Midweek Thread 29 January 2020

Prediction – The Biased Far Left BBC will ,from Friday , be supporting the interests of a foreign power against those of the UK . Along with friends in the Civil Service and metro bubble it will do all it can to undermine our success outside the EU.Please let this prediction be wrong .

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396 Responses to Midweek Thread 29 January 2020

  1. StewGreen says:

    FakeNews : :Tommy TRIAL ENDS BY ERROR.
    Judge derides prosecution for ‘abject failure’ to conduct case properly as key witness goes on holiday by mistake
    Judge awards Tommy full travel expenses.

    That’s fakenews cos actually that happened to 5 XR direct action people.

    Bystanders would ask why such errors always work in the favour of libmob
    and not in favour of people who oppose libmob ?

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  2. StewGreen says:

    4:30pm
    R4 Laurie is doing a special on gays and their historic secret language Polari
    https://www.twitter.com/Radio4ta/status/1222478658566283269

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    • StewGreen says:

      Some of the recent times R4 also discussed Polari
      – Jun 24, 2019 #Polari Prof Paul Baker spoke about his new book on the subject with @BBCMarkMardell The World This Weekend.
      – Aug 29, 2017 ‘Public Indecency: Queer Art in Britain’ features Polari expert @jezdolan chatting to @SimonCallow
      – Aug 6, 2017 Take a crash course in Polari courtesy of Paul O’Grady and @BenInLDN #GayBritannia
      – Jul 25, 2017 The history of Polari:
      – Feb 4, 2017 8:31 in, bbc report on #polari in CofE service Today
      – Aug 27, 2014 Word of mouth

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    • Scronker says:

      Laurie Taylor knows nowt!
      We all learnt Polari 50-odd years go whilst listening to Julian and Sandy on Round The Horne on the BBC. As Julian would say “Hello Mr. Horne. I’m Julian and this is my friend Sandy. How jolly to bona your jolly old eke!” ie.” How good to see your jolly old face.”

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  3. Fedup2 says:

    Half an eye on the Parliament channel has a live ‘goodbye’ form the European Parliament – plenty of sad speeches from riders on the gravy train . In English . It’s a pity we can’t take our language back from those scoundrels . Let them use German or French since they’ll be in complete control now – and it will re I force the foreignness of the ReichEU .

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  4. s.trubble says:

    Decriminalisation of the Licence Tax will add a 0 to that 450 number.

    Subscription would probably double that again still leaving 9000 of the rascals!

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  5. digg says:

    A new report claims that Climate Change is causing gender Violence against Women.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/29/climate-breakdown-is-increasing-violence-against-women

    The report was lead-authored by a woman called Cate Owren who works for the “IUCN’s Gender Environment Resource Centre”

    (IUCN = International Union for Conservation of Nature)

    Prior to shifting activist hobbies toward being her professional focus, she was a member of a New York City theater company with whom she performed and produced for 10 years.

    A look at their website…

    https://genderandenvironment.org/people/cate-owren/

    Makes me wonder how many people there actually are out there being plonked into probably lucrative jobs with all these hazy organisations connected to saving the World – and who is funding all this stuff!

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    • Swelter says:

      These people and their claims are getting crazier and crazier. I know I wont get, it but some informed public debate would be a refreshing change. So this stuff for a May morning wont go unchallenged.

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  6. Guest Who says:

    Tragic. However, really ‘news’? And is the message for the weak to steer clear or realise Amazing Primo delivers?

       10 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      It’s tweeted cos it’s a link to local radio prog they made
      .. rather than a news story.

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      • Mrs Kitty says:

        No I’m sorry, I would be ashamed if any child of mine was using heroin. Celebrating his use of a drug.

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  7. StewGreen says:

    BBC Women giving advice and support to Talk Talk executive taking company to tribunal over equal pay claim

    The claim is the poor cyber security executive woman was only paid £110K
    and other group executives were paid more.

    As ever was she paid less cos she was a woman
    .. or cos she was a worse negotiator ?

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  8. StewGreen says:

    The Times page 11, has two different black gang murder stories.

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  9. digg says:

    More Guardian Climate bell-ringing and the culprit?

    Milk!

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jan/28/what-plant-milk-should-i-drink-almond-killing-bees-aoe

    The odds are that most people in the UK live within 50 miles of the cow that produced their milk and would continue to produce it whether they bought it or not.

    Milk from the Cow arrives pretty much without any further hassle or manufacturing. But it’s so much better to drink milk-alike made from products shipped from all over the globe and then re-manufactured to look like as much like real milk as possible!

    They are just unhinged!

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Oxford ENGLISH Dictionary adds 29 NIGERIAN words
    list

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – when you put that up I instantly wondered what those Nigerian words are -?

