Midweek Thread 15 January 2020

The biased BBC is going through the motions of box ticking on Operation Augusta – the failed inquiry by Greater Manchester Police into the sexual exploitation of young girls by Pakistani Muslim Paedophile Rape gangs .The report will be forgotten in a day , lessons won’t be learnt even after a report on it. The fear is that in forgotten towns in Britain vile sexual crime against young girls is still going on with both police and so called social services looking away with the Main Stream Media (BBC) complicit in failing to confront it. But let’s spend more media time talking about an American actress who married an English Prince .

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406 Responses to Midweek Thread 15 January 2020

  1. taffman says:

    “Climate change: Last decade confirmed as warmest on record.”
    So the home gets warmer and we turn our thermostats down, thus savaging money on gas/oil central heating, In turn lessening CO2 and carbon footprint ?
    No ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Actually for the UK, the Met Office say it’s the second warmest in their records.

         12 likes

      • Kaiser says:

        apparently 2019 was hotter than 2018

        im having trouble reconciling that with 2018 hose pipe ban and long glorius roasting summer

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    • Idiotboy says:

      Anyone older than 50 with a functioning memory knows this claim is total nonsense. The desperate tone of the people pushing this garbage becomes more strident with each mad assertion that somehow, by driving less, turning down the central heating and taking holidays in Dunstable, we can make the weather cooler. Utter bo!!ox.

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  2. Dover Sentry says:

    Daily Mail:

    “John Simpson claims the Government is ‘limbering up’ to launch a ‘major attack’ on the BBC”

    “Simpson, 75, said he believes the Conservatives are seeking ‘pay back'”

    “It comes as Boris Johnson announced he was ‘looking at’ abolishing licence fee”

    “Simpson said it was ninth time in his career a government had gone for the BBC”

    “World affairs editor said the licence fee was necessary for the BBC’s survival”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7883921/Broadcaster-John-Simpson-claims-Government-limbering-launch-major-attack-BBC.html?ito=amp_twitter_share-top&fbclid=IwAR2gvM2fwoQVyoWRmx4phaSQN6mg8cgUM853lSfYY-tgs5Nc_hOGaWMtvzg

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      “Simpson said it was ninth time in his career a government had gone for the BBC”
      A cat has nine lives. Perhaps we’ll get the bastards next time, then.

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  3. taffman says:

    \\”Our centres have become magnets for ideas and talent, new jobs and investment,” Lord Hall told BBC staff on Wednesday.
    “That’s really good news. But I know we can go further. We can do so much more for this country – and we’re going to – starting this year.”//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51118174
    No need to fund the broadcaster any more by robbing the poor to give to the rich then ?
    Bin the telly tax.

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  4. StewGreen says:

    R4 Media Show guest says we given a leak on Dec 28th about the Megxit plan.
    He then went to their media team, but 10 days later Harry and Megs put out their announcement whilst he was holding back from publishing his scoopm

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      The probable Megxit Plan:

      31st January 2020: Transition Period starts: Harry becomes Lieutenant Governor of British Columbia, Megan becomes Governor of California.

      1st January 2012: Transition Period ends: Harry becomes King of Canada, Megan becomes Queen of America. North America becomes united by a Royal ceremony in Windsor/Detroit.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        The Royals must think that the Diana years weren’t that bad after all, compared to the havoc and chaos these two idiots are causing now.

        Its always a sad state of affairs when Dad and Daughter are at loggerheads, and there were times when my Dad embarrassed me to the core, but it didn’t stop me from loving him or put me on non speaking terms with him.

        Reports in the press say that Harry ‘admonished’ Thomas Markle in a phone call for ‘bringing hurt to his daughter’ at the time of the wedding. Jeez what bloody cheek ! first, he never even met the chap face to face, and second, he barely knew his fiancée so he should have kept his nose out of it, as he clearly had only one side (hers) of the story. Never a good idea in family disputes.

        Personally I hope the Mail on Sunday with Thomas Markle’s help, wipe the floor with this pair, they need to realise they cant go around the world dictating their own agenda – with the help of wealthy friends and hangers on.

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  5. StewGreen says:

    DUP’s Arlene Fost and Sinn Fein leader dating … don’t think so

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  6. digg says:

    Radio 4 has been non-stop climate klaxoning all day today.

