626 Responses to Weekend Thread 6 June 2020

  1. theisland says:

    David Davis on NF show says he is certain there will be no extension to the transition period.

    (And he hopes the police will enforce the law today) Huh!


  2. JimS says:

    Government minister Kemi Badenoch says what she thinks of the BBC:

    “We must combat the real inequities in society, but we do everyone a disservice if we give in to culture warriors whose relevance depends on inflaming tensions.

    By hijacking the Government’s work to improve the lives of BAME people, those spoiling for a fight are sacrificing the hope of so many young people for little more than clicks, likes and retweets.”

    She must be right, she’s ‘black’. (Don’t confuse her with Dawn Butler).


  3. Roland Deschain says:

    Indeed. It is of some reassurance that #CCBGB


    • Doobster78 says:

      Now let’s imagine a Pro Brexit rally or a Tommy Robinson rally left 27 officers injured !! Would they be classed as “largely peaceful” by the BBC and MSM ???

      Headlines all over the media would be ,

      Violence erupts at Far Right demonstration.
      Far Right supporters attack Police
      Many Police injured in Far Right riots
      Violent thugs clash with police at Far Right rally

      This media are DISGUSTING, cowards. Utterly shameful reporting and inciting violence.

      No wonder the hashtag #scummedia is gaining traction.


    • StewGreen says:

      “27 police officers injured during largely peaceful anti-racism protests in London”
      That’s one for the BBC hall of fame shame.

      .. That BBC tweet has been double ratioed


      • Van Helsing says:

        I wonder if the Al-Beeb would say that a music festival was ‘largely peaceful’ if 27 police officers were injured at it? I rather suspect they wouldn’t.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      I’m glad to say that headline has sparked a great deal of mickey-taking.


      • Charlie Farley says:

        Roland Deschain
        BBC report on D Day , thousands of soldiers have been swimming and now they are just lying on the beach sunbathing…..don’t they know there’s a war on!
        Very sad thousands sacrificed their lives to save future generations…just for these rioters to destroy the past and their future but of course they are too stupid to realise that .
        BBC Bias and indoctrination of the young strikes again !


    • infoquest says:

      Worth going back to this Tweet from BBC News – currently has 3,700 comments 🙂


    • vlad says:

      The people of this once great nation are waking up and taking the red pill.

      Citizens, DON’T bend the knee to the oppressive mental slavery the BBC want to keep you in, get OFF your knees, stand tall and think for yourselves: you have nothing to lose but your chains.

      Some of the overwhelmingly critical replies to the ridiculous biased tweet above:

      Fred West’s life was largely peaceful

      Harold Shipman’s patients largely survived

      White Star Line ships largely floated

      Yorkshire Ripper spent most days driving

      Krakatoa largely silent


  4. LastChanceSaloon says:

    2020-06-07 02:00
    Coronavirus ‘a devastating blow for world economy’
    By Dharshini David Global trade correspondent

    [Insert sob story here. The mass murdering CCP is not even mentioned.]

    [The group of African States has pledged trillions of dollars to assist the poorer Western nations.
    Not really, even though we are already zillions in debt, the West is expected to fund this.
    After all the trillions already given to African states, mostly siphoned off by corrupt Oxfam officials and Africen
    If there was any doubt before, how much they actually hate us, even the blind can see after the “Gentle George” show hit the road.
    No way, tell them to Foxtrot Oscar and stand on their own, black, independent, feet.
    If they are short of labour in Africa we can send them a few million doctors and engineers who would clearly
    be happier in Africa, since they hate us.]


  5. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    If you reply to the black lives matter slogan with all lives matter you can lose your job as in the case of the bbbc DJ or at least be called out as a racist.

    It’s about time they replaced the slogan on their bits of cardboard, black lives matter, with the more accurate one ‘black lives matter more than white lives’


    • Oldspeaker says:

      I wonder about this too EG, saying all lives matter apparently ‘makes you part of the problem’. Which is problematic when approaching the issue from a Christian, libertarian or just plain old fashioned common sense position. I take my lead from a Christian perspective, not everyones bag I know, my understanding is that the Good Lord instructs us that all lives matter. Which makes for some interesting conversations when people will have to tell him he’s part of the problem.
      The more this plays out the more I’m thinking its the usual divide and rule only with a more specific endgame, though who would benefit from an all out race war? which some seem to be provoking.
      Wouldn’t be surprised if theres a group of people chuckling away at it all thinking the only lives that matter are wealthy elite ones.


  6. StewGreen says:

    There are soap operas .. everyone knows they are fantasy stories

    And there are journalists who carry a soap opera story version of the world in their heads

    And when the arrive at a news scene they bring that soap opera script
    and try to make what they find at the scene fit it.

    Thus what we see in the media is merely some kind of soap opera.

    Each week there are main themes, with subplots that weave in and out
    ..and there are the consistent background narratives they come back to.

    In last week’s episodes
    the main plot was One man Dominic Cummings
    Subplot BAME are biggest victims of Covid
    Background plot BrexitMan bad.

    This week’s episodes
    the main plot was George Floyd.
    Subplot BLM demos are “PEACEFUL”
    Background plot BAME are permanent victims.


  7. Beltane says:

    ‘Matt Hancock clashes with SAGE member Professor John Edmunds over lock-down…..’
    Ever heard of John Edmunds? Well you have now. Job Done. Fame beckons.