      Fraud
      Bank account number
      Sort code
      PIN number
      Lottery winner
      Scam

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    • Guest Who says:

      So long as none were appropriated, culturally, in the process… of adopting words… to an English… Dictionary.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      I hope the BBC have contributed to this enrichment of the English language through their highly-acclaimed Pidgin website:
      https://www.bbc.com/pidgin

         5 likes

  11. StewGreen says:

    Youtube has banned The Iranian government London based propaganda station Press TV
    … It provided a platform and salary to people like Corbyn

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  12. StewGreen says:

    Grenfell cladding
    The suppliers and installation contractors are saying in court that they always said that ACM cladding is not fire resistant
    … so it is the fault of the buyer who installed without extra fire protection measures.

       19 likes

  13. Guest Who says:

    My PC is restoring data fir two days. So I have social media for company.

    And entertainment.

       14 likes

  14. Guest Who says:

    Trying to think back to when the Guido and Mason line met…

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  15. Terminal Moraine says:

    Interesting timing — with the asylum seeker grooming gang being hushed up in Scotland this week (to add to Manchester, Rotherham etc) the UNHCR are pushing a tweet at me featuring a Hollywood celeb and a Syrian refugee now making Yorkshire cheese.

    My agenda alarm is ringing.

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  16. Richard Pinder says:

    Have just recorded Nigel Farage’s last ever speech in the European Parliament. Was live on BBC Parliament Freeview channel 232. Pro-European MEP’s now expressing hatred for small people outside of Europe.

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  17. StewGreen says:

    Amol has brought James OB to discuss the new Times online radio station
    he said he’s not worried
    claims Emma Barnett is his worst competition
    and that Talk Radio isn’t
    … that idea is contradicted every day on Twitter at 10am as people announce they are changing over from LBC to TRadio

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Stew: “claims Emma Barnett is his worst competition”

      I’d agree that JOB and Barnett provide truly awful competition for each other

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    • Guest Who says:

      “Mattttttte….”

      Two faux geezers fluffing each other.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Jon’s a nutter
      “I deal in facts and there is not one shred of evidence for optimism for Brexit”
      .. The stock market index is evidence of optimism.

      Then the Express guy tackled him
      “Do you think it’s a fact that the nation is completely divided, cos that’s not what I see on the streets”
      … that of course is true there actually huge amounts of middle ground people who are not opposed to Brexit being implemented
      .. The Remainer fundamentalist are not nearly like 50% of people on the street.

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  18. digg says:

    The Times reports on the 450 BBC job cuts…

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/victoria-derbyshire-confronts-bosses-as-bbc-axes-450-jobs-in-cost-cutting-drive-grrl2j0m3

    and ends with…

    “The bosses say the cuts are necessary to save £80”

    That’s under 18p per news person per year, I wouldn’t have really objected to these reporters if I had known that!

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  19. StewGreen says:

    BBC ‘listen this lady saying don’t talk sport in the office , is important news.’

    Whereas Nelson Mandela said
    “sports has the power to change the world. It has the power to inspire. It has the power to unite people in a way that little else does. sports can awaken hope where there was previously only despair.”

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  20. StewGreen says:

    EU organised corp is to a pay a €3.6bn fine for bribes.
    thats a UK record
    ..and one years profit for the corp.
    It will be paid over a number of years.

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  21. Foscari says:

    BBC Job Cuts ? The first one I would send packing is ORLA
    GUERIN.

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  22. StewGreen says:

    9pm Brexit progs on two channels
    Channel 90 min doco on Farage
    ” a tragic figure outsmarted by Boris” says the Times reviewer

    BBC 4 Double Edition of Kuenssberg’s The Brexit Storm

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – so glad I don’t indulge in Murdock products . The left / remainers can say and write anything they want about Mr Farage but has a single individual achieved so much with so little since 1945 for Britain ?

      I think the truth is that Farage outfoxed Cameron to get us where we are .

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Apparently Farage is a failure. In the TV Choice magazine it questions whether the UK will ever buy Brexit. It gloomily says “is December 2019’s general election result the event that finally persuades Farage that the UK will never buy what he’s selling?”

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  23. Dover Sentry says:

    Farage’s Final Speech In The 4th Reich EU. The end is good!

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    • john in cheshire says:

      The Irish woman in the chair sounds like a nasty piece of work. No class.
      If she’d taken the speech, the cheers and the flags in good spirit, I think quite a few people would have felt a small amount of softness towards the EU.
      But no, she couldn’t resist one last attempt to bully us.
      Haters gotta hate; leopards cannot change their spots. And rats can’t help pissing and shitting on everything.

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  24. Dover Sentry says:

    Farage’s Final Speech In The 4th Reich EU. The end is good!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Dover – the BBC does do comedy – the fairwells from MEPs is popcorn gold . A liberal girl even blubbed ! The Scots national socialists weren’t far away either .