    Yep its the new Brexit for sure!

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  7. taffman says:

    “Rebecca Long-Bailey: What’s in a hyphen?”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51105056
    ‘Obviously’ far more important news than that of the wholesale and industrial rape of our young girls ?
    You just couldn’t make it up .

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      The Honourable Rebecca Roseanne Long-Bailey MP. Politics, Sociology & Law (Unknown exact qualifications)

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  8. Ian Rushlow says:

    Good news for coke dealers and Romanian rent boys: Keith Vaz is back in town!
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7891197/Ex-MP-Keith-Vaz-makes-political-return-sleaze-shame-takes-local-Labour-party.html

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  9. vlad says:

    Is this on Al-beeb? I suspect not.

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  10. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/01/15/liberal-democrat-peer-britain-will-be-like-nazi-germany-leaving-eu/
    Liberal Democrat Lord: Britain Will Be Like Nazi Germany After Leaving EU

    In the latest example of fearmongering from the EU loyalist Liberal Democrats, Lord Tony Greaves, Baron of Pendle, used a debate on Boris Johnson’s
    Brexit withdrawal bill in the House of Lords to proclaim that the United Kingdom in 2020 is “reminiscent” of Nazi Germany in the 1930s.

    The Liberal Democrat peer later insisted that he was not comparing the United Kingdom to Nazi Germany but rather to the Weimar Republic, which ended in 1933.
    “What I am saying is that some of the conditions which exist in this country are similar to conditions which existed in Germany between the wars, before the Nazis came to power and took over,” said Lord Greaves, as if this would be substantially less hyperbolic.

    “I am worried about this because there is that sentiment amongst a hostile minority of the population.”

    [The hostile minority is in parliament and their hostility is towards white people, especially men. Not, to my knowledge, reported by the BBC .]

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    • Fedup2 says:

      LastChance

      One of the many problems of the Lords is once in never out . It harbours fruit loop ‘ liberals’ and once in a while one says something so off the scale thar people actually notice the drivel . Waste of oxygen . And taxpayers cash .

      I really hope they try to delay brexit again .

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      He must mean that we are reversing what happened in 1934.

      In 1934, they went from rule by a German who believed in his selfless service to Germany, to an Austrian who wanted to Unite Europe.

      In 2020, we go from a United Europe ruled by a German, to rule by a Briton who believes in his selfless service to Great Britain.

      1934 to 2020 was an aberration that caused a World War and campaigns and protest for freedom and the return of democracy to Europe.

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    • vlad says:

      I think we’ve left Project Fear well behind and have crossed the border into Project Psychotic Dementia.

      And just for a laugh, in the same article is our friend Barmy Lammy comparing Brexit Tories to worse than the Nazis.

      (Isn’t that kind of language incitement and shouldn’t he be done for hate speech?)

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Very sad when someone as ignorant of history as Lammy is to be spouting out about nazism . It’s also an insult to those millions who were killed by that regime . I was reading recently about the Holocaust . I didn’t realise that of the 6 million Jews murdered half were polish .

        Lammy really could do with shutting up until he has been educated – if that is possible of course . Maybe there is something about representing Harringey which zaps their head . His predecessor – Bernie Grant was thick as well.

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        • pertelote says:

          Pressed report by mistake..sorry!

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        • G says:

          Fed,
          “Lammy really could do with shutting up until he has been educated….”
          As his ex colleague Naz Shah said in other circumstances, “they should keep their mouths shut for the sake of diversity….”

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  11. digg says:

    If you have listened or watched any BBC today you will know you have been beaten by the biggest Climate stick they have used for some time and the Guardian have admitted they intend to scream as loud as they can from now on (of course it’s a planned coupling as we all know)… so lets get another view from a source with considerably more intelligence and credibility then both of those…

    Another Climate Alarmist Admits Real Motive Behind Warming Scare

    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/another-climate-alarmist-admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/

    Basically if you support this crap you are literally supporting the trashing of your own existence for Political Global Power ends by people who couldn’t give a flying toss about you.

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    • G says:

      digg,
      Absolutely. “Follow the money trail” and all will be revealed……..
      “Three Trillion Dollar industries”, set up on the back of so-called, ‘Climate Change’. They must support CC at all costs.

