501 Responses to Long Weekend Thread 27 March 2020

  1. Scroblene says:

    You saw it here first (I think), that the BBC are a load of ‘self-sexualators’.

    Of course this blasted virus hits all and sundry, just don’t try and make up a non-story, and don’t hang around in empty town centres, gawping at a camera! Use a laptop, and stay at home, preferably with no electricity so we can all get some peace!

    And, finally (about time – Ed), why does the blasted BBC still start its news bulletins showing a crowd of kayakers, dog-walkers etc., all in a touchy-feely, gormless group, when they’re supposed to be ‘self-distancing’ by two yards, eight inches!

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  2. Doobster78 says:

    Just another “untouchable” lefty who can say what the f* *k they like !!!!! #bekind

    To say ccbgb is a understatement !!!

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    • Doobster78 says:

      Oh dear ….still a half arsed apology tho !!!

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  3. JimS says:

    How come we have to keep two metres apart but the lower standard EU member France opts for one metre?
    bandeau_distances_sociales.png

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Jim, takes me back to Infant and Primary School days. Remember having to stand in line, facing front, distance yourself at arms length to a classmate? Then there was ‘Music and Movement’ which your illustration appears to suit (but with a lack of music) …. BBC on the radio … BBC Schools Radio …. back when the BBC was useful and unbiased.

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  4. Darcy3 says:

    After Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn posted a message wishing Boris a speedy recovery, supporters responded with a series of sickening posts – many wishing death on the PM.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11269863/coronavirus-corbyn-supporters-troll-boris-johnson/

    One Corbyn supporter wrote: “I hope he dies slowly.”

    Another added: “You can laugh Jezza we won’t tell him, promise.”

    Replying to the Labour leader on Twitter, another follower said: “Our thoughts and prayers go to the virus at this difficult time.”

    Another fan wrote: “No one cares about Boris stay safe king”.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Darcy
      I’ve been busily reporting the ‘hate’ posts to twitter during the day – and I’m sure the forces of law and order will investigate and prosecute …..

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  5. StewGreen says:

    From what I gather local businesses like market stalls, gardeners & cleaners etc. are keen to give up work and take the 80%
    .. and then use their time to renovate a property, develop their own crops, renovate their equipment , get the accounts done etc.
    So they’ll end up being paid 180% for their time.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      We all knew that coughing up to pay the wages of the self employed would be open to abuse.

      Perhaps they should agree to pay the wages on condition this free time will be used to be nationally conscripted into working with the essential services or the military.

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      • davylars says:

        Err no..
        I am a self employed sole trader running a small business.
        I don’t get sick pay.
        I don’t get holiday pay.
        I don’t get Bereavement leave.
        I never got paternity leave.
        I have had to provide for my own pension.
        I pay for my own national insurance stamp.
        I have to keep records of all my businesses transactions and pay taxes like everyone else.

        All of this was my own lifestyle choice so I accept this.

        However. Having to cease trading And seeing all the years of hard work in building up a small business to provide for my family being taken away through no fault of my own.

        I think you are being a bit harsh..

        Don’t we deserve some help.

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        • BRISSLES says:

          Sadly life aint fair, and at times we all feel we’ve got the rough end of the stick, no matter how old we are.

          I too have worked all my life, in fact worked 2 years more than I should (41 as opposed to the required 39) to get my old age pension, but didn’t get any extra. Not having children I never claimed maternity or child benefit. Always at the back of the queue for holidays in preference to those with kids, and having to cover workload when kids were sick. I didn’t get widows bereavement allowance, and now the free tv licence is being snatched away, and will have to sell my home to pay for aged care.

          Still this all pales into significance now, at least I’m still here, and fingers crossed will be after all this madness is over, unlike those who have lost their lives in the past month or so.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Yeah, I can also tell of a past littered with that sort of thing, Brissles. A lot of people, like you, get no real advantages but others appear to have things fall into their laps or they make sure they are front of queue for State handouts and then try and dodge the taxes that pays for it.

            Yet I often wake up in the morning feeling blessed (esp. if I have slept well and/or had really silly, crazy, dreams) and it stays that way through the day until the head hits the pillow at night. At least we still have our minds, old thing, and can use them unlike that hospital doctor or GP on BBC R4 (was it yesterday?) who complained about the lack of ‘guidance’ from Government on when to use PPE equipment!

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        • StewGreen says:

          @davylars I didn’t mean you
          I meant some of the people I had run into

          sorry I left out the words *some*

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  6. Oldspeaker says:

    Heard online interview regarding covid outbreak in China. Host was explaining that the Chinese didn’t believe the virus was as severe as reported. Logic dictated that for their government to admit something was wrong it must actually be far worse. Consequently they took greater precaution than recommended hence faster recovery, possible?

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  7. Doobster78 says:

    No blokes stranded then BBC ??? Silly me , of course using pictures of women will carry more “emotional” weight to you’re tweet !!!! Equality hey !!! #whenitsuits

    And the Government not doing enough !!!!!! Turn it in ffs !!! Think they’ve got a lot on at the moment

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    • davylars says:

      I heard on BBC news this morning that some young women were whining on about being stranded somewhere in Asia
      Apparently they left the UK on March 10th.

