Start the Week Thread 13 January 2020

18 days until the UK leaves the EU. Last week the legislation finalising our leaving passed through the Commons with barely a mention by the Biased pro EU BBC; and at the moment it is busy with royal issues . Perhaps it is at a stage of organisational grief combined with a feeling of hopelessness that the General Election didn’t go the way the BBC wanted .

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343 Responses to Start the Week Thread 13 January 2020

  1. Fedup2 says:

    Not directly BBC – but very close …..

    Are you suffering from low blood pressure today ?

    Well never fear – go to the mail online and read about how much Bercow claimed in his last months as traitor speaker – that really should cost him any residual chance of a peerage


  2. vlad says:

    What the beeb ain’t telling you:

    Saudi Servicemen Expelled from U.S. for Extremist Links and Child Pornography


    • vlad says:

      Underage sex and religious extremism – well there’s a surprise!


    • john in cheshire says:

      Didn’t one of them enter a military building, kill three unarmed personnel and wound another before he was finally driven from this earth?

      US Attorney General, Bill Barr gave a press conference where he announced that the ” Kingdom of Saudi Arabia” is giving full cooperation to the Americans to investigate the muslim killing spree. Some of the Saudis apparently filmed the attack and others have been found to possess muslim terrorist literature.

      If this fake kingdom are our allies, then God help us.


  3. Thoughtful says:

    Seems that the Labour party have learned nothing from the election of Jeremy Corbyn and some of them have gone and done exactly the same thing they did last time.

    Emily Thornbury has just scraped into the cut, but she did so because other members gave their votes to her in order to ‘widen the debate’ which is exactly the same reason they gave and exactly the same method that Jeremy Corbyn was elected.

    The BBC PM crew on radio 4 appear very excited by the prospect of the Labour leadership election and the televised debate and they allowed some Labourite to yammer on uninterupted for quite some time.

    Nothing has changed though it’s all the same, and if the autocratic Starmer does win it as expected then he will tell everyone what he thinks they want to hear while planning to do exactly what he wants.


  4. StewGreen says:

    Sheffield : Friday shooting
    then Sunday kid shot in a driveby FFS !
    “Police reveal another shooting incident on Friday following a tip-off
    Locals know this area as Meersbrook, Sheffield. This occurred prior to Sundays shooting incident in Arbourthorne where a 12 year old boy was shot in the leg”


  5. StewGreen says:

    Shouting racist to close discussion down.


    • Thoughtful says:

      So it had nothing to do with their race then, unless he is meaning the revolting Roma who are probably the main culprits but we knew that anyway.

      The cowardly useless incompetent Tories should be screaming from the rooftops about the Fascist Lefts race hate of white people and their love of crime & criminals, particularly when the crime is comitted against the hated white people.

      But they have no spine and are utterly clueless so we are lost to what ever the left tell the Tories what to do.


  6. StewGreen says:

    The Time : Radio4 to have season about the connection between feminism and LGBT
    including 3 dramas


    • StewGreen says:

      The standard of Labour leadership
      @BarryGardiner tweeted
      Despite *my plane back from the Climate Conference*
      being 4 hours late — I have just managed to cast my nomination for @RLong_Bailey & @DawnButlerBrent 😅
      I will be voting for @AngelaRayner for Deputy but she kindly agreed I should help get our friend over the magic number of 22!


  7. Foscari says:

    The BBC just don’t get it when it comes to the Academy Awards.
    The Academy just don’t use the same criteria as the BBC’S
    employment policies of excellence taking second place
    behind diversity quotas.
    The Academy are not going to promote a film just because it
    was directed by somebody from the LGBT community , or a
    women, over a better film directed by a middle aged white male..
    Little Women was a very good film directed by a women and
    if it wins one or two awards , good for it.
    BUT BBC if you oppose 1917 because you don’t think there
    were not enough black actors or for that matter women in the
    film, you will just have to go back to your kind of “equality”
    of having over 75% of news and political presenters female.


    • chancygardner says:

      I’ve just come back from watching the film and an excellent one it was at that. Possibly ranks in the top three first world war films ever made and sits comfortably alongside the likes of ‘All Quiet on the Western Front’ and ‘Paths of Glory’.

      I particularly like long uncut camera sequences (you may recall similar in ‘Children of Men’) and the director used them to great effect.

      Benedict Cumbersnatch was in it, thankfully not in abundance, and came out with the only corny line in the film. I couldn’t work out whether he was the only wooden actor or whether I simply hate him. It didn’t matter anyway because the film was superb.

      Many Oscars will be awarded for sure.


      • taffman says:

        Any wimmin, BAME or LGBT, XYZ ?
        Doubt it .
        Oscars are just a mutual appreciation society award by media luvvies who are living in their own bubble .
        I hope that Ricky Gervais is there to state a few home truths .


        • Scroblene says:

          They didn’t have them in 1917, Taff, people had more important issues to consider back then!

          Seeing the Harrymegs stuff unfold reminds me of the opening scenes of ‘Oh what a lovely war’ though, all those Royals getting pissed off with each other and causing untold damage to everybody but themselves.

