Midweek Thread 22 January 2020

With Anthony Hall (director general)leaving the Biased BBC earlier than expected it increases the hope that the new government really is going to take on the bloated broadcaster. Maybe it will kill off the licence tax – or at least give notice that it will be ending soon . We can but hope .

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457 Responses to Midweek Thread 22 January 2020

  1. Dover Sentry says:

    Regarding Trump at Davos and his attack on the Climate Change myth.

    The BBC have within hours dropped the Davos headline in favour of the contrived Impeachment saga.

    BBC head in sand. They really, really must be put down and therefore put us all out of OUR misery.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Backlinks to previous thread
      page 3 started 11am Tuesday
      page 2 . page 1

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    • Guest Who says:

      Yet another BBC entity called ‘Cut through the noise’ has decided to ‘look at’… guess who!

      ***

      President Trump decried climate “prophets of doom” and called for a rejection of “predictions of the apocalypse” at the World Economic Forum.

      We looked at President Trump’s record on energy and the environment.

      [Maps courtesy of Google Earth]

      ***

      Mainly using their fave cheery pixie.

      Also they have found a ‘former’, in this case an Oz PM of cheer, who likewise is not a Don fan.

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      • tarien says:

        Mind you, a great number of Private Jets and other aircraft flying into Davos didn’t say much for the Climate Change Alarmists including the Greta Thunberg girl. How did she get to Davos? On her bike maybe?

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        • NCBBC says:

          Greta poor girl, should be in school, instead as a poster girl for the climate is changing (as if it ever stopped) Hoaxers.

          Meanwhile

          Delingpole: David ‘Greta of the Third Age’ Attenborough Launches BBC’s Climate Bedwetting Blitzkrieg

          https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/01/18/attenborough-launches-bbc-climate-bedwetting-blitzkrieg/

          and Pres Trump tries to calm people panicked and running around “The sky is falling. Give me millions of dollars”.

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        • NCBBC says:

          We are headed to an ice age.

          We should use hydrocarbons for transport, as its is the best option. The resulting CO2 in the atmosphere, will increase plant growth, and the associated creatures from the microscopic up.

          Ice ages are great extinction events. Life/nature being life, it will try its best to ensure its survival. With help from us, a more populous planet with enhanced oxygen in the atmosphere,
          we might just invent our way out from the oncoming ice age.

          At the least, we gain time to come up with engineering solutions, working with nature.

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      • NCBBC says:

        The social/ gender studies grads took a world famous brand, the BBC, and turned into a woke juvenile replica of their lefty minds.

        What have the ‘woke’ middle managers of New Broadcasting House done to our BBC?

        https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/work/have-woke-middle-managers-new-broadcasting-house-done-bbc/

        The BBC is still worth saving if most of the non-engineering staff are sent to S Georgia to monitor climate change.

        The left destroys everything it touches.

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    • G says:

      DS,
      They could not defeat Prof. Niall Ferguson on the subject of Trump earlier on Toady. Clearly Ferguson is a Trump fan. I guess the BABC simply could not get him off quick enough.
      Nb. ‘diary note: don’t invite Ferguson on to be interviewed on Trump ANYTIME’.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Maybe Niall was a tad upset after being introduced as Neal?

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        • Banania says:

          He is Neal. He complained once when Dimbleby introduced him as Nile, and when Dimbleby said, “Well, it’s spelt Nile”, he replied, “No, it’s spelt Neal” – and he is right.

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    • DWBuxton says:

      But the point is that he was correct, he was the one who got Fracking going and immedietly Energy costs dropped like a stone. Would that we could have such a sensible Leader. We could then probably get some sensible Energy prices, as oposed to the obscene prices we get now.

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  2. tvlicensingblog says:

    New from the BBC TV Licensing Blog midweek:
    Tony Hall to Step Down as BBC Director General

    Please see our Quick Guide for everything you need to know about the intimidating, dishonest tactics employed by the BBC in the name of TV licence enforcement.

       41 likes

    • G says:

      tvlicensingblog,
      ‘Dishonesty’ runs through the BBC like blood in the veins. Whether it be tv licence enforcement or programming.

         22 likes

  3. Up2snuff says:

    Oh dear!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51197099

    As the football manager or commentator famously said: “It appears to be deja vu all over again.”

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      I was thinking that perhaps mr and Mrs Windsor -Markle will earn a living from sueing news outfits for taking pictures of them .
      A relative has already got the ‘ China milk’ advertising franchise so maybe they can do a royal couple maple syrup advert …

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      Call me cynical, but I can’t help thinking that Ms Markle made a point of ensuring she’d be photographed. How many of us walk along with a permanent “say cheese” face?

      23657470-7909539-Canada_life_Meghan_Markle_took_her_eight_month_old_son_Archie_an-m-38_1579574321018.jpg

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      I am somewhat reminded of the complaints that ‘Princess’ Diana used to make, along the lines of:
      “I am hounded by the press and have no privacy. For instance, tonight I will be dining in the Ivy between 8:30pm and 9:45pm, sitting at the table to the left of the main window, eating with a mysterious male friend who is not my husband, wearing an unusual, pale-blue, silk dress. But I can guarantee that there will be photographers there, invading my privacy.”

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        ‘The one thing worse than being talked about, is not being talked about’

        That’s a mangled quote from Oscar Wilde I think. Applies to her. Is she becoming blacker in BBC photos? If the BBC continue to progress this, she’ll end up looking like Winnie Mandela. The relationship will then certainly fragment 🙂

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  4. JimS says:

    Imagine this on Today.

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    • vlad says:

      Kudos to Maajid for speaking out (not for the first time). He will get little support from the repulsive liberal-left establishment (starting with Al-beeb), and death threats from muslims (not for the first time).

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      • Doublethinker says:

        Such is the present state of the UK that only a Muslim could tell the truth like this and not be hung out to dry by the MSM. I expect Maajid will get hammered but it will be as nothing compared to what a non Muslim would get eg Trevor Phillips . If the person making these points was white then the full might of the state would be turned on them eg TR.

