399 Responses to Start the Week Thread 29 June 2020

  1. Fedup2 says:

    BBC researchers ringing around ‘friendly ‘ ‘doctors ‘ looking for negative quotes – got one in that global medical centre – Exeter ? -a region if I recall – with the lowest number of covid cases across the country ex NI …? Must do better —-has he relatives in Leicester ?


  2. fakenewswatcher says:

    Is that R4, promoting and co-ordinating BLM in the UK, under the pretence of reporting on ‘racism’?
    You have to watch them, cos they’rte often pretending merely to be reporting, when actually they’re trying to whip up sentiment and get a UK BLM off the ground.


  3. taffman says:

    What I find amazing is the fact that although the present government got into power with such a huge majority that it has not yet closed the whole biased outfit down ? I am sure that it would get the support of most of the Tory voters and others that do not want to be forced to fund Al Beeb .


  4. JamesArthur says:

    Have avoided BBC for 99% of last month…watched a bit of Breakfast – Dan interviewing Mr Hancock – pathetic Dan Walker was simply reading from a script looking for gotcha – Hancock was good –
    How big is the elephant in the Leicester room – so the increase is due to poverty (is it?) , difficulty with language (why?) the ethnic diversity (in which are the cases found?)..multiple people living in households (have fewer kids)
    and if language is a problem – ask why? There is no excuse not to speak English after years of living here (not due to the men not allowing women out is it?)
    Why is nobody asking is the real question – the above are correlations not causes – covid doesn’t transmit because you are poor and don’t speak English – it transmits because you are not following the guidelines – you are not social distancing, you are not washing your hands..what about culture….?
    stop making bloody excuses BBC.. ask in which Ethnic group the outbreak is most severe…I think we all know…but the BBC just want to blame the Govt.

    Then R4 – same old shite put to Hancock…BBC is a complete waste of time and public money


    • Fedup2 says:

      James – it’s that last 1% isn’t it ? The monster is so pernicious-
      And as for Leicester —is it about to get the whole MSMBBC treatment with Myrie or that welsh bloke standing in front of something – thus journos spreading the bug back to other bits of Blighty ?

      We won’t find out the reason for the infections – even if it is easily found due to the type and numbers of ‘locals ‘ turning up in the covid ward of Leicester royal infirmery . Fridays down the mosques must be – intimate ….


      • The WestWyvern says:

        It wasn’t difficult on Flight Radar24 (Other plane-spotting apps are available) to track a steady number of flights landing at northern airports in the UK from Lahore during the weeks of lock-down.

        But of course the science told us that the passengers on those planes were low risk… The same science that tells us wearing a face covering will now save us.

        I’d also assume at least 50% of passengers from Lahore had to wear a face covering of some sort, as required by Mo.


  5. Fedup2 says:

    The god awful Crace in the BBC newspaper listened to the PM on the soon to be defunct Times Radio Monday morning – in the Toady big interview spot – which was well executed …. maybe the government should use the new station instead of the BBC or the rest of them – despite a load of BBC droids acting the cuckoo there ….


  6. G says:

    Earlier, on Toady, I learnt that our ‘Worlds Most Trusted’ “has learnt” (a “source”) that there are no BAME members of police specialist teams like Dog Handlers (mentioned specifically) and some police “Federation” is trying to do all they can to ‘improve’ (?!) the situation.
    There’s one word in the lexicon of the multiculturalists that we don’t hear often if at all. That’s ‘aptitude’. As my Dad (ex-WO2) used to say whilst pointing to his head, ‘if you don’t have it there, no one’s going to put it there’.
    The quality of everything will drop precipitously if people are given jobs that they dont have the aptitude for but simply for the sake of ticking boxes.
    So, the message is to all you BAME dog owners(?!) step forward and apply to be a dog handler for the police. As an aside, thinking about it, I have NEVER seen a black or asian walking a pet dog. Indeed, some of the latter see dogs as a delicacy.
    Nor have I ever seen a BAME hill/countryside walker………


    • JamesArthur says:

      Yes I heard Cressida Dick on R4…is she really in charge of the Met? Apparently 20% of the Policeforce are BAME but she wants more? This is odd as 20% is far greater than the proportion in the country? Why is it that quotas only seem to work in one direction?
      As you say G, the quality will drop if you just select by one factor – it dropped when they decided to prioritise by being a degree holder….and it always will when you just do the quota on one characteristic/factor.

      Still Woke is what Woke does…..

      off to work…no more BBC for a few days


    • The WestWyvern says:

      And to some ‘asians’ the dog is verboten.

      As required by order of the book of lies, written by the great sky fairy called Mo.


    • Fedup2 says:

      You should come round my ‘crib’

      The coloured drug dealers have those banned killer dogs to take around the streets patrolling their turf with a couple of kids on bmxs on point as radio operators and outriders .,,
      Very well organised .,,


  7. JamesArthur says:

    Sorry to put this on again _ Forscari did yesterday but it really needs support – I am sure Change.org UK are hiding it
    Despite it having over 10K it didn’t show up in recent or others – had to search by name – when some with only 50 votes do show up

    Conspiracy theory Change.org don’t agree with it so hide it . I know nothing about this chap Nick, but he seems a decent hardworking bloke who has done loads for the disadvantaged and his crime – to disagree with BLM. Vote on petition..it may not help but it sends a signal



  8. JimS says:

    My neighbour has just moved out.

    Our postman has given me her mail as she has put an unofficial re-direction note on her door.

    She, who has a TV, has been sent a brown ‘Action required immediately’ letter while I, without a TV, have had a white ‘legal occupier’, ‘Your attention is required’ letter from TVL!

    TVL produces a more varied output than the BBC.

    P.S. If one is an ‘illegal occupier’, one of the Occupy, XR or BLM group, can one get TV for free? Most likely yes.


  9. vlad says:

    Yet again, Tucker telling it like it is – almost alone among the US (and UK) broadcasters.

    – Violent mobs rampage while the authorities do nothing, so a few brave citizens protect themselves, their homes and their monuments.

