Midweek Thread 17 June 2020

We are witnessing the BBC morphing from a wholly biased anti British anti Right anti Judeo Christian propaganda machine into an undeclared Campaigning Operation without any controls or accountability. Its journalists AKA campaigners now preach from pulpits in the TV Studios on a daily basis ;
“ holding power to account” is now just a meaningless phrase for the BBC . Time to End it .

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666 Responses to Midweek Thread 17 June 2020

  1. G.W.F. says:

    Dame Vera Lynne has past away. RIP.

    The BBC have written their obituary, but we shall have to await the inevitable claim that she was a racist like every other white person.


    • Van Helsing says:


      She sang ‘ The WHITE Cliffs of Dover’, didn’t she?

      Case closed.


  2. Guest Who says:

    The dribble down across BBC platforms is as dire as it is inevitable.

    Here a local station decides to hide behind asking a question, and as daft a way to ask as possible, using that wonderful ‘we’…

    BBC Hereford & Worcester
    How important is it to be honest about how we teach history?
    Should we include more teaching of black history and the negative sides to Britain’s history?
    It’s as campaigners have said protests will continue while the controversial statue of colonialist Cecil Rhodes remains at Oriel College in Oxford.
    What did you learn about in history at school?
    Oxford’s Oriel College voted to remove the colonialist’s statue but removal will not be immediate.

    Rhodes protesters to fight on while statue remains
    Oxford’s Oriel College voted to remove the colonialist’s statue but removal will not be immediate.

    Despite their best efforts… #CCBGB


  3. Fedup2 says:

    Funny isnt it when i was a kid i had a summer job cleaning schools . One of them was Brampton in East Ham . I didnt know until today she went there . I calculated how old she d have been then – in the late 1970s… i hope she had a good life .


  4. BRISSLES says:

    An unbelievable admission from fatty Boulton on air, that he didn’t know until today that We’ll Meet Again, and The White Cliffs of Dover were TWO separate songs !!

    I am totally at a loss for words (and that doesn’t happen often).


    • theisland says:

      Fatty is 61 years old!! How did he ever get a job anywhere?
      It just goes to show what we are up against.


    • StewGreen says:

      Boulton is a foreigner , didn’t grow up here.
      No I’m wrong must have mixed him up with someone else.


  5. BRISSLES says:

    I am finding it grating that the journalists who are reporting the death of Vera Lynn, are young, female and with voices that have no gravitas at all, they speak as though they are reading the McDonalds menu.


    • TrickCyclist says:

      I agree that, great lady that she was, Dame Vera Lynn deserves a better epitaph than those given by today’s TV bimbos.
      Then again, Gracie Fields’ death was tearfully announced at a Liberal Party conference by Rochdale MP Cyril Smith. So it could be worse.


      • The WestWyvern says:

        AntiBeeb told me during their radio propaganda, sorry news items that Dame Vera was an ‘outspoken’ campaigner for veterans.

        ‘Outspoken’… In who’s eyes BBC? Only you lot.


        Midday update, they now refer to her as an ‘ambassador’

        #still scummedia


  6. Darcy3 says:

    On a beach in Norfolk the other day and wanted some reading matter, so bought a history magazine, lookng through it later noticed strange articles such as

    southern racism and Harper Lee

    misogyny surrounding scientist Rosalind Franklin

    Britains working mothers in the 20th century

    git a bit sick of it and looked at the magazine cover again…oh FFS it is a bbc history magazine with the bbc in small print easily missed

    Can’t even avoid their stinking agenda in printed matter

    Southwold heard some choice Anglo Saxon that day


    • StewGreen says:

      AFAIK BBC sold of the magazine division years ago
      but they still all push the same BBC pet agendas.
      “In late 2011 the BBC’s magazine-publishing business was sold to Exponent .”


      • Darcy3 says:

        BBC History Magazine and BBC World Histories Magazine are published by Immediate Media Company Limited under licence from BBC Studios Distribution.


        • Guest Who says:

          Proppa ‘istry by the BBC for kids is from Nish.


          Oodles of diversity… nothing troubling to the narrative.

          They should play it in Oxford.


    • The Sage says:

      Your voice must really carry across counties if it reached Southwold from Norfolk.


  7. Darcy3 says:

    And back to bbc news and some indian immigrant lecturing us about who we can and cannot put in statues

    I could say a lot about the [email protected] state of his mother country

    including slavery, child abuse, poverty, disease, the caste system, racism, rape and religious intolerance that would put Rhodes to shame


  8. StewGreen says:

    @talkRADIO now
    Conservative lack woman “Esther Krakue is superb in her views of the BLM organisation.
    At last a woman who sees this country as a safe place for everyone without ignoring the fact that individuals maybe racists but the country is not.
    She is someone everyone needs to take a lead from.”

