Weekend Thread 29 February 2020

The list of subjects which the Biased BBC declares as beyond criticism is lengthening . It used to be the EU , then Islam and now Climate Change has been added . No dissent is allowed . No alternative view expressed . Does The State Broadcaster Represent A Free Country ?

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218 Responses to Weekend Thread 29 February 2020

  1. Guest Who says:

    BBC News on Facebook

    President Donald Trump says more cases of coronavirus are “likely” but urges people not to panic as man dies in Washington state.

    ***

    Looks like an Americastaspertion special.

    Certainly it wound up the TDS faithful.

    What does the bbc want? For people to panic? Is Greta Editor in Chief?

    Also I understand that on a per capita basis the US is so far managing better than many.

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  2. AsISeeIt says:

    We knew this was inevitable:

    ‘A 23-year-old woman who is taking legal action against an NHS gender clinic says she should have been challenged more by medical staff over her decision to transition to a male as a teenager.’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51676020

    “I was allowed to run with this idea that I had, almost like a fantasy, as a teenager…. and it has affected me in the long run as an adult.”

    Any chance the BBC will think to moderate its transgender propaganda aimed at children? I guess not until they get sued.

    (I see vlad got to post about this one before me)

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Me too As. I wrote about this as well, but deleted when I saw it had been already covered.

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  3. AsISeeIt says:

    ‘Wettest February on record’ scream the BBC

    Forgive me if I’m sceptical about this all too convenient claim.

    For one thing this year was a leap year giving February over 3.5% more days of potential rain than 75% of previous Februarys (since records began – as they like to say without telling us when that was).

    Can we be sure the Met have adjusted for that?

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    • Old Goat says:

      They, and NOAA ‘adjust’ just about everything else…

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      AsISeeIt
      Whether the weather be cold
      Or whether the weather be hot
      We’ll weather the weather whatever the weather
      Whether we like it or not.

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  4. Guest Who says:

    “How is it that bombastic anti-Government thug is always on the BB… oh….”

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  5. Guest Who says:

    They know who they like in charge.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Come on Priti, clear the swamp. Called him names and swore at him. Wonder if she called him a ‘bald headed bugger’.

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  6. Guest Who says:

    The BBC Gob Pool is extremely limited.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Pushing Speed-dial#2 on any BBC phone
      … get’s you through to Owen
      Speed-dial#2 gets you Ash

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  7. AsISeeIt says:

    ‘The BBC Gob Pool’ – Precisely

    Those with a sharp eye will note the inevitable : “Live from North London”

    Perhaps offering us an explanation of why we now have no genuinely amusing satirical comdey on tv.

    How could a Spitting Image or early Have I Got News ever emerge from within the bubble or hope to compete with the reality of the daily lefty clown show?

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  8. fakenewswatcher says:

    Priti may, or may not, have been the appropriate minister for the complex and challenging Home Office post (I was a little surprised when she was appointed), but the Permanent Secretary struck me as pompous and self-righteous in the extreme.
    I had to think back to the basics of politics: the elected and then appointed ministers determine policy and are IN CHARGE, while the civil service is there to IMPLEMENT GOVERNMENT POLICY. That is how our democracy works. The civil servants remain in the background. If they have grievances, there will be procedures to follow; rushing to press and staging public press conferences, won’t be one of those. Strictly unseen, and in the background is the location for the civil servants.
    My instinctive feeling is that that is where they should stay.
    Of course, another instinctive feeling overtakes one when observing this little show: it’s going to be another wonderful opportunity for certain people for whom a new avenue has opened up to GET AT BORIS. In fact, that is what it may all be about, since that fellow Cummings shows no sign of leaving gracefully…
    Watch this space.

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    • JimS says:

      According to the BBC’s ‘award winning’ In The Thick Of It ministers have been ‘effing and blinding’ at their staffs for ages so what was the problem?

      Perhaps Yes Minister was more accurate, it was certainly infinitely better written.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      fnw, I’d have prefered Javid to keep his Home job, perhaps with Patel as #2 and to have Jacob Rees-Mogg as Chancellor. I’d have given Health back to Jeremy Hunt if he’d been willing to take it on again.

      You make a good point about the traditional – and correct – operation of State. I was with a friend, a retired Civil Servant, just before the election and before Cummings had become the Lefty bête noire that he has since 12 December. I voiced quite firmly the opinion that our Civil Service was out of control.

      My friend did not raise any objection.

