323 Responses to Start the Week 9 March 2020

  1. G says:

    Could anybody help me out here? I would dearly like to find a particular scene on YT.
    Many years ago on the Bremner, Bird & Fortune programme, the two Johns produced a hilarious short scene where they, as members of the elite team of top civil servants had a internal meeting to discuss the problem with OAP’s there being too many of them. The little one, had a brilliant idea which he asserted as the solution: “Bingo Halls” blurted he. The incredulous meeting demanded he explain. Well, said he, “If someone is up on the roof of the Bingo Halls, they could sprinkle cyanide crystals on the gathering below”……..
    I often think of that scene particularly now with the incessant, ‘washing hands’.


    • Deborah says:

      G, I presume Bremner Bird and Fortune was BBC rather than Channel 4? There used to be a clip from Victoria Wood I enjoyed which I would watch on YT. It is no longer available, I cannot remember the message but it lead me to think they were all removed because of copyright and Britbox.

      Whilst the clip you describe may seem funny as you watch it, from how you describe it, it reminds me of the concentration camps gas chambers, so perhaps somebody on reflection may have thought it in bad taste? Although if it were the BBC that is perhaps unlikely.


      • G says:

        Yes, at the time, it was intended that the viewer made that connection I have no doubt.


    • StewGreen says:

      @G The only thing the internet throws up is you asking about that “Bremner Bird & Fortune” episode before

      try this list massive on Youtube
      …or top 5 in the Guardian

      You said the keywords : Bingo Halls, cyanide crystals, “old people” “civil servants”
      but nothing comes up

      Usually IMDB, Wiki , or C4 list what is on each episode
      but nope not this prog


      • StewGreen says:

        If you find a superfan, they might know
        No one said anything on the FB fanclub for a while


  2. JamesArthur says:

    Wimmins hour
    Talking to a lady (Sunday Times Correspondent) who has written a book about rape in wars…she talks a lot about militia, ISIS, Nigeria

    So Martha or whoever it is says and ” What about the British Army?”
    The lady then mumbles stumbles etc but doesn’t just come out and say actually I couldn’t find anything – which she clearly couldn’t.

    Martha specifically asks about the British army – but didn’t ask about religious element ….wonder why?


  3. Foscari says:

    The BBC’S latest obsession along with Diversity, Positive
    Discrimination ,is just really another stage with their
    diversity ” project” It’s transgender. Nearly every day on
    their internet front page there is a feature on transgender.
    It might take second place to the pandemic , but not by much.
    Being in the gambling business I would like to bet that
    the next news presenter or major political presenter won’t
    just be a women or more likely an ethnic women. It will be a
    transgender women. Of course all in the name of the diversity.
    Or as Julia Hartley Brewer , Boris Johnson and millions more
    call” BBC clap-trap. Or what I would tell BIG BROTHER in charge
    of the BBC ‘S diversity dept , just plain CRAP!!


  4. Beltane says:

    ‘Upwards of twenty activists stage ‘Save Our BBC’ protest outside Broadcasting House…..’
    Pathetic. Truly pathetic. But expect rather more coverage than Rotherham, or indeed Edinburgh.


    • theisland says:

      Clive thinks the bBC has “a massive role to play in taking down fake news”.
      (The sad thing is he probably DOES really believe that).


      • Fedup2 says:

        Isn’t it funny how the type of character testifying to ‘how wonderful the BBC is ‘ gives away the lie that the BBC is biased toward the Right – a lie the Left rolls out as a ‘false news’ chip ….


      • StewGreen says:

        BTW as we know Trust Pilot gives BBC close to the lowest rating
        1.1 star average over 5,567 reviews

        Fox News has
        3.3 average over 137 reviews .. of course that is a small sample size

        “Home of Fake News.
        Sky News is incapable of reporting the truth.
        Thoroughly anti British and ultra Left.”
        Average Rating 1.5 ….. from 39 reviews


      • john in cheshire says:

        This man’s logic is impeccable! No, that’s not the word in looking for; the word is ‘crap’.

        If he wants to reform the racist far-left bbc, he can do it once it’s been sold off. But he’d better hurry along before it goes bankrupt.


