Midweek Thread 18 March 2020

How will those living in self isolation because of the Chinese Virus view the Far Left Biased BBC after a few days of enforced listening and watching ? I’m referring to those not regularly exposed to the monster and suffering it for long periods . I think we ll be getting more recruits .

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434 Responses to Midweek Thread 18 March 2020

  1. taffman says:

    “Coronavirus: Morrisons delivery demand ‘to create 3,500 new jobs'”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-51930987
    At last, a positive report from Al Beeb!
    The broadcaster needs to “know which side of one’s bread is buttered”. This great nation has survived worse but it needs a patriotic broadcaster to boost its moral , not undermine its moral fabric .Boris needs to do something about it

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    • StewGreen says:

      backlinks to previous thread
      page 3 just started on Tuesday 3pm
      page 2 started 4:30pm Monday

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    • JimS says:

      If ‘everyone’ gets sent home who will be left to do all the stuff that needs doing to support those at home?

      Oh, I know! More immigrants! They never get sick, never get old and will work for peanuts or an over-paid BBC presenter.

      If ‘everyone’ gets their groceries delivered won’t that mean lots and lots of ‘one-trip’ plastic bags? What does Roger/Greta think about that?

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  2. Fedup2 says:

    Yes you Taffman . I guess it’s ‘nights’ for you .

    The BBC doesn’t seem to be doing it’s ‘ all in it together ‘ routine when it comes to frightening people with mixed And negative messages .

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    • taffman says:

      Fedup2
      Yes nights again , I am turning into a b…dy owl.
      A quiet night I hope ?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Yes taff – long long ago a spent a lot of time doing the night shift – and sleepless working ones – my personal record was 72 hours straight … after that I found that everything stopped working ….

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    • Oaknash says:

      Taffy/FE2
      I was listening to R4 news the other day and the “Worlds favourite broadcaster” seemed to lead with panic buying stories.

      So much of the problem appears to be is due to hyperbole and exaggeration – Part of me wonders whether the BBC is actually enjoying this “man made “crisis” and in a sense wants to keep it going to raise its profile.

      Wimmins hour yesterday had the virtuous Jane Garvey going on about visiting the food bank with stuff. Lets hope Jenny Murray doesnt get wind of this, cos the bag of food items might not make it.

      Still looking on the bright side at least with any luck there may well be a lot less skinny soya lattes to go round. This could mean the end of the world!!!1

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      • cromwell says:

        I dont watch or listen to ‘news’ now. I watch Boris broadcasts at 5pm then turn over to anything but news or propaganda and I feel much better for it. There is no other news they can broadcast so they just keep regurgitating the same old scare stories to keep their journalists in jobs.

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      • Dystopian says:

        But who will serve my sandwiches in Pret?

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Re School closing the BBC is campaigning hard against Boris
    They have a new HYS
    Coronavirus: Many schools ‘will have to shut in days’

    And again in the top comments BBCnews gets a second kicking
    screenshots

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    • Dave S says:

      Not exactly correct. One of my daughters in law is a teacher. The teachers are falling sick or self isolating for various reasons. No teachers no school. She expects her school to close because of this. Facts not campaigning.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        DaveS, what we do not know from the BBC article is whether those teachers are falling sick to the common cold, influenza, Covid-19 or anything else for that matter.

        A thoughtful, careful, honest BBC journalist would have asked some penetrating questions to get at the truth.

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    • Deborah says:

      The Daily Mail as bad as BBC. Boris says he is not closing schools, they screech that he should; he says he might and they screech who is going took after their darlings.

      Saw the BBC give an example of a man who had lost his wife and has an asthmatic daughter. He doesn’t want her to go to school. I knew he was an older Dad (55 I think)
      because I had already read about him. So the BBC just nicks examples from other news sources.

      I do wonder about the BBC’s enormous news room. Having everyone sharing a large office doesn’t seem such a good idea now. I also notice just as many standing around chatting behind the newsreader as ever, so even with such a lot happening, they don’t seem any more busy.

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  4. taffman says:

    \\”Trusted, accurate information is vital in a public health emergency and the BBC has a key role to play. //
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51931050
    Someone please tell me they are joking ?

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    • Nibor says:

      I actually listened to Any Questions last week as their was no moronic BBC audience spoiling it .
      No whoops and hollering , hisses and boos , clapping and the usual rubbish , just the pannelists giving their views .

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  5. taffman says:

    \\They worked together to source chemicals and buy screws and nails to use as “anti-personnel shrapnel” in experimental improvised bombs, the court was told.//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-51926162
    To echo many of my countrymen ………..”we are too soft”.
    How did these murders get into this country ?

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    • Kaiser says:

      and why are his “unwitting” family members and friends not in court with him

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  6. taffman says:

    \\Police and immigration officials would be able to place people in “appropriate isolation facilities” under plans.//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51938879
    Snowflakes and ‘umanrights’ will be up in arms .

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  7. Guest Who says:

    #CCBGB

    As to how the matter of ‘questions’ will be handled, it is unlikely even more bbc control out of sight will alter the filtering process.

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  8. digg says:

    Thanks to the epidemic the BBC have spared us the Climate armageddon stuff for a while, however I did see this about a lady who “knows” that the World is to fall apart due to climate change so she grow carrots…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-51857722

    The lady gets all of her faith in the imminent collapse of mankind from a “professor” Jim Bendall who seems to be making a following (and maybe a living) with his personal opinions presented as unarguable facts.