          As it’s you, I will easily admit to having a lump in my throat every time I visited the Regimental museum in Brecon…


          • Mrs Kitty says:

            Totally OT I recommend visiting the National Memorial Arboretum, you can spend all day as it’s home to over 300 memorials. Not all are military but the whole atmosphere is moving and uplifting.


  8. Jack in the Green says:

    I think the BBC and it’s sister organisations like the House of Lords, OFCOM and the rest, come over rather as neo-liberal, bien pensant, villa owning sneerers rather than old-fashioned lefties, many of whom voted to leave the Franco-German empire. Perhaps “old fashioned” is the key, ie sticking to one’s guns and having a reasonable sense of irony and a sense of humour.
    Meanwhile the White City site along with Salford and the new BBC centre continue to grow and grow. Not bad for an organisation with no money.
    Which brings me back to my first point. These neo-libs with their Villas in Tuscany and Provence, great charridee work and impeccable moral standards will always be the first to do a runner when it’s their round.
    I have to say it is the one section of the community I have never been able to hold in anything but utter contempt.
    I feel very much better now.


  9. Guest Who says:

    ‘Birmingham cars’

    “When oi get me moped owt on de road, I’m gonna drive, drive, drive…”


  10. TrickCyclist says:

    Wimmin on BBC News at Six:
    Reeta Chakrabarty gives an overview of crises suffered by the Royal Family, including; “The sudden and violent death of Princess Diana.” Car crashes are violence now?
    Metro newspaper film critic Larushka Ivan-Zadeh and the unbearable Will Gompertz deplore the lack of diversity in the Oscar nominations. Larushka is especially disappointed that Greta Gerwig hasn’t been nominated for Best Director for Little Women, but at least the movie is up for Best Picture. Er, pretty sure it would be producer Amy Pascal receiving that award, if it wins.
    News read tonight by Fiona Bruce – now, I know this site is about the BBC’s Biases, but on a frivolous note is there an internal BBC bias? Mishal Husain is an attractive woman when sitting behind the desk, but standing up in the BBC’s virtual newsroom she looks a dumpy lady with a big bottom. Fiona Bruce, on the other hand, looks like Roger Moore in the poster for Octopussy. Are her legs really that long or is she slipping the technicians a few Fivers?



    • JimS says:

      Whenever I see these news studios on TV I always wonder how many migrants could be housed in them.

      They all look larger than my house yet have only one newsreader in them. Bring back ‘the broom cupboard’ and Gordon the Gopher, he would probably do the job for peanuts!


      • TrickCyclist says:

        Remember when they used to sit in front of a flat backdrop with a screen shape on it that they used to chroma-key the news stories onto? Why is a restrained presentation like that considered unsuitable today?
        You’re right about one person in the studio – even the (multiple) cameras appear to be robots these days.


  11. Thoughtful says:

    There are rumours surfacing that the ultra woke sparkles and her two short planks are planning to move to LA, but she won’t make that move while Donald Trump is in the White House.

    So here’s hoping he gets re-elected and the nutters have to stay in ultra woke Canada for at least another 4 years – effectively in exile.


    • Halifax says:

      I’m not a racist but I’m a Meganist…….I don’t like her one bit.


      • vlad says:


        Careful, I think it’s a hate crime.


        • Up2snuff says:

          I think the ‘Sussexes’ should be given plenty of peace and quiet in Canada and left alone by everyone, if that’s what they want.


          • BRISSLES says:

            The Meg …….. short for Megalodon, starring our Jason. Wonder who it was named after.


          • john in cheshire says:

            I think they will eventually morph into Wayne and Waynetta Slob. The Sparkles even have a child, which they can rename SpudULike.

            I remember the sketch where they won the lottery and employed a butler etc. Very amusing.


  12. Charlie Farley says:

    While turning off R4 earlier heard a promo for this Sunday 15.00 “Lagos to London” “A radical update of Charles Dickens Olivier Twist”…….here we go again , what makes the BBC think this is what they’re listening public want….its no wonder that the likes of us just turn off …wasting our money yet again . Missed opportunity for Meghan Sparkle to be part of this ….they are going to need the cash after all !


    • Richard Pinder says:

      At Xmas, as we were watching a BBC Drama set in Victorian London, we noticed that the middle-class lefties at the BBC had replaced half the working class characters with Black actors. The remaining white working class characters were married to Afro-Caribbean characters. Apparently according to the BBC, the Victorian era is now mostly devoid of religious and class divisions with racism a complete non-issue. So therefore according to BBC propaganda, there was racial harmony until the Race Relations Board was formed in the 1960‘s, provoking an explosion in the size of the Race relations industry and its need to provoke Racism as a reason to exist.


  13. Dover Sentry says:

    Daily Express:

    “BBC audience erupts as Stanley Johnson (Boris Johnson’s father) claims Long-Bailey would ‘superbly’ kill Labour”

    “BBC audience members were left in stitches when Stanley Johnson hilariously mocked Labour leadership candidate Rebecca Long-Bailey as he claimed she would do a superb job at ensuring the party remains “unelectable”.”

