447 Responses to Midweek Thread 8 July 2020

  1. JimS says:

    Black nurses came to the UK to save the NHS?

    Back in the 1950s my aunt, a nurse, went to Canada. Her friend, a nurse, went to Africa.

    We must have had nurses to spare in those days.

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    • taffman says:

      People followed the money they did not emigrate to save the services of the country . Most sought a better life.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Catchup links to previous thread

      page 4 started 6:30pm Tuesday
      page 3 started 8am .. The exploding bus tweet etc.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      According to the BBC, Jim, doctors, especially, and some nurses – when qualified and having trained within the NHS – are still leaving the UK for New Zealand, Canada and Australia. This creates a shortage in the UK which then leads our NHS to rob qualified and trainee doctors and qualified nurses from poorer countries.

      You would think the BBC would be totally against this New Imperialism and the damage it causes to the health systems of poorer countries.

      You would think.

      But no.

      They seem to be quite happy and content with it.

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      • The Sage says:

        Yes, I believe that Malawi (one of the world’s poorest countries and one I know quite well) almost ran out of local nurses at one time and due emigration to the UK and to work for the NHS.

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Sorry Jim but your story just does not support today’s Socialist agenda.
      By the way the NHS will ALWAYS be underfunded because the Marxist will say so until Capitalism is defeated. The same may well be true of the deadly?? Corvid19
      The problem is that Marxism just means Capitalism for the few at the top with no chance of the lowly free thinking working man ever joining their ranks.
      Perhaps I ought not post my comments on this site as I stopped viewing our, so called, National Broadcaster years ago due to their obvious anti British bias.

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  2. Dobyns says:

    Sod the facts or truth, the narrative is all important

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  3. Dave Hedgehog says:

    Black voices you’ll never hear on the BBC. Put’s it better than anyone I’ve heard so far:

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    • smoogie7 says:

      The BBC and the left don’t like it when black people don’t toe the line. They do it with all minorities

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  4. Fedup2 says:

    “Yeah but he ain’t really black is he ? He’s just saying what whitee wants him to say . He doesn’t know any better … “I can hear it now ……. but it’s good to hear that there is still sanity around ……

    Pretty impressive if he delivered that for 16 minutes without a script .

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    • StewGreen says:

      Coconut , oreo that’s the labels some leftmob use against Priti or Sajid etc

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      • smoogie7 says:

        The left can be extremely racist themselves. Why have the Guardian not yet apologised to Priti Patel? Why have the BBC not called out their favourite news letter?

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  5. StewGreen says:

    Call things what they really are
    BBC-diversity = BBC de-whitening programme

    .. They have no intention of true diversity like bringing in more conservatives of any colour

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  6. StewGreen says:

    NHS cultism
    How we love Big-Ward-Sister

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  7. JamesG says:

    BBC video:

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  8. StewGreen says:

    “Bradley 17 was stabbed to death in a Batley street last weekend and three men have since been arrested and charged with his murder.
    They are Usman Karolia, 19, Ahmed Karolia, 23 and Raja Nawaz, 18
    They were also charged with the attempted murder of two other men at the time that Bradley was killed.
    Today, officers from West Yorkshire Police also arrested two boys, aged 14 and 17, on suspicion of murder and attempted murder ”
    Fight involving 10 men
    https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/two-boys-aged-14-17-18489639

    Same wall to wall coverage as when the Batley MP was murdered ?

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  9. Halifax says:

    I see that Purfleeet has changed its name to Purfleet on Thames, the BBC reports.

    They then say….But what do people make of the change – and will it make any difference?

    Sisters Juliet Obata, 49, and Elfrida Dada, 46, were both resoundingly in support of a change to something “posher” sounding….

    Obviously there is a picture of Juliet and Elfrida who are of course….

    They never ever miss a chance do they.

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    • Anders Thomasson says:

      I have lived in Purfleet since 1987. It was what some might call hideously white until the Olympic Park was built in Stratford when a large number of local residents were given tidy sums to move out so that their terraces could be flattened. For reasons I could not explain, to a man and woman they moved to Purfleet. The place is now… well, not what it was. An entire demographic change and the BBC would love it. My wife and I loudly being accused of racism for walking our lurcher past one particular house (occupant now in jail) is one story I never tire of telling.

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  10. taffman says:

    Al Beeb is attempting to assimilate the British people with a very small percentage of the immigrant population . It is insane. The immigrant population should assimilate with us . They came here for a better life , to escape the ways of their backward countries but now the immigrant population are trying to turn Great Britain into the despotic countries that they escaped from , just look at London. It has taken up the appearance of the Middle East or North Africa . This is not what the people of Britain want or ever voted for . That explains the demise of Al Beeb but they are so immersed in their PC bubble they cannot see it nor want to see it.

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    • G says:

      Taffman,
      All the nonsense is to do with conditioning. The public are willing participants in the moves to impose a Communist dictatorship by wresting control. That needs very few numbers relatively. Just fall short every time of starting a revolution. Easy and small steps. We are merely seeing, all around us, the early signs of that inevitable slide. Mainly perpetuated by the ‘yoof’ who have been privileged to receive a, ‘Bliar educashun’. Tools of their trade? – ‘Shut people up’, ‘condemn them if we hear what we don’t want to hear’ et al.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Taffy,
      I have never thought of it those terms before but you are spot on, the indigenous people of this country are being forced by their leaders to ditch their own way of life and accept the way of life of the privileged groups that , for unknown reasons , their leaders have encouraged to invade.

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  11. taffman says:

    I see that J K Rowling is decrying the “Cancel Culture” , good for her and the other 150 public figures . Is the worm beginning to turn? You readers, can join her and begin with cancelling your telly tax. Actions my friends, speak louder than words.
    But Read on and see how Al Beeb fill the story of her act with its own propaganda .

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    • StewGreen says:

      There is a lefty pile on against super-lefty icon Noam Chomsky cos he signed.

      Meanwhile it’s the new era
      Cancel Your Licence Culture

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    • Doublethinker says:

      But I bet it depends on what you are being cancelled for. There will be a heirachy and speaking out about invaders and their take over of our country will be at the bottom and those who dare to do it will be cancelled immediately, hounded and prosecuted for telling an unacceptable truth!

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  12. taffman says:

    Question: Does Al Beeb get funds from China?