      • Kaiser says:

        The BBC is not perfect, but the solution is not abolition, it is reform.

        where have we heard this clap trap before oh yeah

        The EU is not perfect, but blah blah blah


  5. andyjsnape says:

    ‘I feel like an outsider’
    Ruben says some make-up brands are not selling enough foundation shades for people of colour
    Great reporting from the beeb!

    Meanwhile in the Technology section of the beeb website, they are doing a “report” on the corona virus! I strayed into the Technology sections to get away from the virus!


  6. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Former Chancellor Philip Hammond tells Mishal Husain the UK is “extremely nervous about what the immediate future holds” and it’s possible #coronavirus will result in a “significant dip in economic output in the short term”.

    Read more: https://bbc.in/336Qnps


    Which is the sole reason to get him in.


    • Guest Who says:

      Oo, guess what…

      “Personally I think Sajid Javid made the right call.” Being asked to get rid of his advisers was a “step too far”.

      Former Chancellor Philip Hammond

      Read more: https://bbc.in/2PZSYfG


    • john in cheshire says:

      These rats can’t just fade away, they have to keep coming out of the sewers to spread their filth around, again and again.

      Prime Minister Johnson should have instituted legal proceedings against them, if only to occupy their minds with pending legal matters for a few years while their Remoaner mess is sorted out.

      After all it’s the punishment method most favoured by the swamp rats. Tommy Robinson and Julian Assange being two examples of their wicked use of the legal process as punishment.


  7. Guest Who says:

    That gal from Pakistan retweeting social media like a pro.

    BBC News

    “Did you just cough at me?”

    A woman’s cough on a train in Sydney sparks a row over etiquette



  8. Terminal Moraine says:

    Some racism is more equal than others.

    Two ‘corona-inspired’ attacks recently… BBC duly reports on the Singaporean who was punched in the face in London. Police have now released CCTV pictures of suspects; at least one of the gang is white.

    Police have also just released pictures of the suspect in the Birmingham attack on a Chinese woman where her friend was punched in the face. Nothing to find on the BBC site either on the original story or the Police images (below).




  9. Fedup2 says:

    Once upon a time the BBC made stuff which didn’t have the propaganda applied to it with a trowel . Amazon Prime has the 5 episodes of ‘how to be a nuclear submarine commander ‘ which was excellent when it first went out and is still a great watch . I get the feeling it was pre – Falklands War but can’t be sure .
    When you see something like that you really do notice the absence of the propaganda messages – not a single multi sexual submariner in sight …


    • JimS says:

      Was it not released in 2011 and filmed on HMS Triumph?

      There have been other short features on the ‘perisher’ course.

      I did see a bit of a documentary about life on one of the ‘new’ Type 45 destroyers recently in which a female officer was being assessed. Somehow she passed although appearing to know few of the answers and certainly not having any ‘gravitas’. We were told how hard it was to manage time-served ‘chiefs’, and I am sure that is true – for a young, wet-behind-the-ears male officer, but it must be instant death for any NCO who doesn’t assist in the advancement of ‘the ladies’.

      The captain didn’t have much ‘gravitas’ either as he was more concerned with upsetting the feelings of his crew than taking up his extended tasking. Welcome to the touchy-feely Navy!

      Having said that I have worked with female MEO’s and ME artificers with whom I had every confidence, they got ‘stuck in’ and expected to be treated the same as the lads.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Jim – yes I’ve done the wiki now and it’s as recent as 2011 although it seems much older to me .


  10. Guest Who says:

    Phew… real news.


  11. StewGreen says:

    Yesterday we mentioned Cat Hobbs the woman who runs the WeOwnIt a save the BBC campaign
    It bet that like the Hatey No Hopers
    is a Labour front group

    … Interesting name that seems indicate that the Labour/metroliberals know they own the BBC

    What makes me think that is a Labour front group is that it often retweets stuffs like this


    • JimS says:

      The other day the BBC featured a school where 40 different languages were spoken so to be ‘inclusive’ wouldn’t all immigrants have to have ‘their’ histories told?

