414 Responses to Start the Week Thread 1 June 2020

  1. fakenewswatcher says:

    In the beginning was The Word. And the Word was with God and the Word was God.
    At some stage some decided to have a revolution. They didn’t much care for God cos He didn’t fit in with their ‘equality’ mantra.
    So some thousands got their heads chopped off. Eventually, so did Robespierre. The Russians thought that anything the French could do, they could do better. So they also had a revolution and declared God to be dead, what with him standing in the way of the dialectic of ‘historical materialism’ and all that.
    Ever since then, godless people have decided to have revolutions. Why, even at this very minute, they’re at it in the US, burning and looting and what have you. Whipped up by the godless Cultural Marxists, what with ole Karl having found there is no God, but you sure as heck can lop off a few heads, if history says you can. And burn and loot, and all that stuff.
    You can have lotsa fun, you don’t have to worry about that God character, cos he ain’t there.
    That there Cultural Marxism even seeped as far as the beeb. Infused it, sort of. And so now, we even have Ed Stourton declaring war.


    • Oaknash says:

      A bit off your point FNW but after reading your post for some reason this came into my head.

      In the beginning was the NHS, and the NHS was with God, and the NHS was God.


      In the beginning was the BBC, and the BBC was with God, and the BBC was God.


      • StewGreen says:

        Backlinks to previous thread
        page 5 started Sunday 10:30am
        page 4 started Saturday 5pm

        .. as ever I just left a long comment about Goldberg’s sports lockdown radio4 doco, at the bottom on page 5
        So not to clog this new thread


      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Oaknash – I do wonder whether, having ditched the Real Thing, people are now seeking to fill the vacuum with other things to worship. The NHS. Maybe the BBC, but I think most people can see through it as a vehicle of socialist re–education.
        Some have pursued another religion, seeking the false prophet who, in dubious circumstances, came upon a revelation/ message around 700 AD, or so he claims, there were no other witnesses. And by his fruits we know him.
        i STARTED OFF THIS THREAD WITH JOHN 1:1 By John 1:9 & 10 we find the true Light…and “the world was made by Him and the world knew him not.” But this time round, there had been, and were still, plenty of witnesses to His entire life.
        However, He interferes with our modern liberal dictum of freedom. We don’t like the self-discipline. All the rules. Anyone telling us what to do. We don’t even like the Word of God.
        Take the US: If you wanna burn burn. If you wanna destroy, destroy. If you wanna have another revolution, well gets you to show ‘your anger’. Against ‘institutionalised racism’ CNN and beeb would like to tell us.
        But we know better.


        • Eddy Booth says:

          Jesus was a rule breaker too! who didn’t like being told what to do, eg he turned the money lender’s tables over, Maybe Mosses as well; destroying the golden calf.

          I’d beg to disagree too about modern day peoples dislike of rules- most people have absolutely loved following the government rules and being ordered about, like obedient little bitches. As though they have finally found something they can easily follow and maybe even get a little thrill over playing their role, be it queuing on squares , hidding at home, avoiding the countryside or parks, grassing up neighbours.
          They’re perfect mugs to fall for cultural Marxism or Islam,


          • NCBBC says:

            Eddy Booth: playing their role, be it queuing on squares , hidding at home, avoiding the countryside or parks, grassing up neighbours.

            Never thought i’d see the day Brits behaving like good little Germans.


          • Oaknash says:

            I tend to agree with you on this Eddy.
            Listening to my local BBC Radio Cornwall pm chatshow presenter encouraging people to turn into grasses made me thoroughly sick. Once people have been conditioned into behaving this way it is only a short hop to full tyranny.

            Nothing worse than a sanctimonious, virtue signalling grass. I expect when Anne Frank was arrested the conversation went something like this
            “Ring ring”

            “Hello Gestapo here”

            “Hello Gestapo I would like to report some people hiding in the attic of the property next door to me – the address is ………”

            “Thank you madame we will deal with it”

            “Yes I had to ring after all rules are rules and I always obey the rules – you will take care of them the Franks I mean I hear they are nice people ( for jews )”

            “Of course we will take care of them Madam, thank you for informing us, you have done the right thing”

            “Guten tag”

            “Guten tag”

            As for following the rules for many it has been a small price to pay for many, they get 80% of their wages for sitting on their arses all day watching Netflix and “Strictly” replays on the BBC I Player. Lets hope for their sakes that they dont dwell too long on the long term consequences of this stupidity – it might mean that they would have to open another beer.


      • Up2snuff says:

        But the god known as NHS was a puny god, her arm was too short and too fat and too weak to save. Thus the people had to make great sacrifice of Lockdown to save their puny god from the evil virus known as Covid.

        The god NHS was so pleased with this sacrifice that she gave gifts of infection to her people, especially those defenceless ones who gathered in age-related clans to await their deaths. The Great High Priest (with ambition to be promoted to a god) Bibbycee called constantly – daily, even – with a loud voice for greater sacrifices and offerings to be made unto the god NHS.


