:

    ‘Tories put cost on BBC’

    Kuenssberg shifts blame as Dowden grilled over TV license fee

    BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg grilled culture minister Oliver Dowden over the broadcaster’s decision to scrap the free TV licence for the over-75s as she shifted the blame onto the Government.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1307391/bbc-licence-fee-Laura-Kuenssberg-oliver-dowden-free-TV-licence-over-75s?utm_source=spotim&utm_medium=spotim_recirculation

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    • taffman says:

      Bet she is facing a huge redundancy pay out ? Enough for her and her cronies to retire.

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  9. Darcy3 says:

    ‘Lowest in Europe!’ Nicola Sturgeon’s ‘staggering’ COVID-19 failures exposed
    NICOLA STURGEON has been criticised for her failures during the COVID-19 pandemic as the Scottish Conservative leader Jackson Carlaw revealed travellers returning to Scotland were not tested and that the nation had one of “the lowest testing performance records than any country in Europe”.

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  10. Darcy3 says:

    ITV GMB viewers rage at ‘utterly clueless’ Labour Shadow Chancellor in furious backlash
    LABOUR Shadow Chancellor Anneliese Dodds left Good Morning Britain (GMB) viewers distinctly unimpressed as she tried to attack Rishi Sunak’s new economic policies but failed to produce satisfactory answers on what she would do in the position when pressed.

    One user tweeted: “I’ve just looked at the wiki page for Anneliese Dodds and she has never held a job in the Finance sector and the only job she had before becoming an MP was a university lecturer. Do we really think the role of Shadow Chancellor is appropriate for someone like this?”

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Darcy,
      When I saw her I thought it was Ken Dodds.
      (Or his love child)

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  11. taffman says:

    “No10 has nominated five Tory MPs to Parliament’s powerful Intelligence and Security Committee (ISC).”
    “Former minister Chris Grayling is expected to be appointed as its chair.”

    Would you trust him with “intelligence” ?

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  12. StewGreen says:

    BBC Sandford is learning , but not Sky
    Re 4 Islamist terror arrests in east London & Leicestershire.

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  13. Fedup2 says:

    Just remember – ‘far right terrorism ‘ is the biggest threat …..

    The met Commissioner has issued an apology just to be on the safe side ..

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  14. StewGreen says:

    Liverpool
    Large Police cordon in place on Cairns St in #Toxteth, after a woman seen with a knife was shot by armed Police.

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Glasgow ongoing incident
    Residents reported seeing officers with machine guns at the Glasgow Harbour Terraces near Partick on Thursday evening

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    • taffman says:

      Al Beeb news website on all these incidents so far ………- Nowt .

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      • StewGreen says:

        too busy running the good news
        “BBC News – Glasgow hotel stabbing victim forgives attacker”

        Met Police probationary officer charged with neo-Nazi terror offence
        Probationary officer Benjamin Hannam 21 has been charged with being a member of far-right group National Action
        (Hannam name derives from a place called Hanham in Gloucestershire )

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        • taffman says:

          Still nowt on Al Beeb’s website other than the arrest of a neo-Nazi policeman ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Glasgow was “three firing paintball guns.”

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Are you going to take any proper action BBC management ?
    You are stuck in a pattern of falling licences
    .. You’ve lost half a million
    and maybe you think you’ll pick up 3 million licences from the over 75s

    What if they feel that “funding the BBC = Funding hatey London lefties” ?

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  17. StewGreen says:

    BBC Iran news

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  18. StewGreen says:

    Mohiussunnath Chowdhury A terrorist who planned attacks on Madame Tussaud’s and a Pride Parade has been locked up for a minimum of 25 years.
    29-year-old former Uber driver from Luton

    Nothing obvious on BBC
    cept his arrest in February when they called him a “takeaway worker”

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    • Jeff says:

      Come on, let’s be fair.
      We shouldn’t rush to judge.
      After all…
      He was a “largely peaceful” terrorist.

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  19. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    Just seen a youtube video of Lewis Hamilton saying he feels he can split his time equally between fighting for the 2020 Formula One Championship and fighting for his human rights.

    I mean if he doesn’t think he has equal human rights then he must be well and truly brainwashed.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      BoBotC

      You are aware that Lewis Hamilton aspires to be a racing car driver? But he is not allowed to, simply because of the colour of his skin. Systemic racism means that black people are not allowed to race cars, play golf, play tennis or, say, be over-represented by a factor of ten as Premier League football players. These are the everyday human rights that BLM and the BBC are striving to achieve.