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  9. Jeff says:

    Firstly, I’ve got a confession to make; I’ve got a huge crush on Priti Patel. I think she’s seriously hot!
    Secondly, I’ve had run ins with bosses down the years. Can you believe it some have thought I’m a lazy sod….yes, I know, ridiculous! Some of my old bosses have been real brutes. Industrial language was common place. None of them have been anything like as pretty as Priti.
    None of us really know what happened behind closed doors in the Home Office. I’m guessing Priti is quite strident and bossy and has perhaps, on occasion, used less than flattering terms. She’s got a tough job and she’s trying to get a department to do something it doesn’t want to. The HO is notorious.
    So, I don’t doubt she’s used a bit of “stick” now and again. Who wouldn’t?
    Speaking personally, if I’d been ordered into her inner office and given a severe tongue lashing by the diminutive, but domineering home Secretary, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t have handed in my notice.
    I think I’d have stuck it out.

    Hope I’ve got away with that…

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    • taffman says:

      The Home Office appears to full of snowflakes?
      How many have ever been employed in the real world , the real harsh world of industry?
      Al Beeb employees better brace yourselves because Storm Priti is on its way …………..

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    • Donbob says:

      Priti the dominatrix – now there’s a thought !

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      Jeff
      As long as you would only have stuck it OUT you’re probably safe.

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  10. AnneG says:

    It would appear that Jenny Hill is no longer the correspondent for Germany. She has held the post since 2014. However she is now reporting from Japan.
    Has she arrived early for the Olympics or is the Beeb no longer interested in what the Germans get up to now we have left the EU.
    I mean a ‘man’ can run over 60 people and suddenly there is no story to tell, perhaps she just got bored with nothing going on.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Even the German press has played down that incident, unlike Hanau, where a very tenuous ‘right wing’ link could be made, so a HUGE fuss was made by all.
      Of greater interest is that Sultan Erdogan has unleashed the ‘migrants’ on Greece, despite the useless Merkel having paid him 6 billion Euro not to do so. He has spent years threatening to do so, and has finally decided the time has come to flood Europe with 4 million migrants. After all, he opened a ‘second front’ in Syria, where some of his troops deservedly got killed. This presented a wonderful pretext to open up the Greek ‘migrant’ front.
      Just what he was looking for to renege on his agreement with the talentless pushover, Angela Merkel.
      It is easy to read both Merkel and Erdogan like a book. Really, all I am not certain of is whether Merkel was QUITE HAPPY to have another mass migrant invasion, having known all along Erdogan would go back on his promise. The 6 million was only taxpayer money, after all.!

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        I should add that beeb’s Orla Guerin interviewed one ‘migrant’ in the general chaos on the Greek border, and he said his destination was LONDON.
        Orla had made certain that the phrases ‘poor babe’ and ‘tear gas’ were directly linked in her report, which would have appealed to Comrade Merkel. There was much talk of helpless civilians having had to sleep in the freezing cold, etc etc.
        The migrants muttered something about being entitled to ‘a better life’ in the Orla ‘interview’, and national borders and immigration procedures were obviously of little interest to them. Since Comrade Merkel has been telling them exactly that, while PRETENDING to defend EU borders by bribing Erdogan, we should not be surprised at the assault on Greek borders.
        A little Communist/Islamic double dealing from team Merkel/Erdogan that has now paid off handsomely? Or would that be stretching things a little too far?
        For Madam and Sultan, it seems it’s all come together?

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      • G says:

        FNW,
        “After all, he opened a ‘second front’ in Syria, where some of his troops deservedly got killed.”
        Further evidence of the World turning upside down: Irrespective of views on Assad, Erdogan has demanded that the Syrians stop attacking his troops while they invade the former’s country. Hopefully the Russians will engage the Turks (with their missiles purchased from Russia). That would be a spectacle. I know where my bet would go.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Funny how that car incident has been treated just like that bus shooting. My brain has the location as Lubeck. Have I remembered that correctly? We never heard much about that shooting after the intial report and the BBC have not mentioned any trial proceedings.

        The BBC’s memory black hole rivals the one that helped produce that massive explosion, reported last week but occurring long ago. Speed of light and all that being what it is.

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  11. G says:

    I see the US has now tied up a deal with the taliban.
    For a Dalek view of this development, see here:

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    • Fedup2 says:

      G
      The Americans used Afgee to get back in the Great Game but apart from annoying the Russians , Iranians and pakis what gain is there.
      The Muslims plan their attacks on the West more locally that Bin Laden and co .

      Afgee isn’t really a country and its only export seems to be heroin .

      If the muj go all Stone Age NATO should stay out of it and concentrate on closing our own borders – even if a bit late. We’d also say taxpayers money being given to corrupt NGOs and the like …

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  12. Dover Sentry says:

    Boris is fighting on three fronts:

    EU

    Home Office

    BBC

    The year 2020 is going to be significant for us. I wish him luck.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Dover, only three fronts?

      What about 4. Covid-19 and its wider effects, 5. the Department of the Environment, 6. a new CotE and looming Budget, and, 7. himself.

      I’m not surprised Dominic Cummings has no hair.

