748 Responses to Midweek Thread 10 June 2020

  1. Guest Who says:

    BBC Radio 4

    Miriam: but what happens to the balls?
    Louis: do you want an answer to that?
    Miriam: not really

    Louis Theroux’s got Miriam Margolyes on his podcast and it’s wonderful. 😂 🤣

    It’s on @BBC Sounds. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p08g4wm2

    ***

    Of course it would be wonderful.

    Next, Ash Sucker… also a champion bbc guest.

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  2. taffman says:

    The people are taking a stance against Al Beeb and it’s Marxist cultural revolution . Where is Boris and his cabinet? Doesn’t the Tory government care about Britain’s heritage ?
    Boris is not a Churchill he is more like Nero with his fiddle. Defund the BBC.

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  3. Jeff says:

    Already this morning I’ve heard on the news that there’s likely to be clashes over the weekend between “Anti Racist Demonstrators” and…”The Far Right”…
    They’re just so fxxxxxx predictable!
    So, in this post democratic, dystopian nation that is used to be called Great Britain, if you want to defend our memorials, if you respect our heritage and admire those that made sacrifices for our freedoms.. you’re, essentially… Nazis…
    Meanwhile, brutish, semi literate barbarian thugs, wearing masks, carrying weapons and spray cans, attempting to deface or destroy these monuments to our past are the good guys.

    I must have missed something…

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  4. Jeff says:

    Already this morning I’ve heard on the news that there’s likely to be clashes over the weekend between “Anti Racist Demonstrators” and…”The Far Right”…
    Ye gods, the media is just so fxxxxxx predictable!
    So, in this post democratic, dystopian nation that used to be called Great Britain, if you want to defend our memorials, if you respect our heritage and admire those that made sacrifices for our freedoms.. you’re, essentially… Nazis…
    Meanwhile, brutish, semi literate barbarian thugs, wearing masks, carrying weapons and spray cans, attempting to deface or destroy these monuments to our past are the good guys.

    Anyone heard a peep from Boris?
    Thought not…

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  5. theisland says:

    Protective equipment has gone up around the Winston Churchill monument, the Cenotaph, George Washington statue and James ll statue ahead of this weekend’s BLM demonstration in central London.

    https://www.rt.com/uk/491591-courts-fast-track-protester-prosecutions/

    According to The Times The UK government reportedly ordered courts to treat unruly protesters, rioters, and vandals to “24-hour justice,” calling on magistrates to “fast-track” their legal proceedings amid ongoing demonstrations over police brutality.

    Who should the police be targeting given that it is intended for those committing acts of vandalism, arson, or assaults on police?

    My question is who WILL the police be targeting?

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    • G says:

      Theisland,
      “…ordered courts to treat unruly protesters, rioters, and vandals to “24-hour justice,” calling on magistrates to “fast-track””

      Surely that means that they will be released with a warning 24 hours earlier than they would normally be?

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  6. Roland Deschain says:

    Those of us who get our news from outside the MSM knew about this yesterday. And “Seattle protest zone” is up there with “mostly peaceful”. You know where this is going. Trump will be forced to deal with the violence but he will be branded the instigator.

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    • Guest Who says:

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      • Doobster78 says:

        Yet again … SKY … disgusting stuff. See the replies, see the WHOLE video and events leading up to it. He smashes the car with a skateboard …. CRIMINAL OFFENCE.

        Jesus, those two SKY tweets are seriously disgusting and show exactly why nobody can trust them. Appalling stuff.

        Then you have fatty Boulton telling us that its all getting out of hand !! Well, fatty, its your firm doing all the s**t stirring so have a word.

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        Is the media truly blind to what it is stoking up? There has to be a reckoning at the end of this. It really can’t go on. The media companies all need to be broken up as they are now acting as a homogeneous body.

