541 Responses to Weekend Thread 29 May 2020

  1. Guest Who says:

    Warm out.

    Some got burned.


    • StewGreen says:

      I didn’t even bother to complain
      cos I just assume the BBC is for libsupremacists and no me


  2. Sluff says:

    Partly but not wholly BBC.

    The news conference today (Sat) had notably less ‘gotcha’ journalism and was the better for it.

    But they still can’t help themselves.
    Someone asked an excellent question aboutbwhy wevstill have 8000 daily new cases, based on ONS survey.

    Van Tam totally avoided the question but rather than press him she went off with another question and let him off the hook.

    So we are still none the wiser.


  3. Beltane says:

    Most of those with even the most tenuous grasp of the word significant will be blissfully unaware of the fact the Independent, HuffPost and other such sources of vital news items are splashing Ian Hislop’s Hamlet-like soliloquy in last night’s HIGNIFY on the theme of Dominic Cummings.
    It was, we are assured, of mind-blowing merit in it’s message and on a par with The Sermon on the Mount or similar deliveries regarded as of great benefit to humanity.
    Me? I’ve not watched the biased crap for a decade – in fact I gave up buying PE after the Goldenballs Fiasco.


  4. Fedup2 says:

    Missed it . Shame – shock news via twitter rumour – The SNPs’ Ian Donuts Blackford in alleged “affair “ shocker …… ? I mean really ? Who with ? “The people of Scotland “ deserve to know !

    Wonder if that would move DC off the the front page …


    • Beltane says:

      Well it won’t be Krankie, who’d want to experience rimming with that tiny piranha mouth to snog?
      Perhaps he ‘liases’ with Salmond, that might explain the failure of all those groping claims.


    • pugnazious says:

      With himself…seems to love the sound of his own voice for sure.


  5. pugnazious says:

    5 Live just now…presenter telling us we need to create more stigma to shame those who don’t follow the rules exactly…and his show will take the lead in trying to do that.

    Public service at its best. The new priesthood.


  6. AsISeeIt says:

    Noted that someone hereabouts had pointed out that journos pursuing Dom Cummings was about the only sport on tv.

    I feel constrained to paraphase Oscar Wilde on fox hunting…

    the unspeakable in pursuit of the unbeatable


  7. Fedup2 says:

    At 1545 today Saturday on the BBC news channel Simon McCoy was interviewing a member of the public called Alistair Campbell . The footage in on the twitter of mr Campbell clearing using the Eff word . I don’t know if there was an instant apology –
    But it seems to me that the mentally affected Mr Campbell should t be allowed to speak to the public if he conducts himself like that .
    My goldfish was with me when I watched the interview and I could see he was visibly upset . When I watched it a second time a minute later he was visibly upset again 🐟


  8. pugnazious says:

    BBC being very selective with what it reports about the case of George Floyd.

    The names of the officers involved have been released….

    Derek Chauvin, J Alexander Kueng, Thomas Lane and Tou Thao.

    One white, two Asian, and one mixed race.

    The BBC only mentions the white officer’s name and only shows his photograph. Note…that ‘racist’ officer is married to an Asian-American.

    The BBC broadcasts a video of a rapper making a statement on the situation…

    ‘Rapper Killer Mike delivers an impassioned plea to protesters in Atlanta, after clashes over the killing of George Floyd.’

    Curiously they edit out this bit as he criticises CNN for spreading fear and anger everyday…just as the BBC is doing now…from Breitbart…

    ‘Atlanta-based rapper and activist Killer Mike slammed CNN for “feeding fear and anger every day” after the network’s worldwide headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia, was attacked by rioters in response to the death of George Floyd.

    While rioters vandalized CNN’s Atlanta offices, Killer Mike warned that the network must stop stoking fear among Americans.’

    And they’re not showing this for some reason…..


  9. Guest Who says:

    Not funny, but I laughed. Bbc to a ‘t’.


    • vlad says:

      Give the rioters a break: it’s been a long lockdown, they’ve got a whole lotta looting and burning to catch up on.


  10. theleftwilleatitself says:

    Genuine question, has the peroxide blonde done a Newsnight since her outburst 🤔
    And, hypotheticallly, whoever it was that asked the last daily briefing question today, I wonder if those 1 million signers of that petition took a truth pill and were asked whether they voted AGAINST Brexit, how many would say yes? 😉
    That leaves how many million that haven’t signed the bloody thing 👍


    • Fedup2 says:

      I don’t think you will get an answer because no one watches it . Guardian journos and readers might watch it but they don’t count – I’m referring the decent people who might have sent their household staff to bed …

      .. I’m fairly sure my kitchen staff , gardeners , game keeper, footmen and butler don’t watch it – but I’ll need to ask the PA and diary secretary ….


  11. StewGreen says:

    Radio4 Every prog must contain a #HateSignal against Cummings

    Loose Ends opens and Clive Anderson added a sneer at Cummings to his traditional opening sneering at Trump.

    Profile opens .. its of the Attorney General*
    ..we her an anonymous voice saying that Cummings was her test and she failed it
    Later there was a long segment against her from Blair’s pal Charlie Falconer.
    The prog contained very few Tory voices.

    BBC has two flagpoles :
    one with the EU banner
    … and the other has the Red Flag


    • StewGreen says:

      Oh I forgot the 11am Politics show was entirely Labour
      Left Out of Power
      Steve Richards examines the challenges for the Labour Party under Keir Starmer.

      but hang on Stew didn’t Radio4 have this show about Labour under Starmer ..about 7 weeks ago ?