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  20. taffman says:

    What puzzles me is why the Tory government drag their feet in ending Al Beeb. They have every reason to do so. We are facing an economic tsunami, more and more people are not paying the telly tax, Al Beeb is blatant Anti-Tory , there are more alternatives available and it is so biased. Why the delay? We need a new prime minister, someone like Churchill not Chamberlain.

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    • Oaknash says:

      Because they are afraid of not just the BBC but the whole “woke” media. They are afraid of losing their appearance fees , their post political career jobs and are just “afraid”

      The modern Tory party is infected with a type of “Stockholm syndrome” and has come to both love and loathe its attackers in equal measures and in so doing has shown dislike for the electorate who vote for them , but which most Tories will not want to live next to.

      The whole party is dominated by dysfunctional cowards and we , the electorate will be the losers. As we are slowly over governed into global irrelevance.

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      • LynetteO says:

        Chris Froome top British cyclist , 4 x winner of the tour de France is leaving British cycling to join the Israeli Start Up Nation cycling team. On the World service this morning BBoid Matthew Kenyon announced that this is the big news of the day. But did he say where he is going ? Of course not, otherwise they would have to mention the ” I” county in a positive way. Top British cyclist leaves for Israel ! The BBoids inflated egos must be well and truly punctured. On your bike BBC !

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Not much difference between the BBC and the others and the Tory MPs are afraid of them

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  21. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning Emole

    ***

    We’ve scaled back our wedding to 200 people’

    “We’ve always pictured having the big, fat Indian wedding,” say Vishal Panesar and his fiancee Ravika Sabh, almost in unison. Like thousands of couples, Londoners Vishal, 25, and Ravika, 24, had to postpone their wedding after the coronavirus pandemic struck.

    It was meant to be a lavish affair with three separate events and 400 guests. But current measures imposed on weddings and gatherings mean the prospects of a big blowout are slim. Vishal and Ravika have cut down their guest list but are still keen to see whether a wedding with more than 30 guests is possible.

    Read full analysis >

    Sheetal Parmar
    BBC Asian Network

    ****
    Whilst one needs to accept such divisions created by the bbc are exempt from diversity, it is noticeable few such awesome examples of reporting by any whose names originate further East.

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  22. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    As the UK eases out of its Covid-19 lockdown, nitrogen vehicle emissions look to be going back up.

    ***

    When bbc ‘news’ shorthand meets science.

    Carbon is not CO2.

    Nitrogen is a pretty large chunk of every breath we take.

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  23. Guest Who says:

    Amol the merrier.

    Going well so far.

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  24. AsISeeIt says:

    New day, new news?

    Not really. The BBC celebrates BLM

    BBC: ‘..how did it go from a social media post to a global phenomenon…’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53273381

    Errr, let me think… obsessive wall to wall coverage from our national broadcaster might have helped it kick off here in the UK.

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  25. tomo says:

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      You’ve got to like her entry on Wikipedia. She’s described as “an American activist, writer, and advocate for social justice and prisoners’ rights”. Yeah, that sounds about right. Give her a show on the BBC or CNN and we can all shout ‘Bingo!”.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rosenberg

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  26. tomo says:

    I wonder when Susan is going to find time to guest edit R4 Today?

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  27. AsISeeIt says:

    Parlez-vous BBC?

    In BBC parlance certain politicians U-turn and others ‘put an end to speculation’

    See here this report on the golden Euroboy Macron

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-53357792

    ‘The spire of Notre Dame cathedral, which was destroyed in a fire last April, will be restored according to the original Gothic design.’

    ‘Mr Macron had previously hinted he was in favour of a “contemporary gesture”.’

    Well, good for him. I’m in favour of the conservative approach of restoring the traditional look.

    Pity the BBC can’t truthfully describe their boy’s U-turn.

    You have to admire the sheer cheek of his excuses for this change of heart…

    Le prétexte

    ‘…he has said he wants the restoration to be completed by 2024, when Paris is hosting the Olympics.’

    ‘…the process of designing a modern spire, with an international competition for architects, could have caused unnecessary delays.’

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  28. Fedup2 says:

    Do you notice that when the police arrest a certain type of terrorist ( suspect(s) ) it ‘goes quiet ‘ on the MSM … yet when another type of Terrorist is arrested of a type they don’t like they never stop about it .?