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    • Foscari says:

      Doobster-BBC TV is all but a women’s media outlet when it
      comes to news and political presentation. 80% of the
      news presenters and politcal programme presenters are now
      women.

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      • Square-Eyed says:

        The use of female clergy in the liberal church denominations is resulting in their congregation numbers gradually shrinking. Perhaps a surfeit of ladies at the BBC may have a similar effect. Let us sincerely hope so.

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  8. Celtic_Mist says:

    3 Jan 2020

    How China enlisted the help of the BBC to (unwittingly) suppress information about the outbreak of the ‘China’ virus –

    “There has been speculation on social media about a possible connection to the highly contagious disease.
    Wuhan police said eight people had been punished for “publishing or forwarding false information on the internet without verification”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-50984025

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  9. Celtic_Mist says:

    Why does the BBC and the MSM instinctively believe the Chinese numbers?

    Total cases : China – 81,340, USA – 96,968

    The BBC is now screaming that the US is the epicentre

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  10. BRISSLES says:

    Ok, before our illustrious journalists start criticising the government for failing to churn out testing kits for essential workers, then perhaps they’d like to turn their attention to this……..

    ” 03/03/2020 · Four illegal immigrants found in lorry in Bedfordshire tested for coronavirus “

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  11. Celtic_Mist says:

    How will the BBC twist the story to bring the blame back to Trump?

    “Mr Cuomo said a better way forward might be a “get-back-to-work strategy” in tandem with a public health strategy

    “The Republican president’s get-back-to-work goal found unexpected support on Thursday from a prominent Democrat.

    Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York, the current coronavirus epicentre in the US, said statewide quarantine orders may not have been the best approach to coronavirus.”

    “Young people then quarantined with older people was probably not the best public health strategy,” he told a news conference, “because the younger people could have been exposing the older people to an infection.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52056586

    PS This sort of information is never reported at 10 pm

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  12. Dover Sentry says:

    How many in the UK have died of Seasonal Flu? It can often be over 20,000. No figures yet.

    How many Corona deaths linked with other conditions such as Seasonal Flu?

    Did they die with or from Corona/Covid 19?

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  13. lordelpus says:

    Hope all the contributors to this site are keeping well,and are not going “stir crazy”.Not sure if the new virtue signalling virus of standing outside and applauding has claimed any victims on this site!We all know what a great job the NHS staff are doing,but this stunt made me cringe.Might be persuaded to change my mind if any of the MSM promise to get me on camera next time.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      lordelpus, Martin Wroe described it as a ‘Religious Event’ on ThoughtftDay this a.m..

      Says it all.

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  14. taffman says:

    “Brexit: EU-UK meeting to go ahead via video link”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52067559

    What’s the odds that Al Beeb and the LimpDems will use the present pandemic to try and prevent Brexit succeeding ?

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      taffman- There seems to be no logical connection between an epidemic and Brexit, and yet I’ve had a sneaky feeling the Remainers are somehow going to use this as a last chance to reverse the ship when, as far as I’m concerned, we have left and it’s all done and dusted. Why do I have this sneaky feeling? Makes no sense?

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    • theisland says:

      Here is something that must not be forgotten and needs attention.

      Read

      Click to access net_worth_-_fisheries.pdf

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      • richard D says:

        I have said so many times…… the fishing rights clearly, according to International Law, belong to the UK. End of story.

        The UK will have the right to decide who, when, where, and at what cost to applicants, fishing will be allowed in UK waters. End of next story.

        When we’re talking about Trade Agreements, then yes, we can discuss what tariffs may or may not be applied to fish exports or imports – and that can be balanced against other trading tariffs, or the lack of them. But that is for the fish, not the fishing rights.

        Why is this so difficult to understand ?

        Or is the EU demanding that, as a price to be paid for membership of, or association with, the EU, countries like Denmark, Germany, Holland and Norway will freely donate their oil and gas reserves to the UK ? Thought not.

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    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      1/10 taffman or there or thereabouts 😉

      🤧 Gesundheit!

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  15. taffman says:

    Bias ? , what bias ?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52056914
    Would Boris have got the same treatment with her?

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  16. Dazed and Confused says:

    I wonder if the BBC will acknowledge this now, after the police and CPS agree with his version of events. Or is mentioning Tommy Robinson worse than the coronavirus.

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    • Oaknash says:

      Got into an fairly violent argument with an indoctrinated lefty when visiting the office last week when someone mentioned the “coughing” incident and I pointed out that it was T R who helped out the old couple.

      All their argument consisted of was he was a racist and a bigot etc etc. We discontinued the discussion as neither of us would back down and its tempo was going past what is acceptable and we are both grown ups, but what it did do is make me realise who the real bigots are. It is like having a discussion with someone who puts his fingers in his ears and just shouts.
      As we know Tommies courageous conduct counts for nothing – he really is in lots of ways the best of British..

      I think we may be having lots of similair unpleasant discussions if this subject is raised in front of me again.

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      • theisland says:

        Oak
        Well done for standing up for truth and justice.

