Midweek Thread 17 June 2020

We are witnessing the BBC morphing from a wholly biased anti British anti Right anti Judeo Christian propaganda machine into an undeclared Campaigning Operation without any controls or accountability. Its journalists AKA campaigners now preach from pulpits in the TV Studios on a daily basis ;
“ holding power to account” is now just a meaningless phrase for the BBC . Time to End it .

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666 Responses to Midweek Thread 17 June 2020

  1. tvlicensingblog says:

    New from the BBC TV Licensing Blog in the last hour:

    BBC Bosses Skewered by MPs Over Bias and Inaccuracy


    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      ⬆️ “Emily Maitlisssss’ soliloquy” 😄
      I called it that on here at the time, I wonder if he reads this site 😉


  2. StewGreen says:

    The media have spent 3 years lecturing us
    .. “working class WHITE people are THICK, cos they voted they voted Brexit”

    Now all of a sudden they are saying
    ” there is a problem in this country with racism & inflammatory language”

    Annunziata Rees-Mogg just said she can’t be on social media cos of the attacks
    attacks that are made just cos of here surname
    … Is that a form of racism ?
    That posh conservative white people are far game.


    • Tabs says:

      BBCs Have Your Say comments are full of “gammon this” and “gammon that”. Same on twitter.

      It seems you can type what you like about white skinned people and attach any sterotype you see fit but you can’t even speak the truth about any particular non white person.


  3. tamimisledus says:

    This week I shall be mainly wearing my white tee shirt with white text – “White lives Matter”.
    I have mothballed by racist black shirt.


  4. G.W.F. says:

    Report from the Guardian, a newspaper founded on the profits of slavery. A socialist utopia is being created. Please please Mr President, don’t remove them. The history of socialism is about perfect societies put down by evil capitalists. Leave them be, let them turn into another Jonestown and provide us all with a lesson in socialism.



  5. StewGreen says:

    SkyNewsAust Outsiders prog again talking sense


  6. StewGreen says:

    OK JHB has gone loopy and says things this Youtube clip like
    “The white good guy carried out a protester, we think was just an N-word”

    sorry my typo “The good BLM guy carried out a white protester who we THINK was from a Far Right group”

    Why the heck is she using a MONSTERISING label without having proper evidence ?

    She also said “A man from a far right organisation urinating next to”
    .. I’m not currently aware that that guy is from a “far right organisation”

    Look at the comments on that Youtube video
    when ordered by vote
    The comments that say stop shouting “far right” get much more votes , but are not at the top of the list
    as if they’d been pushed down the list by vast numbers of hidden Downvotes.


  7. StewGreen says:

    Caller “Other countries have 2 shifts at schools
    ..so why are our teachers moaning school is IMPOSSIBLE
    cos there isn’t space”


  8. Up2snuff says:

    BBC WEB-SITE Watch #1 – Significant item of news missing

    With Willie Thorne dying all over the BBC w-s you would think that they might have made space for a significant item of news from the USA. You would think.

    Especially as it involves (in Europe) a BBC Favourite: Nick Clegg. Facebook are to guard against overseas involvement in the November US Presidential Election. In addition, all US targeted advertising on Facebook will have to carry the name of the sponsor, as it does on TV and radio.

    All this despite Nick Clegg’s claim on the TOADY Prog a long time ago that the two, not one, internal reviews at Facebook had found no meddling in the 2016 EU Referendum in the UK and the US Presidential Election later the same year.

    Why doesn’t the BBC mention this important item of news on its web-site? Especially after all the fuss and exaggerated claims it carried all over the Corporation’s output (by Beeboids as well as ‘outsiders’) that both votes were ‘influenced’ and affected by outsiders.

    Is it because the BBC’s opportunities to meddle in the US Presidential Election will be restricted by this? Soapy and the Walnut One and other Beeboids will have to mind their Ps and Qs when they post and re-post on Facebook in future.


  9. Ed Hitter says:

    The BBC’s negative narrative is a million miles away from what folks in the real world want to hear.
    For instance, scroll down down the BBC website home page this morning and you’ll see the following: “Rashford seeks more change after food voucher win”; “Black Durham trainee vicar denied job at ‘white’ church”; “X Factor’s Misha B claims show pushed ‘angry black girl narrative’ on her”.
    But you won’t see any reference at all about the following stories (my headlines, sorry): “World welcomes stunning U.K. Covid drug breakthrough”; “British exports could increase by £1billion as trade deal talks open with Australia, New Zealand”; “Taxpayers’ group hails scrapping of international aid department”.
    Big, positive news developments, all shunted into the background by the biased BBC.


    • Beltane says:

      When you make those direct comparisons Ed, it’s clear that the policy goes beyond bias, it is spite.
      Pure, simple and embarrassingly childish spite.


  10. Beltane says:

    Only a cursory glance at the 14 ‘academics’ and the letter they have written to complain of their vice-Chancellor’s remarks on Mandela and Rhodes must beg the question: How on earth is Oxford still regarded as a world-leading university?
    And perhaps more to the point: How long do they think they can keep up the pretence?