    “Speaking on BBC Radio 4’s Any Questions?, Boris Johnson’s father amused the audience with his witty and unexpected joke about the Labour Party leadership. Asked who he believes should replace Jeremy Corbyn, Stanley Johnson joked: “I’m going to be a little bit cynical here. As far as I’m concerned, as a former Tory politician MEP and some would say with some links with the Conservative Party now, I think that the best possible thing would be for Labour to continue down the suicide route which it embarked upon.” ”

    It appears to be ‘open season’ on Labour. Shooting Permit not required.


    • john in cheshire says:

      Apparently, the Keir (Hardy) Starmer character has a brilliant legal mind and he loves the detail, forensically examining every major issue.

      Talk about hiding your light under a bushel. It’s either a very dim light or a very dense bushel.


  14. Newkid says:

    Caught a segment on radio 1 “newzbeat” earlier about love island (i know but stay with me) lol….. apparently the new series is being filmed in south africa and it would seem “da newzbeat krew” thought this would be perfect for a bit of black vs white agenda pushing. It went on to talk about the apartheid and how priviliged white south africans are vs black south africans and blah blah blah you know how the story goes. To link an article on love island to apartheid is a pretty tedious link by any stretch of the imagination but shows perfectly that there are no depths the worlds most trusted is unwilling to stoop to in order to push its metro, bubble world, islington-centric drivle down everyones throat.


  15. JimS says:

    HM Agrees Transition to new role for H & M

    Historian Robert Lacey told the BBC Radio 4’s PM programme the Queen’s statement following the meeting was unusually personal, with several references to “my family” and “my grandson”.

    “It is remarkably hands-on. I mean it may have been processed through officials but this is the Queen, speaking to her people and speaking about her family, and I think coming right through it is the concern she feels,” he said.

    Instead of using the formal titles of the couple – the Duke and Duchess of Sussex – the Queen simply called them “Harry and Meghan”.

    Maybe HM is about to show them the door and take back their titles?


  16. MarkyMark says:

    We (BBC) regret that we are not able to offer a response at present, as your complaint does not currently meet the requirements of our framework. It may help you to read the BBC Complaints Framework on our website , which explains on pages 11-13 the terms of our service.


    BBC is causing mental anguish 

    Dear Winston Smith at the BBC Complaints Department twinned with the Ministry of Truth as authored by your previous employee Eric Blair,

    If the BBC is causing mental anguish by producing News that contradicts reality then should it extinguish itself or at least give people the choice of paying the BBC rather than forcing them to pay a BBC TV TAX under Government protection and threat of prosecution (est. 180,000 in 2017)?

    Maybe you can do a BBC programme on it?

    Mr. H

    CAS-4987700-SY1FTF : BBC NewsWatch says boredom with pro-Brexit march.

    CAS-4963895-3HKGDN: Tommy Robinson: Are you reporting on him?.

    CAS-4844672-N8FDYY: Update on the MP Expenses 2009 scandal in 2018.

    CAS-4939547-J71Z1V: Here’s hoping Ireland do the right thing G.Lineker.

    CAS-4937378-YKMWBJ: BBC not reporting ‘Day of Freedom’ March 06may2018.

    CAS-4906141-BFJQL0: I take offence that presenters promote their books.

    CAS-4892811-C820SC: I am offended that I have to pay the BBC TV Tax.

    CAS-4824332-633N1P: What happened in Italy was not covered …

    CAS-4933135-ZV3V7F: The omission is the most powerful form of lie … 


    Thank you again for contacting us,

    BBC Complaints Team


  17. theleftwilleatitself says:

    Regarding the attacks of racism towards the British press and people by the likes of Afua Hirsch and many other BAME talking heads who’ve turned up on programmes over the last few days, towards Meghan:
    “As every good Marxist knows, if you accuse your enemies of committing your own sins, you assume a position that often proves virtually impossible to subsequently challenge.” Anon

    Accuse the other side of which you are guilty! This lot are known race-baiters and they’re getting the boot in first 👍


  18. StewGreen says:

    Greta’s account tweeted

    And please remember, many of us who have signed this are children,
    many of us live under constant threat just for communicating the situation we are in.
    So do not make up your own quotes or twist our words.
    Quote what we actually say instead.
    Did she write that ?
    Do 17 year olds call themselves “we children” ?
    .. ‘many child climate protesters ” live under constant threat”
    .. Really how many have been harmed or beaten up etc. ?


    • StewGreen says:

      Greta’s account tweeted

      And please remember, many of us who have signed this are children,
      many of us live under constant threat just for communicating the situation we are in.
      So do not make up your own quotes or twist our words.
      Quote what we actually say instead.

      Did she write that ?
      Do 17 year olds call themselves “we children” ?
      .. ‘many child climate protesters ” live under constant threat”
      .. Really how many have been harmed or beaten up etc. ?


  19. StewGreen says:

    The standard of Labour leadership
    @BarryGardiner tweeted
    Despite *my plane back from the Climate Conference*
    being 4 hours late — I have just managed to cast my nomination for @RLong_Bailey & @DawnButlerBrent 😅
    I will be voting for @AngelaRayner for Deputy but she kindly agreed I should help get our friend over the magic number of 22!


    • taffman says:

      The Labour Party are not in the real world.
      They did not listen before and they were ‘hammered’.
      They are not listening now – they deserve all they get.