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  7. Oldspeaker says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53017776
    “ Trump told to back off Seattle’s Chaz police-free zone”
    Apparently the leaders of this newly formed protester utopia have posted armed guards to defend their border from those hostile to them. The old stereotype about irony eh. I also read that the homeless that were invited in have made off with all the food. Good luck when it comes to waste management and filling pot holes.

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  8. AsISeeIt says:

    Hey, Starmer, Nandy, Abbott, Lammy… any whacky new ideas we can borrow?

    Paul Staine’s site order-order.com links to an article by the supposedly conservative leaning, apparently pro-Brexit, journo Tim Montgomery. Incongruously, you may think, he writes in the Left-leaning Fabian-founded New Statesman. The thrust of his argument is an attack on Boris.

    Our Tim is careful not to directly attack certain Tory sacred cows. He praises Margaret Thatcher – well, her first few years in office when, we are told, she listened to contrary voices.

    The critique of Johnson is a pretty comprehensive and personal assault.

    But one scours our Tim’s piece in a search for any actual substantial policy differences he has with the current PM.

    All one finds is this line:

    ‘Johnson was not like this when he ran London. He was an upbeat, inclusive mayor who embraced issues such as climate change, same-sex marriage and the living wage before other Tories’

    He we go again. What does our Tim demand? More social liberalism coupled with the embrace of slow-motion socialism.

    Hey, Starmer, Nandy, Abbott, Lammy… any whacky new ideas we can borrow?

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  9. Guest Who says:

    Almost every bbc post ends with ‘analysis’.

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  10. Celtic_Mist says:

    Human Rights activist in Iran wants BBC defunded!

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  11. Charlie Farley says:

    For how much longer will the BBC continue with the Michael Portillo series with his praise of our British Empire ?

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  12. StewGreen says:

    9am New Pantomime
    #1 The economy has shrunk cos of Covid
    the local newsreader had a shocked voice as she read “20% smaller says government report”
    FFS of course it has and it’s probably way more than 20%
    why is that even news ?

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  13. G.W.F. says:

    I have a scientific theory. All I need is a bookshelf behind my head and a BBC Ch4 interviewer.
    1, Bames suffer more from China Virus because of a genetic based problem with their skin .
    2. Bames suffer more from exposure to symbols, like statues, certain images and certain words because of a genetic problem with their skin.

    The question for science is to determine whether it is the same genetic problem for both conditions and how it can be treated.

    For me this is a paradigm shift as I have always believed that skin does not matter and like Martin Luther King wrongly believed that character was more important.
    The evidence is there. Turn on the TV and listen to Bames recounted their pain.

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    • G says:

      GWF
      “The question for science is to determine whether it is the same genetic problem for both conditions and how it can be treated.”

      Returning to a climate and region of the World where the risks are diminished – Africa – seems to me the sensible route…..

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  14. StewGreen says:

    Orwellian Britain2020
    ..The worst form of censorship, is self censorship.

    When punishments are so draconian, people set their own limit well within what the boundary should be.

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  15. infoquest says:

    There was a painter and decorator on Toady this morning. He can’t get financial help from the government. ‘Oh, you won’t be able to get hold of supplies’ assumptive question. Yesterday, in Wakefield, both of the trade paint outlets were open (got a receipt from one of ’em). If you need money then go and do some work.

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  16. G says:

    UNN News just tell me that it was because of Nigel Farages comments on BLM that he left LBC Radio. I’m speculating but when (if) chastised for his comments, he probably told them to, ‘shove it’. I sincerely hope so.

    In the same vein, I now hear that UK Television has removed one of the Fawlty Towers series. The one that included the German scene – ‘We don’t talk about the War’.

    This is what happened in the US after HBO withdrew ‘Gone with the Wind’ –

    It seems there was a mad rush to acquire the DVD which made someone a lot of money – Certainly not HBO.

    This is a continuing war against the ordinary sensible people and it can only end one way. Certainly before the lunatic fringe come for you and I personally: that is sure at the end of this track.