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        • tarien says:

          It has to be said, that the influx of Muslims over the past twenty five years and more has and is causing a complete destabilization of the whole of Europe and of its territories. The massive financial power of the Traffickers gained from the money they accumulate from the migrants and other areas is able to facilitate the movement of Muslim peoples throughout Europe and elsewhere, and will seemingly continue on its course unabated. The unprecedented influx of illegal immigrants into Europe, mainly from the Islamic world including Africa, Middle East, and Indian sub-continent has and is continuing to create international headlines. Sweden is currently receiving about 1,000 asylum seekers per day, sometimes more than that. If that inflow continues, this would mean more than 3.6 million asylum seekers to Sweden in just one decade. In reality, family reunions will make this number much larger. Small European nations cannot handle such immigration numbers for very long. Every nation, state and government has to be able to control its borders. The state and independence begins and ends with control of the borders.each asylum seeker or refugee tends to bring an additional four to six immigrants: parents, children or wives. In reality, one million immigrants could therefore turn out to be five million, when all is said and done. That is merely the result of one year of mass immigration. If current trends continue, Germany for example could end up with 20 million inhabitants from Africa and the Middle East a couple of decades from now.The current birth explosion in the African continent and over the next 30 yrs, could add another 2 billion people-each asylum seeker or refugee tends to bring an additional four to six immigrants: parents, children or wives. In reality, one million immigrants could therefore turn out to be five million, when all is said and done. That is merely the result of one year of mass immigration. If current trends continue, Germany could end up with 20 million inhabitants from Africa and the Middle East a couple of decades from now. The current population of the entire European Union is just over 500 million people. It is estimated that Africa’s population will grow by more than twice that much, in less than two generations. Where are these people supposed to live? Will they have water, food and work at home. Those questions should be squarely aimed at those countries leaders.
          With such gowth in population over the next 30 years or so throughout will mean that what we have seen so far is only the beginning. Even the EU and the UN are gradually admitting this. The current migration flows of Muslims and of African people generally will represent a long-term trend, not a temporary crisis. If these hordes of illegal immigrants are not stopped and sent back, this could cause European societies to collapse.
          These words from another essay provide what should be the answer: If civil war is to be prevented in Europe as a consequence of mass migration, all EU countries must mount a massive naval operation to forestall the landing of African migrants in Italy, Greece, and other southern European nations. This can be done quite effectively by first obliterating the boats used by the Muslim people smugglers. Special prow attachments can be placed on warships which will enable them to safely push migrant boats back to Libyan shores. If the EU does not stop this flow of Africans now, it will lead to the inevitable civil war which will determine if European civilization is to survive.

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          • NCBBC says:

            Pres Trump sees nemesis approaching. He has stemmed the flow of Muslims into America. Ive predicted this scenario for over 40 years.

            As I’ve said before, if Pres Trump fails , the West is finished. It will be civil war which will destroy the West, win or lose.

            All that can be hoped is that China continues with what the West has started.

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          • richardofkent says:

            Some good points but don’t forget that the growth in African populations is driven by Western Aid ensuring that children survive childhood. These children grow up with no opportunities for employment in their own countries so travel to the West. Stop the aid and make Africans responsible for their own.

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    • NCBBC says:

      Tens of thousands of young girls have been raped. Assuming 10 men to a girl, one estimates around 200,000 to 300,000 adult males of “Asian” in south Asia of a particular heritage. This also means that the entire community knew.

      National inquiries are just a ploy to filibuster.

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  5. StewGreen says:

    O/T Telephone computer scam
    Tom an 80yo neighbour has enough trouble caring for his wife after her cancer operation.
    – He bought something on Amazon , and then finds he missed the box to avoid signing up for AmazonPrime.
    Yesterday he had the online runaround cancelling that.
    Then today whilst he was sitting at his computer the nice Amazon man phoned him to explain someone has bought an £90 Amazon Echo in his name.
    – At 5pm he told me the guy went on an on and asked me if I could speak to the guy tmw.
    .. I say “Tom it’s a scam, did you download anything ?”
    “No” .. I check the Browser history and yep there was a RemoteDesktop app downloaded
    Tom explained “Yeh we had a hard time cos the computer security kept blocking this”
    FFS
    I removed it, ran malware checks and got Tom to change his passwords . He has no online banking, thank god
    Who are these bastards preying on 80 year olds ?

    BTW R4 covered this topic at lunchtime
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000dfph

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    • Dave S says:

      No elderly and not so elderly person should do online banking either on a smartphone or a computer. It is simply not secure and never will be. Make sure any elderly person you know removes it from their computer or smartphone. It is the single most effective way of staying safe and keeping your money safe

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      • Dave S says:

        I will add that if your bank tries to make you use their wretched apps etc then just change banks right away.

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      • Banania says:

        Many years ago I was recommended to use a telephone bank – the “first” one I think, but I had better not advertise it. I have had 100% trouble-free banking ever since. The people I speak to are always English or Scottish and pleasant to deal with.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – at the weekend some idiot BBC radio programme went into great detail of a scam where a false plod rings an elderly person to advise them of a security breach and then helping them physically moving their money from their own account to a ‘secure ‘ one provided by the police .

      I winced because the BBC gave much more detail than I’ve described so anyone thinking of going into the defraud business now had a scam courtesy of the BBC….

      Glad you helped out your neighbour .good job but I bet they’ll try again .

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      • Charlie Farley says:

        Fedup2
        On a slightly different BBC tack……a friend of mine was serving on a Destroyer in the Falklands , Argentine bombs dropping and not exploding……..later that night on BBC world service it was announced why they were not exploding…..”not set at the right height to go off ” , following day bombs exploding and killing our Forces. BBC stupidity even then

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Charlie
          Even I left out some details from the scam which made it work .

          As for the anecdote about the BBC providing military intelligence to the enemy – I think the time will come when BBC reporters become bigger targets than the conflict they are misreporting ….

          I used to work with someone who had been on the Sheffield – that thousand yard stare ….

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          • Charlie Farley says:

            Fed
            Just remembered that my mate was on Antrim when a 500 lb bomb went through the deck …….3 volunteers step forward…in otherwords you you and you , they dragged it out with rope and pulley blocks and dropped it off the back and boom ! . Ironically the bombs were British WW2 surplus ! !

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  6. taffman says:

    Have some more global warming from Al Beeb ……………………………..
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-51200459/troops-called-as-record-snowfall-blankets-canadian-province

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    • dfhunter says:

      it’s not called “global warming” anymore it’s,it’s,it’s, – err – “global heating” or maybe “climate change” or!!!
      I give up – were all gonna fry & die next year I think according to the kids that study the science.

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  7. BRISSLES says:

    Myself and many friends don’t use online banking – none of us are stupid, but of a certain age (but realistically could get ‘stupid’ in the next few years ), and I’ve always wondered anyway what would happen in the middle of a transaction if the computer crashed, and then there are all the security breaches that banks have had of late, doesn’t inspire one with confidence.