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  12. Sluff says:

    Absolute grade A shit stirring on the bBBC 6pm news.

    A few days ago I was chatting with a French aquaintance, who has lived and worked in the UK for 20 plus years.
    She has applied for settled status. It took a few days but everything is OK. Some of her pals had a 24 hour turn round.
    In other words, no issues.

    Meanwhile…….on the BBC news we have a main feature. A German woman, married, lived and worked here for 17 years, is ‘worried’ about Brexit. A MAIN story!!!!!

    Absolutely pathetic scaremongering.
    They are still in total denial.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      Was the German woman called Kirsten Farage. Her husband is on LBC at the moment.

         22 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      Sluff
      Agree entirely….my Italian and Polish friends have had no issue whatsoever – The UK is actually very good at this sort of admin. Ask anyone who has worked in Europe especially places like Italy and Spain – well in fact anywhere.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Local BBC this morning kept repeating the story of a tennis player yesterday leaving due to the poor smoke affected at air.
    I thought that was weird, cos I new rain was predicted for today
    … Then when I checked I found the rain had already started before the BBC had run this doom story

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  14. StewGreen says:

    7pm The Church of Climate Doom opens its doors for a big sermon from The Reverend Jon Snow
    ..on Channel4 News.

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  15. Peter Grimes says:

    Not Al Beeb but Brillo is currently interviewing Lisa Nonentity about her ‘leadership’ ambitions. She said that Labour had failed to appeal to the UK population for about ‘the last 15 years’.

    Correlation is not causation but I wonder if it might just have crossed her tiny mind that this was about the time we started to welcome hundreds of thousands of EE economic migrants to the detriment of the workers who they claimed to represent?

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      Exactly.

      Labour lost the plot long ago.

      You can only rely on voters voting for a red rosette on a dead donkey for a very limited time. That time was reached on December the 12th last year.

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  16. john in cheshire says:

    This is from the Vlad Tepes website. It’s all interesting and disturbing but two items are worth noting;

    namely, the extreme Communist infiltration of the Bernie Sanders Presidential campaign team and

    One of the bearded muslim thugs in Iran wants to chop into pieces our ambassador to that God forsaken country.

    https://vladtepesblog.com/2020/01/15/project-veritas-to-release-part-2-on-sanders-and-more-links-1-january-15-2020/

    Anything about these matters on the racist far-left bbc?

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  17. StewGreen says:

    30th January The BBC made an item and webpage on R4Today @GretaThunberg and Sir David Attenborough’s chat
    – Jan 6 BBC Radio 6 Music promoted it on Twitter
    – Jan 7 Radio4 promoted it on Twitter
    – Jan 10 Radio4 promoted it on Twitter
    I bet they did also on Facebook
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/270DpZjTRtdscc0qbQbmDH7/10-things-we-learned-when-greta-thunberg-met-david-attenborough

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  18. StewGreen says:

    TV is all Climate doom yet on Twitter Trump and friends are bragging
    “in Washington, the President just signed a landmark Phase One Trade Agreement with China — making good on his promise to fix the failed policies of the past by fighting for American workers and American industries.”

    Isn’t that news ?

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  19. StewGreen says:

    Yeh if no other big MSM is reporting a seemingly big story that means it’s always FakeNews ..doesn’t it ?
    Doesn’t it ?

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  20. StewGreen says:

    Yeh EU communication been working very well, NOT
    the system was that when foreign criminals committed a crime here in the UK, the record was automatically forwarded to their home country.
    A glitch in favour of the crims meant this didn’t happen for 5 years.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Stew
      Haven’t heard anything on BBC about this – you would think it was more important than Hairy and Meghead

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      • Sluff says:

        Just imagine if this cock up had been by a private sector company like Crapita or G4S. Corbyn et al would be up and down the issue faster than a ferret in a bicycle pump, and it would be the first item on the BBC news for about three days.
        But it’s the public sector. So yet again there is a cover up, no accountability, little publicity, and a general air of resigned silence.
        I do wish more people would join the dots when the Far Left come out with their plans to nationalise everything.

        Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    The Times about Manchester inquiry findings
    – Operation Augusta : 57 victims, 97 suspects
    ..yet police decided to abandon it and LOST the minutes of that meeting,
    …Also a few senior officers refused to speak to this new inquiry.
    In the coroners report into one victims death, there were documents which the current coroner refuses to hand over.
    .. Manchester police’s concern is to coverup their failures.
    .. a pattern repeated across Britain

    Part 2 of the inquiry will be about the Rochdale operation called Operation Span

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  22. StewGreen says:

    “UK tech start-ups win more investment than France & Germany combined”
    … see that is proof this world is racist.

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  23. StewGreen says:

    TV crews face ban from College Green
    Not before time
    The new Speaker says it’s a security risk.

    Don’t laugh the idea is that people like Anna Soubry are in danger.
    https://digitaledition.telegraph.co.uk/editions/edition_vqxyB_2020-01-14/data/771070/index.html

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  24. StewGreen says:

    2007-2011 a priest conducted 475 weddings
    mostly they were sham marriages
    but the 2014 court case collapsed
    The 2017 disciplinary case didn’t finish cos he claimed to have a bad back.
    .
    Only now have the church fired him cos they realise he’s never handed over the £60K wedding fees over
    Only now reported in the Telegraph

       31 likes

  25. StewGreen says:

    What is the pub in the Archers called ?

    Nope it’s now called “The B at Ambridge”
    ..The Telegraph reviewer is not impressed.

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  26. digg says:

    The Independent..

    “The ‘playing the race card’ accusation is just a way to silence us”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/16/playing-the-race-card-racism-black-experience

    Thus…. Playing the Race Card….

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  27. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning Emole leads with the safe bet that is Sir Boaty channelling his inner XR; the propaganda…

    ***

    By Andrew McFarlane

    Attenborough warns of climate ‘crisis moment’

    Story detail

    When it comes to climate change, “we’re refusing to take steps that we know have to be taken”. That’s the damning verdict of naturalist Sir David Attenborough, who declares “the moment of crisis has come”, in a BBC News interview to launch a year of special coverage on the subject of climate change. The Our Planet Matters project – across digital, TV and radio – includes a new monthly Climate Check podcast from BBC Weather, and coverage of debates and events around the globe.

    As part of it, Sir David plans a new hour-long documentary – Extinction: The Facts – to examine the fragile state of the natural world. On Radio 4’s PM programme, Rianna Croxford will look at how we can respond to the climate crisis at home by examining the environmental impact of individual household items. And our coverage goes back to basics, with global science correspondent Rebecca Morelle explaining what we mean when we talk about climate change. We have also produced seven charts to help you visualise the problem and understand how aspects such as the places we live and the food we eat affect the situation.

    Read all about Our Planet Matters and, if you’re baffled by any climate-related terms, try our translation tool.

    ***
    A ‘translation tool’ of science into BBC ‘settled science’ sounds a hoot.

    Plus a raft of female Rs to help ‘guide’ us sounds… too bbc to credit.

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  28. AsISeeIt says:

    Can’t help but notice the BBC banging on and on about climate change.

    I check BBC on-line for the national newspaper front pages but find myself assailed by David Attenborough’s dire warnings of impending apocalypse unless we do… well, something like pressure our politicians (of the more conservative persuasian) to do something like…. well, there it gets a bit vague and suspiciously amorphous.

    But it pretty much amounts to Global Government, severe restrictions on us plebs’ lifestyles, more taxes, transfers of cash to the third world – and that type of thing.

    Anyway, Mr AsISeeIt has less to post about these days since he happily absorbs much less BBC. Already hounded off the once stimulating Radio 4 by a battalion of self-interested male-hating harpies spouting leftist tosh he sought refuge in sport on 5 Live. Oh dear. Leftist politics gradually enveloped the sport.

    Annoyed by the BBC’s obvious pro-Brussels stance and unwilling to continue funding the likes of Carrie Gracie Mr AsISeeIt at last cancelled his TV Tax and now hopes in the final act the beast might wither on the Jeremy Vine plagued as it is with the likes of Samira Ahmed.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Snap.

      Wonder if Samira will be selecting any pointing out this all comes from a BBC that flew staff to Oz to say “look, smoke” in English, and to Vancouver to say “ look, Saint” in gush?

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  29. digg says:

    I see Chattenboro has now joined the latest Climate squealers pack on the BBC I see. The coordination between the Climate Pack and the MSM is highly suspicious….. We had it constantly rammed down our throats yesterday and I expect it to go on until Brexit day is past.