      Yes they did ..this the SAME prog but updated
      ..to include sneers at Cummings
      U N B E L I E V A B L E
      This prog has been tweeted by the Official Greenwich Momentum account


    • StewGreen says:

      9am Radio4 favourite Jack Monroe was on
      then someone talking about her father’s Jamaican dance costumes

      1:15pm Any Questions
      with former Liberal Democrat leader Tim Farron, + David Lammy

      6:15pm Loose Ends
      with transexual children’s author Juno Dawson

      10:15pm Louis Theroux interviews Lenny Henry


  12. theleftwilleatitself says:

    Fedup, I don’t consume al beeb on my telly too but I am interested in how this is likely to pan out, long term 👍
    I read a Telegraph headline today that implied Maitlisssss is in a win-win, whereas al beeb is lose-lose 😁


    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes I read that too and I think I pre wrote the same thing here a couple of days ago. If she want to be a true social justice warrior she should become a politician because she is not a journalist now – if she ever was .

      Personally what I find vile is the fact that she and her husband are extremely wealthy and the BBC gives her the opportunity to display her personal views as some form of ‘ neutrality ‘ which it is anything but .

      I note that she is not a direct BBC employee so avoids PAYE NIC through her production company – which I guess is ‘off shore ‘. Her husband , after all, is a banker for a foreign bank .

      Not the best look .


  13. Halifax says:

    Is anybody else watching the first Politicaly Correct Space launch ?

    Talk about cringy …..Buzz must be thinking what the [email protected]@k, watching gimps putting playmobil people Into somthing that looks like it was designed by Blue Peter …..

    Its pc gone mad Latino African American male and female presenters and nobody over 40 ….

    I wonder how many white over 50 men where actually involved ???


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      The PC show. Embarrassing, or what?


      • Halifax says:

        At least the astronauts are called Doug and Bob……and are white male heterosexual both over 40 so probably would have voted Brexit !!!


    • Fedup2 says:

      Halifax – I’m sure there were a few offspring of German V2 rocket engineers …. to think the Saturn 5 could have had a swastika on it and be called the V5 or similar …..


    • Anders Thomasson says:

      SpaceX’s workforce is mainly young (younger than us anyway)


  14. Fedup2 says:

    I like to bring good news -and the BBC traitors wont like this – Austria is objecting to the proposed EU ‘ rescue package ‘ because Austrian taxpayers will be ‘ too burdened ‘ .
    Let the cats fight it out without The UK

    And just to add on the BBC – the first target for backs is the ‘ local ‘ politics shows – such as the one on Sunday morning designed by and for lefties – no loss .


    • StewGreen says:

      ? cutbacks


      • Fedup2 says:

        Yes Stew – sorry – ive switched the spell check off as it kept on turning Maitlisss
        Into the worst bad word there is …..


  15. StewGreen says:

    Libmob didn’t like Lord Sumption
    cos he said covis isn’t really a big deal
    and lockdown is cos politicians have no balls.



  16. G.W.F. says:

    Governmenmt guidelines allow people to use the toilet at the home of a relative you are visiting, but it is probably best to bring your own



  17. Guest Who says:

    Are bbc staff qualified and/or meant to offer such opinion?


    • Fedup2 says:

      The wiki on sykes says he has been at the BBC since 1974 in various bits of BbC News – so i suppose the tweet breeches editorial rules –
      Perhaps he has been with the monster for so long he thinks he can say what he wants a based on the Maitlis doctrine – or perhaps the lockdown has done his nut …

      Another patient for the ‘ BBC Executive Complaints whitewash unit ‘


  18. Deborah says:

    I switched off the Government briefing after I heard the question from the member of the public about public loos opening to allow disabled people to go out. Whilst I have sympathy for disabled people but common sense tells you disabled people are probably more vulnerable and that public loos are never the cleanest of places. How is a disabled user going to clean a loo sufficiently before using it?

    But I decided to watch the 10pm news on BBC1. We had film of Dominic linked with Professor Van Tamm. The latter was shown saying that it was a dangerous time and nobody should break the rules. The police had decided that Dom had not broken the rules taking his wife and son away from a place they didn’t feel safe. As far as the trip to Barnard Castle was concerned, it was of course Dom’s stamina he was testing not just his eyesight and he did not break the distancing rules. The BBC never give up.


  19. Guest Who says:

    Katty has decided to go Italian tonight.


    • JimS says:

      There is something weird about a ‘journalist’ in the USA working for a UK broadcaster re-tweeting a comment made by an Italian ‘journalist’ (lover of Mrs Meerkat’s shut-down of free speech) about her ‘home’ country.

      What is the point?

      (Why didn’t she re-tweet his comments re. masses of people in Rome? Why would an Italian in London tweet about Rome anyway?)


  20. Foscari says:

    Ok Its finally been sussed out that the Chinese virus is
    an old man’s disease . Just as 60 years ago when I was a teenager
    pneumonia was the old man’s friend. I know an oxymoron. But
    it put the old out of their misery very quickly when life had
    worn them out.
    Now I am an old man with a heart condition and myself and my
    wife cannot afford to behave like the lemmings at Durdle Door
    or all the other beaches all over the country.
    Of course there will be another spike in cases of the virus
    but to 99% of those under 55 or thereabouts it will only be
    somewhat worse than a bad dose of flu .
    Yes flu kills as well in the thousands , but who cares? Two metres
    apart? Do me a favour.
    Just keep away from me cyclists , sweaty runners. Cheltenham?
    You aint seen nothing yet.