      • john in cheshire says:

        Don McLean – Vincent
        ” They did not listen, they did not know how. Perhaps they’ll listen now”.

        Fat chance. Commies are just like the Bourbons – they forget nothing and learn nothing.

        But I’ll bet you are now mentally hearing the song.


  20. StewGreen says:

    Who butchers sheep in British fields in the middle of the night ?
    Three Romanian nationals who face charges of theft after killing 350 sheep in Northamptonshire for meat will go on trial

    The trio appeared in court allegedly killing and butchering around 350 sheep in Northamptonshire over four months in 2019


    • StewGreen says:

      They first appeared in court in October
      I didn’t owt on Countryfile, who are too busy making items with conspiracy theories about “right wing” in the countryside.


      • Charlie Farley says:

        It’s a story that would have been reported on Countryfile in the past but not now as it will upset our new “friends” that have probably arrived illegally …….do the same to them as they did to the sheep …….or put into a wire cage and dragged back over the Channel….if alive when pulled out they can come back …..hope you don’t think that’s too harsh !


  21. StewGreen says:

    Next week the R4 9:45am slot


  22. Richard Pinder says:

    This week, I provide three examples of the differences between the middle-class left-wing morons who dominate the BBC, a letter in the Mensa Magazine and an email from a scientist.

    (1) BBC Radio 4, Word of Mouth. Children’s writer and university drop out, Michael Rosen, talks to the environmentalist writer George Marshall, author of “Don’t Even Think About It: Why Our Brains Are Wired to Ignore Climate Change”. These two scientifically ignorant idiots explain the psychological obstacles to the best ways of communicating the science of man made climate chaos. Richard Pinder does think about it and provides information below of why the evidence provides the biggest psychological obstacle to believing in this idiotic dogma.

    (2) A letter in the Mensa Magazine explains how James Clerk Maxwell, Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller have provided an immovable psychological obstacle to belief in the man made Greenhouse Effect. It says “We do know that the Greenhouse Effect exists because all Planetary Atmospheres have a surface temperature higher than the grey body temperature. The problem is that the Arrhenius hypothesis, as explained by NASA, does not work on planets with carbon dioxide atmospheres, proving that it is a Dogma. On the other hand a formula for the Greenhouse Effect based on Atmospheric mass, gravity and air pressure first suggested by James Clerk Maxwell in 1888, was proved correct in 2011 for all known Planetary Atmospheres by Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller, Gravity pulling molecules downward producing the heat gradient. Other scientists have found the same results using NASA data with air pressure and the Ideal Gas Law”

    (3) An email from a scientist: A BBC type moron would think that intelligence is about producing a highly complex scientific paper that hardly anyone can understand. But actually, intelligence is about simple explanations and getting the basic facts correct at the start of an investigation. An example of this explains how a question by a Japanese schoolboy can cause the destruction of the reputation of James Cook University in Australia, as regards Ocean acidification. The question asked whether the scientists had started by first analysing the isotopic marker for man made carbon dioxide in the Oceanic carbon dioxide emissions. Anyone on this website could obtain the information below from the Weatheraction website of Piers Corbyn. It goes like this: Man-made and Volcanic CO2 does not have the Carbon-14 Isotope. Levels of this Isotope show that 4 percent or 16ppm of the increase in CO2 in about 200 years is due to Man-made or Volcanic CO2, this is also confirmed by the ratio of Carbon-12 to Carbon-13 in the Atmosphere. Therefore only 16 percent of the increase in CO2 was man-made. This is not a surprise if you realise that ice core data shows that CO2 levels rise about 800 years after a warming and that the Medieval Warm period peaked about 800 years ago. The reason for this is that there is a 800 year thermal lag in the deep oceans and that the Oceans dominate the system with a mass 275 times that of the Atmosphere, so the ratio of CO2 in the Atmosphere/Oceans is dependent upon the heat in the Oceans. This means that 84 percent of the increase in carbon dioxide is natural, and caused by the Medieval warm period, not by man made emissions.


  23. LastChanceSaloon says:

    “Labour’s leadership contest will be a chance to seal electoral reform in Britain
    Polly Toynbee”

    Translation – The Labour Party does not, currently, have a hope in hell of winning a general election so the two major
    Communist propaganda disseminators (the other being the IslamoFemaleWhiteHating Broadcasting Corporation) are on red alert for any suggestions, however preposterous, which might improve the situation.

    So desparate that the aged and dim (did I mention she failed her 11+? Sometimes I forget.) Toynbee has been given the job. The years have not lain softly on Polly whose articles still carry the portrait taken by Fox-Talbot in 1867.

    The Toynbee solution is a coalition with the Swinson gang, followed by, in the event of victory, electoral prestidigitation with the crazed Lucas mob.

    Polly, I feel this is not a solution. It is time for thinking out of the box.

    Time for a new system “quintic-Allah-inspired-super-non-elapsed-time-non-constituency-limited-voting”. Muslims get five votes each. Four of these votes may be cast in any constituency, after all the other votes have been counted.

    Comments please Polly.


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      From one of the BTL comments on the Polly article

      “The list of candidates for the [Labour] Leadership will not do this as most of them wouldn’t recognise a working person if one jumped out of their cornflakes in the morning.”