  11. Thoughtful says:

    Just watch this, sorry it’s long, but it’s worth it. How Socialism and idiotic lefties have been allowed to destroy the once great North West city of Seattle. What it doesn’t answer is the sheer idiocy of the people who vote to allow this to continue.


    • JimS says:

      I watched this earlier.

      Essentially Seatle has adopted a very lax policy on drug use and drug carrying. They also aren’t too bothered if people camp on the streets wherever they like.

      It isn’t worth arresting anyone because they will be quickly released. The result is a mixture of people with drug and mental health issues out loose on the streets.

      Seatle politicians say they have a housing problem.

      Rhode Island, on the other hand, locks them up and puts them on substitute drugs both inside and outside prison after release. People on the programme say it has saved their lives. The ‘compassionate’ Seatle programme turns a blind-eye to the ill and makes life hell for the rest of the city.

      An interesting graphic makes out San Francisco to be even worse, New York is one of the best.


      • Thoughtful says:

        It’s worse than that though. I hear this in other British cities with lunatic mayors like Burnham who are saying the same things.

        People are travelling to Seattle because of its lax drug laws, the Police are giving up, like they have here.

        Then when Antifa comes along to seize the city the media here don’t want to report it – like the civil wars in French cities. Those who refuse to learn the mistakes of even the present are bound to repeat them. Only we can’t learn if we aren’t even told.


      • Up2snuff says:

        The same is true of Baltimore, a City that I think has had an administration always in the hands of the Democratic Party. Could be wrong on that.


  12. BRISSLES says:

    Dawn Butler as a talking head on Sky in a 3 way debate with Beff Rigby, talking a load of b……cks as usual. Its all very well giving non whites more outward coverage in all aspects of life, but sadly few are articulate and even less have a modicum of intelligence. But like the adverts we will now see a 50/50 split in everything on the tele, so the 87% to 13% ratio has been thrown on the fire.


    • JimS says:

      The Brown people really don’t like the Black people so that should work well.


  13. StewGreen says:

    Why did the government roll with the “Toris did a U-turn” narrative ?
    Maybe cos it sends a signals that the government
    * has listened to a black football player and changed its school policy. *


  14. Thoughtful says:

    Why the media are making such a big deal out of the 55 year old white guy who was rescued from a crown by a large Black guy.

    Imagine what might have happened if the White guy had been murdered by BLM? The illusory lie spun by the scum media would have rapidly unravelled. The lie about peaceful protest would have been revealed. The lie about ‘far right activist’ would have been revealed and the whole tangled web would have come crashing down around their ears.

    They must have all breathed a collective sigh of relief of ‘phew that was close’, because it wasn’t the white guy who was saved, it was the lying scum media.


    • StewGreen says:

      Why are there no stories of a WHITE PERSON rescuing a BLACK person from a mob of WHITE attackers ?

      ..is it cos despite being MONSTERED with the boo-word label “far right”
      There were no white mobs intent on harming black people ?


    • BRISSLES says:

      The rescuer did say that had the BLM protesters kicked the white guy to the extent he died as a result, then with the headlines and outrage, that would have finished the BLM as a force in this country. And he’s right.


      • JimS says:

        Do you think so?

        Kriss Donald (2 July 1988 – 15 March 2004) was a 15-year-old white Scottish boy who was kidnapped and murdered in Glasgow in 2004 by a gang of men of Pakistani origin, some of whom fled to Pakistan after the crime. Daanish Zahid, Imran Shahid, Zeeshan Shahid and Mohammed Faisal Mustaq were later found guilty of racially motivated murder and sentenced to life imprisonment.

        On 15 March 2004, Donald was abducted from Kenmure Street by five men associated with a local British Pakistani gang led by Imran Shahid. The kidnapping was ostensibly revenge for an attack on Shahid at a nightclub in Glasgow city centre the night before by a local white gang, and Donald was chosen as an example of a “white boy from the McCulloch Street area” despite having no involvement in the nightclub attack or in any gang activity.

        Donald was taken on a 200-mile journey to Dundee and back while his kidnappers made phone calls looking for a house to take him to. Having no success at this, they returned to Glasgow and took him to the Clyde Walkway, near Celtic Football Club’s training ground. There, they held his arms (ascertained due to an absence of defensive wounds) and stabbed him multiple times. He sustained internal injuries to three arteries, one of his lungs, his liver and a kidney. He was doused in petrol and set on fire as he bled to death.

        The BBC has been criticised by some viewers because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself. Although admitting that the BBC had “got it wrong”, the organisation’s Head of Newsgathering, Fran Unsworth, largely rejected the suggestion that Donald’s race played a part in the lack of reportage, instead claiming it was mostly a product of “Scottish blindness”. In preference to reporting the verdict the organisation found the time to report the opening of a new arts centre in Gateshead in its running order. The BBC again faced criticisms for its failure to cover the second trial in its main bulletins, waiting until day 18 to mention the issue and Peter Horrocks of the BBC apologised for the organisation’s further failings.