  21. BRISSLES says:

    Lots of coverage of the non-white population in the U.S who are understandably angry at the death of one of their own at the hands of an obviously thuggish policeman. This has sparked a bit of vandalism in various cities, one of which is LA, a place where it doesn’t take much for violence to kick off.

    I wonder what Mr Sussex is making of it all, as the unrest is almost at the gates of his enclosure, with no Met police to soothe his troubled brow.


    • JimS says:

      Mr Sussex will probably be OK, it is the ‘Uncle Toms’ who have worked hard who will suffer.

      This isn’t ‘anger’ it is just an excuse to steal and destroy.


    • G says:

      I didn’t see rioting and looting following the video that emerged last week showing, ‘a person of colour’ beating sh*t out of a OAP.
      Why’s that then?


  22. StewGreen says:

    Maitliss hypocrisy & double standards
    Cummings = enemy
    sacked disreputable hacker = good friend
    (Mark di Stefano )


  23. StewGreen says:

    Anna Brees just got caught out today
    .. she one of the of the few UK journos not in the nasty pack
    She retweeted the US anti-Antifa journo Andy Ngo

    .. and an account said to her “Don’t retweet him, he’s a white sumpremacist”
    So stupidly she obeyed FFS

    It was a couple of hours before she apologised
    for falling for the bullying trick from the pro-antifa account who smear-label everyone as “white supremacist”… even gay Vietnamese guys like Ngo


  24. Bulldog says:

    Just heard Rosie Duffield, Labour M.P. for Canterbury, has resigned her position as Labour Whip after admitting she met her married lover against lockdown rules – they met for a walk – observing distancing rules – oh yeah? – he later visited her residence – sound familiar? She has apologised as she claimed she was going through a difficult time in her personal life.

    This was a 100% breach of lockdown rules whereas DC was a 5% breach at most but let’s see how much effort is expended by the media in reporting Rosie Duffield’s misdemeanours.


    • Peter Grimes says:

      Lying Labour will doubtless now point to Duffield’s virtues in resigning.

      Meanwhile the Remainer Leftoids’ ‘case’ against DC is falling further apart and shows itself ever more as an anti-Brexit plot.The supposed second sighting was a ‘bit of a joke’ according to the remain supporting Twatter poster who made the claim.
      Lees, the original Guardian informant, said …
      ‘I gave my name for something I saw which has been lied about. Total lies, follow that up. Nothing to do with me. I have kept to the rules throughout, I have walked once a day.’ When asked what lies he was referring to, Mr Lees said: ‘That he came here to test his eyesight, everybody knows that.’“..

      but being stupid and undoubtedly flustered by the for once adverse media attention rather than the flattery and praise he got from the Grauniad and the Crack’d, relies upon ‘lies’ about eyesight testing which only came up at DC’s inquisition, sorry, press conference. On top of that, Lees drove 250 miles on lockdown as well.


      You couldn’t make it up, unlike Remoaner Leftoids!


      • StewGreen says:

        “admits he made it up for a joke”
        “Witness who claimed to have seen Cummings return to Durham AGAIN ‘made it up as a joke’”

        Do you know where that was in the Radio4 7am news ?
        .. buried in the middle of the newspaper review !!!!

        Yet of course the original story was the top story

        That’s like original story front page
        ..retraction buried in the middle of page 32.

        … #MediaScum



      • StewGreen says:

        Who found the story ?
        ANTI BREXITER BARONESS HILARY ARMSTRONG DURHAM LABOUR MP tipped off by a local that he was seen she then told another labour mp who told the newspaper’s!
        Anti Brexiter Tim Matthews Admits he lied about seeing him!
        Robin Lee’s anti Brexiter had himself broken lockdown driving 500 miles

        Rosie Duffield story wasn’t mentioned in Radio4 news

        charity appeal now : Peruvian Climate Crisis


      • StewGreen says:

        Look at this Mail title
        How story that sparked a week of national rage was fuelled by fake news



  25. Halifax says:

    Got a friend in Llandudno ( cheap holidays) she tells me that the police are asking people on the beach and the prom…..are you from the area? If not then go back home …now.

    Hmmmm just imagine for one second the English police patrolling as asking …are you local.?……just imagine the lefty outrage about that one !!!! But its ok to send whitey English back home nothing said .


    • JimS says:

      “I am from France Iran. I demand asylum and a council house!”.


    • cromwell says:

      On the promenade in rhos on sea/colwyn bay there have been signs up for a couple of months saying do not stop your car here this is a tow away zone. That is disgusting, even if you cannot go on the beach you should have every right to stop your car on the prom, even if it’s only to look out to sea for a few minutes


  26. JimS says:

    Given that the media for decades have wanted to direct how we live shouldn’t we get to elect them?

    It grates with me when I hear the likes of Mr. Vine: “Mr Politician, (on a mere £70k), bow down before me, (on £700k and therefore superior), representative of the poor pensioner, (on £7k)”.

    Also the lie that they are all just observers and that they have no responsibility for anything that happens. (Apparently we are ‘all’ breaking ‘lock-down’ because Cummings, that 99% of the population had never heard of, ‘broke the rules’. So who put that thought in our minds?).

    Much as I enjoy the alternative ‘take’ of US Fox News and Sky Australia when they start talking about ‘the media’ they too are also taking no responsibility as they are also ‘the media’.

    “Farage, Nigel, the Brexit Party, 65,023,026 votes. Maitlis, Emily, the Bronzed Strumpet Party, 107 votes, (all posted in W1A). I declare Farage, Nigel, the elected member for the UK. Maitlis, Emily, loses her deposit.”


    • Darcy3 says:

      What a good idea RE media elections, and while we are at let the whole country vote for the Mayor of OUR capital, goodbye Khan. or will we suddenly find 50 million postal voters called mohamed…?