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  13. pugnazious says:

    One way to make the BBC more accountable and representative would be to make it tender for the right to be ‘The BBC’ and to rake in the licence fee. Why should it be the default organisation that gets that right?

    The right to be Britain’s Public Service Broadcaster should surely be open to all to apply for…any Media organisation should be able to make that application putting forward how they will impartially, accurately and truthfully portray the news and present programming that isn’t mere messaging for one view-point as is almost 100% of the time on the current BBC where the news is seen as subjective and presented with a definite slant and general programming is just a vehicle for political and social messaging.

    The BBC should no longer be the default receiver of the right to be our national broadcaster and define itself as the only honest arbiter of truth and morality as it does now with highly damaging consequences.

    Let’s put the ‘BBC’ up for tender.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      pug, nice idea. Take that to the full limit: the BBC pays us to listen and to watch.

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  14. AsISeeIt says:

    This time the BBC can’t help but give us an Eiffel of what’s happening in Paris

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-51681712/paris-gare-de-lyon-major-fire-forces-station-evacuation

    ‘A large fire has broken out at a major Paris train station, with police reporting “unacceptable incidents” ahead of a nearby concert.’

    ‘The Gare de Lyon station was evacuated by police, who say the fire is now under control. Footage showed scooters and other vehicles alight.’

    ‘Earlier, political opponents of the DR Congo government had called for musician Fally Ipupa’s performance to be disrupted.’

    [So what we are hearing here is more of a rumble from the jungle than a Parisian serenade]

    ‘Protests at the event had been banned, local media report.’

    [Oh well, doubt we’ll hear much more about it]

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit
      Maybe if the gard du nord had been hit – which for BBC drones must be a second home after Brussels – the first lounge must be a second home .

      As an aside – I’ve just finished the section in Tim Shipmans account of the brexit referendum campaign – with reference to coverage by the BBC

      I must be living in a parallel universe because the overall claim is that the BBC was balanced .

      Perhaps Mr Shipman didn’t watch the BBC during the time but if he’d have gone to the archives of this site I think he’d have got a fairer account of the use of project fear et al .
      It’s not quite history ( yet ) but I get the feeling the Brexit referendum period is going to be written by the ‘ losers’ presumably for the time they try to rejoin . Hopefully – like the BBC – the EU won’t be in its current form – or hopefully in any ‘ form ‘ at all .

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  15. pugnazious says:

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    A Greater Germany or a Greta Climate Change….two sides of the same coin.

    As the BBC cheerleads the climate youth movement and presents 7 year olds as experts on economic policy you might consider what happened last time the ‘Youth’ were co-opted into being the messengers for change as the pionieers of a radical way forward…brainwashed and groomed to be extremists, the future leaders, politicians and people with control and influence…the future captured by capturing the minds of the Youth…a trick both the Communists and the Nazis adopted with enthusiasm and now taken up by the climate change radicals with a bit of help from the BBC which itself enthusiastically promotes the terrorists of Extinction Rebellion who not only aim to destroy capitalism but to put on trial and then shoot whomever they decide are ‘climate criminals’….already we have the start of this…just think of the recent judgement on Heathrow where climate comes before all else…how long before actual people are put on trial for failing to ‘consider the environment’…and when the extremists consolidate power….jail time and worse awaits….the coldwar gulags replaced by the climate gulags where re-education is on the agenda.

    Where is the BBC concern about this marxist- eco- terrorism?

    ‘Police have clashed with a group of anti-capitalist activists who targeted the Bank of England and London Stock Exchange today.

    Dozens of people, some wearing masks and scarfs to cover their faces, were seen being restrained and told to ‘move back’ by officers.

    The two Green Anti-Capitalist Front events happened during their ‘Week of Action’, with them telling supporters online that ‘it’s time to fight back for the planet.”
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    • Banania says:

      Was it intentional that Hitler’s swastika was the wrong way round? (Or so it seemed to me.)

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  16. BRISSLES says:

    I’m giving you a heads up, and a chance to stock up on the booze, in preparation for Thursday night.

    A series is starting on BBC1 called Noughts and Crosses. A story about a dystopian world where black people (Crosses) rule, and their white neighbours (Noughts) are the underclass.

    Fair enough, but this is what made me choke on my cuppa, in the last episode in a cameo role is …………….. Stormzy !!! well even I couldn’t stomach that.

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    • pugnazious says:

      Trouble is that’s the future as whites become a minority and they are the target of persecution and become the hunted…be very afraid.

      Male and pale…destined to fail

      It’s preordained in the BBC script..ures.