  15. StewGreen says:

    English Heritage fears cos it has “English” in its name it might get taken for a “far right” org
    so it Virtue Signals ‘no we are metro liberals too’


  16. StewGreen says:

    John Cleese : The dramaqueening storytellers MISREPRESENTED me
    Well that’s their technique to the story more SCARY by MISREPRESENTING what people said/did


  17. theisland says:

    Twelve out of 15 in this bBC list are run by Labour. The remainder have no overall control.


  18. Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

    BBC Propaganda to British Children Has Gone Into Overdrive Today:


    Note the also the pushing of white privilege and telling children how to use their white privilege to “fight” racism. The BBC are turning the next generation of British kids into activists.

    I have also seen the BBC pushing the name of Professor Kehinde Andrews who is a Professor of Black Studies at Birmingham City University, England. He is someone who has made a very successful academic career out of “finding racism” in contemporary English Society and elsewhere.


  19. fakenewswatcher says:

    Norman Smith says there is a lack of ‘grip’ and ‘leadership’ in No10 on beeb TV1 news. He could be right. But I differ on the interpretation of ‘why’.
    Government DOES NOT LEARN.
    Marcus R is now saying, what he’s done in summer, must now be carried on, and he intends doing that.
    So government/No10 will have to learn, yet again, that any concession to the whole ‘black’ thing, is merely going to encourage the next set of demands, however well it is disguised.
    Beeb is promoting race-baiter Raheem S telling us defiently, he’s never going to ‘tire of being black’. he has that same expression and tone as he has when he has dived, and the ref has had the audacity of not giving him the free kick or penalty. Refs will now be really fearful of any negative decision re him. Aggresive body language.
    Never going to tire..Duh.
    I’m never going to tire of being white. Can’t help it. But I don’t think, on its own, it’s anything to shout about.
    What a stupid campaign of beeb to promote.
    Beeb asks MR what his next focus is. He doesn’t want ‘this to be the end of it’. Maybe they could fish around for a Labour seat in parliament for him?
    Then again, no need.
    Footballers and rioters now make government policy.
    And I’m not even against anyone who genuinely doesn’t have food, from being given it.
    But we notice how this issue is being fudged, and put in the pot with other issues, always to give you the same theme.


  20. Roland Deschain says:

    “British imperialist Cecil Rhodes”

    No agenda, no sirree.


    • dfhunter says:

      new online survey results – British public would say yes to Students at Oxford University college pulling the whole University down.
      make it a Premier Inn said one student (aka Joe Soap).


  21. Jeff says:

    It would seem we have footballers now as government advisors…
    The Marcus Rashford policy on free school meals wasn’t even contested by our bovine prime minister, he just did as he was told.
    I don’t necessarily disagree with Rashford, it’s the pathetic supplication by our PM that makes my toes curl. God, Boris is spineless!

    What next?
    Maybe we’ll have Wayne Rooney advising the government on its post Brexit fiscal policy.
    How about Alan Shearer discussing the intricacies of the exchange rate mechanism…whilst also trying to explain the latest guidance on the off-side rule.
    And maybe we’ll hear from that other political luminary, Ian Wright, passing on his thoughts regarding our trading relationship with China.

    Before you know it numerous others connected with the beautiful game will be offering their insights.

    Blimey, we might even hear from Gary Lineker…


    • BRISSLES says:

      And Dion Dublin ex footballer and now ‘expert’ on Homes Under the Hammer, could start advising the Housing Minister about housing the poor migrants who wash up on our shores.


    • Justaddalcohol says:

      Yes, nice one Marcus Rashford. Just read several reports (from the end of May), of how parents are trying to use those school vouchers to buy alcohol and cigarettes. When refused – not all vouchers specify they are only for food – checkout cashiers are being abused. You will never see this on the BBC, but it just goes to show, that just like food banks – open them, and the people will come…


  22. Celtic_Mist says:

    Why does the BBC Parliament ‘show’ start at 12.35 when questions to the PM starts at 12.00?

    Could it be that the BBC want to use the ‘bias by omission’ tactic to later selectively show clips when Starmer ‘appears’ to be winning?

    Today, Boris destroyed Starmer so I doubt we will see that in later news bulletins.

    Thankfully we don’t require the ‘services’ of the far-left BBC because Parliament TV is streamed online


    Technology has moved on and we don’t need old infrastructure where the only way to watch TV was terrestrial or satellite, both of these are virtually redundant


  23. Celtic_Mist says:

    Tucker Carlson Is Most-Watched Host In Cable News For Last Week


    Tucker and Nigel Farage are among the few with the guts to speak the truth

    “With an average total audience of four million viewers, Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson finished the week of June 8 through June 14 as the most-watched host in all of cable news, despite the decision by some advertisers to abandon his program over comments Carlson made about the Black Lives Matter movement.

    Tucker Carlson Tonight finished ahead of FNC’s usual first-place finisher, Hannity, which ended the week in second place with 3.9 million viewers, followed by The Ingraham Angle (3.5 million total viewers) according to ratings data compiled by Nielsen.

    Last week, Carlson drew criticism for remarks he made about Black Lives Matter, saying “this may be a lot of things, this moment we are living through, but it is definitely not about black lives, and remember that when they come for you. And at this rate, they will.”