    – Note the obnoxious privileged white student (natch!) accuse the ballsy NY woman of white privilege, and her robust riposte.

    – “This is not about race anymore, it never was, it’s about tearing apart the fabric of America.”

    – Trump enforces the law and the media get outraged.

    – A white couple dare to defend their home from the mob and the media and authorities attack THEM (the UK Guardian jumped on the bandwagon of course!).


    • Doobster78 says:

      Wow !!!! I watch all these Tucker videos that are put up.

      That by far is the craziest yet !! The left have just completely gone stark raving bonkers !!!!!

      Wanting to prosecute that couple for defending their property ??? From the Peaceful protesters.!!!!! Jesus Christ. That is some scary s##t happening !!!

      Shocking stuff.


  10. The WestWyvern says:

    Sorry for the long post but as some here may remember I emailed my local MP (Tory) on the Monday following the weekend of BLM desecration in the capital.

    In summary I made points regarding the gathering whilst the country was in lock-down, the general violence, the BBC coverage and the abhorrent desecration of the cenotaph, especially so on the anniversary of D Day.

    A written reply was received yesterday. I will summarize his response and my counterpoint.

    Para 1 tells me the death of Floyd George was shocking and the footage deeply distressing. It finishes by informing me the police involved have been arrested.

    Excellent. Thanks, so interested in the death of an American no-body here in the deepest darkest parts of west of England. How in any way is it relevant to this constituency or the wider country?

    Para 2 provides me a short history lesson on American race relations but also acknowledges the scenes in London does nothing to further the goal of a truly equal society.

    Indeed the Americans fought a civil war to abolish slavery and recently had a black president, so what’s going wrong there? Equal society, what does that even mean? Why did the polis stand back and allow the violence and vandalism?

    Para 3 then goes on to update me on the sale of arms to countries (US) where they could be used for internal repression. Rubber bullets and the like and how he is pressing for the licences to be reviewed.

    The largest arms producer on the planet isn’t going to lose sleep methinks. Perhaps he could pursue the Home Office to introduce those effects on UK streets instead.

    Para 4, the longest, then goes into utter waffle about BAME, Race Relations, religious tolerance, the influence of Pritti Patel and other in government fighting racism.

    At this point I gave up and crumpled the paper and launched into the bin.

    I recovered it this morning to support this dit and will keep with the others in order to remind me NEVER to vote for these liberal buffoons again.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The West – i suppose the MPs secretary ( expenses ) or wife ( expenses ) uses a standard Party HQ letter with their own approved paragraph added .

      Was it a tory MP? I know there appears to be no difference at the moment – im guessing it is labour if they to add to unemployment by closing tje defence industry down …

      At least they didnt forward your letter to the MP for mineapolis


      • The WestWyvern says:

        Fed, Tory – in name only it appears.

        Shame cause he backed the Brexit cause all the way.

        HoC notepaper used. Single side small font text, It has a reference so I expect I’m on a list somewhere!


    • taffman says:

      The WestWyvern
      Perhaps we should vote him in as Plank of the Week ?
      Vote for The Brexit Party next time . I think that they will change their name to ‘The Reform Party’ once we are out of the abominable EU?


      • The WestWyvern says:

        Taff, I’ll be looking at alternatives ‘For Britain’ or similar.


  11. StewGreen says:

    Excess deaths news
    #1 it’s a tinge, we had excess deaths WAY ABOVE the normal, and now we have got just a little BELOW normal
    But #2 As we always said “you cannot die twice”
    so in the case of Covid counting raw deaths was always a BS metric
    Look at a whole year stats, if we were due to die in October and Covid got us in April, then the end of year death tally is still the same


    • StewGreen says:

      Look at the top right of the graph
      see how the current all deaths in BLUE just crossed the average ..GREY dotted line.
      But see how a few weeks ago deaths were 10,000/week above average
      So we have long way to go to catch up with that
      It’s not like that blue line is showing 3,000/week less , yet.


      • Deborah says:

        I am still worried about total deaths in the U.K. in any year. Early on in Covid19 lockdown somebody produced the ONS statistics for deaths in a normal year; about 500,000. But roughly there are 70 million people in this country and roughly the average age of death is 70 years. Shouldn’t there be 1 million people dying each year? Where are the bodies?


        • StewGreen says:

          Deaths today correspond to past population not today’s population
          Since most of the population are under 50 they are not going to die next year.


  12. Dobyns says:

    Further to the armed couple in St Louis, Missouri



    • Guest Who says:

      Tx for that.

      Will make a useful addendum to the missive that BBC CECUO can sit on for several months before saying their putting Goebbels to shame is getting it about ‘right’.


  13. Y O Y O Y says:

    This petition https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300118 just passed the halfway point, but could do with some more activity to be sure of meeting the target of 100000 before the deadline. Although the interim response is along the lines of ‘we got it about right’, it does say that decriminalisation is still on the table.


  14. StewGreen says:

    Ha I just got unlucky
    The security system here sometimes logs you out.
    Just now it did that whilst I was in the middle of editing an existing post adding an extra paragraph.
    So I lost that extra paragraph, and had to type it from memory.


  15. Jeff says:

    These days we seem to have left the ability to reason behind us and we’re in a state close to permanent hysteria. Anything can set it off.

    Firstly we had all the ludicrous hyperbole surrounding Brexit. Remainers were shrieking insanely about “cliff edges” and “economic Armageddon.” There was no reasoning with them.