  8. Venutius says:

    The protests are being labelled by the BBC as ‘Anti-Racist’. And we all know Anti racist just has to = Good. No argument, no complexity, nuance or mitigation. Pure and simple, this is good no matter what.

    In fact, Anti-racist is so good it trumps absolutely any argument.

    So good, it justifies violence and looting. It cowers politicians into hiding, it forces police to kneel subserviently to a mob and it allows the desecration of the Cenotaph and Winston Churchill without recourse.

    The righteous movement is in fact, so righteous, it is described by the national broadcaster as ‘largely peaceful’. The vandalism is ignored, the rioting overlooked as newsworthy and any wider health risks irrelevant to a greater virus. Racism.

    Social distancing has melted away now and the credibility both of the police and the state is evaporating simultaneously.

    I am livid at the lack intellectual questioning of the wisdom of the inane BLM messaging across our media. The statistics and facts around crime and blacks are totally ignored. There is no objective interrogation whatsoever. Everything is just emotional guff.

    This inane movement is now simply an amorphous lefty-mass, intent on various political causes standing behind three idiotic letters. Lack of action is not only eroding our nation fabric it is increasing division. Many will see the graffiti and feel greater hate now. Others will watch the police kneel and have less respect. Most will see the absence of our leaders and see weakness..

    Yesterday was the 75th anniversary of the D Day landings. Today, will be a repeat of yesterday. Will any defend those whose we memorialise as having defended us when it really mattered?


  9. pugnazious says:

    The BBC is institutionally, systemically racist.

    It is the most dangerous organisation in Britain.



  10. vlad says:

    So the beeb’s much heralded entirely peaceful riots – sorry, demonstrations – have left 27 police officers hurt so far, and no doubt a good few horses.

    That’s 27 too many in my book.

    (And that’s not counting unknown numbers of new corona victims down the road).

    Shame on all the bien-pensants libtards encouraging people to join the demos which, given the extremist organisations behind them, were always going to turn nasty.

    Here’s one such moron platformed by the beeb but of course there are thousands like her.

    The idiot told that other idiot Andrew Marr that she was “proud” of young people demanding change.

    Should be ashamed.

    Hopefully at the next election the voters will remember which politicians incited violence and law breaking so they could virtue signal.



    Labour’s Lisa Nandy has said people “cannot be silent in the face of racism” as she backed those attending protests during the pandemic.


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Dear Lisa
      Labour was very silent when 200,000 white female children were gang raped by racists.
      Due to the fact that Labour imported the rapists.
      Not only were Labour very silent, they threatened to dismiss anyone in the public sector who mentioned this racism.
      Suck Here, your latest, grade A c*** of a leader, lead the fight to conceal the rapes.
      I remember when Sargon said that he “would not even rape” a senior female Labour MP, there was outrage, there is still outrage.

      No outrage about the racist rapes, was there? Diversity is more important, shut your mouths and spread your thighs, kiddies.

      You are one the worst example of lying, self serving, hypocrisy even Labour has ever produced: that is some achievement.

      But I make allowances for your stupidity, Lisa. The recent Labour party leadership contest was mostly composed of organisms who struggled with bipedalism.

      Please make “forensic” Suck Here aware of this comment.

      I am sure BBBC contributors would be interested in his defence of his defence of concealing the rapes.

      Thank you for publicly hating white people all your life. It is good for our side.


    • Van Helsing says:

      Quite right, Lisa.

      Let’s start talking about the disproportionate number of white people mugged, stabbed, robbed and gunned down by ‘people of colour’. Applying the gander* principle, every such instance must ipso facto be racist – even if there’s no actual evidence to support such a conclusion.

      But let’s not stop there. Let’s talk about the MOWOs, White History Month, the Association of White Lawyers, and all those people appointed by employers and academic institutions to deal exclusively with white employees/students.

      Hang on, though, there are NO such things. Funny, that, when there are for non-whites. Isn’t that, well, racist?

      People of all skin colours can – and do – get along perfectly well when left to find their own accords. But that doesn’t suit the professional race-baiters and agitators out there – who, funnily enough, come in all of the shades of humanity.

      * as in ‘what’s good for the goose etc.’


  11. G says:

    Compare and contrast:

    BBC News:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52935145 – “The new normal”

    Views on YT:

    The British Broadcasting Corporation – “The Worlds Most Trusted Broadcaster”


  12. JimS says:

    I have just driven through town for the first time this week. Our cash-strapped local authority has plastered the lamp posts with ‘Drivers practice social distancing, drive wide and slow’ signs.

    Are they really suggesting that a car driving past a pedestrian at 30 mph is suddenly going to infect them?

    They might be fake but there are a lot of chalk-marked bike signs all over the roads, some in the strangest of places. I hope they are not markers for the road paint gangs.

    If it is best that I stay indoors surely they next best is that I venture out in my car or in the wide-open spaces, not join the sweating panters ingnoring all signs that don’t suit? Or the ‘annoyed’.

    At the moment I am biting my tongue because the most depressed person I know, (a relative), has surely seen all his dreams come true as the capitalist society is shut down, neighbour turns on neighbour, and every student tries to be more ‘right-on’ than their fellows.