    It all smacks of a repeat of Wako and David Koresh to me…

    Lets see…

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    • Guest Who says:

      More plastic in the photos than Jane Fonda’s jawline.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      digg, I looked at that article with amazement.

      The lady collects her two children from school every day before working in the garden. I assume she does that collecting on foot. If not she is creating global warming, climate change and is destroying the planet sooner than she claims. Then, every six weeks she takes her children on a 450 mile round trip to Wales to visit an organic farm in South Wales!

      Do they travel by bicycle? If not she is creating global warming, climate change and is destroying the planet sooner than she claims. 3600 miles of completely unnecessary travel every year.

      Completely and utterly brainless and bonkers.

      Both the woman and the BBC journalist, Jack Hunter.

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  9. Scroblene says:

    As is to be expected, the MSM are full of themselves, as are the BBC.

    Here’s the start of a list of people I don’t give a toss about…

    Sparkelle and boy Harry.
    Naga
    £20m foobollers
    Twonks on ‘holiday’ and ignoring advice to stay in.

    C’mon BBC, try and act like the tax-funded important service you’re paid to be, not some second-rate clown act…

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  10. Guest Who says:

    BBC ‘News’ on Facebook.

    China has reacted angrily after US President Donald Trump referred to the coronavirus as “Chinese”.

    ***
    #CCBGB big time.

    Don’t know how Don manages to get the bbc to make utter TDS arses of themselves EVERY TIME.

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  11. Deborah says:

    Last night saw the startled Mayor being interviewed on 10pm BBC news. He said he wants to run a weekend service. I had hoped that a quieter underground meant people could stand further apart and reduce the spread. He wasn’t asked why he was cutting the service and concentrating passengers.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Deborah, you are thinking.

      The Mayor and the BBC are not thinking. When will they start to catch up?

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    • Jeff says:

      Absolutely, Deborah!
      I saw the interview and thought exactly the same thing…so you must be right!
      Usually on the tube people are squashed together. There’s barely space to breathe. Now, due to the virus and fewer folk travelling, you might actually even get a seat…and what does our boneheaded mayor do? He reduces the service…so you’ll still be squashed together and suffocating.
      What an utter ________!
      I’ll let you fill in the blanks…

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Perhaps the Mayor, safe in office for an extra year, wishes to spread the virus for socio-econo-political purposes?

        He can then go and rattle the collecting tin under Rishi’s nose.

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  12. taffman says:

    A bit of good news before I clock off – cases in Italy are not rising as fast ? Perhaps Al Beeb will catch up and now provide with more positive news …………..

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Silver linings.

    So the Fiat 500 gathers dust in Heathrow short stay.

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    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      Grammatically that should be “@maitlis and I” yer Beauty! 👍
      And Arnie said “I’ll be back”
      Jeez, it’s so basic!!!

      🤧 Excuse me!

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      • thehoiman says:

        Schwarzenegger as The Terminator said that shortly before butchering the entire staff of a police station.

        The only thing Sopel will be butchering upon his return will be the truth.

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  14. Doublethinker says:

    There are many ways in which the pandemic may have long term effects on society and it passes the time to imagine what they might be. The virus is destabilising society and rapid change in attitudes may result.
    One possible outcome is that the under 40 generations , who have lived in a time of great relative prosperity, suddenly are shocked into the realisation that their affluence and well being isn’t a given and that it can be taken from them by events. Perhaps this will wake them up to the fact that their comfortable way of life in this country and the West in general isn’t a given and is much more fragile than perhaps they thought and needs to be protected by them. They may already think that about the supposed threat of climate change but will this realisation spread to opposing other threats like open borders, mass migration or Islamisation? Will they realise that their own lives can be threatened by changes such as those?

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Totally agree Double, – those pouty selfies and bare torsos never seemed so inappropriate as they do now. Perhaps this is the sharp shock that will make the last 2 generations need to grow up and mature !

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Bris – please don’t diss my ‘pouty selfies and bare torsos ‘ – and if you want I’ll provide a link to Fedup2s website collection ….. ( I’m actually in selfie isolation …)

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, if you post any of those on here, I’m putting a cardboard box over my head for extra self-isolation.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Up2
            Fortunately I’m not inclined to learn how to put pictures here ……
            ….more bad news – the swines have cancelled the Eurovision Song Contest . The bad news is thar they’ve only cancelled it for a year ….

            … and apparently the British entry was a ‘tune’ called –

            My Last Breath …..

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            • Up2snuff says:

              I’m in danger now of straining an intercostal muscle again. I have been laughing so much reading stuff on this Thread.

              As the good old Readers Digest used to put it – Laughter: The Best Medicine.

              Think my immunity levels have shot up. Thanks to all.

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        • BRISSLES says:

          Oh Godddddd ! aren’t we suffering enough Fed ? I might have to share the cardboard box with UP2 !!!!

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    • smoogie7 says:

      I was thinking this myself. Would all those ‘the older people stole our futures’ who are waiting for the old people to die because ‘the old people always vote Tory’ would now change their outlook considering that those older people are their grandparents and would have likely been young during the war and so experienced rations and restrictions.

      Now I wouldn’t normally share anything from the Mirror, or the Horror as I call it but this video is worth a watch:

      https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/grans-foul-mouthed-coronavirus-rant-21706419

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  15. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Unwise choices by the BBC

    The BBC play a clip of Jess Phillips MP speaking in the House yesterday. Most of said MP’s constituents live on £99 per week or less she informed listeners while asking a question of the Chancellor of the Exchequer. “What will he do for them?”