      Haven’t laughed so much since the election result .

      Thanks for posting the clip – I doubt the BBC will show it much if at all.

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    • digg says:

      The flags stunt, obviously not in the EU rule book, was a touch of genius from Farage. Underlined every word he had just said…. The headmistress was NOT amused though!

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    • vlad says:

      Good quote from Nige: “You may loathe populism, but I’ll tell you a funny thing: it’s becoming very popular!”

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      BBC Online News:

      “Farage Silenced For Waving Flag”

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

      The slimy anti-Brexit BBC gets a dig in against him by twisting the facts of the video.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Dover
        Yet mr Farage got 4 minutes to give the Reich two fingers whereas the repulsive Irish speaker woman ( bercow2?) was only giving a minute to the blubbing liberals and IRAsinnfein

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  25. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    French Asians have complained of a backlash against them following the coronavirus outbreak in China.

    ***

    Interesting what words the bbc dig out of genealogical edguds bucket when they can be redirected to suit.

    Presumably a few Pierres and Lucs have looked askance at the takeaway delivery bloke in the tear gas mask as they pause setting fire to Renaults in le hood.

    Classic BBC attempt to create further discord out of a febrile situation.

    Ours were at an independent school with a high % of pupils from HK, China, etc. Even in term time the number travelling at CNY was significant.

    I would have felt questions were legitimate simply on a sensible, contingency basis.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Where goeth one cheek, so wobbles the other.

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    • vlad says:

      You mean those racist French aren’t enjoying the cultural benefits of Coronavirus, along with the cultural benefits of car burning, church burning, antisemitism, suicide belts and car-ramming?
      Shame on them.

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  26. Guest Who says:

    OTish, but twitter can see those being stupid suffer consequences for ‘views their own’.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7943667/Alastair-Stewart-steps-ITV-News-presenting-duties.html?

    At some broadcasters.

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  27. pugnazious says:

    Watching Brit MEPs packing up their stuff in the presence of a BBC journo…Labour ‘interview’ ends with her sat on a chair with a poster propped up in the corner saying ‘Brexit is Toxic’…clearly a little stunt arranged with the BBC team.

    Also watching BBC news presenter gleefully exclaiming that this is a Tory government nationalising the rail company!.

    Then we have Justin Rowlatt in the Antarctic talking about the ‘Doomsday Glacier’ as people call it according to him…first time I’ve heard the term and might suggest the only people using it are somewhat politically motivated…but Rowlatt doesn’t seem to mind as he went on telling us we’ll all have to change our lives because sea levels are rising…and they are he emphasised.

    Maybe he’ll be one of the brave 450 who become martyrs…no doubt to the cruel Tory government charter deal.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug
      Having now witnessed the joke afternoon as politicians in Brussels blub over the end of the expense accounts – I turned my head to what the BBC is putting out on Friday night –

      It looks like the monster maitliss is running the show with the Katty one and the token white make one Christian ? Someone
      Sniping from the sides .

      I still thinking of hoping to Parliament Square but in the end o think I will be monitoring the bias without a TV licence …

      I fear the website is a bit shaky again so if it dies and doesn’t come back – farewell ….and keep the fight going .

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  28. Woolwich says:

    Later than planned but did anyone watch the a National Television Awards on ITV last night? Very much the Beeboids circling the wagons.
    I was in another room and didn’t see, but I heard someone from Peaky Blinders picking up an award. I’m not exaggerating when I say that he praised the BBC in something like 5 different ways within 30 seconds, he sounded manic and even my wife who isn’t as interested as me in this type of thing wondered what he was playing at on an ITV programme. The parting shot I heard was about how only the BBC could make a show like Peaky Blinders. Well let’s not let the fact that HBO, Sky, Sky Italia and probably a few others could.
    I was in the room when Ruth Jones picked up an award for Gavin And Stacey. Not quite as manic, probably impossible to be fair, but again gushing, repeated and embarrassingly obvious praise for the word BBC.
    I get the feeling they think that if they repeat “the world’s greatest broadcaster” often enough the general public will fall for it. I Hope it’s too late.

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  29. StewGreen says:

    Londonland : I always thought Woman’s Hour was often broadcast from Salford, but the Times says since 2014 it’s been entirely London based.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Wimmin’s Hour is a state of mind, not a place. No matter where it is broadcast from, it’s always broadcast from London. More specifically, from a couple of square miles encompassing Hampstead and Islington.

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  30. vlad says:

    The Beeb run an article titled “Coronavirus: Denmark in cartoon bust-up with China over flag.”

    But in their usual cowardly way omit showing the cartoon in question.