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    • G says:

      Taffman,
      ‘Yes’ according to a video on YT I watched recently. (Can’t remember which quality channel). Paid trips for reporters of MSM (including state broadcasters) to be indoctrinated.
      Doubtless, the BBC has visited many times, truth be known. That’s why it’s taboo to condemn china.
      If I find the channel, I’ll post it. Just remembered, Joshua Philipp – in one of the “Crossroads” videos.

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  13. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – What a coincidence

    The anti-Brexit BBC interview anti-Brexit former Chancellor Philip Hammond yesterday. Today, anti-Brexit Carolyn Fairburn former CBI General Director is interviewed. They all want current Chancellor Rishi Sunak to not cut VAT.

    I wonder why?

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  14. Guest Who says:

    OT, but what ‘heartbreak’ is on a #telitoftenenough Loop.

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    • Guest Who says:

      And then the moaning emole with… yay… accusations!

      “ Gymnastics accusations

      British Gymnastics is to carry out an independent review after allegations raised by a number of gymnasts about mistreatment. BBC Sport has heard claims from athletes that the governing body fostered a culture of fear and emotional abuse. Some say they were “weight-shamed” which led to them developing eating disorders. British Gymnastics says it condemns any behaviour harmful to the wellbeing of its gymnasts”

      ***
      For shame.

      The new sprint team looks good to go.

      But if Mercs of color are the sweet ride of choice, their practical choices might be limited.

      http://images.newcars.com/images/car-pictures/original/2018-Mercedes-Benz-Sprinter-3500XD-Minivan-Van-Standard-Roof-V6-Sprinter-3500XD-Cargo-Van-144-in.-WB-Rear-wheel-Drive-DRW-Photo-2.png

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    • Beltane says:

      Odd though it may seem, if you make a lifestyle choice to take as a partner a corn-rowed young man who fulfils all the established recognition factors of a drug pusher – rightly or wrongly, those factors exist – and choose to drive with him in an all black Mercedes A-Class 200 with all black badging (a costed design choice) and blacked out side and rear windows (another costed design choice, and in the case of the driver and passenger front windows not an MB option but a separate customised cost) both choices being fully established and understood to be drug-related emblems – again, rightly or wrongly – then, allowing for the decisions the police have to make within an increasingly pressured time scale WHAT THE F***K WOULD YOU EXPECT?

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      • Scroblene says:

        Spot on, Beltane, but they need brain cells to appreciate that, and they’re in short supply, sadly…

        If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, then there’s a racing chance it is a duck…

        Trying the ‘do you know who I am’ card, doubled with the race card, and it’s a shoo-in for BBC droids, Guradian readers, and other wasters.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      If I were her I’d be more concerned that her Portuguese “partner” did not seem to know that in Britain we drive on the left.

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  15. Guest Who says:

    Just one other line in the ‘mole stood out…

    “Ahead of the announcement, a selection of young people told the BBC what they wanted to see from Mr Sunak.“

    I’ll bet this ‘selection’ process was very bbc.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Guest, the depressing thing about the vox pop played in the first half-hour of the TOADY programme was 1. how badly spoken the young people were, except for the final contributor, and, 2. how the women presented themselves and the BBC reinforced again in the Fairburn interview that young people and young women especially have ‘anxiety issues’.

      All that mental health publicity hasn’t worked, has it BBC? Or maybe it has, perhaps that was the intention all along, BBC?

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      • Guest Who says:

        Your brave exposure to review has reinforced the point about:

        A) Who relies on the bbc and goes to it
        B) Who the bbc relies upon and features

        Not the country my family speaks with daily.

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  16. Peter Sausages says:

    Defund The Black Broadcasting Company!!

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    • G says:

      Peter,
      I’ts doing that itself. Indirectly. Imagine the public reaction when eventually the BBC’s £100 million is applied to achieve the replacement of all white employees for the sake of, “Diversetee”. I’ll bet they’ll shed viewers/listeners by the shedload. IF and that’s a big, ‘IF’, they replace the tier one employees who actually appear on the screen.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Nasa and the European Space Agency will align polar satellites to provide the first ever reliable maps of Antarctic sea-ice thickness.

    ***

    Given the basis of BBC ‘reports’ on this topic to now, have they really thought this through?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7692963.stm

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  18. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Noted

    After yesterday’s comment about the Daily Express by JustRemainIn Webb while presenting TOADY which excited some outside BBC comment, it was notable how this morning – in the post-6 a.m. News and Weather Forecast paper review – that Nick Robinson was at pains to point out how much he loves the Daily Star and its front pages. Murmurs of approval came from Justin Webb in the background.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Ex BBC narrative establisher fails to notice what his old employer finds obsessively fascinating vs. deep sixes if it doesn’t suit.

      Would love to confront the tool with bbc home page selections most days.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Guest – a little while ago on this site I predicted the the Civil Service would leak stuff which it sees as damaging to number 10 attempts at reform.

        So here is a classic example – the technique seems to give the ‘story ‘ to overseas news agencies – here it is the Sydney morning herald …

        Will there be a leak inquiry – to be conducted by civil servants to find which civil servant did it – ? Er – bit of a problem there ….

        I think leak war has started ….

        By the way – if Dominic Cummings parks on a yellow line I bet the daily mirror has a picture …

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        • Beltane says:

          The Daily Mirror picture captioned: ‘Dominic Cummings displays his typical arrogant contempt for the Chinese by deliberately parking on symbolic yellow lines.’

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          • Scroblene says:

            Has to be a ‘picture’ for those with reading deficiencies, Beltane, be fair!

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      • theisland says:

        Surely time to replace EU Remainer Ben Wallace as Defence Secretary. He goes along with the ‘advice’ of his EUrophile civil servants.

        https://briefingsforbritain.co.uk/weakening-our-defences-dangers-in-the-political-declaration/

        What ministers need to know
        Any amount of structured UK involvement in the EU defence architecture, including its defence industrial bodies, brings an obligation to follow EU defence policy …
        The EU is not offering ad hoc involvement in EU defence bodies, it is offering attachment on the same basis and with the same expectations as member states …
        UK attachment to EU defence industrial bodies is not an advantage to UK industry but rather an impediment because of the rules, benchmarks and strategies the EU imposes.

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      • richard D says:

        Guest Who – the same ex-Beeboid fails completely to notice that Mr Cummings is actually doing what he’s employed to do – but then again, given Mr Sweeney’s background and track record, what would he know about that concept ?