    The question for constituents in Birmingham Yardley (a previously affluent area of Birmingham) must be “Has voting for a Labour MP served this constituency well?” and “Would we be doing better if we elected an representative from a different political Party?”

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    • JimS says:

      Most MPs in Yardley can’t afford a £50 printer!

      An awful lot of the constituents though seem to be able to afford 4 Audis per household (at least).

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Poor Jess – so strange that the Commons seems to develop various ‘larger than life ‘ characters who perform particular roles – Dennis Skinner – Cyril Smith – and various others whom the MSM embrace as ‘media stars’ whom they rely on to say meaningless stuff like that .

      Being a bit of an anorak – watching Richy Sunak both at the number 10 press conference and in the Commons at 1900 Tuesday night – for a bloke who has just been given the chancellor job by mistake -to deliver in the way he is doing is pretty impressive – and ,
      Unlike the markets , his stock is rising …

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      • Up2snuff says:

        typo correction on my post – eek – ‘an’ should be ‘a’ in the penultimate line.

        Jim, that gave me a hearty chuckle. 🙂

        Fed, I agree Rishi has done well for a guy thrown in pretty much at the deep end. Alok Sharma, Treas.Min., did not do so well up against Rick Nobinson in a ‘be tough on a Tory’ Minister mode. To be fair, Sharma did not seem well-prepared in a clearly difficult and fast moving situation. It might have been better to have turned down the invite.

        Perhaps No.10 or No.11 asked him to go on the TOADY prog?

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      • BRISSLES says:

        I wonder if he wants to run the NHS in his spare time !

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Brissles my dear old thing (well, it is nearly the cricket – wot cricket? – season) to whom do you refer? Alok or Nick?

          I’ve been a bit concerned for Nick in that he has sounded quite husky on air recently. He did think he had acquired Covid-19 & self-isolated for a bit but the dreaded cancer may have returned. I hope not.

          How are you doing in your bunker up north? Hope you are not going ‘stir-crazy’. Keep well.

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          • BRISSLES says:

            I was referring to Rishi, his background in finance should be able to crunch the NHS numbers.

            Nooooooo, not in the least stir crazy……. yet ! still dog walking, cooking up feasts for the freezer, and getting my daily paper from the Co-op. The state of the garden keeps beckoning me, but sadly I don’t have an “inner Charlie Dimmock” trying to get out (now now boys), perhaps later, much much later.

            Not sure how far ‘north’ you think I am, unless you consider 35 miles north of London ‘up north’. But still deep enough in the country to be considered rural !

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  16. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    The Israeli government has approved emergency measures to track the mobile phone data of people with suspected coronavirus.

    ***
    With dodgy photo of BIbi in complement.

    When the bbc does not like a government, it throws a lot of editorial resource at it.

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    • Guest Who says:

      OT, but I bet Katty would RT it…

      That said, #CCBGB

      I learned a lot from some, if nothing new about media integrity.

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      • JimS says:

        Doesn’t give one much confidence if it takes the World Health Organisation over six weeks to come up with a name!

        I am sure in Douglas Adams’ world there would be an ‘Ark-C’ for people with enough time on their hands to do word counts. Covid-19 might validate the need for telephone sanitisers but word counters?

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Jim “the need for telephone sanitisers” take a tip from a BT Contract cleaning lady from many years ago – use cheap mouthwash.

          Makes the phone smell nice, too.

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  17. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – More unwise choices by the BBC

    Nick Robinson interviews a spokesman from a major shortage supermarket (revealing typo slip there) and in the course of the interview a truth was confirmed as was a major lie. We were told last year via the BBC that there would be shortages of food and drink and pharmaceuticals if we left the EU without a deal. It was a complete lie.

    The BBC told us that. Various people were brought onto the BBC N&CA programmes to tell us that. Some MPs used Radio 4 to to tell us that. They were lying. It has taken the Covid-19 pandemic to reveal the truth.

    How do I know? The spokesman from the supermarket when asked about empty shelves this morning said “There are plenty of stocks in the supply chain.”

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Snuffy,
      The great pity is that the lie you skilfully expose , along with all the others that the BBC tell on a daily basis, will never come to the notice of 90% of the population because there is no right of centre broadcaster to expose them. The MSM are overwhelmingly leftists and Globalists and they know that they can lie with impunity and never be held accountable for what they write or say.
      Making the BBC fend for itself is a tiny step in the right direction but look how difficult that is proving to be. In the USA the MSM is so anti President Trump that it has become a parody of a news service. But when and how does the centre right push back against the MSM?
      A few years ago I thought that the internet might be the answer but the left is steadily capturing that outlet too. Free speech is steadily being curtailed , the truth suppressed, Orwell would be sad that his dystopian novel is well on the way to becoming our 21 st century reality.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Dt, I think the public probably knew by instinct that they were being lied to by Remainers and Remoaners over a No Deal Brexit, not least because for decades the BBC and others in the MSM have been commenting every year on the appearance of certain stocks in supermarkets at different points in the year. This, especially so for Christmas when certain products increasingly fill the shelves in September and October.

        I don’t think we need a specifically “right of centre broadcaster to expose them.”.

        A broadcaster like that would be easily dismissed anyway and would become a target for those who claim to hate divisiveness but would themselves then create divisiveness by branding this broadcaster as ‘right wing’.

        What we do need, in my view, is for the BBC to be completely politically neutral, to not campaign and to concentrate instead on informing and educating.