    • Oaknash says:

      That is my belief Fnw. People have lived in a fairly decadent and self indugent lifestyle for years where everything can be bought and death has been hidden away, they have suddenly been faced for the first time in their lives with the possibility of their own mortality (rather blown up and hysterical if you ask me) and having no belief in anything other than their own pleasure seeking and material item s they have looked for a deliver, a Messiah – cue the NHS, though I expect if you said this to anyone who lost a relative on the Liverpool “care” Pathway you may get a rather different viewpoint .


  2. theleftwilleatitself says:

    Damn, second – well done fakenewswatcher 👍


    • JamesArthur says:

      3rd…best result…and so the week starts

      Haven’t watched any BBC today except 5 mins of Mr Jenrick. .
      When did it become Faith leaders and not Religious leaders and when did saying Christian become so abhorrent to those in public office?


  3. Guest Who says:

    I have decided to loot my local, having first transferred the necessary funds.


  4. G says:

    My exposure to ‘regular’ news in limited. No tv, very little radio 4. All my intake is YT and even then that’s from selected reliable trusted sources, preferably, ‘from the horses mouth’. So following, the POTUS’s announcement (I watched as, ‘trusted’) about the Order altering the US States relationship with the media platforms, there appears to be very little response apart from the essential facts from our own, “Worlds Most Trusted Broadcaster”. Is this strange? A potential mortal attack on others following the same communist path surely would/should respond with venom. But no. Perhaps they, Soros and the Globalist elite are still reeling? When they get their orders from Beijing we’ll sure know about it as it will be a collective response.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Another announcement from POTUS. One that is not before time.

      I’ll await for BBC hyperventilation.


  5. Darcy3 says:

    ANTIFA is now a terrorist organisation!’ Trump declares WAR on anarchist protesters
    DONALD TRUMP has labelled the Anti-Fascist Action group (Antifa), as a terrorist organisation as he declared war on anarchist protestors.



  6. Darcy3 says:

    Lets hope they ban blue and purple hair


  7. fakenewswatcher says:

    Ms Merkel won’t like what POTUS has said about Antifa. In Germany, they’ve been doing her work for her, in her ‘war against the Right’. Quite unbidden, of course. No, her hands are clean. Look, she’s holding them up for us to see, and there ain’t nuffink there…
    Just ignore those STASI cufflinks, they were a gift from Erich Honecker. She’s going to hang onto those, even if she ends up in Paraguay, with some of her Antifa mates for protection.
    (PS Never mind, Angie. Beeb will have nice things to say about you, all the way from England. And yes, they will keep agitating for a ‘rejoin’, so you don’t have to pay for that EU all on your own.)


    • G.W.F. says:

      The East German Communists built a wall called the anti fascist barrier to keep fascists out. You know, the western allies who helped to defeat Hitler.
      This Government won’t ban the anti fascists here. Antifa is primarily anarchists and the Trot version run by the Socialist Workers Party has too many Tory members, like former PM David Cameron a founder member.



      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Thanks. I can see Erich H. there, but Angie’s keeping a low profile. One can’t help feeling that, after the way West Germany swallowed up the old GDR, Angie is actually Honecker’s revenge.
        There are other vipers about: I’d hate to have Foreign Minister, Heiko Maas, anywhere near my bosom. A socialist working hard to make the German Foreign Service ‘diverse’, and a real sinister fellow. Probably wouldn’t mind a few Antifas in his diplomatic service…


      • Doublethinker says:

        The communists actually built the wall to keep their own people in ! In typical doublespeak they claimed that it was to keep the western fascists, ie anyone who wasn’t a communist, out. But your point is a good one , Antifa aims to destabilise western society so that a new hard left world order can be built from the ashes. In my view it’s much more likely that Islam rather than communism will be the beneficiary.


  8. Darcy3 says:

    “I can’t breath”, yeh right, save it for when you are a ventilator in a couple of weeks


  9. Lord Blagger says:

    The crucial question

    When will Emily Maitless be allowed off the naughty step and will she have to apologise first?


    • G.W.F. says:

      As she is missing from TV I think we should have a chance to see her.



      • Eddy Booth says:

        Photo too big


        • theleftwilleatitself says:

          Agree Eddy Booth, I don’t like to criticise this site, but for about a month now I’ve not been able to view these sort of images properly without downloading them 🤔


  10. vlad says:

    Tucker bringing a bit of sanity to the media and political hysteria in the US.

    The sort of thing you’ll never hear on the British Agitprop Corporation.


  11. Deborah says:

    Last night, on the recommendation of the Telegraph (only get it on a Saturday for the crossword) we went to the British Museum (via YouTube). Saw all about Pompeii through the museum’s special exhibition. Apart from Mary Beard being obsessed with the role of women in Roman society it was fascinating but it was the sort of programme the BBC could do, but there were no people of colour either then or now, no mention of climate change nor was it pitched at 6 year olds. Stopping paying the licence is getting closer.