    I heard a nice piece about Stalin the other day. The people that opposed him were killed and the people that supported him got killed too, but maybe not so soon. Welcome to your utopia all you ‘post-modernists’!


  13. scribblingscribe says:

    Rod Liddle’s musings in the Sunday Times are behind a pay wall, so I will just share this:

    Take an American chap, Chris Martin Palmer, who was full of praise for the Black Lives Matter protesters, especially when they set fire to a huge building. “Burn that shit down. Burn it all down,” he commented. A little later he posted: “They just attacked our sister community down the street . . . now in front of my building. Get these animals TF out of my neighborhood. Go back to where you live.”

    Then there’s Leigh Tauss, a journalist in North Carolina. She tweeted her admiration for the “extremely peaceful” protesters but a little later was hiding in the basement as they trashed her office. “I’m devastated. We are a progressive newspaper,” she said. What, still?


    • vlad says:

      Excellent. I love it when the weekend revolutionaries who think rioting is a recreational sport get hoist by their own petard.

      History lesson to all woke snowflakes: every revolution from the French to the Chinese via the Russian ends up devouring its instigators.

      Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

      You say you want a revolution? Be careful what you ask for; you just might get it.



  14. pugnazious says:

    The ironic thing about this anti-racism campaign, such is its virulence and aggressive nature in its denouncement of white people, their culture and society that it will probably set back real race relations.

    Sure the institutions may pander to the intimidation and moral blackmail but everyday people in the street?

    I’m guessing most will be starting to question the benefits of a multicultural society more than ever andwill be thinking along the lines of saying ‘If you don’t like it here, if you don’t like white people, then ‘Go…..go to an African country or a Muslim one where you will feel ‘at home”.

    I’ve heard several BBC presenters who have made the trip to their ‘homeland’ and said it felt good to be amongst ‘their people’. You have BBC presenters shaping their message to aid the BLM cause for ‘our community’….

    ‘He died nearly 4,000 miles away from the UK in Minnesota, but his death was felt here in our black community too.’

    She also had no problem with Blacks aping the Black Panther terrorists….

    ‘Shayne says she and her friends wore military boots to the London protest and were impressed to see lots of other women dressed like members of the Black Panther movement.’

    Clara Amfo, allowed to make a highly personal statement that is packed with its own prejudice and delusions….

    ‘”I didn’t have the mental strength to face you guys yesterday,” said the DJ, her voice breaking with emotion.

    “I was sat on my sofa crying, angry, confused… stuck at the news of yet another brutalised black body.”

    Radio 1 and its sister station 1Xtra have been reflecting the movement by hosting discussions about the issues surrounding Mr Floyd’s death, and playing songs that address black empowerment and identity.

    Speaking on her mid-morning show, Amfo said the events in Minneapolis had reinforced a feeling among black people “that people want our culture, but they do not want us”.

    She added: “In other words, you want my talent, but you don’t want me.’

    Who is that ‘‘You’?

    The BBC is setting back race relations generations, probably permanently. It can’t end well.


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      “Radio 1 and its sister station 1Xtra …”
      “that people want our culture, but they do not want us”.
      She added: “In other words, you want my talent, but you don’t want me.’

      [Wrong. Radio 1 “our culture” “my talent”
      You have been believing the BBC too long.
      My sincere thanks to “cultured” people like you for trying to destroy some important historical British monuments yesterday.
      Talent, please provide a list of Black Science Nobel prize winners.
      I believe the Japanese are marvellous.
      I believe the contention that you are as cultured and talented as the Japanese is nonsense.]


    • Jeff says:

      “…She also had no problem with Blacks aping the black Panther terrorists…”
      Imagine if Alistair Stewart had said that…


    • Banania says:

      “I was sat…” Who sat you there?


  15. richard D says:

    SAGE, a group of, around 100 scientists and medical experts – brought together to give a balanced viewpoint on this pandemic, which the government can then use to formulate policy to protect the country, normally provides that advice as a group.

    However, the BBC seems to be able to find, with no problem whatsoever, at any point in time, loners within SAGE who do not agree with the majority, and then the BBC panders to their clearly unsupported views in general, and anti-Conservative Government views in particular, as if they are the real experts.

    At no time does the BBC point out that, presumably, given that the SAGE group make composite, combined and complex recommendations, based on the whole group view, the guy they have in front of the microphone is just a dissenter who doesn’t really want to be part of a group, but got into it to get in front of a TV camera at every opportunity.

    The BBC’s motive is pretty obvious.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      I would have imagined that membership of SAGE required something akin to Cabinet collective responsibility, as you can’t have maverick members going around undermining the advice. Do these people get kicked out for that? They should.


    • Beltane says:

      As evidenced by John Ashton and Richard Horton, total nonentities before the virus – save for some dubious aspects of their personal histories – and now, thanks to the BBC, the go-to sources for in-depth information.


  16. Foscari says:

    We are told that one in a thousand of the population in the
    UK has the virus. There were thousands at the “protest”
    demonstrations. It’s therefore big odds on that some
    had the virus . And that’s coming from a bookmaker.
    But worse it would not surprise me in the slightest if
    any anarchists at the protests and there were plenty will
    have taken pleasure in spreading the disease. And of
    course the protesters also have the BBC egging them on.
    And all because a cruel police officer who knew his victim
    from working with him in security in a city 4000 miles away.
    and what happens if it was not racism , but PERSONAL?