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    • Charlie Farley says:

      G
      Fawlty Towers was dubbed into German and it was immensely popular there including the ” you started it you invaded Poland ” one , Germans do have a sense of humour after all .

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  17. StewGreen says:

    Twitter News : \\ BLM organisers call off London event to avoid clashes with far right
    Black Lives Matters activists say hate groups plan to target protests and ‘defend memorials’
    theguardian.com //

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    • G says:

      SG,

      Perhaps they don’t realise, yet, what they are tangling with.

      (Follow the ‘people are talking about this’ to see the video)

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      • NameNotNumber says:

        The ‘soldier’ has no chin strap, no belt, no shouldered arm? Why is the ‘soldier’ where he is – is he guarding or patrolling?

        Is this video genuine? If anyone can confirm either way then please do.

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  18. Doobster78 says:

    This is brilliant from Tucker. Well worth a watch.

    These idiots in Seattle with their new country called “CHAZ”, the idiots who protest about Trumps wall and borders have …. well ……. put up walls and borders !!!!!! The Left are so thick its funny.

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    • gb123 says:

      “These idiots in Seattle with their new country called “CHAZ”
      They should call the next one Dave.
      So the beeb can Rabit Rabit Rabit all day about SJW “justice”.

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    • infoquest says:

      Thank you Doobster – WOW!
      I think they should substitute tonights HIGNFY with this.
      But they won’t, obviously.

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    • Oldspeaker says:

      Although they’re shouting “this is what democracy looks like” I’m hearing “strength through joy”.

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Oldspeaker _ Democracy doesn’t remotely resemble thuggery and violence in the streets! It is the absolute antithesis.
        What you are hearing is “strength through intimidation”. The strategy of all anti-democratic minorities!

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  19. infoquest says:

    Also on Toady this morning – a discussion about how all the different rules and guidelines are confusing for many people and businesses (and schools).
    One simple solution could be a 1 yard (metre?) rule for people aged 16 and over. You can do anything so long as you stay 1 yard away from everybody else. And if you are aged under 16, who cares what you do – you ain’t gonna get it and you ain’t gonna pass it on.

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  20. theisland says:

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    • StewGreen says:

      On my screen Twitter has censored that photo
      even though it’s just the cenotaph boarded up

      We can’t show you everything!

      We automatically hide photos that might contain sensitive content.

      Show Media

      If I post Deegan’s tweet it does work
      so it seems to be something to do with Richard Kemp’s account.

      Direct photo
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      • gb123 says:

        This shows how little people seem to know about our history. You only have to listen to any of the daytime quiz shows to see how little seems to be taught. Questions than an average primary school child in the 50’s or 60’s could answer in a heartbeat are a mystery now. I remember being at school in the 60’s having history teachers who had experienced the second world war which gave great insights on the sacrifices. Nothing beats hearing from eye witnesses.

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        • G says:

          Gb,
          “I remember being at school in the 60’s having history teachers who had experienced the second world war…”
          Yes, and the hanging wall map of the World with all those pink bits…..

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        • Guest Who says:

          Our two were moved to one where several teachers were ex-SAS.

          It is a very good school.

          Outside the state system mind.

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        • Charlie Farley says:

          Gb123
          Well said, At my School in the 60s in the Assembly Hall there was the roll call of all those that had died in both World Wars from the Masters to Pupils , very moving and inspiring

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  21. AsISeeIt says:

    Channel migrants: Windsurfing boards used as makeshift raft

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-53000773

    Have these BAME people not read this from the BBC, did no one warn them? :

    Racism in the UK: ‘I feel like an alien’… four black men speak to the BBC’s Ashley John-Baptiste about their experiences of racism in daily life.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-53002818/racism-in-the-uk-i-feel-like-an-alien

    Oh, wait, maybe I misunderstand. Perhaps it’s me as the white chap who’s meant to find myself a surfboard and a following wind?