    I see people just hold their mobile against another techy piece and money has been transferred immediately. I think, Christ, the trust that some people have !!

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    • StewGreen says:

      I have to say that most of the stuff I see these days isn’t a clever computer hack
      .. but rather a case of catching someone off guard and gettingsecurity details off them
      eg “We are your bank , now please confirm your security details with us”

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  8. StewGreen says:

    I came across this page
    BBC Briefing on Immigration: How do I use it?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50132840

    At first the page asked for feedback
    then they changed it
    https://www.newssniffer.co.uk/articles/1890089/diff/0/1

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  9. taffman says:

    We have of recent times , heard much from Al Beeb about “Cultural Appropriation”. Well, go and have a look at the new film being released “THE PERSONAL HISTORY OF DAVID COPPERFIELD”.
    “Cultural Appropriation” works both ways.
    QED?

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  10. StewGreen says:

    The Lord Hall article still has open comments
    Top one
    Great, can we please have the BBC back? You know, the one that wasn’t obsessed with gender politics, racism or anything snowflake, and could it return to being a dependable and unbiased organisation that produced great programming? Could we, please?
    Likes 1015 … Dislikes 74

    There are some new comments with no Likes this
    Those who believe the BBC has a left-wing bias are those with far-right opinions, which includes many Tories.
    Too many of the far-right activists swamping HYS over last 12 years think anybody with a contrary opinion is left-wing.
    For goodness’ sake, some of them called Cameron left-wing & a traitor for wanting to stay in the EU. Sigh!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51176588

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    • Not Gwent says:

      Re the “Those who believe…” quote.

      Shutting off opinion is what creates an ‘in built’ bias. State Broadcaster acts like a private newspaper. There would be no problem were it not for the ‘unique’ funding it receives.

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    • andyjsnape says:

      my comment on lord haw haw going was…

      good

      bye

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  11. Right Angle says:

    “With Anthony Hall leaving the Biased BBC earlier than expected it increases the hope that the new government really is going to take on the bloated broadcaster.”

    Here’s the Daily Mail’s angle:
    “… The director-general’s surprise departure was also painted as a strategic move so he could prevent Boris Johnson having a say on who replaced him.”
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7907407/Lord-Tony-Hall-stepping-Director-General-BBC.html

    I got the DM link from David Keighley’s article in The Conservative Woman (TCW):
    https://conservativewoman.co.uk/exiting-left-lord-hall-of-the-british-bias-corporation/

    And he is not too optimistic about the new “Conservative” government really taking on the corpulent corporation:

    “The only hope now is that a genuinely reformist new director-general is appointed. Don’t hold your breath. Current culture secretary Nicky Morgan has already paid gushing tributes to Lord Hall. That says it all.”

    Still, let us not give up hope just yet!

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  12. Halifax says:

    Omg it’s snowing in Canada……in winter !!! Quick stop an age old industry make people redundant now !! We must appease the God of climate change with another sacrifice …..

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  13. digg says:

    MSM beginning to realise that the Trump impeachment is probably going nowhere have switched attack this morning on their Trump hate campaign vendetta, He is now the World’s number 1 Climate Denier apparently.

    What a shower of S*it they really are!

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    • Halifax says:

      I’m No 2

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Digg,
      In the Times this morning they had one of their entirely pointless readers polls on whether Trump was guilty and two thirds thought he was! The Times has moved a long way down the Globalist liberal path in the last five years and this poll shows how many readers are polluted with Wokism and have abandoned use of their brains. Many leftists are too dumb to realise that for the ordinary working man and women of America of all colours , Trump is their liberator from the slavery of Globalisation. He will certainly be re-elected in Nivember cue more self indulgent stupid resistance from assorted vacuous Hollywood celebs an ex princess amongst them. I only hope that he is able to fully open the sluices on his great swamp daring scheme in his second term and cleanse Washington.

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      • Peter Grimes says:

        Two thirds may well think Trumpo is guilty but we KNOW that Billy Clinton WAS guilty even though he got off.

        Never underestimate the hypocrisy of the Left.

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        • Square-Eyed says:

          Bill Still has just released a film he made in 1998 about President Clinton’s many misdemeanours. The first part (of five) is introductory, offering a history of impeachment and explaining why the Republican Party ultimately declined to use the film.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        According to the US constitution, the president may be impeached for “high crimes and misdemeanours”.

        Congress has charged President Trump with “abuse of power” and “obstruction of Congress”. You will not find either of these charges listed as crimes in the American legal system. All President Trump is charged with is, in effect, having been elected. To the Democrat controlled Congress, everything he does is an abuse of power or an obstruction to them.

        The Democrat controlled Congress have clearly abused the impeachment process for purely partisan ends. They have charged the president with two “crimes” which are simply not crimes on any statute book. The trial in the Senate should last about five minutes, if that.

        Don’t expect Jon Sopel to mention any of this, of course.

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        • NCBBC says:

          Rob in Cheshire

          Democrats in Congress are correct. “Obstruction of Congress” is true as Pres Trump refused to cooperate with Congress to convict himself. Guilty as charged.

          OTH, there is the small matter of the Fifth Amendment. The Fifth Amendment protects the accused from being forced to incriminate themselves in a crime. So the Democrats in Congress are in violation of the Fifth Amendment. Pres Trump cannot be accused of “Obstruction of justice”, even if it was true.

          Democrat Congress are in violation of the Sixth Amendment too.

          But they dont care. They are out to burn the constitution if they can stop Pres Trump.

          So what is so important that burning America to the ground is justified.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        The US constitution states that a president may be impeached for “high crimes and misdemeanours”.

        The House of Representatives had charged President Trump with “abuse of power” and “obstruction of Congress”, neither of which are crimes in the American legal system.

        The charges are false and partisan. The trial in the Senate should take no more than five minutes. The only charge the Democrat House really has against President Trump is that he was elected instead of Hillary Clinton. They wasted two years and millions of dollars trying to “prove” Russian collusion, and could not. Then a conveniently placed CIA operative in the White House claims he heard a version of the phone call between President Trump and the President of Ukraine, and within weeks the president is impeached!

        If you don’t believe in the Deep State now, you never will. Just don’t expect to hear Jon Sopel mention it, ever.

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    • NCBBC says:

      The BBC are climate change hoaxers as they believe that climate change is a unique phenomenon caused by man and not the norm it is.