    Most Popular In: Media


  24. Guest Who says:

    Should there be a vestige of doubt the bbc now sees itself as the opposition…

    …whilst giving the opposition a pass on most areas the opposition is as conflicted upon as any other poor sap.


  25. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    The bame victims of COVID are 15% from a population percentage that is 13-14% bame.

    When you include the well over a million illegals, those who are here but not counted, it would put the bame covid victims under the population percentage they represent.

    If the virus is racist it seems to be against the whites.

    Also, the premier league is starting again.

    Does anyone know the kick off times because after all the clapping, taking the knee, minutes silences and various other virtue signalling goings on are completed it will delay kick off times.
    Then, they can start playing in their multi sloganned shirts plastered with the blm, nhs and various other virtue signalling slogans (no space to put their names on the shirts so we know who is who, probably racist anyway, everything else is)



    • BRISSLES says:

      Love it Emm. ! With no names, it might flummox the female commentators, so they might have to identify by hairstyles.


    • Concrete sea says:

      And the commentary for us viewers will be ” BLM passes to BLM who shoots, brilliant save by BLM, but the rebound is knocked in by BLM, who takes his seasons goal tally to 25, two ahead of BLM.”


  26. Celtic_Mist says:

    NB Tucker will run for Potus 2024


  27. AsISeeIt says:

    We go over now to Old Trafford where football fans, for what seems like almost weeks now have been starved of the game they love, and are eagerly awaiting the return of BBC commentary to once again take them up the Stretford End.

    I see the good-humoured crowds have brought hundreds of comical inflatables into the ground – oh, wait a minute, those inflatables ARE the crowd. This match being played behind closed doors of course.

    A moment’s silence, respectfully observed by the empty terraces – it’s so nice to see that. Exactly what we’re anxious to see more of in the modern game.

    Manchester United players have already kicked off, attacking the goal far to their Left, and coming from Right-on.

    The Referee’s Assistant is on the touchline, she is desperately signalling something… err, is that an off-side? No, play on, she was just virtue signalling.

    The Ref is taking out his spray can and… is that a free kick? No, he’s just doing some grafitti slogans over the Yorkshire Tea adverts on the pitchside hordings. Nice to see that.

    A couple of new rules have been hurriedly brought in by the English FA with FIFA acting as honest broker and giving their approval in return for the traditional backhander.

    There will now be unlimited substitutes and unlimited player salaries, of course. No spitting will be allowed for obvious reasons and no tackling the black players. Any gay players that come out on the pitch will be quite a result since they will count for double points in that crucial gay promotion race.

    Speaking of the promotion race – race will be promoted at all times and the Referee will be keeping a close eye on that with the help of video technology in the form of support from the BLM Referees tweeting messages through from their secret location if they think he’s missed an infringement by a white player.


    • Beltane says:

      For those in the crowd striving with obesity challenges and who might require counselling having been referred to as ‘comic inflatables’ there is a help-line number: 0800 808080.
      Please phone in complete confidence or if you prefer, go on-line at: [email protected]


  28. Celtic_Mist says:

    It’s difficult sometimes to keep up and this no exception

    The fact that this is reported by the failing Independent should serve as a warning


    “The cast of W1A reunited for a lockdown special, and it’s gone down extremely well with fans of the BBC’s self-parody.

    W1A is a spoof documentary about BBC employees, taking aim at everything from their fold-up bicycles to their corporate jargon.

    My take is that the BBC knows it’s screwed, or more precisely it screwed itself, and this is it experimenting with online delivery of its propaganda via social media

    The f*****s start with what look like harmless ‘comedy’ but it later morphs into vechicles for ‘progressive’culture change

    If anyone knows better I’d like to hear?


  29. digg says:

    Our Sally Nugget interviewing Rashford gleefully questions him with words to the effect “Now that you have forced Boris to do an embarrassing U turn whats next?”

    I have an idea! Maybe Mr. A could set up an international inquiry into the behaviour of the host of multi-billionaire kings and leaders of most African Countries and in particular into how they treat their ordinary citizens.

    Whilst immigrants and their children into the UK are normally in receipt of all the benefits of our free society including Social Welfare, Health Services, Free Schooling etc. Plus are able if talented enough to rise to the top in Sport, Politics, Education, Law etc. etc. whilst the vast majority of the population in their ancestors Countries live in abject poverty, disease and often violent suppression whilst their leaders enjoy a fabulous life of total luxury and travel the World to buy jewellery, private aircraft, yachts etc. Many are on the boards of International Organisation such is their power, Influence and wealth mostly earned off the backs of their subjects.

    A bit of re-balancing there might not be amiss!

    Food for thought Mr Rashford?


  30. theisland says:

    Today’s new claimants so far


    • G.W.F. says:

      Arriving here like returning soldiers or mercenaries and the government appears to be fulfilling a promise to them.
      Why else would there be no action against this illegal business?

      As for Priti. Either she is complicit or needs to speak up and destroy the Government


    • Cooper_Man says:

      I detailed this particular operation yesterday morning on the previous thread – the ‘Fourmentin’ spent hours slowly zig-zagging its way across the channel at 1-2 knots when, just before it got half way, the ‘Speedwell’ left Dover to rendezvous with it. They both then went a few kilometres north-east for another rendezvous, before each departing for their respective home ports. This isn’t ‘search and rescue’ – it’s a straight out blatant taxi service provided by the French and British governments.