    • Doublethinker says:

      Excellent post. The lockdown and its cause the virus may make some profound permanent changes in how we live . Hopefully it will hasten the demise of the foul corporation because more people do exactly what Deborah did. But it may also hasten the creation of a cashless society, increase the number of people working from home resulting in many empty office blocks. which could be converted into flats. We may also see the return of manufacturing jobs to the West as supply chain security becomes increasingly important.


  12. Fedup2 says:

    I suppose over 2000 years human nature doesnt change much . The footage of fools being encouraged to jump off of durdle doon ? By hundred of beach people ( tomb stoning ? ) is well covered on youtube – as is an air ambulance landing on the beach to pick up injured jumpers …..
    Not too different from those going to watch killings in the Arena …


  13. Darcy3 says:

    Man, 82, dies after he was attacked by a herd of cows while out walking with his wife, 78, in the Yorkshire Dales
    Man and wife were walking at Ivescar, near Ingleton, when they were attacked

    How many antifa are buring barns and looting haystacks ?


    • Eddy Booth says:

      BBC can’t even tell that story right, the people had dogs with them while the cows their calves,


  14. Deborah says:

    Countryfile, an item about a shepherdess getting her new sheepdog puppies. Obviously recorded some weeks ago. What wasn’t explained was how the dogs could have been delivered to their new home under lockdown. Is that the BBC encouraging people to break rules and make journeys that aren’t essential?


  15. Guest Who says:

    Seems like a typical bbc news cycle.


  16. Beltane says:

    With all their recent practice in fake news making, the BBC’s Countryfile carry on the good work, this time ably assisted by the redoubtable Tom Heap and the RSPB.
    Not much happening in the countryside so why not dredge up raptor persecution, always good for a righteous fume at the toffs, because its them and their passion for bloodsports at the back of it all.
    Exceptional numbers of birds of prey, we are told, have been shot, trapped and poisoned during lock-down. No excuse, if true, that’s a given, but just take a pace back and think about it.
    One: Shoots the length and breadth are folding, hundreds of keepers are redundant, game farms closing with no orders. With shoot days costing a grand and more, sometimes much more, who is going to spend their money now and book ahead in the hope that all will be well come October?
    Two: With lockdown in place, access to the countryside has been exceptionally limited, not least through well publicised drone use – and yet we are to believe that armies of intrepid twitchers are able to wander at will, apparently to discover huge numbers of birds of prey, gunned down by callous gamekeepers.
    Three: These same keepers, with the confidence of the truly uncaring, blaze away, kill indiscriminately, and leave the evidence of their crimes for said intrepid antis to find. Clever stuff, thank goodness they’re so thick and the RSPB so smart.
    As usual the BBC know their audience. Countryfile fans won’t question the expertise of Mr Heap, or the efficiency of rural police forces who will, inevitably, put raptor persecution way ahead of major incidents of sheep rustling and farm machinery theft running to millions.
    But that serves ’em right for being farmers. Real country lovers know their priorities, and the BBC is always there to ensure they do.


    • StewGreen says:

      Countryfile shoehorned a Colonel Tom item in
      … apart from saying “you’re a Dalesman” the talk wasn’t about the countryside.

      Next week it’s from LONDON
      last week it was from WEST LONDON


    • Deborah says:

      We country people know why there are less small birds around, the growing number of raptors. In the south there are huge numbers of red kites. In my area there are now many magpies, when I was young, I had never seen one.

      I was horrified by the attitude of the policeman featured on Countryfile. He kept referring to raptor PERSECUTION and saying it was all the fault of the gamekeepers. With the aggressive attitude I can’t see how that policeman can work with the rural community.


      • Beltane says:

        Quite right Deborah. Back when buzzards were relatively rare and re-introduced kites confined to Wales and even rarer, they were beautiful to look at but both species lazy and slow flying carrion eaters. Now, thanks to their numbers being so artificially inflated, there’s not enough carrion to go round so they have become killers, in order to live.
        I watched it happen with the buzzard and the kite, whose numbers as a predator are already beyond control in some areas, will follow.
        Predators vie for territory, and such territories are huge so the competition only intensifies. Occasionally, because of this intense rivalry and because nature is red in tooth and claw, older weaker birds will die – due in no small part to the imbalance encouraged and fostered by the RSPB. But admitting that would not suit the agenda.
        Yes, it does happen, shamefully and indisputably. But losses can just as frequently be due to survival of the fittest or starvation, because there’s too many of the poor creatures for a natural balanced environment to sustain.


        • Up2snuff says:

          Deborah and Beltane, birds thrive in cities. I used to look out of my office window and watch Kestrels hunting for rats and mice. The Sparrow din in mid-summer was enough to annoy sleepy teens at exam time from 4 a.m. to 6 a.m. and there were many varieties of garden birds, not the duoculture dominance of sparrows and starlings that is often seen in the countryside.