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  22. StewGreen says:

    Tousi against Sadiq

    JHB

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    • Doobster78 says:

      Words actually fail me !!! That is a absolutely disgusting statement . He should be removed from office immediately for a statement like that !!

      The Isle of Man radio presenter who dared to question white privilege and Farage who quite rightly likened the bringing down of statues to the Taliban were both removed from post with immediate effect so how can the Mayor of London issue what is basically a “race baiting, racist” statement and remain in office ?

      He says 62 officers injured … yes, in the protests YOU endorsed and by YOUR protesters !!!

      its the old one rule for left and stuff everyone else again .

      Utterly DISGUSTING . Just a disgraceful statement.

      This is bang on this reply

      Maurice Byford ‘Wash your hands’
      @MauriceByford
      Replying to
      @SadiqKhan
      Only the right kind of hatred is acceptable to our London Mayor

      Stabbing – Awks
      Vandalism – Marvellous
      Street Closures – Brilliant
      Terrorism – Quick protect the Mosques!
      Al Quds antisemitic marches – Raised eyebrow & a nod

      Citizens protecting our heritage – This MUST BE STOPPED

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  23. StewGreen says:

    10am TalkRadio : Farage is the main guest

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  24. theisland says:

    https://vk.com/wall-194645035_44683 (9 mins)

    https://www.tr.news/all-lives-matter/ (1 hr)
    Marxists, Anarchists and their affiliates have joined the BLM movement to create a race war. Black Lies Matter – Tommy Won’t Be In London!

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  25. Guest Who says:

    https://tv-licensing.blogspot.com/2020/06/bbc-complaint-statistics.html

    Likely it is a waste, along with DPA requests, but the thing is they are logged and archived.

    Soon…. the public gets their day…

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  26. Fedup2 says:

    Note from a moderator

    Just to let every know – this thread is huge – with over 700 comments in 3 days. So thank you and keep spreading the word and recording what is happening .

    I m going to put the long weekend thread soon . Lets keep pushing the monster biased BBC toward that cliff …..

    Thank You ….

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  27. G says:

    Taking Minutes of Silence around the World.

    Taking total silence in No. 10

    Leadership? Wot ‘Leadership’?

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  28. tony1234 says:

    Here’s an idea for a very long running campaign, but one that would at least start to restore some balance and i think may have public appeal: It is a campaign for The Telegraph and Guardian to have equal representation in the BBC’s news editorial team and equal programming control. In anticipation of mass squabbling, they might simply get an equal share of programming time and budget; or a channel each. The argument is made on the ground of a) failed impartiality in the BBC and institutional discrimination against conservative position b) trust in the BBC, c) diversity and fair representation of viewership/listenership.

    Even if you lose the end game, it is a publicity stunt that raises awareness of the biases at play.

    In Brexit, the BBC were haplessly biased, but even a constantly hamstrung and cobbled representation of the Brexit position managed to see it prevail. That should give hope. But right now, there isn’t even a chink of light for an opposing view on BLM et al.

    (Based on Ofcom’s data on public trust in media) I think many today still say they trust the BBC simply because of the reason of “why shouldn’t they?” What could they possibly be saying that is biased about the George Floyd incident, without realising there is an entirely different argument on it and on the BLM than than the one that the BBC runs: Floyd was black. Floyd was murdered. Poloceman white. This happens more than once. Police are racist. American society must be racist. BLM good….

    It is amazing on how thick people are. “Oh, I never thought about it like that,” they say.

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  29. Celtic_Mist says:

    What planet is the BBC on? Virtually not a word about Brexit

    The BBC’s prorities are –
    1 BLM
    2 Covid
    3 Woke
    4 Woke
    5 Woke

    https://globalvisionuk.com/this-week/uk-formally-confirms-to-eu-that-it-will-not-extend-the-transition-period-and-that-the-moment-has-now-passed-whilst-member-states-continue-to-squabble-over-recovery-fund-and-china-annexes-part/

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