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        • Ian Rushlow says:

          There’s an easy solution to the constant issue of the BBC being called biased towards the left, biased towards the right (sic).

          Scrap it.

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        • JimS says:

          “What we do need, in my view, is for the BBC to be completely politically neutral, to not campaign and to concentrate instead on informing and educating.”

          It would be a start to get rid of all those ‘editors’ that appear on the news to tell us what the stories are ‘really’ about. That is opinion, not news.

          Next they could get rid of all those ‘questions’ on the website that allow them to inroduce topics that aren’t even in the news – ‘Should it be a hate crime to refuse sex with a transgender person?’ etc.

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        • Doublethinker says:

          I think that the BBC is beyond reform and that short of sacking most of the staff it is impossible to force it to become politically neutral. Therefore the only available practicable solution is to make it a subscription only service so that those who don’t wish to be indoctrinated can opt out from paying for it. I think that even if this were to happen there is every danger that a future non conservative government could pay for it out of general taxation and it would again rise Phoenix like from the ashes.My own preferred , but definitely right wing , preference is one of abolition followed by obliteration so that the foul corporation can never be reassembled again.

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    • Blackwell says:

      There appears to be a problem with your take.

      We didn’t leave the EU with a no deal.

      The issues created for food/medicine supply in a no deal Brexit scenario were not the same as the current issue – high demand for certain products. (They were often about types of foods we were used to not being available or price rises).

      I would also point out that ‘MPs used Radio 4 to to tell us that’…..is not the BBC telling you that.

      I had a look back – there seem surprisingly few online articles from the BBC about the subject.

      But here its the government of the Isle of Man warning about it:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-49729961

      Here, it’s Sainsbury’s, Asda and McDonald’s:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47028748

      The Food and Drink Federation (FDF) :

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49258852

      And here, it was the UK government itself in its own ‘worst case scenario’ planning:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49670123

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  18. Guest Who says:

    The BBC is beyond parody now.

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  19. Guest Who says:

    This was the chap the bbc felt needed to be given a platform.

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    • Blackwell says:

      You mean John Ashton CBE, previously of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and the University of Liverpool School of Medicine, and former president of the Faculty of Public Health?

      John Ashton, one of the founders of both the World Health Organisation’s Healthy Cities Project and the Liverpool public health observatory and winner of the Alwyn Smith Prize and Medal “for lifelong contributions to public health”?

      I guess he’s just trying to make things, new or better, often from other stuff, via science and medicine and stuff.

      Seems well qualified for a platform to speak on the subject.
      Not sure what your qualifications are?

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      • Guest Who says:

        Oo, a post from the bunker recesses. You seem Crosse.

        Did you listen to the blustering ideologue?

        When you are sure of anything, and not guessing, do get back.

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        • Blackwell says:

          Sure, send me your CV, I’ll happily have a look.

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          • Guest Who says:

            Nothing from your body of work suggests a grain of happiness. So either inaccurate or untrustworthy. Or both.

            Hence you are in precisely the right job. For now.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Blackwell:

        Yes, that would be the Professor John Ashton who is a life long Labour Party member who is so far left he called his son Fabian Che.

        A man who is such a tendentious left wing bore even Fiona Bruce had to shut him up on Question Time.

        Not exactly politically neutral, much like your good self.

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        • Blackwell says:

          Don’t think he claims to be politically neutral, nor is there an obligation on him to be so.

          I am not in favour of denying qualified people platforms for expressing their views, just because I disagree with their views. Not sure about your good self?

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          • Guest Who says:

            ‘Views’ as a political ideologue equated with ‘views’ as a supposedly rigourous, impartial scientist.

            Sounds legit.

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          • Rob in Cheshire says:

            Blackwell:

            Professor Ashton is clearly a far left wing ideologue. How many people do you know who would name their child after the Fabian Society and Che Guevara?

            The BBC is behaving in a typically disingenuous manner in presenting him as a disinterested scientist.

            But you knew that really, didn’t you?

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            • Guest Who says:

              What was it about his ranting left wing ideology at a time of febrility that first attracted the good Prof, over others, to the impartial and balanced national broadcaster?

              And some others.

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  20. Guest Who says:

    VD RTs herself. Keeps the numbers up.

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  21. Thoughtful says:

    Some ‘expert’ or other has apparantly caught the virus, he is the one who made the claim that up to 260000 people would die if nothing was done.

    Based on the claim by our media that the people dying from this desease have “serious underlying health conditions” it’s reasonable to conclude that they weren’t going to have that many more days of life anyway.

    ‘Experts’ know a lot about single issues, but they fail to be able to see past their pet topic to the bigger picture.

    We are about to destroy our own economy based on global fatalities of just 8000 people! Even if you believe the ‘experts’ almost certainly inflated claim that a quarter of a million people might die (they’ll die anyway!) that is just 0.35% of the population.

    I know exactly what the hysterical arguments from the Fascist left will be about sentencing people to death etc, but the flip side of this is that up to 10 million people will be unemployed and condemned to a life of poverty. The country will be much poorer and social security pensions benefits etc will fail and we risk returning to a life similar to the Victorians when poverty really was poverty.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      Perhaps if the rats in government had kept their promise to ladies now in their sixties about pensionable age ( WASPIs) there would be many more elderly individuals and families who would be capable of looking after themselves.

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  22. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – Even more unwise choices by the BBC

    Yesterday saw the biggest jump in UK confirmed cases of Covid-19 infection. The most important news that the BBC could convey today would be the latest increase and the running total of known infections. The BBC has not brought that important news to me in the 8a.m. main News broadcast on Radio 4.