    • Fedup2 says:

      Electoral reform will give the 11 illiberals something to keep themselves occupied for the next 5 years .

      They’ll even keep spouting ‘ change is coming ‘


    • Banania says:

      The Lucas mob in Parliament consists of Lucas.


  24. Fedup2 says:

    Not good getting upset first thing in the morning . But I’m afraid Kevin Watkins did it . Kevin Watkins is the head of ‘save the children PLC’. He sat is a studio being give a soft interview by Tourette’s Robinson who for some reason didn’t interrupt him or challenge the obscenity of the rubbish he came out with .

    There was just so much . This man was defending the giving away 14 billions pounds of our money to overseas projects when it is needed here in the UK – or not borrowed at all . Because it is borrowed money – interest paid by taxpayers . Insane

    My favourite was that the overseas giveaway of our tax money

    ‘Enhances the reputation of UK across Africa”.

    I hate swearing so early in the day but my radio got the whole lot . Every bad word you care to imagine and those banned on this site .

    Obviously the BBC is pro DFID as it has a similar cavalier attitude to taxpayers money that the BBC has so when Liam Fox is interviewed later in the programme we will smell the hostility .
    By the way – why is a Tory minister going on the Toady programme – unless to get the full Tourette’s treatment . ?


    • Mrs Kitty says:

      Re the Tory minister going on Toady perhaps the govt are using the Beebs weapon against them. When the Beeb are accused of bias they point to both left and right accusations of bias saying we must be impartial, when they accuse the government of not sending anyone on their programs Boris et all can say see we sent Fox. Maybe they’ll have a sacrificial lamb of the month.


    • G says:

      Is Liam Fox a Minister at present?
      The only reason I question this is that I remember commenting on his dismissal last year and I don’t think he was re-hired.


      • Fedup2 says:

        No – you right – is turned up as a plain MP. He explained that when Africans want to talk to the UK they by pass the FCO and go straight to DFID ‘ cos that’s where the money is ‘

        Makes me feel sick about 14 billion wasted every damn year as well as importing the third world .

        I think the good doctor Fox is a bit to conservative for the conservative party at the moment .


  25. Fedup2 says:

    Toady 2
    The programme include ‘yesterday in parliament ‘ which went soft on the Illiberal intention to ‘inspect’ the bill for leaving the EU in the House of Lords yesterday .

    Where is the outrage ? Particularly when compared with the rubber stamping job it did on the ‘no deal ‘ provision of letwin Benn and Soubry in the Traitor parliament in 2019 .

    I sincerely hope the Lords misbehave and set it for abolition . Not good news for BBC types looking for a seat in the old folks home .


    • Cane Corso says:

      Thank you Fedup since I cannot listen to the Beeb except R3 these days. Searching for any news on the Beeb website about the second reading of our Independence bill in the Lords I find zero. I may be a bad navigator. But the Beeb’s sins of omission of important news seem worse than their committed bias.


  26. digg says:

    I had to double check it wasn’t April 1st this morning when I read this article on the BBC site.

    Veganuary: The makers behind the vegan-friendly kilt

    It seems these folk want to ditch kilts made from the natural coat of an animal that lives all over Scotland in favour of either synthetic plastic ones or materials brought from the other side of the planet.

    It just keep on getting madder!


    • Mrs Kitty says:

      Perhaps someone could tell the Greater Thunderberg, then stand well back and wait for it



  27. Fedup2 says:

    An apology

    Yesterday I reported here how the Traitor Speaker Bercow claimed £1000 for a return cab from London to Nottingham during the final months of his disgraceful career. He apparently took an ‘aid’ with him .

    I’ve now learnt that is he and ‘aid’ had gone by train in 1st it could have cost a total of £480 return for the 2 of them . So it was an overspend of a mere £520 for ‘security reasons ‘.

    The talk Mr Bercow gave was on ‘how to save taxpayers money “


  28. taffman says:

    Not on Al Beeb yet but the losers and traitors in Londonistan do not want to hear Big Ben on Liberty Day ?


  29. Fedup2 says:

    The cost started at £150 k and has now hit £500k . I bet if there was a crowd fund thing it would get the money . But somehow the cost would keep rising just above the funding ,

    It’s not important . Getting rid of those reichEU flags from all public buildings would be much better . Particularly since the EU president banned national flags in the EU chamber yesterday . There is an exemption for the swastika ( fakes fact ) .
    Also – Nigel Farage has turned down the shedload of money the EU was going to give him ( ours ) for leaving . Wish he’d taken it .


    • taffman says:

      Nowt on Al Beeb yet ? Perhaps the sore losers don’t want to give the story any publicity. If the Brexit Vote had gone the other way you can bet they would be ringing out the news on all their publicly funded, biased channels ?


  30. Guest Who says:

    The word ‘belief’ is used by BBC ECU directors almost as much as ‘could’ is by BBC editors who see the need for implausible deniability but keen to get the narrative out.


    • JimS says:

      Pickering was an astronomer who was sometimes right.. and sometimes wrong.

