399 Responses to Start the Week Thread 29 June 2020

  1. Deborah says:

    First?

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    • Guest Who says:

      Only if you are the right denomination.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Backlinks to recent comments on previous thread

      page 5 started 10:30pm Sunday
      ..includes my comment about FALSE reports of a Stamford Hill anti Jewish terrorist attack.
      page 4 started 12pm Sunday
      page 3 started 6pm Saturday

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  2. Deborah says:

    Do I think the civil service have been trying to undermine this government? Yes. From trying to arrange an extension to Brexit whilst Boris and Dom were laid up, to Priti being unable to do anything. I assume the leaks were authorised by Sir Mark, he may even be the one telling Cressida that policing BLM should be done with a soft touch (and I am sure she wouldn’t arguej). Knowing a civil servant in Cabinet Office who joined Labour as Jeremy was elected and have joined the BLM demos without it being a problem, I am sure under Sir Mark’s leadership there was a desire to undermine government. So pleased he is going but disappointed to read not until September. Wonder if agreeing to go and serve out 3 months notice is to allow more time to inflict more damage. He should be asked to pack his bags.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Exactly so. The disconnect between the what the voters wanted when they elected this government in December and what the civil service and liberal blob quangocrats will actually allow is huge and clear for all to see. Years of Blairite appointments has left a country were a non Blairite givernment is ham strung at every turn by unelected and largely unsackable officials . The Brexit resistance was a clear example of their power to stop the government from delivering the mandate given to it by the voters. But the liberal blob is powerful enough to prevent implementation of the government’s wishes right across the board.

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    • G says:

      But don’t you just instinctively know that was the right move. Based on just the array of negative comments and from those who make them. That alone saves research as to why it had to be done. For the busy person you understand.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Looking this over I come to the conclusion it is because Sedwill implacably opposed Bexit, which brought him into conflict with the single minded Cummings who unlike Boris the Bottler does have the backbone to do the things he needs to do to realise his vision.

      The cowardly Boris would never have dared opposed the head of the civil service.

      It’s all about Brexit and very little else, even though Sedwills views are unquestionably left wing liberal in nature.

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      • NCBBC says:

        If Pres Trump loses the election in 4 months, the Democrats will simply tell Britain to get lost ( Obama policy). We will then have 2 months to organise a new referendum, and then apply to re-join the EU.

        Also Climate Change agenda will be back in full swing, with control of energy, and reparations to Africa – which was always the goal from the beginning.

        Black Lives Matter.

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  3. Fedup2 says:

    Deborah – im sure mr cummings will find a broom cupboard suitable for him …. but the leaks will come and ministers will be dropped in it by their permanent secretarys ….
    ………… theyll be getting out the ‘ yes minister ‘ dvds to stop changes

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  4. Nibor says:

    Radio 4 has a new project on its shows , called Rethink .

    This is what needs to change after the Covid crisis .
    Plus what changes are needed after the George Floyd death and BLM .

    That’s things HAVE to change , because the BBC says so .
    Not should things change , do you want things to change ?
    Should we have a lot of change , or just a little ?

    No no , here’s a unique opportunity for the BBC and liberal / left to change things to their way , the globalist way . No way would we be allowed to change things back to the way they were before the Gramscians infected the institutions and ruined them . We had those changes and now we’ ll have more which they’ve lined up because it’s all social justice warrior stuff .

    And after they’ve had those changes the project still won’t be complete and there will still be some inequality somewhere and people will be even more unhappy than before ( the normal people that is ) so more change will be needed .

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    • Philip_2 says:

      As predicted by Issac Asimov in 1957. The Naked Sun.
      ‘The book focuses on the unusual traditions, customs, and culture of Solarian society. The planet has a rigidly controlled population of 20,000, and all work is done by robots, which outnumber humans ten thousand to one. People are taught from birth to avoid personal contact, and live on huge estates, either alone or with their spouse only. Face-to-face interaction (referred to in the book as “seeing”), and especially impregnating a woman, when replacement of a descendent is necessary, was seen as a dirty chore. (Other science fiction novels examine the extra-uterine care of fetuses, but this is not Asimov’s concern here.) Communication takes place through technology unknown off of their world: holography, 3-D television.’
      And then the BBC can predict the future (we are told). Global World vision prescribed post UN Agenda 21 and George Soros…
      Are we there yet?

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      • tarien says:

        Thank goodness I shan’t be around to experience such destructive subjugation-maybe we shall find another planet that will enfold the human race and give it a second chance. Yes that is rather sloppy I know!

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  5. Roland Deschain says:

    I wonder how many football people will turn out to have been coerced to wear BLM against their wishes. The first crack in the dam seems to have appeared.

    (I did check his account to make sure it wasn’t a Photoshop, and it’s genuine.)

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    • Guest Who says:

      Despite Gary, though he has rather holed the entire bbc VS team below the hypocrisy line, I am now taking an interest in women’s footyballing…

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      • Guest Who says:

        Also brave.

        His feed suggests his ‘advocacy’ is in only one direction of detail.

        But yes, the backstory may see half the MSM descend on any connected with her.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Cant open twitter but is that the one where with the exception of one standing, the rest are kneeling ? but I did wonder, as she has her hand across her chest whether she had a knee injury that prevented her from kneeling.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        More balls than the entire English top division of men’s football.

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      • vlad says:

        That’s what courage looks like.

        I fear it’s the end of her career though, if not her life.

        Who is she?

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Takes courage to do what Le Tissier has done. He will now be attacked from all sides and probably lose his job. The best way to stop this BLM mob attacking anyone or anything that doesn’t bow to their agenda is to refuse to boycott companies or institutions which cave into them. Boycotting Yorkshire Tea and Betty’s Team Rooms in Yorkshire is a tiny example. But companies in general need to be made to realise that there is a powerful lobby, most of the general public in fact, who don’t support BLM and that those companies had better take their wishes into account or lose sales.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Indeed.

        Led by the entire bbc staff mob, hiding behind one degree of separation #criticsaresaying RTs, secure that #viewstheirown confers total unaccountable immunity on them from benign leadership.

        The BBC is amongst the most venal, cowardly, bullying outfit for no purpose that exists to taint the gene pool.

        Yet is still funded uniquely by compulsion for some reason.

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      • The Sage says:

        I am also boycotting Yorkshire Tea.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Is Le Tissier actually an employee? I suspect not, but it would make for a fascinating employment tribunal if the employer were seen to be forcing political statements from employees.

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    • The Sage says:

      Strangely enough, Patrice Evra did not seem to be wearing a BLM badge when on Sky Sports.
      Anyway, I am cancelling my Sky Sports contract when it’s due for renewal and for this on-going BLM obsession.

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      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        Good decision: if Sky ‘go woke’, then help them ‘go broke’.

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      • Doublethinker says:

        I noted the other week when Rashford sent his letter re school meals to the PM there was no mention of colour in it. Regardless of your views about multimillionaires who may use tax havens wanting more goverment spending , at least it seemed he was steering well clear of the BLM bandwagon. Then a week later he takes the knee. He had a chance to show some real , unifying , colour blind leadership but he squandered it.

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  6. vlad says:

    The Black Broadcasting Corporation are in their happy place and delighted to smear Trump with accusations of racism.