  31. Celtic_Mist says:

    WTF is going on?


  32. digg says:

    After presiding over the most stringent lock-down measures in London Khan is now bleating, nay demanding that the taxpayer bail out his stupid decisions which tossed the majority of London’s tax-payers out of work.


    So where the hell does he expect this cash to come from?

    I saw this step coming and I expect it to be massive before long as the power-mongers, so anxious to be seen “protecting the NHS” realise the effect of their draconian enforcing measures.

    The recking is coming and it won’t be pretty, particularly for the massive open pit that is the NHS!

    You can’t have it both ways Khan!


    • The WestWyvern says:

      Digg, has he not just increased and extended the congestion charge also…


    • G says:



      If only we had a state broadcaster that gave the public real World news……………………..


  33. vlad says:

    Two stories on the BBC webshite omit key details.

    As a rule, whenever information is omitted it’s because it would have been embarrassing to the BBC agenda.

    ‘Manchester man charged after police ‘spat at and racially abused”


    “Child sex case: Twenty-six people charged with historical offences”



  34. john in cheshire says:

    Here’s today’s UK Column News episode. About an hour long but giving us some proper journalism. They even criticise Guido Fawkes for some fake news.
    Interesting information about the Black Lives Matter organisation. What are these organisations and their public presence always murky and anything but straightforward?


    • The WestWyvern says:

      A one word answer John regarding these murky organisations.



  35. Sluff says:

    One of the things that hacks me off about the biased BBC is that its focus on its pro LeftMob agenda and p***poor journalism aiming only for the ‘gotcha’ moments means there is no focus on genuine enlightenment.

    For example, compare the dates of peak UK new coronavirus cases with peak deaths on e.g Worldometer.

    Peak cases were in fact fairly flat for the whole of April. And not really a peak. Did ‘flattening the curve’ actually work? Maybe it did.

    Meanwhile we are always told deaths occur about 3-4 weeks after getting the virus. In the first week of May new cases were still running at 5000 a day, as they were in the first week of April. But three weeks later, in the last week of May, deaths were down from 900 to ‘only’ 300 a day.

    There is a story here, and questions worth asking.
    Maybe the survival rate is better than we feared.
    Maybe a magnitude higher level of untested positive cases prevailed in late March.
    Maybe the NHS has been quietly getting better at getting seriously ill people through.

    Why can’t the BBC ask questions to inform such possibilities instead of its continual undermining and seditious s***-stirring.


    • StewGreen says:

      The Worldometer graphs are flawed cos they are based on the daily report stats, which include lots of delayed reports.
      PHE re does the stats at the end of each week and produces data with the actual death dates.
      BBC More Or less covered this
      The actual peak death day was 2 weeks into Lockdown
      which meant the peak case day was 2 weeks before lockdown.
      However that’s only to do with Hospital deaths
      which are more deaths
      but when you add deaths in other locations
      that moves the graphs a bit.


  36. The WestWyvern says:

    BBC Radio News tells me the aircraft HRH and HMG use on official business is to be painted red, white and blue at a cost of £900,000.

    Oh, they and their libmob Marxist friends must be triggered.

    Patriotism they will sneer and decry. ‘Little Britain’…

    £900K, what a waste of money they will announce, when there are food banks in the UK in the 21st century…

    Personally, I’m all for a bit of pride in our country, I’d go further;

    Lets not just paint it Red White and Blue, but let us name it the ‘Spirit of Winston Churchill’ and ask that fine fellow, the millionaire with black privilege, Marcus Rashford to contribute, he’s got the ear of government and is not short of a few quid.

    I’m sure he’d be delighted to help his country in such a way.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Mr Rashford could be asked to re-launch the aircraft after the paint shop job has been completed.


  37. digg says:

    Now that is becoming obvious that the very left-leaning teachers unions are digging their heels in over schools re-opening just to confound the Conservative Government in a totally politically motivated manner I believe it’s time for a firm decision from the Government.

    They must pinpoint a date at which point the Government and the Country at large believe it is safe to resume full schooling.

    If the Unions then advise their members to ignore this they have to be seen as ‘strikers’ and all this means to their contracts and pay.

    The British public should not be forced to go on paying for these teachers to stay at home purely to support the political motives of their Unions.

    If the Unions dig their heels in lets have a bloody referendum on it as they seem to like those. I can bet on the result of that right now!

    Come on Boris, name the day!


    • dafydd says:

      ..at PMQ’s today Boris repeatedly had a go at Starmer over the teacher issue telling Starmer to commit to help getting the kids back to school and have a word with the predominately Labour councils who are being obstructive, and of course, Starmer refused to answer or commit..

      And for me apart from the appalling deaths the other disgraceful thing about the Pandemic is the way that Labour have completely politicised the whole thing. Sod the well being of the public, lets make some political point scoring

      ..Starmer really is a smarmy bas—d.