    The BBC attitude “You will NOT celebrate leaving the EU while the World is falling apart you morons”

    So I expect this garbage to go on well into Feb.

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    • Guest Who says:

      BBC Armageddon may be playing down this one:

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      • Sluff says:

        After Fukushima they closed down their nuclear power stations and upped production from the coal power stations.
        Has anyone mentioned this to St Greta?

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      • G says:

        GW,
        Germany?
        They’d rather keep the money to spend on carrying out the UN Migration Compact.

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  30. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-51053580

    2020-01-16 02:15
    ‘I was sexually abused by a shaman at an ayahuasca retreat’
    By Simon Maybin and Josephine Casserly
    BBC News, Peru
    5 Hours Ago

    Experiences of sexual abuse seem to be widespread in this world.

    [
    BBC News Stories, AKA The Muslim Broadcasting Corporation in top gear.
    These BBC “stories” are becoming ever more common, ever more blatant, fool nobody except the overpaid half wits who create them.

    But only the Marxist extreme hard left feel there is a requirement to
    a) Kill 100 million+ people.
    b) Deny that a) is true.
    c) Become perplexed when British people do not vote Communist.
    d) Because of c) import millions of organisms who hate British people.
    e) Bribe the imports with housing and benefits so they will vote Marxist.
    f) Not be concerned when the millions of racist paedophile imports gang rape millions of white British female children.
    g) Encourage the imports to vote multiple time for the Communists.
    h) Pretend that no vote rigging or industrial scale rapes occurred, and deny that they happened.
    i) Attempt to imprison every British person who objects to the vote rigging or the mass rapes.
    j) Conspire with the EU traitors to destroy all European states.
    k) Blame Europeans for anything and everything which they categorize as “bad”.
    l) Promote the belief that all advances in industry and technology solely due to Europeans were performed earlier and elsewhere.
    m) Do all of the above whilst feeling superior.
    ]

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  31. Guest Who says:

    Sad, but ‘may’?

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  32. theisland says:

    Votes.

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    • G says:

      theisland,
      Really needs no more that one, ‘Key Pledges’. Viz.

      ‘Allow the Muslim Council to take control of the UK in every respect and work to convert all its citizens to the muslim faith and by default kill all infidels who refuse to convert’

      There, that’ll save many unnecessary words.

      Support Starmer and we will be well on the way.

         37 likes

    • vlad says:

      Designed to get the muslim vote.

      Hopefully it’ll lose him some non-muslim votes.

         15 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Some wag responds
      ‘Give 10:pledges TO Muslims
      .. I want 10 pledges FROM Muslims’
      here

         1 likes

  33. andyjsnape says:

    Anyone proud to be British as a kid? I certainly was, and it stood for something then

    Not sure what it standards for anymore

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  34. digg says:

    Here’s a very long article that explains exactly what is behind the current media Climate frenzy. It is a very long read but does much to explain what is going on in the background and what the end-game is…

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1940161215612204

    Basically a battle handbook written by some oddly funded NGO’s aimed at “Climate Scientists” looking to spread their dodgy mind-control and soothsaying to the media. Pretty much explains what we are being bombarded with right now!

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Digg : 8am Radio Humberside news
      item #3 Attenborough saying nonsense
      #4 GreenDream PR person
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51123638

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/51126212
      Open comments if your BBC account age is set to child age

      \\ Sir D Attenborough is warning us we are at a moment of crisis when it comes to Climate Change, but there is still time to do something about it, but we have put off tackling it for too long.
      “As I speak, south east Australia is on fire.
      Why? …pause ..Because the temperatures of the Earth are increasing,”
      To say this is nothing do with Climate is palpably nonsense” //

      Baroness Brown of Cambridge is the deputy chair of Committee On Climate Change *
      She says focusing on tackling the issues can create opportunities like in the Humber region
      “more birds for our children** to see and learn to recognise
      making sure the wildflowers are still there for them, that is about hope
      but actually so is the *new jobs* that will created, by the offshore wind industry that are being created you know in coastal areas like Hull & Grimsby where they desperately need the economic uplift that some of these zero carbon industries are going to bring for us.”
      //

      ..”zero Carbon industry”… It isn’t zero CO2 is it ?
      The construction and maintenance create a mountain of CO2.