          It’s a big thrill to see a bird of prey here in the Kent countryside. The Marsh Harrier has returned to the Swale and to Sheppey. There is a resident pair of Sparrow Hawks in my neighbourhood and the female perched on my garden fence briefly about a decade ago. There are regular deposits of avian corpses in the garden but it’s hard to say whether its the Sparrow Hawks or the local cats of which there are several. More recently had a visit of a Kestrel here which was a thrill.

          The Sparrows are wising up to the cat threat and often come to feed and drink in pairs with one keeping watch. The Starlings are not so smart and their corpse count tops that of Sparrows and Robins.

          The big point I would make after some years of countryside exile from London is that each year can be slightly or vastly different from the preceeding year or somewhere in between. That is something that is relatively unknown in London where natural life is more constant. The abundance of a particular variety of spider, for example, can be great for a year or two, then they are nowhere to be seen. Why? A decade or so back and you could here two or three different owl calls at night; now only one. Why?

          They are free agents and often shiftless and restless. We humans tend to forget that.


  17. StewGreen says:

    May 28th story I bet the streetswere packed with LK, Peston, Rigby , Maitlis recording this lockdown breach


    • vlad says:

      Their ‘religion’ trumps everything, and no-one dares object.

      And it’s gonna get worse, much worse.


    • gb123 says:

      They are not men, they are Devo!


    • G says:

      Same with my Lithuanian neighbours: Couldn’t give a toss for English law or regulations. Funny that. Almost always foreigners trying to ‘blend’ into our way of life…………


  18. StewGreen says:

    Antiques Road Show
    camera pans crowd 2 quick focuses on guess what type
    boxes ticked

    Just both cameras are pointed and particular people at the back of the crowd.
    boxes ticked
    Ah the next item is actually with one of those guys
    Black guy but public school accent , has a Times printing plate from a space mission story.


    • Deborah says:

      And on the good, better best section I missed the black man on the left of the screen. Miss Bruce could see him though and miraculously thought he would be one of the ones whose opinion she needed.
      I think we have had a 100% hit rate of Fiona asking a black person their opinion in this section this series. In case Maxi thinks I am being unfair, the visitors on the programme are not 33% black but the proportion Ms Bruce asks are.


  19. StewGreen says:

    9pm Smithsonian Channel has an item about Lockdown in Shanghai


  20. vlad says:

    Every year in the US, hundreds of whites are killed by blacks without a squeak from the media. (533 in 2016)

    Every year, white police officers are killed by black offenders.

    Where are the riots?

    Where’s the outrage and the special reports from our US correspondents, beeb?




  21. StewGreen says:

    Quarantine ?
    How about you must employ a quarantine officer when you buy your airline ticket.
    He then meets you at the airport when you arrive, drives you home
    and video phone calls you at random hours.
    You break quarantine, means he gets to keep your £1,000 quarantine deposit.


  22. Fedup2 says:

    Twitter watch

    It seems that the Conservative party is recommencing hostilities with the MSM – tonight piers Morgan complaints that no Tory MP is willing to do his programme on Monday . I’ve never seen it and never will – but I gather he just competes as thug against a growing number of competitors In an awful field

    Might be interesting to see if they avoid the BBC as well . I can’t see any benefit for any Conservative MP appearing before any BBC ‘journo’ ….


    • StewGreen says:

      Schizophrenic Morgan
      “I BAN you” .. “Why aren’t you here ??”

      – One minute he bans Tories from his prog cos they won’t sack cummings
      – Next minute he complains that no Tory MP is willing to do his programme on Monday .


      • JamesArthur says:

        I switched onto Mr Morgan today and lasted 5 secs as he ranted about testing again and used the example of him being able to sleep with 100 Supermodels….I think he was trying to make a point about being able to and actually doing – but he is off his trolley

        It is real shame he has descended so far down now I doubt he will get out….


  23. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    “As a black American I’m terrified.”

    Protests have continued across the US over the death of George Floyd, who died in the US city of Minneapolis after a white police officer used his knee to pin him to the ground.

    bbc.in/2Me19T0 (via BBC World Service)


    #bbcquotes calming stuff down nicely there.


    • G says:

      Ignoring the rights and wrongs of the genesis of the Floyd issue, police should refuse to attend a crime involving black(s). What’s the betting that like the UK’s Stop and Search (it being discriminatory), the public will eventually clamour for the police to resume policing the black community. Properly. Crime stats speak for themselves.


  24. Beltane says:

    ‘Enough, enough’, says Boris. ‘Let’s move on.’
    And the BBC ever prepared to be as one with the government, do just that.
    Sadly, this means there’s no point in giving any more publicity to the two major Guardian phoning creeps whose snide and politically motivated actions make duplicity a virtue and dishonour a talent.
    So yes, the BBC do just that. They don’t mention it. Because they’ve been told not to.