      • Up2snuff says:

        dafydd, “..Starmer really is a smarmy bas—d.” and a none too effective one at that? I’m getting an impression of quiet despair at the BBC at the current state of the Labour Party. And that is driving the BBC to try to be the main opposition to HMG.


        • The WestWyvern says:

          Sukweer Charmer, lets not forget was T Bliars lawyer.

          He’s a snake oil salesman of the worst possible kind.

          Disgraceful individual.


          • fakenewswatcher says:

            WW – agree with you entirely. Almost a Blair clone, but without the energy and charisma? Just the slick.
            Does he really need to do much with his Labour Party? T Blair used his decade wisely: he installed like-minded people everywhere, and no institution has turned out to have been Blair-proof. (Not to mention illegally opening the door to 2-3 million ‘migrants’, apparently to give the Tories a black eye, or something like that.)
            As I said earlier, a large ‘Conservative’ majority seems sometimes to be no more than a puppet show in parliament, while the real action goes on beneath the surface.


    • cromwell says:

      I am getting very concerned over the behaviour of Boris. If I was in his government I would be blazing mad. No support for their decisions, he just rides roughshod over decisions made.
      How he could have allowed his ministers to be belittled after they said no vouchers and he just overturned the decision a few hours later when a footballer goes to the bbc/scum media.
      I watched PM questions today (I dont normally but wanted to see how he performed) and frankly the opposition have him stitched up. Stephen Timms (labour) asks again after asking the same question to Hancock last week and got knocked back but this week he got a yes of course from Boris. The question was in this time of virus bla bla can someone who is in the country and has been told they can stay but cannot claim any benefits now claim the food vouchers. Of course, why not says Boris. It’s a f***king disgrace, the opposition pile in with more demands.
      They see weakness in Boris after the latest chaos and are going for the full monty. Now the footballer is bigging up the fact we could give vouchers all the time.Dear God, where will this madness end, I know when we are bankrupt as a nation and we are left to pick up the pieces the left will still be complaining about the mess we are left in.
      If Boris is doing this to make people like him or vote for him hes mad as they would always hate him and just want to screw as much as they can out of the government.
      Please can someone put Boris in a darkened room, close the door and let the cabinet get on with running the country.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Cromwell, the problem with the PM is that he wants to be loved. He really, really, wants to be loved. Especially by women. But also by men. He wants to hand out goodies to all and be loved for it.

        As First Lord of The Treasury, Bojo has to learn to say “No.” He also has to concentrate on being team captain, not Chief Decision Maker, as PM.


        • cromwell says:

          Yes I totally agree with you. He wants to please but we will be left have to pick up the tab and also the takers couldn’t give a toss about him just as long as he gives in.
          He is getting a real liability


          • Fedup2 says:

            I don’t think his government will be very popular when all this giveaway stuff has to be paid for ….. I don’t know what the likes of the IFS is forecasting in relation to coming tax increases but I do fear for ‘ordinary ‘ people ( like me ) and having to stump up a lot more ….


      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Boris is very erratic, and looks very weak. So much for an 80 seat majority.
        He will probably get worse. R4 says his car was involved in an accident. Apparently a protester leapt in front of his car, which slammed on anchors, causing the security detail behind him to crash into him. I am reminded of long, long ago, when Alabama Governor and Presidential candidate (Ind), George Wallace said: “if any protester lies down in front of my car, it’ll be the last car he ever lay down in front of.”
        Now anti-government protesters are gold coated. Impale the whole of government, but don’t touch a lefty protester?
        Labour, massacred at the polls, seem to have the initative everywhere, from the bbc to the universities, media, police, even sport! Boris seems to think the answer is to be more like them. He ignores his own natural constituency completely.
        It’s the Rashfords and the Purnells of this world, who decide what happens and what we are to see and hear.
        And Boris seems happy to play along. Very soon , I shall begin thinking fondly of Ms May?


        • Fedup2 says:

          Fake – I knew The PM was nt driven by anything about the top job and not much else but didn’t think that he’d land up being so bloody wet – with or without the a dose of Chinese virus .

          But if he gets on with Brexit at the trade agreements with our real friends I’ll let him have a free pass . I’m looking forward to chlorinated chicken .


      • The WestWyvern says:

        Good points Cromwell.

        Concerned about handing more decisions to the cabinet – whilst I agree its how it should be, we only need to look at the Home Secretary and her handling of the east coast invasion to demonstrate they are all useless, cowardly and incompetent to a man (or woman).


      • StewGreen says:

        @Cromwell, You watched PM’s Questions on which channel ?
        I listened on Talk Radio and they certainly gave the impression that Boris beat Starmer
        Boris asked Starmer 5 times if he would say that schools are safe to go back to
        And 5 times he declined to answer
        saying he wasn’t here to answer questions.


        • Guest Who says:

          So, in perfect sync with the ever unique BBC


        • cromwell says:

          Sorry Stewgreen just saw your text.
          I saw it on the parliament channel someone posted on here.
          I didnt get the impression that Boris beat Starmer,
          Remember Starmer is used to playing people along in court. Although he wouldn’t answer I felt Boris was thrashing about and agreeing to this and that.
          I think the opposition have got Boris skewed, if his side can see it then everyone can see it. I’m just so dissapointed in him after the years of putting up with May hes no better.