    ‘bringing US politics over here
    and trying to change out politics
    is a form of COLONIALISM’
    “black American activists give me a lot hate
    eg calling the Nword or C*on”


    • StewGreen says:

      video : Conservative black woman Esther Krakue
      on @talkRADIO earlier


  9. theisland says:


    • The WestWyvern says:

      And of course a non story for the Beeb.

      That RIB (Rigid Inflatable Boat) looks brand new. The outboard alone is going to be costing around £15k.

      Who is funding and aiding this filth? The U.K. and French Governments, Soros?

      I’m spitting blood about this, I’m minded to head up to Kent and take law into my own hands.

      DEFRA have this week issued further notice to charter skippers regarding operation with passengers during CVD19.

      The new rules, covering elf n safety, mean that most boats are now tied up in port, unlike, ironically at the height of the lockdown.

      Perhaps a ploy to keep interested parties (Farage) off the water to record this invasion?


      • cromwell says:

        Do you think Patel gets to know half of these off her Twitter feed that people send. As her account is manned by her ahem . assistants.
        Do you think these posts and the amount of boats daily are kept from her?. I would love to know. I have thought about this for a while now.


    • theisland says:

      stephen @LFC_blano
      Further Update: Boat number 3 with another 6 Illegal Migrants on board
      Thats around 40 for today so far!


  10. Doobster78 says:

    Perhaps next week, all the Virtue Signalling footballers could have the name of a girl assaulted in Rotherham on their shirts ?

    You know, for balance and all that.


    • StewGreen says:

      ” Rotherham Lives Matter”

      13 black guys died at the hands of police in 10 years
      Sad not right.
      Vs 5,000+ underage age girls groomed/raped/prostituted multiple times.
      Where is the libmob outrage, Piers Morgan ? Ash ?


    • Guest Who says:

      Statistically the number of young ladies assaulted by footballers might interest #MeToo.


  11. StewGreen says:

    Forgot to say about the PC Keith Palmer memorial
    ..this guy peeing near it is such a fake outrage bus.
    My instant thought is that; plaque is right next to the pavement.
    I expect that some dim person has already let their dog pee on it.

    Some one tweeted
    Apparently #Metpolice and @UKParliament thought so highly of PC Keith Palmer
    they thought having a ground level memorial,
    which could be peed on by every passing dog,
    was proportionate for the sacrifice he made?


  12. fakenewswatcher says:

    stew -manipulation and propaganda are the order of the day, but that’s well-observed


  13. StewGreen says:

    Are you sweating today under 2020 Climate Change as predicted by BBC ?


    • The WestWyvern says:

      Hahahah. Love this as I watch steady rain falling in Westy world.

      Perhaps the AntiBBC forecaster was confusing the temperatures on the chart with that of his birthplace.


  14. StewGreen says:

    Teachers admit being lefty preachers


  15. StewGreen says:

    Peter Hitchens harassed by crowd following him

    Yet when a single protester interrupted Anna Soubry on tow occasions London’s chief magistrate made sure she served jail time.
    Red/Green-skins get soft justice.
    Purple-skinss get harsh justice.
    #Orwellian #Britain2020

    Stayin Alive remix


    • JimS says:

      I expect the policemen is waiting to arrest Hitchens if he steps on the pavement cracks or displays any supemacist swagger!


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Thanks for this one, Guest Who. I liked the following, from one “Springmellon”, reacting to the Comment Central piece:

      “70%+ of the output is repeats. When it’s not repeats it’s mostly low grade trash. As a source of news and current affairs it is so discredited as to be worthless. The nature shows are one long insufferable finger wag about global warming. Even when it puts some money in to a quality drama it’s guaranteed that it will be ruined by the insertion of some leaden political agenda.

      Nobody should be forced to pay not to watch incredibly poor content while having a political agenda stuffed down their throat.

      If the Government is too cowardly for a frontal assault then the best way forward would be decriminalize the Licence [sic] Fee and set the fines low. When the Licences [sic] start [to] get cancelled en masse, the BBC will be begging to switch to a subscription model.”


  16. Dave S says:

    Just hit the off button again. BBC news . Raab will not go down on one knee. Bad bad thing according to that idiot BBC droid Smith?
    We need to get this straight. Nobody in my family has ever gone down on their knees other than at the point of a sword or a gun. End of the matter.
    It is a sign of subjugation. Defund the BBC.