    As soon as that was done they turned their attention to the climate. Pictures of Greta appeared every day on the BBC. She was everywhere. Presidents, prime ministers and princes vied with each other to gain an audience with the diminutive sage. Every sentence was replayed to us as though some old testament prophet was imparting meaningful wisdom and we weren’t just listening to the incoherent ramblings a neurotic sixteen year old. We had mobs of pretentious greenies gluing themselves to pavements and setting up barriers on bridges. Some clambered aboard tube trains. It was truly pathetic…

    Then we had the Corona catastrophe. Our over reaction to this unpleasant virus has been insanely off the scale. If we ventured out to take the dog for a walk some officious git would be curtain twitching and the police would send up a drone to warn us off.
    ITVs mega gob, Piers Morgan, was in a permanent state of apoplectic rage, his numerous jowls wobbling like an unset blancmange, as he railed against “these pathetic morons” who were innocently enjoying the sunshine or walking along a beach. Dominic Cummings became public enemy number one…

    Then we had the interesting development of the BLM “protests”…and Piers own pampered offspring taking part in these mass gatherings. Mobs of the blighters. No social distancing, standing cheek by jowl, the mob descended on London. Not a syllable of criticism from Piers, or from certain Labour MPs who became swept up with self righteous virtue signalling and suddenly found themselves with these violent louts.

    We’ve left reason and intellectual scrutiny behind. We’re reacting to mere emotional whim. The louder someone shouts, no matter how stupid they are, they get listened to. We’re watching a mass, societal tantrum. Privileged, spoilt children, throwing their expensive toys out of their comfortably upholstered prams.
    This pathetic, childish insanity has gone on for long enough.

    But I’ve got a question…
    Where are the adults?


  16. Guest Who says:

    Let’s look at the history.

    Narrated by Nish.


    • Lefty Wright says:

      Guest Who
      Yes it is pollution of the first magnitude and we are criminalised if we refuse to pay for it. The Mafia’s got nothing on this bunch of goons. I wouldn’t watch if the buggers paid ME to view it.


      • Guest Who says:

        Given it is misinformation, propaganda and censorship I am surprised any do.

        And vexed the government supports its all too unique ways of connecting itself and being funded in so doing.


  17. StewGreen says:

    What’s in today’s edition of Gopal’s Gaffs ?
    We don’t know cos Dr Priyamvada Gopal’s now locked her Twitter, so only her friends can see it.


  18. Guest Who says:

    BBC News has appointed Nick Beake as Brussels correspondent. Nick, previously Myanmar correspondent, will start his role in Summer 2020 and will be covering Brexit and stories across Europe.

    What larks.

    An Egyptian via Pakistan gving insights (well, an insight; she seems to enjoy JonDon’s workmate) on Oz and now a bloke used to sleepy Asia giving the UK the skinny on the most devious nest of thieves in Europe.

    Mind you, they do have similarities to the Generals.


  19. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Concerning all these historical statues that the wokerati want to pull down for any tenuous connection that they don’t fit in with today’s ‘values’.

    I wonder what the likes of Dickens would think of comparing their values with today’s where tens of thousands of little girls are gangbanged, tortured, plied with drugs and alcohol by one lot of enrichers yet it’s almost accepted and very little is done about it apart from the occasional handful who pop up in the courts now and again but quickly disappear from the msm.

    There’s lots of other stuff going on which is abhorrent and would render our earlier Brits speechless.

    How would they compare their morals to the current blm crap.
    They would think that the current situation needs some British law and order in the same way that the lawless outposts of the British empire needed straightening out. Things like suttee and slavery which the Brits civilised out of the primitives.
    We could certainly do with some common sense law and order now.

    If we could somehow imagine a reverse situation where a statue of, for example, afua Hirsch was about in the 17/18 century I think it would soon be chucked into a canal with her being such a prominent anti British shit stirrer (along with just about all the media like the bbc)


  20. BRISSLES says:

    The 3 stooges, Beff, Laura, Peston are given the prime 3 spots for asking the PM questions after his speech in Dudley. The questions as usual are ridiculous. Beff, asking whether he can ‘guarantee’ the jobs of the low skilled in hospitality – what f….g planet is she on ? like he can guarantee whether a cleaner in a hotel has a job to go back to. And of course they are asking the same questions in a different manner. Pathetic.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Still couldnt hear how they are going to pay for the money tree if not putting up taxes …

      Richi is due to fo something next week so the leaks should start soon..,. Tax cuts?


  21. StewGreen says:

    Boris the bottler is live doing his
    “BUILD BUILD BUILD let’s spend money like water ” speech
    .. “Jet zero” “let Britain be the first to build a net zero CO2 plane”

    .. I call it the pioneer-fallacy
    where Britain rushes in to be “world leaders in” and then makes a lot of expensive mistakes
    ..whilst other nations learn off us for free.


  22. Square-Eyed says:

    The other day I wanted to send a comment to Sky, but as far as I could see from their website all such communication is closed down for the duration of the virus business. Is that other people’s experience or is there some electronic door that remains unlocked?


    • Woolwich says:

      Absolutely ridiculous given that call centre work can easily enough be done from home.

      FWIW our broadband was playing up on Friday to the extent that I tried to get in touch. All phone numbers are gone from their website and also from the Sky Box itself where it used to be listed. However I followed their online guide to speed up my internet and after going through each step, which wasn’t really a chore tbh, it asked if I had resolved the issue. When I clicked on no it gave me a phone number to call for actual human interaction and I’m not kidding when I say that the phone was answered more quickly than ever before when I’ve needed to call Sky, plus the lad I spoke to was knowledgeable and I got a result out of it.

      On a side issue, only because I have a sport loving son at home I have a subscription to Sky Sports. Once he’s older and leaves home I’m ditching the lot and using the box as a Freesat one and investigating “other methods” of viewing the small amount of content that I get off Sky, namely a handful of American crime dramas. Seeing the Marxist BLM movement advertised regularly asa force for good, being made to feel ashamed of my whiteness, seeing trailers for the upcoming West Indies test being advertised from the side of the West Indies and bigging them up but not our team are not what I want to see nor is a BLM channel or thumbnails for BLM, Pride, Unfunny female comedy troupses etc on the Sky Guide home screen.Funny that, Sky were obviously racist for years before knee jerking to BLM but no one’s criticising them for it. The final nail for me was seeing 3 of the 4 contributors to the F1 Show last night all wearing what are obviously “standard issue” BLM and NHS badges. All except Damon Hill. Who instead had removed 2 photos from his office wall (probably photos celebrating his or father Graham’s successes) and replaced them with framed NHS and BLM logos. Pandering, patronising, cowardly and sickening. Along with half white Lewis Hamilton (who’s career has been built entirely off the efforts of a white support staff) bullying his team (who much more recently than any British historical figure accused of being a slaver used slaves to get their cars to front line troops in the last war) into painting the car black, I won’t be wasting any of my Sundays watching any F1 this year.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Woolwich – when i had sky it was either for Atlantic or the footy – but now that the monopoly has broken it is even easier not paying for Sky ….
        ….. i think Sky might be up against it going marxist political in its’ footy coverage – judging from what ive seen on its ‘Pick’ channel.
        As for the footy itself – might as well just play the second half …