      We become an ‘inclusive’ society by sharing things in common. When I was in primary school we were taught local history, why had people settled there in the first place, where did certain street names come from and how had the first settlers lived.

      I wasn’t born there so in a sense it wasn’t ‘my’ history. But the same was true of just about everyone else in the class as the population numbers had scarcely doubled since ‘Doomsday’, until the city expanded its boundaries leading to a post-war housing boom.

      Some here picked up on the woke-style SAS advert, ‘the Scandinavians did nothing original’, and the black lad who spoke about his ‘viking ancestors’, but surely it is better for a society if the incomers ‘celebrate’ the culture of their adopted country than try to hang on to their own?

      There is a name for those that take the latter course – ‘coloniser’.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Stew – what an interesting poster THAT is. What an interesting thing language is! How easily it can be employed to deceive!
      Look carefully: it does not even claim that e.g. black history IS PART of British history. No, it claims that “black history IS British history”.
      If we now think back to the period say 300 -1900, we would be hard-pressed to substantiate that claim. Maybe a handful of black people, at best, maybe some thousands after that?
      The sheepish smiles tell you they probably know full well, but the poster is about misinformation, rather than information.
      The universities and set ups like the beeb will be at the heart of this re-education/deception.
      We are probably only seeing the start of this; prepare yourself for a BIG rewrite of history. I can already see Henry VIII looking rather different on that famous poster!


  12. StewGreen says:

    Archers plot spoiler

    … Major drama on the increasingly woke Archers
    ..Someone has burnt down The Grey Gables with Linda Snell inside, not breathing as the ambulance arrives
    “bad news for Robert”

    … oh well that’s one way of getting ride of those nasty whiteys.


    • JimS says:

      They should all have been burnt, along with Grace in 1955, and the Borchester Motorway Spur driven through the village!


  13. StewGreen says:

    Adrian Goldberg doco tonight.
    He’s been inside the deradicalisation programmes.
    The programme hears from a serving prisoner in a maximum security jail who says convicted terrorists are “gaming” the system by pretending to comply with “de-radicalisation” courses
    – and he warns that non terrorist offenders are being dangerously radicalised


  14. StewGreen says:

    UK Corona virus stats
    54 new cases today… that’s a slight incremental rise.
    Death count up from 3 to 6
    .. I guess deaths come 2 weeks after contact
    so daily deaths should be much bigger in weeks time.


  15. StewGreen says:

    Dr Who rating stats
    Series 12 has become the lowest viewed series of modern-who, with an average *consolidated figure* of 5.4m

    This is a 2.5m decrease from series 11.
    on average
    “Countryfile aired before Doctor Who.
    After it finished, a million+ people turned off.
    Once Doctor Who had finished, 2m+ turned back on to watch Call the Midwife”

    On the night stats
    Countryfile: 5.07 million
    Doctor Who: 3.97 million
    Call The Midwife: 6.15 million

    For the actual final episode only 4.6m watched


  16. pugnazious says:

    Astounding how the BBC suddenly goes totally blind and deaf when it wants to do so.

    During the election it hunted down Tory ‘lies’ and made a lot of noise about them…such as the Tory video that mocked Keir Starmer….more obvious satire than an attempt to mislead….but the BBC thought otherwise as did its fellow travellers…

    ‘a Conservative Party tweet that featured a video of Labour’s Keir Starmer, in which his replies to questions about Brexit had been edited out. The Coalition said this was “misleading”‘

    Today we see a clip of Boris talking about the dreaded new Big C and apparently telling us to not worry and just take it on the chin….trouble is the clip as shown and the interpretation put on it are completely fake…..

    The BBC hasn’t tried to discredit this clip at all…and that’s despite Emma Barnett having a segment on her show talking about the social media platforms taking down all fake news about the coronavirus.

    Look at the usual suspects…Remainers and leftie never-Borisers….doctors, politicians and political commentators….some claiming boris is guilty of urging genocide….

    Here’s the twitter feed in the subject…


    Here’s the Liberal Democrat Parliamentary Spokesperson for North Shropshire…..

    Here’s a Junior Dr in the NHS [and writer for the Independent and HuffPost] who perhaps needs to be spoken to for spreading total lies…ironically he says ‘Cardiologist Dr Dominic Pimenta, 32, said was fed up of seeing “a lot of misinformation” about the virus.’…..