    “Trump retweets video of supporter shouting ‘white power'”

    (Their article is still up though the Tweet has been removed)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53212685

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      It was a mistake for the President to tweet that, though personally I feel if it’s OK to shout ‘Black Power’, ‘White Power’ is equally acceptable. You don’t fight racism with racism, so it’s either both or none. I’d prefer none. Be that as it may, the guy who said it was clearly responding to something said by the protester that we don’t hear. I’d wager it’s ‘Black Power’. Maybe further video will emerge.

      What is undeniable is the language later in the video, which I posted yesterday. Suffice to say it involves the F word, Trump, Nazi and turd. Which is typical rhetoric of the left and is never questioned.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Fair ‘analysis’.

        Gave the bbc the context free edit they needed.

        Coupled with all the bits edited out.

        #propagandabackedbycensorship

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Excellent post, Roland, well put.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Classic BBC.

      Semantically accurate.

      Journalistically Goebbelsesque.

      As I posted before, they were much less keen to make much of a man lauded yesterday by Marr, when he ‘did not notice’ the message on a t-shirt of a man he had his arm around.

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  7. TrickCyclist says:

    Not sure if this has any relevance here, but 5STAR (Freeview 30) is currently showing Scary Movie 2, a decidedly lowbrow horror movie spoof from 2001 made by the Wayans Brothers (if you don’t know, the Wayans are a black American showbusiness family).
    Anyway, early in the movie there is a visual joke showing a statue of what I assume is meant to be Thomas Jefferson with Sally Hemings and their mixed-race children. As the camera pans down, we see the plaque on the plinth reads, “Once you go black, you never go back.”
    I’ve seen this bit before on TV but it was cut tonight. The tentacles of the BLM protests reach ever further, even into rubbish comedies like this. Another statue falls!

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    • Rich says:

      Trick,

      The same Wayans brothers who are behind the abysmal, and if-you-want-to-be-offended really quite racist, “White Chicks”.

      Regularly seen on channels like ITV4 and Channel 5, right up there with their equally sympathetic and subtle portrayal of dwarfism, “Little Man”. Yes, it’s shite as well.

      The whole family seem to be famous and reasonably successful only because they are black.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Yes, a lot of black families seem to ride the ‘fame’ wagon. I only know of the Kadarshians through media publicity, but despite being a white family, all the girls appear to be married to black men, and their ‘fame’ (and money) knows no bounds.

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  8. taffman says:

    Al Beeb news website – No news.

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  9. Halifax says:

    For those of you that still have an undamaged TV set may i make a recommendation ?
    Just watched “7500” on Amazon durring the film I…..

    1) had to pause twice
    2) Went in the kitchen 3 times.
    3) Shouted at the TV….7 times.

    So I got worked up entertained and excited and that’s what TV used to be about. You’ll never see the likes on the BBC.

    A very very well made film and very accurate, if you do get the chance watch it.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Agreed. Very tense, claustrophobic. Started slow but held you.

      Ordinarily I am not keen on such things but the direction and acting held us to the end. Despite a Hollywood lister, the ‘feel’ made it much less like a movie.

      Hope Jon and gang don’t go all Stuart Hughes on him.

      And no, can’t see the BBC airing it much less making such a movie.

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  10. Darcy3 says:

    A very covenient silence from the usual [email protected]:

    DOMINIC LAWSON: First they came for the statues, now stained glass windows. Yet one woman’s vile history is overlooked

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8469071/DOMINIC-LAWSON-came-statues-stained-glass-windows.html

    “The dons were too delicate to mention that the university outpost of Extinction Rebellion, supposedly in sympathy with Black Lives Matter, had spray-painted ‘Eugenics is genocide — Fisher must fall’ on the college’s Gate of Honour.”

    Oddly, though, there is one British eugenicist whose name is widely known outside the academic world. That person’s name is advertised in magazines and on hoardings, and it pulls in many millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money every year.

    I refer to Marie Stopes. The organisation bearing her name, Marie Stopes International, is perhaps the world’s biggest abortion provider.

    Not only are its operations in this country largely paid for by us as an adjunct to the NHS, its overseas work is given huge sums by the Department for International Development.

    Originally a brilliant plant palaeontologist, she became obsessed with human breeding, so fixated on this that she disinherited her son Harry for marrying a short-sighted woman (Mary Barnes Wallis, the daughter of the inventor of the ‘bouncing bomb’).

    Stopes wrote: ‘She has an inherited disease of the eyes which not only makes her wear hideous glasses so that it is horrid to look at her . . . I have the horror of our line being so contaminated . . . Mary and Harry are quite callous about the wrong to my family and the eugenic crime.’

    As the historian Geoffrey Alderman records: ‘This obsession led to her becoming a very proud public supporter of Nazism . . . she even sent Herr Hitler a collection of love poems.

    ‘In a poem she wrote in 1942, she declared: ‘Catholics and Prussians, the Jews and the Russians, All are a curse, Or something worse.’ ‘

    Yet this is the woman who, in 2008, was accorded the signal honour of having her portrait on a postage stamp. And only a few years ago there was a campaign to put up a statue of Stopes in Manchester.

    Given that part of her clinic’s original slogan was ‘A Sure Light in our Racial Darkness’, one wonders if it would now have required pulling down, almost as soon as it had been put up.

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    • pugnazious says:

      The BBC fully supports and promotes abortion, or ‘choice’….and anyone who wants to limit abortion is immoral and wicked….the Muslim Mishal Husain ironically complaining that the DUP, as a Christian party, were backward and unpleasant due to their views on abortion and gay marriage.[maybe she should check the Koran out]. Naturally part of the hate for Trump[and Rees Mogg] is because they oppose abortion…the Covington students wearing MAGA hats were on a march against abortion…hence the hate from Sopel……even when they were proved completely innocent of the allegations made against them, not least by the BBC, Sopel still smeared them and claimed they were ‘justifiably’ attacked….just note the very prejudiced and perjorative language he uses for the boys and the fact that he still lies about what happened….

      Jon Sopel: This time last Saturday it was all so straightforward. A video appears on Twitter. A group of teenage white boys are surrounding and jeering at a Native American who quietly, defiantly, is banging a tribal drum by the side of the Lincoln Memorial. One in particular, with a goofy grin and lips red from the cold, is standing right in his face and wearing a red Make America Great Again hat. The kids, from an all-boys Catholic school in Kentucky and nearly all wearing MAGA caps, had been in the nation’s capital for the annual Right to Life March – the big gathering of the anti-abortion lobby. They seem braying and boorish. Social media lit up. Moral essayists dipped their quills into their self-righteous inkwell and started opining about the state of American society. Where were the parents? Why has American youth been so coarsened? What had happened to respect for our elders? And, in particular, what did this say about the nastiness of Trump’s America? The council in Kentucky called for an inquiry. The school promised suspensions. The 65 year old Native American, Nathan Phillips, who was besieged, went on TV to lament their behaviour. Trump supporters were unusually sullen. 
      But then something odd happened. 24 hours later new smartphone video emerged painting a very different picture of the confrontation. A tiny group of African-American men are captured this time hurling vile abuse at the teenagers. They were from the fringiest of fringe organisations, the black Hebrew Israelites. They were abusing the Native Americans as well as the white boys. And whoosh! Social media lit up once again. The kids were singing out school chants this time as a way of drowning out the insults. Their restraint is now praised. Our teenage sinners from Covington High School are now saints. They’d been wronged. Donald Trump weighs in, blaming the media, exonerating the children. Now liberal America went a bit quiet. And the teenager, Nick Sandman, who’d been in the face of a tribal elder, took on a PR firm to act for him. He gave an exclusive interview to NBC’s breakfast show:

      Nick[student]: ‘My position is that I was not disrespectful to Mr Phillips. In hindsight I wish we could have walked away and avoided the whole thing, but I can’t say that I’m sorry for listening to him and standing there.’