      • Jeff says:

        Let’s be honest, so far he’s been an atrocious PM.
        He seems to have got his priorities all wrong. Has he forgotten he’s the CONSERVATIVE PM? It looks like it…

        The smarmy BBC are never going to like him.
        The Guardian will always loathe him.
        So why is he forever trying pacify them and become the Labour-lite PM?

        I didn’t vote Conservative so that my country could be turned into some intolerant, economic basket case. A sort of cross between Venezuela and North Korea with a smidgeon of 1970’s Zaire thrown in for good measure.

        I don’t want any more pandering to the anarchist scumbag thugs of BLM either.
        If I’d wanted any of that crap I’d have voted for Corbyn.

        Boris has got to pull his bloody finger out.
        And quick!


  38. Up2snuff says:

    My attention was drawn to this BBC w-s article by another B-BBCer at the end of the previous S-t-W-Thread: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53047819

    Seem to recall that the BBC itself carried the news that the Covid-19 virus cannot exist in water. If they are talking about the summer version of the norovirus (another coronavirus) then that is usually spread via surface contact and lack of hand-washing. As I know. To my cost.

    But, but, the weather is not really consistently hot enough for summer weather tummy bugs to abound. Is this Fake News from the BBC? It certainly appears so.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Let me guess – they’ll get a resettlement package to be trained to become journalists ….


    • Thoughtful says:

      Thinking a little more about this, the DM article is confusing to say the least as it lists several reasons many of which are spurious.

      Lord Hall said delaying means-testing of the free TV licence for over-75s is costly
      He said it was a ‘significant sum at a time when revenue from licence fee is down’
      This is because of the broadcaster’s ability to collect the fee during the lockdown

      OK part of the reason is a management decision to carry on with the free licences for the over 75s.
      The licence fee revenue is down because the BBC can’t collect it because of the lockdown?

      That makes no sense at all when the TV tax is paid either in a lump sum or by direct debit, and why can’t they collect it during lockdown? Post Offices are open and so are the few Bank Branches which remain.
      Sounds like Hall is attempting to leverage covid to get more money from the Cowardly Boris.

      “It is feared that thousands of jobs may go as the corportation looks to make the saving after the pandemic left a huge hole in its budget.”

      Again when you have a fixed income and you stop producing programs cause a huge hole in the finances?


      • Up2snuff says:

        The BBC re-instated and paid 450 journalists who were due to leave at around the time the lockdown started. That’s down to Lord Hall, not the taxpayer.

        In 2019/20 the BBC continued to push through massive pay increases and equalise pay for women. Again, that’s down to Lord Hall, not the taxpayer.

        Excuses, excuses. That’s all you get from the failure known as Lord Hall.


  39. Fedup2 says:

    Government briefing watch

    Yawn – Oliver dowden – minister in charge of the BBC – starting to take on the persona of a C of E vicar – ambushed at the end by some grim socialist reporter from Hull ( a sort of poundshop Beff without the lippy ) who wants more benefits with a brilliant gotcha about a ‘mum’ having to sell her kids gaming computer for food …

    … I was thinking “ what Alan B’stard MP would say to this ?but the vicar dodged it and expressed sympathy for anyone living in Hull .
    I went to Hull once fir footy and got a pint in a plastic glass. It had the NHS logo on it with something like ‘don’t drink too much “ and security doors on the off licences ….


    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, ‘sympathy for anyone living in Hull’ ? I should think so, too!

      Didn’t Hull have an MP a while back, famous for driving two Jaguar cars – one for his left foot and one for his right foot – and for being all out for the people of Hull. Well, some of them. Ummmh, maybe just one of them.


      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Snuff – and didn’t his wife ‘insist’ that he take ermine and sit in the Louse of Hordes, or at least, he said he did it for her? So, maybe for two of the people in Hull?


      • Northern Voter says:

        The fat lazy useless barsteward(although he never was, he worked in the potwash on the ferries) henceforth to be known as
        Flub, when he was appointed by T Bliar told the motor dept that he required the same car as Michael Heseltine. He was told that Heseltine provide his own car.Didn’t like that at all!


  40. Thoughtful says:

    A Windham, New Hampshire man named Patrick Bradley has been charged with several counts of assault and disorderly conduct after he attacked three people, including a minor, for supporting President Donald Trump. An investigation by The Post Millennial reveals that Bradley is an avowed supporter of the far-left antifa movement.


    Not on the UK MSM


  41. Fedup2 says:

    2040 – and the first tranche of teachers still on furlough prepare for their retirement they re risk assess whether it is safe for the kiddies to go back to school yet – the kiddies – of course are now in their Thirties ……

    Starmer the younger suggests leaving it a year in order to draft a ‘ return to school support package ‘….

    Meanwhile Greta and Marcus Rashford are the first married couple to be awarded the Nobel prize for ,…er … stuff ….