  17. digg says:

    There is little doubt that much of the protest in the USA is backed by an underground trying to get Trump out. The BBC will of course give this as much help as possible as they would dearly like to see him destroyed.

    Meanwhile in the UK the BBC are playing the same game, trying to make it appear that there is a ground swell of opposition to the “racist” Government and hope therefore that it will culminate in the end for Boris and the Conservatives and of course the “racist” skeleton in the cupboard Brexit.

    If we do get to the point in this Country where mob-defined “psuedo-democracy” rises to the top as the acceptable and inevitable new norm it will be the end for this Country and the beginning of a new Dark Age.

    We seem to be heading for a time when “tumbrils full of people they hate to the Guillotine” will be the means to take power. The ultimate “No-Platforming” in fact.

    I really do feel that we are approaching a time when we will see the first assassinations, cheered on by the riotous mob and a lot of “journalists”.


    • JimS says:

      If society does break down then the ‘well-known’ faces in the media will be seen, rightly, by the mob as being part of the ‘aristocracy’ and will be some of the first taking a place in the tumbrils.

      We saw that happening with ‘our’ Laura K, the rabid but comotose ‘right’ complain about her bias, the ‘peaceful’, loving, activist ‘left’ would see her dead for not praising Corbyn.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      What we are witnessing is the culmination of a years-long indoctrination of our youngsters throughout their school days. It has led to the current crop of entitled, self-hating automatons who are utterly disrespectful of anyone who has opinions outwith the Hive’s stipulated policies. They cannot think for themselves and thus are easily led into going on marches or joining in social media pile-ons.

      They are exceptionally gobby as part of their indoctrination and as such have a very loud voice. The same people who have ensured their indoctrination have also infested the media, who provide a feedback loop for these loudmouths.

      The result is the appearance that there is sizeable support for them but I believe much of this apparent support is through fear of getting on the wrong side of the loud mob. Witness all the virtue signalling from various commercial organisations.

      This is not going to get fixed overnight, and will not get fixed at all until we have politicians prepared to face down the mob. And amongst the current lot I see none.


    • JamesArthur says:

      I found this article on BLM from 2016…co-incidentally not long before Presidential election

      It could have been written yesterday…major point that many protesters and BBC fail to make…
      There is a big difference between the aims of the organisation BLM and the statement


  18. cromwell says:

    Change of subject…Just listening to old programme of desert island disks with Victoria Wood, it must be first heard about 2007 (she died in 2014)
    Kirsty interviewing her very well, saying the TV stations must be very pleased with her work and all the comedy talent she brought to the screen. Gave a list of all her excellent work.

    Very telling that Victoria said maybe then but now you have to go before a committee of women in suits telling you what comedy is suitable. Tells you all you need to know everything about the media. And that was 2007
    How I miss Victoria RIP.


    • Beltane says:

      For a moment I thought you meant Wark – but then the image of the deliciously impartial Ms Young brought a smiley back.


      • cromwell says:

        Oh yes sorry I should have said Kirsty Young, didn’t think she would be mistaken for the Wark harridans


        • Scroblene says:

          Boris Johnson’s chosen luxury was a ‘jar of French mustard’…

          I think I know where he would stick it now…


  19. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I predict that today’s death number will be below 100.


    • StewGreen says:

      Go on predict the BLM fueled daily tally in 2 weeks time
      as those new infections turn to deaths


      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        I’m just seeing a pattern in the graphs and it looks to me that today and tomorrow will be in double figures then, next week, in the 1**’s

        When all these antifa terrorists and the easily led blm idiots get home they will probably be ok being young but they will infect their parents, granny and grandpa plus some other vulnerable groups. I don’t have a idea of how many but my best guess is that in about 5 weeks the deaths will stop going down for a while.

        As an aside.
        If Boris gets his 3 million Hong Kongers in then any police horse that bolted through them when they start rioting (CLM or HKLM) sometime in the future will be lucky to get out alive. Yummy.


      • pugnazious says:

        It’ll be ‘systemic racism/injustice’ not effing stupidity.


  20. StewGreen says:

    Nigel Farage baffled by lack of media criticism for clashes at protests
    article https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nigel-farage/lack-of-media-coverage-of-violent-protesters/

    but the audio clip is a bit weak
    He’s more emphatic in the catchup

    Today’s news about protests is on the LBC live page


  21. Doublethinker says:

    I have had enough of all this shit. If people don’t like it here then either protest within the confines of the law or fuck off . We were once a cohesive safe society until the great social engineering experiment started. Started without any discussion let alone the consent of the native population. Now society has cracks in it a mile wide and things are going to get worse no matter how many concessions are made to the minorities. What a mess thirty years of liberalism has done to the country.


    • Scroblene says:

      They’re wheeling Tariq Ali out now, trying to make him look important and making soul-searching comment.

      He was just another interfering little git, with a mate in a Star Wars helmet all those years ago!

      Private Eye (when it was readable), had a picture of his trio of wasters – I’ve tried to find it on ‘covers’, but got nowhere…


      • Beltane says:

        I always thought ‘Terry Kelly’s’ rampant Marxism was rather let down by his solid gold Hublot wristwatch.


  22. Fedup2 says:

    Twitter watch

    Im pleased to report that the BBC is taking a kicking . “the largely peaceful ….” riot – which includes the “ largely successful voyage of the Titanic “
    Or the “largely peaceful Ariana Grande “ concert in manchester ….