      The elderly Native American had his life turned over. The Covington boys, who went from an ugly MAGA hat-wearing mob to pious Catholic students in a heartbeat, got a mauling too – perhaps justifiably. But maybe all of us who dabble in Twitter emerge with our reputations sullied.  Since when was truth ever simple? Why can’t we wait for more facts to emerge before passing judgment? Why do we seem so pre-programmed today to believe what we want to believe, and baulk when forced to listen to an opposing viewpoint? Whether it be Brexit, Question Time, Scottish independence, Trump, the wall, you name it, maybe we all have something to learn from what should have been a rather unremarkable confrontation at the Lincoln memorial last Friday. ‘

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    • ScottishCalvin says:

      If you want to wind up leftists, then yes Ghandi (and his anti-African views) is an ok subject but to really annoy them bring up Mary Seacole – the ‘forgotten’ BAME Florence Nightingale who had a few choice words to say about people from the Middle East (and most other places). You won’t see too many Guardian readers calling for her demonisation or erasure from history. As with the ‘liberal democrats’ it’s the utter hypocrisy and double standards of these people that annoy me, not the views that they (claim to) represent

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    • Lord Blagger says:

      You have missed off Beveridge. Perhaps we should get rid of his monument – the NHS

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  11. AsISeeIt says:

    The BBC in Wonderland

    ‘The US has had the most virus-linked deaths, followed by Brazil, the UK and Italy’

    Oh, really?

    But isn’t this story which you cover a hint that your main headline may likely be based on a lie?

    ‘China locks down 400,000 people after virus spike near Beijing’

    ‘Over the past 24 hours, Beijing reported 14 new cases of the virus, taking the total since a mid-June outbreak in a food market to 311.’

    ‘While this is a small number compared with the thousands of daily cases in the US or South America, China reacted quickly to contain any spread.’

    Could it be that our BBC are repeating word for word Chinese communist anti-US propaganda?

    “Alice laughed: “There’s no use trying,” she said; “one can’t believe impossible things.” “I daresay you haven’t had much practice,” said the Queen. “When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”

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  12. Dobyns says:

    Words fail me …

    A petition to fire Cambridge professor Priyamvada Gopal, who was promoted after tweeting that “White Lives Don’t Matter,” has been removed by Change.org after receiving over 20,000 signatures.

    https://trib.al/CkzoJTm

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    • StewGreen says:

      At least the Gofund me page for the sacked Burnley worker is still there .

      … oh, hang on
      ..It got removed too

      #Orwellian #Britain2020
      One rule for the purple skins
      and another for the red/green skins.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      I’m firmly of the belief that these petitions, from whichever side, are a total waste of time.

      But always fascinating to note which ones the BBC promotes and which it ignores.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Dobyns
      Do we know why? Does Change.org just decide , like youtube?

      In Cambridge on weekend anyone associated with trying to get her removed was ‘thought to be associated with a Far Right organisation’and Ms Gopal said if anything happens to her to blame Sara Vine, David Vance etc..WTF

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  13. Deborah says:

    On Saturday night Mr D and I went to the Viking exhibition at the British Museum, virtually of course. May I recommend it?

    It was a talk about the life of vikings through the exhibits. It was delivered by Michael Wood and Bettany Hughes. It was obviously not the BBC (and was I think 2014). It had the occasional less than perfect moment such as the music at the start drowning out the talking and an article nearly dropped. I assume the BBC with our almost unlimited funds can have as many retakes as is required. But the joy of no mention of climate change or ethnicity (no black slaves were mentioned in the making of this programme although I think slaves might have been) and role of women was talked about but not elevated beyond what the subject required.

    Who needs a tv license when excellence can be found elsewhere?

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  14. AsISeeIt says:

    Had to spend 10 minutes this morning navigating how to disable the unasked for news feed on my browser. It’s been distracting & annoying for some time but today assumed my willingness to absorb a report about bad US virus fears, a story attacking the UK tracing app & a piece about our expanding list of pronouns featuring ‘they’.

    The internet once offered the bright hope of freedom. Now one agenda is all-pervasive.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit – is that the BBC daily news thing people get – some call it the moaning emol or similar ? Apart from seeing what the enemy is doing the only thing it would do would be for them to think they are doing ‘good ‘.

      Also – via Parler – Douglas Murray explains ‘the game ‘ we are being invited to play about Race ..on Sky Australia – I take it to the extreme – using on PC terminology – I use coloured – I won’t use the lefts abbreviations any more – that sort of thing – until the law shuts me up ..

      Sky Australia reminds me of the function the BBC – ironically – played in the Second World War – as a beacon of truth sent out to the occupied lands … of which we are one ….

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    • Lord Blagger says:

      That is indeed the problem. It may well also be the solution. We get internet Ghettos.

      Parler is one example of that. When Twitter starts to notice people leaving, they start getting worried.

      Look at Zoom, came from nowhere. Takes on Skype etc.

      Same thing can happen to youtube although I think that’s harder.

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    • Lord Blagger says:

      That is indeed the problem. It may well also be the solution. We get internet Ghettos.

      Parler is one example of that. When Twitter starts to notice people leaving, they start getting worried.

      Look at Zoom, came from nowhere. Takes on Skype etc.

      Same thing can happen to youtube although I think that’s harder.

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    • Lord Blagger says:

      That is indeed the problem. It may well also be the solution. We get internet Ghettos.

      Parler is one example of that. When Twitter starts to notice people leaving, they start getting worried.

      Look at Zoom, came from nowhere. Takes on Skype etc.

      Same thing can happen to youtube although I think that’s harder.

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  15. AsISeeIt says:

    We shouldn’t be surprised that the BBC is pushing for something they term ‘change’ in the post-virus world.

    My local Sainburys has been displaying a slogan for at least a year now proclaiming it to be ‘making a difference’ in my area.

    I don’t particularly want, or see the need, for difference and change and I have a sneeking suspicion I won’t enjoy what these corporations have in mind.

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  16. pugnazious says:

    I didn’t realise tackling anti-Semitism was optional.

    Apparently it is.

    Nick Robinson had Keir Starmer in the hotseat at 08:10 and wanted to know….

    ‘Why did you choose not to back Rebecca Long-Bailey when accused of anti-Semitism…you chose not unity…but as John Lansman claims a reckless over-reaction…?’

    So yeah…it seems tackling anti-Semitism is optional…but then it always was with the BBC and they always chose first off to not tackle it, ignoring for a long time the accusations that surrounded Corbyn until the weight of evidence became too big and obvious to ignore credibly.

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    • AsISeeIt says:

      ‘tackling anti-Semitism… optional’

      BLM compulsory

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Strange – Robinson is Jewish isn’t he ? I would have thought that would have precluded the view that ‘unity ‘ in his party is more important than anti semitism …..