    So here it is.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51295225

    coronaviruscartoon-MS2801_NSTfield_image_socialmedia.var_1580208412.jpg

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  31. StewGreen says:

    I was going to say that 15% of BBC podcasts are on Climate but it may be more than that
    cos even innocuous titles hide it.
    There are dozens and dozens of them.

    Survival and revival in the Torres Strait
    The Documentary Podcast
    The islanders of Poruma are fighting to save their home from climate change, and their language from extinction
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p081lz6c

    Patrick Suckling: Is Australia becoming a climate pariah?
    HARDtalk
    Will the destruction wrought by bushfires in Australia lead to a change in direction?
    The country’s **former** Ambassador for the Environment analyses the government’s approach
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csy9fk

    4 episodes !!!
    The road to Glasgow
    Discovery2020: A Year to Save the Planet Episode 1 of 4
    Across 2020 Matt McGrath will be reporting on what is happening to save the planet

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  32. taffman says:

    “Coronavirus: Britons on Wuhan flights to be quarantined”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51292590
    Quarantined : Will this rule apply to non-Brits sneaking illegally across the Chanel from France ?
    The Channel has been our natural border/moat for thousands of years but it needs to be manned to be secure.
    But is our so called ‘Border Force’ up to it ?
    British lives are at risk.

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  33. Guest Who says:

    BBC Radio 4

    LBC radio presenter James O’Brien says it’s a coincidence that Brexit has been good for his career because too much of the media was responding to public opinion rather than giving people the information to make an informed decision.

    https://bbc.in/3aOvbbn

    ***

    The BBC knows who likes… to quote.

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  34. vlad says:

    The MEPs sang Auld Lang Syne. All very touching.

    But they sang one verse in French. ‘Ce n’est qu’un au-revoir’ means it’s only a goodbye… and you’ll be back.

    Don’t hold your breath.

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  35. theleftwilleatitself says:

    Any chance Fedup that I can put a bounty (jokingly) on Terry Christian’s head for say £1,000, for the first person to punch the twat square in the face and knock him down, and film it 👍😅
    What a complete performance on GMB this morning as watched on YouTube 👏

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Theleft
      No objections in principle . However – I’ve seen the footage on the YouTube too and came to the conclusion that Mr Christian has ‘personal issues ‘ and didn’t look very well at all .

      Also _ Mark Francious ( spelling )MP Brexiter was sitting next to him unable to get a word in . Mr Francious didn’t deck him which I put down to knowing that all the anger filled grief being expressed by snowflake remainers counts for nothing .

      Thursday the ReichEU takes the final step for withdrawal and there will be more despair from remainers . I really hope it hurts .
      We are in a good place – the BBC wondering who is going to get the chop next – and the EU still in disbelief that we really are pulling out . I wonder if Mr Farage and the brexit party unified the majority of the EU parliament as hate figures .

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  36. Up2snuff says:

    All that ‘warm’ water about, don’t know why Justin didn’t send a bucket down the ice cliff and haul it up to wash it off:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/science-environment-51280676/snotsicles-and-snowdrifts-extreme-climate-science

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  37. pugnazious says:

    From last May…from The Guardian…asking if the BBC is broken….

    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/may/26/bbc-news-brexit-balance-bias

    ‘Our national broadcaster has been defeated by Brexit; confounded either by the explosion of a rightwing populist politics it doesn’t know how to cover, or by growing millennial intolerance of views they abhor being given a platform, or possibly by both. An explosion of fake news, the BBC’s own neurosis about whether it’s too middle-class for its own good, and the vocal indignation of Labour activists who feel the media is institutionally biased against Jeremy Corbyn have all combined to create a perfectly bewildering storm for a once-loved institution.’

    You might think that that was a pretty accurate summary of events and perceptions, except perhaps for Brexit breaking the BBC, the BBC tried to break Brexit and in the process corrupted and broke itself….and of course the BBC was totally on-board with the Corbyn bandwagon.

    The Guardian isn’t so sure that the BBC is broken….

    ‘Or so the theory goes. But has the BBC really lost its way so very profoundly, or has it merely become a convenient whipping boy for a frustrated nation mired in political crisis? There is nothing new about the Beeb coming under fire from all sides. It has arguably had worse.

    But are things really as bad as the BBC’s critics say, or are they unwittingly playing into the hands of its enemies at a time when cool, impartial, public service journalism needs our support? Here, the Observer asks five well-placed commentators whether something really is rotten inside the Beeb – and if so, how to put it right again.

    Love to know which news organisation the Guardian is talking about there…delivering the cool, impartial public-service journalism.’ Lol…does the Guardian mean the highly partisan, over-heated, lecturing BBC?

    And these 5 well-placed commentators…who they? Hmmm…not exactly impartial…

    Gina Miller…say no more.

    Ayesha Hazarika who tells us… ‘Its worldview is quite metropolitan, quite white’ Oh dear god. Has she ever watched the BBC?