    The BBC are no longer a provider of serious News and Current Affairs. They are mere gossips, political activists and naysayers. They are failing in their Charter requirements. All they produce is tittle tattle and an ever lengthening queue of begging bowls for ‘government’, in truth begging money from the taxpayer.

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    • Blackwell says:

      The 9am bulletin had, in this order:

      * Chancellor’s economic measures
      * Professor Neil Ferguson infected
      * Supermarkets opening for the elderly/disabled
      * A new born is one of 3 new infections in a Norfolk hospital (mentions 70 people who had tested positive in the UK have now died)
      * Trials due to take more than 3 days are postponed.
      *Asian stock markets.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        You didn’t really read my post or understand it, did you Blackwell?

        The most important News item for the BBC should be number of new confirmed Covid-19 cases, followed by number of deaths and whether in the deceased case there was an underlying health condition or conditions.

        Do you realise why that information is so important?

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        • Blackwell says:

          Hi,

          I read your post a few times. Its interesting though isn’t it, that I simply listed the running order of what was covered, and yet you felt I misunderstood?

          Infection and death figures may be what you perceive to be the ‘most important’ news, I don’t think running totals are required in every bulletin. I suspect other news broadcasters don’t either.

          However, what these reports are not, is ‘gossips, political activists and naysayers……tittle tattle and an ever lengthening queue of begging bowls for ‘government’.

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          • StewGreen says:

            What he said was that R4Today seemed trivia
            and gave their example of the 8am news

            You gave the example of the 9am news
            which seemed much better and less trivia.

            Running totals come out at 8pm every day
            so that is one reason R4Today might not be talking about them.

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  23. Guest Who says:

    This is so sweet. Nice old dear self isolating being hugged by young lady who was only hours ago visiting… Idris Elba? Mrs. Trudeau?

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  24. No.6 says:

    In view of the unending criticism from the bbC over the governments fiscal response to the C virus maybe they could step up to the plate and offer a 6 month moratorium on the telly tax renewal costs. It would help all the poor and vulnerable they keep bleating about.

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    • G says:

      No.6,
      “…….maybe they could step up to the plate and “……..suspend all telly tax payments for a year: go cap in hand to Gary et al. “Dream on” I hear you say……

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  25. G says:

    My internet access regularly throws up a NHS link. Today, I thought I’d explore that link – https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/
    Found this:
    “The NHS will contact you from Monday 23 March 2020 if you are at particularly high risk of getting seriously ill with coronavirus. You’ll be given specific advice about what to do.”
    Being well into the risk categories for numerous reasons, I will be interested to see what “specific advice” is forthcoming.

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  26. Up2snuff says:

    #metoo, G. I get badgered by the Practice Manager every year for the past however many since passing 60 to go in and get a free ‘flu’ jab in September or October. I must write and get them to plaster a note over my Notes, that I strenuously endeavour to keep well clear of the Practice and its waiting rooms for about seven or eight months starting in September each year.

    An underlying health condition for a few years, on top of one since childhood, means that – like for our Fedup2 – a ‘flu’ jab presents a considerable risk to me. It will be interesting to see what the NHS tell us in up-to-date advice. No doubt the BBC will complain that the Government haven’t done enough and told us anything.

    Keep well!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      Not BBC – but I was ‘invited’ to have a health check last week . I thought it a bit strange that they were still doing this but I went to the surgery anyway …. the following day the surgery emailed everyone saying ‘don’t come to the surgery ‘……

      I’m wondering if the blood they took from me will be-checked for the Chinese bug . I think I know the answer ….

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      • Up2snuff says:

        I used to be offered an MoT at the Docs every other year after age 60, but they seemed to have dropped that last year.

        I always accepted that MoT offer, as it coincided with my ‘Safe to Visit the GP’ season of April to August.

        I hope you get a good report and can carry on motoring away on this site and in all other aspects of life.

        (PS. Sorry for duplicate post, don’t know how that happened, I spotted it too late to self-delete. Please feel free to eliminate it.)

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  27. Up2snuff says:

    #metoo, G. I get badgered by the Practice Manager every year for the past however many since passing 60 to go in and get a free ‘flu’ jab in September or October. I must write and get them to plaster a note over my Notes, that I strenuously endeavour to keep well clear of the Practice and its waiting rooms for about seven or eight months starting in September each year, especially for ‘flu’ jabs.

    An underlying health condition for a few years, on top of one since childhood, means that – like for our Fedup2 – a ‘flu’ jab presents a considerable risk to me. It will be interesting to see what the NHS tell us in up-to-date advice. No doubt the BBC will complain that the Government haven’t done enough and told us anything and have kept the NHS starved of money for ten years.

    Keep well!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      And there’s me – asking for a flu jab – refused . Asking for a yearly psa ( Prostate ) test – refused . Glad I paid 40 years of NI contributions ….

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, you can get them for free at chemists, I’ve been told, as well as at GPs but perhaps you haven’t had that significant birthday yet.

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      • G says:

        Fed,
        ‘PSA test’. Be very careful. That test is the start of a merry-go-round designed to suggest the ‘experts’ know what they’re doing. Shocking.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          G
          Thank you – sadly my family has had experience of various forms of the big C so I was instructed to be cautious.

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          • Scroblene says:

            I don’t mind going to my chemist for any sort of test – she’s utterly gorgeous…

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  28. Guest Who says:

    #CCBGB

    Soon a few savvy pols will figure out how to free up £5,000,000,000 annually with only around 20,000 non essential job losses, and next to zero public concern.