        …. but I suppose Robinson was only following orders ….
        At least the Corbyn faction can get on with the plotting … angie for leader !

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        • AsISeeIt says:

          Robinson was supposed to be a Tory

          Must be the office culture there at the BBC

          Dare we call it institutional leftism?

          On the subject of anti-jewish conspiracy theories, so dear to the heart of the Corbyn faction (& others) – I did enjoy one of Sacha Baron Cohen’s satirical gags.

          The sinking of the Titanic in 1912 was of course done by Israel. Iceberg, or was it a Goldberg?

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          • StewGreen says:

            Robinson a Tory, that’s a trope
            At university he was in the Conservatives and Peter Hitchens use to sell the Socialist Worker
            Peter doesn’t demonstrate any support of them now so we don’t call him a commie
            Likewise Robbo has never after university demonstrated any support for the Tories
            so why call him one ?

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        • Beltane says:

          Surely one of today’s greatest ironies, that Robinson, Maitless, Lansmann, Sackur, Kuenssberg and many other such ‘high profile’ media figures are Jewish.
          Are they, perhaps, ashamed of their heritage?

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          • BRISSLES says:

            You forgot the big one – Jon Sopel.

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          • Foscari says:

            I am not sure if Laura Kuenssberg would care if you said
            she was Jewish. It just happens that’s she is isn’t.
            The problem was that quite a few bright middle class
            Jewish kids went to university in the eighties and nineties.
            Many of them came from traditional Jewish homes.
            By the time their lecturers had indoctrinated them into
            their Marxist way of thinking , they were ripe material
            for employment at the BBC. Or like many of their generation, became the next “teachers” to indoctrinate
            the next set of undergraduates. And now in 2020 the
            chickens have come home to roost for those pioneers
            who followed the principles of Marx and Mao.

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            • Beltane says:

              Her grandmother(nee Samson) was Jewish and the faith descends through the matriarchal line, so technically she probably is – and that’s a line Streicher would be proud of!
              Whatever, as Brissles points out, Sopel takes her place far more than adequately.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    “So, mes Amis… we all take la move du Dick, vraiment…?”

    “Non!”

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  18. AsISeeIt says:

    Thoughts I had but didn’t post hereabouts

    Number 101

    A couple of weeks back (pre- the BLM explosion) when the BBC were banging on about the BAME community suffering disproportionately from the virus I had the mischievous notion that perhaps if we were to take the BBC’s concerns seriously then our BAME community ought to be quarantined in some way. For their own good. Certain districts and towns with high numbers of ethnically non-white population ought perhaps to be avoided?

    Many a true word said in jest.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53217095

    ‘Leicester lockdown: Restrictions could be extended for two weeks’

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit – I don’t know if you’ve read my posts over the last couple of weeks regarding the government report on the effect of covid on minorities – and the decision to not publish recommendations – the reason being – in my opinion – being that lock down control might need to be altered according to racial groups – I think I’ve written this x4 here now ….

      The government promised labour they’d publish the recommendations but have held off – and labour – I think haven’t pushed it because they are not even thick enough not to realise the consequences …

      …. eg a lot of coloured people not being able to be NHS medics and having to stay indoors …

      … I think the government is waiting – hoping for numbers to reduce and then put the recommendations out when Parliament can’t talk about them

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  19. Beltane says:

    Not the BBC – good old GMB and Piers Morgan, no less – but it might just as well have been.
    Within the space of five minutes, during a somewhat less than confrontational face-to-face with Skier, the man of the people was told that a popularity poll in the Mob-server – simply the Guardian in shorts – put him ahead of Boris and that UK covid deaths are the worst in the world.
    Facts.
    Apparently.
    PS Just learned that the Leader was being ‘grilled’ by Toenails on the BBC at the same time. That’s what you call balanced political coverage – as only our top TV can achieve.

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    • Guest Who says:

      One of those ‘think tanks’ the BBC likes…

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53214997?

      Extra £14bn needed a year for climate, report says
      By Roger Harrabin
      BBC environment analyst

      Well, Rog, most likely know a great place half that could come from, with no impact on anyone bar a few.

         19 likes

      • The Sage says:

        Have you noticed that Harrabin seems to do little or no analyzing and just gets paid for pushing out green propaganda?

           25 likes

        • Beltane says:

          Well yes, true, but his degree in English means the grammar is beyond reproach.

             16 likes

  20. tvlicensingblog says:

    New this week from the BBC TV Licensing Blog:
    TV Licence Evasion Charges: Lines of Defence
    BBC Launches TV Licensing Guilt Tripping Campaign

    If you haven’t already done so, please download our totally free ebook TV Licensing Laid Bare.

    The 70 page book is packed full of information about the ghastly way the BBC generates its revenue, via the TV licence system.

       21 likes

  21. StewGreen says:

    The BBC’s obsession with China
    the way it goes from one story about China to another
    the way it ridicules the Chinese President
    the way almost every voice it brings on is from the Chinese opposition
    … mind you I suppose that China and India are by far the biggest countries
    .. each having about 4 times the population of that smaller country the USA
    .. Oh hang on I’m wrong
    it’s not China that the BBC spends 60% of its time on its the USA
    .. That’s weird there are 7 billion people in the world
    focusing on 300 million, means ignoring 19 out of :20.

    The BBC’s obsession with America is a form of racism isn’t it ?

       24 likes

    • JimS says:

      I have heard there is land beyond Dover, some call it ‘the dark continent’ because nothing ever happens there!

         12 likes

  22. StewGreen says:

    Switched on R4 ..they were banging on about Trayvon Martin on R4Today
    (the black youth unjustly killed 8 years back(

    … then 9am they went into a discussion prog with black American authors
    talking about race.

       22 likes

    • pugnazious says:

      Tray von? Oh, Obama’s adopted son who was bashing the head of a hispanic man into the pavement…so he shot him….BBC narrative…

      ‘white man murders unarmed black man’

         26 likes

      • Darcy3 says:

        He should get together with Abotts kid,

           15 likes

      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        Indeed Pugnazious, the report by the controversial BBC’s controversial North America correspondent Aleem Maqbool, towards 9 a.m., was as bad as you surmise!

        In a potted history of recent killings of Blacks by police in the USA, Maqbool cited the cases of: (1) Trayvon Martin, who he stated had just been to the local store for candy when he was killed by George Zimmerman; (2) Michael Brown in Ferguson Missouri, who was unarmed when killed, leading to rioting and looting; (3) George Floyd in Minneapolis.

        The bias by omission in cases (1) and (2) was simply appalling. In (1), no mention that the known violent criminal Martin was on top of Zimmerman and beating him when his victim shot him in legitimate self-defence. In (2) no mention that the known criminal Brown struck a policeman and tried to grab his weapon. Even in (3) there was a lack of context about how things got to the infamous knee on the neck, and the presence of fentanyl in the ex-criminal Floyd’s body.

        This bias by omission is so bad that it is, to all intents and purposes, lying. Maqbool and the BBC are, for whatever reason, not telling the truth about what happened because so much relevant context is omitted, and thus misleading the public.

           30 likes

        • Van Helsing says:

          One suspects that Maqbool might just take his inspiration from Bismarck’s edited version of the Ems Telegram.