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  19. Oldspeaker says:

    Its not a bad piece at all,
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/ewsu2giezk/city-of-silence-china-wuhan
    Interestingly does not totally rule out a lab created explanation, some acknowledgement that Birger Sorenson exists would be nice. Shines a light on just how sinister and controlling Chinese authorities are.

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  20. Sluff says:

    Further up this trail, Stewgreen appears a little sceptical about our saintly NHS. You know. The ‘finest healthcare system in the world’.

    And we have to save it. Remember? The over-riding priority of Coronavirus.

    Well, another day, another example of their magnificence.
    And even the BBC are mentioning this one, although of course they never join the dots.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53307593

    ‘Many lives have been ruined because officials failed to hear the concerns of women given drugs and procedures that caused them or their babies considerable harm, says a review.
    More than 700 women and their families shared “harrowing” details about vaginal mesh, Primodos and an epilepsy drug called sodium valproate.
    Too often worries and complaints were dismissed as “women’s problems”.
    It says arrogant attitudes left women traumatised, intimidated and confused.’
    ………..
    “I have conducted many reviews and inquiries over the years, but I have never encountered anything like this; the intensity of suffering experienced by so many families, and the fact that they have endured it for decades. Much of this suffering was entirely avoidable, caused and compounded by failings in the health system itself’.

    Note how the BBC always talk about ‘the government’ and ‘officials’ but refuse to point the finger where it really needs to go.

    Save the NHS.
    Yeah, right. Save it from scrutiny, accountability, objective critique, cultural change, and being responsible for outcomes rather than production.

    Thousands of care home residents have died when the NHS discharged infected people from hospital back to their care homes without Coronavirus testing. But on the positive side the NHS built all those Nightingale hospitals and got famous people to open them in great fanfares of publicity.

    And how are Shrewsbury, Bristol, and mid Staffs trusts doing these days, to name but three?

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/feb/06/mid-staffs-hospital-scandal-guide

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff
      A few years ago when I had daily exposure to the NHS I noticed how it’s working practices were designed to make it unaccountable .

      The simplest and clearest example ? Email addresses of individuals or departments – no – here’s the telephone number – answer phone – we ll get back to you .

      I lived in a working world of emails . If there wasn’t an email – it didn’t happen – audit trails – proof of deliver – proof of reading – proof of action .

      Yet – these NHS ‘angels ‘ had no email addresses for punters to contact them ….. people on this site sometimes write posts leaving a question open . Well I don’t – the reason for no email addresses was to avoid work and avoid accountability – and of course – the all important ability to not work at all ……

      Once realised that the NHS is a self serving organisation I knew I was at war with it . And still am.

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      • Scroblene says:

        You have to follow the money, Fed, and unfortunately, it’s yours and mine…

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Southampton FC’s Rupert Lowe
    ‘I’ve been in BBC studios
    they are
    an arrogant
    anti-Brexit metropolitan elite
    putting their own spin on things.
    It should go subscription
    If they really believed they are that good they should have no problem with that’

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  22. AsISeeIt says:

    A short journey into the swap

    One has come to expect puff pieces such as this from our BBC:

    ‘Virtual drama classes providing a lifeline for asylum seekers’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-53316226/virtual-drama-classes-providing-a-lifeline-for-asylum-seekers

    ‘Ali usually relies on wifi at the college he goes to, to contact his family back home but in lockdown this hasn’t been possible.’

    A couple of questions spring to mind. Where’s “home” and how come his family are ok to live there, yet he needs to “seek asylum” here?

    But I’m forgetting, the BBC isn’t reporting this story for me to “inform” or “to educate” it’s simply to tug at the heartstrings & give a plug to lefty-minded outfits such as…

    ‘a non-profit theatre company called the Compass Collective have been providing young asylum seekers with data packages so they can stay in touch with their families but also access virtual creative workshops.’

    That’s good of them. Where’s their funding coming from?

    https://www.compasscollect.com/about-compass

    “Supported by Arts Council England”

    So, would I be right in thinking that it’s me and you as UK tax payers funding young Ali’s wifi?

    https://www.artscouncil.org.uk/about-us/how-we-invest-public-money

    “We invest money from Government and the National Lottery”

    Yep, thought so. This Compass Collective – what’s their institutional character, their outlook on society?

    http://www.rescue.org/compass-collective

    ‘The Compass Collective is your dedicated home within the International Rescue Committee’

    Oh, that’s former Blairite Labour chap: ‘David Miliband President and CEO, International Rescue Committee’

    But it’s a charity not a politically motivated set up, isn’t it?

    ‘Under President Trump, seeking and receiving safety in the United States has become next to impossible.’

    Ok, they don’t like Trump, but that’s expressing opinion. A little dodgy for a charity but not unusual. They’re not campaigning or directly intervening in politics, are they?

    ‘We can make sure Congress steps in once again to ensure the United States welcomes refugees no matter who is president… Contact your Representative on this important anniversary and ask them to support the GRACE Act.’

    More refugess, more young Alis needing wifi, more funding, more jobs for lefty-minded ex-politicians, more tax for me and you to pay, more, more, more…

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    • Up2snuff says:

      AISI, I wonder what is behind this current pushing of face masks on the public. One thing we know is that criminals like to hide their identity to enable them to burgle and rob and mug and stab and deal drugs.

      Another thing we know about face masks is that it completely fractures human communities, it reduces everyone to individuals. For example, you might be walking around your home town and someone passes you, walking in the opposite direction, the height and build and dress mean that it is someone you would know and greet and perhaps talk to. Masked, you might not recognise them and they might not recognise you. The human ‘contact’ and interaction is lost.

      What is behind this enthusiasm for masks?

      If you hear something being pushed by the BBC and MSM, it is really interesting that I have a tendency to immediately become suspicious.

      How about you and everyone else posting on here?

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      • JimS says:

        Clubs versus Hotels is a good analogy for what is happening to countries in the West.

        People in a club have a common interest but may make different contributions:
        – the village cricket club: the small boys find the balls in the rough, the young men play, the old men umpire or keep score, the wives make the tea!

        – the hotel: you arrive, you get a room, you get fed, you pay the bill. You have no interaction with the other guests, indeed they are a nuisance, making noises at night, holding you up at reception. The hotel is all that you have in common but no-one will set up a protest group if the service is bad because no-one knows anyone else and besides, as above, they are your competitors for service. All the hotel management is concerned with is getting more ‘guests’ from anywhere.

        Sounds familiar? What next? Appartment #2087, Mosque #69, Tractor Factory #3, Pret a Donald’s #6523?