    A Remainer…

    The good doctor seems to be the superspreader of this fake news….will the BBC be asking him in for comment?….probably give him a medal.


  17. StewGreen says:

    As an illustration of bubbleworld
    , page 3 of yesterday’s Yorkshire Posthad an item about this Black Female Professors
    .. only in the last sentence did it mention that it is nowhere near Yorkshire …as it’s in London


    • StewGreen says:

      beneath it the YP has an article about the women’s march
      again not in Yorkshire, but in Whitehall

      Then another article
      ‘Exhibition about Muslim war hero’ :“Noor Inayat-Khan: A Woman of Conspicuous Courage”

      Is that in Yorkshire ?
      Nope, at Runnymede Air Forces Memorial in Surrey

      Tell-Mama have been busy highlighting it on Twitter

      but I suspect there is a strong chance, that she was of Muslim parents, but not very Muslim.


      • StewGreen says:

        Old tweet from DV

        Ah she wasn’t in any way British .. she grew up in France
        and was a refugee who fled to Britain when the Germans invaded France, so she more of a French agent directed out of Britain
        – Her mother was American
        – Her Indian father became an Islamic preacher


        • StewGreen says:

          Her mother Pirani Ameena Begum was of Indian and Americandecent

          In the Wikipedia Talk page an editor says he is not happy about Noor being called a Muslim on the tenuous extension that her father was from a Sufi family, and he asks for evidence of her religious practice.. No one gave him any.


        • StewGreen says:

          Jee , I hadn’t realise that Dr Who appropriated her on Jan 5th

          The series has been using the excuse of having a female doctor to stuff in references to historical female characters.
          … that looks like rewriting history to me.


  18. BRISSLES says:

    I see that Martin Freeman is starring in a new comedy show – Breeders, on Sky. May give it a go, as the trailers indicate that his family is free from diversity, so there are no mixed race children or a wife of a different ethnicity. Rare in tv land.


    • NicG says:

      Take care Bris. IIRC, Martin Freeman played the ‘woke’ card a few years ago when in Sherlock. Something to do with his wife and an Awards show. Im sure somebody will jog my memory.


  19. digg says:

    The BBC website has gone transition bonkers today.

    See this story which is one of half a dozen or so transitioning stories from their home page…


    Before you read them you may need to make sure you are seated comfortably and have some drinks and snack and possibly some paracetamol as well as it gets very long with many twists and turns.

    Two young women (or was it men?) decide to transition then as things move along they get together and decide for some obscure reason to de-transition so now are both men (or women?).

    So it appears you can now decide what sex you are every day when you get up and before you pop out clubbing etc. You will therefore be able to dress to attract whatever the opposite sex happen to be to you that day.

    Of course you may not want to attract the opposite sex but this matters not as you can transition to somewhere half-way so you have a full choice available.

    When will this madness end?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Digg – not BBC – but ITV with Piers Morgan rinsing Lisa Nandi over these chaps pretending to be girls in sport nonsense – this morning – it’s bad enough to be on YouTube

      I originally thought Ms Nandi might be the non Corbyn leadership candidate but somehow she has got stuck on a trivial trans issue and will lose for that reason . Mad times we live in …


      • Kaiser says:

        she has also found trevor phillips “words” troubling, seems to me she is at best another fence sitter unwilling to go a millimeter against the woke orthodoxy.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Nightmare for insurance companies … or maybe the easiest way ever of swerving a claim …


    • StewGreen says:

      The BBC WS Radio doco


  20. pugnazious says:


    Influenza may kill on average 17,000 people per year in England alone…over 28,000 in 2014/15…the Government tells us these figures as reported by ITV…

    ‘Public Health England told ITV News: “The number of flu cases and deaths due to flu-related complications varies each flu season.

    “The average number of deaths in England for the last five seasons, 2014/15 to 2018/19, was 17,000 deaths annually.