      All this is caused by poor education at school, Ignoring hard subjects for soft feel good material.

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  14. Fedup2 says:

    Digg
    I sgree – the bitter sounding ‘James Robbins ‘ obviously hates President Trump even more than comrades Sopel and Bryant . If Mr Trump is re elected in 10 months time those BBC types will go into full despair mode – and the democrats will try to impeach him for a second time .

    I think they resent that America isn’t a nanny state like the UK . America doesn’t like being told what to do – particularly by a mentally affected 16 year old mouthpiece for a frankly mad ecology movement .

    In my view the cult of the 16 year old , which the BBC embraces without question , is putting that cause back as people suffer the financial ( tax ) consequences of the ridiculous climate ‘emergency ‘ hysteria.

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    • NCBBC says:

      This hysteria may well panic some youngsters to commit suicide. Who will these climate hoaxers blame?

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  15. Fedup2 says:

    The guardian really hates Dominic Cummings . Really hates.

    Today it’s gone back to a ‘think tank’ article he did in 2004 where he describes the BBC as the enemy of the Conservative party /right wing .

    Apart from being true – it shows thar not much has changed – apart from the ever far leftward drift and exclusion of any other view apart from that approved by BBC group think – or ‘cognitive diversity ‘ as it is called in posh speak …

    But it was heartening to see that one remedy suggested by mr Cummings was for Conservative ministers to boycott the Today programme – a policy which thankfully is now in place – and if you notice – the presenters don’t mention this – it must be an editorial order because the BBC is so nervous about the licence review in 2022 – at least we know the licence tax is more likely to be ended than increased . Don’t pay it .

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      Guardian reading Snowflakes. I’ve seen them many times walking at speed with an exotic coffee in one hand and The Guardian in the other. Worn as a badge and probably never read.

      Cummings has been a brilliant choice by Boris. Cumming’s brain functions in an opposite way to the PM’s. And that is their combined strength.

      The Guardian and their ‘sista’ the BBC, prefer mumbling and complaint committees. Those days have gone.

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    • NCBBC says:

      An attack on the BBC is an attack on the Guardian.
      Guardian of what?

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  16. Guest Who says:

    Saw this, as retweeted by one Emily Mateless, whose likes and such on twitter are ‘selective’ at best. Maybe Fran will have a word?

    Comments are interesting. Clearly the BBC’s peroxide permatan is hoping her loyal following will not pay attention to the ‘could’ in a paper delivered free to her door.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      Note how The Guardian (Official Print Arm of the BBC) like to use the word ‘threaten’ rather than ‘could’ or ‘may’.

      Sounds a bit violent and fascist to me. I’m shocked and need to lie down.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      You’ve just got to just love the sense of self-importance in this nonsense. Imagine the scene: Ms Nandy is wandering around Westminster, copies of the Guardian and Radio Times in her hand, trying to think of something to be offended by. Suddenly, a voice in the shadows says ‘Pssst!’. Ms Nandy looks around: it’s Boris and key members of the cabinet. “Lisa” he says, “Don’t tell anybody, but we’re cancelling equal pay, maternity leave and holiday pay next year. But it’s secret.” Ms Nandy is non-plussed – she was expecting this all along as soon as she announced she was running for the Labour Party leadership. “Can I tweet about it?” she asks. “Oh, sure. Nobody reads your tweets. Just don’t let that Emily Mateless find out about it, okay. You know what she’s like…”. “I certainly do”, giggles Ms Nandy, almost appearing human for once.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Ian – and even worse – the UK could land up not following the laws laid down by the EU courts when we leave the EU – how did thar happen ?

        I don’t think the Big Ben bell will being ringing at 11pm on the 31st – but it will be replaced with a ceremonial burning of the EU flag proceeded by giving the ‘shtoppp brexit ‘ bloke getting his hat back .

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      • Guest Who says:

        Emily do like a ‘former’.

        And Lammy.

        Ivory and eb… burnt mince

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    • NCBBC says:

      How does one have Maternity pay and equal pay at the same time?

      Its also difficult to quantify equal pay for equal work. Who does the measurement, and how?

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  17. Fedup2 says:

    Toady
    Oh my god -OMG?) they had someone on talking about President Trump – who said that the ‘deplorables ‘ (see Hilary Clinton ) and African Americans are doing better under mr trump than under Obama .

    Poor Meeshall – just let that one go – then didn’t challenge the contention that America is suffering from a ‘feel good factor ‘. More despair for the BBC .

    And Robinson has a nice chat with that nice Lisa Nandi who said nice things which meant nothing . And Lisa said she was in my home town yesterday but I didn’t run into her . Her loss … I would have asked what she would do better with my money than I do ,

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, she is the better looking of all the candidates. More likely to charm Bojo?

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      • Guest Who says:

        All is relative. His current squeeze is deffo easier to see.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2
        Nah
        Now that the brummie one is gone it’s over to big nugee – still got her at 9/1 . She’s had talking lessons to try to make her sound calmer but that won’t last .

        Rayner as deputy will be the dream team for the 2024 election . And they can keep the man hating going as well .

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  18. andyjsnape says:

    Watched a video of people from Liverpool being interviewed re the tele tax. the only people they interviewed were either people who didn’t want the licence to change or others view was that they didn’t like to pay monthly, like the netflix model lol

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  19. andyjsnape says:

    bBc report..
    Black women speak out about Meghan

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/must_see/51189969/prince-harry-and-meghan-black-british-women-on-meghan

    Imagine changing the heading to White women speak out – is that racist then?

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  20. Guest Who says:

    Pesto got a Fiat 500 yet?

    Meanwhile, in the real world…

    Deep breaths, sofa sloths….

       19 likes

  21. Guest Who says:

    By coincidence I have just located my old Kung Fu kit cricket box. Now the tights and tutu….

       8 likes

  22. Guest Who says:

    The bbc. Nothing but repeats. In their honour…

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  23. Ed Hitter says:

    Alison Pearson has written an excellent, heartfelt piece in today’s Telegraph: “The grooming gang cover-up is Britain’s real racism scandal”.
    In it, she damns BBC’s Question Time last week for debating alleged racism regarding a privileged member of the Royal family while ignoring the mass rape of poor, young white kids by Manchester Pakistani gangs.
    Let’s see whether the rape gangs cover-up – and growing calls for a full public inquiry into that disgusting stitch up involving police, councils and community leaders (and even the BBC’s own lack of scrutiny) – manages to make it through the Question Time filter this week.

