491 Responses to Midweek Thread 18 December 2019

  1. Celtic_Mist says:

    What’s the betting BBC will lose interest when it goes to Senate?

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    • digg says:

      BBC Newsround, (it’s supposed to be the kids section) has a full page spread “explainer” of how Trump is in the doo-doo!

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/49823071

      Git ’em young eh!

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    • StewGreen says:

      It’s Christmas so it is Pantomime season

      .. The idea that a Republican senate is going to also impeach a Republican president for getting evidence that Democratic contender and his son are corrupt, is a fairy story.

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    • G says:

      CM,
      Yes, right now it suits our Trump hating Marxist State Broadcaster to, ‘pile on the hatred’. Like the strong showing of other Trump haters being interviewed on Toady after the 0800 news.
      I don’t think the BABC is motivated alone. I think they are, ‘hand in glove’ with the other America hating media in the US and are probably subject to suggestion/persuasion. After all, Sopel works for CNN, doesn’t he?

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  2. StewGreen says:

    “Just cos it’s in Nature the journal that doesn’t mean it’s automatically wrong”

    Greta Thunberg named one of the top ten most influential people in science in 2019 for ‘channelling the rage of a generation
    Climate catalyst
    A Swedish teenager brought climate science to the fore as she channelled her generation’s rage.
    We don’t know the others

    RICARDO GALVÃO: Science defender
    As chaos spiked in the Amazon, the physicist became a national hero by challenging Brazil’s government

    SANDRA DÍAZ: Biodiversity guardian
    An ecologist and her colleagues assess Earth’s ecosystems and call for drastic action

    https://www.nature.com/immersive/d41586-019-03749-0/index.html

    Ones to watch in 2020
    António Guterres
    Secretary-general, United Nations

    This Portuguese diplomat has pushed for aggressive action on global warming, and that advocacy could prove crucial as nations meet in 2020 to update their pledges under the 2015 Paris climate agreement.

    Mariya Gabriel
    European Commissioner for Innovation, Research, Culture, Education and Youth

    The European Union’s next spending plan for research and innovation, known as Horizon Europe, will take shape under the leadership of this Bulgarian political scientist.

    Markus Rex
    Alfred Wegener Institute, Germany

    This atmospheric scientist is leading the €140-million (US$155-million) MOSAiC expedition, in which a German ship frozen into Arctic ice for a year will collect data about polar conditions

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    • john in cheshire says:

      I wonder which bright spark it was who first thought of putting the words political and scientist together? To try to make it sound more important than it is. Same as social and science.

      Politics, like economics, social studies and religion is not a science. Chemistry is a science subject as is physics, biology and astronomy. Not politics. Or any of the other garbage subjects.

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      • Scroblene says:

        ‘Vegan gender studies’ is political, John!

        They all fart around and get nowhere…

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Kind of Muslim MP … Ahmadi Muslim the ones not considered Muslims by the rest
    https://www.twitter.com/IonaItalia/status/1207309549088194560

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    • vlad says:

      He’d better watch his back. Gay AND heretical? Prime target for the peaceful brothers.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      It wasn’t that long ago that a ‘ proper ‘ muslim rushed up to Scotland to murder an Ahmadi shopkeeper because he had wished his customers a Merry Christmas.

      Which just goes to show that muslims, like the commies, hate everyone and everything. Which is probably one of the reasons they flock together.

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  4. Doublethinker says:

    WTched the daily politics for the first time for a couple of years today. It seems that the BBC are settling on Corbyn as the principal reason why Labour lost. Just so we are 100% clear , some Labour policies are reported to have been popular and Please note Brexit wasn’t an issue . It was just Corbyn whom lots of voters found toxic. My view is that it was a mixture of a Corbyn, Marxist policies and of course Brexit. By denying Brexit was a major cause the BBC seems to me to be preparing for five years of Rejoinerism. It clear their anointed leader is Starmer, the arch Remainer and no doubt now a rejoiner. These buggers never learn do they? Clearly they regard Brexit as being a mortal insult , a permanent stain on the country which they must expunge no matter what the cost. The BBC is way beyond reform and needs to got rid of.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Double
      I found a lot of labour policies really attractive – the free Wi-fi – the free iPad – free energy from fusion power – free prem football – my own Butler . These were all great .

      It will be good to see some deeper analysis of the result and campaign -particularly the ‘news’ in the final weeks that it might lead to a ‘hung ‘ parliament …

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    • G says:

      DT,
      “These buggers never learn do they? Clearly they regard (Trump) as being a mortal insult , a permanent stain on the country which they must expunge no matter what the cost.” Split application?

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  5. vlad says:

    With all due respect to Farage, the Conservatives could have taken an extra 20 + seats from Labour if the Brexit party had stood down, beating Thatcher’s record.

    Wipeout.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10576141/boris-johnson-couldve-won-by-even-bigger-majority-after-nigel-farages-brexit-party-blocked-20-seats/

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    • Jeff says:

      An extra 20 Tories in the HoC is of no benefit to the Brexxit Party or any of us that want a full Brexit.
      I still fear that Boris is going to give us the sort of deal that is like May’s with a bit of tinkering.
      Already the influence of the ERG has been diminished because of the landslide.
      They had him by the short and curlies before, but not now.
      Be careful what you wish for…

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      • Thoughtful says:

        Even the Daily Telegraph this weekend described Boris as a socially Liberal politician, which is about as close as they’re going to get to ‘Socialist’. I suppose it’s better than the previous Marxist they had, but it’s no way a small c conservative.

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    • Banania says:

      Do you think that the Conservatives (i.e. Cummings & Co.) calculated that they would rather win by a smaller margin and not be beholden to Farage, whereas they might have made a deal with him beforehand and won more seats?

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  6. Peter Sausages says:

    It’s so wonderful to see the beeboids still in total shock after the hammering Labour got… Happy days.

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  7. StewGreen says:

    Amol Rajan is joined by Piers Morgan
    Piers is sounding as if his ITV show is a Daily Mirror pro Labour , anti Boris show

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    • StewGreen says:

      Dominic Wring from Loughborough Uni
      “there has been a doubling of negative coverage against Labour”
      “in the ten printed newspaper Mon-Fri”
      “we didn’t look at online”

      ..FFS obvious PR not news.. cos it’s not a countable thing
      .. Its a qualitative thing

      See the date on his research Nov 18th FFS

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      • StewGreen says:

        Piers didn’t attack the idea
        but “Yeh in 2017 the papers supported Theresa May,
        if they worked , then she would have won
        ..I don’t buy into the power of the print newspapers
        The Mirror only sells 500K, not 2.5 million”

        “You could throw a harpoon in a BBC newsroom and not hit a Conservative”

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        • Charlie Farley says:

          I heard some of this , it started with most of press being accused of being anti JC …..no mention of BBC anti Boris…its just unbelievable. BBC still can’t see their own faults or accept the GE result , I am sure the anti Boris crap will continue, Still trying to avoid any BBC news and diversification programmes !!

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  8. Terminal Moraine says:

    Only just picking up on the post-mortems by the BBC but I was checking in with all the fine posts here during the election. This tweet stuck with me.

    What’s hit me the most in the last 3.5 years is just how deeply ideological programming has taken root. Living in London I come into contact with a lot of progressive liberals. I know some who agonise over the white goods in their home because they’re made by a company where the CEO isn’t politically in agreement with their worldview.

    It’s still a mystery to them, and the BBC, that people might quietly assess policies on the basis of evidence, make their decision and then get on with life. Intersectionality and ideology are poor substitutes for basic reality. Watching all the hand-wringing and scrabbling around for answers by the media it would appear this is still a riddle too perplexing to solve for many.

    https://twitter.com/jared_dunn/status/1205655774048989184

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  9. StewGreen says:

    Extremist books removed from school library

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  10. StewGreen says:

    The Times journo claims that the German Government intends to purge itself of “far right civil servants”
    .. that sounds a bit Stasi

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  11. StewGreen says:

    Australian bomb jihadis were yesterday sentenced to 40 and 36 years
    In 2017 they had a bomb ready to smuggle onto a plane
    .. and it was to be followed by poison gas attacks in Sydney.

    Wonder if the BBC is reporting much ?

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  12. Thoughtful says:

    Just make sure you have some kind of chill pills ready before watching this:

       13 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Daniel Hannan: “What we see here is a racket.”

      Yes, and it is now also supported by people trafficking, drug smuggling and prostitution as well as our VAT.

      The echoes of 39 VietNamese screaming and struggling to breath ought to be amplified over the PA system in those shiny marble, glass and steel corridors of the EU building in Brussels.

      Every day.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Thoughtful – I thought you favoured paying politicians more money so that we get ‘quality ‘. I noted that the youngest new labour MP is to give up half her salary to charity and only pocket £35k for the year ( not sure if that’s a tax dodge `) .

      The Funding of TheReich EU , the corruption , the anti democratic nature -was on this list of why people wanted to leave .

      There is no prospect of reform . The whole think riles against the Anglo Saxon mindset – get out of the EU – then target the Lords . A progressive reduction in numbers – maybe the longest serving 100 each year until its down to a manageable number of elected 5 year time servers .

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      • Thoughtful says:

        The nutcase Labour MP actually believes the average working mans take home pay in Britain is £35K pa after deductions!

        As for an elected second chamber, the problem is you get a pro or anti government majority – a rubber stamp, or block everything situation. Recall the USA grinding to a halt because the upper chamber refused to agree the budget.
        It doesn’t work

        They only get paid £300 if they turn up which might be great if you live in London but if you need a hotel room, plus meals it doesn’t leave much change.

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        • Lord Blagger says:

          Average wage is 38K
          Median wage is 28K
          That’s before taxes.

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          • StewGreen says:

            I wonder if that figure is household rather than individual income
            cos the ONS give household income as £29K

            My students in Indonesia earn 1/10 th of UK salaries, but property is 1/20th , you can get a house for £7K.
            Which is why my room rent is £10pw including bills.

            Here in Britain in the village £6 per hour seems normal .

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Think you may have those numbers the wrong way round, M’Lud.

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        • Charlie Farley says:

          On a slightly different tack, am I right in thinking that when an MP fails to be reelected they get £50,000 ….if so its probably more now

             3 likes

  13. Doobster78 says:

    You had your moment, now kindly, foxtrot Oscar !!!!!

       37 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Doob
      What a great epitaph for The Hale woman that the so called Supreme Court was revised back to control the creation of constitutional ‘crimes ‘. ? But Mr Starkey would be the one for that job…

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    • G says:

      Doob,
      Simply go back to a House of Lords as the final arbiter. It served well for many years.

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  14. StewGreen says:

    Driving test cheater

       20 likes

  15. Guest Who says:

    https://www.tvbeurope.com/content/sky-news-lobbying-to-be-allowed-to-provide-local-news?

    Having endured BBC (EU) funded ‘Local Democracy ‘reporters’ locally for a while, the thought of a bunch of Lewis Goodhall clones alternating rants with the thefts of bikes outside the Co-op is not pleasant.

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  16. Oaknash says:

    Heard on news on R4 news this afternoon that 16 men of “Asian heritage” have been found guilty of rape in Halifax.
    Anyone interested in meeting me for a demo outside the Japanese Embassy where we can ask these Asians “just what the hell is wrong with them!

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  17. StewGreen says:

    BBC Behemoth
    The Times view on a review of the licence fee:
    full article

    https://www.tvlicenceresistance.info/forum/index.php/topic,17494.0.html

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  18. Fedup2 says:

    Stew – I reckon the new government will stuff the BBC on the over 75 licence tax in the coming budget . I think it’s the kind of thing which Mr Cummings would go for ….

    Nice to see the piece you put up echoing many of the views expressed her and on the excellent “IS the BBC biased ?’ Site .

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  19. Deborah says:

    I thought I might like some news tonight, Wednesday, now that I know what the BBC says cannot upset me and at the moment know where the majority opinion lies, Switched on BBC1 at 6pm. Lead story was about the dementia crisis. Yes I feel very sorry for the carers but to me this is opinion rather than news. Nothing has changed. Yesterday was difficult for the cares and tomorrow might be a bit more difficult. Why today is it news? I cannot really answer that one because I switched off. I will also point out, that unlike itv adverts, suddenly for this item the BBC became very white.

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    • Foscari says:

      Deborah-I thought the 6PM ” News” on the BBC had a BBC
      agenda.As you say this was not news. It is if most of the
      programme had been prepared maybe even a couple of days
      ago. I suppose I am sounding like an old male chauvinist pig.
      But I thought the news was very women orientated. Yes
      we expect a women presenter that’s about 75% of the
      time. But most of the news seem to feature women in
      some guise or other. From the terrible plight of the wives
      of the Alzeimer sufferers ,to the lady darts player who beat
      a man.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Actually there is nothing new about a lady darts player beating a man. Back in the early 80’s I played in several dart leagues, and was the only female in two mens’ teams. That wouldn’t have occurred if I was rubbish (and they were a ‘man’ short), I also, with (according to the blokes) annoying regularity beat the chaps thus ensuring my place in the side. So to celebrate this lady’s achievements is about 40 years too late !

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        • Deborah says:

          The BBC are always obsessed with young snowflakes and black wimmin having role models and they give prominence to women who satisfy that demand. Mrs Thatcher didn’t need one and on a much smaller scale, neither did I. Females should aim high but justify what they achieve by being good at what they do, not get a job by being female.

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    • StewGreen says:

      BBC news is driven by whatever vested interest the BBC is cuttingNpasting from.
      Mostly these days that’s from NGO’s

      The BBC online page begins
      “The head of the *Alzheimer’s Society* says that the UK is facing a humanitarian crisis”

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    • StewGreen says:

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  20. StewGreen says:

    typical BBC make an error
    get caught out
    Deny and stealth edit
    https://bbcwatch.org/2019/12/18/bbc-amends-newsround-christmas-feature-which-breached-style-guide/

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  21. vlad says:

    David Starkey’s historical take on the election, Brexit, the new Puritanism, and more…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Vlad
      Thank you for posting this – I’ve just watched the 57 minutes of prof starkeys views and if you have the time – it’s really worth a listen .
      His view of the treason of the traitors in the 2017 -2019 parliament is well made . The BBC is dealt with lightly about 30 minutes in and it ends with Scotland .

      To think that of all newspapers The Sun commissioned this is a wonder . It reminded me of those lectures to camera AJP Taylor did …. you’d never see anything like it on terrestrial TV anymore

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      • vlad says:

        Yes, don’t let the Sun logo put readers off.

        The interviewer asks a few short, intelligent and relevant questions, then lets Starkey answer at length, without interrupting – and LISTENS. He is not trying to be the star, score gotcha points, trip him up, virtue signal, or show off his liberal credentials or the size of his dick.
        Unlike certain Broadcasters one could mention.
        Result: an informed and informative interview, the likes of which would never be seen on you-know-where.

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        • theisland says:

          Good work by young Steven Edginton.

          BoJo should employ David Starkey in an advisory capacity. His
          NCF Smith Lecture
          is also worth watching.

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Starkey is wrong – as a historian(!) – in what he said about the Puritans. I’m not a historian (chose science for education, instead) but I have paid more attention to history in adult life.

              He forgets that there were very different forms of Puritanism, as exemplified with what happened during the English Civil War.

              For sure, you had the Witchfinders and the stake-burners but many of us would describe that as the subversion and decline of the pure core of Puritanism. Starkey forgets that the true Christian Puritanism was found in the countryside, mostly in the southern half of England but also in Scotland, too. The Yeoman, God-fearing & worshipping, Briton that he refers to soon afterwards.

              It is true that Puritanism became highly non-Conformist when the State Church (Church of England) was given power over the population to enforce Church law and started imprisoning people. He also forgets that the Quakers, the original Pentecostals (non-Conformists) of their day, had largely declined by the time his parents were taking him to meetings.

              He also declined to mention that the original true Puritans, when Puritanism had gone bad and when the CoE sought extra power and abused those powers, bolstered by migration from central and western Europe of people like the Anabaptists went off to form the American colonies. The true Puritans were seeking freedom, including freedom of worship from an oppressive force of governance. Yes, that Puritanism was also subverted in time, hence Salem and its Witch Trials.

              As a historian, he knows all that or should do.

              I just think his train of thought for that interview was heading down quite a narrow line of thought and speech. Hope no-one has been misled by it.

              As to the Starmers, Thornberrys, Soubrys and Owen Jones being Puritans, let’s not beat about the bush. They are (Inter)National Socialists and Communists in both their doctrines and their behavioural choices for the population at large but not necessarily themselves.

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  22. StewGreen says:

    bbc the publishing arm of Greenpeace
    R3 Extinction Rebellion and the End of the World

    Rana Mitter looks at the ideologies surrounding climate disaster
    with guests including Rupert Read of Extinction Rebellion,
    investigative journalist Nafeez Ahmed,
    professor of psychosocial theory Lisa Baraitser,
    and lawyer Tessa Khan.
    How do we make sense of the idea of ecological collapse,
    and what are the assumptions hidden in the way we discuss climate disaster

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07y9c75

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  23. MarkyMark says:

    We are Labour …. We are Islam!

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  24. fakenewswatcher says:

    TRUMP RALLY FROM RSBN
    Right Side Broadcasting Network broadcasting from a very cold Battle Creek, Michigan tonight: President Trump & VP Pence! Watch if you wish…

    IMPEACH NANCY PELOSI !

       19 likes

  25. Doobster78 says:

    Kids indoctorated yet AGAIN by the dangerous , liberal left.

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    • vlad says:

      The very very bad man just got 14 million votes.

      Stick to making angry c-rap ‘music’.

      As for ‘the school shouldn’t have let him’, they’d probably already brainwashed the kids in the same leftie ideology that pervades the whole education system.

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      • Doobster78 says:

        Stormzy replied to Piers

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        • pertelote says:

          stormzy.. yep another one who has sold out!…
          another thick, uneducated, self-obsessed, self-opinionated piece of carp.
          Simples..just like him lol! His “music” makes a dog turd seem interesting and full of potential! The man’s an eejit..plain to see.

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          • vlad says:

            Not just an eejit: a dangerous inflammatory eejit, like all the rap ‘artistes’ that the beeb love to fawn over – so edgy and cool dahling, so ethnic. Wicked.
            Nothing more nauseating than people who should know better trying to get down with da kids.

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    • Guest Who says:

      The BBC of course just lurve him.

      ***

      Radio 4

      “Aww, thank you miss!…I can’t believe this.”

      This morning Zoe Ball surprised Stormzy with a call from his primary school teacher Miss Wheeler! ???? ????

      ???? You NEED to hear this… ????

      (Via BBC Radio 2)

      ***
      Bet Miss. Wheeler is bangin’ proud of Zoe’s little Wolfie.

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  26. BRISSLES says:

    Interesting article in the Mail on Sunday supplement Event, by Robert Gore-Langton the theatre critic. Quote “Roaringly PC Narnia loses a bit of its magic” – The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe, Bridge Theatre, London……
    Quote” …… The story is largely intact, except that CS Lewis’s specifically Christian, spiritual dimension has been replaced by the religion of diversity, and the four Pevensie siblings are played by adult black actors. As the Professor pointedly reminds us, our minds are like parachutes – they only work when they’re open”.
    I think this is the first time that I’ve ever read a theatre critic openly criticise what diversity has done to wrecking a decades old childrens’ story.

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  27. Thoughtful says:

    Off topic here, however, what on earth has happened to our once hallowed justice system and sense of fair play?

    We hear today of a trio of people who wrongly defrauded Royal Fail of £225K in stamps they had ‘washed’.

    The Man received a 4 year prison sentence, his wife a 2 year suspended sentence (nothing), and their accomplice who hadn’t been involved as much an 18 month suspended sentence (nothing).

    The man and the wife were just about equally involved with the money going into a joint account, so why the disparity in the sentence?

    But that’s not the point.

    Little individual people are the only wrongdoers are the only ones the law is concerned with now. If you are part of a big organisation you can break what ever laws you please with impunity.

    Look how many live Post Office Counters staff ruined with their faulty computer system, and the know openly known purjury of its senior executives who deliberately and knowingly lied in court and had people sent to prison wrongfully as a result.

    Nothing can ever make this right, but some nod to justice would certainly help, because if these rogues are not brought to book for what they have done, it gives every senior government official in every single government department the green light to do exactly the same, and that is beyond thinking.

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  28. Guest Who says:

    Sadly paywalled, but cracks showing more.

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    • Dystopian says:

      It’s not just what they broadcast regarding this country it is their entire world view. What about all the lies by omission. There is obviously a news blackout with regard to the giblets jaunes in France which has no doubt been commanded from the puppet masters higher in the establishment.
      If Boris is supposed to be taking us out (of the EU) and Farage is keen to point out the EU’s flaws, then why are neither of them pointing out what is happening in France?
      Why have the MSM been told to keep quiet on this?

      Btw, as the BBC/MSM are not reporting on this, where can I find out what is happening there (France) at present ?

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  29. lordelpus says:

    BBC News 24 at 10-00 p.m. going overboard on President Trump impeachment proceedings.Katy Kay and Jon Sopel almost orgasming with delight.I suppose this is looked on as a consolation prize, after their beloved Labour party lost the general election.Next week expect more sympathetic treatment of Labour leader candidates.Funniest thing I saw today, Jayne Secker on SKY news having a near slip of the tongue. As she announced Emily Thornberry had thrown her FA- (quickly corrects herself) HAT into the ring!

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  30. StewGreen says:

    This time it’s a Cambridge academic spitting out the hate

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  31. pertelote says:

    Haven’t been able to read the posts today as travelling..but guess this has been posted:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-50838823

    “PC Amjad Ditta, also known as Amjad Hussain, 35, has been charged with sexual touching.”

    another filthy f*ck!

    Mr Ditta, who was attached to West Yorkshire Police’s Protective Services Operations, was a serving officer at the time of the offence he has been accused of.

    He has been suspended from duty, the force said.

    The 16 men, all from Halifax, will appear at Bradford Magistrates’ Court on 6 January 2020.

    Those charged are:
    Vaqaas Abbas, 30, charged with three counts of rape and three offences of supplying a class C drug
    Nadeem Adalat, 34, charged with four counts of rape and four counts of supplying a class C drug
    Sajid Adalat, 43, charged with rape
    Vaseem Adalat, 33, charged with two counts of rape, trafficking and supplying a class C drug
    Amjad Ditta, also known as Amjad Hussain, 35, charged with sexual touching
    Christopher Eastwood, 45, charged with two counts of rape and two counts of supplying a class C drug
    Metab Islam, 46, charged with six counts of rape, six counts of supplying a class C drug, two sexual assaults and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice
    Mohammed Rizwan Iqbal, 34, charged with rape
    Ishtiaq Latif, 32, charged with sexual activity with a child
    Asad Mahmood, 33, charged with two counts of rape and trafficking
    Arfan Mir, also known as Khalifa Mughal, 36, charged with six counts of rape, three counts of supplying a class C drug, supply of a class A drug and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice
    Younis Mohammed aka Younis Khan, 34, charged with rape and causing a person to engage in sexual activity without consent
    Nadeem Nassir, 39, charged with rape, supply of a class C drug and making threats to kill
    Shahzad Nawaz, 40, charged with rape, supply of a class C drug and making threats to kill
    Shazad Nazir, 44, charged with two counts of rape and two counts of supplying a class C drug
    Sohail Zafar, 36, charged with rape and supplying a class C drug

    Who the hell is this Christopher Eastwood..lower than the lowest scum identified there that’s what…a convert?

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  32. Demon says:

    Now Labour has more female MPs than male will we be seeing men only shortlists to redress the balance? No, didn’t think so.

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  33. pugnazious says:

    Genuinely shocking lies and outright bias from the honest and impartial BBC as they smear the President of the USA as a racist.

    Yesterday’s ‘The Long View’ on R4 declared that Trump is, is, a white supremacist, not even a sly ‘others might say’, he’s definitely a white supremacist, and that ‘He’d built a career on inciting racial division’…the proof? What he said, or what the BBC tells you he said, after Charlottesville….that the Neo-Nazis, or some of them…were good people.

    Of course Trump never said that….and he’s always condemned Neo-Nazis and white supremacists.

    This is what he did say…

    ‘”You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. … I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. … So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people — and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the White nationalists, because they should be condemned totally — but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and White nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group.”

    The BBC and Democrats failed to take down Trump with their made-up allegations of collusion with Russia [however the Democrats can be proven to have colluded…the Mueller investigation and impeachment charades could have been choreographed by the Kremlin….the Russkies can’t believe their luck], the impeachment showtrial is conducted by a Democrat ‘court’ so has no credibilty at all, so another busted flush, and all they have left is to shout ‘racist’ and ‘white supremacist’ at Trump…and even that is fake news.

    The BBC that wanted to put a Russian fanboy into No10, a BBC that promoted a Russian narrative about Trump, a BBC that tried to stop the UK and US from attacking a Russian ally, a BBC that refused to expose Corbyn’s links to Russia, Iran and the Islamists.

    Who exactly is it that is ‘colluding’ with the Russians? Trump or the BBC?

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  34. pugnazious says:

    Chiles once again proving he’s worth every penny of the licence fee and upholding the values and respect that embodies the BBC…I’d swear he broadcasts from down the pub with his BBC mates as he spouts sh*te that you’d only say to those who you knew had the same mindset….surely he’s not under any editorial control or supervision? All we get is a stream of cheap, low-rent comment and ‘analysis’ that are mostly anti-Tory smears and sneers.

    Today he targeted Dominic Cummings…apparently ‘It’s very worrying that he has so much power’ and ‘He needs putting back in his box’.

    Fortunately his guests were having none of that and put Chiles back in his box……no fans of Cummings but prepared to speak sensibly about him….reminding Chiles that Cummings didn’t care about the Westminster bubble, he was only interested in ‘real life’ and getting things done….a good thing you might have thought.

    Chiles decided to attack from a different angle claiming, laughably, that Cummings didn’t do detail and that he wasn’t interested in foreign policy. Anyone who knew the slightest thing about Cummings would know he’s all about detail and that he is a prime mover on some issues relating to foreign policy, not least Brexit,…and the guests smacked Chiles down immediately saying ‘Actually he is interested in foreign policy’…Chiles muttered a quick ‘Sorry I must be mistaken’

    Sheer ignorance, wilful ignorance, and prejudice from Chiles who clearly was expecting his fellow media pundits would be of the same mindset as him and would go along with his hatchet job…got a bit of a surprise when it didn’t pan out like that.

    Chiles tried a similar cheap, lazy and ignorant attack on Boris last week as he claimed Boris didn’t do detail and didn’t know anything about the Middle East and thus how could he be PM!? Got smacked down there too. He just doesn’t learn…and doesn’t bother to do his homework….Chiles is the classic case of a BBC liberal who thinks that the whole world thinks like him and his worldview is the only correct and righteous one possible….Only to be horribly disabused of that delusion again and again…and yet never learning from the lessons handed out to him. Then again he is a West Brom fan…so hope lives eternal.

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  35. pugnazious says:

    That nicer kinder politics…from the Left as always….so reminiscent of the deep-seated hatred of Leave voters and the wish they’d all just die…..this woman is teaching your kids….

    Not surprising…she’s done a runner….

    And yet the BBC will insist that it’s Boris spreading hate and division with his inflammatory words such as ‘Surrender Act’.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Radio4 on my way home
      8pm Sisters doing Social Welfare : Helen Lewis talks to social entrepreneur Hilary Cottam
      8:45pm Sisters are victims of rape
      9pm : Sisters are victims ‘men wouldn’t let them be doctors’
      9:30pm I got all my sistas and me : story if Sister Sledge’s disco hit

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    • Sluff says:

      Could this be why the Labour Party want to reduce the voting age to……..what……about 10.

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  36. StewGreen says:

    Malleus is an avowed atheist so he will wind some Christians up
    but in this weeks twitter thread about what religious stories the BBC Religion depart brush under the carpet he lists about 8 big stories

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    • vlad says:

      It’s illegal. Has anyone been prosecuted? Course not.

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      • NameNotNumber says:

        https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47094707
        One successful prosecution about 10 months ago. And how many of the practitioners of ‘more than 5,000 newly recorded FGM cases in England’ have been prosecuted since?

        When I was just a little girl
        I asked my mother, “What will I be?”
        “Will I be pretty, will I be rich?”
        Here’s what she said to me…

        Que sera sera, the future of the UK is there for us all to see.

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  37. StewGreen says:

    Depends what happened to these “Windrush victims”
    .. I bet at one end some are over compensated

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    • The Sage says:

      The Empire Windrush made just a single voyage from Jamaica to the UK and this was in 1948.
      So even if a passenger were a new-born baby on board, they would now be around 71. However and to the best of my knowledge, the Windrush carried around 500 adult male migrants from Kingston to Tilbury on that one voyage and no young children as migrants.
      As such, this woman cannot be part of the so-called Windrush generation. Neither can most of the others.

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  38. StewGreen says:

    Panorama actually did a prog about these swindling black churches that have infiltrated Britain

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  39. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  40. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    Wow – a record . After hearing the agenda Tourette’s Robinson had for Toady the ‘off’ switch had activated 1 minute after the start.

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  41. Oaknash says:

    Was driving in the rain yesterday and I thought I would try R2 for a change , and guess what? the Jeremy Vine Show was on.

    God what an utter sh#t show of snowflakery.
    They were discussing “men” who now have PTSD after their wives have, had difficult labours.
    One particular crybaby called (called Mark I think) was telling us because of all of the blood and tension ( his wife recieved emergency treatment) has now put him off sex and having kids in the future – well thank God for that thought I.
    Queen Jeremy in her best high pitched uber effeminate, whiny, social worker voice making all the right, understanding noises and – helping all of the babies to offload their stress and complaints about how they felt “in the way” of the medical staff. “Well guess what numbnuts – you probably were – selfish bloody medical staff, should have stopped to give you a shoulder rub while your wife is bleeding to death!
    At least these “men”are not alone, maybe they can form a “brotherhood” with some of our poor bloody squaddies who have seen their mates cut to pieces in a shoot out with the Taliban or had their genitals blown off by an IED – I am sure they would be more than sympathetic listening to some infantised man/child telling us he cant get it up any more.
    As far as I could tell none of the featured babies had lost their wives, but to be honest my R4 “off switch” reflex came into play before my blood pressure rose too much.
    Even forgetting the everyday lies of R4. Listening to this self indulgent guff on R2 reminded me yet again how the BBC seems intent on giving weakness respectability and creating a land fit for “zeroes” whilst those who have acted in a genuinely heroic fashion for Queen and Country get quietly forgotten about or prosecuted.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Men have slowly been ‘feminised’ over the past few decades. Just looking at those in their early 20’s , most have pasty skins due to lack of outdoor activities, some are so overweight they can hardly move from one McDonalds to another, and a lot have the mentality of 12 year olds and are devoid of any responsibility in their lives. Of course I’m generalising and there are those who live their lives responsibly and are well educated., but even in the development of their voices, a lot of chaps when I was a teenager, had deep timbered tones, but what on earth had happened ? we now have a generation of weedy, reedy and girly voices ! Sorry chaps if you are one of those.

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    • JimS says:

      Maybe we have lost the old wisdom of keeping men out of the birthing process?

      There has been many a medical student, of either sex, that has fainted at the sight of blood.

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  42. AnneG says:

    I have just had a laugh out loud moments while listening to Toady.
    At 06.54 Robinson interviews a Labour BAME woman about why it’s manifesto was ‘well liked ‘ in her view.
    Wow, she made Diane Abbott sound normal a hard task for anyone. If you need a laugh try and listen if you can.

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  43. Guest Who says:

    Looks like the BBC is running a diverse 3 Stooges.

    #CCBGB

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  44. LastChanceSaloon says:

    The Thornberry “I told you so” article in the Guardian yesterday, confirming she is a leadership candidate, has received BBBC attention above.
    A BTL comment on the article, verbatim.

    “I would suggest Jeff Philips and David Lammy. Both are exceptional and don’t carry corbinism as a baggage!”

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    • scribblingscribe says:

      Odd, all these Labour MPs and supporters who always ‘knew’ Corbyn was going to be a disaster. You’d have thought someone would have mentioned it before the election.

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  45. Guest Who says:

    Rob cites… the FT in support.

    #CCBGB

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  46. Guest Who says:

    Tony, Fran… the impartiality just shines through in this… BBC ‘analysis’… does it not?

    https://twitter.com/bbcpaulmurphy/status/1207591926884642816?s=21

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  47. Guest Who says:

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  48. Foscari says:

    It looks like to me that the BBC has decided that it wants
    to become the unofficial opposition to the Conservative
    government. If you agree which women at the BBC should
    be their leader? There is a plethora of choice.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Fos
      The one which instantly sprung to mind was the northern one who was on day time TV but I think – left -. Otherwise there is , I would submit , a fairly limited field because they are mainly from the socialist republic of Islington …. Emily …. the one who does the daily politics , Emma , the Wimmins hour hoards ( careful spell check ..) -maybe they could promote one of the northern girls who does the weather – I’m a Londoner so accents are a bit tricky for me as I have to discern whether it’s gudjerati or punjabi most of the time – or which Nigerian tribe it is ….

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  49. theisland says:

    How dare they!

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Yeah we need the North Sea to be an extension of the Grand Banks – a cod free zone!

      We know from experience that fishermen will continue to take catches until there are no fish left. In the USA their greed destroyed their entire industry, and the only way to stop them is strict quotas with strict enforcement.

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    • G says:

      theisland,

      But, but, but…….we’re leaving……aren’t we?
      “Take back control”. No, the Boris deal won’t!
      More cracks will appear as time goes on. (Or, ‘moving forward’ in BABC speak)

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  50. Dover Sentry says:

    Is Trump history?

    That’s what the BBC wish for and tell me.

    No. His enemies have said he must go. His allies outnumber his enemies and they will say he must stay.

    What next, BBC?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Dover – MSM does the same thing with America that it did with the UK – benign economic data ( for the time being ) so the opposition looks elsewhere – for traitors and ‘froth ‘ .

      If the economy holds up for 2020 then unless the democrats find a suitably ‘star’ then I reckon President Trump will drive the BBC to despair for another 4 years ….

      I did put 50p on Oprah I while back ….

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    • vlad says:

      Meanwhile Trump is wondering, ‘Is the BBC history?’

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