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  29. Jeff says:

    The world these days seems to be in a state of permanent panic. A fortnight ago people were fretting about “the climate catastrophe”. We were overwhelmed with images of emaciated polar bears and burning forests. All this seems to have been completely forgotten. No one has even mentioned Greta and “the burning planet” for about a week. Amazing!

    Now, yesterday I did something quite reckless. I went out…
    Some will call me foolhardy, some, will think I’m heroic.
    I only packed the essentials; Camera, wide angle and zoom lens, flask of coffee, face mask, sterilised hand gel, sanitised gloves…and just in case… my protective polar bear deterrent spray…accurate from ten feet.
    Okay, so I was only venturing to Hampton Court Gardens, but these days you can’t be too careful.

    We few intrepid travelers smiled at each other on the almost deserted platform at Clapham Junction. I’m sure we felt like The Dambusters.
    I stood there stoical and brave and rather wished I owned a pipe so that I could clench it manfully between my teeth. Alas…

    Suffice to say Hampton Court Gardens were stunning, I took over two hundred photographs and I seem to have survived the experience, hairy though it was at times.

    Okay, so perhaps I don’t deserve to be ranked alongside those heroic Brit’s of old, Scott, Shackleton, Mallory and Burton, but…

    And today, reckless fool that I am, I’m venturing out to Kew Gardens.

    I may be some time…

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Love it, great post. Have fun!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Jeff
        Yeah – ‘thoughts and prayers ‘…..

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, LOL!

          My thought and prayer was: ‘Bluebottle thinks, Euuughhh! I wish I was in range of easy travel to Hampton Court and Kew Gardens, I do. I wish …’

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          • Scroblene says:

            Well done Jeff, we need men like you at the moment!

            How are you off for a bit of news-reading?

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  30. StewGreen says:

    Sadiq was set to win again, but the election has been delayed to 2021

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  31. StewGreen says:

    Sadiq cut the tubes, so more people were crammed in
    but it would be safer to drive.

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  32. Stevo says:

    We are shortly going to be in a situation where every business in the country is in considerable debt to the government.
    Effectively the proprietorship of Business will have moved from Private to Public hands within the course of 6 months as a consequence of the Virus.
    If government can create money to lend to businesses, then they can create money to give to businesses. I have not gone in for the New World Order Conspiracy Theories in the past but it appears to me now that I am wrong.
    The MSM have been happy to create the panic and then lauded the government loan bail out without any rigorous assessment of what it will mean.

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  33. Stevo says:

    We are shortly going to be in a situation where every business in the country is in considerable debt to the government.
    Effectively the proprietorship of Business will have moved from Private to Public hands within the course of 6 months as a consequence of the Virus.
    If government can create money to lend to businesses, then they can create money to give to businesses. I have not gone in for the New World Order Conspiracy Theories in the past but it appears to me now that I am wrong.
    The MSM have been happy to create the panic and then lauded the government loan bail out without any rigorous assessment of what it will mean.

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  34. G says:

    Why is Italy suffering disproportionately from the Chinese Virus?
    Simples, it seems:
    The sale of many Italian textile businesses to the Chinese who, in turn, import their own workers from China – and particularly Wuhan.
    ” Italy today is evidently home to a large Chinese community (more than 300,000), made up of people who arrived in the past two decades and who work in the textile and leather sector. Many of the Chinese living in Italy are from Wuhan and Wenzhou, and some had just been in Wuhan and Wenzhou for the Chinese New Year on January 25, when the Chinese authorities could not hide the epidemic any longer. These Chinese had returned to Italy from China before the Italian government suspended flights from there. The epidemic emerged in Lombardy; Bergamo, one of the capitals of the Italian textile industry, was one of the first cities affected.”
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15752/coronavirus-comes-for-europe
    I applaud our MSM and British & Asian Broadcasting Corporation in particular for identifying what accompanies the benefits of ‘Globalism’ and explaining that to their licensees……………
    In case you are wondering.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/02/01/hinkley-point-c-bansworkers-flying-china-overcoronavirus-fears/

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    • StewGreen says:

      There is an Italian reporter who was shouting “FakeNews” at David Vance
      yet he provided no evidence to contradict the idea that lots of Chinese are working in Italy.

      What is FakeNews is the racist idea that every Chinese in Italy is a carrier
      when of course many haven’t been travelling back and forth
      and might way be les of risk than some native Italians.
      I suspect that is what the Italian guy means.

      https://asiatimes.com/2020/03/on-being-a-chinese-in-italy-during-virus-crisis/

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    • Blackwell says:

      Yeah, that was the complete b————s Edited tweeted by David Vance. Bunkum.

      Can’t think why they’d make this edited up. Perhaps the article can give us a clue…………

      ‘The whole scenario is a disaster for the EU and their open borders narrative, but as the 4th biggest economy in the EU this whole situation with Italy could accelerate the collapse of the whole EU project.’

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  35. StewGreen says:

    Radio Humberside news this morning
    – #1 ‘The Tories are under pressure for not doing enough over CoronaVirus
    .. The Labour Party have said … ”
    FFS It’s Like Alistair Campbell writes their scripts

    – #2 ‘ The New Zealand guy who was found guilty of murdering the Lincoln University student has started his appeal’

    Now Radio Lincolnshire ran that same story, at least there is a local connection with her going to Lincoln uni, but there is no Humberside connection’

    .. The obvious contrast with the absolute minimal reporting with UK grooming gang cases, is staggering.