  42. Thoughtful says:

    And this threat according to the Mail, although I’ll believe it when I see it:

    Tim Davie is set to replace Lord Hall as the broadcaster’s next director-general in September after being awarded the job this month.

    He has been warned he could become one of the shortest occupants of his post if he fails to reform the embattled corporation.

    Senior Government sources say Mr Davie could be fired when the Government appoints a new chairman in February if he fails to address No 10’s concerns about anti-Tory bias at the BBC.

    Davie stood as a councillor for the Conservative Party in Hammersmith in 1993 and 1994 and was deputy chairman of the Hammersmith and Fulham Conservative party in the 1990s.


  43. StewGreen says:

    Local ITV news
    An African born man died
    in an African airline plane crash
    in an African country,
    the inquiry process is slow
    and victims ended up being buried with 48 notice due to a decision by the Kenyan government.
    So whose fault is all that ?

    The white man, and his world of systematic racism.

    The Black British daughter complains that the US victims are being offered more compensation, cos of international air industry treaties that set different compensation for different countries.
    The daughter complains “had the passengers been all white, it would have been difference.
    The item showed no evidence.


  44. Thoughtful says:

    Last night I watched Richard II from which comes the memorable words of John O’Gaunt:

    This royal throne of kings, this scepter’d isle,
    This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
    This other Eden, demi-paradise,
    This fortress built by Nature for herself
    Against infection and the hand of war,
    This happy breed of men, this little world,
    This precious stone set in the silver sea,
    Which serves it in the office of a wall,
    Or as a moat defensive to a house,
    Against the envy of less happier lands,
    This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England,
    This nurse, this teeming womb of royal kings,
    Fear’d by their breed and famous by their birth,
    Renowned for their deeds as far from home,
    For Christian service and true chivalry,
    As is the sepulchre in stubborn Jewry,
    Of the world’s ransom, blessed Mary’s Son,
    This land of such dear souls, this dear dear land,
    Dear for her reputation through the world,
    Is now leased out, I die pronouncing it,
    Like to a tenement or pelting farm:
    England, bound in with the triumphant sea
    Whose rocky shore beats back the envious siege
    Of watery Neptune, is now bound in with shame,
    With inky blots and rotten parchment bonds:
    That England, that was wont to conquer others,
    Hath made a shameful conquest of itself.
    Ah, would the scandal vanish with my life,
    How happy then were my ensuing death!

    Far to close for comfort today!

    Tonight I shall watch Henry IV part I


    • Fedup2 says:

      On the theme of watching stuff – for those who appreciate WW2 films – try one on Thursday called “The Two Headed Spy” which is on at 1520 on Sony Movies Action – which is free to view ….. its a1950s black and white job with a lot of top notch British actors wearing German uniforms really well ….


    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      Excellent Thoughtful! 👍
      We had that on the wall in our downstairs toilet when I was growing up, in a mount and frame! God knows why 🤔
      It was John of Gaunt’s dying prophecy if I recall…. 😔


    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      That’s Jean de Gant (Ghent, in Belgium) the well-known Europhile.

      Did you pay attention to the whole speech? He’s giving Richard a bollocking for destroying all that in 1395.



      • Up2snuff says:

        WWOTW, what are you on? Is it legal?

        When you have ‘come down from on high’ may I suggest that you have a look at some history books. I think you will find John O’Gaunt was very English.


  45. fakenewswatcher says:

    thoughtful- sounds about right.


  46. fakenewswatcher says:

    thoughtful- sounds about right.


  47. Guest Who says:

    Interesting that only now, via twitter, do I learn the full context.


    • StewGreen says:

      Green MSP’s tweets seems to support the protester
      saying Turkey is using weapons bought from Britain to invade Kurdistan.


  48. fakenewswatcher says:

    Totalitarian. Political theory, eh? We start getting a taste of what it means.
    Whether of the Left or Right, it means one message is everywhere, unavoidable, staring at you in one guise or another. It means you cannot breathe. Not because of a police headlock, but because something like a Swastika is simply the THING.
    The taste could come tonight, when/if you watch footie, with its knee-taking and enforced slogans on shirts. And this message, in one guise or another, is everywhere.


    • G.W.F. says:


      Indeed. I saw the black news on BBC 6pm. I do hope the ageing white presenters have a good pension plan; their careers are ending. But watching the millionaire ball kickers taking the knee wearing BLM shirts followed by a blanket condemnation of British racism, with the Government joining in, it hit very strong that a new elite has taken over.


  49. G says:

    As I predicted here a couple of months or so ago, China will wind up the World stakes with some sort of an opportunistic distraction. Certainly on the India/China border. Let’s call the action, the “Galtieri distraction plan” in memory of that war designed to cause a distraction. (Didn’t he do well!)

    Strangely, another tin-pot (forgive the pun), setup under the control of China is jumping on the bandwagon. Seems that the building NK met with SK officials on the border has been blown up by the NKoreans. All too convenient for my liking, particularly when the US has its own internal problems with their own Communist virus (and I don’t mean Covid). An ideal time for China to apply a diversionary tactic to engage the US remotely.

    Oh, would it not be wonderful to have a state broadcaster that provided news, real news? But there, we have to wish on…………..