    Largely peaceful really scored points against the BBC

    If there is one plus – more and more people just dont believe the BBC anymore ….


    • StewGreen says:

      It’s viral original from DanielNGilham

      seems a rip off of Patridge
      “People forget that on the Titanic’s maiden voyage there were over 1000 miles of uneventful, very pleasurable cruising before it hit the iceberg!”
      – Alan Partridge


    • pugnazious says:

      LOL…comments not going well…if only translates into real problems for the BBC.

      Their other headline….

      ‘Blacks in the US largely successful, happy and patriotic’



  23. StewGreen says:

    Media narrative vs real world
    MaajidNawaz “There is discrimination in Britain no FTSE100 company have ever been headed by a BAME”

    ..em sounds like BS to me for a start Tidjane Thiam was CEO of The Prudential from 2009 to 2013, before becoming CEO of Credit Suisse. He’s French-Ivorian.
    #2 I’d have thought lots of FTSE companies have been headed by Jewish people
    Don’t they count as an ethnic minority ?

    It would be true if Maajid cherrypicked his terms carefully.
    ‘No FTSE100 corp has been headed by a British born BLACK person”


  24. fakenewswatcher says:

    I see that a white policeman has been shot dead and two injured in an ambush in Santacruz, California. The anarchists are coming out of the woodwork.
    Difficult now to envisage how the election will take place in the US.
    Presumably it has already started, the BLM ‘protests’ initiating the Democrat’s challenge. Perhaps Biden will find himself a black, female running mate to placate the mob and garner votes. Ilhan Omar, perhaps?
    Continuing the protests will also achieve another goal for the Left: damaging the economy.
    Here in Britain we risk an ongoing copycat/’solidarity’ campaign, but the economy is already in such dire straits, a little more damage probably won’t matter.
    The government looks extremely weak, so decisive action against rioters, or the inflow of ‘migrants’ probably won’t happen.


  25. pugnazious says:

    BBC caught out once again…fanning the flames of racial tension….


    ‘Government minister Kemi Badenoch accuses BBC of ‘fanning the flames of racial division’ over coronavirus AND Black Lives Matter protests with ‘sloppy’ article that was shared thousands of times on social media’

    ‘A Treasury Minister has launched an outspoken attack on the BBC for ‘fanning the flames of racial division’ after its coverage of a Commons speech in which she defended the Government’s record on ethnic minority issues. ‘

    And indeed the BBC did use that form of words….the first three edits had this title…


    ‘Coronavirus: Minister Kemi Badenoch rejects ‘systemic’ racism claims’

    Then changed to this…

    ‘Coronavirus: Minister Kemi Badenoch rejects ‘systemic injustice’ claims’

    Either way she did not ‘reject’ the claim…here’s the debate…


    Naturally it was in response to a Muslim Labour race baiter exploiting race issues to make herself sound good…have to think she cares not one jot about Black people in reality…I could just be channelling stereotypes of Asian/Black relations…but probably not.

    On similar lines I doubt this Muslim Labour race baiter, Rupa Huq, cares about Black deaths but is quite happy to exploit them for her own purposes with highly inflammatory claims…

    ‘Anyone in Westminster yesterday could not have failed to notice the Black Lives Matter protest, inspired by Minneapolis. The placard that sticks in my mind most said: “Being black should not be a death sentence”.’

    The BBC of course was quite happy to quote her without any shock or outrage…remember when Boris used the term ‘surrender act’ and he was accused of wanting to stir up a war and fuelling hate and division?



  26. StewGreen says:

    Bristol “Statue of slave trader Edward Colston pulled down during Bristol demonstrations”
    and thrown into the river
    Priti’s cops stood by

    Next the book burning
    ‘Pull the Egyptian monuments down
    and then Roman ones
    … they were largely built by slaves
    not to mention ones honouring other African kings’

    BBC quick to report of course


  27. pugnazious says:

    The Guardian loves a copper being near killed….set it to music for a laugh…

    No apology….

    Oh….second thoughts….

    Maybe Owen Jones will make one as he thinks it’s irresponsible to use horses in a riot….


  28. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Apologies if this has been covered before.

    British political advertising must be regulated. How to do it is a harder question
    Guy Parker

    Guy Parker is chief executive of the Advertising Standards Authority

    No comments allowed.

    [From 2013 to 2016, Guy chaired the European Advertising Standards Alliance …
    Guy is Vice President of the International Council for Advertising Self-Regulation …

    The conduct of the World’s Highest Budget Political Advertising agency.
    The agency who spends more every two days, than the Conservative and Unionist Party spent at the 2019 General election.
    Was not mentioned by name, and apparently not considered as political, by the hard left ASA.]


  29. Celtic_Mist says:

    The Telegraph is now worse than the BBC ..


    Some people are going to believe that the fake quotes from Donald Trump are true!

    Donald Trump: Christian, or shameless opportunist? Over in the US, it appears to be a matter of lively debate.

    This week, the President attempted to calm a fearful nation by posing in front of a church while brandishing a Bible. His opponents, however, have dismissed the move as nothing more than a cynical publicity stunt designed to shore up his support among evangelical Christians ahead of November’s presidential election. Some critics also recalled an interview from 2015, in which Trump claimed the Bible was his “favourite book” – and yet, when asked to cite a favourite verse, appeared strangely reluctant to answer.