  25. Guest Who says:

    He was originally from South Africa, I believe.

    Probably not a farming area.


  26. StewGreen says:

    screenshot from The Times Matthew Syed
    “If the BBC picks a side, it will already have lost”

    Here’s full page



  27. Guest Who says:

    I guess if you want to see something that isn’t there enough, you will.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Looking at the replies, it does make you wonder. Has the human race suddenly become more stupid, or is it just that social media has given us an insight into thought processes that are really best hidden?


  28. vlad says:

    The anarcho-savages target Fox News.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Beeb R4 has told us why: it’s “Institutionalised Racism”, you know. The revolutionaries (including beeb) offer this as an excuse for the burning down of US cities.
      We heard it during the English riots. Mc Pherson said so. He should have been made an honorary Hero of the Soviet Union. Or, perhaps, a few Antifa medals. The Molotov bottle top -for burning the most cars, or the looting of the most shops, for instance.
      Nick Robinson is rather pleased about this revolution on Toady: Trump had to hide in his bunker.


  29. StewGreen says:

    Will you let the Tele-Scummies brainwash your children ?



  30. SpinningReith says:

    That picture could never be too small!


  31. taffman says:

    Al Beeb tells us “Primary schools reopening as parents remain wary”. How many of those “wary” parents have already broken the lockdown with barbecues etc etc ?


  32. dafydd says:

    ..here we go again….

    America having riots because of race, so what do the news channels lead with over here, “UK a tinder box of race hatred waiting to ignite”….

    What a stupid and inflammatory comment…

    Unbelievable….I seriously despair sometimes..Certain people will see the comments made by the media and see this as an opportunity to kick off..


    • LynetteO says:

      Just happened to tune to Radio 4 to yesterday afternoon hear them promoting a novel about a black homosexual Jehovah’s Witness who became ostracised from his famly. That was it – off switch again !


    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      I also suspect they will be at it again soon over here.
      They will be needing new tellys, computers and music systems as the ones they looted from the last riots will be starting to age.

      They are a very exciteable lot and are given to looting, sorry, rioting, at the drop of a spliff.

      I wish some tv station would put out the stats, blacks killed by whites compared to whites killed by blacks and we would see if their grievances are justified.

      Compare the reaction to Kriss Donald with Stephen Lawrence for instance.
      I know it was a different lot but the basic situation (us v them) is the same.


  33. Darcy3 says:

    Just imagine if hundreds of white schoolchilren were being gang raped, pimped out to other muslims and racially abused by muslim male adults precisely because they were white Christians ?

    In every city around the UK for years on end ?

    And the Police covered it up ?

    People would be on the streets looting, burning and attacking muslims and their shops

    The bbc would be full of outrage along with the rest of the media

    Antifa would be outraged and on the streets

    the millenial twats with their purple hair would be in Trafalgar Square attacking the Police

    Then I woke up, and same old [email protected]


  34. Darcy3 says:

    Just imagine if the one person who spoke in public about it was repeatedly attacked by muslims, antifa and the police and repeatedly jailed and vilified in public and in the press and by the bbc?

    And a black labour politician were to say that diversity was more important than the gang raping of white schoolchildren and that people should shut up sbout it ?

    Imagine the outrage ?

    Welcome to the millenial UK and it’s twisted millenial population and BAME kommunihi


  35. The WestWyvern says:

    Off topic, but the UK Border Farce drone is airborne over the channel.
    Reg is G-TEKV.
    Currently showing on Flight Radar24 as departing Lydd 3.38hrs ago. It’s been orbiting mid channel and one leg took it as far west as Eastborne.
    Lots of time spent mid channel roughly aligned with Boulogne.

    I wonder if Nigel Farrage is out for a spot of fishing this morning.


  36. Thoughtful says:

    Searching down the dusty corridors of memory casting back to the last time a singular black was murdered whilst innocently engaging in criminal behaviour and violent assault – Treyvon Martin.

    It led to a general backlash against Blacks and the Fascist Left when the truth finally came out and showed US President Barak Obama up to be a violent criminal supporting bigot – not that you would know with the scummedia reporting.

    Last year in London alone there were 90 fatal stabbing, most of which were Black on Black. 90 dead Black kids and where was the protest and the Fascist Left then?

    It led to the simple change of phrase which needs to be ressurected – Black knives matter.

    The hypocrisy of the Fascists needs to have a spotlight shone on it, because their appalling race hustling and attacks on the hated Whites needs to be stopped in its tracks.

    Black Knives Matter


    • Up2snuff says:

      The irony is, T, that the looting and arson – especially in Minneapolis – tends to only hurts the black and other ethnic community. They work in those stores or they have jobs delivering to those stores or taking customers there by cab.

      Or maybe they work for insurance companies and other businesses who get hurt in the collateral damage and then get laid off. Why is the solution always self-harming violence? Stupid is as stupid does, time and time again.