  17. Ian Rushlow says:

    “Calls Grow for Raab to Quit”
    There are growing calls for Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab to resign after saying he would not ‘Take the Knee’, thereby giving implicit support for slavery, police brutality and the murder of black people. He also said that he would only do so for the Queen and his wife, thereby also showing his support for the monarchy and patriarchy, which are also issues opposed by Black Lives Matter More.

    On Thursday, a confused Labour spokesperson said “How embarrassing. Isn’t he interested in US politics? (btw, he could have asked his civil servants where it comes from & they would have told him). And no, I don’t know what US politics has to do with Premier League football and ripping down statues in the UK, either.”

    “Calls Grow for Raab to Quit” – a headline coming soon to the BBC.



    • Despairada says:

      I’m getting so angry about this assumption that everyone must agree with BLM. Every news item that I hear carries this assumption.

      I don’t have TV and only have about 10% attention on the radio. Is this the universal attitude in the media, on the chatty sofa programmes and the current affairs programmes? Does no one at all ever point out that BLM is an anarchist marxist organisation and racist in itself so no reasonable person should support it? Has no one read out what’s on their website? Does no one read the actual crime statistics instead of lazily assuming that all white police go hunting black folks to shoot for a bit of recreation?

      And then there’s that other matter of the ‘racist’ statues. Is there no discussion of the role of African tribes and Arabs in slavery such that, logically, all the mosques should be demolished?

      On the Radio 4 news late last night, some soppy voiced newsreader announced the footballers bending the knee in their BLM tee shirts and Oriel college intending to get rid of Rhodes statue. Her tone of voice was one of subdued joy and approval, as if she knew that all right thinking people would be pleased about it. It was the tone of the headmistress of a primary school reporting that all the children were behaving nicely now.


  18. Dave S says:

    The BBC and the rest will shed a few crocodile tears over the passing of Dame Vera but in their hearts ( do they have them ) they will welcome another break with old England and it’s past and people.
    Dame Vera was one of the last of that generation. Those who in Russia are celebrated as the Immortal Regiment and honoured .
    Can any of us imagine what would happen if the Russian war memorial was desecrated as the Cenotaph was ?
    Or in Poland or even France?
    The BBC despises us who are the heirs to the generations of old England. Let us return as we should the favour and despise them .
    Defund the BBC now.


  19. Beltane says:

    Always good to be cheered by the profound knowledge of Sir David King, leader of the Provisional wing of SAGE, set up to provide a more considered and properly researched body of opinion than that used by the government – and quite naturally preferred by the BBC.
    Somehow he gives the impression that his group of eminent scientists are much better eminent scientists than the other eminent scientists the vile Tories seem to prefer – perhaps because their politics are a shade more to the left of Mao?
    You’d think, with all his high principles, that knighthood would be returned in the post.


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Funny. If you’re a ‘King’, then surely the ‘Sir’ is a bit superfluous. King, as in ‘King Cnut’ [anagram].


  20. Sluff says:

    Mmmmmm. Interesting, a case of clear bias by comparison of approach.

    Caught by chance on BBC news channel Wee Krankie’s coronavirus briefing, where she announced the relaxation of the Scotland CV19 rules.

    She speaks too quickly but I have to say she presented well and went through a lot of detail, and admitted that the new rules are necessarily complex and that there are sure to be a myriad of situations not explicitly covered.

    Here’s the thing. Can you imagine the BBC attitude if Boris did this?
    What whingeing would they come up with? What line would Doomsberg, Knobsob, Useless, and the rest take?
    Choose from…..

    Too complex.
    A shambles.
    Does not cover wheelchair bound black transgender people who want to use the toilet.
    Not enough detail.
    Goes too far and will put people at risk.
    Does not go far enough.

    You just absolutely know the BBC would be instantly hammering away, looking to undermine at every conceivable opportunity.

    But when it comes to Wee Krankie, it’s a different story. In fact there was no story at all. At the end, zero commentary. ‘And now, over to the weather’.

    A clearer case of bias would be hard to identify


  21. Sluff says:

    Doom and gloom on the 1 pm news.
    BBC report that a quarter of people cannot be contacted through Test and Trace.

    And guess who the BBC ask for a quote on this?
    Well done Beltane above, 30 minutes before the event.
    It was………Sir David King !!!!!!

    In other news but not announced as such by the BBC………three quarters of people successfully contacted through Test and Trace.


  22. fakenewswatcher says:

    On beeb TV 1 news at 13h00 we see that at least SOMEONE IN GOVERNMENT HAS GOT IT!
    WELL DONE!!!
    Thank heavens, a little bit of courage goes public. He will only do the Black Power salute, oh sorry, bend the knee to HM the Queen, and his wife.
    He thinks its all about subordination. He’s got it.
    AT LAST!!!