      “He believed he discovered a tenth Saturnian moon in 1905 from plates taken in 1904, which he called “Themis”. For this discovery he was awarded the Lalande Prize of the French Academy of Sciences in 1905. “Themis” was later shown to not exist.”

      Presumably the ‘consensus’ in 1905 was that “Themis” existed?


  31. Guest Who says:

    And the mullahs are taking their frustration out on their own people.

    Meanwhile Jon Snow and Pesto are whinging about anything but.

    The MSM is digging its professional night soil pit.


  32. Guest Who says:

    Guardian readers.


    • G says:

      Page 3 of the document lists the proscription criteria. Judge yourself whether XR is worthy of being on the proscribed list or has the Government lowered the bar.

      Click to access 20191101_Proscription__SG_.pdf


      • Guest Who says:

        That got to ‘yes’ quite quickly.

        I am considering a pointless complaint to the press ombudsman about our local paper deliberately fomenting community divisions.

        A young imported ‘Local Democracy’ (BBC funded) reporter got carried away supporting XR protests, and when some responded to caution against divisive rhetoric took to editorial to claim she was not going to let [our] future be threatened by old people.

        This resulted in some worrying threats to any not supportive of an extreme activist dogma.

        Same happens on bbc public threads.


    • Guest Who says:



  33. JamesArthur says:

    Green agenda
    and all before 9 am..


  34. G says:

    America politics and the 2020 election.
    The Globalist/Socialist, ‘The Globalist’ suggests to the Dems, they could take lessons from the UK 2019 election.

    Only one phrase applies: ‘A bad workman always blames his tools’.


  35. Thoughtful says:

    What on Earth is this, unreported by the media in the UK

    Quoil Ltd

    Nature of business (SIC)

    56101 – Licensed restaurants
    56102 – Unlicensed restaurants and cafes
    56302 – Public houses and bars


    SHUJATA, Aqib Lora
    YOUNG, Anthony

    Each of these has only one directorship under companies house registrations, but here’s the kicker, the man behind it all pulling the strings with a 75% ownership:

    Mr Aqib Soulja

    Nature of control
    Ownership of shares – 75% or more
    Ownership of voting rights – 75% or more
    Right to appoint and remove directors

    This sounds like a made up name with ‘soulja’ being used by hip hop singers as a homophone for ‘soldier’.

    Who is this man and why is there so very little information about him on the web?

    What on Earth are these two thicko lefties doing here ?


  36. digg says:

    R4 Women Hour… 92% of cosmetic Surgery is carried out on Women, what does that tell us about what we are MADE to think and do?

    It’s those nasty men up to no good again MAKING them do it!


  37. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “Manchester sex abuse: ‘Fundamental flaws’ left children unprotected”

    “The review of a multi-agency operation, launched after a child’s death in 2003, found at least 97 “predominantly Asian men” were suspected of offences, but “very few” were brought to justice.”

    The operation was set up to tackle “the sexual exploitation throughout a wide area of a significant number of children in the care system by predominantly Asian men”, it said.

    “It said despite Victoria’s carers being aware of her being subjected to “multiple threats, sexual assaults and serious sexual exploitation” and revealing she was being “injected with heroin by an older Asian man… no action was taken by the police or social care”.”

    “GMP Assistant Chief Constable Mabs Hussain said the force “accept that authorities fell short of doing all they could to protect and support the child victims of sexual exploitation identified.”

    What does ‘predominantly Asian men’ mean?

    51% perhaps? Or 99%? Mealy mouthed words, I think.

    Asian? It’s code for Muslim men of Pakistani origin. Yet again.


    • john in cheshire says:

      Here’s a little bit of truth that needs to be told:


      • G says:

        It is being told and receiving much interest in this form:

        44 million in no time at all. People are learning


        • JamesArthur says:

          His view is what I learned when working in Libya…..and that was when Gaddafi was in reason to believe it has changed


    • Sluff says:

      If the ‘Asian’ men in question were from Japan, Singapore, or Taiwan, or Buddhists or Shintoists, I somehow suspect their country of origin and belief set might just have been named.


    • G says:

      “What does ‘predominantly Asian men’ mean?”
      For the BBC? – an unspecified element of white male.
      For the person making the statement? – a further exercise of Taquiyya.


    • Englands Dreaming says:

      Well thats a bit more information than the report I just heard on Radio 5. It didn’t mention the perpetrators at all!

      Media interest in this story seems pretty low, despite being a breaking news story.


    • Thoughtful says:

      I don’t know why people get so bothered about this.

      Every time I speak about politicians not being paid enough, and the fact they take bribes from Middle Eastern Muslims to promote Islam and Muslims in the UK, and virtually every time people say they would rather live with the consequences than pay a realistic amount.

      Well here are the consequences. Politicians used political correctness as a means of control, in order to prevent the people of this country rising up against the threat from Muslims. They have fought needless wars at the behest of their real masters, and they have betrayed the people of this country for their own personal gain.

      And yet people tell me this is all perfectly acceptable so long as they don’t have to pay them a reasonable salary.


    • Thoughtful says:

      I don’t know why people get so bothered about this.

      Every time I speak about politicians not being paid enough, and the fact they take bribes from Middle Eastern Muslims to promote Islam and Muslims in the UK, and virtually every time people say they would rather live with the consequences than pay a realistic amount.