    Ash Sarkar…say no more.

    Craig Oliver…pro-Remain and still BBC through and through…an enemy in the Tory camp…what was Cameron thinking?

    Nick Lowles…from Hate Not Hope [er…well..actually]

    A finer bunch of impartial, cool and raional commentators you couldn’t hope for. The Guardian has outdone itself.

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  38. taffman says:

    \\TN’s Alastair Stewart steps down after social media ‘errors of judgement’//

    Why ?

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    • ToobiWan says:

      Quoting Shakespeare, Taff.
      Look what happened to Enoch for repeating the Virgil he heard from one of his constituents.

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    • Guest Who says:

      It appears things got Shakespearean.

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      • Guest Who says:

        This might explain if, inevitably, not excuse.

        Yet again, the MSM goes full MSM.

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        • Guest Who says:

          What was that about ‘gotcha’ culture?

             10 likes

        • Guest Who says:

          I saw this as retweeted by Newsround blog.

          Something is going to blow soon.

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          • ToobiWan says:

            A whole, new meaning to the term “bog standard”!

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          • tarien says:

            Almost cannot believe what I am reading-Schools warned that they could be prosecuted if they fail to allow transgender pupils to use their preffered toilet!!! Oh my good God, what on earth have we come to- surely until a pupil is considered an adult (18 yrs old) it should continue to be considered, by the powers that be, that if born a boy you stay in the sex until 18 and the same for a girl-what may one ask are the parents of these children thinking about allowing their children to disrupt their schooling and society, or perhaps they don’t think, just follow the crap spewed out from their mobile phones.

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      • pugnazious says:

        It’s noticeable that we don’t get the full story…the context of the tweet…kinda important…The Sun notes…

        ‘Mr Stewart has used the same Shakespeare quote in at least one other exchange with a Twitter user who wasn’t identifiably black.’

        How about the same severe response to all those BBC journalists who call Leave voters or anyone who wants to control immigration far-right and nazis?

        https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/tv/alastair-stewart-quit-tv-role-21388687

        evidence has now emerged that Stewart decided to call it a day after he used the word “ape” when quoting Shakespeare in a tweet sent to a black Twitter user. The incident took place just weeks before he announced his shock resignation.

        Stewart and Twitter user Martin Shapland had argued on Twitter over how the Crown was funded by the taxpayer.

        The newsreader then quoted from Shakespeare’s Measure for Measure.

        He wrote: “But man, proud man, Dress’d in a little brief authority, Most ignorant of what he’s most assur’d – His glassy essence – like an angry ape, Plays such fantastic tricks before high heaven.

        “As makes the angels weep; who, with our spleens, Would all themselves laugh mortal.”

        Mr Shapland later retweeted the comment and branded Stewart a “disgrace”.

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        • Banania says:

          I read that the “victim” himself said that a private apology would have satisfied him, but the “culprit’s” bosses insisted on public dismissal.

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      • Guest Who says:

        SackOfRats Normal, All Fully Understood.

        http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-biter-bit.html

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  39. pugnazious says:

    Outgoing BBC Director-General Lord Tony Hall has criticised the corporation for contributing to a toxic discourse with political journalism aimed at trying to ‘catch out’ politicians.

    Got to admire Lord Hall’s brass-neck, his cheek, his gall as he, after so many years in the job, now announces that BBC political interviews are too aggressive and damage the political discourse….

    ‘the BBC director-general has now lent his weight to calls for a fresh approach to political interviews, suggesting that overly aggressive encounters can contribute to public cynicism. Lord Hall of Birkenhead, who is stepping down in the summer, took advantage of his imminent freedom to suggest yesterday that journalists should grant politicians a little more space to outline their ideas.’

    What?…Taking advantage of his imminent freedom? He was the one in charge, no-one was better placed to stop this damaging type of interviewing than him…and he did nothing despite it long being the complaint that the interviews were not designed to be informative but were pure ‘gotcha’ interrogations to grab headlines, make the news and take down certain politicians….usually Tory.

    Even the Guardian noticed back in November….sort of…

    In Britain’s gotcha-clip election, only the shameless politician will survive

    ‘TV journalists’ relentless pursuit of the viral ‘car-crash interview’ is driving nuance and reasoning from the campaign…“Back in the day, the role of reporter and presenter was to act as an agent for viewers at home, wanting to know what’s going on,” Gibb argued. “What’s happening now is that the incentives are ‘retweets’ and ‘likes’, which totally distorts the type of interview which is done.”