    Duncan Kennedy is in Ditchling to talk about Vera Lynn. How weird is that?
    Wonder whether they will erect a statue for her somewhere?
    Save the money maybe? Not everyone is a Dominic Raab.

    But beeb are on a roll. Statues coming down, black power salutes on our football lawns, everyone bending in subordination, NOW THEY HAVE A GO AT TRUMP, who was apparently put in power by China. Bolton’s free gift to the MSM, to add to George Floyd, and all the other stuff.
    And I thought it was RUSSIA wot done it?


    • Roland Deschain says:

      It’s a shame Mr Chicken then went and spoiled it.

      Which will have impressed precisely no one who’s likely to vote for him. Why do they do it? Stick to your guns, you morons.


  23. theleftwilleatitself says:

    As someone on here alluded to last week, the ‘Don’t Look Back In Anger’ gang are now actively looking back in anger!!! 🤐
    Such hypocrisy but not a peep from al beeb 🤔


    • StewGreen says:

      Why – when children are blown up at a UK concert,
      we “don’t look back in anger” and light a candle.

      When a black man is killed by police 4000 miles away,
      we have to kneel to blm,
      accept that our country and our history being defaced?


  24. G says:

    Macron visits the UK.

    I hope he doesn’t get his trousers wet on the way. I know the rubber boats have a tendency to get their passengers wet.


  25. Roland Deschain says:

    Always fascinating to note which subjects set Soapy on an orgy of tweeting and which he’d prefer not to bring to your attention.


  26. Foscari says:

    I listened live to Dominic Raab this morning live on the
    Julia Hartley-Brewer interview this morning on Talkradio .
    As soon as he he mentioned the only two
    reasons he would go down on one knee I knew he would
    be in “stueck” (trouble) You may call this an anachronism
    but this going down on one knee is a latter day anarchist salute!
    So just as the England football team in 1938 made their
    infamous Nazi salute in 1938 when playing Germany in Berlin.
    It is now going to be expected for footballers in every league
    match now to go down on one knee before a match.Woe betide
    any player who doesn’t!
    1984 springs to mind. The analogy will now be that the BBC is
    BIG BROTHER which in fact it has been for the last 10 years at least. And you will see that Dominic Raab will be Winston Smith.
    And we know what happened to poor Winston.


    • StewGreen says:

      Raab backtracking


      • Guest Who says:

        Frankie Howerd Operation Gotcha Pre-Pro #34578

        “We need to get in asap someone credible who the public respect to really stick this knife in with what people think”

        “That Ed bloke? The other one?

        “Perfect. Have another pay rise team!”.


        • Fedup2 says:

          See – the mistake Conservative MPs make is engaging with the Enemy MSM at all ……..


      • Dave S says:

        It was not bad considering the state of things here now. He could have apologised and beat his breast in supplication.


  27. BRISSLES says:

    Good on Dom Raab ! he’s clearly not going to kowtow to the mob. But it just shows how the answer to a controversial question, can be spun every which way, and I’m surprised any politician agrees to answer media questions – they’d hang you as soon as look at you. I hope more follows suit.


  28. StewGreen says:

    I spotted the @StanCollymore Twitter account going crazy over last weekend
    shouting it was all about “far right” and making out they were all doing Nazi salutes.
    Ultimately his evidence was one guy who having an argument with police and as he walked away turns back to look at them & shouts Seig Heil & does a Nazi salute .. seeming to me he is calling THEM the Nazis.

    .. I tend to think a lot of blue tick Twitter counts are mostly run by the PR flunkies rather than the star itself.
    – A person who uses the FR-word is just the same as a person who uses the N-word
    they are showing they are not interested in honest debate,
    but rather prefer to MONSTER & DISMISS political opponents.
    I’d describe it that there was a mixed crowd a fraction of which were bolshy football fans, some of whom maybe like street fighting.

    This bogeyman storytelling that if their is a crowd against BLM they are all Far Right Monsters is a nasty PR trick.
    And the way it is used against WHITE people seems racist.


    • StewGreen says:

      An RT article takes issue with the BBC and media.

      British politicians and the MSM have sent a clear message
      to the white working class for decades: ‘You don’t matter’

      “Far right”, “Nazis” & “racists”
      are epithets used by the liberal elite
      as an excuse to demonise patriotic Brits
      who offend their metropolitan sensibilities’

      \\ And what evidence did the media provide for them being racist?
      It boiled down to ‘Well, just look at them.’
      Shaven-headed, pasty-faced, tattooed men covering themselves in the Cross of St George.//



      • TrickCyclist says:

        Thanks for posting this, that link is worth reading.