        Hamiltons F1 car will be sponsered by ‘ blacks’ camping shops ‘ and ‘mccain chips ‘…


        • Woolwich says:

          Broadly similiar Fedup2.
          Atlantic and now Sky Witness, although some of the programmes are becoming increasibly woke. There’s a small amount of decent stuff on some of the History and documentary channels but not so much that I’ll regret ditching them.


    • StewGreen says:

      @SKYserves speaks to people on Twitter
      Either tweet them or hit the mail button for a private conversation.


  23. Halifax says:

    The British Book of the year award goes to a women of colour, who beat off 2 other women of colour and 2 none coloured women, one Canadian , one American to win the prestigous prize………

    So basically no white men have written a book worthy of note in the UK this year.


    • Fedup2 says:

      But you must feel sorry for the snowflakes who have to buy and even possibly read the stuff to stay ‘ right on ‘ with their comrades .., who also have to ..,

      But no doubt there is an ‘ online ‘ idiot summary to use if ‘ engaged ‘ about approved reading habits .

      Im trying a ‘brief history of time ‘again . I got it second and there is a Valentines ‘ message inside it . !

      Havent got the time to read it though


    • Woolwich says:

      Funny that mate because I’ve read at least 2!
      But there you go.

      Or maybe its the case that awards for book writing aren’t made by the people who actually buy books. I’m sure Lee Child won’t be losing any sleep over it.


    • The General says:

      I reached for the off button as soon as they started.


    • StewGreen says:

      Man-Butcher Prize ?


    • StewGreen says:

      Men have won Book of The Year in the past
      2013 Neil Gaiman, 2010 David Nicholls, 2008 Ian McEwan
      Michael Moore won in 2003
      with ? ……. – Stupid White Men –

      This year there are 11 awards
      Black women won 5 , and men won 1 and a half
      The two top black women won 2 awards each.

      #1 Candice Carty-Williams has become the first black woman to win the book of the year prize at the British Book Awards.
      Her debut novel Queenie
      #2 also won Début Book of the Year

      Novelist Bernardine Evaristo picked up two British Book Award prizes.
      #3 Girl, Woman, Other : Novel of the year,
      #4 author of the year award.

      #5 Oyinkan Braithwaite’sMy Sister, The Serial Killer won crime book of the year.

      #6 Lisa Taddeo’s Three Women.Three Women won non-fiction narrative book of the year (American author)

      #7 The Pinch Of Nom cookbook was awarded the non-fiction lifestyle book of the year prize.

      #8 Margaret Atwood’s The Testaments was named audiobook of the year, while

      #9 Holly Jackson’s The Good Girl’s Guide To Murder was named children’s fiction book of the year.

      #10 Julia Donaldson and Axel Scheffler won the children’s illustrated and non-fiction book of the year prize for The Smeds And The Smoos,

      #11 David McKee was named illustrator of the year.


  24. Foscari says:

    For those of you that live in the capitol you will know that
    the BBC TV London programme or the Londonistan programme
    as it is affectionately called ,is the only programme on BBC TV
    which does not adopt a diversity and positive discrimination
    quota. For the simple reason that indigenous Londoners are
    now a small minority and therefore why shouldn’t the majority
    of the presenters and reporters be ethnic?
    But now the whole of the BBC has adopted the agenda of
    the Londonistan programme in all aspects of its anti government,
    “privilleged” white male attitudes etc etc etc.
    This nowhere be seen better than on the BBC’S internet pages.
    I don’t need to tell you. Just look at the main page, day after day
    after day.


  25. Guest Who says:

    Labour Lewis going full bbc girlie OMG, forgetting Treezer was rejected by pretty much every sentient being on the planet.

    The BBC’s talent for hitching to entire wagon trains going over cliffs is extraordinary.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Looks like ‘ strong and stable ‘ has taken the seat of Ted Heath sitting there moaning for the next 20 years .
      Lucky there werent any terrorist attacks during the decade she was in charge – or that the police became the efficient much admited law enforcement it now is .,,

      Ed note – a cant count the number of islamic attacks or just how ineffective political plod now is.


    • Guest Who says:

      Now Labour Laura, joining Toenails and Bunter in unprofessional tweeting so desperate is she to gabble out her ‘view’.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Poor girl is bound to be upset now that one of her remainer spies has been chopped .
        Sadly there must be many more on the Number 10 target list . Perhaps some will take the ‘ retire with peerage ‘ route now that they realise Number 10 doesnt care about giving former traitor speaker a peerage .,. Drain the swamp


    • theisland says:

      Sedwill doesn’t go until September.
      Meanwhile Sedwill’s civil service is still trying to put us into permanent attachment to the EU’s defence policy and structures via the Political Declaration section 102.


  26. pugnazious says:


    Classic racism from the BBC’s Clara Amfo in her rant about racism a while back….Darker skinned ‘Blacks’ don’t like lighter skinned ‘Blacks’….

    Here she goes….

    ‘RIHANNA, she is beyond proud of her blackness and she is also a light skinned palatable enough black woman that I knew most white people would listen to over me.

    You must understand that I am a WHOLE BLACK PERSON.

    So a ‘whole Black person’….does she mean ‘pure’ black, racially pure with no mixed blood unlike the mixed-race Rihanna?

    Sounds familiar.