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        • Oaknash says:

          Thanks island – I dont enjoy these sort of confrontations much but the media brainwashing that these people seem to absorb sometimes takes my breath away.
          They are generally decent people, but seem to have abandoned all judgement and reason when you challenge them on their left wing dogma particularly anything to do with TR and the “Orange Man” who as we all here know is very, very bad indeed.

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      • Eddy Booth says:

        (Unsurprisingly) it’s the first I’m hearing about this story 🤔

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      • StewGreen says:

        Oaknash , yes we been there even with normally good people.
        Same as we get the pious on Covid19
        we get the pious on TR “he is evil they chant” , and then they stop listening, adamant that they are not going to listen to his Oxford Union speech.
        … one guy just got really nasty , treating us in the same prejudiced nasty way, that a racist would treat a random black person.

        But It wouldn’t surprise me if Stuch bery leans on the police and they come back and charge TR.

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        • Oaknash says:

          Stew – the fact that the Panorama and Sweeney went out of their way to set TR up should be enough evidence of just how disgusting the BBC led MSM media in this country are but in truth it is not.

          In effect these people have been brainwashed and I dont even know whether I would want them on “our” side as they seem to lack any sense of discernment.

          It was the same with the Holocaust, too many “decent” people buying into the “all Jews are evil” argument as it was easier to go with the crowd than question your own judgement – even in the face of compelling evidence.

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    • StewGreen says:

      KT Hopkins tweeted

      Not ONE UK media outlet has given credit to #Tommy for risking his own safety to defend an elderly lady being coughed & spat at by youths

      Remember the pile-on after #centreparcs? Where are you all now?

      Utter Cowards. All of you

      …and this is the standard hatey tweet from the #BeKind libmob

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  17. Dystopian says:

    BBC LIARS!

    Special news programme at midnight “Breaking news”
    Presenter states “In the last hour it has been confirmed that the Prime Minister, Boris Johnson has tested positive for Coronavirus…”

    What? Breaking news? I knew that this afternoon!

    BBC LIARS and not fit for purpose.

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    • Oaknash says:

      Dys – this is now about as much of a scoop as me “breaking” wind.

      Talk about good value for money!

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  18. ScottishCalvin says:

    Another week, another doodle and thoughts on the Covid

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  19. fakenewswatcher says:

    Switched on R4 at 6.20 to hear someone British ,who had been to Mecca, praising Islam.
    Seems he has been part of a group accompanying Clare Balding on a walk.
    Then someone from the Bahai faith.
    Wonder if they had a Christian, whom I missed?
    And there’s a philosopher who has no religion.
    If they did have a Christian, would have been so out of fashion?
    I think there is a lady who is a Methodist. That’s about as far as she’ll go.
    I respect them all, but I have my own conviction. It involves the person of Jesus. For some, a fairy in the sky.
    It appears the group is lost, cos there are so many paths.
    The Muslim is holding forth again.
    The whole lot illustrate the Tower of Babel.
    It was the Herefordshire Interfaith Group, it seems.

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  20. Darcy3 says:

    Is it just me or is everyday now like the real Sundays I remember from childhood. little traffic and deserted town centres and everything closed except newsagents ?

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    • Non Snowflake says:

      Long may it continue. And if that sounds heartless then it isn’t meant to be, because as we all know thousands upon thousands die every year due to the common cold, so the number of deaths occuring isn’t really anything out of the ordinary. What *is* out of the ordinary is the scaremongering and hysterical over-reaction.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Darcy3, yes its all so reminiscent of those halcyon (?) days. No planes in the sky, no rumble of traffic from the nearby A1, and only the sound of the birds in the trees. AND BEST OF ALL, no bugger using the front of my house to park their sodding cars when visiting someone up the bloody street !!!

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  21. Dazed and Confused says:

    Very sad to report that one week into self-isolation and it’s upsetting to see my wife standing at the window gazing aimlessly into space,tears running down her cheeks.
    It breaks my heart to see her like this. I have even considered letting her in.

    But rules are rules

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Dazed – 🤪 I think you need to find your coat ….

      It sounds like dickie Horton – the editor of the medical mafias bible – The Lancet – is trying to get top of the list for the new
      ‘Told you so’ industry .

      After his guest appearance on Question Time this week (didn’t see ) he is doing his ‘told You so ‘ act in print .

      In my view there is a time and place for’ told you so ‘ but I think this is not it . Some mistakes will be buried and some will come out . But ‘told you so ‘ doesn’t help much now does it ?

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    • Darcy3 says:

      And Greta Garbo at the window ???

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  22. Darcy3 says:

    Watching the TR video of the thieving violent drug dealing immigrants in Hitchin, when challenged after they attacked an old lady all they do is moronically repeat “you is racist” over and over as if the have tourettes. Seen this over and over from black criminals, it is about time this term “racist” is classified as a hate crime.

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    • The Mouse says:

      If everyone gets called racist the word becomes meaningless, just a thought. Short changed at shop – racist. Didn’t pick their dog poop up – racist. Didn’t say thanks when held door open – racist. Words can become meaningless e.g. hate crime, phobia, etc.