          Can someone — anyone – tell me why the UK public is, if they wish to watch live television from any provider, required to fund an organisation for whom truth is the undiscovered country not sought?

             16 likes

    • richard D says:

      Interesting turn of events the other day concerning the killing of Trayvon Martin (justifiable in the eyes of the law and the courts).

      The guy who shot him, George Zimmerman, was initially identified by all and sundry as a ‘white’ man. Some, because of their hatreds in other directions, even made vague claims that, because of his name, he must have been a Jewish white guy….

      Then, it turned out that he was Hispanic, but the shouty community claimed that this was close to being ‘white’ – so it was still the same as a white man killing a poor black boy who had done nothing worse than go out to buy a bag of ‘Skittles’ (never mind any other circumstances).

      But, of course these thing can blow back on people, because, in an entirely different context (i.e. BLM), Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the beloved spokeswoman of the extreme left wing (see what I did there ?) of the Democrat Party, declared that Hispanics were Black too, and should therefore join BLM in its destructive tendencies.

      So……what was claimed to be a racist crime when it happened, and ever since then, too, suddenly turns out to be a Black-on-Black killing according to the Democrats’ own beliefs…

      I bet that won’t go down well in some left-wing circles.

         34 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Richard
        Faultless logic – and im sure that the billion ? Plus hispanic people will look at AOC and just say ‘ air head ‘ …..

        Maybe she ll make a good defence witness ….

           6 likes

  23. pugnazious says:

    Sedwell gone….BBC filling airwaves with his supporters and criticism of the ‘resignation’….not a word of criticism for Sedwell himself and why he might not be welcome anymore.

    The BBC’s flamboyant and snarkey Norman Smith, not a fan of Boris, Brexit or the Tories, judging by the tone of most of his schtick, told us that…

    ‘The resignation came after a series of hostile briefings against him….critics of the resignation claiming the move was cowardly and corrosive.’

    So….what was said in these ‘hostile briefings’? Were they ‘hostile’ or just telling the plain old truth? Would be nice to know but Smith didn’t bother providing any further information or context to enlighten us.

    We did get those arch anti-Brexiteers and Labour supporters Gus O’Donnell and Lord Kerslake on to spread their toxic views…the usual goto suspects for the BBC when they want anything negative to be said about Boris and Co in relation to the civil service or indeed Brexit.

    As said no voices from the other side.

       53 likes

    • Beltane says:

      ‘No voices from the other side’ Pugz, but quite a lot of ‘look at Cummings in the background……’
      For those of an anti-Dominic persuasion this has his outrageously ungloved lockdown-breaking fingerprints all over it.

         13 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug – one of the lefty enemy papers – the a Guardian – has a strange ‘opinion piece ‘ about traitor sedwell . The guardian likes change – yet sedwell is a ‘career ‘ civil servant – spending his entire career turning Blighty into crap soup using various regimes to do it .

      Yet the biggest source of ‘change ‘ is Mr Cummings – whom the guardian has a special hate for —- the article mentions the ‘entire country ‘ was against him over the travel nonsense …which is not my memory of things , a lie told often enough ….
      Anyway – the sedwell character can go off with the other remainer peers and sulk, get plenty of cash from ‘sitting on boards ‘ as well as the book advance ….

      ….. I was thinking … since we are sort of done with the EU on 31 December – maybe the church bells can ring this time ….

         38 likes

      • theisland says:

        Yes my vote was, and is, for a peal or two from St Paul’s.

        In a similar vein, The Battle of Britain Memorial Trust is crowdfunding to help upkeep the National Memorial to the Few in Kent. This receives no public money and has lost income during the lockdown.

        https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/save-the-national-memorial-to-the-few

        Worth a tenner or more of anyone’s money – with the added bonus that we know the bBC, the left and the globalists despise such memorials to our nation’s history.

           12 likes

  24. Guest Who says:

    News. Apparently.

       9 likes

  25. JimS says:

    Over at IsTheBBCBiased a contributor complains about the guff that the BBC fills its website with, in this particular case an essay on the word ‘the’.

    (They play a neat trick where the extermination of the Jews is mentioned, immediately followed by President Trump’s use of the word – you have to follow the link to find out that it had nothing to do with the ‘final solution’ – but the Trump is a Nazi, no need to read further?).

    The flavour of the academic rigour (rigor?) can be seen by this:

    “Those in higher status positions also use ‘the’ more – it can be a signal of their prestige and (self) importance. And when we talk about ‘the prime minister’ or ‘the president’ it gives more power and authority to that role”.

    None of us has ever said ‘the cleaner’, ‘the receptionist’ or ‘the dustman’ of course!

    Maybe they think the BBC gives them status?

       18 likes

    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      I recall another dirty BBC Holocaust-related smear trick around a decade ago, when Paxman was interviewing then BNP leader Griffin on ‘Newsnight’.

      Griffin performed quite well under the circumstances and, near the end, Paxman got in one more punch, asking what method the BNP proposed for carrying out the party’s stated policy of having the death penalty. Paxman asked flippantly, “Gas-chambers?” Griffin smiled and stated the old British method of hanging. No disciplinary action or controversy, IIRC.

         14 likes

  26. StewGreen says:

    Guardian/Observer article about speech radio
    the photo captions
    Mike Graham wa described as ‘self styled anti woke’,
    Julia Hartley-Brewer as ‘Pro Brexit’
    Katie Hopkins as *far-right activist *
    whereas woke left-wing Newsnight reject Blames O’Brien is simply described as ‘LBC Host’.

       42 likes

  27. Fedup2 says:

    Times Radio
    Some half wit intervieweing Gus Odonnell about sacking the remainer sedwell – allowed him to get away with saying ‘ its about the best person for thr job – not about being a remainer or brexiter ‘

    O Donnell ( traitor remainer ) using the standard remainer argument when we know its a clear black and white issue.

    Remainers will do all they can to disable UK interests in favour of their EU friends and self interest…

    I bet there is a room in the BBC bunker with a lot of droids listening to the new ‘competition ‘ – i doubt theyll have much to worry about…..

    Theyre using the likes of ‘ libby ‘ someone an ex beeboid – for the paper review so no change in outlook by the looks of it …

    40 minutes of anti tory stuff between 10 and 1040 … off switch …

       23 likes

    • Darcy3 says:

      So no west indian one legged lezzas up for the job then ??? or are they all at the bbc already ?

         8 likes

  28. Fedup2 says:

    RT watch

    I dip in sometimes … today it is as vexed as ive seen over the New York Times alleging the Russian secret service for each western soldier the taliban killed in Afgee …
    Denials all round but the strength of the RT response suggests something true in it
    The source is ‘ anonymous’ which presumably means John Bolton selling his book ….

       6 likes

    • G says:

      Fed,
      I heard that somewhere yesterday. My own thoughts? Varied but I recall the same partisan actions were taken by the West (particularly the US), backing certain of the savages, was identical when the USSR were themselves engaged in Afghanistan. Goose and Gander come to mind.

         6 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        G
        Yes – iall part of the Great Game being played out for the umpteenth time ….

           4 likes

  29. G says:

    I think the US is in a far more parlous state than most people recognise. Particularly the US citizens.