        Footnote: I hate to get into full-on nerd mode about serious subjects, but I’m reminded of this, so here goes.
        In 1980 Euston Films (makers of The Sweeney) made a now long-forgotten puppet TV movie called Stainless Steel And The Star-Spies. It was basically a spoof of the likes of Star Trek, with it’s notions of limitless power via Matter and Anti-Matter – except that in Stainless Steel the two states the universe was divided into were Matter. . . and Don’t-Matter.
        In the current MSM universe, the white working-class are definitely made of Don’t-Matter.


  29. StewGreen says:

    Class Guardian journalism you may have missed
    “Priti Patel *linked* with monument protection campaign organiser”

    \\ Linked doing a lot of work there.
    A cousin of a friend of someone Priti once saw down the road. Seriously guardian get a grip. //


    • Van Helsing says:


      And there was me thinking that the Grauniad’s highly-principled (it says here) staff would have resigned en masse when the source of its founders wealth became known…


  30. TrickCyclist says:

    The killing of Rayshard Brooks: There are reports around that Atlanta Police officers have caught the “Blue Flu” and aren’t showing up for work, in other words a strike in all but name.
    I can’t find anything on the BBC, though?


    • G.W.F. says:

      I wonder if the cop who arrested St Rayshard Brooks were aware that he was on probation for beating up his wife and kids.

      George Floyd: high on fentanyl and trying to use a counterfeit bill after 9 prison stints.

      Rayshard Brooks: drunk-driving while on probation for beating his wife & kids.

      Why don’t you COWARDS stop pretending these people were changing their lives?



    • Roland Deschain says:

      I’ve seen reports on Twitter that those monitoring police radio traffic found it largely silent. I remain to be convinced it’s more than wishful thinking as I’ve seen nothing concrete as yet.


      • Dave S says:

        I spent much time in Atlanta in the 80s. Most of the police were black and hard cases. . I got picked up walking home from a bar late one night and slung in the back of the car . If I had not been English I would have been slung in jail. They just kicked me out of the car. I learned fast.. never argue with a US cop and never answer like a smart arse.


        • Fedup2 says:

          My first visit to the states was also a revelation . I walked up to a stationary patrol car( out in the sticks – Midwest ) wanting to ask for directions . I thought I was going to get shot . Day light – I’m white …..
          The second time I made the mistake of going for a walk and got stopped by the cops – “why would anyone wanna walk ?” I was asked …

          Strangely I did some work in New York and found the patrol cops a bit more relaxed …. but there was a lot of them ….


          • Van Helsing says:

            My only experience with US cops was in Boston, where two cops (one white, one black) stopped the traffic so that my girlfriend and I could cross the road. They chatted away happily to us and even gave my girlfriend a Boston PD teddy bear as a gift.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Trick – if your ve seen the 2 minutes video – you could understand why they’d feel so strongly that their colleagues are being wronged in being charged with murder . And if he is convicted I think they’d give up .


      • TrickCyclist says:

        I haven’t, I’ll have to find it.
        Re: Your reply to Dave S, above: A year or two ago there was a documentary filmed in a U.S. gun shop (to their credit, I think it was on C4). The shop staff came across as informed, personable and civilised. When the owner was asked by black customers about the danger of being shot by police, he quoted the then recent incident when a black man told officers “I have a gun.”
        He continued to explain that this can sound like a threat to nervous police officers, so it’s much better to say, “I am a licensed gun owner.”
        Gun ownership in the U.S. is a minefield for police and public alike.


  31. StewGreen says:

    Guy Birchall on RT again
    A British CNN
    If even the BBC’s ‘bias investigator’ is biased,
    it’s time they admitted what they are
    Abolish the licence fee, let it fully embrace its true nature
    and let a British Fox News come into existence
    to counterbalance its lefty narrative



  32. StewGreen says:

    2:15pm Radio4 Drama : Rumpole
    … guys it is the same repeat that you broadcast last Thursday.
    £4.4bn/year of professionalism.


    • Swelter says:

      Surprised Rumpole hasn’t been deemed unacceptable .


      • Fedup2 says:

        The original is hidden away on ‘Talking Pictures” Wednesday nights – although I always thought John Mortimer was a typical lefty luvvie …


        • Van Helsing says:


          Mortimer was a bit of a lefty. His Rumpole books were pretty good fun, though.


  33. vlad says:

    Pope Gaga the First (or Papa Gaga as I affectionately think of him) calls for “establishment of pathways” for hundreds of thousands of Muslim migrants to settle in Europe.

    That’s right Papa, as if we don’t have enough problems without inviting more.

    Meanwhile the useless globalist socialist Pope ignores the fate of thousands of Christians throughout the muslim world who are victimised, persecuted, tortured or murdered every day.