    The result, he said, was the manufactured “car-crash interview … the ‘I really showed it to them’ line”. The rewards for journalists from this approach, he maintained, came not from enlightening viewers and listeners, but in the vanity of “likes and hat-tips from other reporters”. Everything had become about extracting a “gotcha” clip in which the hapless MP floundered or was skewered, footage that could go triumphantly viral. Informed investigation or examination of the issues was secondary to such exchanges. Political interviewers, Gibb said, needed to “get back in their box”.’

    However this being the Guardian it doesn’t take long before the writer’s deeply rooted bias kicks in and he resorts to type and we find that the real problem is cynical politicians [usually Tory] who have corrupted the discourse and ‘forced’ the likes of the BBC to respond in a similar manner…in fact this turns out to be an opportunistic bit of electioneering against the Tories accusing them of playing the media in an underhand and Machiavellian manner that does untold damage not only to democracy but to the media that guards our democracy.

    The truth is that politicians have become more and more reluctant to reveal anything in an interview and even reluctant to do them because they know that interviewers have no interest in getting the truth about any issue but are solely intent on winning point-scoring gotcha moments [that are usually manufactured and hyped….ala Emma Barnett style] that instantly hit the news bulletins and the presenter gets flooded with praise for their brilliant and cutting interview when in fact the public are left none the wiser about the real issues.

    The highly aggressive interviews with continual interruptions and cut-offs and changing angle of attack in order to keep the interviewee off balance doesn’t make for a good interview…the interviewee isn’t allowed to develop their narrative and to fully explain what they mean, there’s no room for nuance, context or qualification…it’s all black and white and if the interviewee slips ever so slightly off the supposed path that the interviewer has determined they should be on it’s suddenly a ‘gotcha’ and the BBC weaponises it to sensationalise their news and to damage the poltician.

    Yeah…great shame Lord Hall never noticed this before…still..better late than never eh?

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  40. Sluff says:

    Hold on to your hats.
    I am indebted to Paul Mason !!!!!

    https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/1222544705986220033/photo/1

    He shows a copy of a slide presumed to represent BBC news strategy.

    In case the above link fails, I list the ‘story teams’ the BBC seem to think will define the stories of interest to us.

    On the Day
    Society
    World
    Learning
    Technology and Innovation
    Health and wellbeing
    Politics
    Culture
    Money and work
    Planet.

    So, with a couple of exceptions, all the public sector, socialist, tax spending Guardianista ideals the Libtards love. Written down in black and white, as we used to be able to say, absolute proof of the BBC agenda.

    Mason’s actual point is that elsewhere in the diagram there is only a small section for investigative journalism.

    I never thought I’d be able to write ‘I agree with Paul’, even if not for the same reasons..

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Sluff the Mason tweet was discussed further up the page at 4:29pm

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    • john in cheshire says:

      Isn’t it the case, rather than you agreeing with Mr Mason, that for once, Mr Mason agrees with you, and me and the rest of us who have these opinions.

      To give Mr Mason credit is to legitimise his opinions.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        “News becoming an announcement board for business, the monarchy and the state…”.
        It’s the State Broadcaster, Mr Mason – it’s what they do and always have done. Just happens to be staffed with idiots who don’t understand their role in it, and who are mentally and politically frozen in time somewhere between the summer of love in San Francisco ’67 and the Paris riots of May ’68.

        But, even a stopped clock is correct twice a day, as his comments prove.

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  41. JimS says:

    A different slant on the Australian bush fires. It is argued that the eucalyptus tree is a killer to other trees animals and humans. It uses fire to eliminate competition from other trees.

    It is also claimed that these trees have been exported to Spain and the USA because they are a fast-growing hardwood but that they spread fire there too. Not an argument that will be heard on the BBC ‘because trees burn as a result of global warming’.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      The terrible fires in Portugal 2017 were largely down to this. Traditional trees had been replaced by vast numbers of non-native Eucalyptus trees in the preceding decades to support the paper-producing industry, despite the warnings of environmentalists and foresters.

      One cannot help feel that there is a moral here, about what can happen when plants, animals and people are transported in large numbers to a totally different country from where they originated…

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  42. StewGreen says:

    interesting red herring
    The first Tweet that mentioned the “ape” tweet was 5:19pm

    The
    first tweet that postulated Stewart have said
    ‘there are some absolute pr*cks at the BBC”
    was at 4:57pm

    However I find no evidence that AS actually did tweet that

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  43. tapwatertory says:

    450 redundancies at our beloved world leading trusted broadcaster.

    The battle for brexit has been won so the propaganda department is not needed anymore.

    Anyway, whenever I’m on call at night these stories usually appear;

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51299078

    “I was sacked and silenced for being trans”.

    This is a story about someone (doesn’t give their real name) who claims the company (doesn’t name the company) hurt their feelings.

    Apparently the bbc has seen evidence. Doesn’t share the ‘evidence’ with us so there’s probably a claim in there.

    The article goes on about someone else who’s wedding tackle got touched, again gives the ‘victim’ an alias.