    They must be terrified that they are arresting too many of one type and not enough of the other – the ‘Far Right’ type .

    A similar practice goes on with paedophiles . The MSM will happily crow about some whitee teacher or vicar caught sinning and give full sordid details … yet get a gang of Pakistani Muslim racist paedophiles charged / convicted and you’ll find out about it by accident before it disappears into ‘other local news ‘. Funny that

    The footage of the arrest of a ‘suspect ‘ in downtown goodmayes – ilford ….Up the road from me that TR helpfully put on Parler says it all really – cops with lots of guns and a ‘happy apology ‘ card signed by the fool in charge of the Met .

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  29. AsISeeIt says:

    ‘Trump taxes: Supreme Court says New York prosecutors can see records’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53353953

    Ok, rub your hands in anticipation, Lefties. But think for a moment… might potential dream ticket Democrat Presidential runners Michelle Obama or Oprah Winfrey be enocouraged or discouraged at the notion that their private tax affairs would one day be revealed to the world?

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  30. G.W.F. says:

    Battle of Britain anniversary today. 80 years. Vera Lynn’s funeral today. Bound to be mentioned on the BBC when they can attribute the heroism to BAMES and Moslems.

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  31. Up2snuff says:

    Up early enough to unconsciously switch radio on to catch end of Farming Today on R4. Or as I prefer to think of it, Framing Today as there always seems to be a ‘narrative’, a message, some propaganda to propagate in neat little rows of early morning minds.

    Presenter today was Caz Graham. Talk about dim! She makes a broken 40w incandescent bulb in the trash can seem like a 250w Photoflood. Dim Dierdre was the Editor and Beatrice tried to bring some beauty to the whole pathetic production.

    Toward the end of the programme, Caz was wringing her hands over grassland. That wicked Tory Government was going to build houses everywhere, those nice environmentalists were going to plant trees everywhere and the farmers would be expected to feed everyone while they build, plant and farm. No mention of the reasons why the countryside is under such pressure. Well Caz, if those BAME people don’t like the countryside ” ‘cos its racist innit ” why not turn it into urban?

    No. Caz brings on a Professor to explain how grassland sequesters carbon. “Almost as much as a young tree.” Something has got to give but poor old Caz and Dierdre cannot work out what it should be.

    Ummmmhhh?

    I count it fortunate that Caz & Dierdre did not have to reconcile the land use required to support a vegan diet that the IPCC want everyone to have with all the other competing demands of housing, treeplanting, farming and grasslands.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Funny how the BBC is populated by people called ‘ caz’ or ‘monty’ or ‘libby’….. or ‘toenails’…

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    • JimS says:

      Come on! You must know the answer by now!

      More money!

      The BBC’s universal solution.

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  32. theisland says:

    Today marks the 80th anniversary of the start of the Battle of Britain.

    The Battle of Britain Memorial Trust is crowdfunding to help upkeep the National Memorial to the Few in Kent and to keep teaching young people about this important part of our history.

    https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/save-the-national-memorial-to-the-few
    (Thanks to those who contributed last time I mentioned this).

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  33. Guest Who says:

    BBC off on essential trips again. And quite the raft of BBC editorial weasels with it.

    ***

    “We are going backwards, not forwards.”

    Poland has been called the worst country in the EU for LGBT rights. The BBC’s Ben Hunte visited so-called ‘LGBT-free’ zones in the country, and explored what life is like for gay people living there, and spoke to others who have left. bbc.in/3ebhR11

    ***
    So they have a gay guy on ‘gay’ stuff, and Pakistanis on ‘Asian‘ stuff… so why did they have a music teacher on Economics and how is Harrabin still getting science wrong?

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    • Beltane says:

      Harrabin’s degree in English, while proving like all degrees that he can memorise facts and regurgitate them – though even this is made immeasurably easier by the internet – yet is still far from the best basis for understanding and producing relevant scientific data.
      Like so many BBC employment factors, any degree of any level outweighs its subject or application – without which parameter staff levels would drop dramatically.
      Blair’s ‘Uni For All’ was always more concerned with massaging employment figures than a meaningful education.

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  34. G says:

    Amazing!
    The BBC’s Mr Sopel was marched out on Toady earlier to explain why Biden will win in the US election come November. In, what was a totally incomprehensible rant for some minutes, Sopel explained to those listeners who do not keep abreast of more accurate and undistorted news on the web, why Biden’s pre-election strategy is working. According to Sopel, Biden has locked himself away from contact with the voters. He holds no Press Conferences or rallies. A really winning strategy? ‘Yes’ say’s Sopel. Just goes to prove, beyond any question, that Sopel is mentally deranged.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      G
      Yes I was wondering about the ‘ keep Biden away from anyone ‘ tactic – which no doubt the MSM consider completely reasonable – unlike the decision not to put the current PM in front of the last proper journalist inquisitor….