  27. smoogie7 says:

    How do you contact the BBC to let them know they need to make a correction to a story?

    It turns out that two people lied about Cummings one of which being that teacher who did not actually see him in Durham. Neither the Guardian or the Mirror have made this correction and unsurprisingly neither the have the BBC


    • Beltane says:

      Not just a little fib about the April 19 ‘sighting’, the bastard doctored his app to confirm route and time.
      How much coverage do you think our heroes Maitless and Hislop will give that one?
      It’s another indication of the vast conceit surrounding the BBC-Guardian Axis, as if they believe so firmly in their cause that trifling contradictory details, later discovered and aired by other MSM members can be ignored. DC should be fired, case proven.


      • smoogie7 says:

        I have contacted IPSO about the Mirror lie. The Guardian are so brilliant that they seem to think that they don’t need to be with IPSO but they should also be held to account for their lies.

        The BBC are not silent about the whole thing.

        The Tories are now polling at 4% or 5% in the polls. All that is down to the extreme bias against them from the MSM. It is fortunate that we are not heading towards an election but this bias needs to stop.


        • Beltane says:

          The Guardian don’t sign up to IPSOS because they can’t afford the subs.


  28. Oldspeaker says:

    bbc tells me these are protesters demonstrating when I see rioters rioting. Who ordered the palet of bricks?


    • G says:

      “People of colour”………………
      With a propensity for irrationality and violence.


    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      Should we be allowed to watch this on here? 🤔
      It seems a bit graphic to me 😬


      • Oldspeaker says:

        Thanks for the feedback, noted and I’ll keep it in mind when posting future links, on reflection probably should have left it at the soros? funded pallet of bricks. I would probably complain about the repeated msm playing of the George Floyd clip myself if I thought it would do any good.

        Perhaps Fed can disable the second link?


  29. dafydd says:

    Good “biased ” morning….

    Quick question, has anybody on this site actually had a response to a complaint sent to the BBC

    I never have..!!


    • Darcy3 says:

      yes although bland does not begin to describe their response, a non answer, Boris could do with their help in his briefings dealing with the Carlsberg harridan, if no answer the go to OFCOM or IPSO


    • Beltane says:

      That’s outrageous dafydd. I should complain about it…..


    • Fedup2 says:

      Dafyd – the executive complaints unit publishes a fortnightly report on complaints . If you take a look – it could be called the ‘not upheld unit’ as that seems to be all it does .

      Judging by the way the BBC is conducting itself I think the complaints unit will need additional resources to deal with the sheer volume .

      But no doubt the BBC will draw up ‘guidelines’ to limit the number of complaints it accepts – that after all – is what self serving organisations with no accountabilty actually do .


    • Deborah says:

      I always ask for a response to make the so-and-sos work for my money. I always get the response after about two weeks to say they are soooo busy they cannot respond in the 10 day time frame. Then months later I get an answer to a general question I didn’t ask rather than the tightly framed question I did ask. And I was wrong! I am not so stupid that I can’t see it is one answer written in response to lots of complaints.

      I know I should write a follow up, but I give up.


      • Darcy3 says:

        That is a way that lazy or incompetent complaint handlers cheat the targets they are required to meet, such is many local authorites, they send a holding response within a week or so then often claim over 99% complaints responded to on time

        weasel words as few complaints are resolved in that time frame, if ever, whoever sets the KPIs should tighten them up considerably and then hold them to acoount

        I have seen complaints sitting for 30 -40 days or more at a certain local authority with little inclination for anyone to respond further than the initial holding response

        (simple complaints not requiring an extensive investigation)

        An LA that claimed over 97% “efficiency in complaints management” FFS

        how convenient as the target was 96%

        (to keep their outsourced contract)


  30. Fedup2 says:

    The mail on Sunday – being different from the ordinary daily mail – publishes a ‘defence’ of the DC nonsense – I can’t be bothered reading beyond the headline but I think it is one of the few ‘defence’ pieces written so far .

    The MSM to want to report riots in a country 5000 miles away -which is very different to its attitude towards the enemy a few miles away across the water bridge they use to get rid of a few third worlders .

    The MSM led by the BBC has managed to keep the DC nonsense in the public’ mind ‘ so that the traitor MPs can carry on the chorus when the Parliament returns on Tuesday . If they had any principle they’d call a ‘vote of no confidence ‘ which – of course – they’d lose. But they won’t .

    It may be argued ….that The opposition Labour/BBC Party is responsible for any diminishing of public obedience to the ‘rules’ of lockdown .

    They could have ignored it ,or gave him a kicking and moved on but chose to run it into where it is now . Collective national eye rolling …


    • Darcy3 says:

      Riots in Paris for months and not a mention.. wonder why?


    • smoogie7 says:

      The Mirror also have a story up that ‘Johnson has Cummings on his last chance’ but failed to mention the rest of what the Mail said. To do that would admit that they are liars


  31. StewGreen says:

    Oh look last week a top media voice calling out BBC for missing out words in the Durham report, that ITV news carefully reported
    .. I wonder what happened to him ?
    …. oh yeh the sacked him on a trumped up charge.


    • StewGreen says:

      Alastair Stewart just retweeted this


      • G says:

        Yes, long may the massaged News of, “The World’s Most Trusted Broadcaster” continue (not!) to receive support from their delusional supporters.
        “I believe the country needs it”. Yes, just like a dose of the chinese virus!!


  32. dafydd says:

    I note that Labour MP Rosie Duffield resigns after breaking lock down rules, she was caught meeting up with here married lover.