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  24. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Boy George is on and interviewed by Mishal

    Boy Gideon→George, that is. “When I was Chancellor I tried to argue for a tax on the internet/new tech companies”

    BoyGG: “It is much better to be part of a big trading bloc than to stand alone against a huge economy like the United States. It is better to be inside, making the rules as I argued at the time of the Referendum.”

    Our Mishal is not intelligent enough or quick enough to spot the obvious contradiction there. Mind you, saying so would not suit the BBC narrative that ‘The EU is wonderful. The UK should really stay in.’

    BoyGG really dropped himself in it as well. And we used to think you were the one with all the brains in the DynamicDuo. Now you know, BoyGG, why some/many of us voted to leave the EU.

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  25. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Time to scrap the House of Lords?

    Baroness Kidron is talking about the new Child Protection laws. Apparently GPS tracking of a mobile phone used by someone under 18 is to be removed.

    “But will that not make Child Abduction easier?” Nick Robinson asks not.

    “We know that drug dealers deliberately use children as couriers in their ‘County Lines’ gangs. Will that not make children as couriers more vulnerable to criminal exploitation?” Nick Robinson asks not.

    Not a good morning for the TOADY Presenters.

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  26. StewGreen says:

    on TalkRadio Ben Fogle is being given a platform to push his greendreaming
    “Hero to Zero Emission Miles Challenge: new school competition encourages low-emission travel ”
    JHB pushes back but not enough
    https://airqualitynews.com/2020/01/22/winner-of-ben-fogles-zero-emission-schools-challenge-announced/

    ” zero emission transport” is a PR buzzword
    cos in the real word building/maintaining any transport infrastructure is NOT zero-carbon
    only walking/cycling are close

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  27. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – The Northern Powerhouse

    The BBC demonstrate that they do not ‘do’ geography or transport. (They just charge it on expenses, like the ‘jolly’ to Davos, eh Mishal?) They are in the Tees Valley.

    Talk is something like ‘Why should an international investor or executive fly to London and on to Manchester and then take a grindingly slow train to Redcar?’

    Er, because they do not know there is an airport at Newcastle and an excellent rail line from Newcastle going south?

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    • Woolwich says:

      The irony here being that many people who live up here in the North East don’t even know about Tees Valley airport themselves! It’s NEVER featured as a start or end point for any flight I’ve ever considered taking. So how on earth the BBC managed to wash up there as opposed to NEWCASTLE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT is anyone’s guess.
      The links between Newcastle and London are excellent, you can get a train that does it in three hours or daily flights which are great for meetings in the Heathrow airports. It’s the links from the North East to the North West that need fixing, I can get from my house near Newcastle to London more quickly and in more comfort than I can get to the much closer Manchester, that service is little more than a glorified tube train.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Woolwich:

        Exactly. The “all roads lead to London” mentality must end. HS2 is just a £106 billion example of this. If I need to get to London it is not a problem, just two hours by train. It is transport across the north which needs major investment.

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  28. Woolwich says:

    Random musings on the last nights blipvert viewing of the BBC.
    A continuity announcer talking about a programme examining the effect of “our increasing world population”. Forget my immediate thought that perhaps a Logan’s Run style execution of everyone over 30 is the answer, but “our”? I’m pretty sure that UK birth rates are at their lowest, any increase in population isn’t of “our” doing.
    Then Davos. Only the BBC could lead by criticising America, oops sorry Trump, for their CO2 emissions………..and then say that they’re second behind China. I forget the actual figures but their contribution to the world totals are something like 14% vs 27%. That’s a distant second in anyone’s books. Our contribution? 1.1%. Seriously why are we even discussing it? Even IF CO2 is the problem, and it’s a jolly big IF, if we literally went back to the Stone Age tomorrow in this country the effect would be virtually nil. But did the BBC spot or comment about this or did they St Greta…

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  29. BRISSLES says:

    Lisa Nandy seems to be a very nice lady, but listening to her now setting out her stall as a main contender for the Labour Party, well honestly I cant see it. She has no ‘gravitas’ and sounds and looks like a nursery school teacher. I don’t much like any of the potential candidates, but I suppose Keir Starmer would be the more statesman like figure than his opponents.

    Where have the politicians of yesteryear gone ? we had smart, articulate characters with ‘personality’, they had good debating skills and carried themselves with a statesmen like posture. Can anyone imagine – if she laughably became PM, see her take a serious role in world affairs, because that’s want we want in our MPs and future Prime Ministers. Like I said, a nice enough lady, but having the cut and thrust of taking on the PM at the despatch box ? no.

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  30. Foscari says:

    The way that the BBC treats ” Operation Augusta” in Manchester
    sums up everything which is wrong with the BBC in regards to
    their obsession with diversity in particular their belief in
    “the religion of peace”
    Just watch the difference how LBC’S Maajid Nawaz reacts to
    the way the mostly Pakistan Muslim men groomed, raped,
    tortured and even caused the death of girls , mostly underage
    all over the North of England and other parts of the UK. You can
    see it on You Tube.
    Then we have Newsnight last night on BBC 1. The last part
    being devoted to the same subject . But this time we are told
    that they are ADULT MEN!!!!!!! No mention is given to their
    ethnicity. It says it all about the BBC!!

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  31. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51177299

    BBC NEWS Entertainment & Arts

    The writers breathing life into black British history
    By Ian Youngs
    Entertainment & arts reporter
    22 January 2020

    Naturally this NEWS is not news.
    Just like BBC “Stories” and BBC “Ideas” this is the BBC producing the “news” that it is unable to publicise as
    real news.

    More pretending that the, bottom of the IQ pile blacks, have done something significant in the UK.
    Just more lying, racist, anti-white BBC propaganda.
    Alas as a non TV licence payer I will be unable to view these masterpieces of BBC impartiality.

    Shut it down PDQ Boris, no redundancy or pensions, it will not be miseed.

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  32. Guest Who says:

    Wyre Davies liked this.

    Bit of a old blonde fancier?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Guest, I’m a bit of an economist and I would tell Helle that if you do ‘take action on the climate’ then we are drastically (see what I did there?) doomed.

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      • Guest Who says:

        U2S – I was a bit of an engineer, and the unofficial motto was ‘doing for a shilling what any idiot can do for a pound’.

        And whilst no project ever went as planned, budget and time estimates were key, with contingency planning.