        Meanwhile ‘the great and good’ take a private jet to a ski resort far from you!

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    • G says:

      Asl,
      I often ponder on how the destruction of the US would be going now if Hilary had been elected. The Dems have been at it, secretly at the beginning, for now decades and that has become quite obvious now. They would now be in the process of dismantling everything toward their goal of making the US subservient to China.
      That’s why they are so livid that DJT stopped the slide. I think the US citizens must prepare for what’s to come post 03/11. The greatest civil unrest is yet to come and DJT will find very little support from the Pentagon. It will be truly a case of the right people standing up and being counted.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        G
        I read more stuff on social media yesterday about Michelle Obama being put up as running mate to Biden with Hillary on standbys …. I’ve got a big bet on it …

        For the record Hillary is 16/1 to be veep nomination

        Michelle is 33/1 ……Veep nom.

        100/1 to be president … and the odds put Biden ahead of trump !

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        • G says:

          Fed,
          “…..and the odds put Biden ahead of trump !”
          A classic example of fabricated polling.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            G
            It’s not polling – it’s betting odds – and in my view people bet because that is their read of the situation – which in reality means nothing because I won money on brexit , on trump being president and the Tories winning the election …..

            I still think Mr Trump will win it in the absence of ‘quality ‘ opposition . However – if Michelle ran she might be considered untainted enough to swing it- or polarise the place even further – if that’s possible ….

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            • G says:

              I meant that the betting odds have to be based on something other than pure speculation and gut feeling. Surely the unbalanced polls would fulfil that role?

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              • Fedup2 says:

                G
                As far as I know the betting odds are based on the weight of money . Perhaps democrats suffer from wishful thinking and are willing to put their money on it . As I said in my reply post – the betting odds are often wrong – and the odds for the PB to win an 80 majority here were pretty generous ….

                As an Englishmen I think it’s difficult to picture the views of the whole of America ….. and more specifically the issue of postal voting – which seems to be a bigger factor this time .

                By November the US economy will have recovered – covid will not return to the alarming levels – failing Democrat cities will be the same as they are now – but with bigger cemeteries ….or maybe not .

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            • tarien says:

              Cannot help applauding the conceit of the woman-she wants an all black/ coloured government opening the doors to Africa where once their slave trading with the Arabs was on a massive scale against the relatively conservative slaving numbers as transported by European Countries during the 16/17/18th centuuries. But of course the black nations history is rarely taught-Black people just hate being considered Black, not appreciating as to wht they were that colour. Funny -dangerous old world we now see before us.

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  23. StewGreen says:

    The BBC Sounds local radio pages have this at the bottom
    “Trusted local News, information and advice plus Make A Difference.”

    more like: Trusted anti-Tory, pro-Labour, anti-Brexit , anti-Trump news,
    pushing NHS Cultism , woke agenda pushing

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    • Guest Who says:

      Isn’t BBC Sounds the one that has to keep pulling stuff as untrustworthy, misinformation, dubious advice and making a an all-round Horlicks?

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      • StewGreen says:

        AFAIK they didn’t pull that 3 girls podcast
        rather they deleted the trailer tweet
        On the grounds that the prog itself was much more balanced.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, while you are here, have you ever ‘looked closely’ at the front pages of the newspapers as bought to us by the BBC on their web-site until about 1 p.m. each day?

      It has always interested me that for what could be said to be the last of the conservative papers, the Daily Telegraph, the repro is so poor on the BBC web-site that the small text is very difficult to read. It seems to me that the Guardian (said to be the BBC House Journal) is always amazingly clear.

      Have you or any of your computer-ace friends looked deeply at the megapixels to see if the BBC applies some, er, shall we say ‘filtration’ to the DT but not the others? It seemed striking today that the noise level on the DT was high but not on the Grauniad front page.

      The FT – which might be considered to be a conservative newspaper but post-2016 has espoused a much more liberal line – has suddenly become easier to read. Yes, I know pink pages reduce contrast and thereby the definition, but it is interesting to me and may be to others on here.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        typo – line 1 – bought s/b brought

        Proof reader is tired and wants to lie down.

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  24. StewGreen says:

    9am Race and Public Space
    Samira Ahmed is joined to discuss solutions and the future by
    – artist Hew Locke, who was born in Edinburgh and raised in Guyana before returning to the UK.
    He has made works directly featuring controversial statues.
    – historian and former director of the British Museum Neil MacGregor
    – philosopher Susan Neiman, author of “Learning From The Germans” a book about memorials and remembering difficult history, especially around race.
    – Danna Walker, an architect, and founder of the social enterprise “Built by Us” which aims to diversify construction and architecture to create a more inclusive built environment.

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  25. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC has been “learning from the Germans “ more specifically Dr Goebells on how to run a campaign to undermine the people in an entire country and turn it into their Multicultural Marxist he’ll hole using money taxpayer must give them . Every aspect of life is covered – forthcoming documentaries –

    Water is racist
    Are animals racist ?
    Racist dog walking
    Racist gardening
    Cooking for racists
    Is your mobile phone racist
    The racist footy refs
    Why white people can’t dance
    And
    How did we let over 85% of the UK get white?

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  26. StewGreen says:

    ‘People should be forgiven ..not just cancelled’
    Darren Grimes, responds to controversy following his interview with historian David Starkey.

    There are about 40 nasty comments against Grimes in that Twitter thread.

    Dawn Butler got in a claim
    “Starkey coming out with something that is genuinely racist we now know where he stands”
    Whoa , it sounded racist when clipped out of context
    It wasn’t racist and Starkey’s arguments are based on truth & logic NOT racism.
    He’s not a racist.
    However Grimes should have started by apologising to black people for the way misled by media reporting’

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    • StewGreen says:

      FFS Grimes is a bit hopeless
      Before you defend yourself you always have to acknowledge victims
      you can’t just leave them out, it is rude.
      Grimes should have begun
      “I want to acknowledge that today’s black people have genuine concerns
      cos in the past some black people have suffered harm at the hands of some more powerful white people judging them by skin colour ..and that when they hear an edit from the Starkey conversation it does SOUND racist, so is concerning.
      I can put myself in their shoes and feel concern.
      However I accept Starkey’s apology that he is sorry it came out that way, cos that is certainly not what he meant. Rather he was cursing what his opponents argument as ridiculous.
      And I and I think Starkey believe in the principles of equality, not judging people by skin colour
      Likewise I welcome people from all ethnicities onto my free speech podcast and would hope that they are not hounded if their words come out wrong.
      I’m all about tolerance for all : straight, gay, black & white, let’s unite and talk “

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      • StewGreen says:

        Then Grimes can move on to attack the OwenJones left mob
        for the way they exploit black people’s concerns
        and use them as a shield to hide behind as they push their divisive Marxist agendas.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Then Grimes can explain that sometimes genuine feelings of victimhood cos of wrong treatment
          is not actually the result of racism
          cos the nutters who bully and call out at black people
          actually bully and call out at white people as well, on any pretext.
          But that instead of explaining that the OwenJones racism industry team weaponise it.