    The Caring Atheist
    1. You mention that the Bible is your favorite book !!!
    2. What are your favorite Bible verses ? – I don’t want to get into it
    3. The Bible means a lot to me
    4. Are you a New or Old testament guy ? – Probably equal
    5. The Bible is just incredible
    6. The Bible is special


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    16.3K people are talking about this
    Today, however, it’s time to set the record straight. Exclusively in this column, I can reveal the President’s top three favourite passages from the Good Book.


    “I love the bit where God creates the heavens and the earth in six days. Unbelievable, right? Six days. That’s something I’ve always liked about God: His tremendous work rate. It’s terrific, it really is. You ask God to do a job for you, you know He’s going to get it done, on time and on budget. I don’t know how big of a budget He was given for that particular construction job, you’re probably talking many billions of dollars, because building the heavens and the earth is not cheap, I can tell you that for a fact. But however much it cost back then to build the heavens and the earth, the place is easily worth three, four, maybe five times that now. Tremendous investment. Easily one of the most valuable pieces of real estate in this solar system, maybe the galaxy.”

    Matthew 19:16-30

    “I’ve always been a big, big fan of Jesus. Very smart guy. This young man comes up to Him, very successful young man, rich entrepreneur, and he says to Jesus, do you have any lessons for me? And Jesus tells him to sell all his possessions. And that’s a really great lesson, because once the guy’s sold all his possessions, he’ll have made a fantastic profit, which he can then reinvest in a new business, maybe build a luxury five-star hotel by the Sea of Galilee, or convert the garden at Gethsemane into a state-of-the-art golf resort. That’s the great thing about Jesus: always thinking one step ahead, always looking at the next big move.”

    John 2:13-16

    “Another thing I like about Jesus: the guy knew how to cut a deal. Never let anyone push Him around. If He was in a temple with the money-changers, and He wasn’t happy with them, He would just turn the table over and walk out. People say He learned that from my book The Art of the Deal. I don’t know if that’s true, I’ve never discussed it with Him personally, but that’s what a lot of people are saying.”

    How to give Downing Street the X factor
    Rip up your Radio Times. There’s been a late change to your TV schedules. Because this weekend, for the first time since the coronavirus crisis began, there will be no news conferences from No10. From now on, news conferences be held only on weekdays.

    And the reason?

    According to a Downing Street spokesman, it’s because the weekend news conferences were getting low viewing figures.

    Seriously. That’s the justification they’re giving. Low viewing figures. As if the news conferences were not an essential means for the Government to update the nation about a deadly pandemic, but an underperforming TV talent show.

    Frankly, if that’s the way the Government looks at it, you’d think they might have done what TV bosses normally do with a big-budget Saturday-night flop – and try giving the format a revamp, in a bid to boost the ratings.

    For example: replace Chris Whitty as Chief Medical Officer with someone younger and more glamorous, such as former 1Direction star Harry Styles, or a member of the Pussycat Dolls. Get Dermot O’Leary to present the slides showing the latest hospital admission figures and graphs of public transport use. Instal a big red button on the minister’s lectern, so that each time Robert Peston’s question goes over the three-minute mark, a bucket of gunge gets tipped on his head.

    And, crucially, add a Strictly-style panel of judges to give each minister a mark out of 10 for his performance.

    “Matt, darling, what a fabulous display. At the start of the series you looked so nervous, I was sure you were on your way out. But tonight you danced around those questions beautifully. I really hope it’s enough to keep you in.”

    Come again, Prime Minister?
    No doubt about the worst part of the average journalist’s job. Transcription. Quite apart from the sheer, mind-bending boredom of it, there’s the agony of having to listen to your own voice. How wrong it sounds – surely there’s something wrong with the audio. And then, even worse, the shame of discovering how often you’ve interrupted your interviewee in the middle of some crucial revelation, and how clodhoppingly ill-phrased your questions are.

    A great boon of recent times, therefore, has been the advent of the transcription app: a piece of technology that takes this miserable chore out of your hands, and does it all for you.

    What a relief. On the other hand, though, these apps aren’t infallible. In fact, they’re prone to unfortunate mishearings – as a colleague found the other day, when he used his app to transcribe a news conference held by Boris Johnson.

    At one point, the Prime Minister had said, “Let’s go to Beth Rigby, Sky News.” Yet the app transcribed this innocent remark as, “Let’s go to bed. Three beers. Good news.”

    I can’t decide whether the app is unreliable – or telepathic.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Celtic – I broke my own rule and contracted to have the Telegraph for 3 months at a pound a month . After three months – not worth it – contract ends in a week and I won’t miss it .
      Sometimes I thought I was reading the Mailonline – but without some young lady ‘flaunting her flat bits / curves ‘….


      • Scroblene says:

        Yup, Fed!

        Mrs O’Blene and I were going to restart our subs with the DT, but its output and feeble ‘reporting’ has been so poor recently, we’ll forget ’em!

        Shame really, because there used to be some pretty good journalism coming from the old DT, but not any more.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Wow, does that price include the magazine on Saturday? That used to be quite good. Or was it a ‘Virtual Telegraph’, with delivery by squeezing it down a telephone line?