      Long been predicted…

      Bertrand Russell…

      ‘The white population of the world will soon cease to increase. The Asiatic races will be longer, and the negroes still longer, before their birth rate falls sufficiently to make their numbers stable without help of war and pestilence…. Until that happens, the benefits aimed at by socialism can only be partially realized, and the less prolific races will have to defend themselves against the more prolific by methods which are disgusting even if they are necessary. ––The Prospects of Individual Civilization, 1923’

      The Guardian in a moment of honesty…

      ‘The truth is that immigration was not inevitable on the scale on which it took place, and that its effects have ranged from the pleasing – more ethnic food – to the positive – more cultural diversity – to the truly terrible – race riots, social tension, terrorist attacks. ‘

      Andrew Marr in a moment of honesty…

      ‘Western democracies are struggling, the social cohesion on which our political consensus is founded has shattered giving way to ideological diversity and undermining our national sense of belonging….we are less defined by economics but more by identity.
      “Waves of migration and globalised culture washed among us, eroding our sense of self… but the self-confidently multi-ethnic, liberal, urban class… barely noticed.” ‘

      Churchill in a time before free speech became a crime…though of course the BBC did ban him from the airwaves for recklessly and provocatively warning about the dangers of Hitler….guess they’ve learnt nothing since then…

      ‘No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”’

      Civilisation is falling….because the liberal elite opened the gates to the ‘barbarians’.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Pug
        Maybe we ll have to get ready to apply to be refugees trying to get into America . At least they have a constitution to protect them whereas we have nothing .

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      BRISSELS – I disagree when you say ‘fair enough’, although Stormzy would also make me choke on my cuppa.
      I refer you to my earlier entry on what has been happening to white farmers in SA since the ANC took over in 1994! Mass murder and torture on an epic scale, ignored by ‘Western’ liberal (?) media. Here is a good example of what REALLY happens, as the infrastructure of the nation collapses (it only took them 25 years to destroy what had been built up over 350).
      Oh yes, there is a little covering gloss from the recent cricket tour, but -beneath the surface- what you call ‘fair enough’ is anything but. In SA you can see the truth and nothing but the truth, so we don’t need BBC reverse propaganda! Apparently ‘load shedding’ (a euphemism for no electricity) can now extend over more than twelve hours. Many streets have sewerage flowing through them. In fact, it has become dangerous to drink water in some towns, because of contamination with sewerage.
      It is quite OK to dance about, even in parliament, explicitly calling for the killing of whites, and grabbing their land. (Because, of course, it is ‘black’ land – a complete distortion of history.) I know someone who is leaving the beautiful city of Cape Town for the States, because of what it has been become. We won’t even speak of crime capital of the world, Johannesburg.
      I do wonder whether the average, long-suffering black person has benefitted at all from ‘black rule’, because a new black elite of ANC/EFF ‘cadres’ have been ‘deployed’ to grab the goodies (remember Mugabe’s ZANU ‘war veterans’ in Zimbabwe?) It is THEY who benefit.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        F. Perhaps it was a bad use of words, but my ‘fair enough’ didn’t mean I agree with the concept, but that the drama was made at all.

        With reference to the events in S.A I do remember that all too well, in fact, there was an image photographed at the time that has, and will, stay with me forever. A white farmer was slaughtered , and his body covered with a blue plastic tarpaulin. Curled up by his body was his little white and tan Jack Russell, who, despite all attempts, refused to leave his masters body.

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        • fakenewswatcher says:

          BRISSELS – Understood. Really, it was the thought of the beeb drama, which got me going. Sorry, if a bit carried away.
          I am interested in SA, as it is the best example of what actually happens when a white government hands over a sophisticated modern state to a black (‘socialist’) government. I emphasize socialism, as a non-socialist black majority government may well have had the good sense not to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
          It differs from, say, Zimbabwe, in that a large vibrant economy with large ‘first world’ cities was ‘handed over’ to black (again ‘socialist’) governance.
          In fact, the people who took over and started looting on a grand scale were, unsurprisingly, the politicians. Incompetence and corruption appear to be hallmarks of the ANC ‘cadres’, who really needed to be nothing more than ANC cadres to take over top jobs.
          The real majority, not being ANC ‘cadres’ haven’t -I suspect- got much of a look in.
          As for the crime – well, that is another whole story of its own, and a very sad one indeed…
          I don’t have to tell you who runs the police and the armed forces, I dare say.

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    • vlad says:

      Dystopian indeed.