    What about Stephen Kinnock Shadow Africa Minister, who drove 100’s of miles to see his dad in Wales. South Wales police have gave him a flee in his ear and told him he had broken the lock down laws.

    Yet another transgression by a Labour politician ( 5 so far ) and not a mention on the BBC news yet regarding this new breach.

    You wait, if a Conservative MP transgressis, it will be wall to wall coverage


    • richard D says:

      …but, dafydd, she is only giving up her role as a Labour whip. She most definitely is not resigning from her day job (as an MP), which is what she and Starmer’s stormtroopers demanded of Dominic Cummings.

      And much of the media are misleading the public by reporting in their headlines simply that she has resigned.

      No doubt ‘many’ will see this as an honourable act by a Labour representative as opposed, of course, to the dastardly Mr Cummings, no matter the reports now emerging that some stories used by the gutter press to vilify him were just that – stories – fabrications.


  33. theisland says:


    Ed Davey – Private Members’ Bill presented to Parliament on Wednesday 20 May 2020.

    Summary of the European Union Withdrawal (Implementation Period) Bill 2019-21
    A Bill to require Her Majesty’s Government to seek a two-year extension of the implementation period under Article 132 of the Withdrawal Agreement; to repeal the prohibition on agreeing to such an extension under section 33 of the European Union (Withdrawal Agreement) Act 2020; and for connected purposes.

    2nd Reading on 12 June.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Poor Ed Davey – in thr liberal bunker benearh berlin surrounded by opposition forces. But still directing nonexisting armies of support …
      But he wants to keep his job so maybe not so dekusuonal …


  34. Darcy3 says:

    A SENIOR Tory has sent BBC chiefs a dossier of “disgraceful bias” displayed by its star news presenters.

    Sir Gerald Howarth has compiled a long list of recent examples in which he says TV and radio hosts have broken their strict rules of impartiality.

    The ex-minister has demanded to be told why bosses have not reprimanded Emily Maitlis over her Newsnight Dominic Cummings rant.

    And he claims her colleagues tried to bounce an outspoken Tory MP off the programme after he said he planned to defend the PM’s senior aide.

    The Beeb received 40,000 complaints in the two days after Maitlis delivered her critical Cummings monologue.

    In a hard hitting letter to BBC Director General Lord Hall, Sir Gerald accuses his presenters of delivering a “relentless diet of gloom and negativity” since the pandemic began.

    He names those he believes are the major culprits and provides a list of incidents.

    Sir Gerald fired off his four-page missive after what he describes as Ms Maitlis’s “disgraceful performance” on Tuesday night.

    In her introduction to the BBC2 current affairs programme, she said Mr Cummings had “broken the rules” during the lockdown.

    Sir Gerald says in his letter: “The introduction left the viewer in no doubt as to her — and by extension the BBC’s — views.”

    His dossier also accuses BBC Health Editor Hugh Pym of putting “impertinent and disrespectful” questions to Health Secretary Matt Hancock.

    He claims Radio 4 presenter Justin Webb used the expression “Conservative supporting” in front of Daily Telegraph, and said “he poisoned the public information well”.



    • Peter Grimes says:

      Jugears Serial Philanderer Marr is currently hectoring Dominic Raab quoting, Corbynutta-like, someone who wrote to Radio5Dead saying the advice they had been given by NHS 111 was to stay put at all costs. Even admitted to Raab’s response that he was contrasting with DC.

      Al Beeb clearly not giving up despite the increasing probability that this is all Remoaner political chicanery.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Ok -who – on this site is really Sir Gerald Howarth ?


      • Captain Panick says:

        OK FU2, in the interests of the traditional reply…… I am Sir Gerald Howarth. Who will stand with me?


        • Fedup2 says:

          Thank you Sir Gerald – at least someone is worth their Knighthood .


  35. Darcy3 says:

    THE BBC has been bombarded with more than 40,000 complaints in just two days after Emily Maitlis broke the impartiality rule with a rant about Dominic Cummings.

    The Newsnight presenter was swiftly reprimanded by the BBC who admitted she had crossed the line when reporting on the PM’s chief advisor “breaking lockdown rules”.

    The number of people writing to the BBC to lodge their anger at Ms Maitlis’ monologue about Mr Cummings’ trip to Durham doubled from 18,000 in 24 hours.

    The BBC put out an apology the day after the controversial introduction to the program on May 26.

    Ms Maitlis had told her Newsnight viewers that the Prime Minister was playing the country “for fools” and accused him of blind loyalty to his adviser – which was putting Government messaging on coronavirus at risk.

    A statement the broadcaster put out on twitter said: “The BBC must uphold the highest standards of due impartiality in its news output.

    “We’ve reviewed the entirety of last night’s Newsnight, including the opening section, and while we believe the programme contained fair, reasonable and rigorous journalism.

    “We feel that we should have done more to make clear the introduction was a summary of the questions we would examine, with all the accompanying evidence, in the rest of the programme.

    “As it was, we believe the introduction we broadcast did not meet our standards of due impartiality.

    “Our staff have been reminded of the guidelines.”



    oh well that’s allright then let’s all move on, nothing to see here

    A pity Mr Cummings was not just “reminded”

    would have saved a rainforest of print and bbc bile


  36. Darcy3 says:


    “Note to self, next time “remind” Dominic, if it is good enough for those at the bbc betraying national trust…”


  37. Darcy3 says:

    Something to brighten the morning ?

    JOHN Bercow’s hopes of taking a seat in the Lords have been crushed.

    The former Commons Speaker was nominated by ex-Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn after the PM refused.