    The Aussie government thinks such beliefs are racist…Neo-Nazi even…

    Examples of Racist Material on the Internet

    ‘Racial purity is also another principal concern of many sites. For example, the following image can be found on one site:


    This same site promotes white supremacy and is strongly opposed to immigration.’

    So Amfo is a racist…not just about white people but lighter-skinned Black people as well…..nothing new there for the BBC which seems to find it perfectly acceptable for its stars to abuse other Blacks either for their skin colour or for ‘acting white’….Lenny Henry attacking various people, including Will Smith, for ‘acting white’ as did Alvin Hall who accused various singers of not ‘singing black’ and selling out.

    Pure, outright, unadulterated racism from black BBC ‘stars’….what they, and the BBC, seem to want is apartheid and segregation whilst at the same time complaining about marginalisation, lack of integration and acceptance


    • Fedup2 says:

      Ken Dodds’ love child ?


    • StewGreen says:

      If WHITE people don’t like darker skin
      .. then why do half us spend so much on trying to get a tan ?

      Are not the presence of tanning salons and fake tan cream
      ..signs of whites being oppressed ?

      Our local TV presenter is famous for his fake tan
      And although people false label Tommy Robinson a racist
      he used to own a business making peoples skin darker ..and LESS white.


      • BRISSLES says:

        I’m confused as to why mixed race offspring always lean towards their blackness ie Lewis Hamilton. How does that make their white parent feel ? and do they feel antagonistic towards the white parent for actually mating with a black person, thereby making them feel guilty for giving their child a lifetime of alleged abuse ?

        Knowing the world is not a very nice place, I’m never ceased to be amazed at the lack of intelligence shown when black and white procreate, that potential offspring won’t have a very good time of it.


        • TrickCyclist says:

          Halle Berry, first ‘African-American’ to win Best Actress at the Academy Awards in 2001 for the film Monster’s Ball.
          Said in her acceptance speech, “it’s for every nameless, faceless woman of color that now has a chance, because the door tonight has been opened.”
          Raised by her white mother from the age of four, after her parents’ divorce.


          • BRISSLES says:

            My point exactly ! mixed race have the benefit of being visually attractive, having the golden skin that most of us try to attain with a holiday tan, and yet they always down play their white parentage in favour of the black parent.


  27. pugnazious says:

    ‘Some people try to explain why Asians, and Asian-Americans, succeed so well in education and in the economy by some special characteristics that they have. That may be true, but their success may also be due to what they do not have – namely “leaders” who tell them that the deck is so stacked against them that they cannot rise, or at least not without depending on “leaders.”’

    The BBC and BLM and all those who pander to the narrative of white oppression of Blacks are in fact doing more harm than good…both to the mindset of Blacks but also to race relations as they are being set back decades.

    Why do Blacks not succeed as fast as other Bame communities?

    It’s the victim/grievance culture that they are fed…everything that goes wrong is due to racism.

    Here’s a Black American telling the truth…

    Race-Hustling Results

    ‘Years ago, someone said that, according to the laws of aerodynamics, bumblebees cannot fly. But the bumblebees, not knowing the laws of aerodynamics, go ahead and fly anyway.

    Something like that happens among people. There have been many ponderous academic writings and dour editorials in the mainstream media, lamenting that most people born poor cannot rise in American society any more. Meanwhile, many poor immigrants arrive here from various parts of Asia, and rise on up the ladder anyway.

    Often these Asian immigrants arrive not only with very little money, but also very little knowledge of English. They start out working at low-paid jobs but working so many hours, often at more than one job, that they are able to put a little money aside.

    After a few years, they have enough money to open some little shop, where they still work long hours, and still save their money, so that they can afford to send their children to college. Meanwhile, these children know that their parents not only expect, but demand, that they make good grades.

    Some people try to explain why Asians, and Asian-Americans, succeed so well in education and in the economy by some special characteristics that they have. That may be true, but their success may also be due to what they do not have — namely “leaders” who tell them that the deck is so stacked against them that they cannot rise, or at least not without depending on “leaders.”

    Such “leaders” are like the people who said that the laws of aerodynamics showed that the bumblebee cannot fly. Those who have believed such “leaders” have in fact stayed grounded, unlike the bumblebees.

    A painful moment for me, years ago, when I was on the lecture circuit, came after a talk at Marquette University, when a young black student rose and asked: “Even though I am graduating from Marquette University, what hope is there for me?”

    Back in the 1950s, when I was a student, I never encountered any fellow black student who expressed such hopelessness, even though there was far more racial discrimination then. We knew that there were obstacles for us to overcome, and we intended to overcome them.

    The memory of that Marquette student came back to me, years later, when another black young man said that he had wanted to become a pilot, and had even planned to join the Air Force in order to do so. But then, he said, he now “realized” that “The Man” would never allow a black guy to become a pilot.

    This was said decades after a whole squadron of black fighter plane pilots made a reputation for themselves in World War II, as the “Tuskegee Airmen.” There have been black generals in the Air Force.

    Both these young men — and many others — have learned all too well the lessons taught by race hustlers, in their social version of the laws of aerodynamics, which said that they could not rise.

    You don’t hear about racial “leaders” like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson among Asians or Asian-Americans. Here and there you may see some irresponsible academics peddling that line in the classroom — some of whom are of Asian ancestry, since no race of human beings is completely lacking in fools.

    But they do not get the same attention, or draw the same following, as race hustlers operating in black or Hispanic communities. By and large, Asian youngsters rise and fly.

    Other groups in times past also arrived on these shores with very little money and often with very little education, at least during the immigrant generation.

    A poem by Carl Sandburg, back during that era, referred to a Jewish fish peddler in Chicago: “His face is that of a man terribly glad to be selling fish, terribly glad that God made fish, and customers to whom he may call his wares from a pushcart.”

    This fish peddler probably had not gone to college, and so had no one to tell him that he couldn’t make it, and that his children couldn’t rise, because this was such a terrible country.