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  23. Darcy3 says:

    And “nazi”

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  24. The Mouse says:

    Listened to whatever on R4 this morning. Something about how wonderful Sweden was with so few Coronavirus cases and how so much of Swedish society/business is open. The presenter did admit that more people live on their own in Sweden than anywhere else in the world (a huge advantage when trying to keep transmission down). They didn’t comment that the crowded densely populated main islands of UK (very bad with 11 deaths per million) was so much worse than Sweden (10 deaths per million). Don’t give the listener any opportunity to join other dots when trying to paint a picture. Motive, agenda ?

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    • Rufus McDufus says:

      I read somewhere (reputable) a week or two ago that Sweden and Denmark have fewer critical care beds per capita than the UK.

      Also weird how Sweden’s strategy of aiming for herd immunity through infection of healthy people is a great idea, but when our government merely hinted the same idea (after advice from health advisors) it was utterly ridiculous and the equivalent of genocide.

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  25. Halifax says:

    I see the headline picture on the BBC website is about testing for “Key Workers” it’s of course a picture of a Muslim women wearing a hijab. May I suggest that this is a front to the 95% of Key Workers that ain’t Muslim women [email protected]
    Agenda agenda agenda even in these times.

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC choices very much reflect what the bbc wishes known as opposed to what the facts are.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      H, are you sure they are not surgeons or theatre nurses ‘in cover-up’?

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    • Doobster78 says:

      There’s more Halifax. What a complete joke , woke outfit they are !!!!! It’s just sickening their love for the minorities and disregard for the majority. National broadcaster my arse !!!!!!

      No other pictures available hey ??

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Another example. Their website is carrying an article on the situation in Russia. Most of the problem there is centred on Moscow. Naturally the BBC has used a picture of a Muslim woman in a headscarf as representative of the ‘typical’ Muscovite (third picture). Now, it so happens that the city does have a large Muslim population, but they are well integrated and it is in sharp contrast to, say, London, Brussels or Paris. I stayed for a couple of weeks in such a district and I do not recall seeing a single woman in a headscarf, or men in Islamic clothing, or shops with Arabic writing. Even the nearby largest mosque in the city, the Moscow Cathedral Mosque, (note the inclusive name) blends in seamlessly with the traditional religious architecture.
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52061381

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  26. G says:

    I’m afraid my resistance to ‘Our Beauty’ and her accelerating drive to exercise her relentless ‘Critical Theory’ on me failed this morning. The item before 0800 of the bin men’s Chinese virus lament did it for me. Off button. Double quick.
    I wish, wish, wish (fingers and all crossed) that someone would get into the BBC HQ, maybe masquerading as one of their trusted friends, like OFCOM, and do a TR/Sweeney type exposure (naturally that’s TR aka, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon).
    Wouldn’t that be fun?

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  27. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Maybe Covid is Cutting a Path through the Corridors of Power?

    Yes, the virus may mean some Beeboids are no longer fit enough to do TOADY. Dominic McConnell has stepped up to fill the gap this morning. Either that or Mishal, Justin and Nick have all popped out together for a pre-Easter hols meal in Copenhagen or Stockholm.

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  28. Deborah says:

    Richard Horton leading on the 8am Radio 4 news complaining that the government hadn’t prepared enough for the virus. But I found this tweet from January. Hat tip to whoever it was who previously highlighted it after Question Time a couple of days ago. But why did the BBC lead with his complaints against the government today?

    richard horton
    @richardhorton1
    ·
    Jan 24
    A call for caution please. Media are escalating anxiety by talking of a “killer virus” + “growing fears”. In truth, from what we currently know, 2019-nCoV has moderate transmissibility and relatively low pathogenicity. There is no reason to foster panic with exaggerated language.

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    • scribblingscribe says:

      Indeed and Horton not only published in his Lancet magazine, Andrew Wakefield’s nonsense about MMR, but he did all he could to defend Wakefield.

      Guido had some fun at Horton’s expense, detailing his views on the virus right up until the start of March.

      Only the BBC would allow a lefty nutter to run down the government.

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    • JimS says:

      Meanwhile, four days before, “the date 20 January 2020 is certain to feature prominently. It was on that day that a 35-year-old man in Washington state, recently returned from visiting family in Wuhan in China,..”

      On which basis the BBC’s agenda setters at The Guardian write, “The missing six weeks: how Trump failed the biggest test of his life”.

      Perhaps President Trump was reading Richard Horton’s assuring tweet?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Either that, Jim, or the President failed to turn up at the airport to greet that man returning from China and ask him to have a medical.

        Except had he done exactly that, checked on the man’s health, the Democrats, the BBC and the rest of the LeftyLibby MSM, would all be screaming that President Trump is a racist and putting up walls and erecting barriers and is a liar and is putting up walls and is a misogynist and is …

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    • Beltane says:

      Horton’s editorship of the Lancet and his frequent use of the magazine to air his extremist political views is not universally admired throughout the medical profession – and neither was his backing for Wakefield in the MMR scandal, together with his vastly delayed distancing.
      With all this baggage together with his clear admiration and promotion of Corbyn, the question to ask is why the BBC think him suitable as a source of unbiased scientific information?
      Perhaps another BBC promoted and politically biased sounding board, Prof. Ashton, could explain.