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  17. G says:

    Just listening to Fatty Lardell at 1300 R4. Wow! the BBC and their acolytes really have it in for Priti Patel don’t they? Massive whitewash ‘X’ marks the spot on her back. So, the order of the day is to dismiss objectivity and focus on hearsay and speculation all part of the daily attacks on the Government. Loads of interviews with past senior “hideously white” Civil Servants. Problem is, most of the Civil Service is made up with foreigners as has been apparent for some decades now. Me? I say, ‘Go for it Priti’ reformation of the CS is long overdue. A good clear out needed, as the PoTus says, “Drain the Swamp”.
    By the way, the Government is telling the public that washing hands frequently is the answer to avoid Covid-19. Remember a earlier ‘bit of advice’ to the public? – go to the space under the stairs or under the kitchen table to avoid the Russian H Bombs? That’s consistency for you.
    This is the best source of info on YT:

    Seems a sliding scale of likely death with my group (70 – 79 years) faring just slightly better than the 80+.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Clear out the Home Office , the FCO , close the ministry of overseas giveaways – purge Defence and square up the treasury .

      I heard the former chancellor trying to damage his party by claiming he was going to cut income tax .

      No points for loyalty for him and puts his successor in a bad position .
      On reflection it might have been better to put of the budget until the extent of the Chinese warfare bug ? Became quantifiable …

      I reckon it will be a small booze and fags budget on that basis

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Fed – Good Thinking! I suspect from our massive, overstuffed H.o.Lords that elements of the Civil Service are equally overstaffed.
        There then arises the question of whether all the staff are properly qualified, or whether we have succumbed to ‘affirmative action’ appointments, where only one thing counts, and it’s NOT competence to do the job.
        Not that our HO Permanent Secretary was a good advertisement for the job, having found it necessary to call a press conference and air dirty linen in public, while -at the same time- attempting to overthrow the minister in charge.
        He MUST have known that there is such a thing as a ‘Disciplinary and Grievance Procedure’ guide, since HE was in charge of it as the ‘line manager’ in that department. After that, there will have been other channels, dear boy. And going along the channels is (for better or worse) is how the Public Service is supposed to work!

        His little attempt at a ‘mini-coup’ was certainly NOT the way to go, however unsatisfactory he found his Minister. I wonder, from his approach, whether he is a Blair appointment, since such a public display of insurrection can only have opened the door for Labour assaults! He will have known that. The beeb and the LKs of this world will be rubbing their hands in glee! I can see Chris Mason, John Pienaar, Shaun Ley and Norman Smith hard at work as well, to mention but a few…
        “Wow, look what has dropped into our laps!”
        Shades of Trump and his Civil Service all the way.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Fake
          If the budget is a ‘booze and fags ‘ one – perhaps sabotaged by Treasury Civil Servants the BBC will be going for the ‘incompetent ‘ tag again – which is the main attack line of the ‘disloyal unofficial opposition ‘ that is the BBC now .

          I just hope that the ‘non engagement ‘ policy between ministers and BBC is maintained .

          For bojo – I think ‘events ‘ have put him in a ‘no win ‘ place led by events well beyond anyones’ control .

          There are a few easy wins which could be done now – such as covering the country with hand washing dispensers if clean hands is as important feature of slowing the spread of the bug – buses, trains , planes and all public spaces .

          But I’m thinking the policy is to hold breath and hope spring will stop it … as if …

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          • Van Helsing says:

            Fed, there are several things that HMG could – and should – do right now if they want contain the virus.

            Firstly, they have to start acting rather than reacting – the incubation period means that the virus will always have a 14 day or so head start if you simply take action on the basis of what has happened. In order words, and with due apology to old westerns, it needs to be headed off at the pass.

            Secondly, public health has to overrule patient confidentiality, particularly in cases where the chain of transmission can’t be identified. It would be much easier to trace contacts (and likely carriers) if details were given as to where each patient lives and works along with details of his or her movements over the last 10-14 days. People who may have been infected or who may have infected said patient would therefore be able to report to the NHS rather than waiting for public health staff to find them. Time saved = less people infected.

            Thirdly, encourage employers to allow staff to work from home rather than travel to work.

            Fourthly, prohibit large-scale public gatherings. Yes, its a draconian measure but it will cut the risk of mass infection.

            As for cost implications, taking a hit now might well mean avoiding a bigger one slightly further down the line. It’s not rocket science.

            As for the warmer weather that will be with us in a couple of months, there’s a reasonable chance that it will make it harder for the virus to be spread. Cut the infection rate to under 1:1 and the spread of the virus will engage reverse gear.

            China is successfully combating the spread of the virus – even in Wuhan, where the rate of new cases is about 12% of its peak of a few weeks ago. IF our leaders and senior public health officials are even remotely competent then the western world can do likewise.

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            • Fedup2 says:

              Van
              Can the Chinese stats be relied on now ?

              I can’t see the idea of stopping mass groupings being something the government will try – but I suppose the new religion of football can be played without spectators . Public transport is more problematic – even after 7/7 the tube was back running the following day .

              Maybe increased personal hygiene measures will help . Maybe there’ll be something in the budget next week. Needs to be .

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              • Van Helsing says:

                I think the Chinese figures are probably now in the right ballpark. The same can’t, alas, be said for those from Iran.