      Can American politics operate that way ? Is there an inevitable meeting on camera between he and President Trump ?
      The footage turning on social media of Biden lost for coherent words suggests his dementia is progressing quickly -and even a friendly media will have to recognise it eventually . I’ve put another 50p on mrs Obama to get either the vice or full full nomination . I would be grateful to be told why this won’t happen …

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      • JimS says:

        I think the rules for presidential candidates might vary between the different states.

        Those for Texas are here.

        I might be wrong but it is too late for a main party to change its candidate and an independent would have needed nearly 90,000 signatures by 11 May 2020 under the rules in Texas.

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  35. AsISeeIt says:

    Threats to women

    BBC: ‘The health minister has apologised to hundreds of women, and their children and families, failed by healthcare professionals after expressing concerns about medical treatments.’

    Any Ministerial apology in the offing here…?

    Cressida Plod, anything you want to say sorry about…?

    ‘Aman Vyas trial: Defendant ‘attacked vulnerable women at night”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53324354

    ‘Aman Vyas, 35, is charged with the rape and murder of Michelle Samaraweera in Walthamstow, east London, in May 2009.’

    ‘Mr Vyas was extradited from India in October 2019 to face charges against four women in total.’

    ‘In Spring 2009 Mr Vyas turned the area around his Walthamstow home into a “hunting ground” for a “series of violent rapes”, Tom Little QC, prosecuting, said.’

    ‘Mr Vyas “would go out prowling in the early hours of the morning, looking for lone women on whom he could prey’

    ‘Mr Vyas had evaded justice for more than a decade as he left the UK weeks after the last attack, the court heard.’

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  36. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – the large greyish quadropod filling a corner of the studio

    I listened to TOADY beyond the first look at the newspapers and there was consideration of the plight of Arizona, USA, which is suffering a huge spike in Covid-19 infections. It is put down to young people celebrating and partying when the initial Pandemic Lockdown was eased there.

    No attempt to ask the really big question: is Covid-19 all about trying to ensure President Trump loses the Presidency in November 2020?

    No attempt to ask the next big question: will all the infections of young people work against the Democratic Party, assuming that even in a southern State, the young people will be more inclined to vote democrat and less inclined to vote Republican?

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  37. Fedup2 says:

    Have they started to commentate on whether more democrats or republicans are dying from the Chinese virus ? – in that happy distasteful way some evil remainers wanted Brexiters to die off ?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, you would think the questions will have passed through so-called ‘intelligent and enquiring minds’ at the BBC, wouldn’t you?

      What do we know? Last year, President Trump (depending on who you listen to) started a Trade War with China or endeavoured to be protectionist against China or sought to claw back some of what had been given away in terms of US manufacturing and US jobs to China by previous Administrations.

      Then came the virus.

      Because of the American electoral cycle, everyone knew that from summer/autumn 2019, the Democratic Party at least would be wrapped up in Primaries, to find a contender to set against President Trump if the incumbent decided to run. The campaign itself would dominate most months from late winter 2020 all the way to the start of winter 2020/21 and the Election.

      Then came the virus.

      From Brazil, where a so-called Populist and so-called Right Winger won an election in a continent racked and wrecked by failed economies in large or oil-rich countries through to Europe where similar victories occurred, there has been a swing away from Socialism to liberal conservatism or much firmer Conservatism.

      Then came the virus.

      Coincidence?

      Pure chance?

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  38. Venutius says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/history/slavery_1.shtml

    Let’s start with a paradox.

    The BBC enlightens us that Islamic slavery channelled slaves into various roles that eventually led to their Freedom. This ‘humanity’ led to freeing and integration and thus demand for more slaves.

    What a quaint paradox!

    The BBC goes on to describe how Islam has a moderating influence on slavery. Islam treated slaves as human beings as well as property and banned the mistreatment of slaves – Indeed the tradition repeatedly stresses the importance of treating slaves with kindness and compassion. There is a cursory mention of the Prophet and links to slavery, but only in the context of tradition within the religion.