    No one can claim that there was no anti-Semitism in America, any more than they can claim that there was never any anti-Asian discrimination. There was plenty of both. But that is very different from following “leaders” whose message would only keep them grounded, after the skies were open to them as never before. ‘


  28. StewGreen says:

    Terrorism rehearsals at Schools, Hospitals & Offices
    AP “Following the attack in which three people were killed and three more injured, the Home Office has republished advice urging various locations to rehearse their responses to what it calls marauding terror attacks.”
    That seems to me that the terrorist threat is the same
    Islamist attacks are fundamentally racist, so surely only private whitey schools/colleges are vulnerable ?



  29. StewGreen says:

    Telegraph on Double Think


  30. TrickCyclist says:

    Does anybody watch news programmes expecting any news these days?
    I used to listen to Radio 2 at work in the mornings and I can remember dear old Terry Wogan pondering then – why does the weather forecast spend so much time telling you what the weather’s already been like? Whereas the news tells you not what has happened, but what the Prime Minister is going to say this afternoon.
    I was reminded of this watching today’s ITV News at 1:30 (I’ve got more sense than to risk BBC these days). Presenter Nina Hossein spoke to Labour’s Liz Kendall about Leicester – Liz blamed the government at the end of each sentence. Then Hossein spoke to headscarfed charity worker Rukhsana Hussein, again about Leicester – not much insight from her, she admitted she hadn’t been into the city centre since lockdown began. Next Boris’s speech, then Debi Edward on the crackdown in Hong Kong, about the only bit of the programme I considered to be actual news.
    A black lady wedding planner called Rugie Wurie shoehorned into an item about wedding service regulations during the pandemic. Sally Biddulph with a hospitalised soldier.
    Female-dominated, mostly inconsequential chatter (and get those minorities in at any opportunity), news it ain’t.


    • JamesArthur says:

      Driving at lunch put on R4 TWATO for some news…did I get any? No.
      Just the usual narratives – I asked my self the same question. Where is the News?
      But then again R4 seems to have changed to R2 as all they seem to do is get listeners to call in and give their – often vacuous – opinions


  31. StewGreen says:

    8pm Stunning journalism from Radio4

    “many specialist positions continue to be dominated by white officers.
    There were only 15 ethnic minority officers out of 734 dog handlers”
    .. now why would that be ?
    As most farmers/country people are BAME and accustomed to animals
    …oh and have no religious objections etc.



  32. Nick Darlington says:

    Greetings fellow Biased BBCers old and new.

    I have an admission that I haven’t logged on here for at least a couple of years!
    My excuse is that I have now retired. I used to work in IT and was seated at my computer every day, with the B-BBC website permanently open in a sidebar so I could keep an eye on all the goings on with our favourite broadcaster and interject when I saw fit. Since retiring I have found a few more things to do which don’t entail sitting at a PC all day so I now struggle to keep up with you all skimming through the numerous posts on my phone in the evening between all those awful TV programs .
    Also I joined Twitter a few weeks ago to see what goes on there, and shortly after joined Parler so if I am banned from Twitter I can still follow the likes of David Vance, Mason Mills, Anne Marie Waters, Pat Condell, Rule Brexitannia etc etc.

    I have logged on here today to post something I spotted last night which I don’t think anyone here has mentioned so far… an environmentalist admitting that he and his fellows have been guilty of over-egging the climate ‘crisis’. I am sure Richard Pinder will be interested….
    Apparently his Twitter feed has already been downgraded!


  33. digg says:

    The BBC are trying to uncover why Leicester has had to go into a second lockdown and why the Asian Community are the hardest hit.

    They seem to have a few theories along the usual lines. i.e. they are oppressed, have worse living conditions all the usual it’s whities fault garbage.

    The one question they seem reluctant to ask is what percentage of Covid cases are from Pakistan and how many of those recently returned from Pakistan or live with someone who has.

    Leicesters population is now around 50% from these ethnic backgrounds and many flit backward and forwards to their home countries. Pakistan has a lot of Covid and a news article I read yesterday reported that 50% of UK imported Covid cases now come from Pakistan.

    The report even said that some Pakistani’s were intentionally travelling back to the UK despite already having the virus to ensure that they get top quality treatment (free) on the NHS, Some have even got off the planes and headed straight to hospital!

    Couple this with multiple generations living crammed in small houses in in terraced streets back-to-back in Leicester and I think you have a plausible reason for the outbreak.

    I am still waiting for the BBC to stumble across this but I know they won’t. I guess neither will the Health professionals.

    They are just happy the pubs will stay shut. (Muslims of course are not bothered by that as they avoid alcohol anyway.)


    • Up2snuff says:

      digg, it is strange how quickly a boat full of affluent white or almost exclusively white people can be forgotten. In the best of my conspiracy theories that is why the BBC removed the Johns Hopkins University interactive from here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51235105 for a while about a month or so ago.

      I guess there were a shed load of complaints to the BBC and it was put back. It is an inconvenient reminder of the first major outbreak of Covid-19 – outside of China – on the Diamond Princess.

      It is also an inconvenient reminder how some countries may be being deliberately infected.


    • Beltane says:

      Grape alcohol dig. Their adaptable book of rules doesn’t mention arrak, vodka or good old whisky. As our West end gambling clubs and airliners the world over can testify.


  34. The WestWyvern says:

    Diff, I posted this morning that during the full UK lockdown last month there were still many flights arriving into Midland and northern UK Airports from Lahore And indeed many other places, on a weekly basis. Any decent flight tracking app could show the detail.

    Of course we were told by HMG and BBC that the passengers on these flights constituted a tiny percentage of risk regarding COVID-19.

    Now fast forward a few weeks and Leicester is the new ground zero (wishful thinking on my part).
    Pigeons coming home to roost methinks… or should that be Boeing 777s…


    • Up2snuff says:

      The West, travel is the number 3 infector or source of Covid-19 infections after NHS workers/hospitals/GPs and Care Home workers/owners/residents. The rest of the country is basically healthy because we have been isolated from the virus.

      I include in the ‘Travel’ category the UK’s emergency services – Police, Fire, Ambulance – because, they too, by nature of their work both travel and come into contact with people who have travelled.