    “This ranged from 1,692 deaths last season, 2018/19, to 28,330 deaths in 2014/15.”‘

    So why the fuss about the Coronavirus? Worldwide there have been under 120,000 cases and around 4,000 deaths…most of these in China. In the UK we have had 373 cases and 6 deaths…in the US 27 deaths….though we are assured that the worst is yet to come…..

    We have people attacking the government for not closing the country down as the above speaker is suggesting ala Italy….note most of them are people opposed for one reason or another to the government and are thus weaponising this virus for political advantage…the BBC itself can’t resist adding to the hysteria whilst posing as the authoritative and credible messenger.

    When you look at the numbers you have to think this is pure madness and that the real casualty will be the world economy and the unneeded suffering that will bring…far more than anything the coronavirus itself would bring.

    The WHO says….

    ‘To summarize, COVID-19 spreads less efficiently than flu, transmission does not appear to be driven by people who are not sick, it causes more severe illness than flu, there are not yet any vaccines or therapeutics, and it can be contained – which is why we must do everything we can to contain it. That’s why WHO recommends a comprehensive approach.’

    Not sure that’s true….the British ‘superspreader’ travelling from Singapore had no symptoms…and if you can’t contain flu you can’t contain this…so destroying the world economy might not be the best solution for something there is no real answer to.

    Flu kills hundreds of thousands each year…

    ‘Seasonal flu kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year.’

    And thoughts on that from the US Center for Disease Control?….

    ‘”These findings remind us of the seriousness of flu and that flu prevention should really be a global priority,” study co-author Dr. Joe Bresee, associate director for global health in CDC’s Influenza Division, said in a CDC news release.’

    So battling flu should be a major priority….hmmm…should we shut down the economy each year for a month or two then? And if not why do it for the Coronavirus?

    Why is the BBC ramping this up and continually pushing the idea that this is something apocalyptic when it is little different to flu? Yes there is no vaccine and people haven’t got the supposed community immunity…but all that hasn’t stopped the flu killing nearly 30,000 people in England alone in one year has it? China has suffered around 3,000 deaths, Italy 463 and Iran 291….and that is it for the large numbers in comparison to other countries…all deaths are a tragedy but the over-reaction is madness and in all too many cases cynical political opportunism.

    Trump is already being lined up by the Democrats and their media buddies to be the fall guy for the coronavirus and you can be sure Boris will be in the BBC’s sights with every death….I think we all know the script….deaths and patient surges…austerity, cuts and NHS neglect means the NHS is broken and cannot cope….Tory government killing people.


    • Thoughtful says:

      “So why the fuss about the Coronavirus? Worldwide there have been under 120,000 cases and around 4,000 deaths…most of these in China. ”

      You really do need to stop swallowing the BBC propaganda and associated MSM ! China has seen closer to 250 000 cases and they are clearly and provably falsifying their data !

      Covid 19 has spread to infect more people in a few weeks than SARS did in 8 years ! The current Italian mortality rate is a jaw dropping 39% !

      Of course the government don’t want the public to know this or they’d be running round like headless chickens screaming “we’re all going to die” !


      • pugnazious says:

        Good to have someone on this site with such remarkable sources…the Chinese are hiding the true figures and yet you have got hold of them…well done! The World Health Organisation will adjust its figures if you would but kindly drop them a line putting them right.


        • Thoughtful says:

          No, I never said I had access to the true figures, but the fact that their figures are so wildely different to everyone elses provides the proof of what they are going.
          This is a country which told officials to turn on the lights in empty factories in order to claim a widespread recovery.

          The WHO can’t even take account of these ‘discrepancies’ without calling the Chinese liars, and risking them withdrawing altogether.

          Same with Iran also falsifying their figures, which wouldn’t be surprising.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Thoughtful – where does the 39% mortality rate for Italy come from ? Surely you mean 3.9%? I’ve looked on the worldometer site referenced further down the site and can’t see the 39% rate
        If it’s true we’re all doomed and if it is not it should not be on this site ….

        There was talk of mutation of the virus which could send it either way – more harmful or harmless – is that why you’re claim over 1 in 3 dying ?