    This is not news.

    It’s hearsay and gossip.

    If their serious about reporting these crimes against humanity name names, get it out in the open or do they know the saying;

    IS THAT TRUE OR DID YOU HEAR IT ON THE bbc?

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  44. tapwatertory says:

    After the announcement that our beloved and trusted broadcaster is to make 450 people redundant (because of brexit).

    Could maxicony end his/her posts with;

    WOULD YOU LIKE FRIES WITH THAT

    Practice makes perfect.

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    • JimS says:

      The graduate with a science degree asks, “Why does it work?”
      The engineering graduate asks, “How does it work?”
      The accounting graduate asks, “How much will it cost?”
      The graduate with an arts degree asks, “Do you want fries with
      that?

      However, in the UK, if the arts graduate has been to Oxbridge, it goes like this:

      The science graduate asks, “Why does it work?”
      The engineering graduate asks, “How does it work?”
      The accounting graduate asks, “How much will it cost?”
      The graduate with an Oxbridge arts degree says:
      “Have the answers to all of these questions on my desk by Monday
      morning.”

      At least the arts graduate working for McDonald’s knows what to do with the answers.

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      • john in cheshire says:

        This hypothetical everyman arts graduate is also likely to ask:
        ” How does it make people feel, especially minorities?”
        ” Will it hurt the environment, climate, gaia, and other natural gods and shouldn’t we forbid it”?

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  45. taffman says:

    He’s in his “safe space”.

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  46. Not Gwent says:

    “…Structural changes in the industry, Brexit uncertainty, and weak exports were all factors, the trade body said…”

    State Broadcaster (News front page) doesn’t mention uncertainty about petrol and diesel cars proposed bans – nor what taxes and restrictions in use are to come in the meantime.

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  47. vlad says:

    A quick look at the beeb Home page reveals Saint Kobe of the Basket is still there… and the devastating news that a waiter / waitress was allegedly sacked for coming out trans.

    Enough wokeness for one day. Off.

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    • Not Gwent says:

      Steeleye Span too. Now that doesn’t happen every day. Clickbait into a ‘how we celebrated going into Europe’ piece.

      Then a lot, on Friday not much – not officially in any event.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Toady

      The BBC has a certain unthinking colonial streak which has been exposed by SARS 2 in China . UK citizens in China are to be shipped ‘ home ‘ .

      But the BBC champions poisonous globalism . Why are they to be bought ‘back’ to Blighty . The risk of transmission of the illness on the flight must be severe and where is there a guarantee that quarantine will be effective ?

      Yet the BBC is fixated on a UK chap who married a China girl and has a month old baby with no registered nationality . Said chap is regularly popping up to moan and the BBC is loving it . Bit like the Iranian woman banged up in Iran who is married to a UK chap .

      Meanwhile – of course – the real story is the spread of the disease and what controls will be put on animal markets in the future to stop SARS 3 – the due full pandemic 1919 style which is due and might kill millions …. the failing , declining BBC chooses not to report this .

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      • Banania says:

        How do you mean “which is due”?

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Banania – there is a theory that there is a ‘natural cycle ‘ to pandemics – the last big fatal one was the one which originated at the end of the Great War – there hasn’t been a big fatal one since ( I mean a pandemic where a big proportion of those infected die ) . There might be a virologist or similar on the site will support me – or indeed knock me down … that’s what a mean

          The ‘victims ‘ of each pandemic also appear to be different – the 1919 one hit those in their 20s for some reason whereas the more ‘common’ one in very young or very old .

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Jo Brand to play Kobe Bryant in new BBC biopic? Unsubstantiated rumours are circulating on the internet that alleged comedian Jo “battery acid” Brand is being considered for a new BBC film about the world’s greatest ever sportsman, who recently died in a tragic helicopter crash. Whilst there have been no discussions about a possible film within the BBC and Ms Brand has not actually been contacted, the internet is in meltdown – much like the polar caps – with excitement and speculation. A senior BBC executive (Oxford, PPE) who wishes to remain nameless, said: “We are aware that, if this happens, some people may question the choice of Jo Brand to play an attractive, athletic, black man. However, in the BBC we practice what we preach and can never be accused of hypocrisy. We have long advocated that casting should be race-blind, gender-blind and talent-blind. Anyone who questions this is, er, motivated by hate. Now, I have a flight to catch as I need to be in my Tuscany villa before the UK crashes out of the EU.”