    But now it has been rejected by the Lords Appointments Commission.

    They also threw out a bid to give a peerage to Karie Murphy, who was executive director of Mr Corbyn’s office.

    Mr Bercow was investigated for alleged bullying which he denies.

    And Ms Murphy is at the centre of an Equalities Commission probe into the ­handling of anti-semitism in the party.

    A spokesman said: “Our guidelines make clear that an individual must be in good standing in general and with the public regulatory authorities in particular.”


    • Fedup2 says:

      Darcy – thanks – i was going to post that cheery news but was trying not to mention the traitors’ name ,


      • Darcy3 says:

        I will refer in future to “the sawn off little runt with the funny ties”


  38. theisland says:

    I had forgotten this.

    Last year Mateless libelled Richard Tice on Newsnight and the BBC had to apologise with a full statement live the following week.
    According to Richard Tice they also had to remove all trace of the clip from all their media platforms.


  39. StewGreen says:

    Video : Coming out as non-lefty
    .. is way harder than coming out as gay

    Dave Rubin speaking on SkyNewsAust about identity politics


  40. Sluff says:

    Earlier in the thread I lamented the useless journalist who asked an excellent question but did not follow up the lack of answer.
    Her question in terms was How Come 8000 people a day are still getting Cv19 9 weeks after lockdown. The reply was totally evasive, going to great lengths to answer a minor part of her question and avoiding the main issue.

    It gets serious. Five doors up the road a frail elderly lady has caught Cv 19. But she is known as a bit of a recluse and never really goes out. She can only have caught it from her carer or by going in to hospital on a non Cv19 matter.

    And that’s not all. Five doors the other way is a family where six years ago the man of the household had a massive stroke. He’s been in care with locked-in syndrome ever since, unable to move. Last week he died of CV19.

    Two cases. Both a stone’s throw from my house. Both have caught the virus not in spite of but because of the intervention of the health care sector. Meanwhile a couple of weeks ago there was a little flurry of news, from ITV and of all places the Guardian, that a sizeable but conveniently under-researched and so imprecise number, educated guessed as high as 20%, of hospital Cv19 deaths were of people testing negative on initial entry. Did they catch it in hospital? The BBC did not follow this up – not in line with the NHS Heroes narrative. ‘NHS kill thousands’ was not an editorially-acceptable headline for them.

    Are we now at the stage where the pandemic is a sort of gigantic public sector job creation scheme? The health sector give us the virus through their negligence, then they look after us, with barely used ventilator wards, ITU wards, numerous officials giving advice, test and trace. Money no object. Etc etc. On Thursdays hitherto we applaud them, mostly brainlessly.

    The above proposition may be harsh. But it would certainly explain why they’re so reluctant to tell us how people are still getting infected.

    Meanwhile, the NHS pension scheme alone cost the rest of us £19 bn last year.


    • StewGreen says:

      “as high as 20%”
      probably more like as high as 90%
      of Covid originates from health sector


      • Darcy3 says:

        Last year I had to suggest to my local GP practice that their new “touch screen” registration upon arrival is likely a hotbed of infection and some sanitiser gel should be available nearby

        None there thought of that FFS

        thank goodness they took up the suggestion, although touch screens and doctors surgeries should not go together IMHO

        I could add a few more things like endless fire doors with rat trap strength springs etc, it does not take a genius to work out considering frail, elderly or disabled patients.

        I once got scalded in an office by one of these “safety doors” with a hot coffee in my hand as it sprung back at 70 mph

        and have spent many a sleepless night in hotels hearing them slam back all along the corridor one after another


  41. Jeff says:

    Surely, even to the most obtuse, it’s now abundantly clear that this lengthy lockdown has caused far more problems than had we been allowed to work and sensibly socialise after the initial three week span.
    I think most of us can understand the fear that prompted BoJo to act. We’d seen what had happened in Italy. The NHS (peace be upon it) wasn’t ready and we needed time to build facilities for the potential patients… But FFS not now!
    We have more hospital beds than ever. The new Docklands hospital has 4,000 beds… all of them empty.
    And yet there’s a huge backlog of heart and cancer referrals. Continuing in this fashion is bloody bonkers. I keep seeing this silly term “Save the NHS”. That’s arse about face, the NHS exists to save us.

    Expecting small businesses to be able to cope with this daft and completely arbitrary two metre rule is simply ludicrous. We’re a service based economy. Restaurants, shops, bars and bistros need customers. Lots of them. It can’t work!
    Even before the lockdown strangled our economy the high street was in trouble. Now, if only one were available, it would be put on a life support machine.
    Even the likes of Norway have started to acknowledge that the lockdown has done little good.
    It seems clear that the government isn’t about to change course.
    The media continue with their puerile, pointless and vindictive obsession with Dominic Cummings.
    Is it too much to ask that they turn their attention to enquiring how and when we’re going to get out of this crippling economic suicide?
    It would seem so…


  42. Foscari says:

    I was absolutely amazed that the BBC showed a repeat
    Celebrity Mastermind last night when cricketer Monty
    Panasar just about knew his own name when it came to general
    I expect the researchers and editor who put it out just
    made the criteria, that the programme for positive
    discrimination reasons had to have the correct “mix” of
    contestants. Irrespective of the fact that Monty afterwards
    said that he had never been so embarrassed.


    • Darcy3 says:

      Maybe we need an alternative for some of our more challenged BAMES as it seems they MUST be represented, unlike whites in the 100 M dash or basketball teams

      Massah mind or something


    • Fedup2 says:

      Foscari – that one was so bad I remember it and bet it’s on the YouTube . I think stress got time and he lost his‘ listening skills ‘ Or alternatively he is just really thick .