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      • JimS says:

        Why would Grimes want to talk about lettuces?

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      • Deborah says:

        I have noticed that if I am about to explain to anyone that BLM are a Marxist organisation, I always preface my comments with something to the effect that racism is wrong. I shouldn’t have to, not because I am a racist, but to ensure whatever is said cannot be taken out of context. Darren Grimes found this out to his cost.

        I am looking forward to the day when a man is not judged by the colour of his skin. That means the BBC doesn’t say in adverts for jobs that ‘applications are particularly welcome from BME candidates’ or that you see contestants with low IQs given a place on Celebrity Mastermind and given easier question even though they have a Harvard degree, because they are black (but that didn’t work well). I want a day when Fiona Bruce doesn’t see the colour of a person’s skin when she asks someone on Antiques Roadshow their opinion. It is the BBC that is defining people by the colour of their skin.

        I might add that I define myself as a woman. If men walking ahead of me notice me, and chose to open the door for me, it is fine by me. But if I am against a man in a job opportunity I would like to be treated as an equal.

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  27. Peter Grimes says:

    The Victoria Derbyshire programme this morning reporting on the perils of mesh implants and their easy licensing. The professor who is an expert in this stated about 9.15 that there is easy CE approval for these by stating that they have the same characteristics as devices previously approved. I don’t suppose we will have the aptly-named, hard-to-get-rid-of VD pointing out the dangers of EU wide approval, nor that most will subsequently be made in China with probably sub-standard materials.

       21 likes

    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      That programme is still getting churned out every weekday is it 🙄
      I thought the ‘Victim Derbyshire Show’ was getting the boot 👢?

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      • Peter Grimes says:

        Dunno if it’s regular. I turned over after watching Kay Bully on Sly asking Baroness Morgan, no longer a member of Government, why no one knows what the future holds for our economy. FFS I know the bint (Bully that is) is plain stupid but why doesn’t someone respond that the future is unpredictable, to everyone but Bully that is. She used the same technique every time some hapless Minister was on regarding COVID; when, when, which minute of which day, why can’t you tell us now, etc.

        I don’t know why I bother really!

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        • BRISSLES says:

          Her strident voice is not what I need to hear at any time during the day. She’s losing viewers by the shed load apparently. Not hard to realise why.

             16 likes

  28. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch and BBC WEB-SITE Watch combined Adrian Mole #11¾

    The BBC did not have a big interviewee for the prime 8.10 a.m. Interview Slot on TOADY and instead relied on a Vox Pop from various members of the public on what they wanted to hear from Rishi Sunak, The Chancellor, today. A VAT reduction appeared to be generally one of the items to go on Rishi’s little long list. No comment on that from Justin.

    But on the BBC Web-site Home Page AND on the News Page the BBC are pushing for a Stamp Duty holiday or cut on house purchases.

    I wonder why?

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  29. AsISeeIt says:

    Mr AsISeeIt is basically a lockdown skeptic. If the Wuhan Virus was so dangerous then why did we not quarantine this country early and properly?

    Well, the WHO sought to protect the reputation of the Communist government of China, then lefty-minded pro- open borders media and politicians sought to protect Chinese communities from supposedly nasty racist western populations. So the threat was played down.

    Next phase was the media collaborating with control-minded governments shouting this virus is very very dangerous – lockdown lockdown lockdown…! Borders closed now…? Er, not so much.

    And, do you by any chance remember how early on we treated the virus as nothing to worry about – well, forget that. The slightly conservative governments we don’t like and would prefer to replace well, it’s all their fault for not taking it seriously early enough. Did we mention the borders, no? Good. Still don’t want them closed.

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    • Scroblene says:

      The English Channel got a bit crowded though, AsIs!

      Dear old Winchelsea got a battering from a squillion inflatables, which is sad, because all the pubs were closed at the time!

      (I skidded into a ditch near there in 1968… Luckily the BBC didn’t find out, but my dad sure did)!

      And back then, a ‘Barbara Castle’ was an American Ginger Ale, with a dash of Angostura, ice and lemon! Still like that concoction, especially after eight pints of Guinness and a Ruby!

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  30. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #2 – just in case you were interested

    The NASCAR Noose Truth disappeared in under 24 hours. Nigel Farage’s head in a Liberal Party/Police/BBC Noose took rather longer to fade away. It is now gone. Under 72 hours.

    Very interesting.

    And slightly smelly.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      Just another propaganda technique for the narrative – ‘non report ‘ stuff if it damaged the BBC narrative or if there have to report it – get it down as soon as possible ….. leave the stuff considered ‘bad ‘ up for longer than necessary ….

      Others
      Leave names /details of killers / criminals of reports if it doesn’t fit the narrative
      Avoid describing the true nationality of a baddie eg ‘reading man’ means Libyan Muslim terrorist – simple once ones eyes are opened ….

      Oh – and chuck in “far Right “ whenever nothing fits ….

      Perhaps it’s time to put a separate thread for the techniques the BBC uses to push its bias ….?

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  31. Fedup2 says:

    Guardian watch

    Story 1 – David James – ex prem goalkeeper – gives interview – strangely says that he didn’t think being coloured affected his footy career – it was about ability and performance …..and says relevant stuff about how people get manager badges

    Story 2 – man serves extra 5 years in prison .
    When you go to the story —picture of Blackman – it’s in Samoa ….

    You know – the likes of the BBC goes on and on about why so many ‘young people ‘ – have ‘mental issues ‘ – I wonder if it is anything to do with watching the BBC or even looking at The Guardian Website yet alone reading any of the stuff . I look at it because I’m the chap who slows down at car crashes to have a gander … it feels like that looking at The Guardian .

    For the record – I’m the driver who doesn’t look at the car crash because I’m too worried about the idiot in front trying to get a selfie

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  32. AsISeeIt says:

    Mr AsISeeIt has to occasionally travel by train or by London Underground. Warning: he slips into the third person here – well, with all this mask wearing we’re all assuming new and detached personas – get used to it.