                There are specific reasons why S. Korea has been so hard hit. I think they’ll get it under control but it’ll take a few weeks before the picture looks better.

                Italy has taken some sensible measures, but it’s too soon to gauge their effectiveness.

                The thing about this virus is that it can’t spread of it’s own volition – it needs us to spread it. If we take the right measures then we can stop it or at least slow its spread till the cavalry arrives. The outcome is literally in our hands.

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                • Fedup2 says:

                  Ok thank you Van – perhaps someone will come up with a vaccine . I used to use the London tube every day . I’m really glad I don’t any more . I have a somewhat weakened immune system so I’m a good target for the bug ….

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                  • Van Helsing says:

                    There will be a vaccine, Fed. A Chinese scientist has already successfully self-tested one for side effects, and other teams across the globe are just about ready to start testing vaccines they’ve developed.

                    Until it becomes available, our weapons are good leadership, good decisions and good hygiene. And the weather may well become a strong ally in a few weeks time.

                    Stay healthy.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          fnw, he’s a newb at Home: Wiki here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Rutnam. Wiki – usual disclaimers. Spent a period at Transport and effectively in charge of the Virgin debacle which from memory cost the taxpayer £50million. Effectively in charge at Home during Windrush. How much will the compo cost the taxpayer for that?

          Expensive bloke. (As far as taxpayer is concerned.)

          Sir Pip should have handed back his K on the way out the door. It could have been auctioned off to set against our losses.

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    • pugnazious says:

      Apparently there have been nearly 3,000 deaths worldwide so far from Coronavirus…

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

      In 2017/2018 there were 26,408 deaths due to flu in England…of that 22,237 were in the over 65 age group.

      Click to access Surveillance_of_influenza_and_other_respiratory_viruses_in_the_UK_2018_to_2019-FINAL.pdf

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        There have been more worldwide deaths from Islam.

        By the way, I’m Coronaphobic. But my wife loves the drink. Women, eh?

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  18. Nibor says:

    Anyone who’s had dealings with senior civil servants knows that things should be thrown at them , and worse .

    They do have loyalty . They say they are loyal to the government and the minister , but they are not . They have loyalty only to the system of civil service that they swim in .Drain the Swamp .

    Yes Minister is like a training video to them .

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Nibor
      I think the advert Dom Cummings put out asking for ‘fresh heads ‘ really hurt the top of the Civil Service . If you’ve listened to reps of “the First Division” club over the years the sense of entitlement in the face of repeated failures of contracting and major projects makes for incredulity –

      However the tendency with which civil servants ‘retire ‘ from their job and then work for the opposition is institutional – eg Tax inspectors going off to work for accountancy firms – which has always been a joke within the tax world …

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  19. StewGreen says:

    @Taffman asked for proof of BBC RIGHTWING bias
    ..Interesting that the “Boris controlled BBC”
    was the first place Philip Rutnam called
    .. to do his ANTI-TORY press conference

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  20. fakenewswatcher says:

    Seems the Greeks aren’t as keen to have their country overrun by “migrants” on their way to Germany (or ‘London’, as one professed)as Merkel and Erdogan had hoped.
    They had the cheek to position police at their border, put up barbed wire, and employ tear gas, where necessary.
    The ‘international community’ won’t be pleased.
    I have a feeling the Greeks may have to bring in their army. For one thing, this is another (cleverly disguised and long-planned) Turkish invasion; for another, dozens of outraged NGOs and media outlets will be yelling for ‘migrants’ to be let in.
    Meanwhile, Orla will -I’m sure- keep us fully briefed on Greek police’ brutality’.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      One thing that surprises me (NOT) is how the super-rich Gulf states, Islamic to boot, show no enthusiasm for taking any of these largely Islamic ‘refugees’, and how these refugees want to go to Europe and ‘London’, instead of to their religious nearest and dearest. The super-rich Gulf states could easily afford to accommodate this ‘migrant’ flow, as they don’t know what to do with all their money as it is!
      So, what’s really going on?

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      • Lefty Wright says:

        fakenewswatcher
        It has nothing to do with persecuted refugees but has everything to do with the eventual Islamization of Europe and with a lot of help from our in house traitors, it is on course to succeed. Mr Gaddafi made no secret of this. We are being invaded and we’ll all come to very much regret it.

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  21. JimS says:

    Songs of Praise was in preaching mode today.

    Christianity?

    Don’t be daft, this is the BBC! Veganism! A ‘lady of colour’ gives people the ‘facts’ then lets people decide.

    Reminds me of the Dave Allen joke about the argument between a priest and a minister: “You worship God in your way and I will worship Him in His”.

    Once the BBC has an ‘impartial’ message to push they work it in everywhere.