      I think he even got the “where was the Boston tea party?” Question wrong ….. he didn’t look too worried about looking thick – but I bet with mum and dad watching he got the full broadside ……


  43. StewGreen says:

    Screenshots from Mail
    2 eye witnesses

    The Labour peer that passed the fake evidence on

    I don’t believe the “sources say Dom has been given a final warning” story


  44. pugnazious says:

    Whoa there Boris…you’re going too far too fast with this dangerous relaxation of the lockdown….people willl die…blood on your hands….genocide and ethnic cleansing…we all know it’s the ethnic minority that are the true victims of your reckless policies that target the Bame community!

    The BBC has been happy to provide a prominent, long and loud platform to some scientists who claim that loosening the lockdown now is dangerously early…..these scientists are of course trying to distance themselves from any blame saying it’s all the government’s fault…naturally the BBC is all ears.

    We’re told the government’s claim that it is ‘following the science’ is wrong…that this is entirely a political decision and the government is trying to use the scientists as human shields….well yes, the politicians decide…but using the science as the basis of that decision….’following the science’.

    The very next words that come out of their mouths is that the government must follow their advice and do what they say….er…isn’t that the scientists taking the decisions when they just bemoaned the fact that the government says it is following their advice and this is passing the buck? Their advice isn’t one conclusion…it’s a range of options from which the government has to pick taking into account all other considerations…but these scientists now want to say theirs is the only option and you must ignore the economy or social life or other health concerns.

    They seem to want it both ways but the BBC doesn’t point out the hypocrisy in their statements. Far from it in fact….here’s the BBC’s James Gallagher telling it like it isn’t as he bigs up the scientists telling us how important they and their comments are….

    ‘This is a significant moment.

    Throughout the pandemic, the scientists and politicians have been following the same script.

    Now there is a clear, loud and public split between some of those advising government and those “following the science”.

    They may not be household names, but those speaking out are big figures in their fields and sit on Sage for a reason.’

    So the BBC thinks this highly political interventon by advisors is ‘significant’….because of course it is anti-Boris and will be used to pass the blame onto him if there is any upsurge in cases, and it lines up with the BBC’s own views on the glories of the lockdown which it loves for a whole variety of reasons.

    Curiously they don’t report this from the Chief Scientific Adviser Sir Patrick Vallance…

    ‘Science advice to Cobr and to ministers needs to be direct and given without fear or favour. But it is advice. Ministers must decide and have to take many other factors into consideration. In a democracy, that is the only way it should be. The science advice needs to be independent of politics.’

    Or indeed the words of the Sage committee’s own report….

    ‘SAGE has not provided a recommendation of which interventions, or package of interventions, that Government may choose to apply. Any decision must consider the impacts these interventions may have on society, on individuals, the work force and businesses, and the operation of Government and public services.’

    Sage provides the advice, a range of different scenarios, outcomes and interventions…..it is up to the government to choose….but it uses that scientiifc advice as the basis for its decision…so quite clearly it does ‘follow the science’ when making its decisions…to claim otherwise is ludicrous and just a bit dishonest.

    You can see the deliberate attempt by the BBC’s Gallagher to mock the government’s claims on this…

    ‘Now there is a clear, loud and public split between some of those advising government and those “following the science”.’

    But they are following the science…choosing from the range of options laid out before them by the scientists…taking into account all other considerations as well…economic, social and other health costs such as more deaths from cancer.

    These scientists shout that if we release too early we’ll have a massive second wave…..hmmm…actually it has long been acknowledged that a strict lockdown would result n a second wave when released…the BBC repeatedly told us this would be so…in fact Sage itself told us this….

    ‘Combining stringent social distancing measures, school closures and quarantining cases, as a long-term policy, may have a similar impact to that seen in Hong Kong or Singapore, but this could result in a large second epidemic wave once the measures were lifted. ‘

    So why didn’t these scientists object strenuously when the draconian lockdown was imposed, knowing as they would, that a second wave would result?

    The conventional wisdom is that a lockdown merely postpones deaths…giving time for the NHS to prepare….a short lockdwon might be beneficial if properly managed and not overly severe unlike the draconian one we ended up with, but to keep the country under such a tight lockdown in perpetuity is madness especially when everytime it looks like being loosened we get cries of ‘too early’ and new excuses why it should be kept going ‘just a few more weeks…if only we had this or that before we do it!!!’…one day you have to bite the bullet and get on with life whilst managing the risks.

    The Sage options were laid out in this graph…

    You can clearly see a draconian lockdown would result in a second wave whilst moderate social and behavioural interventions would lower the peak and result in no second wave.

    The government initially chose the moderate option…a plan long laid out by the government’s pandemic planning strategy…following ‘the science’…until this was overturned by intense media pressure which ramped up the threat and sensationalised every death giving the impression that everyone was going to die. Suddenly the government did an enormous u-turn and we found ourselves in lockdown….Boris and Co afraid of being accused of genocide and mass murder by their ‘indifference’ to the threat…as of course they would have been and were…and are being lined up for again now.

    These are scientists trying to intervene politically with the BBC failing to challenge anything they say….in fact far from challenging it the BBC presents their statements as the ultimate truth, the gourndtruth around which everythig else must operate…much as they quoted anything from the EU as the only rational and practical thing to do…anything the British government said had to be held up in comparison to the EU’s statements…and was always found wanting, the British being intransigent, unrealistic and foolish.