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  36. AnneG says:

    As it is rather difficult to watch BBC News without increasing my blood pressure, I need a distraction. But first, would someone please remind them that they are not the official opposition,
    Anyway, as others have written about, YouTube can supply an answer. So, may I offer a distraction that helps me. I watch Nicola White on mud larking, I find it so relaxing.
    Love to all

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Thanks for that recommendation. Is Nicola White the one who wrote the book that was on R4 BotW last year or in 2018? I enjoyed that. Am self isolating from BotW this week as it is a political OpEd piece by an American. I can guess what will be said. Next week it is about Cornwall. That should be good.

      Keep well, Anne.

         11 likes

      • AnneG says:

        Hello UP2
        I do not think so. There is a Nicola White who wrote ‘the rosary garden;’ perhaps that’s the book. The one I watch owns Tideline Art and is more of an artist. Very enjoyable videos.

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  37. StewGreen says:

    @bbcworldservice Over to You Uncovering the tell tale signs of fake news
    BBC Monitoring has recently published an online video with some top tips

    Yes there is right wing FakeNews on social media : which spin the news to be anti-Muslim, leave off context, and do tricks like hype 3 year old stories and make you believe they happened yesterday.
    But that is the 1% of FakeNews that we come across
    The BBC would have you believe that right wing stuff is the 100% of FakeNews
    When we know that the bourgeoisie media like the BBC, Channel4 are responsible for disemination 99% of FakeNews by means of their own groupthink and the way they cutNpaste their NGO & lefty mates

    The item as usual sounded like the producer had both made up the listener complaints and was reading them out
    ‘We love the BBC, but what can you guys at the BBC do to spot FakeNews”

    The BBC head of FakeNews Monitoring bumbled on
    “The source is important”
    … em no it isn’t ..The principle of the Naked Emperor’s Suit is that it is the evidence that counts .. not the messenger ..it can be a small boy.

    The one thing he said is beware Twitter accounts with telephone number like names
    I would agree that they do usually seem to be bot accounts
    That might originate in KGB or CIA headquarters, we wouldn’t know.

    #2 The second item aired saying Food Scientist Scientists were not contested by their opposition.
    Yeh well that is just the same as the any voice that opposes the BBC’s cherrypicked Climate Activist voices.

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  38. StewGreen says:

    Some BBC drama are stopping filming
    ..So Eastenders will reducing number of episodes per week

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  39. Nibor says:

    “We are not an island ” says the worlds bank .
    They must wish they are now , because they were closed in my town , unlike Santander .
    Perhaps having this open office plan where people discuss their finances isn’t a good idea .

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  40. andyjsnape says:

    Does it really need a virus to get rid of this cr*p

    Coronavirus: EastEnders, Casualty, Doctors and Holby City suspend filming

    Reports the beeb website. and in the real world… anyone bothered

       31 likes

    • G says:

      andyj,
      “……Casualty, Doctors and Holby City….” Perhaps the NHS has raided and seized the props…………

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC Local Radio

      🥁 Here’s a duff duff moment. 🥁
      EastEnders has stopped filming and going down to 2 episodes a week for now.

      ***

      Unless the word has changed meaning, oddly honest of them.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Break out the box set of ER and self-isolate. You will learn a whole lot more about being a proper doctor or nurse than you can from Casualty and Holby City.

        And you can cancel the TV Licence, too. A bonus!

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  41. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-51939911

    “Coronavirus: Asian nations face virus battle amid WHO warning”

    “Malaysia has warned of a fresh spike in cases, saying there is only a “slim chance” of breaking the chain of infections.
    A mass Muslim gathering last month is linked to nearly two-thirds of its infections and thousands of attendees are yet to be tested.”

    Just one more reason for the forcible expulsion from Europe of this group of highly negative value organisms.

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  42. Beltane says:

    Stop Press!
    Shock horror!
    Youngest Cov-19 death at 45!

    Oh, by the way. Terribly sad, of course, but he had Motor Neurone Disease since 2018.

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  43. cromwell says:

    I had to laugh last night. I was watching talking pictures and an advert came on for Just Men beard dye. What with grecian 2000 the sales must be quite healthy. What do they say every cloud has a silver lining. Ha

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  44. Sluff says:

    I must be missing something.
    Instead of economic armageddon for months, destroying savings, businesses, livelihoods, plans for the future, plus social isolation, all with an uncertain impact on Coronavirus spread, and all potentially only delaying rather than avoiding individual illness, why don’t we just carry on normally and if we get it, we get it?
    The young and fit will get through, and then have immunity which can be used to provide service to those who are going through the illness. Granted a certain number of people, often economically unproductive, might not survive but many may not under the current policy anyway.

    Am I being heartless? Well maybe. But consider this. NICE used to put a price on drugs versus lifespan. From memory they would sanction a spend of £30k p.a. on, say, a trial cancer drug, if it would enable the sufferer to live an extra year. So calculations of life expectancy versus state costs are nothing new. They are the norm and have been for years in the NHS. Proof? The high profile media stories where someone has to raise funds to go abroad for treatment.

    So in effect what we are doing is advocating economic and social meltdown for many weeks at a cost of maybe £300 bn in order to keep a number of mainly elderly and other vulnerable people living for a few more years.

    Right or wrong, that’s where we are.

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  45. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-51933618
    “Coronavirus: How can we stay in virtual touch with older relatives?”