    I have time for Sebastian Gorka particularly enjoy him being interviewed by the BBC. He simply won’t take their nonsense.
    I’ve been following the debate, ‘Stateside’ about what the POTUS should do about the Marxist uprising in its various forms. It seems the common logic goes that the Marxist Dems in control of cities and states should be left alone to sort out the problems they have created. A fig leaf?
    A few weeks ago, I did fear that if the POTUS followed through in his veiled threat to put the military in, he would be thwarted by the Marxist element in the Pentagon. Revealing:

    The West is on a knife edge and it could go either way. I agree with the statement that the coming US election will be the most important – EVER. For all of us. If President Trump fails, it will reverberate throughout the West and will swiftly herald the end of what’s left of so-called democracy.

       30 likes

  30. Thoughtful says:

    Here’s an idea.

    It’s high time this cowardly useless incompetent government protected the people for once and enshrined the right to freedom of speech in law.
    There should also be a crime of ‘no platforming’ denying others the right to express their views.

    Companies which stray from their core product into the arena of politics should be subject to VAT at 100%

    Companies which use their market dominance or size to make political demands should be subject to swingeing fines.

    So Starbucks, Coca Cola, Ben & Jerrys, L’Oreal would all see the price of their products double overnight, many of them don’t pay any tax anyway so loss of business taxes wouldn’t be an issue, other than for their shareholders.

    And lets face it with the way the cowardly bottler is squandering tax payers money the economy could do with every penny it can get.

       25 likes

  31. Doublethinker says:

    Woeful Welby, the extreme Wokist masquerading as the Christian ABC , has announced his review of statues and stained glass in churches and cathedrals to check if they are sufficiently PC for the BLM crowd. He believes that some will have to be removed. An idea for him to save money , could we just black up the statues , give em black faces , that will save money. Or perhaps to better reflect the racial mix of the population we could black em up once a month and scrub it off after the ‘black day’ was past. No need for Brown face because so few of em set foot in churches anyway. Of course as I imagine that most attendees in the CoE , if there are any left after this latest lunacy, are white why bother at all!
    This prat is the epitome of the mad Wokist and is taking an already frail CoE over the cliff. Can no one rid us of this turbulent priest?

       53 likes

    • Beltane says:

      Poor old Justin’s on a very slippery slope. All very well these dodgy statues and stained glass windows, what about that poor bloke nailed to a cross they seem so keen on?
      What about his human rights? And he can frighten the children.

         16 likes

      • JamesArthur says:

        Beltane
        I am not a religious person but am a Christian. It is my view that the Arch Bish is a woke non Christian.
        He has turned the church into a woke vehicle for his own prejudices and akin to Universities is now hateful of those that have built the organisation upon which he sits….
        What they don’t seem to realise or care is that they are like Guy Fawkes sitting on a bonfire throwing matches to their enemies…

           16 likes

        • Beltane says:

          I think the problem so perfectly personified by Welby is that Christianity doesn’t actually allow for human nature.
          It has for centuries fervently wished it were otherwise and has devoted many lives to good works in the earnest and sincere hope of change, but basically we’re all self-serving back-biting bastards at heart.
          Like it or not it’s what makes us human, but very few are humane.

             6 likes

          • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

            “Humanity: risen apes or fallen angels?” Discuss in up to 1000 words.

               7 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      That’s another tax issue. All ‘religious’ buildings whould lose their tax free status and pay the business rates – they want to preach politics, then they can pay the damn tax like everyone else.

         14 likes

  32. digg says:

    I don’t usually set much store by the output of “The Express” but this morning I noticed an article that is so “bent” that it is astounding in it’s pure bare-faced deceit. It’s all to do with the Duke of E and his driving habits.

    The headline by Claire Anderson screams: “Prince Philip caught DRIVING as Duke gets behind the wheel during lockdown” (notice how she managed to get a link to Coronavirus in there just to make it as bad as possible!)

    PRINCE PHILIP is said to have taken up driving again during lockdown at Windsor Castle just two years after he voluntarily gave up his licence.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1302040/prince-philip-news-driving-duke-of-edinburgh-windsor-castle-royal-family-latest

    However if you read on it is a theory that Philip “MAY” have considered using a golf cart to get around Windsor, NOT EVEN THAT HE ACTUALLY HAS DONE” even though she used the word “Caught” deliberately in the headline.

    This disgusting and biased article is so scummy and full of innuendo it is shameful and lazy, it’s pure bile and spite, there really are some obnoxious, untruthfull, hateful specimens in the MSM newsrooms including this particular creature who are hell-bent on attacking anyone they deem to be “The other side”.

       48 likes

  33. Fedup2 says:

    Double – strange how history repeats …. Henry VIII sending ‘commissioners ‘ around to destroy the monestries and steal their wealth – so welby sends out commissioners to vet our cultural and religious inheritance …..I suppose that fruitcake sentemu is in the background somewhere…
    Absolutely as mad as a box of frogs … I wanted to call him a really bad word but God stopped me !

       22 likes

  34. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – Has someone complained?

    The BBC have changed their heading but this item https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-53113685 is into its second week on the web-site, unlike the NASCAR Noose Truth which disappeared in 24 hours.

    It originally had a heading that was something like ‘Is a second Windrush Scandal about to erupt’. I bookmarked the original but the BBC have changed the title and my bookmark has changed with it. You need to screen grab as well to catch the BBC being devious.

       18 likes

  35. StewGreen says:

    BBC News Soap opera did India deaths in custody last night
    .. the take away was Muslims are the victims.
    In the real world in places like India people often die in big demonstrations all the time.
    Deaths in custody is about 5 EVERY DAY by BBC’s own stats
    Yet the same BBC goes mad about ONE death in America.
    … Indeed this was their in into this item
    “Since the death of George Floyd in America there have been calls in India about their deaths by police”
    FakeNews ..Indian NGOs have always called for action

    At the start of Covid in places like Delhi where BJP governs police did come hard on Muslims which led to a lot of tit for tat violence etc.
    But that is India

    Now this BBC report about Tamil Nadu did begin with a case where it said the victims are white
    cos their is a large Christian population
    It didn’t mention any ethnicity
    Crucially it didn’t mention BJP do NOT govern that state.
    .. the 3 minute report then went onto police against Muslims
    and that was the take away
    .. even though that was the violence from a month ago

    The web report is earlier than the video
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-53202707

       8 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      oops My mangled text there where I typed “white” instead of “Christian”
      correct “it said the 2 victims are Christian
      cos their is a large Christian population
      It didn’t mention any ethnicity, as regards the police”

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  36. BRISSLES says:

    So now the Americans have said that there is scientific evidence that wearing masks protects, (I must admit I’ve always felt the same, you only have to realise that’s why Medics wear them), but those plonkers in the early days of lockdown that were answering the publics questions on a daily basis, made it clear that masks wearing was not of benefit !! Jeezus how did these Professors (yes, you from Reading Uni) get their qualifications???? Of course its sneezing, coughing, the usual suspects that are the prime givers of the virus, but why take the risk and NOT wear a mask. In normal times dentists wear them – so if they weren’t of benefit why would they wear them ? and clinicians wear them. Well, I shall continue to wear mine for as long as it takes, but it shows that scientists and their ilk (like that prat Ferguson) have as much idea as my local milkman in the protocols to follow.

       18 likes

    • G says:

      Academic idiots the lot of them………….