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      • Celtic_Mist says:

        Beltane,

        QT is always a setup and the BBC new fine well about his tweet on the 24 Jan but didn’t give a ‘heads up’ for him to be called out on it

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  29. Celtic_Mist says:

    Nigel’s message is clear on the need for testing
    The BBC article, for whatever reason, just muddies the water

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52072568

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    • StewGreen says:

      The antibody test is still be tested
      There is no point in rushing out an unproven test.

      Meanwhile the infection test only shows positive if you started and haven’t got over the sickness.

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  30. Halifax says:

    NOT ON THE BBC
    The EU have failed to agree a COVID financial response package. They will meet again in TWO weeks time…..meanwhile the nasty US and UK move on.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Halifax
      I think it’s a bit of a guess as to what will happen to the Franco German pact ( reich EU) after the Chinese virus / bio weapon ….

      1 more ‘ unity ‘ an EU NHS

      2 badly affected countries say – what did you do for us ? What use are you ,?

      Being a born cynic – the political class will be bought off and the ordinary people who want change ( which the lefties call ‘populists ‘)
      will be stopped from exiting using a similar model which was deployed against the UK ….

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    • G says:

      Halifax,
      Recall the horror a couple of weeks ago that Boris refused to hold a Cobra late in the week in preference for a relevant one the first Monday following.
      What is the reaction of the Euro MSM and the Euro Sheeple?

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  31. Darcy3 says:

    As I have said before on here, the police response to those travelling to remote spots to execise, as I do every summer anyway, is an abuse of power which serves no purpose, and there is nothing in the new law that specifies distance to travel.

    I enjoy walks in the remote country with the wife, every summer spring for years now, but this week while driving in the countryside was absolutely amazed at the amount of people who have suddenly decided that, now they are encouraged to stay indoors, suddenly decide they want to visit the countryside, not seen this in years, people no longer sitting with their playstations or bingeing on boxsets,

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  32. Deborah says:

    Amazingly not the BBC: yesterday morning, having not stood out in the freezing cold at 8pm, I didn’t need to hear on Classic FM that Victoria Beckham and Jamie Oliver had done so. I don’t know where either are living but could guess they are somewhere where no neighbour would hear them applauding. Virtue signalling taken up by the press? Classic FM could have, as the BBC did, shown the Prime Minister – already poorly – giving his thanks.

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  33. Sluff says:

    A nice vignette about the difference between socialism and the market economy.
    In the middle of the coronavirus those with imagination are finding ways to do things. The online choirs -and nearer to home Mrs. S’s keep fit class has gone virtual and she is exercising in our front room online with the instructor and other attendees.
    In a market economy people find ways to do things, to meet wants and needs, perceived or real.
    Now imagine Jezzaworld. Socialism. In Jezzaworld the state is the thing. So we’d all be waiting for the National Choir Collective and the National Exercise Corporation to elect members to their committees. Then there would be several meetings before the national plans were announced. Moribund inactivity.
    It would however be a very equal arrangement. No-one would get anything for weeks.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Sluff – the comrades are trying – collective 8pm clapping sessions – I’m waiting for the next one …

      … I bet somewhere in the BBC there is planning for a virusaphon night involving virtual this and virtual that after what remaining money people might have .

      They’ll pay lineker 50 k in the same way as terry Wogan took cash to present a charity show( still hard to believe )
      and they’ll all get a warm feeling . The money -of course- will go to BBC approved groups as always …

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      • JimS says:

        Children In Need, Comic Relief, Sports Relief, the ‘collective’ in action, where the ‘leaders’ get paid to take money from ‘the people’.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Sluff, quite right. The female nurse on the TOADY Prog early in the week who said “We need a training course in how to put on the PPE.”

      Training course? Training course!

      Then there was the female GP, later in the week: “I need guidelines when to use PPE.”

      The Welfare State has truly come home to roost during this Covid thing but the loft appears to have a lot of droppings in it. In fact, it is full to the ceiling with droppings.

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  34. StewGreen says:

    Covid19 – The problem is most deaths go to people with 1 or 2 pre-existing conditions
    What would be really useful is a separate death count that only lists the previously healthy.

    BY Prof Spiegelhalter’s logic for the next year there should be a lots of empty space in the NHS for the next year .
    How come ?
    Cos the the current pre-infection life expectancy of those that later die of Covid19 is an average one year
    ie most of them were expected to die of their existing diseases

    If they do catch and die of Covid19 then that means they drawing on the NHS for the next year.

    But I guess there might be also NEW patients who are long term damaged by Covid19.

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    • Non Snowflake says:

      Well, because there are fewer people venturing out (for fear of being shot by a sniper cos they’ve bought too many parsnips) it logically means:-

      1) Less patients admitted due to traffic accidents
      2) Less patients admitted due to accidents in the workplace
      3) Less patients admitted due to sporting injuries
      4) Less patients admitted due to “outside” attacks such as mugging, assault and GBH

      A lot less workload for the NHS, you might say. Which is why it was a bit weird when all the snowflakes started clapping them the other night.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Non
        I’m guessing the number of NHS staff actually dealing with emergency stuff is not the majority but others are benefitting from the various concessions being donated

        I’m not sure about the ‘ less road accidents’ . There does seem to a sub species of kidult using roads as race tracks . They obviously have great faith in the NHS when they come unstuck .