    • Fedup2 says:

      West – the ‘expert advice ‘ about letting people get off long haul flights from anywhereistan should have been trumped by Professor Common Sense – but day in day out hundreds of people who had been sitting in the same airborne tube for hours were allowed uncontrolled virus distribution whilst the rest of us were lucky to get to a shop once a week ….


  35. G.W.F. says:


    The Anglican church should reconsider the way statues and other representations of Jesus portray him as white in the light of the Black Lives Matter protests, the archbishop of Canterbury has said.



    • Up2snuff says:

      G.W.F., I think the Archbishop would do well to have a lengthy chat with someone who has a History of Art degree. I know a lapsed Catholic that he could have a chat with.


    • TrickCyclist says:

      “A painting of the Last Supper featuring a black Jesus will replace a Nativity scene at St Albans Cathedral to show solidarity with Black Lives Matter.”
      I know St. Albans Cathedral well, a beautiful place, this painting is horrendous! Ridiculous poses, black Jesus with a head the size of a basketball, and what the heck has he got wrapped around him? A duvet?
      No wonder someone shot it with an airgun – a monument to ugliness.


      • Up2snuff says:

        TC, those who know their Jews know that some can be quite dark-skinned, like a young shepherd boy called David who went on to greater things. And some can be resolutely pale although it helps to have been living a while in central Europe before moving further east.


  36. Up2snuff says:

    I will post on this: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53224752 later as it has an interesting take on economics and jobs.

    Back to the JHU interactive here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51235105.

    If you click on 10 February, the infections aboard the Diamond Princess are just over 60.

    Move on to 10 March and the Diamond Princess has just been ‘beaten’ in the Top Ten chart by the USA with 711 infections.

    Move on to 10 April and the USA is topping the chart with nearly half a million Covid-19 infections.

    Now, I am aware, that the President and the Mayor of Leicester have both made the dumb remark that it is the success of testing that the figures are so high. They really must think we are stupid. “Yeah, Mr President, if you stop testing less people will get sick. The tests must be giving the people the virus.”

    I have to say that looking at that curve on just the Top Ten chart, the conclusion must be that the USA is being deliberately infected with the Covid-19 virus.


    And who is doing it?

    Or is it somehow accidental?


  37. Doobster78 says:

    Just flicked on BBC to catch the weather just before 5pm.

    Sally Nugent was interviewing Adam Peaty , the swimmer, who unsurprisingly wanted Boris to open the swimming pools .

    Then what I heard next had me shouting at the TV !!!!

    Sally Nugent, asks, “as a father of a mixed race son , would you like to see increased diversity in British swimming”

    Do they ever give it a rest ??? Wonder if when Sally is next interviewing Dina Asher Smith, Adam Gemili, Christine Ohuruogo, Linford Christie or Kris Akabusi , she will ask if there should be more White athletes in British athletics. ??

    Nope, thought not !!!!


  38. theisland says:

    Is this political news?

    No doubt she will also be bringing a private prosecution against Leicester’s LABOUR mayor.

    Sir Peter Soulsby, 71, flouted the lockdown to go and see his partner Lesley Summerland, 64, and carry out maintenance on her home throughout April and May.
    Neighbours filmed the Labour Mayor at Ms Summerland’s home on several occasions as he arrived ‘carrying overnight bags and shirts.’


    • Oldspeaker says:

      No doubt Ms Taliefar was thoroughly vetted for squeaky cleanness before being set up for this mischief?


    • Doobster78 says:

      What the f**k has happened to this country ???

      The left are quite literally “running riot”

      I am a bog standard, down to earth, middle of the road kinda bloke , but, I can’t hold it in much longer !!!!

      It’s like nobody stands up for “us” . Nobody has the balls to give it back to these nutter lefties !!!

      There has to be a breaking point soon, I sense something is coming , a backlash from people like me who have had about as much of this shit as I can take.

      It’s just relentless, leftie , virtue signalling nonsense day after day after day , something’s got to give , surely!!!!


      • Fedup2 says:

        80 majority for the next 3 years – the loops can protest as much as they want but that’s not going to change .

        Social media BBC is magnifying this nonsense – best ignored in Blighty as there is only very limited access to weapons – whereas in America I suspect it is more ‘febrile ‘ and ‘visceral ‘ due to the availability of serious weaponry … plus an election in 5 months …


      • Oldspeaker says:

        Starting to think stirring us up is the whole point Doob, many normally mild mannered souls express the same views as yourself. Ostensibly it’s all positive spin for the left, blm etc, but if they wanted to get Johnny Anglo Saxons back up they couldn’t be doing a better job. Something devious afoot either way.


      • Deborah says:

        The I have resolved to challenge when I hear the nasty sneering smears of the Left, not every time but when I can challenge lies with facts. At the moment I am hoping my letter gets printed in a journal correcting a claim in an article which cited Dominic Cummings broke the law by travelling to County Durham and when a friend said the government should have locked down earlier, reminded her that was the week she chose to go skiing in spite of what she could see was happening. I chose my moments, don’t say a lot but just quietly and firmly correct them. I am fed up of lies by the Left being repeated and repeated until they become the truth.


  39. Fedup2 says:

    Makes a change from Soros funding Gina Miller ….


  40. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – How many?

    This article – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-53193282 – is remarkable for the number of errors or slight deviations from the truth that are included.

    ‘You know that you can trust the BBC.’

    The worrying thing is that it is aimed at young people.


  41. Kaiser says:


    ah the bbc rabbit hole BAME a term invented by white people blah blah

    and a link on its page


    why this person had to leave wales for a career, hmmm like all the other welsh people in england by any chance

    course not its cos I back init

    “”I love it and I think it’s an incredible country,” says Ms Phiri.

    “But I want to come back and see diversity. I would love to come back, but things really, really need to change.”

    isnt that a non sequitur


  42. Rob in Cheshire says:

    I have been watching a programme called “The Luminaries” on BBC1.