      Criminal destruction really only hurts the people mostly doing the damage along with white extremists of the ANTIFA and similar groups.


  37. Guest Who says:

    House journal goes bunker. I wonder what the one at the bbc is for?

    Meanwhile, in America, Lurch decides to stir further and provoke a reaction.

    Rock and hard place meets propaganda and censorship.

    Normal folk are getting swarmed and savaged by black clad individuals assured of support, often financial, by politicians and celebs.

    When they are eventually defended, the bbc under Lord Hall Hall is of course ready for the next phase, cretins are saying.


    • Jeff says:

      Try to imagine the response from the BBC and the Guardian if it had been the saintly President Obama who had been forced to take shelter in an underground bunker, while the White House was being stormed by white thugs.
      Somehow I think their sympathies would be entirely with the president.
      The demonstrators /rioters would be referred to as “racist scum”.
      They would be pilloried in the press. There would be calls for racist organisations such as White Lives Matter to be termed as terrorist groups and banned.
      I just can’t think what the difference is…


  38. Guest Who says:

    This is what the bbc invites on, and who they seek to inspire.


    • Guest Who says:

      Failed paper once edited by Amol, oft quoted by bbc goes bbc route…



      • Thoughtful says:

        Who ?


        • Ian Rushlow says:

          Thoughtful… not ‘who?’ but ‘what?’. I think Kesha is a new grain being sold by Waitrose as an alternative to Quinoa.


    • Guest Who says:

      And here the BBC’s fave potty gob is stirring further…

      Indulge such behaviour at your peril, Aunty.

      Precedent can meet the law of unintended consequences.


      • Guest Who says:

        A Campbell stormtrooper.


    • Guest Who says:

      This is how it is now.


      • Darcy3 says:

        Campbell, the lying warmonger who created so many home grown terrorists

        WMD report Campbell ?

        Despite agreeing that the purpose of the dossier was to “make the case” for action against Iraq, the report remarkably finds that, “There is no evidence that intelligence was improperly included in the dossier or that No.10 improperly influenced the text.”

        Yet the chapter on the dossier describes several examples of Campbell suggesting draft changes and asking for rewrites before the dossier was published.

        For instance the report describes a meeting on the dossier chaired by Campbell in September 2002.

        Quoting a passage from Campbell’s own published diaries, the report says, “Commenting on the meeting, Mr Campbell wrote that the dossier: ‘…had to be revelatory and we needed to show that it was new and informative and part of a bigger case’.”


        Campbell also wrote that John Scarlett, chair of the Joint Intelligence Committee and in charge of producing the dossier “was clearly aware of the responsibility, he was so serious”.

        The report also describes how Campbell later sent notes on a draft to Scarlett with comments from Blair. It says, “Mr Campbell wrote that Mr Blair thought it was ‘a very good job and it was convincing’, but had a number of comments.”

        The report notes that the dossier had originally been commissioned by 10 Downing Street in February 2002, and that Campbell would, “retain the lead role on the timing/form of its release


        • Guest Who says:

          Yup, the one the bbc cannot get enough of, expletives not deleted.


          • Darcy3 says:

            Campbell had significant influence over the structure and language used in the dossier. He also wrote its foreword, which appeared in Blair’s name.

            The foreword said, “The document discloses that his military planning allows for some of the WMD to be ready within 45 minutes of an order to use them.”

            This appears directly after a claim that Iraq’s dictator Saddam Hussein saw “the building up of his WMD capability, and the belief overseas that he would use these weapons, as vital to his strategic interests, and in particular his goal of regional domination.”

            The claim actually referred to battlefield weapons rather than the long-range ballistic missiles that were implied in the report. But this was also obscured during a re-write of the dossier—and the claim was inserted close to a paragraph speculating about Hussein’s ability to target Cyprus.

            The 45 minute claim was picked up by the media and became a central part of the case for war.


            • Guest Who says:

              This malign, messianic lunatic has been at the root of too much that harshes the national mellow for too long.

              And indulged by the MSM, esp. the BBC for most of it. He seems to have a 24/7 all-access pass to any studio at the drop of a tweet to say what he wants. All stemming from him, and them, not getting what they wanted years ago, at the ballot, and agitating to overturn it never since elsewhere; poll, petition, panel show… ‘protest’.

              And as his empire of idiocy and fear crumbles he appears to be going for a kamikaze scorched earth effort to take everyone with him. Helped by his propaganda ministry. This has poor historical precedent.

              There is danger of civil conflict not seen in ages.

              The battles lines are drawn.

              It is frustrating that I know what I favour in terms of democratic common sense, voting result respect, common decency, constant rule of law, non-violence, etc, but the rules of engagement have been redefined and drawn up in the media, who control the hive minds needing an electric eye for guidance.

              And in positions of relative power ranged against them are fools, thieves and cowards, just lest foolish venal or cowardly than the alternatives.