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      • Oldspeaker says:

        Clapping you say?

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    • tomo says:

      It’s vitally important to figure out how many people are actually infected and if there are any easily attributable indicators (beyond pre-existing chronic conditions) to bad outcomes. I note that some some NY front line medics are dosing themselves with fish tank cleaner and observing that there is an apparent bias wrt to blood groups in those succumbing to acute virus impacts.

      The constant parade of fashionable lefty minority groups being touted as victims on the BBC webshite is as tiresome as it is predictable. Looks like comrade Horrorbin’s office is also busy dosing the virus story with eco-tosh and apocalyptic icebergs .

         18 likes

      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Tomo,
        I don’t know about fish tank cleaner but I’ve absorbed so much sanitiser, disinfectant and soap just lately that every time I use the toilet it ends up cleaner.

           26 likes

      • Eddy Booth says:

        Wrt?

           0 likes

        • tomo says:

          I saw an interview with a senior NY ER doctor (Tucker Carlson program) just come off shift and obviously well stressed out. Beyond volunteering he’s dosing himself with chloroquin as a prophylactic he also said that certain blood groups were subjectively presenting in proportions that didn’t correlate with the normal blood group arithmetic.

          Anecdotal – but better than wahhh! I’m quarantined with my trans phobic parents.

             4 likes

        • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

          Eddy,
          WRT = With respect to.

             1 likes

    • JimS says:

      “But I guess there might be also NEW patients who are long term damaged by Covid19.”

      And the foramaldehyde, radon, dust mites, lack of exercise etc.

         4 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      darn typo “If they do catch and die of Covid19 then that means they ARE NOT drawing on the NHS for the next year.

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  35. Fedup2 says:

    Peter Hitchens tweets that it’s the second anniversary of his last appearance on Question Time – with the remark “was it something I said ?”

    I think he illustrates the GroupThink from which the BBC so comfortably suffers . Any one not complying with the‘ BBC way ‘Just has no chance – the absence of ‘diversity of thought ‘.

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  36. Up2snuff says:

    ‘The BBC Way’ – Run for Cover Even If You Are There To Serve Her Majesty

    Gus O’Donnell tells me on BBC 1pm News that he “stopped attending the House of Lords when the Coronavirus thing started”. “There isn’t room for us all to sit down anyway.”

    What a selfless devotion to the Monarch and our nation, eh?

    When the PM eventually gets around to thinning the ranks of Peers so that Lord O’Donnell can sit down, I hope Lord O’Donnell (crossbencher) is considered a prime candidate for ‘thinning’. In bringing me this news, the BBC appear to condone if not approve Gus’s behaviour.

       16 likes

    • JimS says:

      What with all the appeals to Rishi Sunak to pay people that can’t get to work I expect the HoL will be putting in a claim for 80% (at least!) of their daily attendance allowance.

         7 likes

    • tomo says:

      “stopped attending the House of Lords when the Coronavirus thing started”

      erm…. are they being paid an attendance allowance ? Seems like the sort of malarkey that some would sign up for…..

         0 likes

      • JimS says:

        Members of the Lords who are not paid a salary may claim a flat rate attendance allowance of £157 or £313 (new rate from the 1st April 2019), or £153 or £305 (old rate up to 31st March 2019), or may choose to make no claim for each sitting day they attend the House.

        House of Lords Allowances

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  37. G says:

    Respirators?
    Hopefully, this will be very well remembered of the Chinese should we see our way out of the current mess.
    https://guide.jsp.co.uk/statement/

       9 likes

  38. Up2snuff says:

    ‘The BBC Way’ – Keep Saying We Are Running Out Of Time

    Oh joy! Anita Anand will talk to the nation for one hour at 2p.m..

    If Anita was not so bad at compering the Any Answers programme I would definitely support her in having more time, preferably and extra mid-week programme for more listeners’ Answers.

    One of the problems is that she insists on taking time to give out the programme number for people to call in just after she has told someone “we have lots of callers waiting”. Another is that close to the end of the programme, after she has spent more time jabbering than anyone else, and having told us “We’ve had lots of calls on that subject, were struggling to get them all in.” she then spends more time jabbering away herself or introducing two callers to each other so they can say “Hello Fred.” “Hello Mary”.

       19 likes

    • JimS says:

      She’s pretty good at telling the people that have managed to get a few words in what they have just said, or more often, what they really meant to have said!

      As I was reminded the other day, Marine Le Pen could have been describing all these media women when she said, “Madame, I think you are more interested in your questions than my answers”. After all no-one wins awards for what other people say!

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  39. Tabs says:

    A pre recorded bit on the BBC News channel, about 13:08, showing what “British” people are doing whilst in isolation.

    The order of those shown was:
    1. Black woman interview/introduction
    2. White man running a pub quiz online
    3. Muslim man with a black man
    4. Another black man
    5. Back to the first black woman now talking to black man (#4 above)
    6. Black man exercising split screen with a black woman
    7. Close up interview with black man (see #6 above)
    8. White man Dj’ing
    9. white girl dancing
    10. I believe it was a BAME girl dancing in ambulance seat whilst driving
    11. quick clip of another white woman dancing.