    Inside the bubble the BBC believes everybody has only African relatives!
    Because they are only showing the uglies.
    Kill it Boris, now, traitors are not required, £4 billion for emergency equipment to remove undesirable organisms from the UK.

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    • Blackwell says:

      I have the name of at least one undesirable organism who’s removal would be a deliverance for all.

         7 likes

  46. Square-Eyed says:

    Coronavirus: Help at Hand?

    The preliminary advertising finishes at 1.04.

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  47. StewGreen says:

    From Our Own Correspondent used to be a good prog
    cos it has depth to give context
    as opposed to soundbite news progs.
    But then it became hijacked by the agenda pushers
    so it’s priority is shouting
    “SpecialVictimhood groups good, Far-Right bad”

    Last Weeks did migrants trying to smuggle themselves in from Italy into France
    It portrayed them as the good guys and Le Pen bad.
    Protecting human rights and freedom of movement in a changing world is at the heart of President Emmanuel Macron’s commitment to a stronger European Union. But the far-right nationalist party of Marine Le Pen is promising the French a different kind of freedom: protection from the European Union with its open borders and open markets. Lucy Williamson has been on the frontier between France and Italy where, despite appearances, tensions run high.

    Previous edition
    The Great Mosque in the city of Cordoba is one of Spain’s biggest tourist attractions. It is also a reminder of the country’s complex history, which included a period of Islamic rule in the middle ages. But an on-going disagreement over the monument’s origins has fed into present-day tensions in Spanish politics says Guy Hedgecoe.

    The Solomon Islands, once a South Pacific paradise of blue lagoons, and emerald forests are severely affected by climate change. On a recent visit, funded by the Pulitzer Centre, John Beck discovered a nation vanishing beneath the waves.
    .. He laid it on thick I bet he’s cherry picking locations ..and not giving full context
    His claims about dramatic sea level rise , didn’t seem plausible
    He seems to be from an outside agenda pushing org

    Thais emigrating to Norway’s Svalbard archipelago
    Clodagh Kinsella said “tourists are coming to get a glimpse of the polar bears before they go”
    FFS The polar bears are not diminishing
    (She’s a frequent flyer Indy journo)

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    • StewGreen says:

      Previous edition
      “An astonishing turnaround says Anthony Zurcher.” speaking about Joe Biden

      There are more than three and a half million migrants in South Africa, out of an overall population of 50 million. But with politicians accused of stoking anti-immigrant sentiment and attacks on foreigners on the rise
      Zeinab Badawi wonders if South Africa suffers from ‘Afrophobia’.

      I used to live there at the time Mandela was freed and Apartheid ended
      It was staggering to see so many migrants who’d left their home countries where they were free to vote
      to come to SA cos the economy actually worked, cos it was not screwed up by corruption.
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000fw0y

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      • StewGreen says:

        previous edition
        #1 Muslims are victims in Delhi
        .. controversial citizenship law. The legislation grants amnesty to illegal immigrants but only non-Muslim ones.
        .. Yogita Limaye says many are stunned by the ferocity of the attacks.

        #2 Hosni Mubarak has been buried in Cairo with full military honours. The 91-year-old, who ruled the Arab world’s most populous state for three decades, was forced from office by the Arab Spring in 2011. Jeremy Bowen looks at the legacy

        #3 Last year, Sudan’s former president Omar al-Bashir was also ousted after the killing and torture of hundreds of thousands of people in Darfur. But civilians in Sudan’s province of Blue Nile also suffered misery and terror.
        .. now famine threatens says Peter Oborne.
        (since he’s anti Boris the BBC want to push money his way)

        #3 Gender dysphoria.. transition to the desired gender can ease distress, but it may be a long and painful process – socially, medically, surgically… And sometimes it doesn’t go to plan. In the Netherlands, Linda Pressly met someone who’s ridden the gender roller-coaster.

        #4 Choosing trains over planes is not just about guilt over our carbon footprint.
        Trains are cool.
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000fwjc

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      • StewGreen says:

        Previous edition
        #1 Bernie Sanders is promising to roll out government-run health insurance for everyone. When Laura Trevelyan broke her wrist, she found navigating the US insurance system both pricey and confusing.

        #4 Bradlaugh Hall in the Pakistani city of Lahore, a building where nationalists once staged meetings against British rule, is slowly crumbling away.
        Andrew Whitehead recently managed to make his way in

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Stew, I used to really enjoy FooC but gave up on it when it became an agenda push programme. Shame about that.

          C’mon, BBC, get back to ‘Inform, Educate and Entertain’ before it is too late.

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          • Rob in Cheshire says:

            It is too late for the BBC.

            Since the 1960s it has been entirely captured by the left. It must now be defunded and allowed to sink or swim on its own merits.

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  48. Guest Who says:

    https://order-order.com/2020/03/18/beeb-slims-coronavirus/?

    But… still raking it in?

    Sounds like another unique TVL scam like the pension top ups.

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  49. Fedup2 says:

    A really sad Twitter from the Biased Far Lefty Snowflake who ‘presented ‘ the Daily Biased Politics Show ‘ on the BBC saying she is at home watching it on the TV instead of presenting it .

    People who are extraordinarily at home have been deprived of seeing and hearing the bias for themselves ….. I wonder if the BBC were scared of getting caught out .

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  50. Up2snuff says:

    The HorrorBin completely loses the plot, here:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51926160

    Last week it was this:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/science-environment-51860048/tree-planting-i-want-to-plant-one-million

    For CO2 Global Warming and Climate Change, they cannot both be right.

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