              I am still in observe and assess mode and unsure where I will place my flag when the time comes, but when I see the banners of Campbell, Morgan, BS, Robinson, Boulton, Mason, O’Brien, Snow, etc already proudly fluttering in the hypocritical camps of those who have no idea on anything bar to shout, protest, whinge and hide when the merest hint of what they dish out blows back, I know where I do not stand.

              Enough like me make this known, and these creeps may yet get stuck back in their box. At least until I am past caring about the next few generations of this family.


      • StewGreen says:

        Alastair Campbell is what they think Tommy Robinson is.
        ..a deep and dividing force for our society working for his own dark political ends.


  39. richard D says:

    Today programme this morning, around 08:20. American pastor (presumably black, but I didn’t hear the earliest part of the interview), Donald Trump supporter – demolished every single one of Nick Robinson’s points, and claimed that all Robinson was trying to do, and failing miserably, was to point the finger of blame for the rioting and looting at Mr Trump.

    At which point, Mr Robinson fully nailed his colours to the mast, and exhibited a raw, naked, hatred for the US President that completely blew away any rare, remaining shreds of impartiality. He did not like being exposed for this obvious bias at all.


  40. Guest Who says:

    One for Katty to RT.

    But maybe stay indoors, love.

    The guys roaming the hood may not know you are on pr duty.


  41. StewGreen says:

    Local radio news : “A man has died after bing trampled by cows YESTERDAY afternoon”
    .. em today is Monday, he died on Saturday, not yesterday.


  42. Guest Who says:

    Things are spiralling. Not optimistic.


    • richard D says:

      I have heard, over the past few days, a number of people whose ill health has basically meant, for their own protection, that they remain indoors, ‘shielded’, against possible infection.

      The ones the BBC have put on the air seem utterly aghast that the government should annonce stuff without consulting with them personally on the lifting of restrictions on them – and that – shock/horror, they are announcing stuff via the medium of a daily broadcast at a specific time, on TV – and have been doing this for weeks already. Then, to cap it all, the announcement about slightly relieving the constraints of lockdown regarding people who are ‘shielded’ was announced only a couple of days ago. ‘What huge event has happened in the last couple of days to make this tumultuous change ?’, I heard one ask.

      Well, nothing in the last few days, but a lot over the past few weeks, in case you hadn’t noticed, should have been the reply. And aren’t you guys the ones who were appearing on the BBC for weeks moaning about how being locked down so tightly was affecting your mental health ? And last, but not least, did you notice that nothing about this was in the least compulsory – if you don’t want to cross your doorstep, the lockdown Nazis won’t come and make you do it !

      Now – I don’t think for one second that those who appear on the BBC are actually totally representative of the larger group to which they belong, but what on earth do these individuals think the remaining 66 million people in the UK should do ?


  43. Fedup2 says:

    The first day of the latest biological experiment – and another that the MSMBBC will not allow their oppposition – the British Government to win .

    Either – no spike and we ve been wasting out time and money locked down


    A spike and the government shouldnt have done it and its all DCs fault .

    Meanwhile – being brutal ( like the BBC ) they are waiting for the first kid or teacher or dumb protester to die – in order that the bubble can go and protest outside somebody elses’ home .

    The DC briefing today might be interrupted by questions to the government and medics about some Chinese bug …..


  44. SkeptikEye says:

    In the USA a Black person gets killed by the police whilst being apprehended.. There are protests in some UK cities regarding Black lives Matter. In 2019 in the UK nearly 19000 children were trafficked, raped and abused by a particular ethnic minority. No demonstrations have occurred and very little if any reporting by the BBC. Obviously some lives matter more than others?


    • G.W.F. says:


      There were demonstrations against the rape of children in the UK. eg. The EDL and Tommy Robinson. The police were usually assisted by antifa and the UAF in breaking them up and the BBC played up alleged violence from the EDL and TR supporters.
      Today the UAF – who were supported by David Cameron, a founder member, celebrate their victory over TR arch anti rape protester.

      Unite Against Fascism
      May 26 at 5:28 PM ·
      Celebrate! One year ago, we stopped fascist ‘Tommy Robinson ‘ becoming a North West MEP.
      May 26 at 5:28 PM ·
      Celebrate! One year ago, we stopped fascist ‘Tommy Robinson ‘ becoming a North West MEP.

      Please share Video widely!

      Andy Burnham, Mayor of Greater Manchester, said:

      ‘I want to say a massive thank you to you all for everything that’s been done so far since the start of this campaign, but particularly to Unite Against Fascism and Stand Up to Racism.’

      Unite Against Fascism and Stand Up to Racism launched our campaign to stop him – with the support of North West trades unions, politicians and others – on the same night ‘Robinson ‘ announced he was standing (25th April 2019).

      UAF and SUTR distrusted thousands of leaflets, posters and stickers across the whole North West Region – Cheshire, Cumbria, Greater Manchester, Lancashire and Merseyside – as well as organising rallies, protests and other activities.