    I’ve put in a complaint demanding the BBC edit this footage to remove the excessive white people!

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  40. Up2snuff says:

    Non – TWatO Watch #1 – Maybe Covid is Cutting a Path through the Corridors of Power?

    Arlene Foster or someone with a similar name but only slightly different accent (still had been to the Dame Celia Vowelstrangler School of Pronunciation* though) was reading the 1p.m. News. Have not noticed her reading the news before now, maybe due to a lack of attention to such things.

    Perhaps Newsreaders, Journalists, Presenters and Continuity Announcers at the BBC have all been sitting too close together.

    (* How I miss the good old days: Alvar Lidell, Wallace Greenslade, John Snagge, Derek McCulloch)

       13 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      260 dead in the last 24 hours. 13 of those poor souls did not have underlying health issues . Wide age range .

         9 likes

      • Eddy Booth says:

        “13 of those poor souls did not have underlying health issues”
        Unverified in most cases.

           6 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        Good news and bad news…bad news first
        Daily DEATHS 260 ..that’s another big blip up to now more than 1,000 dead ..actually 1019
        Pattern last Thu 181, Wed 40, Thu 33, Fri 56 , Sat 48, Sun 54, Mon 87, Tue 43, Wed 113 ( also a blip up)

        Tests : 2546 Friday DAILY positive ..Hey that is a **FALL**
        but then for some reason the number of tests also was less cos
        pattern…Fri 1035, Sat 665, Sun 967, Mon 1427, Tue 1452, Wed : 2129 Thu : 2921

        Tests made 6999 Confirmed rate is 36.38%.
        Oh well that is also a change as if they are learning to dismiss more people who don’t need testing
        They made a lot more tests the day before … 9,000 but so many were negatives

        ===========

        Future : theoretically when you get days with less positive tests, then 5-7 days later the daily death rate should also fall, from the previous day.

        Thursday’s positive test rate is 3 times higher than 5 days previous
        By rough maths that means in 5 days time the death rate should be 3 times higher
        If those 1035 cases resulted in 260 deaths
        then 3,000 cases makes 780 daily/deaths
        and then possible falling death rate after then.
        Remember the number positives is not ALL positives but rather a proxy
        If a day has 300 positive tests , that probably means that day there was another 3,000 cases
        …. Spurious events could throw the pattern out of kilter tho.

           7 likes

        • Up2snuff says:

          More Bad News Dept but that you will not hear on the BBC because they have TDS*: Germany with a population of 83 million approx. has half as many cases 56,000 as the USA – 112,000 – with a population of over 330 million.
          Source: Johns Hopkins University

          (* Trump Derangement Syndrome for those not in membership of The Acronym Society.)

             2 likes

        • StewGreen says:

          correction in layout
          Pattern :
          last Wed 40, Thu 33, Fri 56 , Sat 48, Sun 54, Mon 87, Tue 43, Wed 113 ( also a blip up) Thu 181,

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  41. StewGreen says:

    3pm R4 News keeps to the BBC regulation that a Trump-hater must be aired
    The audio featured a voice saying that
    “On Corona there has been a COMPLETE LACK OF LEADERSHIP from the president”

    It was Dennis Carroll, former director of @USAID’s emerging threats division.
    The internet found him on a January 25th Netfix doco

       13 likes

    • Eddy Booth says:

      They may or may not be right , but 4 years of crying wolf means no ones listening 😀

         11 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Feb 8th people pointed out

      For 15 years the United States ran a research program called PREDICT to identify & stop pandemics. It was shut down in October.
      The next great pandemic will come from a virus that leaps from animals to humans. This is a mistake 1/👇

      @nytimes on Oct 25, 2019
      The federal government is quietly shutting down a surveillance program for dangerous animal viruses that someday may infect humans, in a move that worries many public health experts https://nyti.ms/2ML666T

      PREDICT was inspired by the 2005 H5N1 bird flu scare & found more than a thousand new viruses 🦠
      The administrations of George W. Bush & Barack Obama provided robust funding for PREDICT, but things changed in 2017, according to Dennis Carroll, who helped design the program.

      But on Feb 26th Carroll wasn’t saying the PREDICT programme would have stopped the virus, so Trump could have saved the world
      … rather he was saying : sometimes viruses go wild and that is what had happened

      Dennis Carroll
      .. credited China’s “extraordinary control measures” with delaying the spread of the virus, but he said avoiding a pandemic is “very unlikely.”

      “The dramatic uptick of cases in South Korea, Iran and Italy are reflective of a self-sustaining spreading of the virus and a clear message that the horse is out of the barn,”

      The article continues by quoting other *UN* officials saying that one should be prepared to care for lots of patients , but not declare a pandemic too early cos that causes harmful panic.
      That seems to be the advice Trump followed.
      https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/02/25/coronavirus-pandemic-can-outbreak-still-be-stopped/4865934002/

         6 likes

      • Eddy Booth says:

        ‘ “Dennis Carroll
        .. credited China’s “extraordinary control measures” ‘

        Otherwise known as covering up the problem, Chernobyl style and disgustingly allowing Wuhan’s infected leather workers to return to northern Italy after thier Chinese new year holidays.