        • Fedup2 says:

          No it was just the removal of the firewall . I’m not sure what the full fat cost per month but I’m not willing to pay for any MSM propaganda sheet – even one with the occasional ‘old school ‘ columnist such as Charlie Moore …. he’s for ever on the BBC providing ‘balance ‘ isn’t he ?


          • Up2snuff says:

            Aah, I see.

            Last time I bought a hard copy of the Saturday DT, Fed, I think Charles Moore was doing a bit in the Honest John motoring section on the latest version of the Skoda Octavia. Think that might have been two models back!


  30. Fedup2 says:

    The number of people who have died with covid related illnesses for the last 24 hours is around 75 . 48 of then were over 80 – figures from the London Standard .

    Obviously these numbers are meaning less as numbers don’t work the same as weekdays . OPLM- old people’s lives matter .


  31. StewGreen says:

    Dallas last week horse was attacked by rock throwing


  32. StewGreen says:

    Labour MP dictates to Boris that he shouldn’t dare
    “don’t you dare try to shift the blame onto protesters if there’s a second #COVID19 peak!”
    6,000 people oppose he tweet 6,000 Liked it


    • G says:

      I say again, the World is breaking up into 50:50 divisions. In the case of the UK, 48:50.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      There’s really no arguing with that level of stupid. What’s alarming is the number of replies who can’t see what’s wrong with it.


  33. G says:

    A gentleman who really, really, knows the situation with black people in US and is not afraid to tell it the way it is. A revelation.
    Highly recommended.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Just listened to first five minutes.

      Another brave Republican. Similar to Dr Ben Carson (who ran against Donald Trump for the Republican nomination in 2015/16) in that he sees the real problem and I guess if I listen some more, has some good ideas on how to fix them.

      How I wish Carson was inside the WH right now, maybe as Veep.

      (Ooops, sorry Fed, Veep means Vice President in American slang.)


  34. StewGreen says:

    CNN narrative on the London horse


  35. Guest Who says:

    Not looking good for George outside W1A. A bit white male.

    Maybe Nick can strap himself over it and when the mob arrives direct them to the white kids carved by the kiddy fiddler?

    And assure them it won’t be reported.



  36. StewGreen says:

    Alastair Stewart in a later tweet quotes someone saying that this morning some adult turned up and changed the BBC Saturday night news story to include mentions of protesters violence.


    • pugnazious says:

      Alastair Stewart not going to get many Christmas cards this year….not that many at the BBC will celebrate Christmas. Maybe he won’t get many ‘Happy Eid’ cards.


  37. Jeff says:

    I’ve just heard that the statue of an obnoxious racist has been torn down by those brave “demonstrators” from the BLM.
    And my first thought was was…
    Fxxx me, Ghandi’s gone from Parliament Square.
    Oh, if only…


  38. pugnazious says:

    Have to laugh at the brass neck or maybe complete lack of awareness of Amol Rajan as he blames the internet for the failure of news organisations.

    Journalists are needed, now more than ever

    ‘As the first, rough draft of history, the skill and nous of journalists have rarely been more needed.

    And yet the conundrum is that, with so many people not paying for news, funding quality journalism – as opposed to clickbait – in the digital age has proved tough. That was before COVID-19 came along, decimating the distribution models of traditional media such as newspapers, and causing huge retrenchment in the advertising that subsidises much of the industry.

    Journalism’s financial crisis – the result of the internet turning general daily news into a near-universal commodity – was just one of the crises besetting media. It was made much worse by the flight of advertising money to giant technology platforms who don’t pay for content. ‘

    Hmmm…isn’t it in fact the BBC’s free website and the almost total dominance of its news service, funded by a compulsory tax, that has decimated other news services?

    ‘The advent of social media, which promised to be a boon for democracy, now imperils it, in many ways. There is the massive proliferation of sickening abuse, trolling and conspiracy theories. There is the hijacking of the attention and priorities of countless reporters, warping their sense of where public sentiment really is. And there is the damaging, seductive power of the urge to be shared and retweeted online, which causes editorial judgement to lapse.’

    LOL…social media is the saviour of democracy…or at least its champion…without it we’d never know just how much the BBC et al lie to us as we also now have access to so much of the information previously denied us…we can now judge the veracity of what the BBC tells us….unfortunately for the BBC.

    For instance…ironically in the very report that he claims social media is distorting democracy and truth, he makes this claim…

    ‘It is in this context – of a financial crisis, a truth crisis, a digital culture war and strains on editorial judgement – that the appalling attacks on journalists across the world just this week must be seen. They have been led, of course, by a US President who calls them the enemy of the people.

    So Trump is orchestrating attacks on journalists? No, he is not, that’s an outright lie.
    Two..it is in fact the Media that has led a 5 year onslaught against Trump, first trying to stop him being elected and then trying to get him unelected by using every lie, every devious trick, every piece of black propaganda and misinformation it could cobble together…and the BBC led the way.

    He finishes off with this overwrought claim…

    ‘Journalists….We shall miss them if they disappear; and if you want a preview of what life without them would be like, try living in North Korea.’

    Hmmm….well…we miss ‘journalists’ already…what we’ve got are campaigners and activists. We could do with some old fashioned news, truth and accuracy.