         6 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      The cynic might suspect that ‘scientific’ advice operates something like this:
      March 2020 – there are few face masks available. China, the main source, has stopped exporting and indeed has repatriated several hundred million of them from Europe and the US. Scientific advice from WHO and US and UK governments: “Not proven that masks offer any protection, so not needed”
      June 2020 – Chinese factories have produced in excess of 80 billion facemasks and want to sell them. Scientific advice from WHO and US and UK: “Masks are essential to prevent the spead of coronavirus. Wear them at all times” (and the cheques are in the post to UN officials and tame politicians everywhere).

         28 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Masks work for medics cos they wear them correctly.
      Masks are iffy for the public, cos their hygiene standards are often like a 5 year old’s.
      They put on their mask without washing their hands
      keep touching it, collect load of microbes on it and on their chin
      Then pull their mask down onto their chin so they can speak on their mobile thus transferring microbes to the inside of the mask, and fingers
      etc.etc.

      However when I go to the rough end of town, I want those people to be wearing masks
      cos instead of staying home when they have a cough
      they come out to get cans of SpecialBrew and risk coughing all over me.
      I think that around here people now stay away from these areas
      and they are like chav ghettos.

         16 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Stew, it doesn’t really matter to you if a mask wearer compromises their mask. As long as they are wearing it over their mouth and/or nose when they cough or sneeze as you walk past, or they walk past you, that’s what counts.

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  37. BRISSLES says:

    Oh God, that bloody Sturgeon woman is on again, her droning voice is like daily water torture. Isn’t it time she stopped. Unlike No.10 she never hands the reins over to anyone else. Switched off.

       37 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      Brissels, if you lived up here and saw the subordinates you’d know why Wee Nippy never lets anyone else take the reins.

         21 likes

      • Beltane says:

        You’ve just done what we down south wish with all our hearts we could do….disregard Ian Blackford.

           12 likes

    • TrickCyclist says:

      BRISSLES,
      I just watched ITV News where Charlene White interviewed a female primary school teacher* and a female Muslim doctor.
      Aargh! My freaking ears!
      *The teacher was wearing a T-shirt with a cartoon whale under a rainbow on it. Save the gay whales?

         24 likes

  38. vlad says:

    The BBC ignores the phenomenon of people losing their jobs for the ‘crime’ of not bending the knee to BLM.

    In this vid one such victim argues that BLM is an extremist, far-left, anti-white, anti-family, anti-capitalist, terrorist organisation.

       25 likes

  39. theisland says:

    Thank goodness the people at Veterans for Britain have been keeping an eye on all these complicated shenanigans.

    @VeteransBritain 26m
    With Sedwill being ousted, it’s essential Boris Johnson grasps the opportunity to free the UK from the EU’s defence architecture.

    MPs don’t seem to have a clue and Whitehall civil servants have been playing fast and loose. You won’t see any of this on the bBC etc.

    It is a jigsaw, and Whitehall is right now considering which pieces to take out of the box. Like any jigsaw though, the more pieces you lock together, the clearer the picture. Or to mix metaphors; the more fingers you poke into the pie, the stickier your hands get.

       15 likes

  40. G.W.F. says:

    Juliet HB tries to work up a sense of outrage over Trump’s business about white power matter. I thought she might have departed from this faux outrage as required by the BBC. But she will push the Trump is a racist narrative until election day.

       14 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      And she also repeated the Charlottesville hoax (that he’d said neo-Nazis were very fine people). I was disappointed Nigel didn’t pick her up on that, but there probably wasn’t the time to do that and say what he came on to say.

         21 likes

  41. Woolwich says:

    I’ve been reading but haven’t contributed at all lately, the ongoing situation in which the Western World appears to be suffering from some form of mental breakdown is annoying and depressing me so I’m not as active on here as I could be. It’s not that I’m sticking my head in the sand, it’s just that wherever I look on the TV, even the most innocuous fluff programming, people are lying, deceiving, being economical with the truth, hiding facts, being wilfully ignorant and subjugating themselves to an anti democratic Marxist movement and it’s unhealthy to me. It even blew up at work when for the first time in over 35 years in the workplace I had an argument about the BLM movement with a colleague. What started as me saying that we should move on when he raised how we should be doing something to “raise awareness” because IMO politics does not belong in a business session, led to me being pressed on specifics and NOT cowering under peer pressure. It turns out that many of the people he’s “reached out to” have not thrown their full support behind him which he is disgusted by but I was heartened by.

    Anyway the reason for my post, Parler.

    I’ve had a Twitter account for many years, since the end of last year I’ve massively cut down the number of people I follow. All I wanted Twitter for was to see the odd good joke and follow my favourite bands so as not to miss tour dates etc as many use Twitter as their first line of communication. Predictably the signalling of virtue, probably as much to do with peer pressure as it is with genuine beliefs, has seen me massively cull who I’m following and to be honest I haven’t even been on Twitter now for several months. So out of interest I created a Parler account, not that I’ll use that much either but I wanted to temperature check it. It’s being promoted as a free speech platform but it seems to have taken on a more right wing than left wing slight. So that’ll be Far Right in the media. I’ve only looked at a relatively small amount of comments on the threads I’ve followed and here’s the thing. Are there some foul mouthed, bone headed, knuckle dragging, borderline/crossed the border Far Right racist comments made by some people? Yes there are, but no more and arguably far less than there are Far Left virtue signalling comments on Twitter. But here’s the thing, the majority of comments on the topics around BLM, Black Pound Day, language being altered so as to avoid perceived offence to others etc have mainly come across as reasoned and sorrowful. Sorrow that imperfect people in an imperfect country in imperfect times have in a few short weeks gone from getting along, muddling along and trying together, to being at each others’ throats because of “outwardly” skin colour alone. But scratch beneath the surface and it’s not skin colour per se, it’s politics and demographics fuelled by the MSM and which people who have never been taught to know better have unwittingly, or with great happiness, embraced to the detriment of kindess, compassion and common sense.

       43 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      Nice post Woolwich and can’t agree more. The MSM have a lot to answer for – and for the life of me they don’t seem to be making things better. It is almost as though they want riots and division – I can’t figure out why.
      Is it Brexit – elections? Who knows. But I do know that 90% of people in this country are not far left or far right and just want to knock along and treat people as you find them not judge them by the colour of their skin.
      MSM is losing the plot, and with it most of their viewers, listeners and readers

         40 likes

      • BRISSLES says:

        I have to agree with you JA. I live in a large village where we are largely BAME free, and of the few who do live here, there is no problem, we all rub along together fine. Admittedly I have no idea whether things would be different if we had huge estates of BAME communities in adjoining towns, but it appears to be city living where the problems occur.

           27 likes

      • Doublethinker says:

        I think that the assault on white people by the MSM is forcing many to move rightwards in their thinking. BLM says that you are either with us or against us and silence is counted as being against.
        If this assault continues then the middle of the roaders that you describe will have to choose to either bend the knee in public , no matter what their private views are, or openly stand against the BLM agenda like Matt Le Tissier or Fox have done and take the consequences. The BLM crowd want to force people to choose and to ferociously attack any who don’t take the knee. They think that thanks to the MSM they have the silent majority on their side. But if enough folks stand up to BLM they will be shown to be a paper tiger with little public support.