    The mask thing.

    He didn’t want to feel like he had entered a Turkish Seraglio or was forcably participating in some Venetian Festival.

    He suspects the public transport rule may be the thin end of the wedge and this peculiar foreign habit of face covering will seep out in society at large.

    He regards mask wearing as a badge of fear, of mistrust and of passive aggression.

    To cheer us up he relates a comic exchange.

    Mr AsISeeIt is a little too respectable to want to risk confronation with busybody fellow passengers or petty officials, too tight to fork out fines & a tad too long in the tooth to do jail time – there may be a hill he wants to die on for the cause but not just yet.

    Anyway his protest is to don a black paisley bandana – think Johnny Depp (I wish)

    Mr AsISeeIt’s friend is rather more conformist in her mask wear style but tends to be a little sarcastic –
    “Are you going to rob a bank?”
    “No, are you going to perform heart surgery?”

       29 likes

    • gb123 says:

      If I have to use public transport during the mask wearing phase, I am going to get a T-Shirt made. It will have a picture of a chain link fence, a mosquito and a suitable emoji.

         15 likes

    • Oldspeaker says:

      In case anyone missed this advice.
      https://www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/face-covering-advice-for-people-with-asthma/
      .

      “For some people with asthma, wearing a face covering might not be easy. It could make it feel harder to breathe. The UK government has advised that people with respiratory conditions don’t need to wear face coverings,”

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      • Deborah says:

        Thanks Oldspeaker, you have saved me. I have tried a mask once, in the comfort of my own home. My glasses misted up and I felt overheated, all within a couple of minutes. Maybe it’s all this mask wearing that is causing people to have fever-like symptoms and then having to be tested?

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    • Scroblene says:

      “Warning: he slips into the third person here – well, with all this mask wearing we’re all assuming new and detached personas – get used to it.”

      Just finished series two of Reggie Perrin, AsIs…

      Bit close to the bone that – I didn’t get where I am by sailing close to the bone…

      Senora O’Blene is getting very fed up with me referring to all the ‘great-super’ sayings, and I’ve been banned from chuckling at the fabulous British humour!

      Last night, Reggie wanted to sink ‘Grot’ and was trying to make everything fail, including pretending to be homosexual with one of the managers.

      All was hilarious until the manager turned out to be homosexual as well! It got even better after that!

      And it’s a BBC programme FGS!

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  33. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  34. vlad says:

    Some good news to cheer us up:

    583,538 cancel BBC Licence Fee.
    £300,000,000 now lost.
    Plus the scam of the unaccountable ‘BBC Studios’.

    Defund BBC NOW.

       46 likes

  35. theisland says:

    More good news.

       23 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      How could he ever think he’d be considered? Bent – labour – remainer – deluded…

         22 likes

    • G says:

      Theislalnd,
      Bit less cash in the brown envelope from Beijing this month.

         13 likes

  36. StewGreen says:

    Wolverhampton : “Martyn Smith charged with stabbing
    The male paramedic has since been released from hospital having had surgery for cuts to his back.
    His female colleague suffered a knife wound to her chest and she remains in hospital in a stable condition.”

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  37. KafirHarbi says:

    Having just had a hearty English breakfast overlooking an – ahem – ‘soft’ looking Kingsbridge estuary in remarkably ‘English’ Devon, I feel very heartened by what was apparently a slightly booze-inspired Twitter rant by free-speech and anti-lockdown hero Toby Young.

    He shares my view that the woke McCarthyism can’t last forever and there are already signs of its eventual demise in yesterday’s Lockdown Sceptics posting. As he points out – the woke guard are cancelling people, but not murdering them – people like Jordan Peterson and Lawrence Fox live on as highly motivated to put an end to the nonsense.

    The resistance movement is gaining momentum. (We need a sign-off to use like WR for ‘woke resistance’ or something.)

    Also, proud to see that 6 F1 drivers refused to submit to the BLM oppression, and Hamilton was penalised twice in the Austrian GP – must be Karma 😊.

    https://lockdownsceptics.org/

    Toby’s Tweets:

    1/ Thought I’d do a thread about reasons to be cheerful about the Cultural Revolution. All of these are variations on the same theme: the Red Guards have seized cultural power, but not political power.

    2/ It’s a coup in which the revolutionaries have secured the public broadcaster, but not the military. They don’t have a monopoly over the legitimate use of force – they can’t murder or imprison counter-revolutionaries, just cancel them – and that means the coup will fail.

    3/ Take universities, art schools, dance schools, drama schools, colleges of further education, etc. The coup has been 100% successful in those institutions. There’s literally zero tolerance for any dissent from Woke orthodoxy across the HE sector.

    4/ But the timing of the revolutionaries isn’t great. >50% of those institutions will shortly be facing an existential crisis because of Covid. Travel restrictions will mean fewer non-British students, exacerbated by the fact that EU nationals will no longer get the fee break.

    5/ And a lot of students who’ve accepted places will defer for a year, what with lectures and tutorials delivered online, campus social life hampered by stupid social distancing rules, nightlife in university cities non-existent. So most universities are facing a perfect storm.

    6/ >50% won’t survive unless they can attract more students in 2021 and persuade the Govt to bail them out. So what do they do? They make it crystal clear that if you’re not a member of a victim group you’ll be demonised from day one. Make a pass at a girl? You’re a rapist.

    7/ Voice the mildest dissent from the BLM policy agenda – you think it might not be a great idea to defund the police, for instance – and you’re a racist. Say you think JK Rowling might have a point and you’re a transphobe.

    8/ At a time when the sector needs to attract as many new students as it can – and persuade a Conservative Government to bail it out! – it has doubled down on hard Left anti-capitalist gobbledegook and created an aggressively hostile environment for anyone to the right of Corbyn.

    9/ So the good news is at least half of these Woke-us Dei religious seminaries will go bankrupt (assuming the Govt holds it nerve). The pipeline the cult has been using to pump lobotomised activists into the workforce is about to be bombed.

    10/ The Professor of Whiteness Studies at the University of Central Bedfordshire will lose his £120,000-a-year, taxpayer-subsidised job and end up driving an Uber, where his ability to make converts will be confined to drunk couples snogging on the back seat.