    It is set in New Zealand in 1865, but I am having a problem with some of the multi racial casting. A character called Emery Staines is played by an actor called Himesh Patel, who is of course Indian.

    Now Mr Staines seems to be a white character, as he is in love with a white girl played by Bono’s daughter, a fair Irish colleen, so she is.

    Now there is a Maori character who is played by a Maori actor. so we are not colour blind to that extent, but it seems we have to pretend not to notice that a white man is portrayed by an Indian.

    I accept that in Britain in 2020 a relationship between an Indian man and white woman would not attract much comment, and would possibly lead to lucrative roles advertising furniture. But in New Zealand in 1865 it would have been unheard of. I am pretty sure we are meant to take the character of Staines as English, and therefore white, so the act of having him played by an Indian just confuses the whole issue. Are we meant to ignore our lying eyes and just accept the the Indian man is white, or are we meant to enjoy this subversion of history and rejoice that a stuffy white man is played by a person of colour?

    Or is the BBC just a load of woke old tripe these days?

    Yes, I think that may be it.


    • Up2snuff says:

      R-i-C, I fear that if BLM and others keep up the pressure then we will start to see increasing segregation and ‘apartheid’ introduced to the West. It could be, and maybe is already, happening on health and the Film & TV industry has taken major steps in that direction in the week just past. Theatre is already some way down that road, especially musical theatre.

      Sir Lenny had better get ready for some redundancies. There’s a limit to how many different productions of Othello and re-makes of A Passage to India that can happen in any one year.


  43. infoquest says:

    Just been listening to a very long podcast interview – Brendan with JH-B – on Spiked.
    JH-B talked about putting people who work in ‘non-jobs’ such as quangos and the bBC on furlough for a year “and see if any of them are missed”.
    It reminded me of a project I was on, many years ago, and a factory that made black bin-liners. The workforce (or at least the gobby leader of the workforce) decided that they didn’t like my plans for increasing productivity (which was a surprise to me, because at the time I didn’t know what I was planning). Anyway, the entire factory workforce went to the canteen, for a meeting, leaving 8 extruders running with only me and the maintenance guy on the shop floor (we were there to hit the emergency stop buttons if anything went wrong). I timed the meeting, and after 1 hour and 20 minutes the workforce emerged. I don’t know about them, but I’d certainly been given all the evidence I needed to formulate my plan.


  44. oldcrone says:

    “Far right racist thicko” … MSM

    15 mins but interesting.

    Listen to it … sounds pretty reasoned to me.


    • StewGreen says:

      Vid dates from March 1st
      .. just after TR’s Centre PARC’s incident
      where TR detained the alleged groper
      and the police arrested TR instead.
      Since then police changed their mind and are prosecuting the guy.


  45. Guest Who says:


    The only thing that has distorted the BBC is the BBC, and no amount of current or ex BBC heads shuffling the buck around will change that simple fact.

    Paying eye-watering salaries to executives to be ignored by staff on even more eye-watering salaries is but one unique that needs curtailing pronto.


  46. StewGreen says:

    Sadiq ‘white lives don’t matter,when it comes to modern slavery by grooming/raping gangs
    I’m not going to answer a slavery question about them’.

    YouTube David Kurten responds to Sadiqs support for BLM
    by asking him that since historic slavery is so importan to him, what does he think bout *modern slavery*
    especially in the UK in Britain as regards grooming gangs ?

    Sadiq “Oh is that cos of my ethnicity and religion ?”
    …. Then the Muslim chair then rules the question out of order.


  47. Oldspeaker says:

    Noticed Defund bbc follower numbers seem to have stalled a little or is the approx. 80,000 about right at this stage?


  48. digg says:

    BBC! What can these Covid 19 hotspots possibly have in common?



    • Fedup2 says:

      Digg – the London evening standard published numbers for the 32 London boroughs today – the places I’d expect to be very high – Newham and Tower Hamlets – are not – whereas Brentistan continues to be a ‘hotspot ‘.

      I’ve lost faith in the numbers and would suggest that there is corruption in the numbers for those 2 low scorers – which are now part of the third world . ..


      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, how about affluent (mostly) and white (mostly) Barnet? They were leading the infection list at one point. Strange that, isn’t it, after all the BBC have told us about the Covid-19 virus being racists and attacking BAMEs more than the white population?


        • Fedup2 says:

          Sadly I think the number of care homes in an area has an effect . In my ward in my borough it looked like a ‘hotspot ‘ when in fact it was 6 dead in a care home plus others infected ….


          • Up2snuff says:

            Does Barnet have a lot of care homes, Fed? I will research that one for you – if I remember. Enfield & Edmonton have a few. I was interested to hear mention of Enfield on the R4 News this a.m. or was it during Nick Robinson’s interview with Matt Hancock?


  49. StewGreen says:

    Local news : Here we are with the REFUGEE doctor working in Grimsby hospital.

    …em in the footage the doctor is outside the hospital incorrectly wearing a disposable facemask on his neck
    Bug will have been on his neck, so if he pulls the mask back up those bugs will be on the inside of the mask and breathed in into his mouth/nose.
    That mask needs to go in the bin
    and he needs a fresh one when he goes inside.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, doesn’t matter, those are his bugs, he gets to keep them.

      What is important for his patients is that that mask is correctly in place when talking to the next patient or when coughing or sneezing near the next patient. Gloves – yes – they need to be binned if in previous contact with mask or face of doctor and fresh ones should be worn before he meets – and touches – the next patient.


  50. Deborah says:

    6pm news went to Doncaster to see if a town that voted Tory regretted it. Lady in a needlework shop explaining if she doesn’t get the customers she won’t be able to stay in business. Now I could have guessed the narrative before the piece even started, and in my childhood if you had no money, sewing and knitting your own clothes was what people did. Maybe after lock down people will not be as poor as the BBC is predicting. Anyway, I switched off.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Debs, I was informed by the BBC R4 early on in the Lockdown that there was an extra spike in the boom in knitting. Maybe that interviewee doesn’t do mail order? Shame.