      * Julia King, Baroness Brown of Cambridge, engineer and was the Vice-Chancellor of Aston University

      ** FFS this piece is loaded with PR trickery
      look how long it is
      “our children” is appeal to emotion

         16 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        I switched to Radio Lincs they had the PR guy from the new Danish interconnector on telling us how he’s going around local schools explaining how his project would be bringing in Green leccy from Denmark

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  35. StewGreen says:

    non-binary : discussion is coming soon on LBC
    A mother is going to declare her son non-binary before he starts primary school
    as a ruse, cos he has unique long hair and she doesn’t want it cut.

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  36. StewGreen says:

    Talk Radio now on grooming raping gangs
    JHB asks if senior police heads need to roll

    and why is it call “Asian” instead of “Pakistani Muslim”

    Her guest Labour Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham just claimed that investigations were not abandoned cos of Political Correctness
    “It was lack of resources, some prosecutions were done, but later investigations were abandoned due to lack of resources”

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Lack of resources? Would that be a shortage of Urdu-speaking officers to question the suspects? Or a lack of resources due to them being allocated to monitoring Twitter accounts, recording Thought Crime, co-ordinating LGBTP policy with the likes of Stonewall and Mermaids, or generally pestering innocent motorists?

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      • JamesArthur says:

        Maggie Oliver,the woman who flagged up the Muslim grooming gangs 15 years ago on R4 Wimmins Hour
        In a long discussion no use of the words Pakistani or Muslim or even Asian… Not one…just ‘men’ I have feeling that the recorded interview was ‘ re-engineered’ BBC style

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      • john in cheshire says:

        It’s more likely for investigations to have been abandoned because there are too many urdu speaking police officers, not too few.

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  37. Guest Who says:

    Nick in New York seems more upset about architecture, but Jon and gang must be all over this, surely?

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  38. StewGreen says:

    Talk Radio ..coming up BBC jobs moving out of London

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  39. Dover Sentry says:

    The Sun:

    “”Big Ben must chime for Brexit — the miserabilists and pessimists cannot get their way””

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10749220/big-ben-must-chime-for-brexit-the-miserabilists-and-pessimists-cannot-get-their-way/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebarweb

    Like or loathe The Sun, it has a powerful voice and represents millions of readers. But the BBC prefer the Guardian with it’s readership of about 38 and all 38 in the BBC canteen.

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    • Beltane says:

      To suggest that the Guardian has a readership of 38 is a vile and totally unsubstantiated calumny. At the last count it was at least 40.

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      • Guest Who says:

        The Graun only has an Outrageship.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Beltane… the figure of 38 readers is correct. However, one of them actually buys three copies: one for the upstairs toilet, one for the downstairs toilet, and one for the outside toilet used by the live-in maid imported from overseas.
        http://www.tipsnips.com//cache/627/284_213_s.jpg

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        • Beltane says:

          Only partially true Ian. In another cost cutting exercise the ink drying process has been reduced to a maximum of 3 seconds per page/copy. As a result the prime function you correctly define above has been badly affected and out-dated unsold copies, less inclined to leave ink traces behind, are now preferred.
          Looking on the positive side, such copies are plentiful – although only available on collection, distribution costs also having had a detrimental effect on overall sales.
          Interested readers might like to know that they can help to ease the pressures on the Guardian by taking out an on-line subscription. For details go to: [email protected]

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          • Ian Rushlow says:

            Another advantage of using the Guardian is that you don’t have to provide your own sh*t…

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      • The General says:

        It is 40 but only because the BBC ordered two more copies.

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  40. Guest Who says:

    One notes SiTOxic is leaving GBBO on ‘other projects.

    Scented candles and soaps?

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  41. Cane Corso says:

    Do I get “no-platformed” if I compliment the Beeb? On their website today is a nice little article (buried under Politics) by none other than Roger Harrabin about the new Agriculture Bill.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-51128709
    Remarkably supportive, but with a miserabilist ending. Roger has not entirely deviated from the Party line.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Cane -yes

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    • john in cheshire says:

      As Jesus said of the Pharisees, and which applies to those today who are of a similar mind:
      They are of their father the devil who was a liar from the beginning.