    11/ What about schools? The coup has been 100% successful in schools, too. Private and state. So many people have sent me documentary evidence that their children’s schools are now teaching the BLM Gospel, with heretics being burnt at the stake, I’ve stopped collecting it.

    12/ So children will be bombarded with anti-British, Neo-Marxist propaganda from 9am to 3.30pm five days a week. They’ll be taught that British history is an unbroken litany of oppression, exploitation and self-deception. The message will be: “Hate your country and yourself.”

    13/ But with everyone singing from the same hymn sheet – teachers, comedians, the BBC, the Premier League, Hollywood, etc. – most teenagers are bound to reject this dogma. Counter-cultural revolutionaries like Jordan Peterson will have the added glamour of being outcasts.

    14/ And the more Woke the metropolitan elite becomes, the more likely right-wing populists are to win elections. Working class voters see this puritanical self-flagellation (we’re such sinners!) for what it is – a way for high-caste whites to differentiate themselves from them.

    15/ It’s an expression of snobbish contempt dressed up as a self-righteous crusade. And the more left-wing parties embrace this nonsense, the more they alienate traditional working class voters. I think Trump will win in November.

    16/ So absent an actual coup, the High Priests of the Intersectionality Cult will never obtain political power. And even though the process will be slow, right-wing politicians will gradually turn off the financial faucets that are funding this religious movement.

    17/ Another asset for the counter-revolutionary side is that the people the Red Guards go after are often the smartest people in their fields/professions. Brilliant academics, teachers, actors, community organisers, comedians, etc., are being cancelled every day.

    18/ And the upshot is that they become highly-motivated Generals in the counter-revolution. In the Soviet Union, picking off the Communist Party’s most gifted opponents worked because they were imprisoned or murdered. But just cancelling people isn’t nearly as effective.

    19/ So this Maoist moment in which the Red Guards seem to be sweeping all before them could be a last hurrah. They’ve seized an important bridgehead, but haven’t secured their supply lines. It’s the French Revolution without the guillotine.

    20/ I don’t mean to sound glib. I know 100s of good people are being blacklisted every day at the behest of rage mobs. It’s McCarthyism on steroids. But take heart. Join the resistance. Our opponents have immersed themselves in Foucault, but not Machiavelli. We will win.

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  38. Fedup2 says:

    News says the commissioner of the Met has apologised to the black girl , her Portuguese friend and their 3 month old baby about being stopped.

    I suppose the cops who did there job will get sacked or ‘transferred ‘ to desk work or ‘retrained ‘. They must be disciplined if they did wrong – right ?

    But there again – the 15th anniversary of the killing of the illegal Brazilian on the tube is coming up in a few days so I suppose she wants to minimise nasty words being used about her again .
    I wonder if she ll be the first met commissioner not to get a peerage > ? But I suppose they have to give it to her because she’s a girl … .£163 per voting click ….

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  39. Darcy3 says:

    Thisd is disgusting, this is insidious this is blatantly racist, beyond a joke now who will protest ? 19%of them already in a job there way beyond their 3 % representation in the population

    Royal College of Art drops white, middle-aged man from new diversity chief job after tutors said the appointment showed a ‘hideous culture of overt and insidious systemic racism’

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8501179/Royal-College-Art-race-row.html

       28 likes

    • theisland says:

      Let me guess:
      HR at the RCA tell management they need a ‘Head of Inclusion’ (non-job)
      HR write the (non-)job spec. and arrange the application/appointment process
      HR approve the vice-chancellor’s appointment
      HR advise management that the appointment is wrong following whiney letter from the brainwashed
      HR say a new role with a new (non-)job title and new (non-)job spec. is required
      HR write a new (non-)job spec. and arrange (pointless)’training’ for management
      HR evaluate and award themselves a pay rise because of the extra work they have been doing.

         15 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        How’s about ‘Government cancels all funding for the RCA forthwith. Make your own money if you’re so fecking clever…’

        Now I would vote for that, except if it was some plan by Ed Davey or Career Starmer.

        Why can’t I feed and water Senora O’Blene in the manner of normality to which she has become accustomed after nearly forty-eight years, if I still have to pay tax on my own saved-for pension, for arseholes to be even stupider, more irrelevant arseholes?

           10 likes

  40. Darcy3 says:

    I will be complaining after asking them if this is true: I urge all others to do so for the sake of our chidren at least

    [email protected]

       12 likes

  41. richard D says:

    On the Today programme this morning, college youths asked about their concerns regarding getting a job in the post-Coronavirus era. One young gentleman comes on to complain that his chosen job was to be a chef, employed in a 5-star hotel, and he’s concerned that Coronavirus is deliberately picking on him and his chosen job aspirations. Not, you might have noticed, his eventual goal, this was the job he wanted straight after leaving college ! No on-the-job training in a lesser-quality establishment, and eventually, after a lot of hard work and effort, establishing himself as worthy of the chef’s job in a premier hotel.

    Next week, no doubt, we’ll be hearing from a young man at some college somewhere who has possibly attended a soccer training session at school at least once in his life, and will be demanding that Liverpool FC, Man UTd, Man City and Arsenal get into a bidding war for his services, the winner to immediately place him on the first team roster.

    What is it with the youth of today ? They have been brainwashed by parents, teachers and TV output into believing they can be anything they want to be. Tony Blair started the process of their downfall with the complete devaluation of a University education – so all they have to do is to booze and party their way through a numpty degree course, and they can immediately and effortlessly become a sports star, a rock musician, a TV star, major filmstar, whatever – none of these have a skills barrier for them, it is their right !

    Boy, is this post-pandemic world going to come as a ‘devastating’ (and I’m not throwing that word around liberally, like the media does) shock to their system.

       30 likes

    • JimS says:

      Back in the 1960s out of 1,000 pupils only 100 would have gone to university and only 3 would have recieved ‘firsts’.

      After the Blair revolution 500 went on to university and 230 received ‘firsts’.

      Opening the door wider might have let more in but it should have had an only marginal effect on the number in the top group.

      Even if the universities had kept the same marking standardisation methods as used in the 1960s i.e. keep the proportion passing their exams the same by adjusting the grades, there should only be 15 ‘firsts’ in a present-day cohort of 1,000 pupils.

      I expect one needs a PhD to say “Won frize wiv dat bruv?” nowadays.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        It actually started before Blair. Even in the late 80’s the amount of A level passes were increasing year on year. Again back in the late 50’s and 60’s you had to be a near bloody genius to gain star passes at A level. Now you only need to spell your name right to get a certificate.