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  22. StewGreen says:

    New vid with long-standing BBC Journalist Robin Aitken MBE.
    Robin is the author of “Can We Trust the BBC?” And “The Noble Liar”, in which he examines why and how the BBC is biased against conservatism.

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  23. Dover Sentry says:

    Vegans.

    There was a post on Facebook from a woman raving about a nearby vegan street market. Her profile stated that drinking milk was depriving a calf. She also hated Trump and Brexit voters. Guess where she stood as regards Climate Change?

    I didn’t read any further.

    There are millions of these loons out there 🙁

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  24. G says:

    “BBC Insider Exposes BBC Bias & Lack of Diversity of Opinion. Out of Touch BBC is Its Own Worst Enemy”
    Robert Aitkin. One word comes to mind: Flaccid.

    Analogy: The Hokey Pokey.
    “Put your right foot in, take your right foot out. Put your right foot in, and you shake it all about. Do the Hokey Pokey and you turn yourself around, that’s what it’s all about!”
    Aitkin: He’s still with the BBC in heart. His ‘criticisms’ make him half blind.
    Don’t bother.

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    • StewGreen says:

      ?? 30m0s He says “I’ve always argued for reform, but now I am not sure that is tenable”

      Before that he talks about the Today Show bringing on their own demise
      and that is hardly surprising Tories won’ appear on it.
      He says Subscription is difficult to implement.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Stew – I still like the reasoning which goes

        ‘ if the BBC is that great – and has a worldwide reputation – subscription will open up huge amounts of income from all those snowflakes eager for its ‘ product ‘
        The ‘loss’ of income from the end of compulsory funding will easily be exceeded by all that cash coming in from people choosing to take BBC product . So the amount and quality of programmes can be increased as a result .

        Now this isn’t my position because I see the foundations of the BBC built on snowflake propaganda which will melt in the heat of open completion from those competitors which are not tied down by committees of social justice box tickers more interested in getting their ‘cause’ on screen than providing decent watchable output .

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    • Fedup2 says:

      G
      A very long 44 minutes . I didn’t get beyond 12 minutes as it pondered too much .

      Mr Aitkin described much of the stuff we mention here every day .

      What I was waiting for was some kind of description of any way the BBC could roll back the propaganda onslaught with which the tax payer is subjected all the time every day .

      The new Lord Hall will just be a clone so the remedy will be external surgery which hopefully anaesthetises the BBC so that it dies on the table .

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    • StewGreen says:

      I listened mostly at double speed
      Around minute 15 he talks about Laura K doing an election interview with Boris with contempt
      and gave the office of PM no respect

      a few minutes later he describes how a BBC drama exec called him to ask he’d talk to her writers about their groupthink.
      That although the BBC preaches DIVERSITY her writers all wrote with the same worldview
      .. thus every character who is a Tory ends up portrayed as being a bastard

      He talked about the way R4Today sets up Tory politician interviews
      which means first the minister speaks and then the BBC correspondent is brought on to INTERPRET what the minister meant ..and acts as a defacto lefty pundit, with a FINAL say
      cos the minister is not allowed to a say after the beeboid has done the interpretation.

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      • StewGreen says:

        I didn’t yet find video of that Boris interview.
        but here’s an article by LK where she seems contemptuous of Boris.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Craig really liked the video and has done an article
      http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2020/03/so-what-robin-aitkens-saying-is.html

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  25. StewGreen says:

    SkyNewsAust host speaks about the “offence industry”

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    • StewGreen says:

      More on Australian free speech
      ..When women explode and do violence against their own family
      people often ask “was she driven too far ?”
      So when an Australian father killed his family
      a police officer asked that question.
      An Australian men’s rights campaigner tweeted his point in quotation marks
      and said we shouldn’t judge without full evidence.

      Trouble is the wokemob were already looking for something to beat her with cos she’d just won an MBE for her lifetime of equality work and she is not a lefty. So they stoked up a campaign to strip her of her honour cos of that ONE tweet.
      The Senate was having an a secret debate about it, which was only exposed when the Australian equivalent of UKIP stood up and forced a vote.
      And they were the only ones who voted that her tweet was free speech.
      Today a SkyNewsAust presenter dared to condemn the entire rest of the Senate

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  26. MarkyMark says:

    Greece decide that more Islamic restaurants are required – Erdogan accepts the offer.

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  27. Tabs says:

    BBC News channel at 17:35 showed the Syrian/Afghan migrants being tear gassed by Greek police on the Greece/Turkey border. BBC reporter managed to find a father with a 1 year old where he claims “they were firing tear gas at us. My child could have died”.

    The interesting bit was near the end where the video showed muliple migrants taking a run up and starting to throw things but the editing cut out the actual throwing. The final few seconds showed stones and bricks on the ground that had been thrown at the police.

    Typical BBC showing the victim side of the migrants whilst editing out their violence side.