      Well here are the consequences. Politicians used political correctness as a means of control, in order to prevent the people of this country rising up against the threat from Muslims. They have fought needless wars at the behest of their real masters, and they have betrayed the people of this country for their own personal gain.

      And yet people tell me this is all perfectly acceptable so long as they don’t have to pay them a reasonable salary.


  38. Sluff says:

    In the Radio Times next week we are told that the massive anticipated growth in the world population by 2100 will be due to Africa. There will be 600 million more Nigerians alone – who will all need feeding.
    Has anyone told St Greta? Surely she should be paddling down there in a canoe to tell them not to have sex? Perhaps the BBC could offer her sponsorship.
    And just in case we need patronising further, we have Chris Packham to tell us that it is all the fault of the West.
    Presumably its also the fault of the West to have invented cures and vaccinations for typhoid, cholera, polio, diptheria, hepatitus, malaria, smallpox and any number of other illnesses which used to keep the population down……………
    The BBC. World class in selective amnesia and hypocrisy.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      That’s going to be a lot of Nigerian princes looking for your help to get their money out.

      Oh! I wonder if Harry & Meghan have considered something along that line?


  39. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Change of policy at the Guardian?

    “Sign in and continue reading for free
    Help keep our independent, progressive journalism alive and thriving by taking a couple of simple steps to sign in”

    “Sign in” “Why sign in?” “Not Now”

    I have not seen this before in this independent, progressive publication.
    They must be desperate, good.
    Creating an account to read the articles seems to be compulsory now. Hopefully the numbers doing so will drop precipitously.
    The intention is usually selling your private details, I think I will not bother.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Last I use hooky details and email address and clear the cookies . I always feel a bit dirty after going to The guardian


      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        I do this on BBBC, where it is tolerated.
        It was not tolerated in the Guardian two years ago.
        It was not tolerated on Guido c3 months ago.

        I just saw a new, to me, “Sign In” pop up on the BBC.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Damn – I was going to sign in as ‘ ash ‘ the dusky communist who allegedly bangs like a kitchen door – but I’d be of a completely different demographic – coming from the first country on those awful drop down lists where U is too far down the choices – Andorra –


  40. digg says:

    The BBC have finally put the Manchester Grooming and Rape story on R4 and the website and not buried in the Northern section.

    This has taken the much too long, they must be gritting their teeth.
    They should be included in the investigation….

    Oddly if you look at the article link on the website home page “Exploited Children…” You will notice that this link article avoids any mention or description of the “Perpetrators”


    • Dover Sentry says:

      And no mention of their religion. Methodists again, I suspect 🙂


    • Terminal Moraine says:

      via BBC: “GMP Assistant Chief Constable Mabs Hussain said the force ‘accept that authorities fell short’.”

      Mabs Hussain in 2018: “My parents are from Pakistan […] I lived in Girlington in Bradford, an inner city area, very mixed in terms of the diversity of the area […] there was a strong community of people looking out for each other.”

      Conflict of interest much? What a mess.


      • StewGreen says:

        I thought someone would mention Mabs.
        I wouldn’t pin anything on him immediately, cos he has been in the Assistant Chief Constable of GMP job for less that 2 years, and comes from an outside force.
        so he was not responsible for the initial coverups but is involved in this new opening up.


  41. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Labour leadership: Lewis suggests referendum on royals
    Labour leadership contender Clive Lewis has suggested holding a referendum on the future of the Royal Family.
    “I completely respect the right of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle to do what they’ve done,” he said, adding that Ms Markle
    had received racism in the British media.

    “I think a lot of people would like to be able to see the monarchy scaled down,” he stated.

    Lewis is no longer a contender but still seems to be as thick as Rayner.
    OK Clive, let us have a referendum.
    But The Labour Party should accompany their referendum suggestions with details of what they will do if they do not like its result.

    What a lot of people would like to see scaled down, preferably stopped, is the import of millions of aliens who hate us, who have no intentions of conforming with our laws and are of negative value to the UK.

    What a lot of people would like to see scaled down, preferably stopped, is the building of houses on our, once green and pleasant land, to house these unwanted invaders.


  42. The Sage says:

    Not on the BBC, I wonder why.
    But what’s the connection here as guardsmen from one of the UK’s finest regiments turn to crime (or maybe they never left)?


  43. G says:

    A technical point about the EU Withdrawal Act currently passing through the stages of scrutiny. Historically, the Executive has always sought to control the courts and, historically, the courts have always fought back to retain their independence by way of the wonderful mechanism of Judicial Reivew. So they are well versed in the Executives sneaky attempts to wrest control.
    But the points made here:
    are, interesting as these Executive moves are, unprecedented in their blatancy within the historic tussle.
    The authors cite the EU document, ‘Strengthening the rule of law within the Union A blueprint for action’ as some sort of fixed point within which our future relationship with the EU will be judged as an example of seeking continuing control over the UK.
    But, when any EU document starts by suggesting: “The European Union is based on a set of shared values, including fundamental rights, democracy, and the rule of law” you know that the two-faced EU, are merely seeking EU citizens approval of, effectively creating more control of the public, it is a false path to follow. Since the EU, itself, does not act in any, ‘democratic’ way I trust the negotiators working for the UK will dismiss this document if the issue arises from the EU side by expecting the UK to comply with its spirit.