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  42. Oldspeaker says:

    I don’t recall the bbc covering this, possible I missed it so just in case anyone else did heres a link. Funny how events all piled on top of each other, makes it difficult to focus. Still at least it exposes the climate lie, after all who would be getting excited about statues when climate change will kill us all in a few years.
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known

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    • Darcy3 says:

      NOT a surprise,

      what is surprising was seeing all the silly purple haired [email protected] marching through London week after week claiming Trump as a sexist pig etc etc whilst supporting rapist Clinton and his wife who attacked the victims

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  43. StewGreen says:

    Daily Mirror group job cuts
    Reach PLC is cutting 550 jobs across the UK (12% of its workforce). Its reported revenue for the second quarter of this year down 27.5% year on year – with print down 29.5% and digital down 14.8%.
    The three biggest titles in Wales have lost 50% of sales in the last 10 years.

    https://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/2020/news/reach-to-axe-550-jobs-after-coronavirus-hits-business

       14 likes

  44. pugnazious says:

    BBC not interested in fact-checking Boris’ statement that care homes failed to carry out procedures fully…..Kuenssberg telling us his comments were crass and he needed to reflect on them…everyone was shocked and outraged by his comments apparently….it’s all the government’s fault as it was too slow to react.

    Boris has ‘refused to apologise’….BBC shaping it so that it looks like he has something to apologise for….but he doesn’t as any fact-check would show.

    Just the usual BBC anti-Boris narrative.

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  45. pugnazious says:

    Why? Why apologise and why is it frontpage news?

    Bianca Williams: Met apologises to sprinter over stop-and-search

    The BBC admits….

    ‘Despite two reviews by the force’s directorate of professional standards, Dame Cressida said the force had found no misconduct by its officers.’

    Claims of racism are racist in themselves.

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  46. pugnazious says:

    Just listening to Sunak [sounding remarkably like Osborne]…said the measures ut in place, helping all nations of the UK, only possible due to us being a united kingdom.

    Expect the BBC to fact-check that as wee shuggy loudly objects to the comments.

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  47. Fedup2 says:

    Anneliese Dodds is , apparently , the shadow chancellor – she had to respond to the Richi money tree statement . Unfortunately she did a good job of looking like the ‘wicked witch of the west ‘ . Now I know ‘looks ‘ shouldn’t matter but it’s difficult not to listen and look .

    It would have been nice if the Labour Party could have supported the government attempt to stop the ship from sinking but it opposes to oppose – much like the BBC will .

    I think labour would have everyone on the furlough scheme for ever …

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  48. Darcy3 says:

    So black people want all our jobs now whatever their qualifications or lack of, and now refuse to be arrested whatever the circumstances

    I suppose all the jobless white males will soon have to hand over their white wives

    will there be a market with bidding ?

    the arabs have a strong track record in organising these up until very very recently,

    although never acknowledged,

    only whitee could be a slaver..?

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    • pugnazious says:

      In the ideal BBC world you would be all forced into mixed marriages in order to breed out the whiteness…..that’s not a joke, nor speculation. Labour, and the BBC, want to ‘brown’ Britain….and I still remember BBC presenters telling us how much more beautiful mixed race people were…and more mentally stable….though judging from what I see that ain’t the case….a lot of mixed race people seem pretty mixed up.

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      • Oldspeaker says:

        ” to breed out the whiteness…..”
        And to what end? Witness the rampant racism black African can show to black African, Pakistani to Indian, etc etc.

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  49. Darcy3 says:

    During the second half of the 19th century and early 20th century, slaves shipped from Ethiopia had a high demand in the markets of the Arabian peninsula and elsewhere in the Middle East. They were mostly domestic servants, though some served as agricultural labourers, or as water carriers, herdsmen, seamen, camel drivers, porters, washerwomen, masons, shop assistants and cooks. The most fortunate of the men worked as the officials or bodyguards of the ruler and emirs, or as business managers for rich merchants.[59] They enjoyed significant personal freedom and occasionally held slaves of their own. Besides European, Caucasian, Javanese and Chinese girls brought in from the Far East, “red” (non-black) Ethiopian young females were among the most valued concubines. The most beautiful ones often enjoyed a wealthy lifestyle, and became mistresses of the elite or even mothers to rulers.[59] The principal sources of these slaves, all of whom passed through Matamma, Massawa and Tadjoura on the Red Sea, were the southwestern parts of Ethiopia, in the Oromo and Sidama country.[60]

    In the Central African Republic, during the 16th and 17th centuries Muslim slave traders began to raid the region as part of the expansion of the Saharan and Nile River slave routes. Their captives were enslaved and shipped to the Mediterranean coast, Europe, Arabia, the Western Hemisphere, or to the slave ports and factories along the West and North Africa coasts or South along the Ubanqui and Congo rivers.[61][62]

    The Arab slave trade in the Indian Ocean, Red Sea, and Mediterranean Sea long predated the arrival of any significant number of Europeans on the African continent south of the Sahara.[51][63]

    While in Wadi Safra during WWI, T.E. Lawrence wrote, “…these blacks were originally from Africa, brought over as children by their nominal Takruri fathers, and sold during the pilgrimage, in Mecca. Some became house or body servants with their masters; but the majority were sent out to the palm villages…and did all the manual work of the holding.

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    • Beltane says:

      Yea, yea, yea – but that’s history, right? So we’re gonna rewrite it. Make it relevant to today. See? That’s progress, that’s BLM. And that Lawrence, he wan’t entitled to them robes, no way man. He was just a goddam racist.

         23 likes

    • Lefty Wright says:

      Darcy3
      So what’s that got to do with me? I was born in 1940 and I never owned a slave. All I see is my country being invaded by illegal aliens who hate us and having their arses wiped by British taxpayers. WTF?
      It’s enough to make a man join the National Front.

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  50. Darcy3 says:

    Some facts for the racist bbbc fact checkers:

    During the Second Sudanese Civil War (1983-2005) people were taken into slavery; estimates of abductions range from 14,000 to 200,000.

    Slavery in Mauritania was legally abolished by laws passed in 1905, 1961, and 1981. It was finally criminalized in August 2007. It is estimated that up to 600,000 Mauritanians, or 20% of Mauritania’s population, are currently in conditions which some consider to be “slavery”, namely, many of them used as bonded labour due to poverty.

    Slavery was comparatively recently outlawed in Oman (1970),Qatar (1952), Saudi Arabia, and Yemen (both in 1962)

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