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  28. StewGreen says:

    Countryfile doing non country stuff
    alleges that many people lack access to affordable fruit and veg
    “It’s a struggle”

    BS I see sell-by date fruit and veg all the time
    And when there is wild fruit on footpaths I rarely see people picking it.

    Tom heap : “potatoes here cost 55p/kilo that is half the price of a shop”
    I actually see discounted spuds cheaper than that most of the year
    (new potatoes are a different thing)

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    • StewGreen says:

      Next item : mental health child poet who is an eco activist
      ..getting single use plastics BANNED from his school.

         6 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        I scanned Countryfile tweets
        a handful cared about foodbanks

        But eco-autistic boy item got hundreds of fan tweets

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    • maxincony says:

      StewGreen,

      Countryfile doing non country stuff

      Poor people in isolated villages = “non country stuff”.

      alleges that many people lack access to affordable fruit and veg
      ‘It’s a struggle’

      BS I see sell-by date fruit and veg all the time

      How many children do you have?
      How much rent do you pay per week?
      How do you buy “sell-by date fruit and veg’” when you have no money?

      And when there is wild fruit on footpaths I rarely see people picking it.

      Yeah, it’s a mystery why people can’t just survive on blackberries in the middle of February.

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      • StewGreen says:

        @Maxi Here in the UK I pickup edible roadkill pheasant most weeks this time of year.

        In Indonesia my rent is £10/week including all bills like leccy/water/internet.

        I also buy extra meat .. cos that is a way at getting back at insincere trolls who waste my time

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  29. Dover Sentry says:

    Regarding Turkey releasing invaders into Europe.

    Merkel has paid Turkey billions to look after these invaders.

    Turkey has realised that more money can be paid.

    If not, Turkish tanks will flatten the barriers.

    Then what?

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  30. fakenewswatcher says:

    Surprise: Annalena Baerbock, one of the top German Greens, wants the ‘refugees’, trying to cross the Greek border from Turkey, to be assisted to come to Germany.
    Thick? Just a bit. Perhaps a warning to Brits to keep well away from our own Greens, who are fortunately not as powerful as those in Germany at this stage?
    Another non-surprise: Merkel is hoping to save her CDU from oblivion by entering into an alliance with the Greens in Germany. Certainly a good match.

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  31. Up2snuff says:

    The BBC appear to be keen to try every perversion of ‘normality’ going: https://www.bbc.co.uk/ on r/h side, near top of page under ‘More top stories’.

    Wonder how they equate that freedom with ‘Lack of male role models’ and ‘Absent baby-fathers’ and the consequent extra cost to our society?

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  32. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Anyone watch ‘The Big Questions’

    The first half hour was all about how to solve the homeless problem and stopping people living on the streets.

    The ‘debate’ consisted of everybody agreeing with each other and virtue signalling for the whole half hour, clapping everything as they all virtuously agreed with each other.

    Their solution was (of course it was) building lots more housing.
    We need hundreds of thousands more houses every year they said.
    Build on the green belt they said.
    No mention of flood plains, concreting over drainage meadows and countryside.
    Just build build build.
    Flooding……..never got mentioned.

    Not one of the eighty or so in the ‘selected’ audience mentioned the one true fact that controlled everything to do with not having enough housing for the population.
    Nobody mentioned the quarter million net arrivals every year, each one needing somewhere to live.

    Don’t know if I’m going to bother watching part two.
    Something about wimmin needing to fight for their rights.

    Somebody should tell the wokes who produce this show that there needs to be opposing arguments and not just person after person agreeing and saying all the ‘right on’ usual lefty dogma.

    * I lasted about 4 minutes into the whingeing wimmin before deleting the lot.

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  33. Nibor says:

    BBC and liberal/left want to protect two great institutions that are traditionally seen as the best of British and admired all round the world . Without these institutions we would be worse off and abolishing/changing them is fraught with danger .

    The Monarchy ? The Church ? The MCC ? Eton ? The Hunts ? The armed services ? The High Street ? The pubs ?

    No . The BBC itself and the civil service . Those are the institutions that the Gramscian infested BBC and its liberal/left allies want protected .

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  34. Dover Sentry says:

    The Woke BBC has a problem.

    Javid the Home Sec was replaced by a BAME.

    Home Office ‘boss’ was ejected by a BAME.

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  35. StewGreen says:

    8:40pm BBC1 very deep voiced “lady” with a model canal boat
    on Antiques Road Show

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    • Woolwich says:

      Yes, I was intrigued by her too but couldn’t say either way.
      In fairness though, I did find last night’s Antiques Roadshow to be horrendously white.

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  36. StewGreen says:

    BBC1 9pm prog starts : character seems to be an older married woman looking for a lesbian partner.
    the selected one is a married teacher at her school 15 years younger

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