    As for North Korea…when a government can put a country into almost total lockdown at the flick of a pen, interning people in their homes 23 hours a day, with police harassing them at every turn, with millions kicked out of their jobs onto the streets, with millions unable to access the NHS and children subjected to a future now blighted by an education gone missing….and the BBC says nothing as the economy crashes into a massive black hole, and the BBC not only doesn’t challenge or question the lockdown in any way whatsoever but in fact acts as its chief cheerleader and actually demands harsher restrictions be imposed for longer, tell me about good journalism and North Korea.

    Liked the comment on a photo in the article…

    ‘A protester argues with law enforcement officers as a cameraman runs from tear gas during a demonstration in Minneapolis on 31 May ‘

    No…protestor berates and probably attacks police in the riots…much like ‘Protests largely peaceful’…..nothing to see here.


  39. theisland says:



    • theisland says:


      • Roland Deschain says:

        Where the [expletive deleted] were the police?


        • Van Helsing says:

          My guess, Roland, is that the police were busy doing one or more of the following things:

          (a) Purchasing paint for the protestors;

          (b) Harassing Tommy Robinson, Nigel Farage and/or Carl Benjamin;

          (c) Helping the Border Force find luxury accommodation for the latest tranche of illegal immigrants;

          (d) Undertaking additional diversity training following complaints that they failed to supply the protesters with sufficient quantities of bricks, bottles, bicycles and fireworks; or

          (e) Rehearsing their dance moves for Pride, 2021.


  40. pugnazious says:

    BBC news….somewhat reluctant to suggest the injuries were in fact quite serious….

    ‘The police officer who fell off her horse suffered a broken collarbone…[pause]…and has a broken rib…and a punctured lung’

    So largely OK then.


    • Guest Who says:

      BBC making sure this will be a long, largely peaceful summer… in metered doses.

      “The health worker died in March after being shot eight times by police whilst she slept at her home in Louisville, Kentucky.”

      Full Facebook treatment and the crowd goes wild.


    • scribblingscribe says:

      The BBC and Sky are omitting the small detail that the peaceful demonstrators were chucking stuff, including bikes, at her horse in order to spook it. When they succeeded and she was flung from the spooked horse, sickeningly on to her back, and lay unmoving, the peaceful demonstrators cheered.

      I hope that the police can bring those responsible to justice.


    • Banania says:

      And the horse was destroyed,


  41. Thoughtful says:

    Not the BBC, but one of their US partners, and highly relevant because of the first BLM incident.

    Cast your mind back to Trayvon Martin (Barak Obama) My son might have been Trayvon – a violent criminal Barak?

    Zimmerman was accused of being motivated by racism and of having racially profiled Martin.
    During early media coverage of the incident, Zimmerman’s call to the police dispatcher was misleadingly edited by NBC so that it appeared that Zimmerman had volunteered Martin’s race.
    The unedited audio recording proved that the police dispatcher specifically asked about Martin’s race, and only then did Zimmerman reveal that Martin was black. NBC apologized for the misleading edit and disciplined those involved.

    There you have it! Proof that the scum media were faking the news and attempting to stir up race hate and violence and they would have gotten away with it if it hadn’t been for those pesky people exposing them for what they are.

    The UK media are every bit as bad as the US if not worse.


  42. Fedup2 says:

    As a keen chess player I was trying to work out how the BBC would ‘manage ‘ the news if their new best friends decided to torch one of those inflatable hospitals the Army built .

    As far as the ongoing events are concerned I’m afraid my views are too strong to put into the written word .

    I think it’s time to put up the ‘start the week thread ‘ …… busy busy ….


    • Thoughtful says:

      A friend has suggested the ‘BAME’ community are being manipulated into their own deaths because they are too stupid to see what is being done in their name.

      We all know BAME are more likely to die if they contract a Covid 19 so if BLM why risk exposing them to it? The National Front would have been proud of such a move !

      Of course the conspiracy theorists are suggesting it is being orchestrated because not enough people have died, but either way I’m quite comfortable with the violent idiots at these protests contracting it so long as they don’t spread it to anyone else.


  43. Up2snuff says:

    For the interest of the BBC, Kent – as a county – is predominantly white with a relatively small BAME community in various parts of the county. Surprise then that Covid-19 infections afflict the county at what appears to be a similar rate of 0.33 of 1% to other parts of the UK. 5,201 infections out of a population of 1,581,555. That is at a similar rate to some other BAME nations: that is Black and Majority Ethnic nations.


  44. Thoughtful says:

    And in other news, as lunatic neo Fascist and anti white race hater Angela Merkel and her deluded bunch of idiots are considering the most iniquitous thing imaginable to reasonable people, imprisoning Naomi Seibt because they cannot counter the things she says:



    • Guest Who says:

      So, like bbc complaints then, only with extra German viciousness added.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Thoughtful, I hope the Horror Bin comes on the News and Toady Programme tomorrow to remind us that world is 1° warmer than it was and the sound of the nation laughing can be heard in whatever studio (home, BH, satellite BBC) he is broadcasting from. Have just put on another layer for warmth this p.m. but may have to resort to the central heating in ‘flaming June’.

      It is only when people really start to laugh at this nonsense that the ‘warmists’ will realise that the reality is very different.


  45. Guest Who says:

    All going to plan. Or not.


  46. Guest Who says:

    The media.


  47. Guest Who says:

    It’s a mystery.

    Tim has inherited the biggest burning bag of poo alright.