443 Responses to Midweek Thread 8 April 2020

  1. Tabs says:

    I read somewhere on the BBC News website that the 881 extra deaths was actually ~140 in last 24 hours. The others were previously were uncounted deaths between 1st April and 7th April.

    But on the BBC News channel they are quoting “881 extra in 24 hours”.

    I know the BBC is overstaffed but I would expect the news channel staff to agree with the news website staff.

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    • StewGreen says:

      ITV local news : a lot of NHS cultism
      then news of whole special evening on ITV

      BBC 6:30pm news also ended with an item “coming tonight”
      ..em that is constructing news
      rather than waiting and reporting news that has actually happened.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        I don’t do telly. Actually the Snuffy household can’t do telly since the whole shebang went digital.

        Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.

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    • StewGreen says:

      The daily death tally has always been “hospital deaths reported today”
      It’s just we assumed that deaths were being reported on the day they happened.

      On Wednesday R4 More Or Less explained that actually not every death is reported on the day it happened.
      eg when they wait days to find a relative to tell first
      The prog made out only a few deaths have reporting delayed. Now this says the vast majority are.

      To me this doesn’t matter, cos all we are doing is trend spotting.
      It is entirely possible that actually on Wednesday 1,100 people died but their reporting will end up in Saturday’s figures etc.

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      • StewGreen says:

        One day say next Wednesday the actual number of deaths will be just 500.
        But most of us won’t immediately know cos the reported figure will be something like 1,000 cos older deaths will still be being added to the tally.

        Then the dailies tallies will keep coming down.
        but the situation on the ground will still be much quieter than reported cos of the lag.

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  2. Sluff says:

    I have seen a possible future.
    In the aftermath of coronavirus there is a herd mentality to ‘reward our key workers’ .
    With tens of billions already spent it is an easy decision to pay off the NHS with a few more billion. It all goes on salaries.
    Then other key workers say ‘we want some of that’. Care workers, binmen, shop workers all ‘deserve’ more, and how can we refuse?
    This really happened. In 1973, 74. The three day week was the result of the miners strike for a 25% pay rise. Others joined the bandwagon.
    Inflation reached 27%, the savings of the thrifty were made worthless, and we went cap in hand to the IMF for a bailout. High inflation of course does wonders for the government debt, which is currently running totally out of control.

    I hope the snowflakes are careful what they wish for, and that the government will grow a pair in the face of what could be a lot of unthinking populist hostility.
    I’m not over-confident though.

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  3. Dystopian says:

    New thread started….

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  4. Thoughtful says:

    Jihad watch reports a desperate BBC attempt to claim without a shred of evidence that Henry II considered not only converting to Islam, but forcing the entire country to convert as well!

    This at the time the crusades were being fought!

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2020/04/bbc-claims-without-evidence-that-english-king-henry-ii-considered-converting-to-islam

    All of this idiocy is based on a threat Henry issued to the Pope that he would rather convert to Islam than see Thomas a Beckett as arch Bishop of Canterbury.

    It’s a little like saying someone seriously considered blinding themselves when they said they’d rather poke their own eyes out.

    https://www.historyextra.com/period/medieval/king-henry-ii-muslim-monarch-england-convert-islam/

    Why do they feel the need to constatly promote Islam as the superior religion, other than the fact their university funded by Saudi Arabia and other hard line Islamist countries pay them to do so?

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