    Unlike the Western slave trade, slavery in Islam was not wholly motivated by economics. Slaves could serve in the military apparently, elite service indeed! Even ‘young’ women could become concubines and some of these became powerful. Lucky them!

    Further examination warns us not to use misleading phrases such as ‘Islamic slavery’ and ‘Muslim slave trade’, even though slavery existed in many Muslim cultures at various times.

    The justification for this is the Atlantic slave trade is not called the Christian slave trade, despite the perpetrators being Christian.

    The slaver tradition continues even today in parts of Sub Saharan Africa.

    So, concubines, agricultural, military, building mining and domestic service were managed by slaves in relative peace and harmony. However,

    1. Owners are allowed to have sex with their female slaves
    2. Slaves cannot carry out some religious roles
    3. Slaves can have only limited authority
    4. Slaves cannot be witnesses in court
    5. Killing a slave does not carry the death penalty in most schools of Islamic law
    6. Slaves are punishable under Islamic law if they commit a crime.

    I consider myself a reasonably accomplished amateur historian. The BBC summary on Islamic slavery is the most slavish, bias, bastardised piece of historical nonsense I’ve ever read. To use titles like how ‘Islam Moderated Slavery’, ‘Slaves could be assimilated’ and ‘Slaves could achieve status’ is just not credible.

    There is no good and bad slavery. What the hell are the BBC doing here? Why such a sympathetic and non-judgemental piece on Islamic slavery?

    Of course we all know the answers, I thought I would simply share the bile to highlight what pollution is infiltrating young minds through this sinister Corporation.

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    • JimS says:

      David Starkey’s use of the ‘D-word’ I think was more directed at those modern ‘historians’ who seem to have overlooked the fact that slaves in America must have had some sort of ‘family life’ yet, strangely, those in the Middle East didn’t, rather than towards the descendants of the slaves.

      I expect the Middle East slaves were so busy taking advantage of the benefits of Islam that they never got around to having children.

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      • Banania says:

        They couldn’t have children owing to the jolly Islamic practice of castration. Hence no “damn blacks” in Arabia.

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    • G says:

      Venutius,
      “The BBC goes on to describe how Islam has a moderating influence on slavery. Islam treated slaves as human beings as well as property and banned the mistreatment of slaves – Indeed the tradition repeatedly stresses the importance of treating slaves with kindness and compassion. There is a cursory mention of the Prophet and links to slavery, but only in the context of tradition within the religion.”

      I recall watching the young muslim girls in Indonesia filing onto a 747 destined for Saudi Arabia, knowing that they were going into slavery. Having lived and worked in Saudi, I know that passports are taken away on arrival and never returned so leaving is no option.
      Personally, I find it sad, yet amusing how the current fad of condemning historic slavery does not extend to modern day by the current crop of Millennial Marxists. Hypocrites to a man. (sorry, ‘child’).

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Ven – quite simple – the waahabis have taken over the key roles in the organisation and exploiting the self hating snowflakes as their useful idiots to run the ‘Islam is good – everything else is bad ‘ narrative .

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  39. StewGreen says:

    Neil Oliver and Scotland’s cultural purge

    https://stephendaisley.com/2020/07/09/neil-oliver-and-scotlands-cultural-purge

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  40. StewGreen says:

    Mike Graham on TalkRadio
    “Right I am gonna say it, boycott the BBC
    .. if the BBC was a shop you’d put it out of business”

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  41. theisland says:

    The usual Limp/Lab suspects as far as I can see.

    https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2020/07/09/mps-and-peers-bid-to-save-politics-live-from-bbc-cutting-floor-after-axe-reports/

    More than 100 MPs and peers have united to demand the BBC protect its Politics Live programme from the axe as it looks to make savings following the Covid-19 shutdown.

    The cross-party band of 106 politicians have written to the publicly-owned broadcaster warning that dropping the topical issues show would “seriously harm the ability of the BBC to scrutinise and explain the consequences of policy announcements”.

    There’s that word “scrutinise” again.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Theisland – I think a bit of ‘appearance fee ‘ self interest might be in play here ….. it would be interesting how many of these bubble dwellers have appeared on these shows ….

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  42. StewGreen says:

    So BBC Sport tell me about “unconscious bias”

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  43. StewGreen says:

    Ester Krakue a black commentator talking sense on TalkRadio
    “..what’s with all these inquiries into establishment racism ?
    .. while they are looking at small issues, they miss big things like grooming gangs”

    Why don’t BBC commentators say things like that ?