           45 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      I don’t have a Twitter or a parter account but if the latter is outside of the Woke orthodoxy control then there will certainly be efforts made to close it down. The more subscribers it has the greater the efforts to shut it down from the liberal Woke blob. One thing that those in charge of Parler should watch out for is infiltration by leftists who pose as far right and post the sort of stuff that offers the government a chance to crack down on it. Of course whilst Twitter etc are often ‘quoted’ by the MSM Parler will never be and never mentioned unless it is to attack it.

         20 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      Parler is right wing by definition because many on the right have been chased off Twitter. Therefore to find out what some on the right wish to say you need to be on Parler.

      I have my reservations about its long-term practicality, but for now it will do and has demonstrated the appetite for such a service.

         26 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Woolwich / James

      I do wonder whether there is an ‘controlling consciousness’
      over the activities of any bit of the MSMBBC ….I think they just get a ‘bone ‘ whether it be brexit – Cummings – the colour nonsense – and out run each other with it .

      They are all looking at each other – whether it be the lowest journo – up the chain to their senior command – to “impress’ by tick boxing ….
      And a fair size lump of the punters absorb it and use if for their own purpose – aided by the standard momentum type rentamob which turns up or sets up demos to get someone killed so that they can up the ante ….

      Plod running away just fuels the cycle ….. as well as events elsewhere fueled by social media …..

      Woolwich – like you I struggle with it . My exposure to the MSMBBC is almost accidental now – although I’ve always absorbed political stuff like a sponge since I was a kid . So it’s hard to adapt from long held habits – but not impossible – and change can be good …

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  42. Guest Who says:

    Trusted, transparent, impartial but, most of all… professional.

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  43. JamesArthur says:

    TWATO

    the BBC just can’t help it – I always thought Twato was about news..but apparently now it is social justice programme…huge amount of time on Racism in 1957 – USA Little Rock – basically white people are racists….are incapable of not being so.

    I am duly sick and tired of the sanctimonious narrative the BBC promote. Balance is not a word they seem to know.

    Just stop talking about racism – stop fanning the flames – and recognise that racism works in all directions it is not a one way White to Black street..

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  44. Ed Hitter says:

    I was still spluttering with disbelief at last night’s Countryfile claim that our countryside is somehow racist, when this latest pearl from the biased broadcaster hit the in-box.
    The Times reports that the editor-in-chief of the BBC’s Good Food is reviewing all its recipes for “cultural insensitivity”.
    Christine Hayes says some recipes which include broad-stroke language such as “Asian salad” will be removed or amended.
    The madness goes on. They’re coming for you – look out black pudding, brown rice, yellow split peas.
    Next up, Gardeners World. Not enough diversity in the vegetable plot. Racism among the runner beans. Why are there no black daises?
    And from the world of snooker – why it’s wrong the white ball gets to play all the shots.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Ed
      You have not been ‘ejukated proply’….if there are no BAMES anywhere it is, by default, racist – because the Left seem to believe that BAMEs need help/support to get in their cars and go somewhere.
      They can’t see that this is akin to the attitude of the original missionaries …and yet their actions are now seen as White Supremacist Racism…
      The Left are as dumb as a box of rocks…

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  45. BRISSLES says:

    Ah yes, but they have got their own song, “Black is Black” – Los Bravos, 1966.

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  46. G.W.F. says:

    Do you think this lot will protect us, uphold the law?

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  47. Deborah says:

    I had put off reading the Wimbledon email I had been sent a couple of days ago until today – apart from a white man and a white woman hazy in the background we had 3 people in 3 photos – Venus Williams, Coco Gauff and an anonymous (at least to me) black woman. 3 out of 3.

    I have deleted it.

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  48. Darcy3 says:

    Language barriers among Leicester’s Asian population could be one reason behind second Covid spike says councillor as city faces two-week lockdown extension

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8469725/Leicester-faces-extra-two-week-lockdown-pubs-hairdressers-staying-SHUT.html

    As one who has paid thousands for English lessons for wife as part of the immigration process I demand to know why there are “asians” in this country who cannot speak English and yet, presumably, hold a British passport

    ( know how in Luton with the backhanders to the examining boards, I understand from the local Luton news that £500 was the going rate which never quite got to the bbc news for some strange reason)

    Also another requirement is the ability to financially support oneself or a sponsor undertakes this, so poverty is no excuse whatsoever either. ( unless it is a fake application with fake sponsor)

    So laziness, dishonesty and corruption, or just bloody minded contempt of this country has lead to this and whos fault is that?

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    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      … and of course the BBC won’t ask why there are language barriers, because it might take them, and us, somewhere they don’t want to go. I did some English tuition some years ago with the bride-to-be of a friend of a friend. There are exams to pass and it isn’t a piece of cake; as you say, the process can be quite expensive. The whole system is imperfect but dishonesty is ok if you’re from one of the favoured groups.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      I gave a wry smile when a ‘business’ man in Leicester was interviewed – he ran a mobile phone shop. Probably knows how to calculate his profit, and how much tax to pay, and what benefits to claim, but his English was just about recognisable.

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      • Beltane says:

        With a name like Sir Peter Soulsby anyone would be forgiven for thinking the Mayor of Leicester was the truest of blue, but not so, he’s another committed socialist and Labour MP happy to assume the fringe benefits of the class system.
        And more than happy to damn the government with the BBC’s active encouragement.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Leicester twitter watch
          Film purporting to be of thousands of Leicester people standing around in groups in the High Street ‘ demonstrating’ by breathing on each other .,,.

          Pure coincidence that thr chinese plague has re visited them .

          And as for the PM – i think theyll be building Boris New Town for some lucky country dwellers ….

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  49. StewGreen says:

    How does Fakenews like the non-Islamic, non-terrorist attack in Bolton 22nd March get built up ?

    That is attack immediately comes ups as people say
    “Why is the killing of George Floyd given endless news time
    and the actual beheading of a 7 year old in Bolton almost none ?”
    It is a reasonable question.

    Unfortunately the Bolton attack does have a Fakenews element
    Sure there will be Islamic attacks in the UK
    but it’s not likely to be in a Bolton Park
    not singling out a 7 year old child like this Emily Jones
    whereas random nutter attacks can occur anywhere.

    The right talk on Twitter is still that the attacker of “Is a Muslim” “Is a Somali”
    How did that happen ?
    With no video and it being a mental health act thing there was an information vacuum.
    The perp’s name came out a week later on charging
    Eltiona Skana, if you look on Youtube there is an Albanian pop star with that first name Eltiona.

    Where did the idea come that the suspect was Somali?
    the first mention on Twitter was on March 31
    from an account that was immediately challenged, and that has now been closed.
    That got picked up by some Mickey Mouse news sites saying “social media says”
    The antifa were then able to make the righties look like idiots, cos the Daily Mail court report says the woman was from Albania wearing a crucifix.
    That crucifix doesn’t mean anything the perp could still be a Muslim Kosovan Albania etc. though usually Muslims tend to have Muslim names.
    That’s academic cos AFAIK there was indications of Islamic MO other than beheading
    No early tweets make claims like that she was wearing a burqa or shouting “Allahu Akbar” etc.

    However it is interesting that had immigration controls being proper the attack might not have happened
    Albanians are not supposed to come and live in the UK.
    The issue being that we have enough nutters already without importing more, and making a bigger risk of crime.

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