           3 likes

  42. john in cheshire says:

    Here’s a video to while away 17 minutes of lockdown time.

    It provides an interesting insight into Bill Gates of Microsoft fame. He of worldwide vaccination programmes:

       3 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      John – I lost the will to live after 5 minutes . I take it your video was paid for by the People’s Republic of China to muddy the waters of blame ?

      I do love those conspiracy theories which suggest individuals destroyed lives and economies across the planet to make a few billion by betting on crashing stock markets ….

      …. I’ve got a generally poor view of certain bits of human kind but would not take that one – I supposed the virus will be followed by a complementary nuclear attack just to tick the conspiracy rubbish .

         2 likes

    • Deborah says:

      I was with this video about Bill Gates until the narrator was linking him about 12 generations back to the Rockefeller’s and then 23 generations back with the queen.

      I too have a similar link with the Rockefeller’s but I can be sure they will have never heard of me and nor do I have any connection to their wealth.

      What started as an interesting conspiracy theory with possibly a grain of truth, soon outed itself.

         4 likes

    • Piku says:

      Great stuff John. Another crazy conspiracy theory. I’m confused though. I thought it was the chemtrails.

         2 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        We must be due a Rothschild did it conspiracy nonsense anytime soon linking the virus to `UFOs JFK and The NRA as well as the acronym society ( TAS)

        It only the chicken had been chlorinated …

        And maybe it wasn’t billy gates but that Steve Jobs – who is not really dead of course but got out of the bunker before the Russians arrived and now lives in Argie land with Speer and Goebells

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  43. Eddy Booth says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-52077395
    Halfway down
    Pathetic Indian cop wearing a coronavirus hat… the eager British police who go full transvestite etc for any reason must be stamping their high heels that didn’t think of it first..

       13 likes

  44. Sluff says:

    Talking to an elderly friend who has no idea about this website.
    This morning, quite unsolicited he said that he had been watching Boris’s daily news conference.
    But he then commented that he had noticed when he then watched the BBC news straight afterwards, the reporting was so slanted that it was as if he had been watching a quite different news conference !!!!!!!!
    Always good to see the bias of the BBC becoming apparent to more and more people.

       41 likes

  45. Guest Who says:

    Reckon Rog Harrabilis would be conflicted?

       9 likes

    • Eddy Booth says:

      A CHARITY ? for fruit pickers ?? Some weird definition..

      Also we could let market force just work, ie wages rise in that sector, and then people might want to work there, and ban agencies and gang masters taking a huge cut.

         9 likes

  46. Celtic_Mist says:

    The slightly leftist FT writes –

    “But yeah, Donald Trump’s idea about everyone getting back to work by Easter might not have that much scientific basis to it. Which is weird, because he told the White House briefing room, on his reason for proposing that festive date –

    “I just thought it was a beautiful time, a beautiful timeline, it’s a great day”

    BTW, the BBC would be fully aware of this and as we all have noticed it has one way or another tried to rubbish Trump.
    as in here –
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52012049

    https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2020/03/26/1585245384000/Let-s-flatten-the-coronavirus-confusion-curve/

       12 likes

  47. Halifax says:

    Dear BBC
    White men work for the NHS.

       20 likes

  48. Guest Who says:

    Lurch and Katty feeling another’s pain. Plus, narrative.

    Essential.

       4 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      That lady Sam Granville must be very very sick
      … practically at deaths door … NOT
      In the last 2 hours she has left a trail on Twitter
      She has clicked like on 7 tweets and retweeted Katty once.

      No news is GOOD news
      Why ??
      if a test petri dish quickly grows that’s they tell you POSITIVE
      BUT if it doesn’t grow
      .. they want to double check
      so they keep waiting for it to grow
      only when they are sure it won’t grow do they tell you it’s a NEGATIVE

         8 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      The subtweet there mentions a WSJ journaist who was tested on March 17th

      Well how sick is Peggynoonannyc today ?
      So sick that she has posted 3 tweets in the last few hours.
      (same logic applies ..her petri dish sample probably didn’t grow.. ultimately showing she probably didn’t have Covid )

      The guy tweeting is “Chief White House Correspondent for The New York Times and MSNBC analyst.”


         5 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Tru storees from meedyah folk is so cred.

           4 likes

        • StewGreen says:

          That is why I get a half million dollar salary
          .. and they get zero.
          … Oh hang on it’s the other way round isn’t it ?
          i’m the one that works for nothing.

             1 likes

  49. davylars says:

    BBC news tonight.
    BBC castigates Russia’s TV broadcaster for using Coronavirus for entertainment..

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       3 likes

    • Wink1 says:

      I noticed that they also emphasised that you couldn’t really believe the actual figures of infections stated by Russia. This when they broadcast ludicrously low infection figures given by China on a daily basis with no comment at all!

         5 likes

  50. Guest Who says:

    Must. Resist. Making. Any. Regal. Comment.

       2 likes