    Even the creepy Guardian called it genocide. I eagerly await worldwide outrage and riots. Oh I forgot, Christian Lives Don’t Matter.




  34. vlad says:

    And talking about ‘migrants’ from muslim countries, did you know that under Saint O’bama-of-Mecca Christian refugees from the war-torn Middle East were systematically blocked from entering the US in favour of his muslim buddies?

    Hey beeb, there’s a story there for your fearless investigative reporters speaking truth to power bla bla.





  35. TrickCyclist says:

    On the same Family & Education page of BBC News:
    “Malaysian student sits exams in a tree to access wifi”
    (Poor Third World kid has to sit outside for education = Bad)
    “Scottish Green call for ‘outdoor learning'”
    (Coronavirus – let poor Scottish kids sit outside for education = Good)


  36. digg says:

    I believe that there is underground activity going on via directives issued by Activist organisations to “followers” employed in various industries which I find sinister.

    I am involved in the creative industry through self-employment and have been for many years.

    This morning I coincidentally have had two emails from two different USA based content library companies for photos and illustration etc. I have both bought and sold content from these in the past.

    Both emails carry virtually the same message or perhaps better described as instructions.

    The messages are highly political pushing me to get behind both the BLM and LGBT causes in any way I can through both my creative submissions, purchases and personal behaviour.

    This sort of partisan action is at least creepy and certainly has no place in any open business dealings.

    My guess is that brainwashed “plants” are being carefully placed into businesses that have an online presence or reputation and these “plants”, usually I guess typically university graduates in the marketing departments etc. are trying to “socially engineer” their employers by using the threat or fear of being called out as racist or any other of the totally bollox trigger-words they use.

    We have all seen companies ‘adapt’ either their message or brands after facing pressure but this is a new and much harder attack from within the companies themselves.

    I expect to see this trend grow.

    The only way to fight back is with your wallet. It will take a rising awareness of what is going on behind the scenes to encourage ordinary folk to boycot any company who agrees to bow down to these dangerous people.

    Everything I describe here has already been in operation within the BBC and other infested MSM organisations.

    Needless to say I have today removed all my content from both these outfits and requested they close my account. I will of course not be buying or selling through either again.


    • Charlie Farley says:

      I see on the news “Lloyds” and ” Green King ” have appolagized for a slavery history…..this is appalling I have been drinking Abbot Ale for years and didn’t know the companies past …..should I abstain from their excellent brew and boycott them or just have another pint in support of them ….dilemma or what !
      Presumably Lloyds because insuring slave ships.


      • JamesArthur says:

        Same dilemma…but along with all newspapers. Starbucks the premier league tetleys , pg tips, national trust…greenking will now be foregone…letters to all….


        • Charlie Farley says:

          I can’t see any end to all this ,
          Its utter madness , if you give in to bulleys they just come after you even harder and that’s what’s happening , l see Green King was sold in 2019 for over 2 Billion to a Hong Kong asset company ( asset stripping ? )


  37. Jeff says:

    Is there anyone, I mean anyone at all, in the present government that actually possesses testicles…with the possible (metaphorical) exception of the very pretty, Priti?
    Dominic Raab actually said something this morning that I agreed with. “Taking the knee suggests subjugation…” Yep, 100 percent!

    Now the pathetic sap is backtracking. “Oh, of course I have the utmost respect for Black Lives Matter and I support their aims…” Why? Has this feeble specimen not read their manifesto? They want to overturn democracy. They want to rewrite our history. These creatures are ultra left-wing anarchists. Their interest in black lives is purely for convenience.
    It panders to the perennial grievance mongering that some blacks seem to enjoy having and it feeds the hideous and severely creepy liberal guilt that a lot of white middle class pseuds try to inflict on the rest of us.

    Don’t ever backtrack, it will never be enough. Already Raab’s toe-curling attempt at explanation has created another big push telling him “It’s not enough!”

    I’m afraid that our pathetic and appeasing government are part of the problem. These anarchists only respect strength. They know they’re pushing at an open door. The recent film I saw about Churchill was pretty poor, but it did have a really good line that summed up his attitude to the Nazis. “You don’t negotiate with a tiger when your head is in its mouth.”

    Perhaps someone should quote that line to Raab…


    • G says:

      “Oh, of course I have the utmost respect for Black Lives Matter and I support their aims…”.
      I’m not surprised at all. Got to admire his honesty though. I concluded some while ago that many in our current Labour Government were supporters of the Marxist philosophy. For Raab to admit that support for Marxism and the destruction of (in effect) the Western World, indirectly, is no surprise to me. Like the US political elite, they’ve been assiduously working at it for decades.