        • Thoughtful says:

          It’s on the right of the page ‘closed cases’, those who recovered vs those who didn’t:

          Cases which had an outcome:

          1,004 (61%)
          Recovered / Discharged

          631 (39%)

          The other figure which the media are using is not statistically sound because it gives no indication as to how far their illness has progressed, nor the fact that many of them are going to die which is of course not included in any statistic.

          The only safe measure is the ratio when the desease has run its course, either to recovery, or death.

          Italy BTW is actually pretty good! In France and the USA, the death rate is higher than the rate of recovery !

          12 recovered in France 33 dead

          8 recovered in USA 28 dead

          Shocking figures.


  21. The Sage says:

    It’s strange the way that those working on Newsnight seem to move effortlessly between the Guardian and the BBC and vice versa:

    (Neither Nick Hopkins, who is now The Guardian’s executive editor for news, nor his producer at Newsnight, wanted to speak to me about the story. A spokesperson for the BBC said: “Newsnight has seen no evidence which would cause us to doubt sources or contributors in this report.”)


  22. fakenewswatcher says:

    Pug -One cannot help wondering, given what you have said above, why this is such a HUGE story? Sure, it’s bad news and people need to be informed, but it seems out of all proportion. Beeb delight in LARGE, COLOURFUL graphics of this virus, often many, which look like they’re from the planet Zog, and they’re gonna get you.
    So, if we play at conspiracy theory, what could really be hiding behind it all? Big migrant invasion No2? Going on hardly noticed, in Greece. No little boats any more, arriving in the UK daily from France it seems? Must be a 100% Border Force success story! Not a whisper of anyone crossing the Med.
    On the ‘Moral Maze’ on R4, beeb debated whether the ‘elderly’ should be sacrificed if there was a shortage of NHS beds? We have gathered previously that the ‘elderly’ are pretty much in the way, so perhaps all this fuss underlines that it might be beneficial if they weren’t around? They are usually ‘wealthy’ compared to the youth; the Left in the German Thuringian parliament actually suggested SHOOTING the wealthy, only last week. I kid you not.
    There are lots of ‘migrant children’ coming into the EU and the UK, perhaps they could take over the places of the unwanted elderly?
    Soros is pretty elderly. I wonder if…


    • pugnazious says:

      Yeah…it’s pure madness…best solution surely is to get everyone to be conscious of proper health measures to keep it at bay and for those who are in the vulnerable groups to stay away from situations where they might expect to pick it up….not close down the whole country.

      Not a narrative you hear often if at all as the hysteria is ramped up…not just by the likes of the BBC/Media in general of course who like a good crisis to generate some eye-catching headlines but others cynically trying to use it to their advantage….such as our ‘superspreader’ of lies Dr Pimenta….

      ‘I think the government has prioritised managing the economy over the public-health side of things. If we’re blase about things, it’s easier for the virus to spread.’

      Personally think the government is doing it about right….not going over the top whilst under enormous pressure to go beserk and close the country for a month from the likes of the good Dr….unfortunately I think they will cave with a few more deaths as there is no balanced and measured counter-narrative to the hysteria about every single death. If only we had a national broadaster whose job it was to hold power to account and say uncomfortable truths….dream on.


    • BRISSLES says:

      If they are going to ‘kill’ all us elderly off because we are getting in the way, then they should be mindful of the fact that the Geriatric Wards in hospital will be full of a much lower age group then !!


  23. taffman says:

    \\’Football is ready to have a gay player’//
    Why is Al Beeb so obsessed with homosexuality ?


    • Lefty Wright says:

      Maybe we already have queer footballers but perhaps they just don’t see the sense of informing the punters that they prefer entering via the tradesman’s entrance.


  24. taffman says:

    Rejoiner LimpDems are beginning to use coronavirus in an attempt to block and stop Brexit. Its time that party was consigned to the dustbin.
    Anything on Al Beeb yet ?


  25. pugnazious says:

    A BBC journalist, Vicki Young, who clearly just doen’t listen. The two expert government advisors both explain the government timetable and why they need to carefully judge when it is most effective to impose certain measures and why that is different to how other countries operate…first question from Young….”The Public are asking why aren’t you taking more aggressive approaches that we are seeing in other countries?’.