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  42. StewGreen says:

    Radio 4 The 11am item about gropey tribal gurus has just finished
    next 11:30am item Climate Doom prog part 3
    The End of the World Has Already Happened
    3: Cue The Sinister Music
    3/3 Where can we find hope as we come to terms with the climate crisis?>/i>
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000d8s5

    In this final episode, he finds sources of hope for the future.

    There are no solutions to the climate crisis in this programme. But by opening up different ways of relating to other humans, and non-humans, might we then find it easier to act?
    Tim spends time in a cat cafe and a nightclub, and listens to a children’s story, the worldview of the Lakota people and a hacked nature documentary, as well as the voices of young people engaged in climate protests.
    The aim? To liberate humans from the ‘patriarchal, hierarchical, heteronormative possibility space’, and to relearn our connectedness to everything on the planet.

    ie an admission that his crusade is not really about Global Warming

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    • StewGreen says:

      Have you got that ?
      The 11:30am prog says
      ‘western people are bad
      .. and need someone to help them reconnect with nature’

      The 11am prog says that when western women tried to connect with nature by going to hallucinogen workshops run by the Peruvian Amazon gurus, some ended up groped/raped.

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    • StewGreen says:

      JaneKelly has a thread about last weeks prog
      Here

      and here

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  43. digg says:

    My Climate Change idea for the BBC (and all the other broadcasters).

    Lets have a return to the frugal 1950 -60’s

    All TV programmes to start at 6pm each day and finish with the National Anthem at say 11.pm with only one news program at say 6pm.

    Just think about the power saved with all those TV’s not running, people going to bed early etc and the BBC workforce could be cut by 85% saving miles on taxi and plane trips etc.

    They could also dispense with all those old has-been celebrities who jabber on on all day about such things as buying houses at auction – emigrating to New Zealand – travel scams – etc. such as Rip off Britain which seems to be just a BBC pension for 3 old ex-BBC girls!

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    • Nibor says:

      Yes lets have austerity and cut to 1950s standard of living , with the proviso that the Powers That Be give us the low crime rates of that period and strong borders .

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    • Old Goat says:

      I often wonder what the energy bill for Masterchef must be.

      I don’t worry about CO2, though, because I am intelligent and knowledgeable enough to know that it isn’t a criterion worth worrying about – other than we could do with a lot more of it.

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    • Beltane says:

      Quite right, let’s return to the good old days of the potter’s wheel. With all that light brown clay slopping about even the ethnicity problem might not apply.

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  44. StewGreen says:

    M&S decided it needed to abandon its traditional market
    .. in favour of youth
    BBC copy that idea

    … How did it work out for M&S ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Edit is on the blink is it ?
      @TinyCO2 comments
      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/15/bbc-will-shift-spending-shows-reflect-lives-passions-young-people/

      BBC is (yet again) making the M&S mistake of kicking its existing audience in the teeth and chasing the youth market, because it fears that they won’t pay the license fee.
      I’ve got news for them, no matter how much the BBC spends on pre generation X, they still won’t pay the TV license and not only that, the rest of us are moving in the same direction.

      Apparently ‘Sources insisted that existing shows enjoyed by an older demographic, such as Call the Midwife, Death in Paradise, Last Tango in Paradise and Antiques Roadshow, will continue.
      But older viewers are unlikely to see new programmes commissioned with them in mind.
      An insider said that they will be served by shows with broad appeal across the generations such as His Dark Materials and Killing Eve.’
      … wasn’t the original BBC remit to produce progs with broad appeal?
      I invariably find that programmes for specific generations are patronising and formulaic.
      As if the BBC knows what anyone wants to watch. They’re in their own bubble.

      I’ve started collecting my favourite old series because eventually they won’t be available without paying. I am surprised at how small the collection is.

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      • Not Gwent says:

        “the BBC knows what anyone wants to watch.”

        State Broadcaster knows what it wants anyone to watch.

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    • tarien says:

      And what has happended to M & S as a result of following that ‘youth route’ ? Has it pulled more youth through the doors ? No it has not, rather it has and is alienating its main customer base ( 45-80). My wife used to buy much from M & S, now its only the undwear that attracts-still good quality-dresses and skirts she says are often badly finished and too expensive comparatively. And as you point out StewGreen, the BBC has mis-culculated its audiance-utter rubbish sweeps across the screen, and again like many we record most of what we like which isn’t much. Back to reading books and sewing socks for the funny folks walking across the Poles!