  45. Ed Hitter says:

    The Mail on Sunday today gives us the lowdown on the lies and deceit behind the origins of the Cummings story.
    It seems the retired teacher who reported Cummings to police had himself driven 250 miles to collect his daughter during the crisis.
    And then the witness who claimed he saw Cummings on a second lockdown trip to Durham has now admitted he made up the story as a joke.
    The Mail also reveals that it was a Guardian photographer who daubed graffiti all over the road outside Cummings’s house last week.
    Interesting stuff, and good to see Camilla Tominey of the Telegraoh pointing out the details on Marr this morning.
    Marr did indeed acknowledge the article – but he typically did what the BBC always does, which is to avoid any culpability itself.
    Despite the fact that it was the BBC that fell hook, line and sinker for this deceitful story in the first place, and which led the pile-on against Cummings for a whole week, it is now trying to pretend that this shocking, politically conflated story was someone else’s doing.
    I doubt we we’ll see the BBC offering up any apologies or clarifications.


    • pugnazious says:

      Ed don’t be silly…Cummings was guilty, he demonstrated his contempt for The People[one rule for them and one for him and his elitist chums] and has undermined trust and confidence in the lockdown which people now feel fully justified in flouting and this will result in mass deaths ‘due to Cummings’…we know all this because the BBC confirmed the story was true….Wark on Newsnight on the day this scandal broke and then subsequently of course by Maitlis who quite rightly refused to front Newsnight for the following two nights because she couldn’t bear to report the utterly false words of the police statement that cleared Cummings of any wrongdoing.


  46. Old Goat says:

    I liked Peter Hitchen’s commentary, though…


  47. taffman says:

    Sometimes tuning in to LBC from Al Beeb at the advice of some of the posters on this site, I am finding LBC heading in the same direction as the LIBlab Al Beeb.
    This morning a chap called A. Castle doing a bit of “Race Baiting” ?
    Who are the National Black Police Officers Association ?


  48. Tabs says:

    Yesterday the only TV I watched was the NASA TV live webstream covering the buildup, launch and first orbital maneuvering tests of the Falcon 9 Dragon capsule.

    Hours and hours of people talking about optimism, pride and engineering success. The NASA administrator was saying Trump is only the 3rd sitting Presisdent to watch a live launch from the Cape and the NASA budget is the highest since JFK. He said on Trump’s first day in office Trump assigned all the correct people to the Space Council and gave it the budget it needs to do great things and make America reach the moon and maybe Mars. Nasa hinted but held back saying Obama destroyed the US space industry.

    Compare that to the BBC. Always negative and depressing. They don’t care about science or engineering unless its about the latest iPhone. While NASA wants to inspire a generation of kids the BBC want to genital mutilate a generation of kids with their trans obsession.

    It makes me wonder what would the UK be like without the BBC holding us all back.


  49. StewGreen says:

    BBCnews aired Campbell again and didn’t edit out his f-word


    • cromwell says:

      I’m sure BBC put this idiot on to wind us all up.He is an imbecile and the mental health excuse is a way he may be forgiven for rudeness, ignorance, hatefullness and a desperation to do damage to the government.

      Remember he is being used as a weapon in the last desperate attempt to stop Brexit. They will try anything even using a washed up war monger.


      • Guest Who says:

        As effective weapon systems go, that is like a static ramp on the beach at Peenemunde.


    • Guest Who says:

      The tee hee kids do like their NaughtieMarr moments.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – as you know i reported this yesterday and the fact that my goldfish was shocked by it .

      Thank you for putting the footage up to evidence that this mentally challenged depressive really does have issues …


  50. Siempre Recht says:

    Happy Pentecost all!

    Is there any chance we can play a game here, as in “How long can you last listening to the Beeb, before you start screaming, ranting, becoming a Madman”? Or has this been suggested before?

    I must be the winner, as today it was only 15 seconds, before I became a screaming lunatic (I woke up the better half!).

    First, I lasted 10 seconds, as it was BBC Scotland, with a certifiable moron, who mentioned that “and these people are referred to, by tabloids like the Daily Mail, as “Remainers.”!!! Really? Unbelievable!

    Secondly, it was only 3-5 seconds on BBC RSL, with some angry, illiterate Afro-American, going on about “America be a waycist country, a WAYcist country.”

    I then switched to Classic FM.

    Has anyone lasted for a shorter duration?

    PS – When the other half heard me, I had to explain, that I only wanted a church service, or pleasant music on a Sunday morning.


    • Fedup2 says:


      Happy Pentecost to you too . My church has adapted to the youtube mass . But it seems the gods of motoring take precedents over the churches and other places of worship being opened up …

      As for turning off the radio – i think youd win every time because it takes a while for the valves to warm up….

      Im guessing the MSM is working on getting ‘protests ‘ to spread to the UK where the ritual smashing of the doors of Currys and Dixons can take place .


      • JimS says:

        “As for turning off the radio – i think you’d win every time because it takes a while for the valves to warm up…. ”

        Digital TV and radio surely take longer to start up than the old valve kit. As for changing channel…

        My mum’s TV can be slow to switch off, you press the button and nothing happens, so you press it again. Two seconds later it does switch off… then it switches back on again.

        Under the ‘new normal’ this will no longer be a problem. All TV and Radio will take over the Amazon channels and be re-branded EMILY, (Enhanced Media Integrated Localised Yammering).

        The most noticeable difference with the new service is that instead of having to say, “Alexa! Do…” , Emily will say, “Do … NOW!”.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Yes on time being short – you could launch a private space rocket in the time it takes for a Free view box to fire up –
          Or miss the first half of a footy match with arsenal going in 2 – 0 down …..