    • Doublethinker says:

      I wonder why no mass circ newspaper has dared to put a screen shot on the front page of the BLM agenda which is on their website fund raising page. At least it was n June 10th.
      This agenda includes
      # the dismantling of imperialism (?) , they can’t mean the UK as we gave it up seventy years ago.
      # the overthrow of capitalism , which of course has increased the standard of living of billions of people in the past century.
      # the dismantling of state structures
      # the overthrow of the patriarchy , I assume they don’t mean white monogamous marriage but the Muslim version where men are worth much more than women.

      I don’t suppose many of those who are giving money to BLM have idea that they are funding Marxists intent on destroying their way of life. The world is full of useful idiots.


  38. infoquest says:

    On The Mail website:-
    The BBC has invited staff to apply for voluntary redundancy as it attempts to make £125million in savings this year due to the coronavirus pandemic.
    The comments section is fun, if you want cheering up on this wet, horrid day 🙂


    • Doobster78 says:

      Great comments. Nice to see there is a awful lot of folk wanting rid of Lineker !!!

      £1.75 million of our money per year, for reading a auto cue. Its robbery.

      If there’s one person that i just simply cannot stand its him. His Lefty, sanctimonious tweeting. Black lives, Brexit, Boris etc . he just cant seem to Virtue Signal enough these days.

      Championing the “little” person, the “hard done to immigrants” the poor kids who don’t have lunch , but have iphones and xbox’s , whilst all the time taking nearly £2million in tax payer money and signalling his virtue from his mansion.

      Everything that’s wrong with the BBC right there. Same with Maitliss.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Doob – there was an article in the mail yesterday – Wednesday – which I think someone here put a link on – about the tax avoidance scheme Lineker was involved in .

        Now – although I’m an amateur – I love tax avoidance schemes – so I had a look at the case decision which went against Lineker and his socialist lovely friends …….
        Like a lot of tax avoidance schemes they look complicated but once they are boiled down you can see that people take part just to avoid tax – as did Lineker …
        Don’t get me wrong – I admire anyone who can avoid tax – but I don’t admire those profess false social justice schemes but avoid their civic responsibility pay paying the taxes needed to keep the public services they love going .

        I’d just like to see taxes used effectively and public money not wasted or stolen – such as with DFID .


  39. StewGreen says:

    .. highly ironic twitterfeed


  40. StewGreen says:

    4:30pm R4 Film prog looks weaponised for BLM agenda pushing
    The Film Programme’s recommendation for 3 films to stream this week
    movies that shed some light on race relations in America.”

    – Spike Lee’s BlacKkKlansman,

    – Monsters And Men 2018
    (One night, in front of a bodega in Brooklyn’s Bed-Stuy neighborhood, Manny Ortega witnesses a white police officer wrongfully gun down a neighborhood street hustler, and Manny films the incident on his phone. )

    – Sorry To Bother You (In an alternate present-day version of Oakland, … As his friends and co-workers organize in protest of corporate oppression, Cassius falls under the spell of his company’s cocaine-snorting CEO )


  41. StewGreen says:

    More on poor Dev from Leicester
    I just looked at Jack DawkinsReturns on Twitter
    Saw … this post and video
    This boy is sat in the conservatory of his detached house in Leicestershire.
    Facebook photos show his family enjoying foreign holidays and designer clothes,
    and his family has multiple iPhones, iPads and laptops.
    Does he really NEED free school meals?!

    similar tweet


  42. pugnazious says:

    Listening to the world service this morning and they had a long report on another police shooting of a peaceable, unarmed black man in America.


    We were told the victim had been entirely compliant and did not resist arrest at all…the police then shot him in the back.

    Not true. Of course. The real story had been out the previous night…how did the BBC miss it?

    Herre’s what the Georgia Bureau of Investigation tells us….

    ‘The GBI has obtained additional surveillance video from the Wendy’s restaurant. Agents have also reviewed video posted on social media. These new videos indicate that during a physical struggle with officers, Brooks obtained one of the officer’s Tasers and began to flee from the scene. Officers pursued Brooks on foot and during the chase, Brooks turned and pointed the Taser at the officer. The officer fired his weapon, striking Brooks. ‘

    So pretty much a similar tale to what happened to Michael Brown in Ferguson when he attacked a police officer, tried to take his gun and was shot.

    Not peaceful, did resist arrest and did threaten the officers.

    The BBC literally telling the world that this police officer murdered a black man in cold blood when it never happened.
    The BBC whipping up a dangerous fury and desire for revenge with its deadly misinformation…the officers hung, drawn and quartered on the programme and declared guilty of a racist killing…the only voice being a black activist more than happy to tell us how racist America is…egged on by a BBC presenter who wanted to know how this racist killing will affect things in America.