        So I would tell Helle that giving her, Greta, Mark Carney, Roger Harrabin and George Monbiot trillions based on ‘bit doomed’ projections, especially to p*ss away on idiotic compo guilt buy offs or geo engineering jokes, is not money well spent vs. reducing waste, improving efficiency, sensible defence planning and management of resources.

        Megharry’s dad driving to Davos on the last Lithium in Africa to virtue signal whilst Mishal flys overhead to gush as time is a bit tight… ain’t it.

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    • vlad says:

      So what you’re saying is, Trump enjoys murdering baby kangaroos and koalas?

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    • NCBBC says:

      Fires in Australia were started by Arsonists. Hundreds arrested.

      Meanwhile, hydrocarbons usage with engineering has lifted billions of people from poverty, into a comfortable life, just as the two ladies in the video.

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  33. StewGreen says:

    More Allison Pearson
    maybe she is worth following on Twitter

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  34. Dover Sentry says:

    I might have a couple of Spitfires this evening and celebrate the Glorious Twelfth (12th December GE).

    BBC is now in the firing line and knows it. Lord Hall and his £400m salary is going home to spend more time with his pensions.

    The Glorious Thirty First (31st January Brexit) is about to happen.

    I wonder if Wetherspoons are selling Lancaster Bomber ale?

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  35. digg says:

    BBC R4 running a massive Muslim defence article live right now, Muslim lady claiming.. We are always suffering hate crime, we are the victims, BNP attack us, mosque attacks etc. etc. etc.

    This is so obviously to counter the shit from Rotherham…

    The BBC are trying to sully then bury the Rotherham outcry and are less than despicable doing this right now.

    Who the hell is really controlling the BBC?

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    • Thoughtful says:

      I’ve had to turn it off it’s that bad!

      They talk about so called attacks, but I can tell you most Mosques don’t have windows so how can they have smashed windows?

      Who in their right mind is going to travel through a Muslim area and attack the Mosque? They wouldn’t get out alive!

      There’s not even a thought from the Biased BBC that these might not be real or even self inflicted because that can’t be allowed to cross their minds.

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      • StewGreen says:

        @Digg did she mention that when a Birmingham mosque had windows damaged, the culprit turned out to be a Muslim.

        “Samayya: How Safe Are Our Mosques?
        My Name Is…
        Samayya Afzal takes a deeply personal look at the issue of Islamophobia and mosque safety in the UK, as she seeks answers from faith leaders, fellow worshippers and the government”
        https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000dgy3

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        • StewGreen says:

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        • digg says:

          I think we can assume from this that the Muslim management lobby at the BBC have a great deal of power within the organisation now due to it’s non-stop diversity drive. The BBC run so scared of this that they have to go along with anything demanded including this piece of pure propaganda to avoid accusations of bias. Our powerful independent state broadcaster indeed!

          They even wheeled on a local who whined that local mosques had to be given extra protection just because some Soldier or other had a accident in a London street and ended up full of knife wounds and dead!

          If they were the brave investigative organisation they try to make us believe they would be a dog with a bone re the Rotherham / Manchester Police – Local Council revelations.

          Those 80 odd girls have all been sacrificed!

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  36. Nibor says:

    I don’t know if any of you have mentioned this , but the £200 million that the BBC claims would be lost if non payment of the TV tax was decriminalised must be a made up figure .
    The BBC is in a dilemma . It claims to be the fairest most loved media outlet in the world , but knows it cant tell the truth ; that no one will pay for that licence if its not backed by fines and imprisonment .
    So it gives a figure which is large enough to mean something , but not large enough to mean it wont collect anything .

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    • Banania says:

      Can any one explain why “decriminalizing” the offence will change matters. Surely there will still be a debt to repay, and they can send the bailiffs in?

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  37. Thoughtful says:

    Radio 4 schedule for today

    6:00 – 9:00 Today – Left wing biased news

    9:00 – 9:30 Soul Music about Black musician Otis Reading

    9:30 – 9:45 The Boy Who Died – Recorded at the Shambala Festival

    9:45 – 10:00 George Orwell in 5 words – better not allow any more than 5 for the revisionsys eh?

    10:00 – 10:40 Womens Hour – bias so bad that even the BBC had to send the far left Fascist on an impartiality course which did nothing!

    10:40 – 10:55 15 minute drama It’s Jackie’s (Meera Syal) leaving party

    10:55 – 11:00 The listening project with Angelica and Shobhna

    11:00 – 11:30 How safe are our Mosques – a plea for even more government spending on Islam.

    11:30 – 12:00 Conversations from a long marriage – not a real oneof course, an imaginary one.

    12:00 – 12:04 New with the usual bias

    12:05 – 12:18 Comming up for Air Short Orwell novel taking a rather dim view of capitalism

    12:18 – 12:57 You & Yours – consumer program no info about the issues to be discussed

    12:57 – 13:00 Weather – climate change biased

    13:00 – 13:45 TWATO usual left wing bias

    13:45 -14:00 Green Originals modern pioneers of the environmental movement.

    14:00 – 14:15 The Archers even farming isn’t safe from the bias!

    14:15 – 15:00 The ‘real’ George Orwell – written by a man so far to the left he formed “Red Shift Theatre Company”.

    15:00 – 15:30 Money Box Live – working in the gig economy or how to even make money management biased !

    15:30 – 16:00 Inside Health Rural healthcare

    16:00 – 16:30 Thinking Allowed (or not in todays BBC) New [Leftist] research on how society works presented by a man who was a member of the Trotskyist International Socialists.

    16:30 – 17:00 The Media Show with Amol Rajan – more excuses as to why the BBC is biased.

    17:00 – 18:00 PM usual biased news output

    18:00 – 18:30 News – more biased news output

    18:30 – 19:00 Cowedy with a seriously camp only marginally funny gay man

    19:00 – 19:15 The Archers see previous

    19:15 – 19:45 Front Row – Theatre luvvies discussing leftism in plays

    19:45 – 20:00 15 minute theatre see previous

    20:00 – 20:45 The Fix – Debt Debt & poverty

    If that doesn’t even convince a skeptic about the level of bias in the BBC then nothing will !

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    • Doublethinker says:

      There are many contributors to this site who frequently view or listen to the BBC and then go on to record the awful bias of the offerings served up by the broadcaster. They make me feel guilty because I simply don’t have the courage or stamina to sit through the biased tripe served up 24/7 by the state funded broadcaster. I salute and admire those brave contributors but hope that they will soon be relived of this onerous duty because the foul corporation will either be scrapped or become funded by subscription only.