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  48. vlad says:

    And now for some good news courtesy of the DM:

    BBC bloodbath: High-profile presenters are tipped to be among 450 jobs axed – with Newsnight, Radio 5 Live and the World Service hit hardest – as insider claims: ‘No one is immune’

    “Staff were left reeling at the scale of the cutbacks, which will see around one in 13 roles go and are part of an £80million savings programme. Newsnight, BBC2’s flagship current affairs show is among the programmes bearing the brunt of the cuts, along with popular radio station Radio 5 Live and the World Service, which will lose 50 roles…

    On a dramatic day for the corporation, Victoria Derbyshire confronted the BBC news boss Fran Unsworth about why her show had been axed while there was fury that the corporation was slashing the number of journalists while continuing to pay a fortune to sports and entertainment stars, such as Gary Lineker.”

    So: massive cutbacks and massive infighting.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7944987/BBC-Blood-bath-High-profile-presenters-450-jobs-axed.html

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    • john in cheshire says:

      Why aren’t they axing the Asian Network, or Radio6?

      These channels are divisive, racist and should never have been created in the first place.

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  49. Not Gwent says:

    “there was fury that the corporation was slashing the number of journalists while continuing to pay a fortune to sports and entertainment stars, such as Gary Lineker”

    I think this is a fair point. Should State Broadcaster be in the entertainment business at all?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Not gwent

      Anything which depresses morale within the BBC is welcome , and uncertainty about who is getting sacked is even better .

      Toady 2

      The Toady programme was wall to wall project fear for over 3 years . We reported it all here . The usual suspects were rolled on every day and given free rein to fight the referendum – as well as – of course – during the campaign before it .

      Yet now – anything on the BBC about leaving tomorrow ? No . Any attempt to bring leave MPs on to talk about what is happening during this year ? No .
      It’s as though – institutionally – their failure to stop Brexit has led the BBC into denial – one of those stages of grief .

      They cannot accept their disconnect to decent people who had their say – again – in the General Election when the sewage of Berkow , Soubry et al were finally flushed away .

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    • Guest Who says:

      “W1A: Sack of Rats” meets ‘The Apprentice’.

      Having been shafted more than I care to remember before I started my own business, I take no pleasure in this, mainly because it is clear the turds who have floated to the top are the ones who will remain and are sacrificing all below to bask in lucrative, if rotting, uniquely-funded splendour.

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    • vlad says:

      The so called entertainment is click-bait for the propaganda.

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  50. AsISeeIt says:

    I’m sure readers & posters hereabouts will have seen our Nigel’s excellent exit speech to the EU so-called Parliament. [Really we English long ago ought to have copyrighted the word Parliament & we should sue the Eurocrats for misuse – mind you, our case would obviously fail in the European Court] But I digress.

    I also have to thank dear Mairead McGuinness the Vice-President of the European Parliament for giving us such a wonderfully apt send off. In a few words and a prissy rebuke she sums up the European Project and it’s antipathy to Britain :

    “If you disobey the rules you get cut off. Could we please remove the flags.”

    We don’t like your rules so we are leaving your protection racket and no, we won’t remove our flag.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      “we won’t remove our flag.”
      But we will remove your flag. Many people find the flying of the EU flag in Britain to be deeply offensive, invoking the same reaction as in seeing the swastika or hammer-and-sickle flag fluttering.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Asiseeit
      I caught the whole session at the Brussels parliament by accident . The speaker woman has been taking lessons from Berkow – hideous – and without class .

      The who ‘ goodbye ‘ thing just re enforced the wise choice of British voters to get out of something we should never have joined in the first place .

      The BBC repeated some historic documentary about the road to our joining . There was a piece with Enoch Powell predicting that by using fraud and lies to get us in – one day it would be ‘ pay back ‘ like so many things – Mr Powell was right . ( troll fodder )

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    • john in cheshire says:

      I think Mr Farage and the other UK MEPs did an excellent job in ridiculing this Potemkin Parliament.

      They even rubber-stamped their Withdrawal Act.

      The place deserves all the contempt and ridicule it attracts to itself. And from 11pm tomorrow, we don’t have to care one jot about them or their futile facade of democracy.

      I watched Alan Dershowitz yesterday giving the US Senate a lecture on their Constitution. It was rivetting. And amazingly, he made reference to our own Parliament and significant figures in the 18th and 19th centuries whose writings on UK legalities helped the US Founding Fathers produce the US Constitution.

      Mr Dershowitz and his reasoned advice, was in sharp contrast to the emptiness of the EU and all its constituent parts.

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      • tarien says:

        Agree John, but unhappily the contentious withdrawal Agreement will mean that the UK continues to throw mountains of money at that contemptuous duplicitous bungling shambles in Bussels, and yet the UK will not be allowed to have any say in what is done by the EU with that money. Cannot understand in view of this awful arrangement why the UK did not leave the EU without a deal. The EU will eventually collapse as those other member nations realise that their sovereignty is being shot away-note the only flag allowed is the EU flag-what does that tell you?

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    • Banania says:

      That woman’s face would turn the milk sour.

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