    The BBC putting the pressure on for more severe measures….why? Great news story of course but also the BBC wants to pressure Boris and make him look like he’s failing to take this seriously and is too slow to act.

    BBC more interested in creating a fake controversy and spinning a line than getting the truth out there and providing the public with the necessary information about the virus and measures which are being taken.

    Curious how the ‘experts’ aren’t good enough for the BBC for some reason…and which now resorts to ‘The public are asking….’….lol.


  26. Thoughtful says:

    For those who want an authoritative source of figures on the coronavirus I suggest this site:



    If you are currently believing the propaganda lies which the media are spreading then this is a wake up call! Italy is currently experiencing a mortality rate of 39% !

    The media are knowingly including the Chinese figures which have been falsified. Reports coming out of the country suggest the number of deaths may be as high as 250 000 !

    And don’t believe that this only affects the elderly, Korea lost nearly 200 soldiers to it, and United States Marines have also lost soldiers to it. No one can suggest that these are anything other than young fit healthy men.

    Imagine a situation where there are ten houses on a street and in four of them all the occupants have perished, that’s the true scale of this.

    I’m hearing and reading on the media things I know to be false, or distorted to take on a different meaning.

    If this virus only killed the 3% the media were talking about there is no way the government would be considering the almost total cesation of an economy.

    People have been talking about the ulterior motivation of the government, they clearly have no knowledge of just how utterly clueless useless and incompetents the Tories really are. Nothing is done by design, it’s all by accident, and inspite of them, rather than a planned action.


    • pugnazious says:

      So what you’re saying is thousands are dying, that the relatives, friends and work colleagues are being ‘persuaded’ to stay silent and nothing has leaked on social media, and that the notoriously anti-Boris media, and mostly not Tory friendly, even the Telegraph would sell its own grandmother for a story like this, is part of a grand conspiracy of silence allowing the government to conceal these deaths? And all coordinated by a clueless and incompetent Tory government?

      And Boris knows how to use a condom.


    • StewGreen says:

      Thoughtful The Italy death rate is NOT 39%

      What happens is dead people appear on the outcome list as soon as they have died,
      If 10 people catch Covid this week
      The weak one might be dead by the end of the week
      but the recovering 9 don’t appear on the recovered list until about 2 weeks later

      Since cases grow
      The next week might have 100 cases
      So at the end of week 2, then 2 of those 100 will be dead
      Making a total of 3 dead

      Week3 1000 cases
      by week 4 20 of them are dead

      So who is on the week4 outcome list
      Dead 1 +2 +20 =23
      Recovered just the 9 from the first week ..the rest from week2,3 would not be certified recovered


  27. tapwatertory says:

    Once in a blue moon the bbc will make a human interest story that doesn’t have a victim.

    There’s no bullshit about gender, race, black hair care products, women’s football or any privelige I’m supposed to have for being a white person in a white country.

    It’s a little story of a little girl who embraces what she is.


    Whoever wrote this piece please take a bow.

    So the rest of the bbc, take note, people are not victims, we get on and make the best of what we’ve got, we don’t wallow in self pity, we don’t need you to tell us the state should wipe our arse.


  28. tapwatertory says:

    About to watch ‘Ian Hislop’s olden days’ on bbc4.

    I’ll watch it with an open mind.

    Let’s how it goes.


    • tapwatertory says:

      This is the culture channel of the bbc.

      There explaining the history of my country, my culture with shite monty python cutaways.

      Dear oh dear.


    • davylars says:

      Well, they found a Druid who managed to get a pop at Margaret Thatcher and the governments austerity program..


  29. Thoughtful says:


    Gets a bit much when people are faking news from a fake news organisation.


    • tapwatertory says:

      If it’s fake news reporting on a fake news organisation does that make it true?


  30. Thoughtful says:

    The coronavirus has just announced that having met Jeremy Corbyn it is going to self isolate for 14 days !


    • tapwatertory says:

      Coronavirus meets the leader of the labour party and wants nothing to do with him.

      My kind of virus.


  31. Guest Who says:

    Rob decries partisan media.


  32. Guest Who says:

    Our local GP has had ‘telephone triage’ for years.


  33. Guest Who says: