Start the Week Thread 13 January 2020

18 days until the UK leaves the EU. Last week the legislation finalising our leaving passed through the Commons with barely a mention by the Biased pro EU BBC; and at the moment it is busy with royal issues . Perhaps it is at a stage of organisational grief combined with a feeling of hopelessness that the General Election didn’t go the way the BBC wanted .

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343 Responses to Start the Week Thread 13 January 2020

  1. Right Angle says:

    First?! — Apologies as I scramble around to look for something to post — as ever, the DM to the rescue again:

    Perhaps another reason for the BBC’s “organisational grief” and sense of hopelessness?

    Edit 1: Yay, made it!

    Edit 2: Look at the second point the DM made:

    “The broadcaster was accused of catering to a pro-Remain metropolitan ‘bubble'”

    The BBC should really plead guilty!


    • Dover Sentry says:

      “You can take the BBC out of the Bubble, but you can’t take the Bubble out of the BBC”. (Attributed to Dover Sentry).

      BBC staff will only associate and communicate with fellow Bubble dwellers wherever they are posted. Nothing will change. Every city in the UK has a Bubble-Land waiting for them.


    • Thoughtful says:

      The only real reason the cowardly useless incompetent Tories want HS2 is to get BBC personnel from London to Manchester and back to Islington or Hampstead in time for dinner.

      There’s no other real use for it and ordinary folk won’t be able to afford it anyway.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Thoughtful, HS2 is also incredibly carbon dependent and energy hungry and the locomotive units cannot be made more energy efficient over time.


        • Dave S says:

          Theoretically any electric locomotive can be powered by electricity generated by solar or wind. This is not the main criticism of HS2 rather it is whether the capacity problems looming are best served by it or not and whether the route proposed is sensible.
          The debate continues and the fate of HS2 will rest on this.


          • Up2snuff says:

            Dave S, quite right. Some Greenies even think that any train, especially electric locos, run on air. There’s another problem with any electric motor and especially, I would have thought, one powerful enough to get a train full of politicians, Civil Servants and Chief Executives up to 230mph: they produce heat.

            Those of us that have played with Hornby trains or Scalextric cars know all about that.

            The Greenies probably have houses full of the things – pulling the curtains, grinding the coffee beans – because they think because there is a windmill somewhere or a solar panel on the house opposite, they produce no Global Warming.



        • dfhunter says:

          @Thoughtful – can you share examples of the proposed prices the “cowardly useless incompetent Tories” are about to inflict for this on “ordinary folk”?

          Up2snuff – “HS2 is also incredibly carbon dependent”
          cars,bus,planes,lecy bikes are carbon dependent you know!!!

          maybe we should all wind surf to work?


      • Dave S says:

        A gross simplification of the issue.


      • Jagman84 says:

        If HS2 fares are set at a level so that ordinary folk cannot afford to use it, then it will rapidly die a financial death, once in service. I am not sure where this idea of exorbitantly-priced ticketing to exclude the great unwashed originated from, but I expect it was concocted by the anti-HS2 brigade.


    • StewGreen says:

      Backlinks to previous thread
      page 3 had about 10 posts from Sunday afternoon
      page 2


  2. LastChanceSaloon says:

    “Left and right should learn to take a joke, not censor them”

    The Nobel prize for false equivalence is awarded to an extreme Marxist.

    “Kenan Malik
    When a professor loses his job for mockery, and a film is attacked for political correctness, both sides should take notice
    Sun 12 Jan 2020 07.30 GMT”

    Which “led to an inevitable outpouring of outrage on Twitter from conservative snowflakes.”

    Two Nobel prizes for false equivalence.

    “It’s not just speech the left thinks is politically incorrect that will get censored.”

    Yes it is, Marxism is nonsense, the only way you Communists will “win” arguments is a continuation of silencing your opponents.
    100,000,000 silenced in c20, in case anyone has forgotten.

    Yet again in a Guardian article, the least hilarious and most intolerant organisation in history is not mentioned.


    • Thoughtful says:

      There’s a big difference between losing your lifes career and criticising someones work.

      That’s the part the Guardian misses of course, the criticism of left wing issues is like shouting at the wind, and has no real effect, whereas even the mildest true criticism of the left can have dire consequence.

      Of course the cowardly useless incompetent Tories should be doing something to stop left wing bullying, but they haven’t got a clue and would have the spine to enact it if they did.


  3. LastChanceSaloon says:
    2020-01-13 00:00
    BBC NEWS – Stories

    Stories, so not news at all, propaganda.

    “‘I want an egg donor with my heritage'”

    Heritage being black.

    White egg donors are currently “over represented” amongst UK egg donors, and the Black and Asian, white hating, Broadcasting Co-operative do not approve.

    This “news” is a BBC appeal for black egg donors.

    Shut it down.


    • JimS says:

      Given that pregnancy and birth carry risks to a woman’s health no woman should be given eggs that aren’t hers, especially when there are plently of children in want of adoption.


  4. digg says:

    The BBC mouthpiece Independent running with a shock poll that says 52% off UK voters now back staying in the EU.

    The poll of course was conducted on behalf if the Independent, a paper with a circulation of around 58,000 so not that many UK voters involved and mostly academics etc. etc.

    Last gasp saloon!


    • Doublethinker says:

      It seems to me very likely that a large number of Remainers will become Rejoiners after 31 st Jan and carry on with their ‘resistance’ via every means available to them. The Brexit celebration will certainly not pass off without a Rejoiner wake or some such stunt. Unfortunately because the MSM is completely pro EU we can expect endless stories about how badly the country is doing, how disadvantageous the trade talks are going etc. Every single blip will be blown up out of all proportion to its real importance. The government and all Leavers need to hold our nerve and perhaps burning a few bridges to make it very difficult to rejoin will be a smart thing to do.
      Even if Boris wants to he won’t be able to get rid of the BBC in the next couple of years. So the foul corporation knows that it can save its skin by putting Labour back in power and rejoining the EU. It will certainly be in the vanguard of the Rejoin movement. The fight is far from over.


    • Beltane says:

      58,000? That many Digg? You sure you’ve not added Indy and Guardian together?


    • dfhunter says:

      also liked the Beeb reaction to Big Ben ringing in our exit from the EU.
      Something like “some will celebrate & some will mourn”

      “mourn – feel or show sorrow for the death of (someone), typically by following conventions such as the wearing of black clothes”

      I think they should do a EastEnders murder/funeral on the day.


  5. Halifax says:

    Major meltdown expected if all white and majority male Oscar nominations are announced.
    If anything the LA bubble unlike the London one are not stupid they have gone down the “woke nominations” route and it hasn’t paid off. LA is in it to make money people don’t pay to be made “aware” or “lectured” they pay to be thrilled, entertained and amazed.
    You see the BBC don’t have to make money it’s given them and with that “free” money they persue their agenda which isn’t about thrilling entertaining or amazing people thier agenda is “message” they are under the illusion that if they hammer away long enough we will all accept the message, we won’t.


    • Englands Dreaming says:

      Sly news yesterday did an Oscar nominations report, nothing about whether the films were any good, just about how the noms weren’t diverse. I’m triggered by the word diverse so immediately then hit the off button.


    • dfhunter says:

      @Halifax January 13, 2020 at 7:05 am

      as white male from the UK I am pissed with the bias against my race/gender on the Beeb.

      watch any news interview & we are lucky to get a hearing.


  6. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    Lefty film director dies – gets a mention . Sir Roger Scrutton – philosopher of the right – dies – no mention

    Our Justin interviews Ukrainian foreign minister – uses the ‘ some say’ to accuse president trump of guilt by association for shooting down a jet and killing 176 people .

    Ukrainian foreign minister calls that ‘ nonsense ‘ and that even the Iranian President didn’t try that one on . Only the BBC so institutionally hateful of President Trump – would keep that lefty lie going .


    • Doublethinker says:

      It is exactly the same in the US. They get away with it because within the MSM there is virtually no counter point of view and they can get away with endless distortions and lies. As I think you mentioned last week there is a great yawning gap in the news and current affairs market for anyone brave enough to take a right of centre anti Woke position .


    • john in cheshire says:

      I think all interviewees should dissect, challenge and ask for clarification of every word that is used in every question put to them before giving an answer.

      And if the clown asking the question begins to talk over them or interrupt them in their answers, the interviewee should stop answering and seek further clarification of why they have been brought onto the programme.


  7. Fedup2 says:

    Toady 2
    Still rambling on about a prince and his American actress wife . I was reminded of an alleged quote from 2019 – before they got hitched – attributed to Prince Phillip –

    It was – as reported by the Mailonline ;

    ‘One steps out with actresses, one doesn’t marry them’

    I’m guessing this ‘quote ‘ will be dug up again – to ‘prove’ racism et al.


    • JamesArthur says:

      Maybe Phillip has learnt something in his life 🙂


    • john in cheshire says:

      Shakespeare said something like: All the world’s a stage and we all have our entrances and exits.

      What if what we are watching now is pure theatre? What if everyone involved from the Queen down is just an actor?

      What if none of these people are actually real?

      What if the script writers are preparing us for the exit of a few main players; for example, Philip and Elizabeth; and the Harry and Sparkles storyline is just to keep us focused and entertained before the surprise denouement?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest who

      Unfortunately the tweet you linked is now shown as deleted .

      I missed the interview on Toady with Arlene foster who is after more money for Northern Ireland . I hope she was reminded of the ‘ bribe’ money Teresa May gave to Northern Ireland to keep the DUP sweet in the last corrupt parliament ? .


      • Guest Who says:

        I can still see it. Reinstated or cache?

        Maybe newsniffer or some other archive thingie?


      • Guest Who says:

        It was a classic bbc combo of one degree of separation combined with hardly impartial quoting about an awful lot of Somalians being potentially racially profiled. Seems they thought better of it.


        • Guest Who says:

          Safer ground, quoting… a colleague.


          • JamesArthur says:

            Don’t you just love it when they say ‘they’ know what Harry wanted, thinks…when even the Queen was broadsided…
            and of course got to get racism in there….it is nothing to do with racism – why does the left always play these cards?


  8. Guest Who says:

    Love the bit about learning to install a wind turbine as an extra.


    • digg says:

      Not only that, they mentioned she is ex NHS (she quit her well paid job!) so more money in putting bow ties on Llamas than Nursing nudge-nudge!


      • JamesArthur says:

        Funny the BBC normally shout how poorly paid NHS staff are .but in this case she quit her ‘well paid’ job…not a mention. oh well when the story suits the narrative forget the facts


    • Dystopian says:

      Will she offer to refund the taxpayers for all her wasted years of ‘NHS funded’ medical training ?


      • john in cheshire says:

        She might have been well paid but what did she do to earn it? What benefit did she bring to the NHS by being employed by them?
        It’s the NHS worse of by her leaving? Was she really needed?


  9. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – Duh, oh!

    Contributor from Antarctica is worried that visitors might bring invasive species with them a spoil a pristine environment. I thought the whole of Antarctica was destroyed by Global Warming and Climate Change? So we are being told, anyway.

    Apparently the problem is 80,000 tourists per year and that number is increasing. 80,000 people pollution flying to Antarctica and boarding polluting ships (with the heating turned up – Antarctica is cold at any time of the year) just to see a penguin that can be seen in local zoo.

    No mention from Justin about Global Warming, Climate Change and the Climate Emergency, at all, whatsoever. No mention of or question about banning or limiting CO2 & methane producing tourists.

    Funny that. That strange Global Warming & Climate Change has suddenly disappeared again.


    • Dystopian says:

      “ worried that visitors might bring invasive species with them a spoil a pristine environment.”

      But it’s ok for the rest of the world to be invaded.


  10. Guest Who says:

    The BBC has to go.
    “ScoMo has to go!”

    Australia’s PM Scott Morrison has faced significant criticism over his handling of the bushfires.
    They know ‘the mood’ of another country, apparently.

    Based presumably on the insights of a Pakistani reporter airflown in a few moths ago, and Mick Bryant.


  11. davylars says:

    BCC breakfast once again reporting the flaming obvious..
    Pictures from Venice of gondola’s stranded in the mud.
    Another climate crisis?
    No BCC.. it happens twice every day. They call them ‘tides’
    Here is a graph to help illustrate it for you.
    Yes it was a spring tide this weekend…


    Do we really pay for these researchers and producers?


    • Dystopian says:

      Oh damn! Where will I steal my Cornetto now?

      But I thought the whole of Venice was going to be under the water by now? Isn’t that what the BBC were telling us not so long ago?


  12. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Duh, oh! all over again – how dim do you need to be to be a Vice-Chancellor?

    Patrick Campbell provides Thought for the Day. (TftD) He has been to Sydney in Australia. He is concerned about the fires. No doubt he is concerned about Global Warming and Climate Change. So why has he flown to Sydney? He is moving there, apparently. One return flight to be followed by a single flight. Or is he travelling out to Oz by bicycle?

    I assume he will return to the UK for vacations or family reasons. How does he justify his CO 2 emissions, I wonder? He is Vice-Chancellor for St Mary’s University. I’m told he is also a trustee of Forward Thinking a London based NGO and think-tank. If he believes CO2 is the primary cause of Global Warming and Climate Change, his personal forward thinking seems to be somewhat lacking.


  13. Guest Who says:

    I at first thought this was a reference to a previous royal lady of controversy. But no.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Is BBC pidgin a joke ? Or some taxpayer funded nonsense for people who can’t be bothered to learn di kings ingleesh innit? Despair


      • Dystopian says:

        The whole of the BBC is a joke. A very unfunny joke. As is the telly tax. Come on Boris, don’t just talk the talk. Walk the walk and defund the biased anti British Broadcaster.


      • dfhunter says:

        Is BBC pidgin a joke ?
        No Fed, I find it’s insights into the royal train wreck lucid & insightful.
        like this – “Another thing we de for inside dis tori, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex say her British friend warn am say ‘gossip newspaper’ go destroy her”
        that was in 21 October 2019


  14. Dystopian says:

    Oh it was so heartwarming to hear Julia Hartley Brewer, over on Talk Radio this morning, challenging one of her co-presenters on his fake man made climate change narrative. He was claiming that,the reason Fly-Be are in financial difficulties, is because ‘people’s’ attitudes to flying are changing due to their awareness of climate issues. Julia asserted that her attitude hasn’t changed. She said that, even if all flights, all over the world were stopped, then it would make an insignificant difference of maybe 1% of global warming emissions.
    I’m not sure if this figure is correct, but how refreshing to hear someone challenge the narrative. Something you certainly will not hear on the biased BBC.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I only fly a couple of times a month . I stick a couple of bricks in the hold luggage to meet the 32k allowance to get my carbon money’s worth …!


      • Fedup2 says:

        If you look at the Radio 4 schedule today you might think it’s one of their weak attempts at comedy –

        It ranges from

        45 minutes on a world without work
        15 minutes book of the week – why Wimmim read fiction
        Wimmins hour ( normal man bashing )
        15 minute Green stuff at 1-45
        45 minutes of Wimmins drama
        Something about Wimmin wanting a black coloured sperm doner
        I’m sure I saw the miserable food programme doing something about brewing and anorexics
        30 minutes about a women having panic attacks in her sleep

        60 minutes on why radio doesn’t attend to the needs or views of wimmin ( made that one up ) .
        I’m sure the ladies will enjoy listening to all that stuff . Is there a word for man hating ? Do men buy TV licences ?


        • JamesArthur says:

          misandry: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men (i.e. the male sex).
          You never hear it on BBC …only misogyny…


          • Fedup2 says:

            Thank you . I really didn’t know that but I think it will be a handy word being used more often .

            I can imagine all those £200k BBC managers sitting around planning gender based radio stations But not Radio white Chap of course ….


            • Scroblene says:

              I always thought that ‘Les Misandry’ was written by some French geezer who thought his name was similar to Jeremy Thorpe, so Prince Andrew Webber made up some songs to go with it, and made a squillion Harrabins out of the proceeds…

              p.s. I still have a cassette of Paul McCartney’s Liverpool Oratorio if anyone wants it, I’ve never actually played it!


        • Dystopian says:

          “ Something about Wimmin wanting a black coloured sperm doner”

          I hope you mean donor, although you could probably be getting the alternative at the ‘kebab shop’ after a night out on the lash of a weekend! That’s why I won’t eat anything from those establishments.


      • Up2snuff says:

        LOL x 5!


  15. taffman says:

    Do we have a Royal gold digger in ‘The Firm’ ?


  16. Foscari says:

    I went to see the film 1917 on Saturday evening. It was one
    of the best films I have EVER seen. Should the fact be that
    because it is about a subject where we see next to
    none ethnic characters prevent it from winning the major
    awards? Should Roger Deakins not win the cinematography
    award for the best camera work you will ever likely to see ,
    because he is a white male? Sam Mendes the director
    comes from Portuguese Creole descent . Isn’t this good enough
    for you BBC , with your inverted racism? I am sorry he is not a
    women like 75% of your news and politics presenters.
    I tell you what BBC to ease your paranoid perverted conscience
    get your positive discrimiation, inclusiveness, diversity dept to
    get BBC film productions to make a a film about black knife
    wielding drug gangs in London . BUT have all white characters
    in the roles.


    • Sluff says:

      Must take you up on your outrageous suggestion that 75% of news and politics presenters on the BBC are women.

      It is nowhere near that low on BBC London.


  17. JamesArthur says:

    Just caught the start of the why women read fiction…WTF within the first 2 minutes she got in that her fantasy fiction was better than then men in real life and then how she worked in US and discovered American literature especially black and Afro literature..
    I have continued to listen…and it hasn’t improved – apparently men don’t like women reading, especially alone – she seems to have a fixation on sex….did we pay for this?


    • Fedup2 says:

      James Ha Ha – I’m glad I don’t won’t pay for it . I’m out of Blighty for a while but when I get back I’m sure to have more welcome letters from TV tax collection Stasi .


  18. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – Nothing like backing the wrong side

    Labour Party, led by a deeply principled, sincere and honest leader (leadership candidates’ opinions), chooses to back the anti-Brexit anti-democrat fascist group in the post-Referendum period and loses.


    The BBC, led by a deeply principled, absent (except when wanting more money or power), sincere and honest DG – I hope and assume – backs the Iranian regime and loses.


    It is amusing to see both Parties, Labour and the Teheran Broadcasting Corporation (formerly known as the BBC) wriggling and trying to escape the hooks they have hung themselves on. The Labour Party appear to be on the point of making things even worse for themselves by electing a titled anti-democratic, anti-Brexit, male as leader. (Now where have I heard of that happening before?)

    And the TOADY programme tried to smooth things over by suddenly switching sides to the anti-Government protesters in Iran and having a bit of an ear-grindingly awful cultural exchange at the end of the programme. If you are of an extreme masochistic tendency you may listen again on BBC Sounds, formerly known as iPlayer.


  19. StewGreen says:

    9am Radio4 was most sane with Tom Sutcliffe in charge instead of Red Andy Marr pushing his agendas
    There was an item about a new version of the Big Isue presented by an Asian journo

    Then at 9:45am it changed back to Radio-SpecialVictimhood groups
    9:45am WOMEN read different to men
    (Do they that seems like a sexist generalisation, some women do, but not all
    Am I a “non-man” cos I am no interested in football ?)

    10:00 WH was united the evil press are “WHITE MALES” who are racist & sexist against Meghan


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Stew- your last line: I listened to wimmins hour with one ear to see if it would be as utterly predictable as one expected. For at least 80% it was: accusations of ‘racism’ and ‘sexism’ against the press and against the British, in general, abounded.
      There was little or no attempt to examine Meghan and/or Harry’s behaviour and/or any other factor that might have been relevant. (e.g. how little time Meghan gave the situation before ‘escaping’ for Canada).
      Actually, the minute they kicked off with Afua Hirsch, we all knew what shape beeb were looking for in this programme.
      A bit like Hitler running a phone-in show and kicking off with Goebbels, to provide ‘independent comment’.


      • JamesArthur says:

        You have to get quote of the week . “A bit like Hitler running a phone-in show and kicking off with Goebbels, to provide ‘independent comment.”


        • Up2snuff says:

          And a titled British man ‘phoning in as the first and frequent repeat caller. “And next on, after the commercial break, will be Sir Oswald.”


      • BRISSLES says:

        What’s betting Hirsch or her mate Sarpong will be on an upcoming edition of The Pledge to keep the racist song going in the discussion.


  20. Sluff says:

    I don’t know if it some surreal combination of frustration and self-denial, but on the Iranian Broadcasting Corporation this morning on Toady, Justremainin Webb was STILL peddling the line that Trump bore a share of the blame for Iran’s shooting down of the passenger plane. This is AFTER the Iranians themselves have accepted responsibility.

    They are totally desperate.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Sluff- Beeb and Toady, in particular, appear to have an abiding hatred for Trump.
      I can see no situation arising, in which he is not going to receive the blame from them, for whatever has arisen. They do not have it in them to be objective about him.
      For one thing, he was ‘responsible for keeping a woman from becoming the first female president’. Crime enough, in their eyes? Not to mention that he was supposedly from the ‘Right’, whatever that means, and we know in what great affection beeb holds this political affiliation!


    • JamesArthur says:


      It is amazing isn’t it how little the BBC have reported on the the fact that the Iranian high command lied about the plane….
      Now if they found out POTUS had lied….hypocrisy at its best
      I am sure BBC will report later that a ‘man’ with psychological problems shot the plane down because he was out of medication’


      • JimS says:

        The BBC don’t need to ‘find out’ anything, President Trump is guilty, (now what’s the question?).

        Don’t forget they would have us believe that it took the US four years to apologise for USS Vincennes shooting down Iran Air flight 655, rather than within 24 hours, as reported by The Washington Post at the time.


      • dfhunter says:

        @Sluff – “It is amazing isn’t it how little the BBC have reported on the fact”
        that the Iranian’s shot it down & killed all those people, not a peep from the Beeb!!!

        now if it could have linked to Russia?


    • jazznick1 says:


      Yes I caught that one too while choking on my tea. !

      The Iranian guy he was talking to even dismissed the opportunity to drag POTUS into this one much to Justin’s dismay, priceless.


  21. digg says:

    Radio 1 Xtra getting excited about all the new upcoming music stars Hot for 2020.

    Bet you can’t wait to see them all!


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Crimewatch Most Wanted?
      At least it encouraged me to turn to the superior creations of our ancestors.
      Beethoven trios accompanied by reproductions of Durer and Constable.


    • dfhunter says:

      digg – have to wonder what country I live in at times (take it only people of a certain type where up for this (mostly) London review)


  22. Terminal Moraine says:

    Radio 5 Live with Emma Barnett this morning:

    — New kitchen knives on sale without the pointy end to stop stabbings
    — Male make up: a new range released amidst increased demand
    — Hymen repair operations to give the illusion of virginity for girls where “sexual purity is held within the honour of the family.” Who’s making them do this? Somalian-born pundit Nimco Ali: “their community and their family…”

    Progressivism for the win.


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Clitoridectomy! Followed by Hymen reconstruction!

      Was this demanded by a demented crackpot in the paleolithithic?

      Just before he drew the periodic table, invented the electron microscope and made other scientific advances too numerous to list.


    • Dystopian says:

      “ New kitchen knives on sale without the pointy end to stop stabbings”

      How completely pointless!

      (They’ll just use a machete or a pair of scissors instead.)


  23. Terminal Moraine says:

    Not BBC but Brent council — which has been given the title of ‘Borough of Culture’ for this year. From the blurb: Brent 2020 promises to “challenge definitions of culture” and will “examine the relationship between power and people and celebrate migration.” Some British cultures are noticeable in their absence here.

    At 0:17 a woman refers to what I assume must be Wembley with total disdain: “I am more than this lonely stadium for your silly games…” Promoting a borough by insulting the UK’s flagship sports venue doesn’t make any sense to me. But then I live in an adjacent borough which isn’t quite as richly cultured as Brent (but getting there week by week).


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    • Kaiser says:

      how many of these underpaid wammin been scooped up by other broadcasters/newsgroups looking for some cut price talent.

      Surely the head hunters are in a feeding frenzy


  25. StewGreen says:

    Greta : An Indian UN supporter set up her Facebook account
    and she was added later
    Full context


  26. digg says:

    R4 Wimmins Hour discussing a city lady who managed to max out 7 credit cards for many thousands of pounds gambling.

    Conclusion, nasty gambling companies the reason more protection needed for “vulnerable” people not professional greedy lady trying to get lots of cash without working for it.


  27. Ed Hitter says:

    Jeremy Vine programme this lunchtime. What was the first item about?
    Yes, oh so predictably, it’s all about racism and Meghan Markle.
    So, even more oxygen is given by the BBC to this ridiculous, unfounded, divisive notion – and Vine doesn’t even bother to ask for the evidence.


  28. Stevo says:

    I hoped that post election we would have a less agenda driven and biased BBC. I was wrong.
    Last night they seemed to revel in Iranians, protesting against the West rather than protesting against their own government. Anti western position taken.
    The main News presenters were 1 x Asian Lady, 2 x White woman, 1 x Black Man 1 x White man, 1x Asian Man.
    I don’t care about ethnicity, gender or sexual orientation. I just expect it to be broadly in line with the population at large. Anti indigenous population position taken.
    I listened to Radio 4 this morning and the inference was that white males are racist over Megan. Not my experience, I don’t care that she is mixed race. Good luck to her, until this row which appears badly handled and selfish. Anti White Male position taken.
    I then heard a section on women’s favourite literature. An opportunity to criticise men’s reading of choice. I don’t care that men and women typically choose to read different genres. The most important issue here is that boys tend to read less than girls and that is a significant factor in girls excelling in school more than boys. Surely the important thing is helping to redress the balance rather than criticising men for their choice of reading material. The idea that men wish to prevent women reading their choice of literature is absurd. My wife can read what she likes, I hope she enjoys it. The very idea that I would have the temerity to criticise her choice is as ridiculous as her taking any notice if I did.
    This is the 21st century, women are not oppressed in the west. Racism is illegal and I wouldn’t say completely eradicated, but it is broadly.
    I am so pissed off listening to a constant demonization of me and nice kind regular people like me that I know.


  29. Sluff says:

    Until the BBC told me what to think, it did not occur to me that Meghan Markle was ‘black’.

    Her case is not alone in the playing of the race card in order to distract from and avoid accountability for poor performance for which white people would be called out.


    • Charlie Farley says:

      Exactly I am the same …..didn’t realise Meghan was any sort of colour until the BBC amongst others brought it up . But some pictures of her do look different… has there been photo enhancing going on ?


    • JimS says:

      It must be really galling if you are a poor black, black person to hear all this winging.

      A bit like when Obama, a product of a white woman and a Kenyan man, brought up by white grandparents, milked the ‘two hundred years of suffering, descendant of slaves’ market.

      There must be 30 million of us in the UK that don’t have any cards to play in this ‘identity’ stakes game.


  30. fakenewswatcher says:

    R.I.P. Sir Roger Scruton. A giant among pygmies. Will be greatly missed.


  31. Fedup2 says:

    Youve got to hand to BBC news for negative spin . The UK economy grew by .1% in the quarter running upto the General Election.

    Given that a Marxist might have won it is a miracle that the economy grew at all .

    The BBC editorial just cannot stop its pessimism when it suits it .


  32. Guest Who says:

    Trouble in paradise?

    Haroon gunning for a slot on Newsnoght, because if not…


  33. Despairada says:

    Radio 4 1pm news:

    Discussion of Markle the Sparkle is tending towards the view that the lovely couple have been alienated by the press and their family and the constraints of the Royal life.

    No discussion of Her ambitions to be billionaire style rich instead of merely millionaire style rich which would be her fate if she knuckled down to Royal life.


    • JamesArthur says:

      Poor Meghan……Poor Poor Meghan….TWATO R4 discussing how Poor Poor Meghan will make her voice heard on a conference call…Well she chose to p*ss off to Canada. She is set for life now they have a child- will Ladbrokes take bets on time to divorce?


  34. Guest Who says:

    Shocked I tell you; shocked.


  35. BRISSLES says:

    Lets hope that ‘security’ is with Meghan if she does participate at the end of the phone in Canada, because I wouldn’t put it past her to have a recording of the narrative at the meeting – as surety for future use.


  36. Swelter says:

    Woman’s hour today unbelievable ! I stuck it for 15 minuets . 15 minuets of Garvey and her two guests explaining how poor Megan was driven out the UK by racism. It made for fascinating jaw dropping listening but not in a good way. I am returning to my old rule of never ,ever using the bBBC. I tip my hat to those of you who do monitor their propaganda you have my hearty thanks .
    The only downside of my policy of bBBC exclusion policy is that I cant comment as often as I would like on this excellent site. Cheers


  37. digg says:

    BBC Doctors on TV

    If you tuned into this show for the first time I promise you you will have no idea what you are watching.

    The entire show pretty much takes place in a doctors surgery where for some reason although there are loads of administrators and doctors drifting around, there are practically no patients.

    In good BBC style half of the staff are both coloured and very intelligent and the rest are stupid and white.

    Today an older white (of course) female staff member has received her postal DNA results but is scared to open the envelope because she is convinced she is 100% British and doesn’t want to find out otherwise. I will put money on the result being 25% Bangladeshi, 25% African, 25% Norwegian, 25% Chinese etc. when she finally opens the envelope.

    There is a plod chap who spends most of his time in the surgery and today is holding a young offenders session along with a hard-faced lesbian acting social services gal, his main protagonist is of course a 17 year old white lad.

    One of the white doctors has been hauled off to clink for drug abuse…..

    A couple come in white man, black women in labour and deaf. Looked after with great skill by the Indian looking lady nurse who learns sign-language on the fly…..

    It goes on every day much along these puke-making lines….

    I imagine at this time of day most of the viewers are Old White folk, so get at the Gammons seems to be the quest.

    More total BBC indoctrination B*ll*x!


  38. fakenewswatcher says:

    I see Harry and Meghan are not above a little blackmail. Apparently, they’ll ‘tell all’ on Oprah, if they don’t get their way.
    Disappointing to see how far they are sinking in so short a time.


  39. BRISSLES says:

    Its called prostituting yourself to the highest bidder ! Like wot Andrew the buffoon did, and it didn’t bode well for him in the end.

    Her maj would do well to tie him up to an NDA if he wants certain conditions met.


  40. Jeff says:

    Well, I hope you lot are pleased with yourselves.
    Of course I’m referring to the horrendous treatment suffered by the beautiful Meghan.
    I know that we’re a truly frightful lot because I’ve been listening to the BBC over the weekend and every whinger known to man has been on to berate us. We’re racist, we’re narrow minded and we’re ungrateful. My word, how that poor girl has suffered.
    I dread to think how much the wedding must have cost. It received wall to wall coverage and we had to endure about an hour of some half witted preacher she’d flown in. He was as mad as a hatter though the Beeb kept telling us he was a “delightful breath of fresh air.”.
    Then we stumped up over three million on renovations to a “cottage” they’ve barely set foot in. Clearly it wasn’t good enough.
    We pay for their security, their lavish lifestyle and their transport.
    And in return they have lectured us about our extravagant, ecologically unsound holidays and that we’re damaging the climate. And don’t forget we’re having far too many children.
    Honestly, we really are an insufferable and ungrateful nation.
    No wonder they’ve left…though apparently we’re still going to be paying for them.
    Someone pass the tissues…


    • Charlie Farley says:

      Bring back the good old days……anyone that doesn’t tow the line off to the Tower for head removal , that would save us poor tax payers a bundle !


  41. digg says:

    So Harry getting hot and bothered about the Times publishing the story calling it potentially harmful.

    This despite the fact that he and Meg decided to break the story without consulting the Queen then launching a new website to tout for future business!

    So, only report what they want you too hey?

    Doesn’t work like that at all.

    I also notice that the producers of their new website are currently engaged in a new website for a Company called Tokyo Smoke designed to launch the cannabis industry into Canada….

    “Helping Canada celebrate legalization”

    “Tokyo Smoke is a lifestyle cannabis brand with locations across Canada. With legalization day approaching, they came to us to build a destination for their Spend Ten Seventeen campaign — a pre-legalization push to build brand awareness and drive newsletter subscriptions.”

    Not sure they thought that one through and begin to question their judgement too!


  42. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Take Note:

    The Sun:

    “Meghan Markle is not a victim of media racism, insists Priti Patel”

    “Priti Patel furiously dismissed claims Meghan Markle has been the victim of racist press coverage.”

    She told BBC Radio 5 Live: “I am not in that category at all where I believe there has been racism.

    “I think we live in a great country, a great society, full of opportunity where people of every background can get on in life.”

    “Ms Patel today refused to say if she will strip the runaway couple of their £600,000 a year security team, saying it would be “inappropriate” to comment.”


    • Doublethinker says:

      It is a certainty that Megan will play the race card big time on US TV with Harry acting as a nodding poodle. I fear that Harry will soon be apologising for any deaths or injuries that he may have caused during his tour of duty in the army. He will tearfully explain that back then he wasn’t Woke but now , thanks to his wonderful wife and guru Megan, he is and he can clearly see how wrong it was.


  43. AsISeeIt says:

    The BBC follow up their previous-agenda busting report telling us not enough men are donating blood.
    Their problem was they had to acknowledge male blood was biologically different and medically vital.

    As so often with the BBC the new story goes with identity politics: ‘Jamie Lambert, 29, from London, says many gay and bisexual men people feel let down by the law.’

    But wait a minute… ‘only 41% of new blood donors in England last year were men’ Remind us what proportion of the population are gay men… 1, 2, 3%? So seriously as important as they and the BBC might think they are the gays are not the answer.

    And again the BBC just can’t resist banging another one of their familiar agenda gongs – this time “Cuts”

    “Rowan Swainson, 66, from Wellington, has given blood more than 40 times. But he told BBC News recent closures in Shropshire had led to a rising cost in travel to blood centres, which was deterring many donors. In cutting costs to the service, they have just passed on the costs to their most valuable asset, which is their volunteer donors”

    So what you are saying is… women can better aford extra travel costs than men?

    Come on BBC, climb off your narrative hobby horses for a moment and present a story honestly reflecting reality and in proportion with the true statistics. That’s if you want to be taken seriously – I doubt that these days. The BBC has collapsed into a lefty agenda tool. One suspects the BBC is reacting to lefty replies and responses to their original story. Clearly the BBC only listens to lefties and so happily does their bidding with this ridiculous and superfluous follow up report.


  44. Fedup2 says:

    Poor Clive ‘no mates’ Lewis MP – the only socialist of colour to stand for the Loser of the Labour Party failed to get 22 mates to get him to the next round – and he transferred his votes to Lady Nugee .
    I think that means there are still 5 excellent candidates to finish off the Labour Party . And Red Dawn Butler got enough votes to go forward as deputy leader . … however they are checking VAR and Diane Abbot has offered to do any recount …


  45. digg says:

    The Labour leadership contest has thrown up 5 names as the final acceptable contenders:

    Emily Thornberry
    Keir Starmer
    Rebecca Long-Bailey
    Lisa Nancy
    Jess Phillips

    (All pygmies)

    In the 1970’s they could have chosen from:

    Harold Wilson
    George Brown
    Barbara Castle
    Lord Gardiner
    Richard Crossman
    James Callaghan
    Roy Jenkins
    Peter Shore
    George Lawson
    Merlyn Rees
    Arthur Bottomley
    David Owen
    Roy Mason
    Roy Hattersley
    Anthony Crosland
    Reg Prentice
    Shirley Williams
    Denis Howell
    John Dunwoody
    Lord Shackleton
    Tony Benn
    Ray Gunter
    Robert Mellish
    Judith Hart
    Frank Cousins
    Douglas Jay
    Gwyneth Dunwoody
    Sir Elwyn Jones

    (All giants and apologies to the many other notables I did not have time to research!)

    …..this I think highlights the dire state of the Labour party today and thank God Boris swamped them!


  46. Richard Pinder says:

    What I think is really going on in Harry and Megan’s world.

    Harry “I want to live in Britain”, Megan “I want to live in Hollywood”. Harry “But the Queen doesn’t rule over Hollywood”, Megan “Then lets compromise, why don’t we live on Vancouver Island, it’s the nearest we can get to Hollywood, while staying under the Queens rule”, Harry “Yes, a good idea Megan, if I become Lieutenant Governor of British Columbia, we would have to live in Victoria, the nearest point to Hollywood we could possible get under Her Majesty the Queens rule”, Megan “Yes, and the Canadians would have to pay for our security”, Harry “Perfect, I would then not be a burden on the British taxpayer”


  47. Woolwich says:

    Re: Megan and Harry.
    A point that I heard made by a contributor on TalkRadio today was this, I’ve just dressed it up a little.
    Reverse the roles. A male American actor woos Princess Harriet.
    Within 18 months she’s grown apart from her previously inseparable sister, her mother and her grandmother. She even went abroad with her baby so that Grandma and Grandad weren’t really involved in baby’s first Christmas, Grandad may not even be around for baby’s second Christmas. However did the Princess grow apart or did her new husband drive a wedge in?

    I won’t labour the point, you get the idea. If the roles were reversed there would be absolute hell on and the husband would be vilified. But Megan……


  48. Fedup2 says:

    I’m a bit out of the loop- but I’m guessing the BBC isn’t making much noise over the failure of protesting Iranian students to stamp on ‘ set fire to an Israeli and American flag the regime helpfully laid down for them .

    Twitter has video of the flags being stepped … around ….


  49. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile, at BBC North America, Jon breaks out the dartboard to cheer the team up…


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