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  44. theisland says:

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  45. SpinningReith says:

    Thanks to Venutius JULY 10, 2020 AT 9:59 AM

    “…The BBC goes on to describe how Islam has a moderating influence on slavery. Islam treated slaves as human beings as well as property and banned the mistreatment of slaves – Indeed the tradition repeatedly stresses the importance of treating slaves with kindness and compassion. …

    Unlike the Western slave trade, slavery in Islam was not wholly motivated by economics..”

    This does beg the question I’ve seen raised elsewhere; unlike the USA, Caribbean and south America why are there no black people in the Middle East?
    Could it be that all the male slaves were castrated ‘with kindness and compassion’?

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  46. Sluff says:

    The BBC want you to get out your hankies and support people subjected to racism by us whities and the heartless government.

    ‘UK born twins face deportation to different countries’ runs the BBC headline.

    They were born in West London to Caribbean parents with no right of residence. The mother died when they were 13 at which point the father returned to Dominica, leaving his kids behind.
    They were taken in to care by the taxpayer, sorry I mean Ealing Council.
    At the age of 17, one of them was sentenced to 6 years for GBH. He has been released. The brother is still in jail on a separate charge of GBH.
    Guess who is paying for all this, dear readers.

    Words absolutely fail me.
    The Far Left at the BBC and BLM would go apoplectic if they were deported. But no fear, the snowflakes, refugee council, civil servants et al won’t let it happen.
    When the Far Left talk about redistribution of wealth is this what they mean? And the idea that the father should have some responsibility is not even considered.

    Check it out
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53357889

    PS I gather schools and care homes are a bit short of cash.

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    • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

      It is desperate and in your face agenda pushing by the BBC. The BBC constantly distort, twist, mislead and downright lie in this constant attack against English and British culture and its people.

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    • Kaiser says:

      6 years for GBH that must have been one very serious beating or stabbing someone got

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  47. Fedup2 says:

    Sluff
    Not much gratitude from the imports being given safety and handouts . All the moaning but no one seems to go home to stay there ….

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  48. StewGreen says:

    So why aren’t Scunthorpe kids back at school ?
    Ah GTC Gypsy Traveller Community action.

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  49. Foscari says:

    I am writing this from my apartment in the Algarve in
    Portugal. According to Clive Myrie on the BBC TV
    news three days ago I am supposed to be in isolation.
    I have just returned after a swim in the sea after
    visiting the beach , one of the finest in Europe if
    not the world. I am afraid more fake news from the BBC,
    the national broadcaster” we can trust”
    So why has the BBC got it in for Portugal? We had just about
    the easiest transit through passport control in the fifty years
    we have been coming to Portugal, The UK’s oldest ally
    going back even further than the Napoleonic wars and fighting
    and dying with us in the First World War. And not’s let us
    forget who helped saved Boris Johnson’s life. Thank god the
    Portuguese nurse was not having to be in quarantine!
    I wonder could it be the BBC’S hatred of Israel? Portugal was
    the only country in Europe that allowed the USA’S planes
    to land on their territory , when they were replenishing Israel’s
    fast diminishing arms , whilst they were fighting for their
    lives in the Yom Kippur war in 1973.
    The Portuguese have been ten times more successful in
    managing the Chinese virus than us. There has been a flare up in Lisbon 125 miles away from us. But on the Algarve there have
    been very few deaths from the virus.
    The Portuguese have been wearing masks for weeks . Last night
    we had chicken piri -piri in the famous Ramires restaurant in
    Guia . The organization in the restaurant was perfect.
    Do not be put off by fake news from the BBC. It’s
    disgraceful how the British government and the BBC have treated
    Portugal. It’s worth the two weeks isolation , unless the government comes to its senses and revokes this injustice
    against Portugal. Portugal is the most hospital country in Europe.
    And I reiterate there is NO quarantine when you arrive in Portugal
    whatever the BBC says !

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Fos
      It’s good to know people are travelling . I’m out of the UK from Heathrow on Monday and going through the Pre flight admin that has to be done now . I’m wondering which will be the biggest hazard – travelling on the tube or on the plane ……

      As far as I can see bbc droids are so immersed in one form of Project Fear or another that they cannot be positive about anything apart from Marxism ( all in it together ) or their NHS , Green or Islamic Gods .

      It’s good that ‘defund the BBC ‘ is becoming common and every day now – it’s a shame thar even with an 80 majority the government just can’t take its ‘enemy on .

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