      @uaf #StandUpToRacism

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      I am too busy to find out how to reduce the size of the photo GWF


      • SkeptikEye says:

        G. W. F. Correct me if I’m wrong. I was under the impression that the EDL was founded as a response to the creeping Islamisation perceived to be happening within the UK. The ‘encouragement’ of multiculturalism allowed for Islamic practices within the self-ghettoised Muslim communities within towns and cities was becoming anathema to traditional ‘British values and mores’. The main stream media was quick to label the organisation as ‘far right or fascist. Tommy Robinson was at pains to try and distance the organisation from far right and fascist groups. Yet MSM continued with their vilification. Tommy Robinson became an outspoken advocate against ‘Asian’ grooming gangs as the establishment had ignored the plight of the victims of these grooming gangs which are prevalent primarily in towns a cities across the North o England.

        One could say that the defeat of Labour and the elevating to power of the Conservatives during 2019 general Election by the traditional Labour voters within swathes of Labours heartlands of the Northern towns and and cities. Was in its own way a ‘demonstration’ against the establishments (Labour councils) inaction in recognising and dealing with the Asian grooming gangs operating in those same towns and cities. As an aside Labour fail to acknowledge this as one of the reasons for their subsequent demise.


  45. richard D says:

    Martha Carney – another Trump-lover (sarc) on the BBC Today programme, had a former Obama appointee on this morning talking about the riots and looting going on across America. Just about the first question she asked was ‘What can be done to stop all this violence ?’.

    She was treated to a rosy description of how the Obama administration just loved black people and made their lives a real pleasure. She tried again, not too forcefully, to ask ‘So what can be done to quickly bring this to an end ?.

    The response was just a re-run of the first answer, but basically pointing out that Trump was now in charge, rather than Obama. So she tried again. Unfortunately the gentle prodding was easily ignored by the interviewee, who blubbered on again for a few minutes, eventually saying ‘It will take a lot of hard work’

    Sort of indicative of the strategic-level thinking that made Obama’s administration so great, eh ? But Carney never interrupted him once, never challenged him, never pointed out that he was obviously avoiding the question, and that, like most democrats these days – he didn’t have a damned clue.

    Compare and contrast this interview with the one by Nick Robinson and the Trump-supporting American Pastor (I mention it above) – where the gloves were off big-time.


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Martha Kearney (not to be confused with the – mercifully former – Governor of the BoE and pro-EU globalist Mark Carney.)


  46. infoquest says:

    From the latest edition of Lockdown Sceptics:-

    When the world regains its senses and the reckoning begins,

    I’ve got a little list, I’ve got a little list

    Of thugs and wimps and bullies who must answer for their sins,

    And they’ll none of ’em be missed, they’ll none of ‘em be missed.

    There’s the fornicating expert who despises his own rules,

    The SAGES who despise us all and take us all for fools;

    The servile politicians, solid wood from ear to ear,

    The BBC, dispensing the pornography of fear,

    And the morons and bed-wetters who on cowardice insist:

    They never would be missed, they never would be missed.

    There’s the shutter-off of playgrounds, paths and parks and even trees,

    The joyless pessimist, I’ve got him on my list;

    The neighbour who reports each normal person that she sees,

    She never would be missed, she never would be missed.

    There’s the vicious teaching unions who, in cowardice and spite,

    Inflict appalling tortures on each hapless little mite;

    There’s the spineless crawling bishops whom we’d do well to ignore,

    The twit who puts a mask on when he creeps out through his door,

    And the silly clapping seals who just don’t know when to desist:

    They never would be missed, they never would be missed.



  47. StewGreen says:

    SkyNews Aust video : University Vice Chancellors are ‘migration agents dressed in academic gowns’

    I used to think the British Council Offices around the world were good places
    but then I realised much of their operation was a sales business selling *overpriced* UK university places to rich foreigners
    foreigners whose money often came from local corruption.
    The dream of a UK work visa, that students get was part of it.


  48. taffman says:

    A quick look at Al Beeb’s website – nothing reported on their Brexit page since 20 May?
    “Michel Barnier: ‘Dynamism needed to avoid UK-EU talks stalemate”

    The question, is what are they not reporting ?


    • theisland says:

      Deliberately not reporting this (amongst other things)

      UK civil servants are spending taxpayers’ money advising ministers to enter a legal attachment to these EU Defence Union building blocks ‘to the extent possible under EU law’:
      European Defence Agency
      European Defence Fund
      Pesco here

      MPs are so misled by the briefings they read that they don’t know the nature of these ‘building blocks’.
      Senior civil servants are abusing their status by advising ministers to join these building blocks during the current EU talks. here


  49. G says:

    The Worldometer:


    374,229 Murders Worldwide.
    No retribution.


  50. StewGreen says:

    Yesterday government announced “test capacity” has reached 200k
    .. that does count for something
    But generally tests are done on people who think they are infected
    And as infection rates fall, there are less people who step forward for a test.