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      • Deborah says:

        I rarely manage more than a couple of minutes of BBC at a time and that includes tv and radio and everything from supposed comedy, to supposed drama to supposed news. This is because that is how long I need listen before I hear wokeness, be it Climate, politics or race issues. I just switch off. But so do many others. The BBC cannot blame all the drop in audience figures to Netflix.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Thoughtful
      Thank you for taking the trouble to do that running list . I do it a few times but find myself getting ‘ angry / down / cheesed off by that radio station .

      But today , whilst driving my diesel car , I listened to BoJo beating up comrade Corbyn at PMQs. This was followed by someone called ‘Emma ‘ having a cosy chat with a couple of metro bubble dwellers about the number of wimmin in the government .

      Such sexism appalled me . Is there such a desperate need for girl politicians in the government . What is the qualitative difference ?

      Someone please explain to me the desperate difference between what a male and female politician will do ?

      I had not heard Radio Sid for ages and I can understand why it’s avoided .

      Then Mardell on the World at One interviewing a very upset lady whose son was special needs and drowned in a ‘care home ‘. It was about care homes which don’t care and the corruption of the CQC – although no one used the term ‘corruption ‘.

      Anyway you could hear that Mardell could care less about the subject and treated this poor lady with breezy kind of style often employed by care – less bbc types – our Justin on Toady is a classic example – until it’s something they are personally interested .

      If you – reader – have personal experience of a ‘bad ‘ care home you will know what I am writing about …..the use of force and pharmaceuticals to give the staff a quiet life so that they can sleep or watch the TV …. that stuff .

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  38. Thoughtful says:

    More proof of Theresa Mays Communist sympathies has emerged with the news that she displayed a signed copy of a Stormzy album.

    This is despite the fact that he hated everything her party was supposed to stand for.

    How on Earth did this cowardly useless incompetent party ever allow a Communist to become their leader, and then for many of them to defend her when it became crystal clear what she actually was?

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  39. Framer says:

    To the BBC: Flamur Beqiri, a Swedish national, died yards from his home in Battersea Church Road, south-west London, on Christmas Eve.

    To the rest of the world: an Albanian gangster given Swedish nationality at speed knowing he will go to the UK.

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  40. Guest Who says:

    A BBC staff member has crept up in my estimation.

    Hope he is still in work tomorrow.

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    • Guest Who says:

      It will be interesting if colleagues react as they did to Laurence Fox.

      Or are sensible enough to stay under their rocks now.

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  41. Sluff says:

    On the BBC 1 1 pm news there was a story about restoring the peat bogs in the Pennines.
    Slipped in at the end was an assertion that 8% of CO2 emssions in the UK are from peat bogs!!!!!!!

    That’s a very high number and maybe there. Re some Abbottonomics going on with the percentages.

    But if true (it was after all on the BBC – hahaha) has anyone mentioned this to St Gretha of Thumberg or St David of Attenborough?

    I suppose ‘restoring peat bogs’ does not quite have the Far Left collectivist anti-individual zip of ‘ban the car’ or ‘ban air travel’.

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  42. Sluff says:

    On the BBC 1 1 pm news there was a story about restoring the peat bogs in the Pennines.
    Slipped in at the end was an assertion that 8% of CO2 emssions in the UK are from peat bogs!!!!!!!

    That’s a very high number and maybe there. Re some Abbottonomics going on with the percentages.

    But if true (it was after all on the BBC – hahaha) has anyone mentioned this to St Gretha of Thumberg or St David of Attenborough?

    I suppose ‘restoring peat bogs’ does not quite have the Far Left collectivist anti-individual zip of ‘ban the car’ or ‘ban air travel’.

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  43. Sluff says:

    On the BBC 1 1 pm news there was a story about restoring the peat bogs in the Pennines.
    Slipped in at the end was an assertion that 8% of CO2 emssions in the UK are from peat bogs!!!!!!!

    That’s a very high number and maybe there. Re some Abbottonomics going on with the percentages.

    But if true (it was after all on the BBC – hahaha) has anyone mentioned this to St Gretha of Thumberg or St David of Attenborough?

    I suppose ‘restoring peat bogs’ does not quite have the Far Left collectivist anti-individual zip of ‘ban the car’ or ‘ban air travel’.

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  44. Sluff says:

    On BBC1 1 pm news.
    A story about restoring peat bogs in the Pennines.
    Slipped in at the end was an assertion that these bogs create 8% of all UK carbon emissions !!!!
    That seems a huge number and maybe there are some Abbottonomics going on here with the percentages. But if true (it was after all on the BBC – haha) has anyone told St Gretha of Thumberg or St David of Attenborough?

    I fear ‘restoring peat bogs’ may not have quite the same Far Left collectivist, anti-individual zip of ‘ban the private car’ or ‘ban air travel’.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Methane I think, Sluff, from peat bogs. Only CO2 when they catch fire. Which they can do, without any human help, although discarded ciggies have always been a problem along with a more modern one; mobile barbecue kits.

      Am in favour of their restoration. We will be needing peat to burn to keep warm if the mentalistEnviros get their way on GCH.

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      • Sluff says:

        Aha. In the immortal claimed words of Ben Bradlee, ‘I screwed up but I wasn’t wrong’.
        Chemically this may very well be true but in that case the bias is a different one, by deliberately confusing CO2 emissions with CH4 emissions – I wondered why they only mentioned ‘carbon emissions’.
        Now why ever would they do that ?

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Sluff, to be fair it is all very complex. In a way, us generalists who have had a bit (or more) of a scientific education and who remember BBC ‘inform & educate’ when they did it thoroughly and without their biases in the good old days and learned stuff from Armand, Michaela, Jacques-Yves, Davids Attenborough and Bellamy (in their youth – before AGW), we have a bit of an advantage.

          We can sit on the side and point out a conflict of evidence and ask awkward questions. You were in a Bradlee moment and right in a way. Why do they do it? Many reasons, two main ones?

          It is on one hand because a disparate group of mostly well-meaning people have been infiltrated by anarcho/Communists to wreck firstly the US economy but also every other developed and developing economy in the world. I suspected this early on. (Should have written a book. Would anyone have published it, let alone read it?)

          I suspected that the Communists (and Anarcho variants) were hiding in the Green movement before Berlin Wall came down. As soon as Major & Lamont introduced the Fuel Duty Escalator in 1992, I knew for certain. Why attack the motor car when electricity generation was a far greater polluter? (OK they are not Communists but wanted to burnish the Conservative image with ‘Green’ while re-filling the BoEngland coffers after Black Wednesday without taxing the wealthy and high earners.)