    • StewGreen says:

      Pug I’d always heard on the media that he had resisted arrested snatched the Taser, fired it in the air, and the officers had shot
      ..Did the BBC really leave out the bit about him and the taser ? they didn’t in this video

      but call him UNARMED whereas the police say a Taser counts as a deadly weapon


      • pugnazious says:

        World serrvice news as linked….unarmed, compliant and not resisting.


    • JimS says:

      That is so sad to watch. Two police officers being remarkably patient and then the situation suddenly changes.

      Fight or flight seems to be hard-wired into people and I don’t think any of us could be certain how we would react.

      With the benefit of hindsight the one mistake that the DUI certified officer made was not to tell Brooks that he intended to arrest him, so the move to put the handcuffs on was unexpected and triggered Brooks to ‘fight or flight’.

      I don’t envy anyone who has a job that can suddely flip from the slow, boring, procedural into fast-moving unpredictability.


  43. Guest Who says:

    Complete with massive poster image.

    As far as not tweeting stupidity, Toenails in his own league.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest – bearing in mind that sky journos have been told to shut up and keep their political leanings secret ( as if) one might have thought the likes of this super egoed mouth would have learned to stay off Twitter and just bask in his self importance for 3 hours each morning ….


  44. pugnazious says:

    Vera Lynn has sadly died at the good old age of 103….great! One less old, white, bigoted racist in the country. Crocodile tears from the BBC presenters this morning as they talked about her and her life….after having spent three years denigrating her generation and hoping they would die off quickly.

    I suspect Vera Lynn died of shame as she saw what was being done to the country her generation suffered for, fought for and died for….its values, beliefs, history and even its people trashed, vilified and demonised by the BBC and its ilk.


  45. pugnazious says:

    Caught a bit about a new programme on feminism…don’t know when or where….but apparently Feminism is over, it’s become a victim culture peddling grievances.

    I kind of suspect the BBC is dumping feminism for transgenderism and this is part of that as they seek to discredit and downplay any problems real women have and to delegitimise their complaints, rightful, about transgender ‘women’ claiming to be women and being able to move into women only spaces.

    Is this the end of Woman’s Hour? Note the recent recruit[?] to WH….the BBC playing ‘Blackface’ as it slots in ever more Bames to appease the Terror….



  46. richard D says:

    I have this crazy image in my head regarding the football match last night, where the ref blew his whistle, and everybody genuflected to BLM mania.

    The image in my mind is one guy, not cowed by these totalitarians, refusing to prostrate himself before the hypocrites, suddenly running forward, dribbling the ball up the field and scoring – after all, hadn’t the referee technically started the match by blowing his whistle ?

    Or, perhaps, this was just another, different, virtue-signalling gesture, surely to be followed by many others of a similar ilk, each trying to out-do the others in their cringe-making, shameful, obeisance to the new gods ?


    • pugnazious says:

      Doubt it will happen….look at the s**tstorm that hit Lawrence Fox….will he work again? Such tolerance, diversity and respect for other opinions, ideas and ‘difference’ by the liberal progressives.


  47. Fedup2 says:

    Twitter watch

    Someone added up the year expenses claims for 5 MPs – it adds up to £40k more than the paint job for the PMs plane / blackford claimed almost £212k . Lammy £193k … scum davey £176k . Snouts


  48. pugnazious says:

    More footage of the Rayshard Brooks’ struggle and shooting…


    • JimS says:

      Coming to a city near you?


    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      It’s the first time I’ve watched that but the black dude got what he deserved. You can’t nick a policeman’s taser and then aim it at them 😬
      But maybe he should have shot lower 🤔


    • Fedup2 says:

      Thank you for putting that up – the video I’d seen wasn’t as clear or ‘forensic ‘ as that . I stick with my view that the murder charge is just political . There is no malice there . They treated the chap fairly and , I thought , respectfully until he started fighting the handcuffs . Must be hard being a cop in America now …… I fear a lot more will be killed because of hesitation to pull the trigger when they needed to ….. but it’s another country’s problem – not ours ….


  49. StewGreen says:

    Leicester man accused of racial abuse of BBC presenter Shima Koteca to stand trial .

    Russell Rawlingson, 50, was bailed with a trial date due to take place in the week of September 7.

    AFAIK they played a trick of charging with just harassment which contradicted the BBC story
    And then at last minute added in a racial element which mean the BBC story fitted.

    I don’t know what the offensive phrase was supposed to be
    but he put up an unedited 30 min lifestream of them packing up
    and they don’t tell him to go away or anything.