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        I went into my local M&S a few months back to buy some clothing. All of the posters in the menswear section featured black models – all of them, not one exception. Having recovered from the momentary perception of thinking I had somehow been transported to a branch in Nigeria or Jamaica, I quickly realised that they were simply informing me that they did not want my custom. I have not been back since, nor have several people I have told this to. For the record, the last census in the area stated that 4.6% of the population were of a black background. By that statistic, around 1 in 20 of their photographed models could fairly be expected to be black.

        #GoWokeGetBroke

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        • Foscari says:

          Ian-The advertising agencies must have a commercial
          reason for this kind of advertising. I would love to
          know the reasons. I use Barclays internet banking like
          I am sure many of others on this website do.
          Until recently Barclays were advertising on their home page
          a blonde pregnant Caucasian lady , with her black partner
          or husband or just a friend with his arms around her pregnant
          tummy. I know what most of you are saying ,”so what, nearly
          every advert has couples of mixed races.” But no , the Barclays
          picture has just changed to just a black couple. Maybe the days
          of Caucasian models are over? I reiterate there must be
          somebody out there who can explain it to me?

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  45. StewGreen says:

    At 13:45pm OU/@BBCRadio4
    Another prog seems to tell us that WHITE people are bad
    … & their liberation comes from listening to BROWN people

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  46. StewGreen says:

    Radio4 just tweeted about FakeNews

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  47. StewGreen says:

    R4 is not pushing any agendas
    They just happened to tweet this

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    • JimS says:

      Oh no! How are all those ‘celebrities’ going to sell their BBC-promoted clothing lines?

      Discontented Duchess Designs

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    • Kaiser says:

      fine by me, when was the last time you bought an item of clothing made in the UK, lets do the countries balance of payments a favour

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    • Woolwich says:

      “Lots of people are pledging this year to buy no new clothes, buy second hand or mend”. No. No they’re not. Without doing any research whatsoever I can categorically state that this isn’t true. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. The story is made up virtue signalling. And of the infinitesimally small number of people who actually do “pledge”, very few will keep that promise.
      And aside from that, “Lots”? How many is lots? And is it just me or does that whole headline sound like it was written by someone with a 10 year old’s grasp of grammar and composition?

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  48. StewGreen says:

    Anyone near Belfast ??

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  49. digg says:

    BBC again

    Meghan’s Mail on Sunday case: Why Royal Family rarely go to court

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51127889

    Let me see…. maybe it’s because most of them are not self-centred and publicity seeking drama queens!

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    • john in cheshire says:

      Apparently Mr and Mrs Sparkles have been touting their talents to the Helliwood elite. ( As an aside, Dr Steve Turley reports that only 4% of the US public have any liking or respect for the Helliwood swamp rats).

      A couple of old films come to mind that they could suggest for a remake with Sparkles in the lead role of both of them:

      Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? and

      The Killing of Sister George

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  50. vlad says:

    Allister Heath of the DT reviews the book entitled The New Class War: Saving Democracy from the Metropolitan Elite. It has obvious relevance to the BBC.

    “A new establishment of ‘meddlesome overlords’ has seized control of most of our major institutions.”

    Britain is in the middle of a new class war and Boris Johnson’s historic mission is to fix it. The conflict isn’t a struggle between haves and have-nots, capital owners and workers or even between the “two nations” identified by Disraeli in Sybil in 1845. It’s only indirectly a battle between Brexiteers and Remainers, and only partly a fight between supporters of free markets and believers in government intervention.

    Instead, as Michael Lind, the US academic, argues in The New Class War: Saving Democracy from the Metropolitan Elite, the real clash is between a highly credentialed, entitled, managerial and technocratic class that has seized control of the most powerful public and private institutions and is using them to serve its economic interests and impose its faddish worldview; and an alienated, ignored and denigrated “working class” that has lost control.

    In the British context, for working class read not just blue-collar workers but also swathes of the middle classes and anybody else who hasn’t got with the Left, social-liberal programme, including many ethnic minorities…

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/01/15/boris-johnsons-task-rescue-britain-absurd-technocratic-tyrants/

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    • Swelter says:

      Vlad .. That is a cut out and keep article by Allister Heath . I urge everyone to read it.

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