          We have seen this fiscal progression since the 1980s: attack oil, the motorist, then flying and only later turn to electricity and attack nuclear & promote wind turbines. Why? Who produces oil, cars & airplanes in big numbers and uses nuclear for electricity in a big way? The USA.

          When the US became a net oil importer the attention switched from pollution to ‘peak oil’ scares. Now they’re self-sufficient & starting to export oil again, the attack switches now to fracking. Bit of a give-away. Apparently, some (many?) in the Green movement are now attacking ‘green’ and very renewable hydro-power. Who da thunked it? They really want to keep humankind in the dark as we head back to the Dark Ages.

          This is the second big reason. Fascistic-Communism has done away with the Creator God. But it’s not easy post-Berlin 1989, to get people to believe in the communist god, ie. mankind. Capitalism and ‘the West’ won a massive victory, thanks in part to a heroic part of human nature that leads to endeavour. (If it helps, think Pilgrim’s Progress at this point.)

          Instead let’s create worship of the planet and the natural world and also create a spirit of fear surrounding our home planet. Mankind is back to being a god again, that ol’ Genesis Chapter 3 temptation. 🙂 We can control the climate.

          Hah!

          We tried to control the weather in the 1960s. The US & Russia & satellites threw trillions at it in today’s money and found they could not really do it apart from occasional successes with cloud seeding.

          Don’t get me wrong: I’m something of a conservationist, very much a small ‘c’ conservative. I don’t think we should deliberately wreck the planet but the resources are here for us to use. As I pointed out somewhere this week, we can only care for the environment and the natural world from a position of affluence.

          But that’s why the BBC and its journos all thoroughly believe the Climate Alarmists and write their pieces to a formula. The blind trying to lead people who may – just – have some eyesight left.

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    • Banania says:

      I’m beginning to get the point: something about peat bogs?

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  45. Sluff says:

    How I wish this otherwise wonderful website would just upload straighforwardly

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    • Guest Who says:

      If it helps anyone tekkie, my Mac advises a 524 error at the BBBC server.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Guest, yeah, I got into a horrible situation with that yesterday or Monday and totally lost my internet connection. Tried all ways to get it back but gave up in the end and did something else.

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  46. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Up there ^ Doublethinker mentioned others who watch bbc shows and wonders how we manage to put up with it.
    Here’s the trick.

    The bbc is a big joke now so when you watch it you play the bbc bingo game.
    See how long it is before they mention global warming/cooling/climate change (whichever it is whilst watching)
    Spot all the bias.
    See the presenters/guests and see how many boxes are ticked.
    Listen for their fanatical adoration of all things islamickle.

    Simply put, have a good laugh at how pathetic the bbc is and how its extreme pc wokeness is contaminating everything they do.

    You can’t take the bbbc seriously any more so get the family to sit round any bbbc offering and play bbbc bingo. A point for every spot. (Have your calculator handy to tot up the scores)

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    • Woolwich says:

      Very true, that being said I do get a sickly feeling when I see who the guests are on The Graham Norton Show. It’s something I haven’t actually watched for years and just as an exercise I look on the Sky planner banner to check who’s on…..and go “no”. The One show isn’t quite so bad, but it’s not good by any stretch, only better by comparison of how low Graham Norton’s guests set that bar. Honourable mentions go to QI, Mock The Week, Have I Got News For You…..I’m wasting everyone’s time, honourable mentions go to ALL panel based comedy/quizzes with the possible exception of Would I Lie To You.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      EG, haven’t watched in years but I do play that game with R5 Live. Add trans and mental health issues to the bingo card.

      Although I do miss the BBC4 docs which were very good. If only you could watch them elsewhere

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    • Guest Who says:

      The ‘comedienne’ the BBC wheeled on for the Newsnight mutual bukkake session was on twitter subsequently decrying as invalid people who were commenting on BBC tripe examples they had seen… on twitter.

      Such stupidity must take a lot of inbreeding.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      I appreciate your suggested anger and health management techniques but surely there comes a point , sooner or later, in my case sooner, when you can’t stay calm and continue to see the funny side of things. Seriously the BBC winds me up within a very short time of switching on and the only way to stay calm is to switch off .

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    • Banania says:

      I have another game, involving switching through all the main channels and adding up the score: on how many, at a given time, is there a person of colour on the screen. The game used to have a name but now it is not called anything.

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  47. Thoughtful says:

    A really strange story breaking that the Saudi crown Prince MBS sent a corrupt viseo message to Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos in order to hack his phone, which he did, and then gave / sold the photos of his affair to the national enquirer.

    The motivation is alleged to be the Washingon Post owned by Bezos being critical over Jamal Khashoggi who was employed as a columnist prior to MBS having him murdered.

    It would appear that the United Nations are handling the investigation and the announcement, which again appears strange, I don’t recall any similar kind of precident for this.

    If it is true then it is further evidence of the moral corruption of this regime and those in the West who support it.

    Very odd indeed.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7915897/UN-investigators-set-reveal-proof-Jeff-Bezoss-cell-phone-hacked-Saudi-Crown-Prince.html

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  48. StewGreen says:

    R4 3pm news “Davos: Prince Charles calls for ‘paradigm shift’ to tackle climate change” – live updates https://telegraph.co.uk/business/2020

    Next prog begins with a BAME Uber driver item
    driving Rory Cellan Jones apart
    ..no discussion about where his foreign accent is from

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    • Old Goat says:

      I suspect that the words of any supposed royal personage will be regarded with some suspicion, if their activities of late are anything to go by.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Or to the rest of the world:

      Prince Charles flies into Davos on a private jet generating 6 tons of needless CO2, and then virtue signals by driving to the conference in an electric Jaguar because he thinks no one will notice the private jet!

      And we call Megan a hypocrit !

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      • Absolute Shower says:

        Not looking forward to him becoming King.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Poor old Charlie. He’s a bit of a proper one. HRH’s last Royal prediction of Planet Doom is about two and a half years overdue, three full years sometime during 2020.

        Good job we don’t stone False Prophets these days.

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  49. Sluff says:

    By the way, by what mode of transport did ‘zero emissions’ St Greta of Thumberg get to Davos?
    It is landlocked so not by sail. Wooden skis perhaps ?

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  50. StewGreen says:

    Britain continues to decline to be a corrupt banana republic

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