  44. Fedup2 says:

    Guido reports something the BBC won’t – ( I won’t use the ‘ wonder why thing sometimes people here use because I like to plainly explain ) . It’s because it is ‘ sensitive ‘ and about Pensions . I think Pensions are a collective weakness for BBC employees and should be threatened .

    Anyway Guido reports that there was a meeting of all the UK MEPs and staff last night – so thousands must have turned up with partners and kids and friends on the gravy train

    Apparently it got a bit ‘ emotional’ when some poor loves were told they weren’t going to get what they thought and had probably ‘ banked ‘

    They also got instructions on how to empty their offices et al on the 31st of January .

    It would make a great documentary – I’m sure the MSM wouldn’t do it as they are in frozen denial – but I bet amazon or nettyflicks would have a punt

    Or maybe a major motion picture – who gets to play Nigel Farage ?

    I’m think Idris Elba or Sir Lenny ,, getting down with the culture eh?


  45. digg says:

    Spookily, as the Manchester rape story breaks on the BBC, both The Guardian and the Independent ignoring it and instead running with front page stories along the same lines.

    “More than 3 million adults in England and Wales were victims of child sexual abuse, new figures show”

    This is so blatantly aimed at “normalising” the Manchester/Rotherham stuff to reduce the impact…

    See! we are all guilty!

    However a quick read shows that the abuse they are talking about includes being “told off” and “threatened” so not actually being injected with heroin and gang raped!

    The MSM are just disgusting weasels the lot of them!


    • Dover Sentry says:

      It disgusts me the way the BBC talk about ‘Historic Rapes’ in order to diminish the severity.


      • Sluff says:

        And lets just remember who was running the government back in 2003/04 when the offences took place.
        Yes, it was a Labour government and I have mo hesitation in believing that the politically correct multicultural mood of the time almost certainly caused the authorities to back off in their primary duty of providing protection- because to ‘discover’ that the perpetrators were Pakistani Muslims just could not be allowed.


      • Thoughtful says:

        The way they talk disgusts you? Don’t forget that the BBC actively enouraged and promoted these rapists by sending undercover reporters to attack the BNP and Nick Griffin when they were talking about these rapes. They even handed over a dossier to the Gestapo and had Griffin prosecuted for daring to discuss the truth of what was happening.

        They produced a documentary called ‘the secret agent’ about it where they gloated about their self righteousness, and they attempted to repeat this outrage in Heywood when there were protests about the paedophile rapes going on there.

        Odd how the BBC takes the side of Muslims against the white people it clearly hates so much.


  46. LastChanceSaloon says:

    BBC NEWS Entertainment and Arts
    All on the same screen!

    Who’s been nominated for an Oscar?
    Little Women stars’ real-life sisterhood
    Making Costumes fit for Little Women
    Oscars 2020: ‘Just these white guys, really?’
    Oscars 2020: Heller and Hanks on A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood
    Why top film director says Baftas must change
    Hopkins and Pryce nominated for Oscars
    Oscars 2020: 9 snubs and surprises
    Oscars 2020: How diverse are the nominations?
    Oscars 2020: Joker leads pack with 11 nominations

    Does anyone with an IQ over 100 really give a **** about films in general and and the Oscars in particular?


    • Fedup2 says:

      It’s strange because it’s the only time the BBC gets even remotely pro UK nations just because some luvvie who was born in Wales / Scotland et al got a gong .
      The fact he she now lives in America gets a pass …


    • vlad says:

      The beeb are in thrall to La La Land because the luvvies, directors and movies all share their ultra-liberal, diverse, politically correct world view which they foist on the rest of the world.


  47. Thoughtful says:

    Today Australia has come out warning the UK that using the Huawei 5G for UK infrastructure because of security issues.
    They are able to cite several reasons as to how this will compromise UK security – exactly the same as the Americans are telling us.

    But Boris doesn’t seem to want to listen. I remember May promoting this company, and the US threatening us with no cooperation over sensitive security if she did.

    Given the dire warnings, and the fact that there are other vendors available the only plausible explanation which makes any sense comes back to bribery and corruption again.


  48. Thoughtful says:

    More of the cowardly useless incompetent Tories failing to deport foreign born criminals and their offspring.

    Under Boris the Bottler deportations have fallen by 25% and even those few who were deemed by the courts after many many hearings safe to deport still have not been.

    Boris is without a doubt an utter coward. He will not take the steps necessary to end these cases, he will simply turn a blind eye and get back to his nice lunches and claret whilst wishing to be undisturbed.


  49. StewGreen says:

    R2 Vine show doing its bit to “calm” division
    They invited Farage on
    .. then after he’d gone they lined up angry Remoaniac, who lost it and had be cut off when he exploded that ‘Brexit voters are a gang of racists.’


  50. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Uttar Pradesh has started identifying illegal migrants under the controversial law.


    A law that ‘identifies’ illegality becomes controversial in Beebworld.

    Must run that by Capita’s goons.